I personally can't get with Slum Village. Though the Production is off the Heezy, Lyrically these kids come weaker than a Diet Shirley Temple.BUT, that's just my opinion. I am not posting to Hate but I have two questions?
1. Does anyone really really like SLUM VILLAGE? 2. Would these kids be on LWFC or rhyming period if they did not have that JAY DEE Hookup?
On Second thought, Please disregard my last Post. After Reading some of the other more recent Post. It occured to me that it is poor taste, to dig into someone so unconstructively. Honestly, how constructive will the discussion be around someone posting "LWFC is wack"? If you don't dig it cool. If you have constructive criticism articulate it, but to posting something provocative and incendinary just to get a response & attention really is rude & a waste of everyone times?
3. "RE: Why let Slum Village grab the MIC?" In response to Reply # 0
>1. Does anyone really really like SLUM VILLAGE? > yup
>2. Would these kids be on LWFC or rhyming period if they did not have that JAY DEE Hookup? > i doubt anybody would be on without some love. it is who you know, not what you know.
the thing i like 'bout them is that they ride the beats, and have fun. and that i can feel the giggles in their shit. maybe they aren't there - but it's got a real personal - chill - pick me up and let's go to the mall - playin' nba live/ dreamcast feel to it.
it reminds me of simpler times. everything doesn't need to be political or whatever, sometimes you gotta say... _______________________________________ "play at your own risk, act like ya know bitch i'm on some grown shit"
4. "RE: Why let Slum Village grab the MIC?" In response to Reply # 3
Man do i hate that. What, you ask? I hate when someone is wack and fools make up an excuse such as 'it reminds me of simpler times', or 'they like to have fun'. EFF THAT! There are plenty of emcees who can have fun, and come tight as hell. Common is one.. Pharoahe Monch, Kweli at times.. etc. So quit makin up bullshit excuses for emcees who simply don't bring it.
5. "did you even read what i said?" In response to Reply # 4
you throw away my points that they ride beats and that the music is simple and fun to say they are wack yet you provide no reason why you feel they are.
but you offer nothing to the dialogue on why you think they are wack or not. just a personal attack huh? so you can come again or let your illegitimate use of flame be your bastard ass legacy. you could be a father to your words, and try to raise a lil' something, or just let it ride - your choice...
i understand your rage, i get mad too, but if you don't want to come out looking like a "fool," by stating that you 'are tired' as your "bullshit excuses" - i'd like to say
BANH - wrong anser to your shit pie of a post. _______________________________________ "play at your own risk, act like ya know bitch i'm on some grown shit"
"i know this is in violation of the board because they are not okayartists . . . yet" _______________________________________ "play at your own risk, act like ya know bitch i'm on some grown shit"
You act like Tip and Phife were the two tightest lyricist of all time. Tip is straight, but Phife was the fucking worse. The rode beats wonderfully though (Same as Slum). Everybody in Slum rhymes better than Phife. So don't come with that shit.
"I don't care if he's rhyming to a test signal or an effin relaxation tape...it's the LYRICS!" - dafriquan on Ras Kass
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42. "the fucking worse?" In response to Reply # 39
what? who? phife? this has been driving me crazy since i came to this site. if phife was so wack, how the hell did we make it through 5 albums with him rhyming? phife was cool, hes not krs or anyone, but the fucking worse? all of slum is better? phife caried a couple of songs in his day. 1) can i kick it(the remix fit him perfectly) 2) vibes and stuff(classic ass phife verse. simple but hot) 3) butter 4) bugin out 5) scenario 6) phony rappers 7) god lives through(he didnt carry it, but neither did tip) 8) steppin it up(the worse verse of tip's carrer. kept d.j.'s from skipping the tribe part) so in closing i'm not saying phife is the best, but ill be damned if he's garbage. thats just crazy.
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32. "RE: i think they off the meter" In response to Reply # 3
i'll tell u why...how many emcees have fun with there werd play...i think there delivery is right on point and like u said, its not what u know its who u know...half of the emcess out there wouldn't be on if they mans or somebody didn't put dem down...plus i think common aint gonna put someone on his lp if he thinks that they shit is butt... i dont care if jd pushed dem niggaz on common....personally i like there stuff but thats just me...nobody out dere aint sounding like dem cats right now...(fly like mj in his prime, off the wall wit mines im grabbn my balls when i rhyme now, plus ball all the time)(slumvillage) it goes something like that but the shit is waaaay slick...just my 2 cents on it...
obviously there is a lot of sv haters on this site and a lot of people who like them. But, why does the question what is so good about them? alway's come up. you should be able to answer that question for yourself. either you like them or you don't, it's that simple. maybe your searching for reasons to like them because you feel left out cause you don't like them. you tell me. i like their music. period. i like their beats, i like their rhymes, and i like their style. your opinion could be different from mine. fine, that's okay, no one is going to kill you for that. so that being said, don't forget to check out sv live in toronto at the reverb on april 20. peace!
"fuck this rap shit I listen to classical"---Baatin of Slum Village
"cause who i'm talking bout y'all is HIP-HOP"---Common Sense
"i'm morpheus in this hip hop matrix, exposing fake shit"---Common Sense
>obviously there is a lot of >sv haters on this site >and a lot of people >who like them. But, >why does the question what >is so good about them? >alway's come up. you >should be able to answer >that question for yourself. >either you like them or >you don't, it's that simple. > maybe your searching for >reasons to like them because >you feel left out cause >you don't like them. >you tell me. i >like their music. period. > i like their beats, >i like their rhymes, and >i like their style. >your opinion could be different >from mine. fine, that's >okay, no one is going >to kill you for that. > so that being said, >don't forget to check out >sv live in toronto at >the reverb on april 20. > peace!
Just like I told the other dude, YOU ALL have to learn that there is a difference between LIKING something and it BEING GOOD. Someone can like Noreaga if they want... I don't care. But he's STILL wack. Y'all can like Slum... who cares. They STILL have weak rhymes.
DMX is weak and I hate him!!!!!! DMX MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why do heads gotta be haters cuz they don't like SV? I'll admit that I don't care too much about what they're rhyming about, but that don't mean I hate 'em...I DON'T EVEN KNOW THEM!
I get so sick of this "they haters cuz they disagree with me" bs!!
11. "Bit of An Ignorant Question?" In response to Reply # 0
Uh, I don't have ANY Slum yet, so I have no idea who's dropping which verse on "Thelonious." Can somebody give me the order?
Incidentally, I assume the verse Quest, the Source, et al didn't like was the first one ("gotta make money all my life/gotta stay fucking bitches left and right"). I know it's misogynistic and not all that technical, but for some reason I still feel that verse. Dude is crisp on the beat, although I freely admit I could just like him because I'm still bugging out to the beat that early in the song.
Fuck this. Ima do a seperate thread to talk about this song. But do tell me who spits what.
Bryan aim=bshelly24
Are you a rockandrollkayplayer? Come see my band!! Yell at me for tickets!!
it goes - t3 (bitches) baatin (stuff and stuff) jaydee (so hot i rewind it everytime)
i like esvee bigbadbshellqua - and you can find out more about them at http://www.slumvillage.net or if quest wants to risk a couple of copies against us in the next game of red v. green.
but, you know the big guy is scared - so i'd just check the website out. and you need flash
_______________________________________ "play at your own risk, act like ya know bitch i'm on some grown shit"
"i went from bashful to asshole to international, lover of self"
This cat I could do without. I thought he came with some interesting mentals (like wanting to go to paradise but not wanting to die) but his voice was grating. The other Slum I've heard leads me to the same opinion--I just don't care for his voice (H8R ALERT!! H8R ALERT!! CALL THE OKPOLICE!!)
>i like esvee bigbadbshellqua
Translate for the emu-impaired masses?
- and >you can find out more >about them at http://www.slumvillage.net or >if quest wants to risk >a couple of copies against >us in the next game >of red v. green.
Come on, now. I may not own, but you KNOW I've been to the web site, and you know I've been "loading down" MP3s for the last couple months. I'm not gonna be the okaypunk who goes "slum what? Voyage who?" Do you think you can mess with me? Recognize, chocolate martini sipper, Shell to the B.
> >but, you know the big guy >is scared -
"Nah, guys, I can't play tonight. I gotta go out and tour!! Really!!" Sheisty fool--hiding behind D and his six-pack.
Bryan aim=bshelly24
Are you a rockandrollkayplayer? Come see my band!! Yell at me for tickets!!
>--I just don't care >for his voice (H8R ALERT!! > H8R ALERT!! CALL >THE OKPOLICE!!) > find the humor in him, he's kinda off, he sounds unique though.
>>i like esvee bigbadbshellqua > esvee = SV = Slum Vill = Slum Village bigbadbshellqua = the leader of the shellquarians
>"Nah, guys, I can't play tonight. > I gotta go out >and tour!! Really!!" >Sheisty fool--hiding behind D and >his six-pack. > yeah, he knows we know his punk ass style, we'll bust dat ass when he's done hiding behind his woman...and just think about how much hiding he has to do to do that...
bak to SV - these muddafuggas are panty chasing comedians. it's like a better version of sex packets. they need to do a track w/ aktapuss and funkdoobiest. just be silly over some tracks and get some ass and some corn licka.
sheeit - let me on the track, i've got a history of rhymin about smutchyoulush stuff. hey b, you need somebody to guess star on a "love song?" _______________________________________ "play at your own risk, act like ya know bitch i'm on some grown shit"
"i went from bashful to asshole to international, lover of self"
27. "To Be Read as if Funk Flex Was Saying It" In response to Reply # 26
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Are you a rockandrollkayplayer? Come see my band!! Yell at me for tickets!!
14. "to understand slum village" In response to Reply # 0
one has to journey to their first outing "fantastic vol. 1"
they have this breathe and stop thing that they do with their choruses that is fat (and original) as fuck.
like a drunk ass greek chorus thing. com does it on "funky for you".
with the ah ohh stuff.
again, some of y'all just add water cats won't pay attention unless it's hitting you over the head. they aren't fast, they aren't loud. they mellow and in the pocket. (i however am not to satisfied with t3 's performance. however. he comes nice normally.
baatin and j came nice though. baatin is crazy(makes me wanna cryyyyyy) jay is dope you can't front on him at all ("500 that's really a 320"). listen again. they arn't bad at all.
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28. "RE: to understand slum village" In response to Reply # 14
well, some of y'all remember me as the ultimate Slum Village hater. I shit on them constantly for the early history of Okayplayer.com. Last month, I procured my own personal copy of Fantastic Vol. 2 to see if I was premature in my actions. I have come to enjoy Jay Dee's beats often (although a lot of the shit can sound similar on occasion). the rhymes are the same way, Sometimes they have a dope ass rhymeflow and lyrics that make me dig their shit, and other times they sound like a poor man's tribe...they're decent though.
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"It's all about me, me, me, me, me, and I'm Mya with a big dick though and you faggot like Sisqo"--Ras Kass
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29. "RE: to understand slum village" In response to Reply # 14
>jay is dope you >can't front on him at >all ("500 that's really a >320"). >
That line has me rollin' every time I hear it. (See Quote #2) IF (key word being if) there was nothing else about that cut I liked, I listen to it for that line alone.
"Eyes on the prize, eyes on the thighs of Mary J. Blige…"-Common (Nag Champa)
"...you roll a 500 that's really a 320, should have let somebody else hook it, numbers look crooked like King Kong shook it."-Jay Dee (Thelonious)
"Hell is hot, that's never been disputed." - The Sopranos
33. "RE: to understand slum village" In response to Reply # 14
damn i should have read your post before i responded...u hit it on the head although i haven't heard there shit..i recognize skillz when i hear it...they got they own thing...i dont know the names but that last cat is gettn it...and the dude who say..but that little bittie part of u dont wana die....hot shit
36. "RE: to understand slum village" In response to Reply # 14
The guy who comes last on "Thelonius" comes decent with the rhyme structure, and flow, but his lyrics weren't that impressive. The other 2 are just weak.
And to bfnw... or whoever, I forget. Duh, I don't like em cause a) their flow is ok, but not impressive b) their lyrics are weak. These are valid reasons.
So continue to like them because they 'have fun'. I'll continue to like dope emcees.
41. "RE: to understand slum village" In response to Reply # 14
>(i >however am not to satisfied >with t3 's >performance. however. he comes nice >normally.
Okay, well isn't it your job as the executive producer to say that his verse wasn't good enough to be on the record? I mean, I imagine it would be mad awkward to have to tell any emcee that their verse didn't make the cut, but I'm sayin. That verse really hurts the vibe of the entire song. It should have been cut or at the least rewritten. Is it that awkward to ask a cat to write another verse? I mean, you said y'all made a ton of beats for the album, right? How's come you can throw a dozen sub-par Jay Dee beats back in the crates, but can't tell his boy to go back and rewrite his verse?
--------------------------- "when science finally locates the center of the universe, some people will be surprised to learn they're not it." - unknown
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"whatever happens it was written, meaning God meant it..." - nasir jones
I remember the first time I heard "I Dont Know"... I was thinking, man, these ATCQ wannabes are wack as hell... Of course, Jay Dee gots some dope beats, but you gotta have the lyrics to carry em well... and i'm not asking for some complex Chino XL/Canibus-type ish, just something solid with a bit of effort... i'm prolly gonna get some heat for this, so fire away...
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"Ooh! Rev ain't right! His church ain't right! Deacon is a pimp, tell by his eyes!" -The Wally Champ
17. "RE: Why let Slum Village grab the MIC?" In response to Reply # 0
1. Does anyone really really like >SLUM VILLAGE? Yes I really really LIKE these kids!!! Just ask ?uest, Maria, Apostle, LoopFactor, Chrisnotic, Delsbrothergeorge, FUCK just ask Slum Village themselves. LOL PEACE SLUM IS NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<----- 100% Hater Proof.
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"I'm on my own dick like sleeping on my stomach" AG
"The tantalizing wordplay yeah that's the joint Sometimes I have to cuss just to prove my damn point" Q-Tip
to me sv is my new shining light in hiphop. they aren't for everybody though. so all i gotta say is......look at the artist that they influenced. nuff said!!!
"fuck this rap shit I listen to classical"---Baatin of Slum Village
"cause who i'm talking bout y'all is HIP-HOP"---Common Sense
"i'm morpheus in this hip hop matrix, exposing fake shit"---Common Sense
>to me sv is my new >shining light in hiphop. >they aren't for everybody though. > so all i gotta >say is......look at the artist >that they influenced. nuff >said!!! > > >"fuck this rap shit I listen >to classical"---Baatin of Slum Village > > I totally agree. Next level shit,for sure.
22. "JAYDEE produced and had the best verse" In response to Reply # 19
Thanks for breaking down the order of the MCing. So it turns out that Jay Dee produced the beats AND has the TIGHTEST VERSE. SO my QUESTION IS WHAT ARE THOSE OTHER CAT'S CONTRIBUTION? seem like dead wait to me.
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24. "RE: MAy 16 release date" In response to Reply # 0
They are signed to Indie label Goodvibe Records. IT's the same Vol. 2 album. So check for it. And i still thinkl that JAy Dee's is the best part of the group. I think they stepped up on Thelonuis but they still can't hang. And their whole album is redundant, how many songs can you talk about pimp ish and how this B***Th wants you blah blah. But there flows are interesting.
Help out the Weldon Irvine's Amadou Project which features Q-Tip and Blackstar and call 516-481-5354
...how >many songs can you talk >about pimp ish and how >this B***Th wants you blah >blah. But there flows are >interesting. > man - i just made a post - i'm pursuin' these broads...
i need albums like this. maybe i'm not super nice and all that crap, but i need some hot shit that talks about pussy chasin' and does it well.
i'm sayin - when money says, "i'm all up in ya face, grabbin' my nuts, nigga what, nigga what?" on jealosy - that shit is pure comedy.
i feel these cats - their good and goofy like i like it.
_______________________________________ "play at your own risk, act like ya know bitch i'm on some grown shit"
"i went from bashful to asshole to international, lover of self"
37. "Spit fire like Esther on 'Sanford And Son' did..." In response to Reply # 0
Hip Hop Quotable's
Nigga, no doubt. Nigga get live get knocked the fuck out. (Jay Dee)
A nigga thas...Fresh as the Fest, studied this rap shit no need to mic test. You can feel it in ya chest (ooooh). (Common)
Still doin this shit like dude in Wildstyle.(Common) (he's talking about Grandmaster Caz-ol boy STILL makin' records!)
Invitin wack niggaz to dinner. I Trick Daddy mc's and I don't know... Nann Nigga who can take it where I take it. You better go into God like Mase did.(Common)
OK, If Jay Dee's verse does not get Hip-Hop quotable in the Source...
Stay on ya mind like great sex. You aint on my mind i'm thinkin bout paychecks. Niggaz large like a 8x Avirex jacket Come to gunz they bust like latex sex packets.
Mc's they dont rhyme an' ball They lyin' to y'all They dyin' to ball The rhyme we do all the time(wha) Run thru all the fine Bitches they fall in line
THE FLOW ON THAT LINE WAS THE SICKEST SHIT I'VE HEARD ALL YEAR!!
No offense to T3 and Bataan but Com and Jay were so sick their lyrics almost didn't matter.
'Don't worry 'bout what the fuck I be doin'- Smokey
40. "Check "Go ladies"......" In response to Reply # 0
"Scooping up the ladies like a spachala..ah Knowing damn well I ain't no bachelah..ah"
They're not the most complex, but they fit the beats perfectly. They're voices and delivery add another element to the beat.
"Voice as an instrument" - Common
"I don't care if he's rhyming to a test signal or an effin relaxation tape...it's the LYRICS!" - dafriquan on Ras Kass
"Scooby snack jurrasic plastic gats booby trapped" See I flipped the -ic like that, nahwamean? I don't care if ya'll don't understand what I'm saying, I'm da only nigga dat can do dat shit. - Ghost
43. "RE: Why let Slum Village grab the MIC?" In response to Reply # 0
Son, do you even understand the SlumV vibe? First of all, don't forget these cats is from Detroit, so you know they not from the hip hop capital. But what they are is tight, their flows ain't complicated, and its all about a good vibe and stutter step rhymes. I mean nobody's trying to pass them off as the next lyrical geniuses, but they do have the tightest producer of all time, that n!gga, Jay Dee. And I don't remember if it was you but all the members of SV is homies from way back in the day, T3 and Baatin didn't jump on the Jay Dee bandwagon, SV was the plan all along. Well I'm signing off, but these cats are tight, just respect the style, and don't hate.
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