Aiight, I've been logging onto okayplayer for about five months now, and I've been reading a lot of the stuff on here and my question is am I the only one? What I mean by that is Ahmir let's A LOT of ill shit come out of his mouth. I understand like most people should, is everyone has their own opinion and that's all this post is my opinion. Ahmir said in the D'Angelo tour gossip something about it was 40 cats to everyone shorty in some club and he knew it would be all these cats talking about "oh shit the roots I love ya'll shit" and he didn't feel like it. I can feel you on that, sometimes you just don't want people in your face but guess what? You're in the limelight, and that's what comes with the territory. If you're a student you're gonna have to do some studying, of course sometimes you're not going to feel like it, but you don't complain about it TO the teacher! It's like he's complaining about the fans, to the fans! Damn! Now, wait a minute I thought that's what artist want from fans but maybe I'm wrong. I'm from philly so I've seen the Roots grow from South street to the Grammy stage but damn, it just seems like Ahmir's head just keeps getting bigger with every new accomplishment. Platinum with Thing Falls Apart, Ahmir's head...a little bigger. A Grammy for Erykah Badu's album...a little bit bigger. And now with their own grammy...it's off the rocker. Now maybe it's just me, and that's why I'm asking, am I the only one? I thought Quest would want to hear how much people love the roots. Like I said I'm from the crib and now reside in Baltimore working at WEAA and produce Morgan State's hip hop show so I see the industry from every standpoint. Being a fan of hip hop, being behind the scenes, working for different labels, and being a producer but when I'm home for the most part, niggaz CAN'T STAND THE ROOTS!!! They want to hear Beanie or Eve. And I've read the the Roots really don't like performing in Philly because they don't get a lot of love. Now I'll be the first to admit that SOME Philly people have NO respect for hip hop as an art, but I just feel like you should show love to your fans that's all. Now about the Com album, I've got the advance, not the unmastered bootleg of "Like Water For Chocolate" and it's aiight. Not Com's best 74 minutes committed to tape by no means. I'd rather here "One Day", then "Resurrection" then "Like Water..." and then "Can I...", but then again that's just my humble opinion. I just feel the Soulquarians and Primo didn't come with it. No ID and Ynot(again in my opinion) is definitely missed on this project It's funny, it's like artist decide to put up their opinions and us the fans (or the peons) are just supposed to accept it, but let one of us post something and instead of politicing with us or building with us we get posts like "I'm sick of defending my shit it's 3am just buy the album!"! I mean, what's really the difference between the artist and the fans? In most aspects of this biz, the fans have more money than the rappers do, but they 're the ones with the big heads?!?! The fans MAKE these artist. If it wasn't for us, no one would buy the cd's. You wouldn't even ship platinum because the fans wouldn't be requesting it at the record stores. Seems assed backwards to me. That's what bugs me out. I would think the okay family would be more down to earth but I guess I was wrong. And the Tip review, is it ok if an album is made without Ahmir's involvement? Just asking but am I the only one? And if anyone would like to respond I would LOVE to hear back but let's build together, aiight? One.

...but I think it applies.<P>All I know is that when a good friend of mine and I were at the BAM afterparty, she went over (like loads of people) to tell ?uest how much she really really digs the Roots (and for how long) and how pleased she is that through the years they've kept it really really, well, REAL. Anyway, when she came back over from speaking with him she said, "I have no idea if I just annoyed the heck out of him with so many people going over to speak to him, but I really just wanted to let him know." (He did say thanks, btw.)<P>A few weeks later (around the end of the year) she and her guy were at Black Lily. ?uest was there and he came over and kissed her (ON THE CHEEK) and shook her guys hand and wished them both a happy new year. I'm certain he wouldn't have done that if he didn't remember and wasn't at least a little touched by what she said. <P>Doesn't sound like someone who's completely out of touch with the people who enjoy his music. <P>I read the tour update and what I got from the posted message you referred to was that the man was regretting being out AT ALL and not IN with his girlfriend. I don't know. That's what I got from it.<P>Maybe his head just APPEARS bigger cause he's letting his fro grow <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><P>Anna<P>Hair (hair, hair, hair)<BR>Flow it, show it<BR>Long as God can grow it my hair<BR>~ Hair<BR>

When you turn off the spotlight and strip away the $$$ and recognition all anybody can be is human. Humans have good days and bad days, likes and dislikes, and even flaws. What pisses me off is that people keep criticizing artists for not being down to earth or fitting some superstar standard like smiling in everybody's face when someone says they are a fan. Just enjoy the music! People get so caught up in the external, material facades rather than just relaxing and being happy that there are musicians like The Roots out there making good music. The whole "he spoke to me", "kissed my friend" bs is so triflin' and fake!

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...to anyone. I just get so tired of the artist baiting and hating going on on the okayplayer boards, in the media and everywhere else. When I buy a CD I don't expect anything in return except more good music and if I say I am fan it is because I respect the music or whatever.<P>Peace!

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thank you nettrice...i don't understand why people have to always criticize the okayartists...the 4 okayartist we have make up about 25% of good music today...and you all have to come on here and dis them...eff that...why can't you all be positive...everyday there's a new post about how for the first 2 sentences they "love" the artist...or the album...and spend the next 15 paragraphs bashing the shit out of it...ESPECIALLY WHEN NONE OF YOU HAVE EVEN HEARD THE EFFIN' ALBUM (you know WHO and WHAT i'm talking about)...I understand artists are always up for criticism...but why can't we just be positive about something instead of focusing on maybe one thing "bad" with an album...understand what i'm saying?...alright sorry, just wanted to vent<P><BR>"Webster's don't know jack" me<BR>"CARROTS" me<BR>"The system is screwed" me

>...i don't understand why people <BR>>have to always criticize the okayartists...the <BR>>4 okayartist we have make up <BR>>about 25% of good music today...and <BR>>you all have to come on <BR>>here and dis them...eff that...why can't <BR>>you all be positive...<P>Simple. Because negativity attracts more attention. Kil is obviously seeking attention. Attention that y'all are giving him.<P>This is prolly the first time I've ever contributed to a thread of this nature. There's a reason you never see my name attatched to wackness like this. I usually read a line or two, shake my head, and move on to something that's actually worth my time. So I guess congratulations are in order, Kil. You managed to post something wack enough to actually make me break my rule of not feeding into the games attention-seekers like yourself play, by EXPLOITING the artist/fan interactive atmosphere that we are busting our asses everyday to maintain and develop.<P>You insult our intelligence by slamming okayplayers...saying that you are "the only one"...implying (to me anyway) that this is a place for dickriding fans...but then you stay on here (you say you've been here for five months) and you make long-winded posts about how blind we all are and that we all worship the okayartists. Why do you stay here if you think that's what this site is about?<P>You ain't original, son. I see people like you talking this very same mess nearly every week!! If you were really on here for as long as you say, you should be able to find a more original way to get a rep.<P><P>PEACE<P>Doug (The New Guy)<BR>"While you exist in a perpetual state of mediocrity, I be droppin these on ya dome"<P>"How I made it? You salivated over my calibrated, raps that validated my ghetto credibility" - Monch

>...to anyone. I just get so <BR>>tired of the artist baiting and <BR>>hating going on on the okayplayer <BR>>boards, in the media and everywhere <BR>>else. When I buy a <BR>>CD I don't expect anything in <BR>>return except more good music and <BR>>if I say I am fan <BR>>it is because I respect the <BR>>music or whatever. <P>i agree totally<P>And if they don't put out an album that is what I want to hear...then I don't have to listen to it while I patiently wait for the next thing they drop...it's art....they have to create and try new things...why do they have to be stuck in a rut? OK I'm rambling now...but come on, down to earth to me means being human. Humans aren't perfect and they do have bad days , which they are entitled to. Dig?<P><BR>-One-<BR>Starli<BR>---------<BR>"Starli/gets the party started like a car key" -Juice<P>"At times my going forward seems like retreat" -Common<P>"Nobody puts Baby in a corner." -Johnny Castle<P>Proud SPAS associate

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Yall fuckin serious? Kil proposes an valid point and all I see is about six comments that's just dismissing everything he touched on, and what Ahmir himself said he loves, specifics! So let's get specific people. When I read a comment in Busta Rhymes CD saying "for those of you that I may have offended.... blah blah blah..I'm sorry, and then he says but if you don't like it FUCK YOU we already blazin!" This is not the attitude that these artists should be having! They the first ones to say this and that about what the FANS do and if you think, THAT'S what we here for, to keep shit in check! I would love to have a site like this for my fans to tell me ayo BOX your sound MAY be slipping a bit, clean it up or change this! But NOOOOOO all I see is really a couple of hot heads saying, well buy my shit but don't speak to me unless you got a cunt and some breast and Oh yeah A FAT ASS! Stop sniffing the clouds for a minute okayartists! We as your rent payers feel we have been rubbed the wrong way for nothing! Why wouldn't you want me as a fan and a person that respects your work to approach you in public and say it! WHY THE FUCK NOT!?? But when I buy a BOOTLEGGED version of your shit THAT'S when you want to remind me of MY duties as a FAN??? HA! You kidding!?? If you don't want, as you say NIGGAS on your dick saying I love the ROOTS, then why in the fuck would I want to SUPPORT a businessman who doesn't WANT to see me coming! The chinese learned from that very attitude the hardway! You goddam right I EXPECT to be able to approach the person I help go platinum! No Kil you not the only one because personally I'm sick and tired of getting shitted on by YOU, THE ARTIST! You could have stayed local and I would never have heard of the Squared Roots, or the ROOTS! Or songs like POPCORN, or I Remain Calm! You could have kept this shit in the fucking basement for YOUR fucking enjoyment! MY music aint gonna stay there! And when it does what it does I'm not going to shit on my public! I put in their hands to support and I will thank them and know that my thanking days will NEVER be over! I'm in it for the long haul! How can I call myself a true Hip-Hopper and but a bootleg? How can YOU call yourself an true ARTIST and not like the ones who LOVE you! This comment AIN'T just for the ROOTS either! Platinum has the letters A, and N of the word FAN if their WERE a F EVER in it yall must have used it to say F us! WAKE THE FUCK UP! YALL AIN'T REALLY like that UNLESS it's really LIKE THAT!<P><BR>And if I approach your ass again I aint on your dick, I just want an autograph and some conversation! Selfish ass motherfuckers!<P><P>Lunch<BR><img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/sad.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif">

I don't think you understand ?uest style of writing..it's more him thinking..I'll agree with whoever said he was just pissed about being out At ALL, <P>Have you ever gone out when you didn't really WANNA?!?!.. and then on top of it, it's usually the real annoying mutha fuckers in that particular situation that can justify to you why you shouldn't have gone out in the first place...hmmm stayed home instead..with your girl you don't get to see often...that's where he was comin' from...<P>besides...he obviously enjoys the company of REAL people..he hung out with okplayers keroline and jabril...why? probably cause they weren't on some next shit when hangin' with him...<P>man..and I why do i feel the need to defend ?uest...how many other artist even give their so-called fans a place to interact and meet other MAD cool peeps...and on top of that, take the time to be involved as well..<P>man some will never learn...<P><BR>Much love,<BR>Kyle<P>"i always tell people that fame is nothing but a good publicist, while talent is a genuine article..." ~ PoZi<P>profound statement #1-<BR>"In school I used to doodle, now i daze I use my noodle" ~ Brother Question

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Fuck ALL you closed minded bitch niggas who MISSING our point! Keep defending these assholes!<BR>Keep picking apart my shit to amuse yourself, and by all means keep making excuses! But you know Kil and myself aren't THE ONLY ONES who feel this way! Postal? Yeah that's me alright! I'm postal for being upset? According to yall, ain that my HUMAN right? Make up you mind!<P><BR>Lunch<BR><img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/sad.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif">

>Fuck ALL you closed minded bitch niggas who MISSING our point! Keep defending these assholes!<P>i don't know who you are, who you claim to be, or who you are trying to become, but it would seem to me that YOU are the one with the need for attitude adjustment. the others who responded to the initial post and yours are, like you, attempting to express their opinion, albeit in defense of artists like ?uest and the others. to that they get a "fuck all you closed minded bitch niggas"? it, to me, would appear that statement is no different that the example from Busta you cited (a "fuck you" if you don't like what I'm saying or how I'm saying it).<P>with that attitude, you should be so lucky to have anyone check for you or your music at all.<P>by the way, where can I pick up your music?<P>(btw, should another brilliant rebuttal such as a "fuck you" be forthcoming, save it. I printed your message out to hang on my wall alongside all my other motivational sayings...)<P><BR>deejaydub

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I thought that some people would have got my point with the chinese reference! But I get back the comments of a few people that must have went over that OR maybe my comment was over THEY head! So here I go again! First off I may have saw ?uest in concert at the 9:30 club but I NEVER met him face to face(thus the refferel to Busta). I just related to Kil(a he not a she by the way) because I politic with dudes and females alot about this very topic! Once it becomes public you got to DEAL with the public! Not like but DEAL! I feel that when I go from being the cat from D.C. to multiplatinum or just plain ol HEARD on the radio, it'll NEVER be the same! I got to manage to stay here or when I go to work a job "aint you that dude who used to be.." will be dropping out of plenty mouths! Follow me so far? While I make my mark on the industry I need to keep the interest of the fans that the Lord blessed me with! I will HAVE to sign autographs, kiss babies, smile in photos you know the tiring shit! Because when they decide to boycott, oh shit! But as long as they happy, I have room to grow on my label, and maybe a chance to get my own because my clientel speak when my shit hits the stores! Now for ?uest! NO I don't feel you owe me a Goddam thing! If you buying a meal and I don't got the ends in the restaurant for my bill I'm not gonna look over and notice you and say "Hey" I brought his album with my laundry money "HE OWES ME"! Bullshit! BUT I do feel there's a certain level of professionalism that must be maintained within the artist/fan relationship! If I want to get on-there are ways that I SHOULD and SHOULD NOT approach you or anyone! If I want to politic-SAME THING! So let me ask this ?uest. Do you think this comment you reading right now will be spoken to you with a bottle of Champagne in the hand of the person speaking with spit flying every two seconds!?? No! I don't do that, I know how to approach people! Professional! I'll give two examples! I approached Com when Ressurection came out and he told me call him Rashid and we proceeded to talk about the album and people he might want to work with in the future etc. I even gave him me rendition of what I thought H.E.R stood for(How. Everybody. Rapped) he laughed and said "that's what it means now" with a beer in HIS hand. That was the realest experience I had with someone I thought I would NEVER get to speak with! Then there was Flipmodes frontman at the EPMD concert! EPMD were the coolest things in there speaking with everyone! Then I turn around to Busta who before I got the word Hay out my grill PUSHED pass me, I almost fell if my fall wasn't broken by a kind bouncer who didn't think I was disrespecting him! Fans we aint the scum of the earth but we are EVERYWHERE! We the ones who don't got the deal, the ones who DO have the deals, and the ones scheeming on your shit! But we are HUMAN too! Do we ALL have to be treated in a harsh manner just because a person gave you a BAD experience? And to the dude who asked why am I here?......This is a good website, the best I've seen so far! I battle here, chat here, and DEBATE! I am OKAY!<P><BR>Lunch<BR><img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/sad.gif"> <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif">

in my opinion (READ: MY OPINION) I feel as if he tries more than most to show his appreciation for the fans' support. I also feel like everyone deserves a moment's peace. As far as the tour diary you are quoting, it seems like you are reading a bit too much into it. To me, it seemed like he was dreading the "I love the Roots" male groupie-wannabe types. whatever.<P>I feel like artists like the Roots are doing what they do because of their love of music and an attempt to further hone their craft. I don't feel as if we, the fans, "make" the artist. what we do, is, show our support by buying the music, seeing the shows, etc. i don't feel that this entitles us to have them on a leash, asking them to obey our every command. i do feel that no matter how talented an artist may be, they should in every way attempt to remain humble and appreciative, but come on, they're human like everyone else.<P><BR>deejaydub

so you must know me cause you refer to me as "ahmir", you say it like we grew up together.<BR>my post forgot to mention the cats were also drunk that's what irks me. sheeeit you try and hold a coversation with a cat who spits on you every 2 second.<P>i mean those who "know me" know me, (not "i remember when they didn't have a deal")know the time. my actions speak for itself....<P>i don't agree with this "we made you" bullshit. my mother and father made me. you either support my art or not, other than that i don't owe you a damn thing. sure it helps in fan/artist relationships but it's not required....shieeet miles davis did fine without it.<P>so you don't like "chocolate". great!<P>other than that, "quest's word is law" is how you takin it, i debate here with cats all the time. my mentor in writing said that you are to speak your mind and write down your feelings. <P>i think you are just hell bent on contradicting me. you can listen to "1 2 many" all you want. <P>go have fun.<P> <P><P><P><P><P>THE SOULQUARIANS<BR>chewy (quest).....jan<BR>luke (d)........feb <BR>lando (jaydee)......feb<BR>cp30 (james poyser).....jan<BR>r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan<BR>hans (chaos)........jan<BR>anakin (lil mike)......feb<P>honorary members:<BR>kelo- soulacorn.......jan<BR>common- soulcies......march<BR>erykah- soulcies......feb<BR>

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organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

I feel U on that tip. I know it's gotta be hectic when U get drunken fools and obnoxious ones all in your face. Sometimes people just wanna chill.

Hey thanks Quest for setting the record straight... as an aspiring artist I realize that fans do try and manipulate you in saying that they made you when in all actuallity you made yourself... the fans just support you... Obviously your going to have to do somethings for the fans... D'Angelo's Untitled Video for example female fans loved it... I'm not saying that was D's intention, cuz I'm sure it wasn't, but it did work out that way... So to all you fans out there... don't tell artist you made them.... thats disrespectful... to their talent... to their music... and to them... so until you walk 1/2 a mile in their shoe's don't step on them...<P>Keep it Real and Flow From the Soul Y'all...<P>untitled...

Cock suckers???? Hmmmmm Interesting.....i was just saying i know how that gets.....

>you either support my <BR>>art or not, other than that <BR>>i don't owe you a damn <BR>>thing. <P>To say you don't owe your fans and supporters "a damn thing"... that's effed up. That's about the most effed up thing I've read all year. Do you go back and read what you write before you post it? If you don't owe your supporters a damn thing, then what's an acceptance speech for? Just walk up on stage, take your Grammy, say "I'd like to thank myself for making this all possible," and go back to your seat.<BR> <BR>"Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall."<BR>- Solomon (Proverbs 16:18)<P><BR>---------------------------<BR>"when science finally locates the center of the universe, some people will be surprised to learn they're not it."<BR>- unknown<P>"words - so innocent and powerless as they are, as standing in a dictionary, how potent for good and evil they become in the hands of one who knows how to combine them."<BR>- nathaniel hawthorne<P>"whatever happens it was written, meaning God meant it..." <BR>- nasir jones

A billion people can buy your albums and merchandise and still never ever be able to glimpse at the hard work, blood, sweat and tears that went into creating your work. Maybe he sounds a little "cold", but maybe it's this same shit, over and over and over again that's making him lash out!<P>Why didn't the "dim wit" who posted this, e-mail him? He personally attacked Quest! I'd be pissed too!<P>Quest should pull a MADONNA and not give a flying fuck what anybody thinks! Then I bet, he'll be a little better understood. But no, some have to mistake his meekness for weakness.<P>BLING! BLING!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"Ima put a curse on you. Might as well cause honestly, don't want no one to have you but me....." Sleepy's Theme <P>"Now, who else wanna fuck with Hollywood Coles?"- Dre/Kast<P>"Guess I shoulda known by the way you parked your car sideways that it wouldn't last." - Prince<P>"If trouble were money, I swear I'd be a millionaire" - Stokely/MintCondition<P>"The quickest way to fire's heart, is through her ears" - fire<P>"But, here I is slaving away for the man instead of entertaining the masses." - fire<P>"Bitch, tone this!" - Stress<P>

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<BR>>To say you don't owe your fans <BR>>and supporters "a damn thing"... that's <BR>>effed up. That's about the <BR>>most effed up thing I've read <BR>>all year. Do you go <BR>>back and read what you write <BR>>before you post it? If <BR>>you don't owe your supporters a <BR>>damn thing, then what's an acceptance <BR>>speech for? Just walk up <BR>>on stage, take your Grammy, say <BR>>"I'd like to thank myself for <BR>>making this all possible," and go <BR>>back to your seat.<P><BR>look. there is no writen law that says "i owe someone something" all that i give is my own free will. if that was the case then where is my OJ prize? mike owes me an autograph for the 13 copies of Thriller i purchased. you are confusing the words: "owe" and "thankful". did you read anywhere in which i said i wasn't greatful? i mean come on.....last night's response was a late night response. and i really didn't read the fine print (read: ignored most of the post and cut to the chase) but now i'm like.....what the fuck? how much more of my life do you want? even as i speak right now i'm missing the last day of mardi gras defending this bullshit. what do you want? list specifics. there is no law that says: "pick up the check everytime you take 10 or more players to dinner"....but i do. there is no law that says: "i have to shell out $600 so that the players can see a show" (and y'all thought that i just put y'all on the list? that comes from my pocket)look, before this becomes a vein self congratulatory thing lemme say again, there is no law that says i owe anything. i'm required to make music. label gives me money, i give them the masters. i promote it. no one told that i owed anyone anything. i do it all on free will and love.<P>"do i look like a godamn rolemodel?"<BR>-ice cube, 1989<P>THE SOULQUARIANS<BR>chewy (quest).....jan<BR>luke (d)........feb <BR>lando (jaydee)......feb<BR>cp30 (james poyser).....jan<BR>r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan<BR>hans (chaos)........jan<BR>anakin (lil mike)......feb<P>honorary members:<BR>kelo- soulacorn.......jan<BR>common- soulcies......march<BR>erykah- soulcies......feb<BR>zack- soulicorn.......feb<P>(AFTER SEEING MY PERFORMANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME, MY IDOL STEVE FERRONE EMAILED ME THIS LETTER.....)<P>Opening fill from "person to person". ....... $100.00<BR>Cute fill betwween hi hat, bass drum and snare ....... $1500.00<BR>Horn line from "Love Your Life" ..... $10,000.35<BR>Breakfast with Ferrone.... Gratis<P>The reason you are being charged for the horn line is that it was probably your idea to use it!<P>You da man! Great show! Really nice pocket! Call or e-mail sometime, and take care out there.<BR>818-***-****<P>God Bless,<P>Stephen Ferrone.<BR>

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organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

Micah I can see how you might have misconstrued what quest said. I dont think he meant that (not owing us anything) in a pejorative (sp) way. I happen to agree with him somewhat. He does what he likes and we collectively appreciate it. If we don't agree we can go elsewhere. True he was a little abrasive but we must not always be so critical.

all yall (espically the new cats....im sorry...but its overwhelminly the case) think shit is sweet...that just cause Quest answers all your retarted questions and takes heed to your spaced out comments...dont mean that shit is cool....<P>look, if yall dont like whas goin on here....then go back to those lil wu tang pages that yall are always on......quest aint tryin to run for president...so he dont need your vote of confidence....<P>cock sukers.....<P><P>One Love<BR>RamXL<BR>(beat junkie)<P>"Each soul is potentially divine, the goal is to manifest this divinity within by controlling nature: external and internal. Do this either by work, or worship, or psychic control, or philosophy -- by one, or more, or all these -- and be free." Swami Vivekanada<P><BR>"hip-hops the lifestyle of urban civilians, even cops know it dont stop!" Planet Asia<P><P><P><P>

"shit, been the same since '86 and kane"

love, baby. love

I can't wait to hear ya'll on friday! <BR>yo hook my boy que up for real, you know the bald nigga that stay rocking the kufi<BR>peace!!!<P>damn north carolina!!<P>

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

Music Art is something that you do from your heart to express your self. not something only a few people can do that should be put on a pedestal<P>Its kind of wack and sad in this celebrity obsessed culture that even so called "underground heads" get caught up in the "idolization" Part of the culture as obsessed to just respecting some one as an artist and a peer<P>don t yell at ?uest and them like <BR>"what are you doing for me" look at your self and ask "what am i doing for me?"

how many artists do you all know who make any kind of attempt to interact with fans? i mean when the last time you saw NAS kickin it on a website? or the last time mutherfukin Lil Wayne went to support the Black Lily and talked to people at a show?? i mean damn! i mean com, D, all these folks take time to post and express themselves on here, and of course some gonna take their shots cause they got nothin else to do. ?uest is on here more than angiee!!! i dont care what he sayin as long as he is here showin fans that he knows that we exist, and interactin with us. rock stars, rappers, whatever, they just people too, and ?uest act like it. whenever i seen him at a show i seen him take time to talk to whoever approached him. what more can you ask for? all i sayin is, i dare you to find any other grammy winning artist who take the time that the roots fam do. life is too short to get all bent on this shit anyhow. dont worry be mutherfuckin happy.<P><BR>"Drink Listerine, brush my teeth with amphetamine<BR>So I can sound fresh and say dope things in between." -Ras Kass

TALK TO ?UEST LIKE THAT! IMMA BITCH SLAP YO ASS, UMMM BITCH! YA WHUH?!! IM ?UEST'S 120 LB. 14 YEAR OLD BODY GUARD... U BETTER HOPE I DUN SEE U ON THE STREET.. ILL BUST YO ASS!! peace and love <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">.<P>"If the streets were college, some MC's would fail." -GURU<P><BR>

I'm kinda in a special position where I can relate to BOTH sides. I co-host the #1 6-10 pm radio show in Chicago (Bad Boy Radio on WGCI). Wgci is the radio station that gave you Tom Joyner and Doug Banks whose syndicated morning shows are heard all across this great country. This radio station does'nt breed your average 'oh-yeah-I-heard-of-you' dj, it breeds 'STARS'(I will use stars in quotes because thats what our boss tell us we will become). The support and love we recieve from the listeners is like no love you have ever seen for a radio personality. We are like actual local celebs and just like the Roots, we have our own intercative website www.thebadboyz.com(shameless plug)<P>How does this relate, you ask? I'm kinda like ?uest, the interactive one. Out and about, responding to questions on the site, trying to take the good with the bad. We all got into this for some sort of LOVE but the fans can be a bit much at times. Whether they're drunk, callin your name like they know you, or shittin' on your work,(or in my case show)you can only take so much. FUCK WHAT ANYONE SAYS ABOUT 'YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION' NO ONE LIKES IT WHEN YOU DISLIKE THEIR SHIT! Artists put their heart and soul into this and the fans shoot it down...excuse me 'review' it in seconds. They (hip hop fans and our radio listeners) also feel like your success is based on THEM ALONE. 'Y'all would'nt be shit if it was'nt for us, dont forget that' they'll tell you in a heartbeat!<P>From the fan side I can relate too. ?uest would seem approachable because of his interaction with this site. I remember when I was a kid, since I wanted to be a dj, I wanted nothing more than to hang out with the cool radio jocks when they did a party at the local skate rink. But they seemed too cool to approach (not unlike a lot of hip hop artists). Of course you could go up to them if you were fine with a fat ass (also like a lot of artists). I don't think artists are in it for the ass... it just comes with the job. If more fans were like Guru (give 'em a pound, tell 'em my name, told 'em I liked their music and was out) artists would appreciate it more, but people want to freestyle or sing for you (Boyz II Men syndrome) or just hang out which aint cool after awile cuz the artists MIGHT be trying to get laid (after all we are men and well, if they're gonna give it to us were gonna take it... right?)<P>Anyway, i'm rambling and I don't want y'all to get too mad at the okayartists for speaking they're minds (Aquarius' and Pisces can be brutally honest) Hell, y'all do the same and they're/we're supposed to just take it?<P>Disclamer:<BR>This was not written to put myself or WGCI radio in the same light as the Roots. (hell, who the fuck am I anyway?) <P><BR><a href="http://www.thebadboyz.com" target="_blank">http://www.thebadboyz.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.wgci.com" target="_blank">http://www.wgci.com<;/a><P><P><P>'Don't worry 'bout what the fuck I be doin'- Smokey

are you mike liza or the diza, and more importantly, how come you cant get Elroy to play some real shit(i know y'all aint makin the music decisions so i cant blame you totally)..you are the only game in town, so we chicago heads are forced to listen to R&B marathons and maybe some bullshit puffy record 10 times a week. cmon man, support common and the roots shit!

I see you're new around these parts, so wont even go into defending WGCI (not only does it have nothing to do with this post, but i've done it before on ILLWILL'S 'why cant we support our own'thread). As far as radio play i will say this, and i wont start a new thread because unlike some okayplayers I hate a lot of attention.<P>It's quite suprising that ?uestlove is Common's executive producer and they did'nt release a more radio friendly single.This is the same group that did 'you got me' and 'what you want' not to mention this new song that's gettin all the airplay in Philly. Just wondering<P><BR>'Don't worry 'bout what the fuck I be doin'- Smokey

. <BR>>It's quite suprising that ?uestlove is Common's <BR>>executive producer and they did'nt release <BR>>a more radio friendly single.This is <BR>>the same group that did 'you <BR>>got me' and 'what you want' <BR>>not to mention this new song <BR>>that's gettin all the airplay in <BR>>Philly. <P>because i never create jams with the intent of "wow this is going to make radio". up until recently i used to lose sleep over how many mics i got in the source, and what position will the records i produce wind up in on the village voice pazz and jop awards.<P><BR>believe it or not "what" and "got" wern't even radio attempts (and if you listen close, they really don't follow the status quo formula of "radiology") we had met rae (from the tonies) in sac and he said he wanted to get down with us, and being though the tonies were my favorite band i said "YES!" then we noticed that none of the jams we had were "singable". so i took a barry white line and replayed it. during the mixdown bob had it sounding like radio. i was somewhat shakey about it, then i thought...."well i'm a musician...and this sounds like music" even though you aren't pulling my card or anything i just wanted to explain the mindthought when we go into work mode.<P>as far as com is concerned, he just wanted to make something so different. he wanted a soul record. i thought that was an odd request until i realized that except for reruns (goin to fatbeats down the street to purchase our umpteenth gang starr record) and a few underground cats (no not slum....) i pretty much gave up on hip hop. not as a whole, but as in most of my time i listen to tony allen, stevie wonder, and marvin gaye. and we knew that some cats would feel uncomfortable with it (singing on wax is like kryptonite to some underground heads] i felt our saving grace was that this dosn't sound like radio.<BR>i dunno, perhaps we can set a new standard in which you don't have to pick the hottest cat out to "piggyback" yourself on radio. or maybe when commercial artist's won't be afraid to work with the artist that they truly like and not who is more radio friendly. <P>just because a dj's audience approves of a song and says it's "hot" does that mean it is?<P>i mean crack is popular with the masses, does that mean.....<P><P><BR>THE SOULQUARIANS<BR>chewy (quest).....jan<BR>luke (d)........feb <BR>lando (jaydee)......feb<BR>cp30 (james poyser).....jan<BR>r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan<BR>hans (chaos)........jan<BR>anakin (lil mike)......feb<P>honorary members:<BR>kelo- soulacorn.......jan<BR>common- soulcies......march<BR>erykah- soulcies......feb<BR>zack- soulicorn.......feb<P>(AFTER SEEING MY PERFORMANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME, MY IDOL STEVE FERRONE EMAILED ME THIS LETTER.....)<P>Opening fill from "person to person". ....... $100.00<BR>Cute fill betwween hi hat, bass drum and snare ....... $1500.00<BR>Horn line from "Love Your Life" ..... $10,000.35<BR>Breakfast with Ferrone.... Gratis<P>The reason you are being charged for the horn line is that it was probably your idea to use it!<P>You da man! Great show! Really nice pocket! Call or e-mail sometime, and take care out there.<BR>818-***-****<P>God Bless,<P>Stephen Ferrone.<BR>

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

>the hottest cat out to "piggyback" <BR>>yourself on radio. or maybe when <BR>>commercial artist's won't be afraid to <BR>>work with the artist that they <BR>>truly like and not who is <BR>>more radio friendly. <BR>>just because a dj's audience approves of <BR>>a song and says it's "hot" <BR>>does that mean it is? <BR>>i mean crack is popular with the <BR>>masses, does that mean..... <P>this leads into what i believe is wrong with the radio. and most albums...basically, it's like the artist and the producer aren't together at all. you got emcee's who write lyrics, and then cats are in their ear, "you gotta work with swiss, or primo, or dre, or timb..." instead of the writer and the producer sitting down trying to make music.<P>don't y'all remember when dj's were a part of the crew? doesn't that go to explaining why the hot boys have a sound? fuck it, i like mannie fresh, and you can tell that the emcee's feel his shit too, because they are making music together, not this cut and paste, my vocals over your sound shit. albums lack consistency and staying power.<P>if a single blows up, it blows up. i had to stop listening to "you got me" because it played so much, but you better believe i'm still bumpin' the lesson part three...<P>...whatdoesthishavetodowiththisthread??? (who cares?)<P>final score - dj's (producers) should be a part of the crew!<BR>_______________________________________<BR><a href="http://www.h8r.com/diallo" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com/diallo<;/a>

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Urban radio formats are gonna be the death of creative artists. Urban radio formats are gonna be the death of me. Urban radio formats are gonna be the death of urban radio.<P>The worst words to hear are, "you need to make it more "radio". "WTF is radio? Three minutes thirty seconds? A hook that sounds exactly like a Mother Goose nursery rhyme? <P>Some days I hate the radio......... <P>BLING! BLING!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"Ima put a curse on you. Might as well cause honestly, don't want no one to have you but me....." Sleepy's Theme <P>"Now, who else wanna fuck with Hollywood Coles?"- Dre/Kast<P>"Guess I shoulda known by the way you parked your car sideways that it wouldn't last." - Prince<P>"If trouble were money, I swear I'd be a millionaire" - Stokely/MintCondition<P>"The quickest way to fire's heart, is through her ears" - fire<P>"But, here I is slaving away for the man instead of entertaining the masses." - fire<P>"Bitch, tone this!" - Stress<P>

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It's official!<P>Im a Made Man (Goodfellas fashback: Tears, Hugs and Pounds all aound!)<P>I used to feel like the unpopular guy in high school until now. First Angeee now ?uest! I feel like that same guy at his locker and the Captain of the ball team just gave me a pound in front of everybody. Cool.<P>'You Got Me' and 'What You Want' BOTH started with the Chorus FIRST, and all any Program Director wants to hear from ANY song is THE HOOK.<BR>(This still does'nt explain 'Nuthin But A G Thang'or 'Dre Day' but hopefully you get my point).<P><P>'Don't worry 'bout what the fuck I be doin'- Smokey

not bein funny at all. but i really never knew this. man! i owe hub an apology, he can't stand it when i suggest doin a song without the hook first. he says that's like buying a store without advertising. oh no...it's official now that this is in my brain.....<P>"quest is startin all his songs with the hooks now"<P>well not that most of em don't already, but now how am i going to avoid this?<P>lord. thanks mike, now you done created a monster.<P>lol<P><P><P><P><BR>>'You Got Me' and 'What You Want' <BR>>BOTH started with the Chorus FIRST, <BR>>and all any Program Director wants <BR>>to hear from ANY song is <BR>>THE HOOK. ><P>THE SOULQUARIANS<BR>chewy (quest).....jan<BR>luke (d)........feb <BR>lando (jaydee)......feb<BR>cp30 (james poyser).....jan<BR>r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan<BR>hans (chaos)........jan<BR>anakin (lil mike)......feb<P>honorary members:<BR>kelo- soulacorn.......jan<BR>common- soulcies......march<BR>erykah- soulcies......feb<BR>zack- soulicorn.......feb<P>(AFTER SEEING MY PERFORMANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME, MY IDOL STEVE FERRONE EMAILED ME THIS LETTER.....)<P>Opening fill from "person to person". ....... $100.00<BR>Cute fill betwween hi hat, bass drum and snare ....... $1500.00<BR>Horn line from "Love Your Life" ..... $10,000.35<BR>Breakfast with Ferrone.... Gratis<P>The reason you are being charged for the horn line is that it was probably your idea to use it!<P>You da man! Great show! Really nice pocket! Call or e-mail sometime, and take care out there.<BR>818-***-****<P>God Bless,<P>Stephen Ferrone.<BR>

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

You seem to be a long winded, no point type of guy. So let me ask you this, what do you want?<P>You question Questlove's character.<BR>You say niggaz hate the Roots.<BR>You say that YOU made Questlove.<P>So what do you want?<P>You want Quest to shut up?<BR>You want Quest to grovel at your feet begging for forgiveness?<BR>You want Quest to "have a smaller head?"<P>What DO YOU WANT?<P>I'll tell you this, Quest has been more than even handed with response to these kind of personal attacks then almost anyone I have know. You are doing nothing but attacking him in your post.<P>So, make a point.<P>And if your musical opinions differ with Quest's, post them in the Lesson, and DO not directly attack him. You have your opinions, and so does Quest. Quest is not obligated by law to be gracious when you press him on an issue. Jay-Z would just stab you. Puffy would put two to your body. Quest just disagrees. Don't like his opinions, well then form your own and find some people who would visit your website.<P>By the way, your original post is filled generalizations, ancedotal evidence and just plain stupidity. In my opinion. <P>Also, please tell your mother to stop calling my pad after midnight.<P>-Tom

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<BR>>What I mean by that is <BR>>Ahmir let's A LOT of ill <BR>>shit come out of his mouth. <P>Ive read iller shit on these boards by non-roots people.<P><BR>I can <BR>>feel you on that, sometimes you <BR>>just don't want people in your <BR>>face but guess what? You're in <BR>>the limelight, and that's what comes <BR>>with the territory. <P>If you can feel that, why try to present a different reality? thats kinda contradictory. This is the exact reason why last summer I saw him at the train station but let him go about his business, we had met before, he was cool so I just layed low, I think he may have been saying hey one time at the wetlands while he was talking to dream hampton but it was noisy and I didnt wanna interrupt their convo. Theres a thing called respect, and a time/place for everything. I'll tell you this though if I coulda made it off the bus I woulda ran up n showed mos def love when I saw him with chairman mao out the window.<P>It's like he's <BR>>complaining about the fans, to the <BR>>fans! Damn! Now, wait a minute <BR>>I thought that's what artist want <BR>>from fans but maybe I'm wrong. <P>Like I said time n place for everything. Hes shown us much love times when I was n wasnt present. I know of no other artist paying for cats to eat at a movie shoot, etc.<P><BR>>it, but let one of us <BR>>post something and instead of politicing <BR>>with us or building with us <BR>>we get posts like "I'm sick <BR>>of defending my shit it's 3am <BR>>just buy the album!"! <P>I'll give you this one halfway, ?uest takes offense to people criticizing his stuff, he usually has a vision though, and puts a lot into trying to get that vision across. Imagine you put a piece of work in a museum for display, something you were feeling when you created it n you got cats talking shit about it. You would be a little defensive. He takes the time out to defend himself, but you dont HAVE to buy the album its your money, your tastes, hes usually having to say "my shit is dope and this is why", whether you feel him or not is your opinion.<P>I would <BR>>think the okay family would be <BR>>more down to earth but I <BR>>guess I was wrong. <P>I wouldnt even say I know the okayartists, Ive met everyone except d'angelo and hub, and I'd say they all are relatively down to earth, even thought, maybe you had a bad experience. Keep in mind though these are people just like me n you, they dont wanna be bothered all of the time.<P>And the <BR>>Tip review, is it ok if <BR>>an album is made without Ahmir's <BR>>involvement?<P>I took that review to have a joking tone. From what I know ?uest n Tip are still cool regardless of him not being on the album. I took the review to say "This is why Im feelin the amplified album, even though I wasnt on it". Friendly stroking of his own ego, like "Im the shit, you shoulda had me on there, jay dee is the shit too though" (WHY DOES HE DICKRIDE JAY DEE SO MUCH PART 23, next weeks post of controversy) It was a creative way of expressing his thoughts on the album, being a highly controversial album since cats say tip sold out.<P><BR> Just asking but am I <BR>>the only one? And if anyone <BR>>would like to respond I would <BR>>LOVE to hear back but let's <BR>>build together, aiight? One. <P>Possibly your intent was good and harmless, but sometimes I think cats do this kinda stuff just because they know ?uest will read it n respond.

You're entitled to your opinion of ?uest's art just like everybody else, but your statements about his head is getting too big and how he doesn't care about his fans are completely unfounded. If he didn't care about us, why is he spending some of his valuable free time talking to us on this board? How many artists spend that kinda time on their fans without receiving any compensation?<P>If he doesn't care about what we think, why does he even defend himself? If our opinions didn't matter, they wouldn't be worth debating. The fact that he made the effort to respond to your ridiculous accusations proves you wrong. <P>As for his supposed obligation to you and everyone else, your reward is the MUSIC. You pay $15 at coconuts for a CD not an autograph session. You pay for a concert ticket to get a live performance not to have a nice chat with the artists afterwards. That's the deal, everything else is a bonus. You pay for the art, not the artist. You didn't buy stock in the roots, you don't own a piece of them. They owe you nothing because you already got plenty in return for your money. Artists receive our support because we appreciate and enjoy their art, end of story.