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qoolquest
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"damn!!!! damn!!!! damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


          

ugh....got home from black lily....slept for 2 hours.......got picked up by film crew at 6am.....drove to brooklyn.....director explained the scene....we were on a parade float at the parade.....we wern't the roots, we were king solomon and the lionhearts......so we got on this colorful ass float......and maybe shit was cool for about 4 minutes.....saw my drums....no snare stand....no kick pedal.....no bass for hub....and lots of feedback from these 8 speakers that look like the joints in my room.......then we join the procession....and then......all downhill from there.......the other trucks pass us by laughin their asses off........those trucks have 40 speakers on em......they have full scale horn sections......we got an ugly ass incredible hulk green drumset and wack mics...........this is feeling like the apollo.....there's no turning back....we must endure all 26 blocks.......nothin but black folks.....confused looking black folks........folks lookin like "who the fuck is this?.......what this shit"........i try to "reagaeize" our shit. only "you got me" works.....now we are stuck in traffic.......somethin done happened up ahead...the crowd is getting restless....we try "the next calypso".......now tariq's acting like an ass because he dosn't wanna do it no more......i'm like yo......we ain't got nothin else....he's all "let's do 'the lesson'".....in all my years of knowing riq it baffles me that he can't read an audience.......he would do "fuck tha police" at a fop function.....i'm like look at these people do they look like they give a fuck about "dad's in the projects?".......crowds getting restless.......we do "the next movement" for the 8th time.......it dosn't matter because when the song is over we are 2 blocks away from when we first started.....but hold up what's this?.......5 people got ran over by the mack truck ahead of us?.........a child was murdered?........oh god please tell me that spilled hawaian punch over there..........the ground looks like spilled jelly on the streets.....i'm on the verge of throwing up....i stop the group outta respect for the dead....now mofo's is booin!!!!!........what the--....why aren't they mourning?.......no sensitivity.....i threaten to jump ship....this was only block 4 and 1 hour done past......now the director wants to shoot this love scene........problem is we are on shakey ground as it is......and now this is gonna go over the top.........without giving the plot away tariq's love intrest is this jennifer love hewitt type jawn (minus the breasts)....now black women are upset...."who's this white bitch?" looks are coming from all angles.....even rev al sharpton is giving us looks......we shot this embrace/kiss scene like 6 times....now i'm infomed that we have to play in front of a commitee of judges who if they give thumbs down it's curtains and bottles......right then and there i quit...i say tell em our speakers are blown......no one seems to give a fuck but me...i'm like we have a rep to uphold and the last thing i want is to get booed by millions in brooklyn in front of the few people who know us..............i will do anything to see white dudes and coffee shop chicks........anything.....the director says not to worry only 6 blocks left.... (that's 2 hours).....once the crowd dwindles down suddenly tariq gets his nerve to try dancehall/calypso things that on the tourbus he would do flawlessly..............i'm friggin pissed......now it's the end of the line..........because of the lack of speakers we couldn't even explain that we were shooting a film..................................so heads thought we was for real.....................i saw blood and membrains splattered all over the streets.........motherfuckers was giving us the apollo finger..........now self doubt creeps in.........if we are so dope.......why can't we move black people?.....why don't all these bet/rachel look-a-like jawns recognize funk in the flesh.........why are they looking like my crew like we are yag-fu-front?.........................i mean we're good right?...........if wyclef was here he'd be crowned king..............i wanna go home...only to face the wrath of a zillion fans.............from seattle and portland........time to die now.....<P><P><P><P><P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
?uestlove.....
Mr_1989
Sep 07th 1999
1
Ok, I'm back.....
Mr_1989
Sep 07th 1999
2
oh no
Sep 07th 1999
13
      Have you ever gone to the W.I. Parade?
Sep 08th 1999
30
Don't worry ?uest.....
MOBITEL
Sep 07th 1999
3
Sorry...
MOBITEL
Sep 07th 1999
8
Y'all were setup!
Sep 07th 1999
4
fuck....
Sep 07th 1999
5
I was there and I saw y'all, tried to scream, but..............
toy
Sep 07th 1999
6
Things happen for a reason...
Ghax
Sep 07th 1999
7
It could have been worse
Sep 07th 1999
9
what a emotional nightmare,
homebro
Sep 07th 1999
11
OH ?uest...
Django
Sep 07th 1999
10
G'Damn Quest
Sep 07th 1999
12
Damn ?uest
iLL
Sep 07th 1999
14
That ish pisses me off!!!!!!
Sep 07th 1999
15
Yo ?est. Is that bastard
Sep 07th 1999
25
close but........
Sep 07th 1999
26
      Spike lee and the Roots??????
Sep 10th 1999
48
Live Intro/ OZ
ta1one
Sep 08th 1999
28
the Next Foolment
Sep 07th 1999
16
TRAGEDY!!??!
Sep 07th 1999
17
No one....
eD
Sep 07th 1999
18
SOmeOne SaId...
Sep 07th 1999
19
Your day will come..
Sep 07th 1999
20
You need a hug
TreBoogie
Sep 07th 1999
21
awww honey . . .
Sep 07th 1999
22
YAGGFU FRONT
headymurphy
Sep 07th 1999
23
hell no
Sep 07th 1999
24
don't worry bout it, ?uest
Sep 08th 1999
27
Okay...before I get upset.
Sep 08th 1999
29
what was up with the slobberin' on the white girl jawn?
toy
Sep 08th 1999
31
Exaggerating but you get my point
Sep 08th 1999
32
      HUH?
Sep 10th 1999
51
      Colorism and inter-racial dating/marriages
Sep 13th 1999
60
           ring the alarm
Sep 13th 1999
62
           I believe...
Sep 14th 1999
66
           Now you read minds???
Sep 18th 1999
76
                whatever you say &quot;sista&quot;
Sep 18th 1999
79
                     lawd have mercy
Sep 19th 1999
80
                          .....and i love you too nay......
Sep 20th 1999
82
                          ps
Sep 20th 1999
83
           MY REPLY
Sep 14th 1999
73
                Answers
Sep 18th 1999
77
      response to nahymsa
Sep 15th 1999
74
           here we go again................
toy
Sep 15th 1999
75
           About what ya said
Sep 18th 1999
78
so stupid!!!! why am i so damn stoopid!!!! what was i thinking?
Sep 08th 1999
34
I got a quick question
Starang
Sep 08th 1999
35
Now see I didn't say that
Sep 08th 1999
38
Uh uh......................
toy
Sep 09th 1999
40
Clarity
Sep 09th 1999
41
      YOU weren't there!!
Sep 10th 1999
49
hahahaha
Sep 09th 1999
42
Question...
Sep 08th 1999
36
      you haitian?? my pops is Antiguan :-)
Sep 08th 1999
39
What y'all should have done...
Sep 08th 1999
33
NEWS ABOUT THE ACCIDENT!!
kiOn
Sep 08th 1999
37
Im Afrikkan. . .and Moved
Iyara
Sep 09th 1999
43
whats up with the negative characterizations of black people?
Sep 10th 1999
45
mc's and west indies
Sep 10th 1999
44
wow! finaly some constructive criticism up in this piece..........
Sep 10th 1999
46
diggity damn ?uestlove!!!
Sep 10th 1999
47
Science...no doubt...
Sep 11th 1999
52
oh i forgot category 8.....
Sep 11th 1999
53
      the ? that roared
Sep 11th 1999
54
      santana's formula is.....................
Sep 12th 1999
55
           Carlos can only be Santana?
Sep 14th 1999
64
           ME'SHELL HELL
toy
Sep 14th 1999
68
           BEATS RHYMES AND LIFE WAS EXCELLENT
REALity
Sep 19th 1999
81
                NO IT WAS NOT!!!!!
gREGbASS
Sep 22nd 1999
84
           9th badge - The Legendary
Sep 14th 1999
65
      there's a fine line, isn't there??
toy
Sep 13th 1999
61
           the answer
Sep 13th 1999
63
                the artist
Beyonder
Sep 14th 1999
67
                prince.......
Sep 14th 1999
69
                     so then, another question,?
Sep 14th 1999
70
                Activism Article
SoulChild
Sep 14th 1999
71
thanks
Sep 13th 1999
59
mix cap'n crunch w/ bran flakes
SoulChild
Sep 14th 1999
72
WRONG!!
Sep 10th 1999
50
no snare!UGH where was the illist stage manager?
Okayspyrit
Sep 12th 1999
56
Still unclear on something, ?uest and fellow Okayers....
concarne
Sep 12th 1999
57
&quot;new guy&quot; [not the newguy down the street] i already talked ab...
Sep 12th 1999
58

Mr_1989

Tue Sep-07-99 06:09 AM

  
1. "?uestlove....."
In response to Reply # 0


          

Don't worry, things could have been worse...how?....uh I wasn't prepared for that ?uestion, but I'll come back when I think of something! LOL<P><BR>"1989???...was the year in my life when responsibilty was only a word, not a reality. It was all about kangols, breaking, gold rope chains, shell toe addidas(with matching FAT laces), dope MC's(with skills),sheepskin/lumberjack bomber coats, Lee jeans, ghetto candy(now & laters!), wave caps, name buckle belts, mama jokes, freeze tag, fights with fists, two turntables and a mic (don't forget the backround dancers), girls wore biking shorts under short skirts, Atari 2600 was the shit, superman underoos, telling ya girl "IT'S QUITS" (cause she got a jheri curl!)...etc!!!!!"--hence....MR. 1989<P>"I can mangle a quote anytime I feel the need"--Mr. 1989<P>

  

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Mr_1989

Tue Sep-07-99 06:14 AM

  
2. "Ok, I'm back....."
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*in sincerest voice*<BR>"At least you weren't the stinkin' okayplayer at Black Lily" (see Nazzie's post in general/concert)<P>I hope that makes you feel better.<P>>>>"...like we were Yag-Fu-Front"<BR>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!<P><BR>"1989???...was the year in my life when responsibilty was only a word, not a reality. It was all about kangols, breaking, gold rope chains, shell toe addidas(with matching FAT laces), dope MC's(with skills),sheepskin/lumberjack bomber coats, Lee jeans, ghetto candy(now & laters!), wave caps, name buckle belts, mama jokes, freeze tag, fights with fists, two turntables and a mic (don't forget the backround dancers), girls wore biking shorts under short skirts, Atari 2600 was the shit, superman underoos, telling ya girl "IT'S QUITS" (cause she got a jheri curl!)...etc!!!!!"--hence....MR. 1989<P>"I can mangle a quote anytime I feel the need"--Mr. 1989<P>

  

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PoetessCrystal
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Tue Sep-07-99 10:36 AM

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13. "oh no"
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(since i know you dont drink)<BR>you need a warm blanket and a cup of tea<BR>for real<P>i cant believe -well yes i CAN believe people acted like that.."the times they are a changin"<BR>and im scared to see whats going to happen in the next century<P>come on now, a dead child and the parade keeps going? i heard about this<BR>the sign are all here now<BR>i dont want to sound like im on some "save yourself-jesus is the answer" <BR>but im scared....<P>poetess<P><P>"we love you ?uestlove, oh yes we do, we love you ?uestlove, and we'll be true. When you're not near us we're blue, oh ?uestlove we love you."<BR>ya-ya99<P><P><P>"I KNOW U LIKE..WHODAFUCK IS HE TO BE TALKIN TO ME LIKE THIS..<BR>IM JUST THE AVERAGE OKP...<BR>I DONT SPEAK FOR THE BOARDS I <BR>SPEAK FOR ME" Donwill (but will don?)1999<P><BR>NO GOD, NO PEACE - KNOW GOD, KNOW PEACE

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nahymsa
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Wed Sep-08-99 07:46 AM

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30. "Have you ever gone to the W.I. Parade?"
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As I said before, most likely nobody knew that the kids (3 godbless) were dead or even that it was children. Most likely people were wondering what's the hold up with the floats and/or simply that there was a minor accident.<P>People are cruel in this world but for the most part, the people who attend the parade are families w/ kids and good spirited people....the kind that would help you out & have a profound respect for the dead. How do I know, because I regularly go & I've seen it. Most wouldn't want or be unsympathetic to a dead child. <P>

  

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MOBITEL

Tue Sep-07-99 07:00 AM

  
3. "Don't worry ?uest....."
In response to Reply # 0


          

You're Still # 1........Come over to Europe - we don't front on The Roots.

  

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MOBITEL

Tue Sep-07-99 07:54 AM

  
8. "Sorry..."
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>You're Still # 1........Come over to Europe <BR>>- we don't front on The <BR>>Roots. <P>Not merely ?uest but the entire Roots crew.<BR>

  

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Nesta
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Tue Sep-07-99 07:07 AM

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4. "Y'all were setup!"
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Here I go pointing fingers without knowing the real deal, but here I go.<P>As a veteran of the loveley West Indian Day Parade (I've been going off an on for the last 15 years)! YES, I missed it yesterday but I had a very good reason.<P>Ya'll shouldn't have been allowed to go out there without a mack truck full of speakers. Anything less and no matter who you are, heads are gonna clown you and give you blank stares. <P>Secondly, the parade is really carnival for West Indians who don't go home for carnival. So you got Trini heads, Haitian heads (MY PEOPLE), Jamaican heads, Basians, etc. and all they want to hear is "Jump and Wine" and "Dollar Wine" - U know "Cents, 5 cents, ten cents. Dollar!". STRAIGHT UP SOCCA! So if you ain't givin them straight up socca and you don't have a bangin' system with a rack of twenty macrotechs pushin it, you're asking for trouble.<P>If I were there I would've given up mad love nonetheless.<P>And yeah two years ago The Fugees had a float and it was HOT. They had the aforementioned truck full of speakers Wclef was playing the Haitian music (this is right after Wyclef's Carnival came out) and L Boogie was singin and EVERY DAMN HAITIAN UNDER THIRTY WAS JUMPIN' WITH THEM from the beginning of the parade all the way too the end.<P>So, in short y'all were damn near doomed from the get. It's no reflection on y'all<P>"Nesta, if I didn't know you, I'd think you were an illiterate stalker" - Angieee aka 'Stress.<P>"Esseffastress" - Me (I guess)<P>"You're so NOT money, baby!" - Nou Ra<P>"Trust only in change. Cause hearts change, but betrayal always feels the same." - Me'shell Ndegeocello, "Bitter"

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"I think Brett Favre basically is a selfish guy, Brett Favre goes out there with his gray hair, his Wranglers and gets up when he gets hit. I understand why people like that. But there's another side. He's a selfish guy." - Teddy Atlas

  

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ILLWILL
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Tue Sep-07-99 07:19 AM

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5. "fuck...."
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5 people <BR>>got ran over by the mack <BR>>truck ahead of us?.........a child was <BR>>murdered?........oh god please tell me that <BR>>spilled hawaian punch over there..........the ground <BR>>looks like spilled jelly on the <BR>>streets.....i'm on the verge of throwing <BR>>up....i stop the group outta respect <BR>>for the dead....<P>that's terrible man. The whole thing should have been ended when that happened. You're a good man for stopping the group. That was the only right thing to do.<P>now mofo's is .....booin!!!!!........what <BR>>the--....why aren't they mourning?.......no sensitivity<P>that shit is ruthless, how are they gonna boo you when there's a dead child in the fucking street. They'll get what they deserve one day, what goes around and all that shit.<P>now self doubt creeps <BR>>in.........if we are so dope.......why can't <BR>>we move black people?.....<P>you can, those folks were probably just on some "bout it bout it, who is these 1970's band motherfuckers? where is Nore? where is the Ruff Ryders?" kinda shit. Don't trip, the cats with GOOD taste in music appreciate you.<P>besides from the charm and good looks, it sucks to be me---me

i'm back...?

  

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toy

Tue Sep-07-99 07:28 AM

  
6. "I was there and I saw y'all, tried to scream, but.............."
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y'all looked positively miserable (understandably so!), and my screams were drowned out by the blasting music of the float behind you. That was an unfair thing for the director to put y'all through. Anybody who goes to the Parade knows that a float w/ no blasting capability is no float at all. <P>I don't think you should take it personal, though. Black folks got love for y'all....I know I do....there were other Okayplayers out there, too, and we tried to shout as loud as we could to show support (y'all looked sooooooo unhappy) but I know y'all couldn't hear. <P>If it means anything, the Roots (or whatever your characters were) float made my day!!! <P>And hey, ain't the Pink Tea Cup the bomb???? (grits, that's all I have to say......)<P>countrified/everythang I eat is fried/got a southern drawl/I'm so country y'all<BR>-Erykah

  

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Ghax

Tue Sep-07-99 07:35 AM

  
7. "Things happen for a reason..."
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Keep ya head up, ?uest, Black Thought et al...

  

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t510
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Tue Sep-07-99 07:56 AM

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9. "It could have been worse"
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You could have had those millios in a screaming frenzy had you done "Feel My Heat" ("That's the new shit!")<P>Like Toy..I was screaming and waving my hands in support. However, like Nesta, I had to go find the Haitian float (damnit, Ti-Vice was supposed to be on it!)and some Haitian food. People wanted to hear their native music, plus, there are a lot of older people in the crowd who had no clue who you were. On the real, I'm surprised my non-Roots fan friend spotted Black Thought before I did. Oh well, its over now...we all have our bad days (though not in front of millions <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">)<P><BR>"Peanut Butter Capn Crunch is the best"--me<P>"That is THE WORST cereal of all.....taste like finger paint and lotioned breast nipples together!"--Mr. 1989<P>"Damn, now I wanna bake a pound cake"--the fifth<P>"Yo, If you can make that, I'll suck your toes!!"--NazDak<P>"Why are all my quotes food related?"--me<BR>Peace and Love <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">

  

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homebro

Tue Sep-07-99 09:22 AM

  
11. "what a emotional nightmare,"
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HoMeBrO SaYs horrid what happened there, If i was emceeing there, i would left right there and then, the hell with money, when u got chaos going on.<P>its good u sensed the tension in the crowd, and left later on.<P>keep it moving, forget about the past, because those who live in the past will be lost in the future.<P>remember that.<P><P>

  

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Django

Tue Sep-07-99 08:02 AM

  
10. "OH ?uest..."
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I'm sorry you are so down...one day some day everyone will understand and feel your music. <BR>Take care...<BR>~peace~<BR>Amber

  

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nickelz45
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Tue Sep-07-99 09:46 AM

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12. "G'Damn Quest"
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That's worse than my nightmare dream that I have when Rocking a crowd on infinity(this is in my dream mind you) anyway's in my dream err.....nightmare I go to thrown on the next joint only to screw up and there is no record on the table(what the I knew that it was here) nevertheless the whole crowd stops and stares at me and that is when I wake up screaming(for reals). Uh What this has to do with your story I dunno but I had to let this out. Sorry about your horrible day but when in San Diego WE WILL REP HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEACE oh yeah you aren't playing a club you will be ROCKING A WHOLE effing BLOCK!!!! This block will not be a block like the one you were just on.<P><BR><a href="http://www.conceptionrecords.com">http://www.conceptionrecords.com<;/a><P>Buy Da Grassroots when they come out in September. <P>Why do flies be tryin to chill wit people like they are human?- Don Will<P>"no baby you are my okaytoyboy"- EMCEE YARDWORK<P>"I do not know how to teach philosophy without becoming a disterber of the peace"-Benjamin Spinoza<BR>

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iLL

Tue Sep-07-99 11:03 AM

  
14. "Damn ?uest"
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I don' really know how to respond to that other than to say we all are tested at different times for different reasons. That's so fucked up those kids were killed. From gray skies come blue, sunshine and rain are both needed so the seed can grow and all that. Things will look up for ya.<P><BR>Peace and love,<BR>-iLL <P>PS: "Busted Loop" was the shit!!<P>I can't knock you for not knowing/ But I could for you not wanting to learn/ Nor for asking/ But I could for you not willing to earn/ No I can't, for someone to even havta tell me twice/ So this music is my sacrifice/ So I be dedicated, determinated, and dependable/ To demonstrate directly/ And use the opportunity correctly/ So forget the gold teeth/ Forget the bald head/ forget it sound country/ Just remember what I said... -Atlanta's own Cee-Loo

  

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illmatic
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Tue Sep-07-99 11:16 AM

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15. "That ish pisses me off!!!!!!"
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I'm gonna personally go to Brooklyn and beat everybodies ass!!!!...?? Mofos best watch out! I feel your pain..... o ya, the directors certainly shouldn't be puttin you through that shit.... does that bastad even know who he's dealing with?!...... The Roots are the most innovative group in hip-hop and they shouln't be effed wit! peeaaaace!<P><P>"It's the dawn of the emcee who think before he spit." -Kweli<P><BR>

  

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two
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Tue Sep-07-99 07:24 PM

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25. "Yo ?est. Is that bastard"
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Spike Lee by any chance? Yo. CaN i Be in it?



be the change you wish to see in your pocket.

  

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qoolquest
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Tue Sep-07-99 11:37 PM

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26. "close but........"
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>Spike Lee by any chance? <P>nope. spike is next month.<P>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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spirit
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48. "Spike lee and the Roots??????"
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>>Spike Lee by any chance? <P>>nope. spike is next month.<P>Quest, you can't jsut leave us hanging here. Does this mean the Roots and spike Lee will be collaborating? Besides being a superb filmmaker, Spike also directed one of my all-time favorite hip-hop video's: ATCQ's "Scenario". <P>Back to the topic at hand. I'm sorry to hear that children were killed. As far as your performance goes, bad sound will ruin any show. I'm sure you know this and it's still of little consolation. Keep your head up, main. You'll have more speakers at next year's parade, when you rock it with a revenge, right? <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><P>Peace,<P>Spirit<BR><a href="http://amphibians.iuma.com">http://amphibians.iuma.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://infiniteloop.iuma.com">http://infiniteloop.iuma.com<;/a><BR>DC hip-hop is on the rise...<P>"High grade when I create beats/if I don't get signed/I'ma be the most dope bum that ever walked the streets" - <BR>Aychell (HL, of Khemystery)<P>"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a tool of the conspiracy" - unknown

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
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ta1one

Wed Sep-08-99 05:59 AM

  
28. "Live Intro/ OZ"
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The Oz intro sounds alot like your Without a Doubt intro, Any resemblence with cowbells?<P><P><P>

  

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16. "the Next Foolment"
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Damn, ya'll had one effed up day, on a multicolored float, but like they said it could have been worse, it can't get any worse...............can it???<P><BR>Gravity<P>Representin' KLANGSKWAD INC., <P>A beautiful woman is the hell of the soul, the purgatory of the purse, and the paradise of the eyes - unknown<BR>

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17. "TRAGEDY!!??!"
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You ever watch Comic View ?uest? Do you remember that comic, FACEMAN? He used to say f'ed up ish like crack jokes on the handicapped then say, "TRAAAAGEDY...TRAAAAGEDY!" LOL!!!<P>Reading your story, I couldn't help but to say to myself, "BROOKLYN...TRAAAAAGEDY..TRAAAAAAAGEDY!!"<P>LOL!! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>Eric!

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eD

Tue Sep-07-99 12:48 PM

  
18. "No one...."
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should have to endure that type of ordeal. Especially after a child was killed??!!?? That ish ain't right. I can't even BEGIN to elaborate on what's wrong with that. I wonder if you consider this film worth it after this. You toughed it out as much as you could, realized that it became futile, and knew when to get out, I respect that.<P>But things will get better, and when you get to San Diego, we will rep HARD for y'all (like Nicklez said).We, the true music fans, are the ones that appreciate you the most, and that's what matters. PEACE<P>E<P>-'how can you be so thin and live so phat?'<P>-"If it wasn't for breakbeats, you'd be rhymin' over my shit" -Rahzel<P>-"consider me effed..." -eD

  

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19. "SOmeOne SaId..."
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before it all comes together, things fall apart.<P>maybe they were right!<P><BR>HIM

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20. "Your day will come.."
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WOW.. I'm at a loss of words for the people involved w/ the mack truck, my heart pours out to the child killed. A moment of silence to mourn for those lost was generous, I can't comprehend how some f*cking people can be so rude as to boo at ya'll for giving up some damn respect for lives lost. And ?uest why are you questioning the roots potential ability to move people through your music, ya'll help shape everyday lives. There will be a time when Roots get everthing they deserve, and it's not like they not getting it because it's their fault.. It's the neglect people have for real music. I know ya'll put in mad overtime hrs. for everything, so my heart goes out to ya'll as well. ?uest get some damn sleep yo you need it.. Paz<P><BR>Francheska

  

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TreBoogie

Tue Sep-07-99 01:40 PM

  
21. "You need a hug"
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I'm sorry you had such a horrible day then "come home to face the wrath of a zillion fans...from Seattle to Portland". Just think of it this way, if we didn't love you guys so much, we wouldn't be as upset & disappointed, right? <P>You need a *hug*. I'm sorry you had to witness that terrible accident. What else can I say, I hope you feel better as the day goes by. <P>Peace & Blessings<BR>Tre' Boogie

  

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22. "awww honey . . ."
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Nowwww, I know why you sounded like that earlier today. I love ya . . . call me<BR>T

  

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headymurphy

Tue Sep-07-99 07:18 PM

  
23. "YAGGFU FRONT"
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Damn they were nice, I still play that album like when Im down on new music that just doesnt like hack it, So are they still around or what?<BR>North Carolina represent shun.So did Quest 'dis'<BR>them I'm not sure?hope not!

  

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24. "hell no"
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So did Quest 'dis' them <BR>>I'm not sure?hope not! <P><P>no dis. that was a reference to the "been around the world...." song about getting respect.<BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

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(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
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27. "don't worry bout it, ?uest"
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The director sold you out, but at least therewasn't a big sign saying "THIS IS THE ROOTS". Probably most of them didn't know it was you guys, they were checkin for the calypso. You know if it was a parade dedicated to hip-hop that heads would be feelin the roots... for real...even my people that like NORE and all that feel the roots. It's not just "coffee shop chicks and white dudes". Everyone gets stuck in some shit like that; to quote lefty in Donnie Brasco "fuggedaboutit" peace, resone<P>"claimin' you got pull, when the only pull you got is the wool over your eyes"- Talib Kweli<BR>"it's the end of the time, so I gots to gets mine"- Lil' Dap

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29. "Okay...before I get upset."
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1) its the West Indian parade.....biggest parade in NYC!!!!! Why come half assed with insufficient speakers? This is BK (where I'm from, I go to the parade almost every year) you will get dissed. Perhaps since this is a huge event for black people, a little bit more time & care to your presentation should've been given by whoever handles those things for you. Most parade participants are practicing months in advance and usually non west Indian hip hop artist come correct with their floats or their stands - to make up for the fact that they aren't doing traditional reggae, soca, or calypso music. <P>2) I didn't go to the parade this year but my friends & family did. Anyone who goes knows that it is hard to tell whats going on 2 ft away from you because of the millions of people in attendance. A friend of mine got hurt 4 years ago & nobody noticed - that is why you got booed when you stopped, no doubt most of the participates weren't aware that someone was dead up ahead. I've been @ the parade when people were shot & nobody know til we got home. Please don't act like the attendees were unfeeling savages..that is not the case. <P>3) Why are y'all gonna come up in the West Indian parade - essentially the biggest black assembly in NYC and slob all over a white girl with the most beautiful black women from damn near every part of the world watching? Common sense tells you that that ones not going to fly. I mean come on!! <P>4) Do y'all dance to your own music? Really, I love the Roots material but most of it will not work @ a parade that glorifies celebration & DANCING!!! Had Wyclef (who I can't stand) been there he would've done his material that suited the occasion. Sounds like the Roots weren't prepared @ all for the parade then y'all wonder why people aren't feeling you. Now you've left a negative impression including the vibe that you don't respect your own by not being ready for one of their biggest celebrations. The Roots are a great group but sometimes I wonder what y'all (or maybe it management) be thinking.<P><P><BR>

  

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toy

Wed Sep-08-99 08:51 AM

  
31. "what was up with the slobberin' on the white girl jawn?"
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just askin'.........ain't tryin' to start no ish.......<P><BR>countrified/everythang I eat is fried/got a southern drawl/I'm so country y'all<BR>-Erykah

  

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32. "Exaggerating but you get my point"
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With black men trippin' all over each other for any nonblack woman that looks their way and the general anger present in our community revolving that issue ...it doesn't seem too smart to me (filming a movie or not) to roll up in sea of black face, many of them women, with a white love interest.<P>

  

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51. "HUH?"
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>With black men trippin' all over each <BR>>other for any nonblack woman that <BR>>looks their way and the general <BR>>anger present in our community revolving <BR>>that issue ...it doesn't seem too <BR>>smart to me (filming a movie <BR>>or not) to roll up in <BR>>sea of black face, many of <BR>>them women, with a white love <BR>>interest. <BR>Maybe you should of said S O M E Black men in the above post...<BR>OH, and I don't see sisters slobbin' down white dudes whenever I go to Soho/Uptown Manhattan/Park Slope Brooklyn to chill/whatever huh?!? <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> I also believe that if someone wants to be with a person of another race, so be it...shit ain't hurting me and what's the problem with it anyway? <P>Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P>'OH! GOMEN NASAI!' - me<BR>"Don't be speakin' japaMAnese to me!" - Sugah <BR>'ummm, get off the phone and go to bed baby!' - me<P>my boo's published poem from last year (this year very soon!!)<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#Heaven">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#Heaven<;/a> onEarth <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>"SO, what's the difference between us?<BR>We can start at the penis!!<BR>OR we can scream I JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK!<BR>and see who really means it!!" <BR>~Eminem - "What's The Difference Between Us" <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/sad.gif"><BR><a href="http://reviewz.simplenet.com/jointz/dre_difference.ram">http://reviewz.simplenet.com/jointz/dre_difference.ram<;/a>

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nahymsa
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60. "Colorism and inter-racial dating/marriages"
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1) Given the general negative statements about black people being thrown around constantly on this site, I hardly think I'm being out of the ordinary with my comment BUT to be clear, I am speaking generally about the abundance of black men dating/marrying/glorifying non black women.<P>2) Check the statistics, black men marry outside of their race 4xs (if not more) than black women. Numerous articles, surveys, studies, etc. had been done to document and discuss this situation. So while there are some black women who choose mates outside of their "race" (for lack of a better word) we don't do it in the numbers that black males do. There are reasons for that including the nature of racism & how it impacts on each gender -if you want we can talk about it.<P>3) the black population of the US is about 85% racially mixed (thru force or by choice). The issue isn't just about whether mixing is okay (my sister & brother are half white and numerous fam members are mixed with something). The issue is racism which leads to a color caste system that relegates black women and their physical attributes @ the bottom of the "pretty" totem pole, leading to an increase in black male/any other than black female couples. We can talk about that too.<P>

  

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62. "ring the alarm"
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>1) Given the general negative statements about <BR>>black people being thrown around constantly <BR>>on this site, <P><BR>you know......i couldn't call it.....then i looked, and looked.....and i realized.....this is what this is all about!!!!!! i think you are hostile to me because of your dislike for what went down at the parade concerning tariq's on screen love intrest....it's as clear as day.......<P><P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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66. "I believe..."
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Isn't it part of the script that he has a white love interest?<P>Last I knew, you had said that. It's based on a true story also, right (the movie)?<P>anyways, if you don't agree, don't go see the movie.<P>Personally, i don't see the problem with interacial relationships...i could deal with the looks i got or the flack people need to dish out, cause damn, if i love someone, who<BR>can tell me differently?<P><BR>peace,<BR>Kyle

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nahymsa
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76. "Now you read minds???"
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Brotha, you sent me a personal email about this & I responded with the answers to your questions. Now you come up in here & make that implication when I've said so many things otherwise, told you precisely what bothered me about your post...and it wasn't the fact that Tariq's movie role requires him to have a non black love interest...give me a break.<P>It isn't right what you're doing by making that post. Since this is a fan site and there are so many groupies here, you're POV most likely will be taken as accurate when it is not. Don't be guessing about what I think...I'm intelligent enough to speak my mind with clarity and grown enough to do it without being petty. If you want to know where I'm coming from ask & then accept what I say are my thoughts as the truth since you CAN't know any different. It isn't right and it isn't fair and frankly I think you could do better.

  

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79. "whatever you say &quot;sista&quot;"
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<BR>>It isn't right what you're doing by <BR>>making that post. Since this <BR>>is a fan site and there <BR>>are so many groupies here, you're <BR>>POV most likely will be taken <BR>>as accurate when it is not.<P>despite what you say......whenever i state my opinion i was say it's my opinion. and i never force my views on others.....trust me ask all the vets....i've argued, cursed, got cursed, and made up with all these "groupies"........if you wern't so concerned with making sure that you don't fall under that umbrella (so-called groupies) then you would find out that i'm actually a cool person that bends over backwards for "groupies"<P> <BR> and in the future i won't be guessing about what <BR>you think...<P><BR>I think <BR>>you could do better. <BR>-nayshma<P>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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nahymsa
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80. "lawd have mercy"
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you know what Quest.....u really on some next shit with that post too but its alright. How about this, don't post to me, I won't post to you & please...no more personal emails...okay?

  

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qoolquest
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82. ".....and i love you too nay......"
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check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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qoolquest
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83. "ps"
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& please...no more <BR>>personal emails...okay? <P><P>wow. nice touch there. if i didn't know any better i'd say that i e-mailed you at least 200 times.<P>why you tryin to play me out? i emailed you 1 time, simply because i thought that it would be wrong to take out any hostility on someone and publicly flog them because of a misunderstanding. don't get it twisted i don't lose sleep at night thinking about e-mailing you.<P>if you don't want to be e-mailed take your e-mail info off okayplayer simple as that..........<P><BR>and if you are tired of this cat and mouse game of who gets the last word in just DON'T RESPOND ANYMORE.....SIMPLE AS THAT....LET IT DIE.<P><BR>don't go all out saying "don't respond to my post" and turn around and respond again........just let this die......you treat me like shit anyway.....what do you care? let this die if you truly want to be left alone. if you respond we will all know that you are full of shit.<P>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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73. "MY REPLY"
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>1) Given the general negative statements about <BR>>black people being thrown around constantly <BR>>on this site, I hardly think <BR>>I'm being out of the ordinary <BR>>with my comment BUT to be <BR>>clear, I am speaking generally about <BR>>the abundance of black men dating/marrying/glorifying <BR>>non black women. <BR>Are you basing the above comment on ?uest's sarcastic reply?? (YOU DO KNOW HE WAS BEING SARCASTIC RIGHT!? <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">)<P>>2) Check the statistics, black men marry <BR>>outside of their race 4xs (if <BR>>not more) than black women. Numerous <BR>>articles, surveys, studies, etc. had been <BR>>done to document and discuss this <BR>>situation. So while there are some <BR>>black women who choose mates outside <BR>>of their "race" (for lack of <BR>>a better word) we don't do <BR>>it in the numbers that black <BR>>males do. <BR>SO, that's a good enough reason to generalize about Black men? <P>>There are reasons for that including the nature >of racism & how it impacts on each gender<BR>> -if you want we can talk about it. <BR>NO NEED!<P>>3) the black population of the US <BR>>is about 85% racially mixed (thru <BR>>force or by choice). The <BR>>issue isn't just about whether mixing <BR>>is okay (my sister & brother <BR>>are half white and numerous fam <BR>>members are mixed with something). <BR>>The issue is racism which leads <BR>>to a color caste system that <BR>>relegates black women and their physical <BR>>attributes @ the bottom of the <BR>>"pretty" totem pole, leading to an <BR>>increase in black male/any other than <BR>>black female couples. We can talk <BR>>about that too. <BR>Where do you get your "facts"??<BR>PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME...MY SISTER!<P>Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P>'OH! GOMEN NASAI!' - me<BR>"Don't be speakin' japaMAnese to me!" - Sugah <BR>'ummm, get off the phone and go to bed baby!' - me<P>my boo's published poem from last year (this year very soon!!)<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth<;/a> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">

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77. "Answers"
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1) I'm basing my comments on what I've read @ this site which strikes me as a lot of anti-black sentiment. 1 post literally said "I hate niggers". The fact that it seemed to be by a black person makes it even worse. The idea that black people now are calling other blacks "niggers" BASED on behavior they perceive to be negative, while presumably implying that they themselves aren't "niggers" is wrong to me.<P>2) I made a general statement regarding the behavior of SOME black men...if it wasn't clear before, I'm making it clear NOW.<P>3) The last census stated that of the approximately 250 thousand black/white mixed couples...something like 180K of them were black male/white female while the rest were white male/black female. This wouldn't include all the nonmarried couples where I would assume the breakdown is about the same. That ends up being about 4xs as much and that's not including those who didn't participate in the census. Now the # of interracial couples are RELATIVELY small but given the current problems that face black men (jail, death, unemployment, etc.) and the affect that's having on the single black male population (remember the CO's speech in Slam) those #s may seem like too high for single black women....feel me???<P>My information regarding the racial mix of black people in the US, the color caste system, and the politics surrounding it comes from reading the likes of Henry Louis Gates Jr, Bell Hooks, Franz Fanon, Ivan Van Sertima, John Henrik Clark along with others and just plain common sense. Its clear most of us didn't look how we do now when we were first dragged here...there was heavy racial mixing (forced or not) not just with whites but with Native Americans too (my fam is an example), you might want to check out the book Black Indians. Or u might want to read "Perceived Attractiveness and the African Self Conscious"..I think that was from the Journal of Black Psychology. Many respected black authors & historians have talked about the same issues I've mentioned...perhaps you'd like to check them out...and enlighten yourself, my brotha <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">. <BR>

  

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74. "response to nahymsa"
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>With black men trippin' all over each <BR>>other for any nonblack woman that <BR>>looks their way<P>Im usually real p.c., and have even told my mother that people should date whoever theyre feeling (when she said she would cuss me out right in front of her if I ever brought a white girl in her house), but I must say that what you wrote above isnt the case at all. Going into the new millenium im pretty sure that a good majority of brothas believe that black/latino/caribbean is beautiful. Im not sayin I would never date a white female (havent yet) but shorty would have to be EXCEPTIONAL, im talkin a vast knowledge of hip hop, down to earth as hell, cant be bourgeois (boojie for yall ebonic lovers), cant be worried about whats in my pockets, and look more than presentable. Where as with a sista, natural hair and a good attitude and personality is all I really need. It would take A LOT for me to pass up a sista for a white girl, I dont think I know anybody "trippin over themselves for any nonblack female looking their way". Some brothas sell out (no, a sell out doesnt just equate to dating a white girl, its more than that), some brothas just give up after getting dogged out, and some just wanna take the easy way out with a female that wont give them any lip, and will go along with whatever they say, with no kind of argument. I have yet to be in any of those categories. Just like Im sure there are good, single black women left in this world, there are men out there who value yall for the beautiful but difficult to understand phenomenon that you are.<P> <BR>and the general <BR>>anger present in our community revolving <BR>>that issue<P>To each his own, if the next man wants to date out of his race, let him do that. Thats him, chances are hes missing out. If youre not friends or family you have no right judging a man on who he dates. Even if you are friends or family it should go no further than constructive criticism. Actions come based on experiences, a mans experiences will lead him to whatever path he chooses with whatever nationality of a woman. From the age of 16 and up a man doesnt need people telling him whats right and whats wrong, what he shouldnt be doing, because chances are hes gonna do exactly what he wants anyway, or rebel if he feels like hes being held down.<P> <BR>...it doesn't seem too <BR>>smart to me (filming a movie <BR>>or not) to roll up in <BR>>sea of black face, many of <BR>>them women, with a white love <BR>>interest. <P>It seemed smart to the director, a setting of a movie is just that, if anybody at the parade saw cameras and knew who tariq was, they would say "okay, this cant be a roots documentary theyre filming". It had to have been fairly obvious they were shooting a movie, and those people that play roles in movies are called actors who do the job of ACTing like theyre whoever the character is, everybodys gotta live. You can bet the house that if most of my money came from small royalties, and touring and they said "we got a movie for you, but your girl is white" if the role was good enough, my name would be on the dotted line. Chances are thought isnt dating a white girl in real life, and if he is what business is that of ours?

  

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toy

Wed Sep-15-99 09:22 AM

  
75. "here we go again................"
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I think a lot has changed, for better and for worse. I'm glad that nowadays, "thickness" (why do I hate that word? I ain't gravy!!) and "nappiness" are in, so is inter-racial dating. You just can't tell somebody who to love, plain and simple. Just like you can't tell somebody WHO they ought to be attracted to, for whatever reasons. I'd slap somebody silly if they said that my preference for a brotha that's all chocolatey (mmm mmm mmm) is, uh....wrong.<P>But I have, in my collegiate years, witnessed the "tripping over themselves" to get to a non black sister situation that Nahymsa spoke about. <P>I must say, though, that Brooklyn New York City (.."where they paint murals of Biggie/in cash we trust/cuz this ghetto fabulous life look pretty/what a pity"-t.kweli) is FULL of some blackwomanlovin brothas!! And did I mention that they're all chocalety and FINE?? WHEW HUNNY! So, to each his own, there's too many men out there to be worried about the lost ones! Chile, we'd be hypothesizin' til the cows come home......<P><BR>countrified/everythang I eat is fried/got a southern drawl/I'm so country y'all<BR>-Erykah

  

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78. "About what ya said"
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Interracial dating itself is not the problem, in my eyes but its the dating mixed with the color caste system on top of racial oppression that's causes things to blow up (check my response a little higher up). I don't know who the director of the movie is, his/her ethnic background or politics, but it seems insensitive, careless, and maybe even exploitive to use that cultural event as the backdrop for that particular scene. Do you understand my point? The negative response the Roots received could've easily been predicted and remedied especially if the crowd was more aware that a movie was being filmed and the float was better...all of which Quest said DIDN'T happen. <P><BR>As far as judging couples, that's not the point - shit I'd have to judge my own family. But I can have my opinion, and give my pov about what is going on. I find it funny that cats @ this site judge all the time (what's art, what's good music, how Jayz feels about hip hop culture, how Master P doesn't care about black people because of the music he makes, how unthoughful the crowd was @ the W.I. parade, etc.) but then you tell me not to judge a person based on their actions. People make judgements all the time. <P>

  

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34. "so stupid!!!! why am i so damn stoopid!!!! what was i thinking?"
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Why come half <BR>>assed with insufficient speakers?<P>my point exactly. although you make it sound like i was on some "well, lemme pocket this loot and let's roll with this walkman speaker system" again i had nothing to do with any of this. trust me......next time i'll know.<P><P><P><BR> This <BR>>is BK (where I'm from, I <BR>>go to the parade almost every <BR>>year) you will get dissed.<P>i know this.<BR> <BR>>Perhaps since this is a huge <BR>>event for black people, a little <BR>>bit more time & care to <BR>>your presentation should've been given by <BR>>whoever handles those things for you. <BR>> Most parade participants are practicing <BR>>months in advance and usually non <BR>>west Indian hip hop artist come <BR>>correct with their floats or their <BR>>stands - to make up for <BR>>the fact that they aren't doing <BR>>traditional reggae, soca, or calypso music.<P>again this was for a movie. this wasn't a serious attempt to join the parade. believe you me, it was my only day off and a nigga was tryin to rent some dvds, and pig out on alaskan king crab legs at a bar b que. my people handle my business just fine. the movie company perhaps was handicapped by a low budget or something i don't know......trust me for a non platinum/ non mtv/ non hot 97 group to last this long in the game, you best believe that my "business" is run in tip-top shape. (shadup seattle, i know iknow!!)<BR>><BR>>2) I didn't go to the parade <BR>>this year but my friends & <BR>>family did. Anyone who goes knows <BR>>that it is hard to tell <BR>>whats going on 2 ft away <BR>>from you because of the millions <BR>>of people in attendance. A friend <BR>>of mine got hurt 4 years <BR>>ago & nobody noticed - that <BR>>is why you got booed when <BR>>you stopped, no doubt most of <BR>>the participates weren't aware that <BR>>someone was dead up ahead.<P>scuse me. i saw the news that night. that shit was absoulte chaos. and i'm sorry if you witnessed or didn't witness it......if 5 children were crushed by a van. and another man squeezed to death then motherfuck naivete. the parade should've stopped right then and there. and with the streets all blood red like that there is no way that people couldn't have known. that's downright insensitive. is that the brooklyn way? hope not.<BR> <BR>>I've been @ the parade when <BR>>people were shot & nobody know <BR>>til we got home. Please <BR>>don't act like the attendees were <BR>>unfeeling savages..that is not the case.<P>i won't go that far......but i'm gonna call a spade a spade.<P> <BR>><BR>>3) Why are y'all gonna come up <BR>>in the West Indian parade - <BR>>essentially the biggest black assembly in <BR>>NYC and slob all over a <BR>>white girl with the most beautiful <BR>>black women from damn near every <BR>>part of the world watching?<P>because that's what the script called for. plain and simple. yeah it was a tad uncomfortable but such is life......i know you ain't tryin to start shit right?<P><P> <BR>>Common sense tells you that that <BR>>ones not going to fly. I <BR>>mean come on!!<P>actually he didn't. he saw the paycheck and was like "can i borrow a dollar?"<P><P> <BR>>4) Do y'all dance to your own <BR>>music? <P>-sure. if it has a pulse........<P><P> Really, I love the <BR>>Roots material <P>.....as i can clearly see......<P><P>but most of it <BR>>will not work @ a parade <BR>>that glorifies celebration & DANCING!!!<P>i know. trust me. i know<P> <BR>>Had Wyclef (who I can't stand) <BR>>been there he would've done his <BR>>material that suited the occasion. <BR>>Sounds like the Roots weren't prepared <BR>>@ all for the parade then <BR>>y'all wonder why people aren't feeling <BR>>you.<P>ureaka!!!!!!!!<P><P> Now you've left a negative <BR>>impression including the vibe that you <BR>>don't respect your own by not <BR>>being ready for one of their <BR>>biggest celebrations.<P>yep. fuck black people!!! you pulled me out the closet. i'd do a drive by from bari to bedstuy. congrats you pulled the sheet off me. fuck niggas and black people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how'd you do it so easily? i mean for the mere fact i do hip-hop should of been clue enough to let y'all know how much i hate my own.....you're good. real good.<P><BR> The Roots are a <BR>>great group<P>okay. joke time is over.<P><BR> but sometimes I wonder <BR>>what y'all (or maybe it management) <BR>>be thinking. <P>i don't know, but you really gonna flip when you see me in blackface in spike lee's "bamboozeled"........we'll see how much y'all love me then......<P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"<P>"fuck the world, don't ask me for shit!!!!!!...."<BR>-meth and some guy from bk

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organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
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Starang

Wed Sep-08-99 02:01 PM

  
35. "I got a quick question"
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Maybe I missed it somewhere, but what exactly is the movie about? well, maybe you can't tell me exactly what it's about, but how about a quick synopsis of the plot? just to give us an idea of what y'all are doin'. I mean, I'm sure it's gonna be dope (haha, I love jockin', it's so much fun sometimes), but I ain't heard nothin' bout it really 'cept the name. Clue me in man. <P>Peace to man, woman, and badgers.<BR>Starang<P>"Blah, blah, fuck you I'm tired" - me, after trying to think of a quote for today.<P>"Son, are you retarded?" - my dad, all the time

  

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38. "Now see I didn't say that"
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I said unprepared<P>>Why come half <BR>>>assed with insufficient speakers?<P>>my point exactly. although you make it <BR>>sound like i was on some "well, lemme pocket this loot and let's roll with this walkman speaker <BR>>system" <P>ummm....actually, my words don't say anything like that @ all & its simply wrong to imply that they did or that that was my intent.<P>><BR>>again this was for a movie. this wasn't a serious >attempt to join the parade. <P>perhaps that was part of the problem.<P>>my people handle my business just fine. the movie >>company perhaps was handicapped by a low budget >or something i don't know......trust me for a non >platinum/ non mtv/ non hot 97 group to last this >long in the game, you best believe that my >"business" is run in tip-top shape. (shadup >seattle, i know iknow!!)<P>your point? somebody failed to provide an adequate sound system in a parade the requires one & since you guys were on the float & visible party, it's YOU that looks bad...your fault or not, fair or not. <P>>scuse me. i saw the news that night. that shit >was absoulte chaos. <P>the parade always tends to be chaotic...its a carnival on eastern parkway! The parade travels all the way from the museum downtown BK to past Nostrand ave and is HUGE (hundreds of thousands dancing in the streets & sidewalks...you can barely walk). From the reports I'm hearing, most people in the parade didn't know know someone had died (how are people on nostrand are going to know that someone on Washington ave passed away (or vice versa)? I'm not even sure if the parade organizers or everyone on the float teh children were part of knew that they had passed. The man was killed after the parade was over (8pm). I've participated before & my friends son played steel pan during this parade & he did not know that children had died where he'd walked over 2 hours later. My guess is that the kids were hit, rushed to away for medical assistance & not knowing the extend of their injuries, the parade continued. Please tell me how the entire parade route could've been shut down without extreme police interference? Given the nature of the communities relationship with the police and the fact that most of the hundreds of thousands would be unaware of why they were being dispersed, how it wouldn't have gotten uglier than it already had?<P>>Please don't act like the attendees were >unfeeling savages..that is not the case.<P>>i won't go that far......but i'm gonna <BR>>call a spade a spade. <P>I impression I got was that you made a negatively assumption about the crowd and made blanket character judgements. Many of my friends/fam were @ that parade & they are neither insensitive or naive...they simply didn't know. <P>>(re scene with the white chick) because that's >what the script called for. plain and simple. >yeah it was a tad uncomfortable but such is >life......i know you ain't tryin to <BR>>start shit right? <P>Nah...were you? I simply pointed out that the negative reaction could've been anticipated and handled accordingly.<P>> Really, I love the Roots material <P>>.....as i can clearly see...... <P>what..my dollars ain't enough?<BR> <BR>> Now you've left a negative impression including the vibe that you don't respect your own by not being ready for one of their biggest celebrations.<P>>yep. fuck black people!!! you pulled me out the closet. i'd do a drive by from bari to bedstuy. congrats you pulled the sheet off me. fuck niggas and black people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how'd you do it so easily?<P>LOLOLOLOL...issues galore. ummm...you said that, I sure didn't <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> Some people caught the fire hoses & the billy clubs but still use terms like good & bad hair...so what you saying? Let's not go there. I said being unprepared for that type of event leaves a negative impression, including the idea that you don't care...period. Maybe I should've thrown a maybe in there. You asked about attracting a larger black audience. Well, most people @ the parade are black (from all over including non-west indians). It seems like the perfect marketing opportunity to me...especially since you were there to work & not to participate out of some kind of interest anyway. I bought 2 DLG albums on the strength of seeing them @ the PR parade 3 years ago...and I don't even speak spanish!!!

  

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toy

Thu Sep-09-99 04:09 AM

  
40. "Uh uh......................"
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<BR>...if 5 children were crushed by a van. and another man squeezed to death then motherfuck naivete. the parade should've stopped right then and there. and with the streets all blood red like that there is no way that people couldn't have known. that's downright insensitive. is that the brooklyn way? hope not.<P>No, it's not the Brooklyn way. Watch it! You're being a tad bit unfair by presupposing that there is "no way" that people could not have known. I mentioned before that my boyfriend and I were just a few blocks away when the tragedy occurred, and we were none the wiser. Not because we're "insensitive" or showed disregard, but because we honestly were unaware of what happened. We didn't see the blood red streets. The only screams we heard were, "Raise ya flag up!" We also didn't have the vantage point that you had, since you were up on a float. We watched the news that night, too. I agree with you, the parade should have been stopped. Innocent lives were lost. I'm not down for partying during someone else's tragedy (actually OUR tragedy, as folk). But you're reeeeeeallly takin' it there with the "is that the Brooklyn way?" comment. It's unfair. I was there. I live in Brooklyn. I organize in Brooklyn. And I just didn't know that children were dying. I'm certain that there were others like me, who, had they known what the f**ck was happening would've acted accordingly, SENSITIVELY and respectfully. Peace.<P><P>countrified/everythang I eat is fried/got a southern drawl/I'm so country y'all<BR>-Erykah

  

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41. "Clarity"
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Bold emphasis are mine: <P>First:<P>but hold up what's this?.......5 people got ran over by the mack truck AHEAD of us?.........A CHILD WAS MURDERED?........oh god please tell me that spilled hawaian punch over there..........THE GROUND LOOKS LIKE SPILLED JELLY on the streets.....I'M ON THE VERGE OF THROWING UP.....i stop the group outta respect for the dead....now mofo's is booin!!!!!........what the--....WHY AREN'T THEY MOURNING.......NO SENSITIVITY.....i threaten to jump ship....this was only block 4 and 1 hour done past......NOW THE DIRECTOR WANTS TO SHOOT THIS LOVE SCENE........problem is we are on shakey ground as it is......and now this is gonna<BR>go over the top.........without giving the plot away tariq's love intrest is this jennifer love hewitt type jawn (minus the breasts)....now black women are upset...."who's this white bitch?" looks are coming from all angles.....even rev al sharpton is giving us looks......WE SHOT THIS EMBRACE/KISS SCENE LIKE 6 TIMES....now i'm<BR>infomed that we have to play in front of a commitee of judges who if they give thumbs down it's curtains and bottles......RIGHT THEN AND THERE I QUIT....<P>THEN:<P>...if 5 children were crushed by a van. and another man squeezed to death then motherfuck naivete. THE PARADE SHOULD'VE STOPPED RIGHT THEN AND THERE. and with the streets all blood red like that there is no way that people couldn't have known. that's downright insensitive. <P>"For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again" - St. Matthew 7:2<P>and i ain't even christian<P><BR>

  

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49. "YOU weren't there!!"
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>"For with what judgement ye judge, ye <BR>>shall be judged and with what <BR>>measure ye mete, it shall be <BR>>measured to you again" - St. <BR>>Matthew 7:2 <BR>>and i ain't even christian <BR>><BR> I ain't christian and could care less about that statement yo!! You know what's fucked up about the parade??? Fucked up shit happens damn near every year!! That's why this was my first parade in 4/5 years!! I live 2 blocks away and I would usually go outta state to get away from the madness!! People were fucked up as usuall!! Motherfuckers were runnin' into the damn streets when big ass floats were trying to get thru and that kept slowing down shiet!! Almost saw a couple of people get hit by a big ass truck AFTER the children were hit and killed by the earlier truck ( The driver was speeding up to catch up with his float and people were so fuckin' stoopid, just runnin' into the middle of the street and not even lookin' at what was behind them...IT'S A FUCKING CARNIVAL WITH BIG ASS TRUCKS DRIVIN' THUR YA STUPID DUMB IGNANT ASSES!!) Almost had to bus a few heads in the grill for being stoopid!! That's why I won't be back for next years west indian (where is the "west indies*" any way!?) day parade!! FUCK THE BULLSHEIT!!<P>Re Alief<P>* I know where the so called "west Indies" is, why do people perpetrate columbus' ignorance AND stupidity yo??

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42. "hahahaha"
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<BR>>>Common sense tells you that that <BR>>>ones not going to fly. I <BR>>>mean come on!!<P>>actually he didn't. he saw the paycheck <BR>>and was like "can i borrow <BR>>a dollar?" <BR>><P>> Now you've left a negative <BR>>>impression including the vibe that you <BR>>>don't respect your own by not <BR>>>being ready for one of their <BR>>>biggest celebrations.<P>>yep. fuck black people!!! you pulled me <BR>>out the closet. i'd do a <BR>>drive by from bari to bedstuy. <BR>>congrats you pulled the sheet off <BR>>me. fuck niggas and black people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <BR>>how'd you do it so easily? <BR>>i mean for the mere fact <BR>>i do hip-hop should of been <BR>>clue enough to let y'all know <BR>>how much i hate my own.....you're <BR>>good. real good. <P><BR>Props for a funny but serious response. Had that been the klangmaster himself (or maybe dix) all hell wouldve broken loose. Nahymsa (hope I spelled it right) you really came off kinda wrong, and a little angry to me, possibly at something that may not even have to do with this site. The people Ive met within this organization (if thats what you wanna call it) have been cool as hell, and if it wasnt for them you would have nowhere to air your griefs. But your opinions are yours, and Ive learned to respect other peoples opinions whether I agree or not. <P>>i don't know, but you really gonna <BR>>flip when you see me in <BR>>blackface in spike lee's "bamboozeled"........we'll see <BR>>how much y'all love me then...... <P>This isnt serious is it?

  

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36. "Question..."
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<BR>>Had Wyclef (who I can't stand) <BR>>been there he would've done his <BR>>material that suited the occasion.<P>What's wrong with Wyclef?(Just curious)<P>Of course he would have come with his material that is Caribbean-tinged....its part of his sound--he had 2 songs in Kreyol on his album. To expect The Roots to do the same (especially when they weren't really trying to be a part of the parade(did y'all actually think you could shoot like that in peace?)) isn't being true to their form, and I think it'd be more patronizing than anything. And honestly, I doubt the crowd would have even felt them had they prepared a Caribbean repetoire, being that we were all expecting acts from our native countries--including myself (though ?uest on that Afro-Cuban tip @ the Bowery Show was memorable)<P>>Now you've left a negative <BR>>impression including the vibe that you <BR>>don't respect your own by not <BR>>being ready for one of their <BR>>biggest celebrations. <P>I didn't feel that way at all. I was more insulted by the politicians coming out just this once to make sure that they have our vote come election time (hmm..I never saw them on Eastern Parkway BEFORE!). I was happy to see that our own even came out--only other hip hop artist sighting I saw was Peter Gunz.<P><BR>LoL...and all I wanted to know was what's wrong with Wyclef. (Haitians Represent!!!)<P>"Peanut Butter Capn Crunch is the best"--me<P>"That is THE WORST cereal of all.....taste like finger paint and lotioned breast nipples together!"--Mr. 1989<P>"Damn, now I wanna bake a pound cake"--the fifth<P>"Yo, If you can make that, I'll suck your toes!!"--NazDak<P>"Why are all my quotes food related?"--me<BR>Peace and Love <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">

  

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39. "you haitian?? my pops is Antiguan :-)"
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I wouldn't have considered it patronizing if I was up @ the parade & saw the Roots with a couple of pan players doing their thing...that ish would've made my day & probably put caught the attention of a lot of people who didn't know who they were. I definetly wouldn't expect them to go all out with calypso or soca but I thought being a live band would give them flexibility.<P>We already know that most of the politicians are assholes..you will see Sharpton on the parkway though. Usually there are a bunch of hip hop artists @ the parade, in the crowd like everybody else if they don't have floats. <P>I just don't like Wyclef....I can't really put my finger on it, he's just so annoying. Him, Pras & Bruk up. <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P><BR>

  

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33. "What y'all should have done..."
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Ok, so the system is shitty, they are trying to film this for a movie..<BR>none of you got briefed (i am assuming) on what was going on..basically you're skrewed at this point...so f*ck 'em all, that's what I say. Y'all should have just pretended to play whatever was jumpin' around (yaknow ?uest, when you do you solo and you break it down to silence) had riq dancin' around, moving his lips with no sounds and lookin all happy. <BR>(although, i don't think the director would have let it be that way). People in the crowd wouldn't have known what to think...big cheeze ass grins would<BR>have been a nice addition too...sounds like you were all pissed...rightfully so... <P>so laugh at 'em all...that's what I say(kyle picturing a float with silence, the roots jammin, having a blast, no music, just smiling.Me, myself, cracking up in the crowd admiring <BR>how crazy y'all are...)<BR>anyways...it will be awwwright. the true believers know what happened<P>peace..<BR>Kyle<P>"?uestlove for President...2000"-me

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kiOn

Wed Sep-08-99 02:58 PM

  
37. "NEWS ABOUT THE ACCIDENT!!"
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This is very grussome and disturbing so if you have a week stomach do not read on.<P>I'm sorry to be the one bring the bad news but here goes ,Ok a friend of mine went to the parade and saw what happened in the accident this is what she told me. Apparently an 11 year old boy ran out into traffic. He did not see the truck coming and was hit by the truck and squashed(lack of better word) between the truck in front of him and behind. The sad fact is that the truck driver kept driving and did not check to see what happened and people kept on dancing. This is a sick world we live in. We gotta make a difference.~peace and love?~<P><BR> kion

  

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Iyara

Thu Sep-09-99 02:20 PM

  
43. "Im Afrikkan. . .and Moved"
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What is going on in here? What happened!!???Where is all the love? ?uest did a baby really DIE!!???? I hope that is just a creative story. . . it is isn't it? A lot of black people aren't open minded, admittedly, we don't read books, and we've been lured into believing that money is our salvation, but of course that is not true. I hope that the ROOTS continue to stay positive. PLEASE don't start using your gift and talent to promote the rat race. You know the "Quest" for "ice" and armani...Money won't save us

  

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45. "whats up with the negative characterizations of black people?"
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We are no more seduced by money or greed than any other group - if fact we learn that from the best. And we don't read any less either proportionate to class & education...meaning poorer you are & harder you work the less time & incentive there is to read - we tend to be poorer & hard working therefore.....

  

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44. "mc's and west indies"
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?, I feel the frustration and my heart goes out to you. I know that must have been rough.<P>I have a question related to you statement about 'riq's lack of audience perception.<P>Why is it that hip-hop artists go to W.I. events and continually get clowned?<BR>I think of Biggie getting booed off the stage at (I think it was) Sunsplash for not being dressed appropriately, and lately DMX being arrested for cursing and now you being surprised at the reception to a weak presentation.<P>Don't fools know that folks from the W.I. demand that you come correct? My roommate from college is Jamaican and he used to let me know about how they did not play when it comes to their events. It is a party, but it is also a huge cultural celebration and if you don't bring the noise, they will let you know.<P>I guess I'm surprised that you were surprised. That should have been a huge day for you guys and with or without the fatality drama you seemed remarkably unprepared. Finally a stage with hundreds of thousands waiting to be rocked.<BR>I'm feelin' both sadness about the tragedy and disappointment about the opportunity lost.<P>only love intended,<BR>bc<P>"I draw a crowd like an architect"-Rakim

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46. "wow! finaly some constructive criticism up in this piece.........."
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>?, I feel the frustration and my <BR>>heart goes out to you. I <BR>>know that must have been rough. <P><BR>true. thanks. it was.<P><BR>>I have a question related to you <BR>>statement about 'riq's lack of audience <BR>>perception. <BR>>Why is it that hip-hop artists go <BR>>to W.I. events and continually get <BR>>clowned? I think of Biggie getting <BR>>booed off the stage at (I <BR>>think it was) Sunsplash for not <BR>>being dressed appropriately, and lately DMX <BR>>being arrested for cursing and now <BR>>you being surprised at the reception <BR>>to a weak presentation. <BR>>Don't fools know that folks from the <BR>>W.I. demand that you come correct?<P><P>i feel you and all.....and know this...i will never ever set foot on stage without having my shit together. plain and simple. sure, there have been times when "riq" tones down his performance if sick or sometimes in an element that he's uncomfortable. but i can assure you that we've nerver given less than 95%.<P>i just think that as time rolls by in this age of "fast food music", mofo's don't really care about "new artists" or "new ideas". now i think we are sorta skating sround the issue, and walkin' on eggshells just answer me this......<P>why is that at maxwell's show the audience gave him energy on the songs that had videos to them?<P>why is that most folk (who don't care that much for music) declare VOODOO a horrible record. ON THE CORNER miles' worst record. and never felt JIMI HENDRIX. or slum as "boring"? or choose ADORE (prince) over THE BALLAD OF DORTHY PARKER?<P>how come you won't hear me'shell, lenny, and macy on black radio?<P>how would the fresh fest be embraced by "the community" yet 15 years la......<P>hang on...we've had this conversation before, im about to make a whole slew of enemies here but i can't hold back. we could have the talent of michael jackson, sly stone, and prince and i feel as though black people would still not know the difference. as long as we allow the media to dictate what is hip and what is not.....there is always gonna be a problem.......<P>y'all think eyrkah got everyone open on talent?<P>nope. a pop song (and yes "on and on" is pop). quirky video. strong image. after all that, then y'all feel the songs........"next lifetime" or "otherside of the game" were singles as well, but they did nann on the charts. the hoopla about "tyrone" was more about shock and surprise. i can't count the times that a person comes to me and was like "i didn't know she cursed" or "was so down to earth"<P>the key to lauryn's success was a pop song.<P>sorry y'all, but l winning the grammy album of the year wasn't the same if ultra won for "critical beatdown". people are like "hip-hop is getting its due..." i think the opposite. hip-hop had to "dilute" itself in order for the medicine to go down easier. "doo wop" is chorus heavy, and there is tons of singing on it. thus easier for radio to play it. but then again radio jumped on it already because she was a star already from an album that was "pop" as fuck.(the score was "pop" out the ass) "killing me softly" got people to "accept" her. don't believe me? see what happens if she released primo produced "the final hour". (p.s. again, i'm tellin the truth......davina, esthero, and me'shell have all realesed excellent records that radio has ignored, thus once that happens your life span is done. mofo's ain't got time and patience to see if your goo--fuck that! mofo's don't know how to think for themselves to know if shit is dope or not.<P>i could go on and on. is it a wonder that gang starr goes gold finally after getting with k-ci and jojo? thus giving them a red carpet to radio?<BR>this is what will save your ass in "the community"<P>1. hardness. hardcore as fuck. vicarious fantasy for whiteboys, and bourgious (sic) blacks. sexual taboo fantasy for whitegirls and sisters. press play and come to the ghetto: nwa. tupac. biggie. dmx. nore, downsouth rappers. and the like.<P>2.clown prince element. the funny guy. the wild guy. lots of energy. craaaazy!!!! busta, redman, odb,eminem, etc.<P>3. pop dude. take 'em home to meet mom and dad. bring 'em to show and tell. play em at your 5th grade halloween party: will smith, lauryn, mase,<BR>wyclef, etc.<P>4. sex sex sex...nuff said- artist who you wanna: fuck, marry, hug up on, you tend to like 'em reguardless of talent: meth, tip, kim, fox, etc..<P>5. the hit single..."yeah that's my song" the only umbrella that all artists can hide under. "deja vu (uptown baby)" "you got me" "no pigeons" "all i know" "broken english" "danger!".......here today? gone today!!!!!!<P>6. and the newest category. racemania!!!!! the media fever with artists based on race first and foremost. kid rock, limp bis, korn (groups that have existed for 10 years and more, that have blown up now that mtv decides that they want the elvis syndrome to run things in 2000), and it's not just white people. latin fever (thank god radio paid attention to beatnuts)--how long will it last?....................<P>to make it? you gotta use some of this shit. even true artists fall under.<P>mos def- 2,4 definition on hot 97, and mtv host exposure could get people open on him.<P>common-4. maybe 5 if it's the right song.<P>black thought- 4, 5, and maybe after the movie he will put a "bishop" type spell on folks so maybe 1 can come into play.<P>rahzel- 2, and maybe 5 if he comes with some radio stuff. plus he's under the empty 7 catagory (novelty- sure beatboxing's an art.....but that's his "trick" to take people's minds of off the subject matter. sheeeit scratch told me it was this element that saved everyone's ass in seattle.<P>i could go on,but the point is this.....unless we are willing to get sexy for y'all.....or hardcore......or go straight pop....(i do think i'm funny sometimes) ain't no gettin people open anytime soon. and yeah we fall under 7 too.. (the band) but unless we get deprogrammed to know and see art.....then....-i mean in the 3rd grade homework assignment was go and purchase "my favorite things" by coltraine. and yeah i hated it at first. but i was taught to appreciate that shit....("i don't wanna hear this!! put "boogie nights" on!!!!!!) now there is no art appreciation in school at all. (rent and study "mr. hollands opus") so as long as i rebel against what's familiar it will be a long journey. look, i'm sure big and dmx did the same shows for motherfuckers who felt them.....but it's like if a nigga eats cap'n crunch.....you think he's gonna be all happy when you say..."yo that shit ain't good for you.....eat this bran flakes shit. this is good for you."<P>the truth shall set us free.......<P><BR>>My roommate from college is Jamaican <BR>>and he used to let me <BR>>know about how they did not <BR>>play when it comes to their <BR>>events. It is a party, but <BR>>it is also a huge cultural <BR>>celebration and if you don't bring <BR>>the noise, they will let you <BR>>know. <BR>>I guess I'm surprised that you were <BR>>surprised. That should have been a <BR>>huge day for you guys and <BR>>with or without the fatality drama <BR>>you seemed remarkably unprepared. Finally a <BR>>stage with hundreds of thousands waiting <BR>>to be rocked. I'm feelin' both <BR>>sadness about the tragedy and disappointment <BR>>about the opportunity lost. <BR>>only love intended, bc <BR>>"I draw a crowd like an architect"-Rakim <BR>><P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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47. "diggity damn ?uestlove!!!"
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I am just going to say "Thanks"..<P>you drop science like my damn proffessors last hou <P>and thanks for pickin' up a show back around D'town!!<P>much love and respect...<P>Kyle<P>"don't ever water your shit down...especially kool-aid"!!?!?!?

much love,
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52. "Science...no doubt..."
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But there has got to be a way to break the cycle. The 7 reasons you listed are what give you paid but the shit that the Roots do is what makes you legends. The Roots only misfortune is being born during a time period that corporations run the airwaves and thus the minds of the millions. We have to fight our own battles...and I know I can't just be saying "Fuck It" when it comes to your money...but "Fuck IT!!!" <P>For every show the Roots throw...a new head sees the light. Then...maybe...those heads will start taking action so that the next Laurnea...the next Adriana Evans...the nest Davina...doesn't get smoked like a Salem.<P>The Bold Ass DVSJ

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53. "oh i forgot category 8....."
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the misfit/artist/for art's sake...<P>......god it's lonley in here.<P><P><P><P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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54. "the ? that roared"
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thanks for the reply.<BR>I really feel you talking about the seven deadly venoms of success there.<BR>I agree that you will have to take the long road because your belief in the band concept for making music will probably have you on the outside looking in for a while.<P>I think the decrease in music education in primary schools has quietly helped kill true appreciation for music. Of course our two-second memories dont help either. People don't try to get exposed to much music so they get spoon fed.<P>As a music lover I also struggle with the media exposure puzzle though. Is it on the radio/in Vibe/etc. because it's good or is it "good" because it's in the media? Unfortunately the latter is most often true.<P>Getting to the true gems takes digging which most often takes time and work that many don't really want to put in because the love of music isn't there. I look at discussions of rhythm patterns and chord changes and it makes me go, damn! I have the barest memory of this and I played instruments. A lot of these folks now ain't getting even the minimum.<P>What's the answer? I hate the keep on keepin' on response but short of going pirate radio I don't know. (Of course the FCC is clampin' down on that isht, so that's out anyway). College radio is an outlet but it's hard to get folks to get off the station they see on billboards. I just try to hit those little Riley Escobar's out there with Giant Steps or Abraxas or DYWM?!!!??! and let them know there's more than there pop radio out there.<P>I know there will always be a underappreciated art but you just hope the pendulum will swing further back to allow more voices.<P>bc<P>PS Re_Alief thanks for the clarification<P>PPS. ?, speaking of Abraxas, do you think Carlos is pushing the boundaries or falling into category 3 with his last LP?<P>"I draw a crowd like an architect"-Rakim

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bc

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Are you ready to design your fate?" -Kelvin Mercer

  

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55. "santana's formula is....................."
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<BR>>PPS. ?, speaking of Abraxas, do you <BR>>think Carlos is pushing the boundaries <BR>>or falling into category 3 with <BR>>his last LP? <BR>>"I draw a crowd like an architect"-Rakim <P>the formula for santana is a weird one......<P>firstly he has the 5th element. smoove is all over the radio and video.<P>then there's different chapters to fall under in the 8 steps to success.<P>under the the 3rd one (although i don't think parents will dig his ok for the creative use of ex) but after you can survive the "basic training" of the 8 steps.....you can have the badge of the 9th step...........THE LEDGENDARY status. because of his veteran status (survived using the 8th card) he's untouchable. former a&r (now arista president clive davis) signed carlos to columbia in the late 60's.......so thus he knows the magic that comes from carlos. i'm sure they were expecting to do modest sales but they forgot (and milked) the most important factor..........<P>NEPETISM......(the 0 factor, right before hardcore) this is the best position to be in. means you will get the same perks that said person who puts you on gets......or at least half the audience. in this case carlos has been the siamese twin to dave matthews (3,4,5,6,8) which means that every night carlos gets exposed to a new audience (stadium full) who will then grab his shit......shieeet it worked for us those two weeks.......and dave knew it. someone asked if l boogie would sing "you got me" with us......at first i was like 'pleeeeeeeeeeease "headliners" don't do that nowadays' no one is that "nice" (even i decided against going out onstage to play with macy simply because i didn't want her drop dead gorgeous percussionist melana to show me up!lol) but dave knew that in the world of music sometimes you gotta fill your tank up with more gas. everynight he went out and told people (or empty stadium) to "give us a shot" and "we are cool". he knows his power......and if he says something is dope, then his audience will want to be included in on the fun too. i must say, out of all the "out of place" shows we've done (they might be giants, beck, 311, 10,000 maniacs, eyrkah, chico) dave was the smoothest. cause there's two reasons why a headliner gets an opening act 1. to make him look good (if they are wack) 2. to make 'em look good (if they have prestige). dave benifits the most from this because a) he becomes a hero for associating himself with a ledgend and giving him a hand (see bonnie raitt, and prince, and mtv award era kid rock.....) b) by having a prestige artist open for him (us) it just makes his taste seem that much better (see beastie boys who gave great exposure to: lushious jackson, jon spencer blues explosion, company flow, butter 08, and cibo matto) see the cycle?......now mixed with the most powerful hand in the industry (davis), a pop song (smooth) sung by an established artist (that guy rob is in matchbox 20 right?).....it was a no brainer.....not to mention the rest of his record does the same thing again and again.......so there's the formula.....of course he's not cutting edge like the early 70's, but carlos is a beautiful cat, and he still can give a hell of a show, and solo his ass off......so there it is...<P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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64. "Carlos can only be Santana?"
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I feel you on the Santana analysis. My man asked me about the record and the most articulate response I could give was "It's a Santana record" for good and for ill. He's an incredibly talented instrumentalist and sometimes it's hard to know (from the untrained eye) if he's coasting. I felt the energy he brings (I think that's his biggest talent right there and it's better live) but some of the collaborations weren't that fiya (or is "that fi" I get my gratuitous southern slang wrong sometimes, lol) I actually thought everlast gave an interesting contribution. It made me want to check him out which is good.<P>Meshell really is in hell by the way. She's one of the black artists that is further away from reaching her homefolks that you guys. Sorry.<BR>My only hope is that when someone like Mary delves into some emotional territory that others will become open enough that a song like Bitter or Loyalty can sneak in. I doubt it though. Actually, Mary's LP is my new litmus test about the state of folks minds. Are the folks that got hit with What's the 411 grown up enough and ready to handle where she is now? Can she reach (and broaden) her market without a bonified, Flex-approved tunnel-banger remix? That said, why can't I wait for her to ROCK The Love I Never Had live. Any band with a pulse should rip up a show with that without exposing her vocal er . . deficiencies. <P>By the way, is Erykah feelin' the pressure yet? After Voodoo (my current standard for artistic growth and I ain't even heard it yet) and Mary she'd better be on point. There's lots of Macy Grays/Angie Stones/Greniques out there now. Her media niche has been fucking overrun. It feels like after Brown Sugar when all those clones hit. Chico Debarge is ok (maybe?), but Kedar played that market and him with it. It made me damn glad D' stayed in the lab. I think she needs a Midnight Marauders to set her position straight or I could see her falling a step from the media graces. Afterwards she can lose focus and drop her Beats, Rhymes and Life.<P>as usual,<BR>only love intended,<BR>bc<P>"I draw a crowd like an architect"-Rakim

respect,
bc

"my old boy from the Point but I'm from Southwest..."

"Are you really ready to carry some weight?,
Are you ready to design your fate?" -Kelvin Mercer

  

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toy

Tue Sep-14-99 08:31 AM

  
68. "ME'SHELL HELL"
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I feel like it's high school again, and there's this oligarchy controlling what's "cool" and "in" and what's not. I mean, people looked at Erykah like she was from outer space when she first came out, and now, millions of records later, folk act like she invented the head wrap. Folk all of a sudden LIKE nappy hair. Mmm hmm. Yeah, right. All of a sudden, brothas gotta follow me down the street, sayin', "Go'on witcho Erykah Badu lookin self". <P>I think black folk follow trends AND each other a bit too closely for us to have any real integrity when it comes to supporting our own. As long as it's "cool" (meaning, white folks are bitin' it) then we're down. As soon as it's a little "edgy" "eccentric" or, god forbid, "Conscious" we don't wanna hear that shit no more. Then there's the few of us who, like in high school, say, "fuck all y'all" and go in search of the real. But then our own people look at us like, "where'd you come from"? <P>Guess that's why ya call it Me'shell hell, right?<P>But I'on care........I survived high school.....<P>-"misfit"

  

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REALity

Sun Sep-19-99 01:46 PM

  
81. "BEATS RHYMES AND LIFE WAS EXCELLENT"
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You obvious believed the media hype when you referred to B,R, and L as a dropoff album. I really don't feel like explaining for the unmteenth (sic) time why it is such a great album. Just wanted to make a point. <P><BR>"Fuck this rap shit, I listen to Classical" -Jaydee

  

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84. "NO IT WAS NOT!!!!!"
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BRL was cool and all, but if you are willing to be brutally honest with yourself and the world (like me) you would admit that Tribe MILKED jaydee for BRL and Love Movement. I don't even KNOW jaydee and as a music fan feel I like this. Do your homework. Jaydee was laying down all types of ill shit before he hooked up with TCQ (examples for the lost: It's Going Down - Mad Skillz<BR>Drop - Pharcyde<BR>Remix for One Little Indian (of which I have the instrumental on vinyl and used it for VARIOUS freestyle sessions).<BR>Listen to Midnight Marauders (the LAST GREAT TCQ joint in my opinion) and BRL side by side. Hell, compare certain tracks on BRL such as 1nce Again (Produced by Jaydee) and What Really Goes On (Produced by Ali Shaheed). If Midnight Marauders was so tight (not just in my opinion, but hailed by many as a classic), why switch up so far off the creative base you're on?<BR>And do I need even discuss that Vivrant shit?<BR>While you're at it, check out the 1st track on Eric Benet's new album, "That's Just My Way" (when you hear it fill in the blanks that follow) PRODUCED BY_______________SOUNDS LIKE_____________PRODUCED IT....<P><BR>gB<BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>...there are many players that hate the fact that we do this for the love... - Talib Kweli<P>I listen with stylistic innocence as well as critical intelligence; I identify genres but ignore their limits... - Joshua Redman<P>Invest NO level of self into this system of PAGANomics... - BIG RUBE<P>Imsohardisoftenviagra... - $(#&%@^!*

  

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65. "9th badge - The Legendary"
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damn, how could I miss this.<BR>Speaking on that Legendary level, is there anyone out there milking that right about now better that Aretha Franklin? I'm listening to Mary's LP and up comes Don't Waste Your Time. Whether it becomes a "Rose is Still a Rose" or not, is she not schooling these younger sisters on how to make a lifelong career?<BR>Aretha gets to stay in the public eye, Pepsi commercials included, and maintain. Beautifully self sufficient, earned on the bedrock of groundbreaking work done 30 years ago. It's like its doesn't matter how good it is cause she's "ARETHA FRANKLIN, LEGEND"<P>bc<P>"I draw a crowd like an architect"-Rakim

respect,
bc

"my old boy from the Point but I'm from Southwest..."

"Are you really ready to carry some weight?,
Are you ready to design your fate?" -Kelvin Mercer

  

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toy

Mon Sep-13-99 08:57 AM

  
61. "there's a fine line, isn't there??"
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>the misfit/artist/for art's sake... <BR>>......god it's lonley in here. <BR>><BR>Category 8: Didn't people like Erykah and Lauryn start off in that category? What happened? For example, last week's Village Voice ran an article about Hip Hop Activism, and there was a lot of criticism about Lauryn Hill's Refugee Project, a lot of MC's (anonymous of course, cuz don't nobody get quoted sayin' nuthin' bad about Lauryn!) felt like the Project wasn't really effective because its offices are based in SoHo, and it's sponsored in part by Armani, not to mention the lack of an "agenda"............<BR>So my ?uestion for brother ?uest is this: How can one "blow up" without going pop? How can one be magnanamously famous, and still be effective in the "community"? <BR>Peace&Blessings........<P><BR>countrified/everythang I eat is fried/got a southern drawl/I'm so country y'all<BR>-Erykah

  

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63. "the answer"
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<BR>>Category 8: Didn't people like Erykah and Lauryn start off in that category?<P><BR>no. i told you what propelled them to startdom and what kept them from living in meshell's pit of hell.<P><P><BR> What happened?<P>read my posts again.........<P> For example, last week's Village Voice ran an article about Hip Hop Activism, and there was a lot of criticism about Lauryn Hill's Refugee Project, a lot of MC's (anonymous of course, cuz don't nobody get quoted sayin' nuthin' bad about Lauryn!) felt like the Project wasn't really effective because its offices are based in SoHo, and it's sponsored in part by Armani, not to mention the lack of an "agenda"............<BR>>So my ?uestion for brother ?uest is this: How can one "blow up" without going pop? How can one be magnanamously famous, and still be effective in the "community"?<P><P>read my post again. all the answers are there. lauryn can open up a scillion summer camps......but god forbid if she dosn't have a <BR>>Peace&Blessings........<P>> countrified/everythang I eat is fried/got a <BR>>southern drawl/I'm so country y'all -Erykah <BR>><P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Beyonder

Tue Sep-14-99 06:47 AM

  
67. "the artist"
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so where does the artist fit into this whole deal? he's releasing his new one on clive davis's arista records same as santana. does he open up another chamber with his style of recording and releasing and playing? or is he just playing arista for his needs(ie:distribution)

  

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qoolquest
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69. "prince......."
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>so where does the artist fit into <BR>>this whole deal? <P>4-sex. women love him. controversy sells. is he straight or gay? keep em guessing and keep quiet.<P>5- hit singles. nuff said<P><BR>7-novelty. one man band. plays 30 instruments. next stevie!!!<P>8-artist. true artist. produces. sings. write. performs his ass off.<P>9-ledgend. has been performing since 1978. 21 years. in 4 years he will be god status.<P>of course clive gets the glory if he can "bring him back"<P><P><P><P>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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bc
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70. "so then, another question,?"
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I know career longevity and economic survival are both goals. Is it better, given (only for my purposes)two paths, to be brilliant early and establish your own chamber that others visit ala the Artist or Carlos or Aretha, or to build a body of work like some who issue vital product late into life ala a Shirley Horn or Joe Henderson.<P>It feels like the money flows more quickly to the first group but only a few talented souls can sustain the audience's interest beyond the "here today, gone today" level.<P>This second, larger, group may not be household names outside of music lovers and they may have to tour continually, going overseas quite a bit, etc. But they still get to make music and a living. I don't know how they're living so that is a point I would concede given contrary evidence. Many also deal with artistic droughts but on it's face it seems a way to accomplish several goals. Prospering and making music doing it.<P>thanks for the conversation,<BR>bc<P>"I draw a crowd like an architect"-Rakim

respect,
bc

"my old boy from the Point but I'm from Southwest..."

"Are you really ready to carry some weight?,
Are you ready to design your fate?" -Kelvin Mercer

  

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SoulChild

Tue Sep-14-99 11:55 AM

  
71. "Activism Article"
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Public Service for those interested<P><a href="http://villagevoice.com/features/9935/caramanica.shtml">http://villagevoice.com/features/9935/caramanica.shtml<;/a><P><a href="http://midnightfusion.com">http://midnightfusion.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.mp3.com/midnightfusion">http://www.mp3.com/midnightfusion<;/a>

  

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res1
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59. "thanks"
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Thanks for dropping some truth there, ?uest. My boy always asks me to borrow Full Clip or Moment of Truth so he can "hear that joint with Kci and JOJO", never mind the rest of the album is bangin'. Since no one else has validated it by playing it on the radio, he can't open his mind to it. A song by a "legitimate" artist can blow up, but the same song by an unheard of or (insert adjective here meaning not getting radio play) artist will not be felt by many because it does not "count". Pharoah Monch said something like "why must something be considered dope just because it's played on the radio 20 time perday" on stress (probably got the quote wrong, but you get the idea). WORD<BR>i don't have any constructive criticism, just support for real hip-hop artists...<P>res1<BR>"so what? you carry hot glocks and rocks, so what? that type of rap is #1 on the charts, so what? your video is on MTV, you still ain't an emcee to me"- Krumb Snatcha<BR>"claimin' you got pull, when the only pull you got is the wool over your eyes"- Talib Kweli<BR>S.P.U.

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SoulChild

Tue Sep-14-99 12:21 PM

  
72. "mix cap'n crunch w/ bran flakes"
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Is there anything wrong with that?<P>How come no one makes frosted bran flakes?<P>(I mean this figuratively AND literally)<P><BR><a href="http://midnightfusion.com">http://midnightfusion.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.mp3.com/midnightfusion">http://www.mp3.com/midnightfusion<;/a>

  

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50. "WRONG!!"
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>Why is it that hip-hop artists go <BR>>to W.I. events and continually get <BR>>clowned? I think of Biggie getting <BR>>booed off the stage at (I <BR>>think it was) Sunsplash for not <BR>>being dressed appropriately<BR>He was booed because he kept referring to the people as niggas!! ("where my real live niggas at?") and his dumb ass didn't know that people don't take that word as lightly as some of us Black people here do!!<P>Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P>'OH! GOMEN NASAI!' - me<BR>"Don't be speakin' japaMAnese to me!" - Sugah <BR>'ummm, get off the phone and go to bed baby!' - me<P>my boo's published poem from last year (this year very soon!!)<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#Heaven">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#Heaven<;/a> onEarth <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>"SO, what's the difference between us?<BR>We can start at the penis!!<BR>OR we can scream I JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK!<BR>and see who really means it!!" <BR>~Eminem - "What's The Difference Between Us" <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/sad.gif"><BR><a href="http://reviewz.simplenet.com/jointz/dre_difference.ram">http://reviewz.simplenet.com/jointz/dre_difference.ram<;/a>

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Okayspyrit

Sun Sep-12-99 09:08 AM

  
56. "no snare!UGH where was the illist stage manager?"
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Oh babe, my heart aches for your horrid experience!If I was there at least you and Hubb would of made out better.Oh and don't stress you guys are phenominal!Never doubt self.It is pretty self explanitory that the masses just aren't ready ready.I mean c'mon were talkin people who are more familiar with what shoes not to wear in fall this season than they are with thier own identity.How exactly are they gonna know that they are currently experiencing "the next movement"?Give 'em time they need it.But NEVER doubt your levels cause they are "the ultimite!"- rrock rockin it : ).Ok welp I love ya! And um well I dunno I just love you emmensely.OKbye<BR>

  

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concarne

Sun Sep-12-99 10:52 AM

  
57. "Still unclear on something, ?uest and fellow Okayers...."
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Just trying to clarify some shit-<BR>Was the video trauma the reason there was no performance in Seattle? Nobody's been able to fill me in on this. Too much trouble to fly all the way out here for one date? I'm not being sarcastic. I'm sure your reason's good.\<BR>Just wanna know. Ya'll know how it is - got all the cats I brought to the show stressin me with all their "C'mon, you go to the damn website - why wasn't they there?" I mean, I got at least 12 guys or so to by Things Fall Apart, got each one of em to go to the show, talked you up like ya'll was the next fuckin hip hop Beatles - taking it to new places and all that, and you kinda slap me in the face. Still mad respect and everything - just would like to know why - specifically. If this is too much to ask - that's cool. I won't be mad, just still a little confused. Still love every note/beat/word ya'll.<BR>Keep it up.<P>P.S. I'm a new guy. The name is Michael Dempster. I'm from Gig Harbor, WA (that's an hour from Seattle). 18 yrs. Going to Western Washington University. Love the Roots and my VW bus. (just fillin in the shit angie said to) Thanks.

  

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58. "&quot;new guy&quot; [not the newguy down the street] i already talked ab..."
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i will not print this again. nor will i go into why there was no show. however we will redeem ourselves in a month or so.....please hold on...<P><P><P><P><P>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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