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"Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy"


  

          


Several months after his Vote Or Die campaign, sources tell SOHH.com that Diddy is apparently looking to express his new penchant for politics on his next album. Puff has enlisted the services of socially aware emcees Common and Talib Kweli to pen some of his material. Meanwhile, rapper/producer Kanye West is on board to produce several tracks for Puff's new project, which is currently in the works. The record is reportedly Diddy's last solo album.

http://www.sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=6854

  

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RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy
Mar 18th 2005
1
god i hope so
Mar 19th 2005
27
LOL at this:
Mar 18th 2005
2
Thats wat dick riders do...
Mar 18th 2005
6
he bores the hell outta me too...
Mar 18th 2005
15
RE: LOL at this:
Mar 18th 2005
18
      RE: LOL at this:
Mar 23rd 2005
41
Huh!?!?!? ... whatever
Mar 18th 2005
3
LOL...so true.
Mar 18th 2005
4
RE: Huh!?!?!? ... whatever
Mar 20th 2005
32
"Don't worry if i write rhymes, I write checks"
Mar 18th 2005
5
last solo album ?!!?!!?! BACKPACKERS UNITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Mar 18th 2005
7
and that's just a partial list. story should also include the names
Mar 18th 2005
8
on some "makin the band" shyt
Mar 18th 2005
9
who brought the cheesecake?
Mar 18th 2005
13
did the person have to walk to get it?
Mar 18th 2005
16
have any of them accepted?
Mar 18th 2005
17
lol... when the album leaks
Mar 20th 2005
34
Kanye you a genius nigga
Mar 18th 2005
10
Last solo album???
Mar 18th 2005
11
      i smell a 100% sell rise
Mar 18th 2005
12
           scary...frightening...TERRIFYING I TELL YOU!
Mar 21st 2005
35
I think Old age makes a rapper turn political
Mar 18th 2005
14
All I know is, that "Run This City" joint is fire
Mar 18th 2005
19
I heard Comm used to Ghost write for Will Smith
Mar 19th 2005
20
yup
Mar 19th 2005
21
      It's not considered "ghost-writing" if your name is in the credits
Mar 21st 2005
39
Politicians don't write their own Speeches
Mar 19th 2005
22
RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy
Mar 19th 2005
23
RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy
Mar 19th 2005
24
uh ur confusing his argument
Mar 19th 2005
25
too the dumbasses talking shit
Mar 20th 2005
31
you said it
Mar 19th 2005
28
RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy
Mar 19th 2005
29
uh...but their voices won't be heard...
Mar 19th 2005
30
they got mouths to feed
Mar 20th 2005
33
RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy
Mar 21st 2005
37
i fucking hate diddy
Mar 19th 2005
26
RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy
Mar 21st 2005
36
some of you are close-minded as fuck.
Mar 21st 2005
38
News Flash
Mar 22nd 2005
40
      RE: News Flash
Mar 23rd 2005
42

Scrapluv
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1. "RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy"
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>The record is reportedly Diddy's last solo album.
>
promises, promises

  

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27. "god i hope so"
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Hip Hop Soul Hermana
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2. "LOL at this:"
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>Diddy is apparently looking to express his new
>penchant for politics on his next album.

funny how almost everyone is trying to jump on the "conscious" bandwagon...

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6. "Thats wat dick riders do..."
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Fri Mar-18-05 03:09 PM by i froze frosTee

          

Frankly that dude bores the hell outta me.

I love when the media calls him "Puff" tho hahaha...

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15. "he bores the hell outta me too..."
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18. "RE: LOL at this:"
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>>Diddy is apparently looking to express his new
>>penchant for politics on his next album.
>
>funny how almost everyone is trying to jump on the "conscious"
>bandwagon...


I definitely agree. I think Nas put it well,
"...Cause it's trendy to be the conscious MC
But next year, who knows what we'll see...?" Nas - These Are Our Heroes.

I mean i'm kinda glad that's one less song on the radio with lil jon, but i don't really like the fact that he's got all these dudes ghost writing for him.

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41. "RE: LOL at this:"
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well, if nas was right, and it was all that trendy...bush would probably have not been re-elected, common and kweli would have a larger audience, and the lyrical content of most rappers would speak on a lot more than the usual topics of discussion.


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3. "Huh!?!?!? ... whatever"
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Wait so Diddy is going to express HIS new penchant for politics by hiring ghost writers? WOW. Well I guess it comes back to, "Who cares if I write rhymes, I write checks."

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4. "LOL...so true."
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>Wait so Diddy is going to express HIS new penchant for
>politics by hiring ghost writers?

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32. "RE: Huh!?!?!? ... whatever"
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>Wait so Diddy is going to express HIS new penchant for
>politics by hiring ghost writers? WOW. Well I guess it comes
>back to, "Who cares if I write rhymes, I write checks."

well if he got Sauce Money to write HIS tribute to BIG for him, then why not

  

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5. ""Don't worry if i write rhymes, I write checks""
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n/m

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7. "last solo album ?!!?!!?! BACKPACKERS UNITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..."
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8. "and that's just a partial list. story should also include the names"
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Fri Mar-18-05 03:35 PM by okpdan

          

ghostface, black thought, pharoah monche. he called a meeting with all of them. kinda funny to imagine.

  

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9. "on some "makin the band" shyt"
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haha

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13. "who brought the cheesecake?"
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www.dumhi.com

  

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16. "did the person have to walk to get it?"
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n/m

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17. "have any of them accepted?"
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>ghostface, black thought, pharoah monche. he called a
>meeting with all of them. kinda funny to imagine.


that is kinda funny to imagine.

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34. "lol... when the album leaks"
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we can play a game of "guess who wrote this". i bet pharoahe and ghost's efforts will be easy to pick out

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10. "Kanye you a genius nigga"
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and who changed the game?

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11. "Last solo album???"
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What the HELL does that mean? What is Puff solo of? Why is it that when Puff "tries" to do right, it ends up not making any since?

  

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12. "i smell a 100% sell rise"
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my god brace yourself for everyone sayin how good a lyricist diddy is.

the D the I the D the D the Y the D the I the D spells diddydid....

jebus cuuurebus




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35. "scary...frightening...TERRIFYING I TELL YOU!"
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14. "I think Old age makes a rapper turn political"
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I'm not mad if Puffy pays comm and them well....who cares. He's just sharin the wealth and usin his platform for the greater good. I personally can't stand puffy's ass he think he's hot shit...well when it comes to the american dream maybe he is but i don't have to like him.

  

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19. "All I know is, that "Run This City" joint is fire"
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Hate on it all you want because it's Diddy if it makes you feel better though.

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20. "I heard Comm used to Ghost write for Will Smith"
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true?

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21. "yup"
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check the writing credits on willenium. you'll see a few tracks penned by an "r. lynn"

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39. "It's not considered "ghost-writing" if your name is in the credits"
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It's not considered "ghost-writing" if your name is in the credits. That's just considered "writing."

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22. "Politicians don't write their own Speeches"
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so I guess this makes sense...

how far & where do yall think he's gunna take his political career?? Mayor of the City???? He could be that one day, on sum revitalization refreshing face ticket

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23. "RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy"
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First of all, if someone like common or Talib who supposedly represent "conscious" music, even considered writing something for someone like diddy, then they don't even deserve to be talked about on this site, regardless of what they've done in there career. I have no tolerance for people who claim they are about a movement and then do shit to pay the bills. Fuck that, if you are real about what you say then you would live in a van until you die until people recognize what your talking about. You never bow down to there ignorance. The very idea that either Talib or Common would lower themselves to write for someone like diddy is embarasing to them as human beings and artists. Everybody on this site seems to say and act according to what they think others will pecieve as "conscience" but in reality we are just human. nobody has the answer. As always, this is just my opinion.
-Salsbury
P.S. You guys should check out www.renegadesoldiers.net it's pretty much not hip-hop, but with all the elements you love about rap music.

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24. "RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy"
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>First of all, if someone like common or Talib who supposedly
>represent "conscious" music, even considered writing something
>for someone like diddy, then they don't even deserve to be
>talked about on this site, regardless of what they've done in
>there career. I have no tolerance for people who claim they
>are about a movement and then do shit to pay the bills. Fuck
>that, if you are real about what you say then you would live
>in a van until you die until people recognize what your
>talking about. You never bow down to there ignorance. The very
>idea that either Talib or Common would lower themselves to
>write for someone like diddy is embarasing to them as human
>beings and artists. Everybody on this site seems to say and
>act according to what they think others will pecieve as
>"conscience" but in reality we are just human. nobody has the
>answer. As always, this is just my opinion.
> -Salsbury
>P.S. You guys should check out www.renegadesoldiers.net it's
>pretty much not hip-hop, but with all the elements you love
>about rap music.

What in heaven's name are you talking about? Please explain...

Because according to your logic, we should have stopped talking about Common a long time ago when he did the Sean Jean campaign right?

I mean techinically, you shouldn't even be on this site then, after The Roots did that ad for Coca Cola.

Now run along, your headwrap's getting dirty.

  

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25. "uh ur confusing his argument"
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and i agree wit em

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31. "too the dumbasses talking shit"
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the one thing you did say worth anything is that i don't belong on this site. because generally, most of what I read on this site are dick riding wanna be "real" hip-hop heads. Ya'll can talk about your diddy and his money, and how getting heard is all that matters but, it is because you think like that, that when you pass away nobody will remember you. These so called real mc's that you drool over care not about what you think. Conscience music is just another means to get your loot, but you feel cool because you can go on a website and talk about how much you know about hip-hop. my head wrap has been dirty, i wish you knew what I looked like you ignorant punk. As always this is just my opinion.
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28. "you said it"
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>You never bow down to there ignorance.

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29. "RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy"
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YOU GO LIVE IN A VAN, YOU ZERO-TOLERANCE PERSON YOU.
ARTISTS SHOULD USE ANY MEANS NECESSARY TO GET THEIR VOICES HEARD.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

  

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30. "uh...but their voices won't be heard..."
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>ARTISTS SHOULD USE ANY MEANS NECESSARY TO GET THEIR VOICES
>HEARD.

diddy's will and everyone will think those are his rhymes.

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33. "they got mouths to feed"
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also ghostwriting for diddy is a good way to get their message to the masses. and the more $$$ they have the better chance they have of doing the same.

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37. "RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy"
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Mon Mar-21-05 10:59 AM by BrklynzFinestPR

  

          

>First of all, if someone like common or Talib who supposedly
>represent "conscious" music, even considered writing something
>for someone like diddy, then they don't even deserve to be
>talked about on this site, regardless of what they've done in
>there career. I have no tolerance for people who claim they
>are about a movement and then do shit to pay the bills. Fuck
>that, if you are real about what you say then you would live
>in a van until you die until people recognize what your
>talking about.

I agree with you to a point but this shit is just not realistic. I mean Talib and Common got kids to feed so how can you really hate on them for "doing shit to pay the bills" I personally cant stand Diddys music and dont think he is representing hip hop but you know what, if Talib or Common can use him to spread their message then it may not be such a horrible thing. Like I said they got Kids to feed and I cant hate on them if they did Gostwrite. As far as boycotting the boards and the artists that is some bullshit. All I hop is that Diddy gets exposed and put on blast for all the TRL / 106 & Park headz who still think he writes his own shit. On a final note, some people forget that for someone like Talib who has NEVER gone Gold or Platinum this is his life not some fantasy hip hop land that publicists and media create.. Cash may not Rule Everything Around Me (or him) but it pays the bills.

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prophet j
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26. "i fucking hate diddy"
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no talent, but he's got the money to make common and kwa his sharecroppers

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I M S
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36. "RE: Common and Talib ghostwrite for Diddy"
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I wish this info didn't come out until AFTER the tracks were released - I guarantee everyone would've still said he's a shit rapper and his lyrics are wack.

  

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38. "some of you are close-minded as fuck."
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i'm not at all a Diddy-dick-holder, but i was gonna write a big long reply ... until i realized it wouldn't matter to the bulk of you that can only see the walls of your own colon.

the bottom line is that i doubt that Puff's jumping on the "conscious" bandwagon (that term is so lame anyway) because it's the current trend (check out pretty much any current rap hit's video) or because it's gonna bring him an assload of money (as if he needed it to). also, he's extending a hand to people that can get the job done, and will get paid to do what they do very well. i really can't find too much fault with any of this.

that said, a better idea for politically-informed project would be for Diddy to corral these emcees, match them with some hot beats, and market it as "P. Diddy presents ..." - i think that would be a better (and more palatable) option.

to end, i'll go on record saying that P. Diddy is probably more hip hop than most of you suburban-bred complainers. dude started out as a dancer and made his way up the ladder with hustling skills that were forged in hip hop. i don't know that i would consider him an innovator in any way, but his successes, i think, have opened doors here and there for other black/minority entrepreneurs, and though i have some issues with the guy, i can be a man and recognize that, unclouded by extreme tunnel vision.

  

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40. "News Flash"
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"News flash to Puffy, shirts didn't work nigga."

He made me vote for GW (I'm just kidding I didn't even vote) and now he's going to make me listen to G-Unit... What can I do to make this man die (besides shooting him)?

Smile everyone BE is coming soon

  

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42. "RE: News Flash"
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M-May

A- All

T-Triumph

U-Under

A-Adversity


"Know that daddy was a soldier to the end, I got nothing but luv for ya, and if there's a Ghetto in Heaven i'll be there." -2Pac-


Wether the shirt cost diddy 2 dollars or 22dollars you should have voted for bush anyway cause u didn't vote at all. The fact of the matter is Common nor Kweli or any other MC need Diddy. Millitary minds will prevail, or have you forgotten? The Revolution will not be televised.

  

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