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_bigheezy_

Wed Mar-22-00 05:55 PM

  
"how i feel about the soulquarians"


          

i don't know how to say this. this is really hard for me considering the roots common and d'angelo are some of my favorite performers of this new hip-hop era. i don't know how i can say this considering the roots and common are two of my biggest influences in the hip-hop music i create. understand me when i say i am an okayplayer, but i'm not a dick rider. i don't want to say this but, FUCK A SOULQUARIAN<P>d'angelo's album-a dissapointment-there were some nice tunes don't get me wrong but, brown sugar sounded like a debut album and was cool for it's time but i expected him to step it up. songs sound too similar. why stick to using the same instruments if you can't make those instruments sound new or fresh every track.<P>common's album better than d'angelo's but still was not as innovative as one day it will all make sense. still not as unique as one day it all makes sense or ressurection.<P>is the soulquarians mission to make everyone sound the same. are tracks on lwfc and voodoo not interchangeable? <P>do the soulquarians believe they have the perfect formula for creating hip-hop soul?<P>do the soulquarians believe they have the ability to produce the massess?<P>or are they just cocky bastards?<P>my veiw is that my mentors are running out of creative juices. to succesfully produce the massess you have to beable to give each artist a unique sound.<P>i know i'm going to get shit on for this because the majority of you cats won't listen to new ideas that go against the grain. i just hope someone will listen respectably. you don't have to agree just listen.<P>-naeem j.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Wow
Mar 22nd 2000
1
how i feel about _bigheezy_ [display none]
Mar 23rd 2000
53
      rage against the soulquarians?
Mar 23rd 2000
60
           correction
Mar 27th 2000
67
well.....
simonhermansen
Mar 22nd 2000
2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Mar 23rd 2000
3
Leat the beat down begin!
Mar 23rd 2000
4
back and forth...
Mar 23rd 2000
5
ooooh, dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 23rd 2000
6
bigcheezy
Mar 23rd 2000
7
come on now.
_bigheezy_
Mar 23rd 2000
12
Uhhh...
Mar 23rd 2000
8
I agree w/ BShelly
Mar 23rd 2000
9
Guess what ya'll?
Mar 23rd 2000
10
      *givin a pound*
Mar 23rd 2000
11
      that's the problem right there
Mar 23rd 2000
15
           I agree totally
Mar 23rd 2000
16
                oh for DAWG's sakes!
Mar 23rd 2000
19
                Elrey?
Mar 23rd 2000
20
                Ooooops
Mar 23rd 2000
30
                No offense taken
Mar 23rd 2000
45
                Oooooooooooops
Mar 23rd 2000
37
                HATERS UNITE!!!
Mar 27th 2000
71
                bow wow wow
Mar 23rd 2000
35
                okayconformity...
SheRise
Mar 23rd 2000
59
                     Couldn't have said it better myself n/m
Mar 24th 2000
65
      what what WHAT!
_bigheezy_
Mar 23rd 2000
14
bshelly
_bigheezy_
Mar 23rd 2000
13
Biggy?
Mar 23rd 2000
17
hot damn ho here we go again (not callin anybody a ho)
Mar 23rd 2000
18
&quot;Just got my official &quot;LWFC&quot;.....
Kil
Mar 23rd 2000
21
      ohhhhh...KIL!
Mar 23rd 2000
31
      Lets tie Kil to a post and throw darts at him!!! n/m
Mar 23rd 2000
48
      Lets tie Kil to a post and throw darts at him!!! n/m
Mar 23rd 2000
49
           No Nikki
Mar 23rd 2000
51
      why are you even on this website? n/m
conceited_bastard
Mar 23rd 2000
47
           why are you?? n/m
Mar 23rd 2000
52
I disagree with all of you...
Mar 23rd 2000
22
......fire laughing uncontrollably ..........
Mar 23rd 2000
24
uhm...
Mar 23rd 2000
23
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 23rd 2000
25
fasten ya seat-belt! HEHE! n/m
Mar 23rd 2000
38
great answer
Mar 23rd 2000
26
Thanks...
Mar 23rd 2000
50
To quote DMX:
JDET313
Mar 23rd 2000
27
&quot;Innovation?&quot;
Kil
Mar 23rd 2000
28
Innovation Part II
Mar 23rd 2000
33
      &quot;Let me get this straight...&quot;
Kil
Mar 23rd 2000
36
           I know it's all good cause......
Mar 23rd 2000
39
                &quot;Fire you're the coolest...&quot;
Kil
Mar 23rd 2000
43
                     No, no no
Mar 23rd 2000
44
                          Not synthesizers
Mar 23rd 2000
46
                               Pete Rock DOES play live instruments
Mar 23rd 2000
61
                               RE: Not synthesizers
Mar 27th 2000
68
man
Mar 23rd 2000
29
      cocoa brother?
Mar 23rd 2000
34
heads...
Mar 23rd 2000
32
&quot;It doesn't sound fresh&quot;
Mar 23rd 2000
40
Cheez Beatz don't sound fresh
Mar 23rd 2000
41
Damn! I love ALL Y'ALL!
Mar 23rd 2000
42
i know
Mar 23rd 2000
54
Dude, you got heart...
Chrishawn
Mar 23rd 2000
55
YESS !!!! FINALLY A PERSON WITH BALLS !!!!!
emajor19
Mar 23rd 2000
56
i don't give a fizzy fiz-uck...
a_pza
Mar 23rd 2000
57
      *sigh*
mogabog
Mar 23rd 2000
58
           I really like this concept
Mar 24th 2000
63
stop hating. he got his we got ours!!!!
simonhermansen
Mar 23rd 2000
62
Harsh--
PrettyMamaT
Mar 24th 2000
64
in my humble opinion......
Mar 24th 2000
66
mass haterism
Mar 27th 2000
69
mass haterism
Mar 27th 2000
70
RE: mass haterism
Mar 27th 2000
72
And I guess you can't tell the differencce . . .
Mar 28th 2000
73
RE: And I guess you can't tell the difference . . .
PrettyMamaT
Mar 28th 2000
74
why does everyone clown samplers?.
Mar 28th 2000
75
Man, did this fool need attention...
illegit
Mar 28th 2000
76

bshelly
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1. "Wow"
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<BR>You're about to get flamed to hell (unless somebody already posted on this topic, in which case you'll get a couple snide respones telling you this). But let me speak upon your points, because I dont' think they're without merit.<P>Yeah, I'm a little concerned with the convergence among okayplayer artists. In a sense, it's only natural. The two people most responsible for any "soulquarian/okayplayer" sound seem to have very similar tastes in music and have been working together for five years. I admitt, as much as I like the Common album, part of me was like, "Oh, this again." I've posted on this before, but I think Quest and D (and feel free, either one of you, to tell me to shut my damn mouth) are more interested at this point in mining the groove than coming innovative. They've created a really funky sound, and they want to explore all the possibilities of it. Must it be exciting to do as a musician? Probably. Is it producing exciting music? Undoubtedly. Do "Things Fall Apart," "Voodoo," and "Like Water for Chocolate" resemble one another more than I'd like them to? Sure 'nuff.<P>But, I don't think we should complain too much. Unlike you, I think Voodoo is the shit. I've only listened to "Like Water for Chocolate" a couple times now, but it's pretty damn funky too. I'm enjoying the soulquarian sound for now, hoping and assuming that each artist is going to move onto something else soon. You hear the rumbles about D's next album. Black Thought's gonna give us a taste of the nasty with his jawn. My point? Man, it's only been three albums. They're savvy artists--they know they've got to go forward soon. But right now they're working a sound, with great results. It may get a little repetitive, but for the most part I say keep it going.<P>Besides, by the time the Voodoo tour is done, you KNOW they're gonna have something new. Either that, or they're never gonna speak to one another again.<P>Bryan<BR>aim=bshelly24<P>"My restlessness is my nemesis"<BR> ---Mighty Mos

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53. "how i feel about _bigheezy_ [display none]"
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<P><BR>.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................yawn.<P><P><P><P><P><BR>THE SOULQUARIANS<BR>chewy (quest).....jan<BR>luke (d)........feb <BR>lando (jaydee)......feb<BR>cp30 (james poyser).....jan<BR>r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan<BR>hans (chaos)........jan<BR>anakin (lil mike)......feb<P>honorary members:<BR>kelo- soulacorn.......jan<BR>common- soulcies......march<BR>erykah- soulcies......feb<BR>zack- soulicorn.......feb<P>(AFTER SEEING MY PERFORMANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME, MY IDOL STEVE FERRONE EMAILED ME THIS LETTER.....)<P>Opening fill from "person to person". ....... $100.00<BR>Cute fill betwween hi hat, bass drum and snare ....... $1500.00<BR>Horn line from "Love Your Life" ..... $10,000.35<BR>Breakfast with Ferrone.... Gratis<P>The reason you are being charged for the horn line is that it was probably your idea to use it!<P>You da man! Great show! Really nice pocket! Call or e-mail sometime, and take care out there.<BR>818-***-****<P>God Bless,<P>Stephen Ferrone.<BR>

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(the roots present...) 2004
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60. "rage against the soulquarians?"
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feb zack- soulicorn<P>Can I dream that you misspelled Zach de la Rocha's name and he is now a Soulquarian? <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><P>seriously, although i don't hear the similarity between TFA and voodoo as some have stated here, i do hear some similarity b/t voodoo and LWFC, in the sense that the vibe is familiar. i believe they were recorded at similar times.<P>my question to the initial poster is: what exactly is your problem with the two albums?<P>side note: i preferred the drums on LWFC<P>i have to listen to a mastered copy of LWFC, then listen to voodoo again, and return with more detailed commentary.<P>final side note: anyone notice a marked difference b/t jay dee production solo and the ummah? b/c most people act like it's the same when i hear something distinctly different, which i cannot yet describe. listen to the last two tribe albums with slum village's fantastic vol. 2 and help me out, huh, players?<P>Spread love,<P>Spirit<BR>www.theamphibians.com<BR>SUPPORT DEAD PREZ, ALBUM IN STORES NOW!!<P>www.soul-sessions.com<BR>Hip-hop forever...power to the people<P>R.I.P. Filli (Amphibians)<P>"There will be no peace until God sits at the conference table" - Chi-Lites

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spirit
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67. "correction"
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Just realized the folly of comparing the drumming on Voodoo and LWFC...two different genres of music...two different vibes attempted...never mind.

Spread love,

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Hip-hop forever...power to the people

R.I.P. Filli (Amphibians)

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simonhermansen

Wed Mar-22-00 11:48 PM

  
2. "well....."
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I have to say I don´t feel u. I have been in the same situation ( got dissed by practicly EVERYONE at this board), but they(soulquarians) are tight. DÁngelo is the best!!! I don´t really like Common´s albums, but I´m looking forward to "LWFC" ´cause of "dooinit". GREAT track!! But u have ur opinions I´ve got mine. That´s it.<P>much luv from a tru OKPLAYER!!!<P>Simon.

  

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el_rey
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3. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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>don't get me wrong but, brown <BR>>sugar sounded like a debut album <BR>>and was cool for it's time <BR>>but i expected him to step <BR>>it up. songs sound too similar. <BR>>why stick to using the same <BR>>instruments if you can't make those <BR>>instruments sound new or fresh every <BR>>track. <P>uh . . . listen again.<P>this is some serious innovative ish here. Sure D's got a "sound" but who doesn't? Listen again to the tracks. These tracks are as fresh as they come.<BR> <BR>>is the soulquarians mission to make everyone <BR>>sound the same. are tracks on <BR>>lwfc and voodoo not interchangeable? <BR>>do the soulquarians believe they have the <BR>>perfect formula for creating hip-hop soul? <BR>>do the soulquarians believe they have the <BR>>ability to produce the massess? <BR>>or are they just cocky bastards? <P>So what's your beef, dude? Did your daughter have her first sexual experience on D's video or what? What's all the hostility about? Sure, Soulquarians are takin ish over in 2G, but this is a BLESSED EVENT! Drop the negativity and be thankful that this stuff is even happening! If ya can't take listening to it, just go back to listening to Jay-Z's favrite Annie remakes . . .<P><BR>>to <BR>>succesfully produce the massess you have <BR>>to beable to give each artist <BR>>a unique sound. <P>So since you got all the fresh ideas and creativity, get to producin.<P>>i know i'm going to get shit <BR>>on for this because the majority <BR>>of you cats won't listen to <BR>>new ideas that go against the <BR>>grain. i just hope someone will <BR>>listen respectably. you don't have to <BR>>agree just listen. <P>Still waiting for you to say something.<P><P><BR>"We live the now for the promise of the infinite." - Mos Def<P>"If we must die, let it not be like hogs<BR>Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,<BR>While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,<BR>Making their mock at our accursed lot.<BR>If we must die, O let us nobly die<BR>So that our precious blood may not be shed<BR>In vain, then even the monsters we defy<BR>Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!<BR>O kinsmen! We must meet the common foe!<BR>Though far outnumbered let us show us brave,<BR>And for their thousand blows deal one death blow!<BR>What though before us lies the open grave?<BR>Like men we'll face the murderous cowardly pack,<BR>Press to the wall, dying, but fighting back!" -- Claude McKay

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4. "Leat the beat down begin!"
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Well I guess this post is the equivalent of suicide cause they ar going to murder you for this post. I happen to think that D'angelo's alblum is outstanding, but that doesn't mean that I am at all satisfied with the status quo-with the soulaquarians vibe that has been brewing-quest makes a comment in his interview with D about evryone getting together and forming some type of soul "syndicate" and like you I hope that never happens, cause you're going have the "puffy" effect and everything that comes out of this little click will sound the same and we will lose the only real soul music that's being put out. one thing D's alblum does do a good job of is making you ready for the third one.-and to all the other okayplayer out there, have mercy on him for he know's not what he does.<P>"there is no off position on the genius switch!"-David Letterman

  

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5. "back and forth..."
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>i don't want <BR>>to say this but, FUCK A <BR>>SOULQUARIAN <P>>i just hope someone will <BR>>listen respectably. <P>i can't comment on the albums, because i haven't heard common's, but saying "fuck you" and "listen respectfully" in the same breath is some hypocritical bullshit. if you want to be on some insulting shit, that's fine -- but trying to bail out at the end with a little "please respect me" plea is a bitch move (something a homo rapper would do).<P><BR>you better bring me some muthafuckin' cognac or i'll kill you -- supherb<P>words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking -- john maynard keynes

  

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6. "ooooh, dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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how much ya'll wanna bet that quest is gon' respond to this?????!!!

  

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7. "bigcheezy"
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I wasn't gonna respond due to the fact that your post is just another in a long line of bitter hatred that some of the general public chooses to display on this board. But due to the fact that I, fire, really has a problem with idiots, i will do my best to respectfully respond, but with a fuck you under the breath of my words.<P>>i don't know how to say this. <BR>>this is really hard for me <BR>>considering the roots common and d'angelo <BR>>are some of my favorite performers <BR>>of this new hip-hop era. i <BR>>don't know how i can say <BR>>this considering the roots and common <BR>>are two of my biggest influences <BR>>in the hip-hop music i create. <BR>>understand me when i say i <BR>>am an okayplayer, but i'm not <BR>>a dick rider. i don't want <BR>>to say this but, FUCK A <BR>>SOULQUARIAN <P>You saying this is the equivalent of me saying that I love all the songs that the Isleys have made, but Ernie Isley's guitar, just didn't do it for me. If you said, I don't like this one particular song or the image that was set forth at a specific time, fine. But how can you love and hate something/someone at the same time? Oh, I didn't take into consideration SCHIZOPHRENIA! Beyond that I would only say that you either want attention or you're a hater. You make the call.<P><BR>>d'angelo's album-a dissapointment-there were some nice tunes <BR>>don't get me wrong but, brown <BR>>sugar sounded like a debut album <BR>>and was cool for it's time <BR>>but i expected him to step <BR>>it up. songs sound too similar. <P>This is your opinion, clearly. To a TRUE music listener, Voodoo sounds nothing like Brown Sugar. Oh, yes it does IT HAS THE SAME FUCKING SINGER ON IT!!!!!!!! Oh, maybe D should've changed his voice and copped a trinity and a drum machine, that would've been wise.......<P><BR>>why stick to using the same <BR>>instruments if you can't make those <BR>>instruments sound new or fresh every <BR>>track. <P>Have you ever used live instruments? If not, don't even dare ask this question. <P>>common's album better than d'angelo's but still <BR>>was not as innovative as one <BR>>day it will all make sense. <P>How can you compare a rapper to a singer? <P>>still not as unique as one <BR>>day it all makes sense or <BR>>ressurection. <BR>>is the soulquarians mission to make everyone <BR>>sound the same. are tracks on <BR>>lwfc and voodoo not interchangeable? <BR>>do the soulquarians believe they have the <BR>>perfect formula for creating hip-hop soul? <P>They better believe it. If you don't love you who will?<P>><BR>>do the soulquarians believe they have the <BR>>ability to produce the massess? <P>I hope not, no one producer/production team should produce every artist. That would make black music even more copycat than it already is.<P><BR>>or are they just cocky bastards? <P>cocky bastards. Like you?<P>>my veiw is that my mentors are <BR>>running out of creative juices. to <BR>>succesfully produce the massess you have <BR>>to beable to give each artist <BR>>a unique sound. <P>Define unique sound. Cause Jimmy and Terry sound the same, they just tailor the music to fit the artist.<P>>i know i'm going to get shit <BR>>on for this because the majority <BR>>of you cats won't listen to <BR>>new ideas that go against the <BR>>grain. <P>Nope, we won't. We wanna be stick to the same formulas and ideas like the soulquarians. Okayplayer is a cult you know. <P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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_bigheezy_

Thu Mar-23-00 07:19 AM

  
12. "come on now."
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schizophranic? crying for attention? hater?<P>i love the soulquarians sound initially, but after hearing things fall apart, lwfc, and voodoo i hate the repetition. i know that they have the talent to make every album they work on sound fresh. quest did it four times with the roots. where did his creativity go? i shouldn't just blame quest maybe i should blame the vocalist for wanting a similar sound. like people want that classic premier sound.<P>"a TRUE music listener..." -fire<BR>okay my point wasn't very clear. brown sugar and voodoo do not sound alike and that is not was saying. my point was the voodoo album did not take it to height of its potential. it was funky. no doubt, but i had to force my self to listen to the whole album without skipping tracks. the similarities of bass lines and guitar riffs bored me. now george clinton was funky and he new how to make songs fresh i doubt it was too many people saying "aww that p-funk shit is boring"<P>"have you every used a live instument?"-fire<P>no, don't know how to play any istrument i can't even play the triangle. are you telling me because i can't play an instrument i can't comment on how music sounds it's alot of people out there who diss swizz beats who don't know how to make a track but i bet you don't complain about that. i listen to alot of music and know the potential of a guitar. a guitar don't have to go blink blink BLINK BLIKN blink BLINK blink blink on every song. that i don't see you doing any better argument is bullshit. you don't know my potential. i could be the next jimmy hendrix for all you know. the next michael jackson. but since i don't have my own videos or web site you don't think my oppinion is valid.<P>of course, i just want attention. no, you know something your completely right i'm a hater despite my roots collection, my love for common's flow and lyrics, the number of times i've seen common and the roots perform. <BR>the people who seem to be dying for attention are the people that post shit like "how sexy is common?" "happybirthday common!" "the roots the greatest band to every live!" "they won oh my god!the world has finally seen the light!" fuck that. i'm trying to have conversation and if you read the other post would see that there are people who agree with me. so my oppinion must not be so far fetched. YOU SUCKAAAAAAAAaaaaa....<P>-naeem j.<P><BR>

  

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bshelly
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8. "Uhhh..."
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<BR>Everybody on this post knows I respect them, so don't get all insecure.<P>File this under "Pot calling the kettle" or "Let s/he who is without sin." A lot of people who have been with okayplayer from the jump complain nowadays that people are disrespectful and vulgar on the boards. Yet as soon as someone posts a little bit of ignorance in their tone, people are screaming out fuck yous and writing him off. <P>Bigheezy's original post was a little harsh, but is that a reason to continue the trend? Can we get some turning of the other cheek going on here? It's not like he's without a point. The beats on Common's album sound like they came from the same guys who worked on Voodoo. As I said before, I don't find that particularly distressing, but it's a valid point. "Like Water for Chocolate" is dope, just not all that innovative. And just because someone offers a criticism of his/your/my/our heroes (however unfortunate the tone) is no reason to try to silence him with insults.<P>Bryan<BR>aim=bshelly24<P>"My restlessness is my nemesis"<BR> ---Mighty Mos

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LeroyBumpkin
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9. "I agree w/ BShelly"
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Okayplayers--<P>Yes, it's frustrating to see someone diss or talk bad about something you care about (trust me, it happens enough in photography), but that's when you move on. I think we can argue the point without saying someone is COCKY or IGNORANT. When "VooDoo" first came out, I had people complaining left and right (excuse the pun). I just told them to listen to it again. I found out that you can't waste your time trying to convert people to your opinion. Just be happy that YOU like it, and be happy with it. Later.<P>--leroy b.<BR>________________________________________<BR>DONNIE'S GROUNDED! Beginning April 1st, no more posts, replying or lurking for a month.

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10. "Guess what ya'll?"
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Just like the big cheez, my opionion is totally biased and myopic. He asked for a reply I gave him my reply. <P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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11. "*givin a pound*"
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Word! He brought it on himself, spewing all that bile and venom. Talk some ish like that an guess what: you get a cyber-beatdown! <P>Okayplayer: it ain't no happy fizzies party.<P>love and respect,<BR>El Rey<P><BR>"We live the now for the promise of the infinite." - Mos Def<P>"If we must die, let it not be like hogs<BR>Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,<BR>While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,<BR>Making their mock at our accursed lot.<BR>If we must die, O let us nobly die<BR>So that our precious blood may not be shed<BR>In vain, then even the monsters we defy<BR>Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!<BR>O kinsmen! We must meet the common foe!<BR>Though far outnumbered let us show us brave,<BR>And for their thousand blows deal one death blow!<BR>What though before us lies the open grave?<BR>Like men we'll face the murderous cowardly pack,<BR>Press to the wall, dying, but fighting back!" -- Claude McKay

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15. "that's the problem right there"
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Wjy must we all have the same opinion or else?? He doesn't like the album...so be it! Why must heads come outta pocket every time they feel someone's not particularly fond of the ROOTS,D'Angelo,etc?? This grade school "imma-scream-on-you-if-you-don't-like-the-same-group-of-people-I-do" mentality sucks ass for real y'all!! <P>Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P><a href="http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html<;/a> - read 'em! Makes life easier 'round here man! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Rarely is the question asked: *Is* our children learning?" — George W. Bush, whatta dumbazz! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>AOL-im: nostrilz / ICQ: 4012309 / MSNmessenger: Re_Alief<BR>_____<BR>Sugah ( aka Suki SULI...my Booby! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> ):<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth" target="_blank">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth<;/a> <BR><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli<;/a><BR>____<BR>YaYa (AutNoyz) ok,player?<BR><a href="Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html" target="_blank">Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html<;/a><BR>___<BR>HaK: <a href="http://www.h8r.com" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm<;/a><P> D'Angelo <BR> Voodoo <BR> <BR>Forget the Prince and Marvin stuff—this deeply brave and pretentious record signifies like a cross between lesser Tricky and Sly's Riot Goin' On. Accepting his deficiencies in the tune-and-hook department, he leads from strength, a feel for bass more disquieting than bootalicious. His lyrical focus is the social as spiritual, which he ponders honestly and seriously and sometimes bravely, as on the unjudgmental, unsentimental "The Line," in which a young black man lays out the reasons he's ready to die—leaving the listener to wonder why the fuck he should have to think about it. So the pecs and pubes of the video are a feint, one of many; although the music can be sexy and funky and fun and woman-centered, that's just part of the sonic concept. Which is unique. Play it five years from now, when the follow-up comes out, and you'll recognize it instantly. <P>A MINUS <BR> CONSUMER GUIDE<BR> BY ROBERT CHRISTGAU<BR> Village Voice<P>D'Angelo NYC concert review - <a href="http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml" target="_blank">http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml<;/a><P><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/<;/a>

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DarlingNikki
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16. "I agree totally"
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Just because he has a difference of opinion, why must he be called names? What is up with the mean overtones on this board? A person cant critice (sp?)something without everyone getting there panties/boxers all in a bunch?!! Ya'll seriously need to chill. I love Okayplayer, come on here everyday. But after seeing the way that people have jumped down others throats on this board because of a difference of opinion, I can see why some people call the place a cult. <P>Damn, just chill...it will be allright!!!<P>We lie about our hair and we know we got a weave.. "Lies" by EnVogue

  

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19. "oh for DAWG's sakes!"
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First of all, its all fun, fam! Sheet we just cheezin' up in here. Second, I shouldnt'a even had to say that. Third, I don't care if you think the Roots are the worst group to ever grace us with their music. The point is that the kat that started the thread came off with all this hostility and sarcasm to begin with. What'chu throw out to the universe will always come back, n/m?<P>For real, I'm not tryin to clown ANYBODY that didn't come with an attitude first.<P>love and respect,<BR>El Rey<P><BR>"We live the now for the promise of the infinite." - Mos Def<P>"If we must die, let it not be like hogs<BR>Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,<BR>While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,<BR>Making their mock at our accursed lot.<BR>If we must die, O let us nobly die<BR>So that our precious blood may not be shed<BR>In vain, then even the monsters we defy<BR>Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!<BR>O kinsmen! We must meet the common foe!<BR>Though far outnumbered let us show us brave,<BR>And for their thousand blows deal one death blow!<BR>What though before us lies the open grave?<BR>Like men we'll face the murderous cowardly pack,<BR>Press to the wall, dying, but fighting back!" -- Claude McKay

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20. "Elrey?"
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You are not allowed to defend anything, it's against the cult rules.<P><img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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30. "Ooooops"
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Hey you're right . . .<P>FUCK ALL Y'ALL!<P>there. I feel better now. Thanks again twin sis.<P>love and respect,<BR>El Rey<P><BR>"We live the now for the promise of the infinite." - Mos Def<P>"If we must die, let it not be like hogs<BR>Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,<BR>While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,<BR>Making their mock at our accursed lot.<BR>If we must die, O let us nobly die<BR>So that our precious blood may not be shed<BR>In vain, then even the monsters we defy<BR>Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!<BR>O kinsmen! We must meet the common foe!<BR>Though far outnumbered let us show us brave,<BR>And for their thousand blows deal one death blow!<BR>What though before us lies the open grave?<BR>Like men we'll face the murderous cowardly pack,<BR>Press to the wall, dying, but fighting back!" -- Claude McKay

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45. "No offense taken"
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Just bringing up what I thought was a good point. I can respond without being irate... The cult leader has not programmed my mind that much yet. (Before you get upset, the reference to a cult was a joke!!)<P><BR>We lie about our hair and we know we got a weave.. "Lies" by EnVogue

  

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37. "Oooooooooooops"
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Oh alright . . .<P>My previous post responding to you was deleted due to extreme and extrodinary profanity. I'll try to comply to the Okayrules.<P>*clearing throat*<P>*bleep* ALL Y'ALL!<P>there. I feel much better now. See noone got hurt and I didn't get too defensive.<P>love and respect,<BR>El Rey<P><BR>"We live the now for the promise of the infinite." - Mos Def<P>"If we must die, let it not be like hogs<BR>Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,<BR>While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,<BR>Making their mock at our accursed lot.<BR>If we must die, O let us nobly die<BR>So that our precious blood may not be shed<BR>In vain, then even the monsters we defy<BR>Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!<BR>O kinsmen! We must meet the common foe!<BR>Though far outnumbered let us show us brave,<BR>And for their thousand blows deal one death blow!<BR>What though before us lies the open grave?<BR>Like men we'll face the murderous cowardly pack,<BR>Press to the wall, dying, but fighting back!" -- Claude McKay

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71. "HATERS UNITE!!!"
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i like all the albums and i disagree, but i do love ppl w/ differing opinions. btw, r we haters cuz there's something we don't like??? yeah, i got that from com. oh yeah, is okp gonna kill erybody like that cult in uganda? just curious....

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35. "bow wow wow"
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"The point is that the kat that started the thread came off with all this hostility and sarcasm to begin with."<P>Maybe, but he (kinda) came "with all this hostility" towards the SoulQuarians, not you dawg! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> I didn't see him dissing YOU anywhere in his posts!!<P>"What'chu throw out to the universe will always come back, n/m?"<BR>What does that say about YOU then? You coming at the cat like he dissed a family member of yours yo!<P>Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P><a href="http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html<;/a> - read 'em! Makes life easier 'round here man! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Rarely is the question asked: *Is* our children learning?" — George W. Bush, whatta dumbazz! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>AOL-im: nostrilz / ICQ: 4012309 / MSNmessenger: Re_Alief<BR>_____<BR>Sugah ( aka Suki SULI...my Booby! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> ):<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth" target="_blank">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth<;/a> <BR><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli<;/a><BR>____<BR>YaYa (AutNoyz) ok,player?<BR><a href="Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html" target="_blank">Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html<;/a><BR>___<BR>HaK: <a href="http://www.h8r.com" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm<;/a><P> D'Angelo <BR> Voodoo <BR> <BR>Forget the Prince and Marvin stuff—this deeply brave and pretentious record signifies like a cross between lesser Tricky and Sly's Riot Goin' On. Accepting his deficiencies in the tune-and-hook department, he leads from strength, a feel for bass more disquieting than bootalicious. His lyrical focus is the social as spiritual, which he ponders honestly and seriously and sometimes bravely, as on the unjudgmental, unsentimental "The Line," in which a young black man lays out the reasons he's ready to die—leaving the listener to wonder why the fuck he should have to think about it. So the pecs and pubes of the video are a feint, one of many; although the music can be sexy and funky and fun and woman-centered, that's just part of the sonic concept. Which is unique. Play it five years from now, when the follow-up comes out, and you'll recognize it instantly. <P>A MINUS <BR> CONSUMER GUIDE<BR> BY ROBERT CHRISTGAU<BR> Village Voice<P>D'Angelo NYC concert review - <a href="http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml" target="_blank">http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml<;/a><P><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/<;/a>

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SheRise

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59. "okayconformity..."
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I know this is a lil off the subject but I come to okp to hear a difference of opinion. Since when did liking every thing an okp artist does become a requirement for membership. I think if we all shared the same opinion this would be a very boring forum and I wouldn't come here. Most of the people who post regularly have utterd a effa this or effa that at one time or another, so I dont understand that as a basis for conviction. Really it took a lotta balls go aginst the grain and say that he didnt like the soulquarian cus I'm quite sure he knew that he would get many people in an uproar...and isn't that what this site is about... getting away from the masses who don't make waves and all think a like. Attacking people with differnt opinions will only promote okayconformity, which I have noted to be a growing trend on the boards, and we will become the mindless mass that we abhor so much. <BR>Instead of saying "your stupid or you ignorant because you dont like the same thing I like" try "I like the soulquarians because..." <BR>--------------------------------------------------<BR>excuse any misspelling or incomplete sentences I dont type well at 1:30am

  

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65. "Couldn't have said it better myself n/m"
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_bigheezy_

Thu Mar-23-00 07:31 AM

  
14. "what what WHAT!"
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my oppinion wasn't biased. i read everything people say with a somewhat open mind. and with the right reply people can change my mind. my mind was somewhat changed after i posted "is common's album really that good?"<P>oh yeah, "bigcheezy" not funny the first time less funny the second.<P>-naeem j.

  

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_bigheezy_

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13. "bshelly"
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you are awsome, bshelly, awsome. and i was harsh but for comedic purposes. "FUCK A SOULQUARIANS" i thought was funny, but my jokes come straight from the south park movie which offended a few people. lighten up. i laugh at some of the disses directed toward me.<P>-naeem j.

  

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17. "Biggy?"
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don't get me wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. But your choice of words were "questionable". If you wanted to be coddled I don't think that you would've posted with the title or paragraph that you did. I gave you MY opionion, just like you gave yours.<P>Sarcasm is a strong point around these parts. Don't take anything I say to heart. <P>Thank you and have A soulquarianless day!<P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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18. "hot damn ho here we go again (not callin anybody a ho)"
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Kil

Thu Mar-23-00 08:51 AM

  
21. "&quot;Just got my official &quot;LWFC&quot;....."
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Just got my advanced copy of "LWFC" from MCA records (sorry, don't have a receipt to prove it, guess you'll have to take my word) and umm...I'm with you fam. The Soulquarians are getting kinda repetitive. I heard they were working on Com's and D's album at the same time so maybe that's why they go hand and hand. Quest said "Chicken grease" was suppose to be on Com's album which is scary that a r&b track for D was suppose to be on Com's album but it seems after reading the tracking list, that Jay Dee produced the bulk of this album. He did 9 out of the 16 tracks. In Quest's review of "LWFC" he said he thought Com deep down inside wants to be a soul singer, so maybe this is the intro to "Com...the soul singer." And about the sequencing of the album...I heard the bootleg copy of the album and I felt like that sequencing was better then the final version. (just saying that cuz Quest said he didn't like the sequencing on One Day) But hey...that's just me. I think Com would've done better sticking with NO ID and Doug Inf but again that's just my opinion. I guess I just like those sampled SP/MPC drums versus Quest live drums. Just me but my favorite Roots album was "Illadelph" for the simple fact they were sampling. Whether it be sampling Quest's drums or whatever. Illadelph was SO much harder than "Do You Want More" and I guess I just like "HARD" beats. But if Com wants to be a soul singer, "LWFC" was the perfect start.

  

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31. "ohhhhh...KIL!"
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They gonna wanna crewcify ya azz! LOL <P>Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P><a href="http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html<;/a> - read 'em! Makes life easier 'round here man! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Rarely is the question asked: *Is* our children learning?" — George W. Bush, whatta dumbazz! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>AOL-im: nostrilz / ICQ: 4012309 / MSNmessenger: Re_Alief<BR>_____<BR>Sugah ( aka Suki SULI...my Booby! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> ):<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth" target="_blank">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth<;/a> <BR><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli<;/a><BR>____<BR>YaYa (AutNoyz) ok,player?<BR><a href="Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html" target="_blank">Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html<;/a><BR>___<BR>HaK: <a href="http://www.h8r.com" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm<;/a><P> D'Angelo <BR> Voodoo <BR> <BR>Forget the Prince and Marvin stuff—this deeply brave and pretentious record signifies like a cross between lesser Tricky and Sly's Riot Goin' On. Accepting his deficiencies in the tune-and-hook department, he leads from strength, a feel for bass more disquieting than bootalicious. His lyrical focus is the social as spiritual, which he ponders honestly and seriously and sometimes bravely, as on the unjudgmental, unsentimental "The Line," in which a young black man lays out the reasons he's ready to die—leaving the listener to wonder why the fuck he should have to think about it. So the pecs and pubes of the video are a feint, one of many; although the music can be sexy and funky and fun and woman-centered, that's just part of the sonic concept. Which is unique. Play it five years from now, when the follow-up comes out, and you'll recognize it instantly. <P>A MINUS <BR> CONSUMER GUIDE<BR> BY ROBERT CHRISTGAU<BR> Village Voice<P>D'Angelo NYC concert review - <a href="http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml" target="_blank">http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml<;/a><P><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/<;/a>

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48. "Lets tie Kil to a post and throw darts at him!!! n/m"
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We lie about our hair and we know we got a weave.. "Lies" by EnVogue

  

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DarlingNikki
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49. "Lets tie Kil to a post and throw darts at him!!! n/m"
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We lie about our hair and we know we got a weave.. "Lies" by EnVogue

  

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fire
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51. "No Nikki"
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Let's make him walk through Philly with a cross on his back. When he gets to City Hall, we can then proceed to nail him to it! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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47. "why are you even on this website? n/m"
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"I'm on my own jock still, cuz if I don't say I'm the best tell me who the hell will." - Phife Dog<P>"What I say is the gospel!" - Triple H.<P>"One's for the money, Two's for the show, Three's for the ladies, but all they wanted was One." - Ras Kass<P>"Hip-hop to me is like an underground railroad, and it was always at its most potent and most effective when it was underground." - D'Angelo<P>

  

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52. "why are you?? n/m"
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Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P><a href="http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html<;/a> - read 'em! Makes life easier 'round here man! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Rarely is the question asked: *Is* our children learning?" — George W. Bush, whatta dumbazz! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>AOL-im: nostrilz / ICQ: 4012309 / MSNmessenger: Re_Alief<BR>_____<BR>Sugah ( aka Suki SULI...my Booby! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> ):<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth" target="_blank">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth<;/a> <BR><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli<;/a><BR>____<BR>YaYa (AutNoyz) ok,player?<BR><a href="Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html" target="_blank">Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html<;/a><BR>___<BR>HaK: <a href="http://www.h8r.com" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm<;/a><P> D'Angelo <BR> Voodoo <BR> <BR>Forget the Prince and Marvin stuff—this deeply brave and pretentious record signifies like a cross between lesser Tricky and Sly's Riot Goin' On. Accepting his deficiencies in the tune-and-hook department, he leads from strength, a feel for bass more disquieting than bootalicious. His lyrical focus is the social as spiritual, which he ponders honestly and seriously and sometimes bravely, as on the unjudgmental, unsentimental "The Line," in which a young black man lays out the reasons he's ready to die—leaving the listener to wonder why the fuck he should have to think about it. So the pecs and pubes of the video are a feint, one of many; although the music can be sexy and funky and fun and woman-centered, that's just part of the sonic concept. Which is unique. Play it five years from now, when the follow-up comes out, and you'll recognize it instantly. <P>A MINUS <BR> CONSUMER GUIDE<BR> BY ROBERT CHRISTGAU<BR> Village Voice<P>D'Angelo NYC concert review - <a href="http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml" target="_blank">http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml<;/a><P><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/<;/a>

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22. "I disagree with all of you..."
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Ferris Bueler is one of my all time favorite movies. To call it "cliche" is entirely missing the point. High school life IS a big cliche, everything about it. You can either get wrapped up in the pointlessness or you can get a head start and begin figuring out who you really are, what you can really do, and really begin to REALLY enjoy it. It's about being able to get away with as much as you can BECAUSE you can.<P>And the argument that just becuase John Hues went on to do Home Alone means his past achievements are any less IS SIMPLY PREPOSTEROUS! Listen to _bigheezy_ and what he is saying, not how he is saying it. So much confusion is in the world because people pay too much attention to HOW something is being said instead of WHAT they're saying. When it comes down to it everybody, no matter what your beliefs religiously are, want the exact same things out of life, we all just ask differently. --Just because what Steivie is doing now dwarfs in comparison to his past work doesn't make his past work any less. Same for Mr. Hues.<P>GO BACK AND WATCH FERRIS BUELER AND BREAKFAST CLUB WITHOUT THINKING OF HOME ALONE AND BABY'S DAY OUT, and get off the drugs.<P>Love,<BR>ToeJam

  

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24. "......fire laughing uncontrollably .........."
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asking Toejam: What the fuck are you talking about?<P>.....fire continuing the enjoyment of lunacy......<P><img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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23. "uhm..."
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>understand me when i say i <BR>>am an okayplayer, but i'm not <BR>>a dick rider. i don't want <BR>>to say this but, FUCK A <BR>>SOULQUARIAN <BR>><BR>ditto - i to could care less about another man's phallus, and the only thing that makes me an okayplayer is that other's refer to me as such. so i understand your point. however, sarcasm doesn't translate over the internet at all. just an fyi for future reference.<P>>but i expected him to step <BR>>it up. songs sound too similar. <BR>><BR>we'll have to agree to disagree. i disagree with this. i feel this is a tremendous step above bs, i didn't even appreciate bs until i heard voodoo. i mean, i listened, but it wasn't like i cared that much until this new sound.<P>>why stick to using the same <BR>>instruments if you can't make those <BR>>instruments sound new or fresh every <BR>>track. <BR>><BR>that's a very weird statement dude. uhm, are you being sarcastic? or uhm, please explain a little more, i'm needing more info for any intelligent discourse to take place.<P>>do the soulquarians believe they have the <BR>>perfect formula for creating hip-hop soul? <BR>><BR>i believe that when i have explosive diarrhea, and can't make it to the toilet, while it flies from my ass and splatters against whatever 2 or 3 level objects are in the area, that it is reminscent of the paintings of the sisteen chapel. but maybe i'm just on my own dick. who knows? point being - perfect formula? their is nuff info on this site (not even the boards) as to how the soulquarians feel about their production. shit, some of it is in text and can be copied and pasted into e-mail to help you out. not dissing you, but is this just another shot, or an ignorant rhetorical barb? i just want to know where you are coming from?<P>>do the soulquarians believe they have the <BR>>ability to produce the massess? <BR>><BR>produce the masses - as in have lots and lots of babies? that would be cool - like little quest babies - d' babies and common babies. it would be like the muppet babies and shit. little plush dolls and shit. yo, can we get some of these in the okaystore?<P>>or are they just cocky bastards? <BR>><BR>da fuck is wrong with being cocky? da fuck is wrong with being a bastard?<P>>to <BR>>succesfully produce the massess you have <BR>>to beable to give each artist <BR>>a unique sound. <BR>><BR>i believe that they do not mean to capture the masses. merely perfect a sound. get it to it's fullest. kinda like how jordan was great at the fadeaway jumper from the right (and left) side of the baseline after a few backdown dribbles. sure he did it thousands of times, but wasn't it just brilliant to watch? <P>i don't think their aim is the masses...imnsho.<P>>i know i'm going to get shit i just hope someone will listen respectably. you don't have to agree just listen. <BR>><BR>uhm, stop dissin' in the begining and just make your points. sarcasm has no place in intellectual debate. none at all. i like the fact that you have this opinion of yours, and am willing to discuss it. sorry that i haven't participated in the common debates, or addressed your common critique. i haven't had the pleasure of traveling to mar 28th in my time machine. however, i'm sure that it will be "hot shit" and we can discuss it then.<P>i await your response.<P>_______________________________________<BR>gray matters!

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25. "I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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I swear, I think fighting is beneath me, but I would break a Heineken bottle off on the edge of a bar and go to the hospital trying to hurt someone for you. You're so worth it.<P>AND WHAT, YEAH I RIDE BFNH'S DICK, CAUSE HE DESERVES IT! DON'T LIKE IT, SO WHAT!<P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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38. "fasten ya seat-belt! HEHE! n/m"
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jus playing...JUS PLAYIN'!<P>Peace2U,<BR>Re Alief<P>"it's cooooooommmedy!" - Talent<P><a href="http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines.html<;/a> - read 'em! Makes life easier 'round here man! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Rarely is the question asked: *Is* our children learning?" — George W. Bush, whatta dumbazz! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>AOL-im: nostrilz / ICQ: 4012309 / MSNmessenger: Re_Alief<BR>_____<BR>Sugah ( aka Suki SULI...my Booby! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> ):<BR><a href="http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth" target="_blank">http://www.rhapsodyinblack.com/98Summer/ea.html#HeavenonEarth<;/a> <BR><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Members/MyPage/viewpage.html?MEMBER=SukiSuli<;/a><BR>____<BR>YaYa (AutNoyz) ok,player?<BR><a href="Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html" target="_blank">Http://www.mp3.com/artists/60/autnoyz.html<;/a><BR>___<BR>HaK: <a href="http://www.h8r.com" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm" target="_blank">http://www.h8r.com/mtv/form.htm<;/a><P> D'Angelo <BR> Voodoo <BR> <BR>Forget the Prince and Marvin stuff—this deeply brave and pretentious record signifies like a cross between lesser Tricky and Sly's Riot Goin' On. Accepting his deficiencies in the tune-and-hook department, he leads from strength, a feel for bass more disquieting than bootalicious. His lyrical focus is the social as spiritual, which he ponders honestly and seriously and sometimes bravely, as on the unjudgmental, unsentimental "The Line," in which a young black man lays out the reasons he's ready to die—leaving the listener to wonder why the fuck he should have to think about it. So the pecs and pubes of the video are a feint, one of many; although the music can be sexy and funky and fun and woman-centered, that's just part of the sonic concept. Which is unique. Play it five years from now, when the follow-up comes out, and you'll recognize it instantly. <P>A MINUS <BR> CONSUMER GUIDE<BR> BY ROBERT CHRISTGAU<BR> Village Voice<P>D'Angelo NYC concert review - <a href="http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml" target="_blank">http://villagevoice.com/issues/0012/sotc.shtml<;/a><P><a href="http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/" target="_blank">http://www.BlackPlanet.com/Referrals/Re_Alief/<;/a>

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26. "great answer"
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>i believe that they do not mean to capture the masses. merely perfect a sound. get it to it's fullest. kinda like how jordan was great at the fadeaway jumper from the right(and left) side of the baseline after a few backdown dribbles. sure he did it thousands of times, but wasn't it just brilliant to watch? <P>what i woulda wrote exactly...<P><BR>"Well, I like to eat, sleep, drink, and be in love.<BR>I like to work, read, learn, and understand life." - Langston Hughes "Theme for English B"

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50. "Thanks..."
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...bfnh for a smart and funny response.<P>We lie about our hair and we know we got a weave.. "Lies" by EnVogue

  

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JDET313

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27. "To quote DMX:"
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"NIGGAS DONE STARTED SOMETHING!!" I cant stand when motherfuckers think because u like someones music, or their style, u have to be a dickrider.<BR>So, i'm gonna go out and say ANYBODY that isnt a "dickrider" must be somebody just out to get attention or someone "important" to respond to them. Because in my mind, i find in NO WAY "One Day" to be a third as inovating as the intro on "Like Water For Chocolate"! What was so innovating? (Not meant as a diss to anyone) The generic Roots joint "All Night".. the sloppy De La joint? Please name one thing on that album that u have never heard before. To be continued..

  

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Kil

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28. "&quot;Innovation?&quot;"
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How about a song dealing with abortion? Or a song dealing with a three part mystery? Innovation...that word is used SO freely nowadays because there's not enough good music on the airwaves. What do you like so much about "Time Travelin" (since that's the album's intro) The live instruments? you got that with D's album right? What's SO innovative on "LWFC"? Anything that was done on "LWFC" was done on ALL three Roots album! Com's voice going in and out with a slight distortion..you can go back to 95 to "DYWM" and find that. "Payback is a grandmother" is just another instalment in the Stolen Moments series. the questions reminds me of "Let's Get it On" off of the Love Movement when Tip was asking all the questions to the short. A Film Called Pimp is nothing more that a revisit to "I'm Not Havin It with Mc Lyte back in '89 (just with a pimp and ho feel to it) SO again, I ask you....what is SO innovative about "LWFC"?

  

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33. "Innovation Part II"
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you know what's innovative, IMO? Creating some shit that you think is so much better, putting it out, then being able to shat on someone elses' innovation. Show me or make an album, using the same level of instrumentation of LWFC, Voodoo, or anything else that the "soulquarians" have. Until then this argument has no value except for, "i don't like it cause they are getting all the attention that they deserve." Do you see what I'm getting at? Stevie Wonder's shit, sounds like Stevie Wonder's shit. The man has been making music for 40 years and he still "sounds" the same to me. Underdig? <P>You know what? I'm not gonna argue anymore cause I haven't heard LWFC, but I have heard Voodoo and it's absolutely perfect. <P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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Kil

Thu Mar-23-00 10:10 AM

  
36. "&quot;Let me get this straight...&quot;"
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Innovation has to due with live instrumentation? See innovation to me is when Pete Rock showed the world how to use the multi pitch (a button that had been on the SP for years) to echo horns in or out. Innovation is Pete showing us that we could chop drums instead of using full break beats. Primo showing us to chop samples and replay them. Or how the beatminerz showed the world that you can filter a sample to create a bassline. Innovation for ME means doing something that's never been done before, or showing us another way to do it. There's a BIG difference to me between innovation and a good idea. Puff having Mary sing over hip hop beats was a good idea (that Ron G had been doing on his mix tapes) but not innovated ya feel me? Yeah, Voodoo is GREAT but Voodoo is soul music, Common is hip hop, and please don't do the whole "...but it's all black music"! Yeah that's true but that 's why we have different genres of black muisc. Like I said before I couldn't even imagine Chicken Grease being on "LWFC"...but that's just me. voodoo was innovative to me because it seems like you were present on the live jam session. The majority of heads don't like it for that reason but when' the last time that's been done? When I listen to voodoo it takes me back to Stevie's "Inner Visions" but "LWFC" to me is like a "hip hop" follow to Voodoo, but innovated? Like I said anything that was done on "LWFC" has been done by the Roots numerous times so I just don't feel you, but it's all good Fire.

  

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39. "I know it's all good cause......"
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>See innovation to me is when <BR>>Pete Rock showed the world how <BR>>to use the multi pitch (a <BR>>button that had been on the <BR>>SP for years) to echo horns <BR>>in or out. Innovation is Pete <BR>>showing us that we could chop <BR>>drums instead of using full break <BR>>beats. <P>Pete Rock, the innovator in question was not using one ounce of live instruments. He may have sampled an instrument, but he didnt' play it himself. Hmmmm, I guess sampling is better than the real shit in an electronic age.<P>Primo showing us to chop <BR>>samples and replay them. Or how <BR>>the beatminerz showed the world that <BR>>you can filter a sample to <BR>>create a bassline. <P>Once again, samples of real live instruments.<P>Innovation for ME <BR>>means doing something that's never been <BR>>done before, or showing us another <BR>>way to do it. <P>Why can't Common's album just be good without the "innovation" that you so desperately need? <P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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Kil

Thu Mar-23-00 10:51 AM

  
43. "&quot;Fire you're the coolest...&quot;"
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So, guess in this day in age, the only innovation is live music...that's cool so...you don't like hip hop besides the Roots and Common? That's...cool, but whether it's live instruments or not, the shit these producers do with sampling is crazy innovative, sorry if you don't agree.

  

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44. "No, no no"
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I fucking love electronic sounds, but I love live instruments even more. Nothing personal, just my preference. But, I will say this, I have alot more respect for people that play instruments. I played the piano for six years when I was young, but I'm not good at it. My older sister? She is a prodigy, she just didn't pursue it. So, I apologize for making it seem like I hate synthesizers, I don't. I think you don't realize the difference between the real and the unreal. <P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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46. "Not synthesizers"
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but really I mean drum machines.<P>BTW, you need to go see the Voodoo tour. Quest gets loose on the drums. There is something about a live drum that just can't be captured by a drum machine. <P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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61. "Pete Rock DOES play live instruments"
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He plays Rhodes and piano on a few tracks.<P>krewcial<BR><a href="http://urgent.rug.ac.be/vinylators" target="_blank">http://urgent.rug.ac.be/vinylators<;/a><P>'We've got to change our own minds about each other. We have to see each other with new eyes. We have to see each other as brothers and sisters. We have to come together with warmth'<BR>

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68. "RE: Not synthesizers"
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>BTW, you need to go see
>the Voodoo tour. Quest
>gets loose on the drums.
> There is something about
>a live drum that just
>can't be captured by a
>drum machine.

And there are some things you can do on a drum machine that a live drummer can't do (because you have ten fingers to hit drum machine buttons, each holding a different sound, while drummers only have two sticks and a foot petal ).

I don't know...both acoustic instruments and electronic instruments both require a high level of skill to master...why get into this debate? it's all music. how could you have a preference over the form of instrumentation when it's all organized noise? the best music is the best composition of random sounds...where the sounds originate from seems moot to me in one's enjoyment of the final composition.

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29. "man"
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well, lwfc must really be good. i just started buying hip-hop within the past year, lauryn being my first rapper i bought. i am a soulhead, so i guess i probably would like lwfc. shoot, these replies make me want to get the album tuesday. peace and blessings.

  

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34. "cocoa brother?"
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I think you're being sarcastic, and it's funny as hell!<P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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32. "heads..."
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are so insistent on proclaiming that they aren't "dickriders", but lately that's been the subject of the "majority" of posts...this is a fan-based site for the umpteenth time!...the majority of us okayplayers (dickriders) who post eff with the soulquarian sound...not because we adore d'angelo's braids, common's gear, or quest's afro... not because d'angelo, common, and quest dig the music, but because WE eff with the music!...that's our right, just like you have the right not to...however, it's already been put out there (on numerous occasions) that some niggas don't feel things fall apart, voodoo, lwfc, or the soulquarian sound in general...whose to say that you're not "dickriding" all of the previous cats that have posted about it before you?...besides looking at concert reviews, i haven't seen a post on how "nice" that sound is in a minute!

  

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40. "&quot;It doesn't sound fresh&quot;"
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I'll get right into it:<P>>d'angelo's album-a dissapointment-there were >some nice tunes don't get me wrong but, brown >sugar sounded like a debut album and was cool >for it's time but i expected him to step it up. >songs sound too similar. why stick to using the >same instruments if you can't make those >instruments sound new or fresh every track.<P>I've heard several people say Voodoo is Brown Sugar #2.... I honestly can't see how ANYONE could draw up this comparison. Voodoo is on a whole different level from Brown Sugar. Whether you like Voodoo's direction or not is one thing, but to say it's just another Brown Sugar makes no sense to me. Personally, I think Voodoo is absolutely outstanding, like nothing I've heard in a long time. Since the day I bought it, it's been played at least once a day in its entirety... I honestly don't think I've skipped a day. And I probably won't for a long time.<P>>common's album better than d'angelo's but still >was not as innovative as one day it will all >make sense. still not as unique as one day it >all makes sense or ressurection.<P>Haven't heard LWFC... I don't think music always has to be 'innovative'. Good music is good music, regardless of whether it's been done before. I think their only goal is to create solid music... and they're doing it.<P>>is the soulquarians mission to make everyone >sound the same. are tracks on lwfc and voodoo >not interchangeable? <P>If LWFC sounds like Voodoo... I'll be damn happy. When the last track on Voodoo ends, and that quick reverse tour through the album begins, I can't help but wish for more. If Common cures that desire, I'll kiss his feet.<P>>do the soulquarians believe they have the >perfect formula for creating hip-hop soul?<P>I don't think so. I DO think they think they're putting out good shit, and they're milking their current groove. I give them props for it, too.<P>>or are they just cocky bastards?<BR>Um... quite honestly, they could be cocky and I wouldn't care. I don't know 'em, though, so I can't quite comment.<P>>my veiw is that my mentors are running out of >creative juices. to succesfully produce the >massess you have to beable to give each artist a >unique sound.<P>Not true. Man, while reinventing your sound is cool, so is playing shit for the sake of playing. Because it's simply good. Why is everyone on some 'it doesn't sound fresh' shit? <P>>i just hope someone will listen respectably. you >don't have to agree just listen.<BR> <BR>I listened. I disagree. But I respect your opinion. I think you should wait a year and see what else happens with 'em. Catch the D' Tour. Work with the sound. <P>-thebigfunk<P>"Grownups have it in them to be creative, and sometimes, with the help of ambition, hard work, and a bit of luck they actually are, but being grownups, they have no sooner created some epoch-making invention than they become a slave to it." - The Tin Drum

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41. "Cheez Beatz don't sound fresh"
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mostly everything on "black radio" doesn't sound fresh. I am just happy to hear people playing real live instruments again. That's all the freshness I need.<P>WHY HAVEN'T YOU LEARNED ANYTHING!!!!!! - Dead Prez<P>GET CRUNK!<P>I AM BLACK MUSIC <P>"In the name of love and war<BR>took my shield and sword<BR>from the pit of the bottom<BR>that knows no floor<BR>Like the rain to the dirt<BR>Like the vine to the wine<BR>From the alpha creation<BR>Till the end of time......." - D'Angelo<P>"FIRE!" - Ohio Players<P>"Step into my office. Why? Cause you're fired!!!!!" - Something about Mary<P>"Got to keep my irons in the fire" - Teena Marie<P>"When you are oppressed the only thing you understand is your oppressor." - fire<P>LIKE FIRE IS CHOCOLATE<BR>LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE - MARCH 28<P>

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42. "Damn! I love ALL Y'ALL!"
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Sh*t like this is why - I Okay EVERYDAY!<BR>Players sparking thought & dialogue. I LOVE IT! But can we just have a big group hug - WHEN Y'ALL FINISHED?????<BR>I LOOOOOOOOVVVVEEEEE YALL!<BR>NuShooz?<BR>I,I, I Can't Wait!

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54. "i know"
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i've heard "i cant wait" before. i just heard a little on that vanessa williams cut, happiness. i'ma young'un.

  

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Chrishawn

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55. "Dude, you got heart..."
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I had the opprotunity to meet Brother Questlove briefly at Radio City Music Hall, at the infamous Thursday night show. i must say he was all that i made him out to be in my mind, from reading posts about the great things he had done for others and how his personality comes across in his posts, Sincere, Genuine & down to earth. I wanted to preference those statements so that the person who reads my thread will understand i respect Bro Questlove to the fullest and am not trying to "throw shade" or "hate". <P>However, i agree 100% with what you said and felt from the word go (after listening to Voodoo thoroughly and being a D'angelo follower since day one) that the finished product turned out to be "a soulquarian production", with a depressing feel to it. I cannot come to grips with why a Q-Tip, common, etc,etc would have ANY INPUT in D's work. Is Mr. Archer trying to become a emcee or is his aim and end that of honing his skills as a musician? I thought it was the latter.<P>After sitting through about half of the show i was kinda confused. After plugging "his band" the "soulquarians" several x's i wondered if D'angelo, the sole entity before, the man that did it all alone, a 1 man show, was relinquishing that identity and felt he could accomplish more with a band of skilled musicians. I did notice that D seemed/appeared 2be happier moving about on the stage freely as he was acusstomed to staying behind the Rhodes in the past. <P>If Voodoo is any indication as to what we should expect from D in the future, TO ME, HIS FUTURE DOES'NT LOOK PROMISING ANYMORE. <P>My suggestion: whatever formula you had for Brown Sugar, be it Richmond dwelling, be it working solo, be it drum maching it, whatever, please consider my sincere request. <P>Chrishawn

  

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emajor19

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56. "YESS !!!! FINALLY A PERSON WITH BALLS !!!!!"
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well. i totally disagree with your comments, but i thought that it was pretty cool that you said that all out in the open like that. we all need to realize that it's his opinion and even though it might have just been for attention - it sounded pretty cool coming out, you gotta admit it...it was a spirited vent, and you get a 10 out of 10 for enfuriating so many people with mere words!! lol, aight' peace in the middle east (peace sign)....billy<P>"you gaze confused/ at me from the stage while my camera rewinds/ yes - flashed a contraband memoir of an obsession divine/ in this life i want just a mere fraction of your prescious time/ when i relinquish to you all of mine" - <P>Psycho-Script Entertainment<BR><a href="http://www.geocities.com/gabbana36/billy1.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/gabbana36/billy1.html<;/a>

  

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a_pza

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57. "i don't give a fizzy fiz-uck..."
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about saying the same old tired shit on this topic (soulquarians) but i gotta say this...<BR>emajor19...does it really take that much "balls" to sit in your room and type some shit into a computer under a made up name for people who are probably hundreds of miles away and have no idea who you are to read?<P>think about it.

  

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58. "*sigh*"
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I'm glad everyone's in a tizzy. And everyone's speakin the name of Jay-z again. Players got opinions - and I love hearin them all! But to analyize the texture of dissent... oh baby you on to some different shit there. <P>Pre{a}ch on agitators : Preach on agitated.

  

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63. "I really like this concept"
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<BR>>to analyize the texture of dissent... <P>That's beautiful.<P>Happy Friday all! <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"> <P>love and respect,<BR>El Rey<P><BR>"We live the now for the promise of the infinite." - Mos Def<P>"If we must die, let it not be like hogs<BR>Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,<BR>While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,<BR>Making their mock at our accursed lot.<BR>If we must die, O let us nobly die<BR>So that our precious blood may not be shed<BR>In vain, then even the monsters we defy<BR>Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!<BR>O kinsmen! We must meet the common foe!<BR>Though far outnumbered let us show us brave,<BR>And for their thousand blows deal one death blow!<BR>What though before us lies the open grave?<BR>Like men we'll face the murderous cowardly pack,<BR>Press to the wall, dying, but fighting back!" -- Claude McKay

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simonhermansen

Thu Mar-23-00 10:08 PM

  
62. "stop hating. he got his we got ours!!!!"
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Stop calling him silly things and so on. He has the right to think they are bad. I love the SOulquarians, but if he doesn´t, then let him.....<P><BR>from<P>Simon.<P>PS. Big SHeezy doesn´t tell if ur a boy or a girl, so I just asumed u would be a male... sorry if youré not.<P>"I´m living for the day, that everybody lives for love.."- Rashaan Patterson from "The Day".<P>"Ya´ll emcees lack skillz so when I enter tha room/ ya´ll betta get that FUCK UP and meet yo doom"- Lil Herman aka Simon aka me

  

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PrettyMamaT

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64. "Harsh--"
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You are entitled to your opinion, and what you say may or may not be true. Innovation is in the ear of the listener. I, personally, am glad to hear music that's not laced by Puffy or Timbaland. Every musician/producer has a certain sound. For example, tell me, can you not tell when Babyface writes/produces a track? It has his feel/sound. If you work with a certain team, in this case Soulquarians, you can't expect them not to stamp the project with their seal. I think that it was kinda harsh with the "cocky bastards" thing, but as I said you are entitled to your opinion.

  

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66. "in my humble opinion......"
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i was listenin to TFA this mornin.....and LWFC is nuthin like TFA..........sure soulquarians did voodoo....they did LWFC, so there will be similarities, but rather than sayin its repetitive, or not innovative, how bout they are establishing a sound in black music, that is not present in anyway......<P>you can never replace MPC's etc. but understand that with samplin laws, most cats that used to use samples, are no where to be found....so the musicians take place of the instruments, and create the breaks themselves, or chop em and replay em so no one can figure em out....thas creativity....i challenge yall to tell me the sample Jay used in "Aphrodisiac..." or did he use one at all?? thas innovation and grotesque creativity if you ask me....<P>its a different sound, like ahmir said, singin on a hiphop record acts as cryptonite for a lot of "heads"....the same heads that think Ghost's lyrics make sense, and that his album was brilliant.....<P>and you cant say that "LWFC dont sound like a com album" cause com dont have a sound....Res, sounded totally different from Can I......One Day sounded totally different from both those....and now LWFC sounds totally different from the other 3....so where or what exactly is "com's sound"?!<P><BR>One Love<BR>RamXL<BR>(beat junkie)<P><P><BR>"I think that the isolation mentality in hip hop, which comes from the thug mentality, and which comes from the capitalist mentality, is tearing apart the fabric of the community" Bobbito<P>

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69. "mass haterism"
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brother, you came foul from the jump w/ the 'FUCK A SOULQUARIAN' thing. and asking for a respectful reply was straight monkeybar action...aka childish. Quest/DAngelo et al have formed a crew, for better or worse, remember when you had friends, and ya'll would build? you know, come up with stupid names for yourselves and secret handshakes and all that? Well, these cats came with that same vibe, (?: Hey, lets make a soul syndicate, and then people will be on our jock! D: YEAH!) and they ARE putting out some of the dopest soul music right now (not the only shiz tho, Rahsaan Patterson, and even if she is his ex, Angie Stones album is aite)...you can hate their work all you want, want them to change the style all that, just phrase it better next time. and tell the truth, if you got a pass from ? to come kick it backstage, you know you would be geeked to go, and the first thing out your mouth would be like 'Silent Treatment was DOPE!!', jumping directly on nutsack, with maximum swing. no offense intended so dont take none, and there wont be none....

ya'll give thanks

and whoever recommended that Zap Mama, 'preciate it, its in constant rotation

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Binlahab
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70. "mass haterism"
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brother, you came foul from the jump w/ the 'FUCK A SOULQUARIAN' thing. and asking for a respectful reply was straight monkeybar action...aka childish. Quest/DAngelo et al have formed a crew, for better or worse, remember when you had friends, and ya'll would build? you know, come up with stupid names for yourselves and secret handshakes and all that? Well, these cats came with that same vibe, (?: Hey, lets make a soul syndicate, and then people will be on our jock! D: YEAH!) and they ARE putting out some of the dopest soul music right now (not the only shiz tho, Rahsaan Patterson, and even if she is his ex, Angie Stones album is aite)...you can hate their work all you want, want them to change the style all that, just phrase it better next time. and tell the truth, if you got a pass from ? to come kick it backstage, you know you would be geeked to go, and the first thing out your mouth would be like 'Silent Treatment was DOPE!!', jumping directly on nutsack, with maximum swing. no offense intended so dont take none, and there wont be none....

ya'll give thanks

and whoever recommended that Zap Mama, 'preciate it, its in constant rotation

Bin

on sabbatical.

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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72. "RE: mass haterism"
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i like all the albums and i disagree, but i do love ppl w/ differing opinions. btw, r we haters cuz there's something we don't like??? yeah, i got that from com. oh yeah, is okp gonna kill erybody like that cult in uganda? just curious....

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73. "And I guess you can't tell the differencce . . ."
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between Timbalands album, Ginuine & Alliyah, right? Coem on now, you know producers have the same sound. what makes Soulaquarians different? I'll tell you what . .TALENT! None of the other muthafuckas on your CD shelf can even play a fuckin' instrument. It's about teh duplication of the dope shit the dope way . . .instruments. Perhaps that doesn't amount to much to you . . . but you may be of the new generation that likes to hear the same dispondant shit . . go ahead.
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PrettyMamaT

Tue Mar-28-00 03:55 AM

  
74. "RE: And I guess you can't tell the difference . . ."
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DAAAAAAMN, Tiny!!! You are off the cliff with your, but I feel you. As I said in my response, you can't expect a producer to produce somebody and not stamp their seal on it! That would be just like Keith Sweat not whinin, Babyface not cryin, and D not lickin those lips!!!!

Peace, Love, DOVE!!!
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75. "why does everyone clown samplers?."
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>what makes
>Soulaquarians different? I'll tell
>you what . .TALENT!
>None of the other muthafuckas
>on your CD shelf can
>even play a fuckin' instrument.

Even if that was true, so what? It takes talent to freak a sampler as well. Jay Dee can't play instruments either, from what I hear. He freaks the samples and he's MARVELOUS at it. Surely you don't think he is untalented merely because he can't play a traditional string or wind instrument (or percussion)? Come on now...

> It's about teh duplication
>of the dope shit the
>dope way . . .instruments.

Hey, Beats By the Pound is all live instrumentation too. Are they inherently more talented than Premier?

Anyway, point is, you don't have to clown how certain people make music to big up your fam.

Soulquarians are talented. Jay Dee, Chief Xcel, Shadow, Primo, Pete Rock, and lots of sampling cats are talented too. Heed the signoff: spread love.

Spread love,

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illegit

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76. "Man, did this fool need attention..."
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