You have jay biggin up Com on the Black Album as this super lyricist. EVERYONE heard it.

You got the tru-hop momentum of Kanye goin.

You got John Legend killin the airways with an acoustic song (and featured prominently on the album).

You have "The Corner" up to #3 on 106 & Park... which means the kids are ready for some next level heavy, positive, yet dope shit...

Not to mention that Jada & Twista both just scored with heavier themed tracks.

then they get a "club" track from Com.

Let me tell u somethin... there's nothin worse/cornier then when people not percieved as being able to make party music try to. It may get some spins... but that wont transfer to sales... cause Common talkin about "ass" is corny to the consumer.

Not to pigeonhole Com... but on another note... its not even a true representation of the album. That track is alone on the album. I think the kids should be givin a true window of what's on the album.

They could strategically use the momentum Com has going with Kanye, Legend, Jay, etc... to get the sales... and the shit could break thru on some "if you're a rap/hiphop fan, u have to have this". That's what i would go for.

Hopefully Kanye's presence can save "Go" and make it not come of as another "conscious" MC trying to make a club track.

and look at this "Kweli" single out right now...

*shakes head in disgust*

just my 50 Cents.

P.S. -- All this said... I think Go is dope... just not single material at all. I'd go with "Real People" or "They Say"



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Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
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Point well taken.

"They Say" should be the next single IMHO. But, ya never know!!

the chi-fecta....

that shit would be tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

>the chi-fecta....
>
>that shit would be tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

no that wouldnt be tight

*vomits*

Twista and Com could come up with something a lot iller than a "Go" rmx

hell is wrong with yall? U heard Adrenaline Rush?

"Love Is" should be a nice single to come out with,
its my favorite track on the CD next to Pop's Reprise.

I however, don't consider BE to be a real album, its more like a demo or promotional disc that should be much longer.

On The Lookout 4:
some new music. WTF is going on this year?

>I however, don't consider BE to be a real album, its more like
>a demo or promotional disc that should be much longer.

WTF? The hell you talkin' about?

You really consider the album you heard to be complete? If you do then somethings wrong with you.

On The Lookout 4:
some new music. WTF is going on this year?

Define "complete." It sounds like you have some idea that an album is supposed to be 15-25 tracks long...is that it? Not enough music for you? You deserve more? Com let you down?

Its too short how it is right now. Testify cuts off right when I'm getting into it. Common has to extend the length of the album and change around the beats before it comes out in June. I remember reading somewhere thaat Common stated he wasn't that mad that the album was leaked on the net because they didn't have all the songs.

On The Lookout 4:
some new music. WTF is going on this year?

nowadays u could get away with a sample on some "Love is beautiful" shit but not Com actually singin it. That would be suicide.

niggas would feel quite homo playin that song playboi



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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

I hope it's a different mix where they cut the lebght of the intro and the number of repitions of the chorus.

thats label shit.

i just wanna see a good video for a good song. go is a good song.


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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

and im talking about what i said in my first reply.

"i don't think yall realize the genius beatmaker you got postin' here amongst you all"-buildingblock

>You have "The Corner" up to #3 on 106 & Park... which means
>the kids are ready for some next level heavy, positive, yet
>dope shit...
>

you think this is why "The Corner" is #3?

>
>>You have "The Corner" up to #3 on 106 & Park... which means
>>the kids are ready for some next level heavy, positive, yet
>>dope shit...
>>
>
>you think this is why "The Corner" is #3?

pretty much!!!!

they aint gonna come out and say it... but the youth love "deep" shit... they just dont want thier "deep" shit to be corny.




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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

why is the 50 cents, big mikes, and ying yangs ruling the air waves...bump that!

If somebody told me I had only one hour to live, I’d spend it choking a white man. I’d do it nice and slow."
-Miles Davis

>why is the 50 cents, big mikes, and ying yangs ruling the air
>waves...bump that!

guess what? humans can be stimulated by multiple things at one time.



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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

and the reason why the roots did their biggest numbers with TFA and com did his biggest numbers with LWFC. erykah made "you got me" "contaigous" for folk looking to get into "positivity," but afraid to jump head-on. "the light" the same way. both records had the effect of leveling out something that a specialized group of people (read okayplayers) were already up on, and making it digetable for the masses.

as for 50, et al, it's the same thing: kids who want to identify themselves as street/hardcore/thugs--what have you--can stand behind the 50 superthug image. he translates "the streets" to the masses.

it just so happens that more people, for obvious reasons, want to identify themselves with the 50 side of the same coin.

but in the end of the day, an artist has to run the risk of being caricatured, because kids want to relate to something--doing so helps them shape how they view themselves.

and has Kanye and John Mayer on it, two big name artists.

In the eyes of the label, this makes for an obvious candidate as a single.

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I don't think his "presence" is gonna necessarily help Com sell.

To me, "Faithful" or "They Say" woulda been a much better choice.

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if hes in the video, its gonna help push the record.

I still think its a logical choice.

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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

yeah exactly youve never heard of him because he has a completly different fanbase and could possibly help people hear bout common

>yeah exactly youve never heard of him because he has a
>completly different fanbase and could possibly help people
>hear bout common

*shakes head in disgust*



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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

john mayer is probably more popular than common, and i mean that. not as disrespect to common, but john has had MUCH more exposure. you've been very dismissive in this topic, i suggest you heed that john mayer being on the track (if only for a syllable) could do good things for getting some people aware of common. not every artist can gain a strong fan base solely on their own music/merits, though all should be given the chance. i agree that go shouldn't have been a single if you're comparing it to other potential songs on the album (i.e. be would have made a bloody fantastic single if they cut the part of the upright bass intro where he's playing around).

>john mayer is probably more popular than common, and i mean
>that. not as disrespect to common, but john has had MUCH more
>exposure. you've been very dismissive in this topic, i suggest
>you heed that john mayer being on the track (if only for a
>syllable) could do good things for getting some people aware
>of common. not every artist can gain a strong fan base solely
>on their own music/merits, though all should be given the
>chance. i agree that go shouldn't have been a single if you're
>comparing it to other potential songs on the album (i.e. be
>would have made a bloody fantastic single if they cut the part
>of the upright bass intro where he's playing around).

fuck john mayer's fans...

and fuck you!

how u like them apples?

great apples. shame they're rotten.

>great apples. shame they're rotten.

u mad?

You would probibly be suprised, most of the people that I know who listen to John Mayer are more consumers than actuall listeners, just his name on it may be enough.

"a-HA" Jadakiss

>You would probibly be suprised, most of the people that I
>know who listen to John Mayer are more consumers than actuall
>listeners, just his name on it may be enough.

^^^ white people shit



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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

john mayer is on Be?? please explain! i have nothing against the man or his music but that really doesn't seem to me like a good combination...

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If you can't respect t

>You have jay biggin up Com on the Black Album as this super
>lyricist. EVERYONE heard it.
>
>You got the tru-hop momentum of Kanye goin.
>
>You got John Legend killin the airways with an acoustic song
>(and featured prominently on the album).
>
>You have "The Corner" up to #3 on 106 & Park... which means
>the kids are ready for some next level heavy, positive, yet
>dope shit...
>
>Not to mention that Jada & Twista both just scored with
>heavier themed tracks.
>
>then they get a "club" track from Com.
>
>Let me tell u somethin... there's nothin worse/cornier then
>when people not percieved as being able to make party music
>try to. It may get some spins... but that wont transfer to
>sales... cause Common talkin about "ass" is corny to the
>consumer.
>
>Not to pigeonhole Com... but on another note... its not even a
>true representation of the album. That track is alone on the
>album. I think the kids should be givin a true window of
>what's on the album.
>
>They could strategically use the momentum Com has going with
>Kanye, Legend, Jay, etc... to get the sales... and the shit
>could break thru on some "if you're a rap/hiphop fan, u have
>to have this". That's what i would go for.
>
>Hopefully Kanye's presence can save "Go" and make it not come
>of as another "conscious" MC trying to make a club track.
>
>and look at this "Kweli" single out right now...
>
>*shakes head in disgust*
>
>just my 50 Cents.
>
>P.S. -- All this said... I think Go is dope... just not single
>material at all. I'd go with "Real People" or "They Say"
>
>
>
>And now for a moment of PIFF:
>
>"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
>Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
>I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
>Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" --
>Malcom X

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i just hope that niggas don't start making these 10 and 11 track albums on the regular. i'm not saying that they can't be good or anything and i definetly believe in quality over quantity, but by the same token,the roots who dropped a 10 track album (12 with the hidden joints) and common who's supposed to have 11,aren't really the type of artist that drop albums every year. therfore i kind of feel like they should hit the listener with at least 14 joints. i understand as artists of their caliber that they might not want to force inspiration,but with dudes taking 2 to 3 years to drop music,i feel like 13-14 quality songs aren't too much to ask for. oh,and by the way,i can't really comment on the ''BE'' album because i haven't heard it. i'm in cleveland and i don't know anybody with it. i have every intention of copping the offical joint on may 24th,but got damn,i need to hear something!!!

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If somebody told me I had only one hour to live, I’d spend it choking a white man. I’d do it nice and slow."
-Miles Davis

Any song on this album could be the next single except for Real People, despite it's exceptional lyrics, the beat just might not be a potential hit imo.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

you heard the record.
besides the food.
what could be left?
i like "they say" but that is more a posse cut than anything.

song sounds very cinematic/thematic...

i think radio would eat that song up right now the way things are goin. The played Game's "Dreams" in DC just as much as "How We Do" leading up to the album. People who have heard "Real People" are goin bananas over it. It has that jazzy shit, but it's hiphop to the core and lyrically potent but not preaching.

holla at us!

EDIT: who exactly do u expect to get hyped and buy the album based on "Go"? I mean, what demographic?






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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

"faithful"... u cant go wrong with that song as a single. im pretty sure theyll make a video for that song though. but u right, "Go" is not for little kids. dont front, kids are mostly the ones watching 106 and MTV.

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it's not a mainstream single tho




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Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

the best song is the intro

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to save this joint as a single




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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

when you have this golden opportunity where people are finally starting to open up, this IS a very limp move. Faithful would be a great single, so would Real People, but at this point, i think with the situation we have now, he could actually come with a rapping-on-beat version of "Testify" and people would respond. maybe i'm incorrect, but Faithful or Real People would have definitely been two very safe and sure singles that would at least give people some substance in a way they'd accept and digest.

but at the same time WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT? people bash a dude for 2 fucking years for being too soft and choosing abstinence and trying new things musically and being an artist not just another rapper, and people just rip him every day on these boards, making him the butt of erykah jokes etc, saying they wished he was "street" and "raw" (aka cunducted himself like your average rapper but with better punchlines). of-fucking-course he's going to come with a "doggystyle in the restroom" booty single after his lead-off "gritty" track.

>but at the same time WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT? people bash
>a dude for 2 fucking years for being too soft and choosing
>abstinence and trying new things musically and being an artist
>not just another rapper, and people just rip him every day on
>these boards, making him the butt of erykah jokes etc, saying
>they wished he was "street" and "raw" (aka cunducted himself
>like your average rapper but with better punchlines).
>of-fucking-course he's going to come with a "doggystyle in the
>restroom" booty single after his lead-off "gritty" track.

^^^ pleas copped




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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

people can never just praise someone for being good at their thing...unless "their thing" is somewhat negative, in which case everyone jumps up to say "hey man thats just their thing. its cool".

those people (myself included) who criticized com for goin to soft *no homo* on that last album wont turn around and buy his new album just cause he releases a track talkin about "ass" & "draws".

digest that doggie




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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

who had enough sense to say ATLiens is just as good, if not better than Illmatic. you're not a lame, but the problem is most people are. but

EDIT: but also, beyond that EYE personally think he DOESN'T have to do that to win and keep fans. but all i'm saying is it's no SURPRISE he WOULD possibly mistakingly think that

>EDIT: but also, beyond that EYE personally think he DOESN'T
>have to do that to win and keep fans. but all i'm saying is
>it's no SURPRISE he WOULD possibly mistakingly think that

^^^ truth



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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

>but at the same time WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT? people bash
>a dude for 2 fucking years for being too soft and choosing
>abstinence and trying new things musically and being an artist
>not just another rapper, and people just rip him every day on
>these boards, making him the butt of erykah jokes etc, saying
>they wished he was "street" and "raw" (aka cunducted himself
>like your average rapper but with better punchlines).
>of-fucking-course he's going to come with a "doggystyle in the
>restroom" booty single after his lead-off "gritty" track.

my biggest fantasy is having sex WITHOUT a rubber.

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I completely agree with you, to me "Go" is the worst track on the album, and its just so bizarre how to me the whole album is amazing, classic material, and then "Go" is just bullshit. It really brings the album down a whole lot. I'm glad Common put it at the beginning so I have 8 tracks to get over it!

Stop trippin' "Go" is a dope record. In terms of mainstream radio, don't try to tell me Corners has the legs for that shit. I give it a few more weeks on 106 before some stupid thuglove song by Omarion knocks that out of the tops spots. I love the lyrics for 'Corners' but could care less for that beat personally. After hearing the leaked tracks, "Go" seems like a good choice, but I would've been cool with "Faithful" or "Love is" too.

Botton Line, the label sees John Mayer & Kanye west on the track, they see marketing possibilities.
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Record labels put out singles that they think will be commercially succesful. "Go" has the most commercial appeal so I think it's a good move. If people are gonna buy his cd just because of "go" at least they'll have the opportunity to listen to the other songs and appreciate them as well.

*recruit john mayer to okayplayer*

>Botton Line, the label sees John Mayer & Kanye west on the
>track, they see marketing possibilities.

i understand big business and the need to move units... but this strategy is just dumb white people shit. As if John Mayer has ANYTHING to do with com's demographic. At the end of the day... what percentage of John Mayer's fans do u think would go buy Com's albums? Even if he was prominently used on the track? Com could do anywhere from 750K - 1.5M easily if labels understood who he is as an artist.

When it comes to hiphop/rap artists.

White people will buy whatever black people buy.
Black people will buy whatever isnt corny to them.

The only loophole to that is a group going BEP-corny and bypassing the black market. That is not somethin Com can or would do, hopefully.

Anyway... Com is on a pedestal right now with "Corners" out. By releasing "Go" you're going to take him off that pedestal. He'll go from "dope" to "corny" in two seconds... and they'll attribute any redeeming value of that track to Kanye... and Kanye's next album will have more momentum to go multiplat. That has been the case with all these other Kanye beats, video cameos.



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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

>i understand big business and the need to move units... but
>this strategy is just dumb white people shit. As if John
>Mayer has ANYTHING to do with com's demographic. At the end
>of the day... what percentage of John Mayer's fans do u think
>would go buy Com's albums? Even if he was prominently used on
>the track? Com could do anywhere from 750K - 1.5M easily if
>labels understood who he is as an artist.
>
>When it comes to hiphop/rap artists.
>
>White people will buy whatever black people buy.
>Black people will buy whatever isnt corny to them.
>
>The only loophole to that is a group going BEP-corny and
>bypassing the black market. That is not somethin Com can or
>would do, hopefully.
>
>Anyway... Com is on a pedestal right now with "Corners" out.
>By releasing "Go" you're going to take him off that pedestal.
>He'll go from "dope" to "corny" in two seconds... and they'll
>attribute any redeeming value of that track to Kanye... and
>Kanye's next album will have more momentum to go multiplat.
>That has been the case with all these other Kanye beats, video
>cameos.
>
>
>
>And now for a moment of PIFF:
>
>"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
>Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
>I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
>Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" --
>Malcom X

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this is nothing but the fuckin' truth here.

again: "go" is by no means a bad song (actually, it's dope), but it is totally not a good look for a second, "let's keep the momentum going" single.

can you hear it on a radio playlist? what the fuck is radio gonna do with it? ("and that was 'go,' y'all. next up: cassidy's 'i'm a hustler (remix)!'")

it does not bring anything to the table for anyone. (i.e., with "corners," com is bringing in new fans who are looking to identify with something "conscious"--"go" will not give them that, and the streets are gonna think it's corny, anyway.) the reason "the light" was, like, his only hit is because it provided an avenue for wannabe-bohos to feel like they a part of the team, on some, "hey ya'll, i'm 'deep' too!" and of course it was "sticky" (e.g., you couldn't get it out of your head), as well. but the imagery/association that people got from it--the "i'm conscious too!" factor--is what made it contagious, and everybody knows "stickiness" and "contaigousness" make shit catch on (see kayne supplying both elements to "corners" with the everyman u.s.a./averagejoebackpacker imagery steez, AND a catchy-ass chorus)

that's why i implore geffen/labelguy/com to seriously consider putting "faithful" ("real people" is redonkulous, but let's be real, people (pun intended), that shit would not fit into a radio format, it's too "jazzy") out as the second single instead. "faithful" is "sticky" (word to malcolm gladwell), and if the video is done correctly, it could push com over the top.

And if all else fails, go with "the food." but stay thee FUCK away from 106 & park/trl/hot 97, etc. with "go."

i really mean it.

>that's why i implore geffen/labelguy/com to seriously consider
>putting "faithful" ("real people" is redonkulous, but let's be
>real, people (pun intended), that shit would not fit into a
>radio format, it's too "jazzy") out as the second single
>instead. "faithful" is "sticky" (word to malcolm gladwell),
>and if the video is done correctly, it could push com over the

you might be right about "Real People" being to jazzy... but I think if the radio dj's got behind it (which they are all over 25) it would breakthrough. Also, i like the whole "go against the grain" dopeness factor it would bring to radio. And it's short... 2:47.

I could hear "Faithful" on the radio... but i think it's a lil too heavy lyrically. Kanye's "Jesus Walks" was heavy thematically, but kinda playful lyrically. Com isnt funny or zany... so I dont see him being able to break thru with a religious themed track.

I would fuck with "Your World" as a single for Com too... after hearin how much burn the Game's "Dreams" got on the radio here.

It's funny how cats is talkin this revolution shit... and makin puppet moves.



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"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

it's a bad song.

also com doesn't ride Real People very well, at all.

Possibly more of a chance of getting play on a john mayer radio station more so than a rap oen

>i understand big business and the need to move units... but
>this strategy is just dumb white people shit. As if John
>Mayer has ANYTHING to do with com's demographic. At the end
>of the day... what percentage of John Mayer's fans do u think
>would go buy Com's albums? Even if he was prominently used on
>the track? Com could do anywhere from 750K - 1.5M easily if
>labels understood who he is as an artist.
>

i could say i understand the theory of relativiy but that doesnt make it so. Com can not do 1.5mil easily. There is no chance of that happening, IMO. He could do it over a long period of time with alot of hard work. When it comes to "Go" they are using Mayer not for Com's dem but for Mayer's dem. They are working for NEW fans, not the same ass holes on OKP who downloaded the album a month ahead of time and prolly wont buy it anyways.

>When it comes to hiphop/rap artists.
>
>White people will buy whatever black people buy.
>Black people will buy whatever isnt corny to them.

"on the count of three everybody head back to their fantasy"
- i wasnt aware that black people actually bought albums. When it comes to ANY music (that isnt something like go-go or screwed) white people are the majority consumers so you market to them (although sometimes THRU black people to get to them). So not only do they have Kanyeeze on this track but they got a white guy. Its enough to make a honkey go "humm?" and check it out at the store.

And now for a moment of PIFF:

"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

"everybody gets hated on. a nigga on this board hated on me because I hated him for hatin!" -- Darryl Reeves

Actually, you might be surpised at who likes John Mayer. You also might be surprised at who likes Common, for that matter. I know John Mayer's not everybody's cup of tea, to be sure, but a lot of his music is potent. He's good at capturing a feeling. Also, he's got a monthly column in Esquire, in which he writes some pretty insightful things about music. Check that out if you get the opportunity.



"Men have been taught that it is a virtue to agree with others.
But the creator is the man who disagrees. Men have been taught
that it is a virtue to swim with the current. But the creator
is the man who goes against the current."

About hating "Go." That's probably one of my favorites on the cd.

SIG RIGHT HERE (even tho im wasting my 255 characters in telling you...)

"I convince myself it's on - therefore, it is/
and the melody settles beneath the fact that im just spitting for these kids..." - Aesop Rock

why is he even releasing this as a single?!


none of his fans, in fact, NO ONE LIKES THIS SONG!!!

I swear it's the worst song I've heard in a long time, damn, the "white tee" song sounds better than this bullshit!!

>none of his fans, in fact, NO ONE LIKES THIS SONG!!!

um, i do.

You're the only person in this post up to this point who thinks this is not a good song. The rest just criticized it as a choice for a single. So you kinda have no pulse on what anybody, most especially fans, are feeling. Nice try, but you're alone on this one. "Go" is great.

fine then, but common has like 25 fans that buy his albums, thats 25 more albums he sold, plus i love common's verse to go, i just HATE KANYE AND JOHN MAYER, they ruin the whole song

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>none of his fans, in fact, NO ONE LIKES THIS SONG!!!

That song is dope. I havent heard the rest of the album, "Waiting for the official release on the 24th, but Im really feelin GO right about now!

>I swear it's the worst song I've heard in a long time, damn,
>the "white tee" song sounds better than this bullshit!!

Cm'on man u know you ain't serious.. just stop with all that drama

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Isn't his album meant to be released May 24th?

Sounds like we got some Bit-Torrent mofo's up in huur!!!

i'd personally go with BE but with Chi City..


brandOne.. (c) 2004

FOOD should have been 2nd single.

GO should have been cut,

>Let me tell u somethin... there's nothin worse/cornier then
>when people not percieved as being able to make party music
>try to. It may get some spins... but that wont transfer to
>sales... cause Common talkin about "ass" is corny to the
>consumer.

..i guess "the light" was a stupid choice for a single, too?

y'all kill me

frontin' like com don't talk about ass, cars, and clothes, along with the other issues he addresses in his music. he does it all the time, jus' much differently than the average cat.

this shit ain't new

"..y'all ain't gone too far to see THAT yet!.." (c) common...

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>..i guess "the light" was a stupid choice for a single, too?
>
>y'all kill me
>
>frontin' like com don't talk about ass, cars, and clothes,
>along with the other issues he addresses in his music. he does
>it all the time, jus' much differently than the average cat.
>
>this shit ain't new

is u mad?

We all know Com has meantioned that stuff, but that's not what he's projected to the public (read: his singles) thruought his career. Sometimes i wonder if there is anyone under 30 in charge of these terrible marketing schemes. "Corners" as a first single... brilliant... very thematic beat... takes people to another place when its on. Kanye killed it, Com killed it.

"Go" is dope for Common fans... but it suffers from the standard "I wanna be played in the clubs" vibe. "The Light" had a good run cause it seemed natural for Com and it was a smooth track with a dope storyline/message (read: all from the public perspective). And it was singable. "Go" wont be embraced on that level... and if it is... the tangible results will end up with Kanye, not Com.

This shit aint rocket science... understand hiphop and get ya head out your ass. Com may be at a point in his career where he could strategically take his throne in hiphop, and the nigga is puttin out a wannabe TRL track that's not even representative of the album.

Face it... a guy straddling the fence between street/"conscious" MC making a "club" track is corny. Just ask Nas. That's why his most successful tracks are thematic anthems "If I Ruled The World", "Hate Me Know"... not "Oochie Wally" or "Big Thangs".

people aint tryina hear that shit from him




And now for a moment of PIFF:

"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills
Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X

i would choose "Go" as the lead single, that track is fire. Don't know what people want anymore. Saying the song is "bullshit" is just ludicrous.