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bdub19
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"Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"


          

Im just going to come out the woodworks, and say Bilal sounds like D'Angelo. Fuck your bullshit perception of me "hatin." Some of ya'll motherfuckers need to add a g to it, and kiss my ass if you got a problem. I can honestly say Bilal sounds like D it isn't an attempt to be funny. Yes I know I will get shunned by alot of people but do I give I shit? Your answer is no I don't. I know D' Angelo is a blueprint for this neo soul movement, but why must everyone bite his dick nah what I mean. Maxwell sounds original. So does Eric Benet (if you consider him in this movement). oh and Rasaahn Peterson. SO where is the problem? There it is only three people that sound different than D' Angelo. You know the weird part though none of the females sound a like. People like Erykah, Angie Stone, Les Nubias. Notice all this D' Angelo biting came after Brown SUgar. Now that he has released Voodoo I hate to think that some record company has some half ass singer prancin around with clothes off and release an album to get some weak D'Angelo fan fare. Thats my two cents fuck off if ya got a problem with it.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Get a life dude!
Apr 21st 2000
1
RE: and ya point is?
monstaz
Apr 21st 2000
2
      RE: and ya point is?
Apr 21st 2000
3
           Dude
Apr 21st 2000
4
           RE: tru indeed but
monstaz
Apr 21st 2000
12
           the reason i'm stayin on yo case like white on rice is.............
Apr 21st 2000
23
                RE: the reason i'm stayin on yo case like white on rice is.............
Apr 23rd 2000
37
If you don't like him, you don't like him but...
okayraina
Apr 21st 2000
5
Okay therapy
Apr 21st 2000
6
Please!
Apr 21st 2000
7
RE: Okay therapy
_bigheezy_
Apr 21st 2000
18
RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
a
Apr 21st 2000
8
RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
Apr 21st 2000
24
      RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
Apr 21st 2000
25
      RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
a
Apr 22nd 2000
26
      who the f()@k cares??
1alphanumeric1
Apr 22nd 2000
28
You're not a hater...
Apr 21st 2000
9
RE: You're not a hater...
dr_no
Apr 21st 2000
10
      RE: JUST SAY NO TO HATERS
Apr 21st 2000
11
SMACK! SMACK! SMACK!!
Apr 21st 2000
13
Put ya high beams on!
Apr 21st 2000
14
RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
Apr 21st 2000
15
Take a look at yourself
Apr 21st 2000
21
RE: Take a look at yourself
Apr 22nd 2000
30
But really . . . they don't sound alike
Apr 22nd 2000
27
RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
Babieboy
Apr 22nd 2000
31
Why is it that...
Apr 21st 2000
16
RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
Apr 21st 2000
17
RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit
_bigheezy_
Apr 21st 2000
19
okay...my take
Apr 21st 2000
20
Bilal has an 8 octave(sp) range(like chaka khan) and
Apr 21st 2000
22
where's the comparison?!
Apr 22nd 2000
29
Yeah and?
Apr 23rd 2000
32
Real Quick....
Apr 23rd 2000
33
Bdub19 and Bilal
Apr 23rd 2000
34
RE: Bdub19 and Bilal
Apr 23rd 2000
35
      RE: Bdub19 and Bilal
vuduchild
Apr 23rd 2000
36
Bilal doesn't suck... but damn...
Apr 25th 2000
38
RE: Bilal doesn't suck... but damn...
Intellectual
Apr 25th 2000
39

nebt_het
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1. "Get a life dude!"
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You obviously are bored or in need of attention.
Go call ya mom or pop.....or social services they might be able to help.
Or contact ya local Big Brother and Big Sister chapter and find some extra curicular activities to keep you busy and off the damn boards!


http://h8r.com.....you can h8 there all da


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monstaz

Fri Apr-21-00 02:07 AM

  
2. "RE: and ya point is?"
In response to Reply # 1


          

i have to admit i thought he was D when i first heard it..but why u so angry...i mean..u ackn like bilal took something from u..and whats all this fuck yall if u dont like what i said shit....it aint even all about that black(white)....peace and weavegrease....


mother sistah always watchn(rubydee)

i aint a playa but i got some peeps up in ohio(boogieman)

i cockblocked the world so they cant fuck me over(strange)


  

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bdub19
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3. "RE: and ya point is?"
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The reason Im angry is because I stated this opinion and people call me a hater for saying this. Of course im not overly sensitive, but if giving my opinion makes people call me a hater all the time I tend to get pissed.

  

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nebt_het
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4. "Dude"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

if you dont wanna be labeled as a h8r then stop coming on here lashing out on artist like they took ya access card!
Have you seen D live?
Have you seen Bilal live?
I have they sound nothing alike.....maybe the soulfulness is simular but they sound nothing alike.....
you just like contravorsey and wanna get a display all on ya post.....i m done!


nebtsoul~~~~


"they say karate means empty hand so its perfect for the poor man" Dead Prez

"Fuck Fuck Fuck You!!" Nou Ra

"It dont take a whole day to recognize sunshine" Common

" E El Isum Shil El Eloh El Rahmun, Alazi Izu El Rahummul!"


  

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monstaz

Fri Apr-21-00 05:09 AM

  
12. "RE: tru indeed but"
In response to Reply # 3


          

sometimes its not what u say, its how u say it...what else do u expect people to say if u come off like the way u did..aint shit wrong wit
havn your opinion...GOD knows i have my share of them...but this is a D, COM, ROOTS, and i guess bilal site now... didnt know the cat before com's joint dropped....so when u say something neg...u gotta expect the response your gettn from the playaz...dig me? most of the playaz are in favor of these artist...so obviously your a minority...but i aint mad at u...luv luv


mother sistah always watchn(rubydee)

i aint a playa but i got some peeps up in ohio(boogieman)

i cockblocked the world so they cant fuck me over(strange)



  

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qoolquest
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Fri Apr-21-00 02:31 PM

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23. "the reason i'm stayin on yo case like white on rice is............."
In response to Reply # 3


          

a) you already said this before on another post and we (sans me) ignored you

b) unless you heard the boy's shit then shut the fuck up already. just because they sing great i mean what the fuck? does vince carter suck cause he is on jordans level?

the only reason i'm hating on you (and hating i am) is that you need to phrase your opinion in a way that shows intellegence.

"bilal sux..bilal is a d ripoff...wha wha wha"

explain yourself, discuss compare and contrast his alto verses d's tenor. who has the better range? who has better voicings? just because com says "if i don't like it that don't mean that i'm hatin!" dosn't make it right.

if you have actual reasons for not liking something then tell and share with us.
but if you just put shit up here again cause i dissed you in the last post. then that's weaker than 7 days.

you have no basis because his album is not out yet. he hasn't done any shows or tv on his own and you comparing him to someone who has a 5 year head start.

psssh nevermind





THE SOULQUARIANS
chewy (quest).....jan
luke (d)........feb
lando (jaydee)......feb
cp30 (james poyser).....jan
r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan
hans (chaos)........jan
anakin (lil mike)......feb

honorary members:
kelo- soulacorn.......jan
common- soulcies......march
erykah- soulcies......feb
zack- soulicorn.......feb
anthony hamilton-soulquarian.jan


top 5 reasons why bfnh is my hero


1. he's online right now -
all he does is play
on the internet and lose
at competitive games. he's
just ignorin' your ass....
(hak's response to th(si)ckness as to why i'm "not on the boards" (as if y'all can pull me away.....)

2. where is your individuality? where
are your catchphrases? why
do you say smut as
if you invented it?
are you REALLY offering manbutter
by the buckets? y'all
muthafuckas are jacking our slang,
i seen the same shit
happen to K(love), 3 paragraphs
in your response, trying to
wild out.
man, y'all suck ass.
(my favorite ok(semi)vet response/bitching to the new freshmen class to how the boards have....gulp uh....fallen? (fill preference here)

3.i still think you're either
in possession of two chins
or two testicles. or,
sadly, both.
(hak showing extreme strength when the enemy tries to butter him up with nicenes...nigga like me would cave in....hak goes for the jugg...er adam's apple?)

4...if you are this
22/23 year old record company
skank (didn't know i peeped
how you effed up and
claimed to different ages did
you?) then we may have
a spot for you in
team XSV. actually, i
work for a production team
Cock 'n Fist productions
we manage Dr. Cockinbush
& Mr. Fistabutt...
(nothing makes my day more than a good card pull (in this case superhak to an okaynemisis sickness )

5........ i don't need
no stinkin' okayplayer to vent
off frustration. here's a
hint - take your ass
to http://www.h8r.com and look at
the front page - see?
see? that's where i
vent......
(freedom, independence! gotta love it. i wish i was bi-postal!)

this would be a top ten list but big hak said cut down on the sigs. so i shall.

....you still gettin beat down during the 3am-6am laser blowout saturday of the reunion!!!!!!


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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37. "RE: the reason i'm stayin on yo case like white on rice is............."
In response to Reply # 23


          

>discuss compare and contrast his alto verses d's >tenor.

Alright, i'm totally digressing from the main conversation, but I was wondering about this. It sounds to me like Bilal is a tenor, his chest voice goes way up high. I've always kind of though D is actually a baritone; baritones have a fabulous falsetto usually and when he's not in falsetto his range is actually kind of lower than mine. i'm just interested b/c I'm a high tenor and I dunno...I'd just like to know. If bilal is really an alto then that's very odd...not too many male altos, except them damn castrati!

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okayraina

Fri Apr-21-00 02:40 AM

  
5. "If you don't like him, you don't like him but..."
In response to Reply # 0


          

I really do think your hatin'.

Go suk a duk dude...
_________
Soulpio till the world blow...

"Rap is outta control...." -EPMD circa 1992

"Uphold your Righteous Name
Skip the fame and f*ck the games
Develop and maintain a sense of awareness without being careless...
A nappy-head warrior such as myself is fearless and ready to expose those
who walk around with their spiritual sides all closed..." -me circa 1995


  

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6. "Okay therapy"
In response to Reply # 0


          

All this hating isn't healthy. You're best bet is to turn it into something more constructive. Work on a track! Write some lyrics! Preoccupation with another artist's success can't help you. You're beginning to scare me. Seriously. Only you can help you. Mkay?

Say it with me: I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggone it, people like me! (c) Stuart Smalley

:D :D

I AM STILL CRUNK! I AM STILL BLACK MUSIC

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7. "Please!"
In response to Reply # 6


  

          

Bilal is on some real shit! I hate little fudhwits that always tryna cause some shit! I mean, have u heard Bilal sing? And i mean sing!

There are a lot of people that can sing but nigga can SING! so leave him alone! Bilal takin over! And there is room for both, aight? Prick

Peace

Nij

MIND
MATTER

  

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_bigheezy_

Fri Apr-21-00 07:42 AM

  
18. "RE: Okay therapy"
In response to Reply # 6


          

i'm tier of being called a hater too. i be trying to have good discussions on these boards. if every post was oh common is so great how fun would this site be? not saying i post shit just to cause a ruckus, i post shit when i feel there is a need to tal about something.

but it's hard having a discussion when all i get is "you're hatin" "you just want attention" come on yo! let's talk about shit.

-bigbadhanks

"i believe man made god out of ignorance and fear if god made man then why the hell would he put us here"
-dead prez

  

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a

Fri Apr-21-00 03:22 AM

  
8. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
In response to Reply # 0


          

In fact, he`s fucking right. Any time you bring something up, like "this part sounds a bit sloppy", 50 players go fucking nuts, twisted shit and hostile. IMO Bilal and others are a good example of this lit soul shit on the radio. A shape, but no content. It sucks ass. Mary J Blige is another fave, right? Go buy some Mayfield.

  

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qoolquest
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Fri Apr-21-00 02:41 PM

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24. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
In response to Reply # 8


          

>In fact, he`s fucking right. Any
>time you bring something up,
>like "this part sounds a
>bit sloppy", 50 players go
>fucking nuts, twisted shit and
>hostile.

no. i get hostile when i see no backing up of a statement. i never say no shit without a reason. rarely will you see me say shit with out backup.



IMO Bilal and others
>are a good example of
>this lit soul shit on
>the radio. A shape, but
>no content. It sucks ass.

tell me what bilal songs you heard? i held his record up, so i know it ain't out yet. and that typecastin shit has got to go. you ain't hear nan song on the record and already you typing him btween montell jordan and sisqo.



>Mary J Blige is another
>fave, right? Go buy some
>Mayfield.

Soul expert huh?


THE SOULQUARIANS
chewy (quest).....jan
luke (d)........feb
lando (jaydee)......feb
cp30 (james poyser).....jan
r2d2 (jazzy jeff)......jan
hans (chaos)........jan
anakin (lil mike)......feb

honorary members:
kelo- soulacorn.......jan
common- soulcies......march
erykah- soulcies......feb
zack- soulicorn.......feb
anthony hamilton-soulquarian.jan


top 5 reasons why bfnh is my hero


1. he's online right now -
all he does is play
on the internet and lose
at competitive games. he's
just ignorin' your ass....
(hak's response to th(si)ckness as to why i'm "not on the boards" (as if y'all can pull me away.....)

2. where is your individuality? where
are your catchphrases? why
do you say smut as
if you invented it?
are you REALLY offering manbutter
by the buckets? y'all
muthafuckas are jacking our slang,
i seen the same shit
happen to K(love), 3 paragraphs
in your response, trying to
wild out.
man, y'all suck ass.
(my favorite ok(semi)vet response/bitching to the new freshmen class to how the boards have....gulp uh....fallen? (fill preference here)

3.i still think you're either
in possession of two chins
or two testicles. or,
sadly, both.
(hak showing extreme strength when the enemy tries to butter him up with nicenes...nigga like me would cave in....hak goes for the jugg...er adam's apple?)

4...if you are this
22/23 year old record company
skank (didn't know i peeped
how you effed up and
claimed to different ages did
you?) then we may have
a spot for you in
team XSV. actually, i
work for a production team
Cock 'n Fist productions
we manage Dr. Cockinbush
& Mr. Fistabutt...
(nothing makes my day more than a good card pull (in this case superhak to an okaynemisis sickness )

5........ i don't need
no stinkin' okayplayer to vent
off frustration. here's a
hint - take your ass
to http://www.h8r.com and look at
the front page - see?
see? that's where i
vent......
(freedom, independence! gotta love it. i wish i was bi-postal!)

this would be a top ten list but big hak said cut down on the sigs. so i shall.

....you still gettin beat down during the 3am-6am laser blowout saturday of the reunion!!!!!!


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Rozjack
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25. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
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(To the guy who made the first comment)I just checked out Bilal's song on the Love & Basketball soundtrack. The song is tight as hell. Yes, he sounds SIMILAR to D'Angelo, but is that a bad thing? No it's not. In my opinion D'Angelo sounds SIMILAR to Marvin Gaye and Prince. When I first heard the Brown Sugar album D's backgrounds reminded me of Marvin .Maxwell also sounds SIMILAR to Marvin and Prince. There's a big difference between SIMILAR and EXACT. The point is no music is completely original (unless you're talking about the primitive blues that were being sung during the Middle Passage or the pioneers such as Bessie Smith, Mamie Smith, etc.--but I expect that most folk don't know anything about that--I think you do ?uest). Every artist borrows ingredients from the greats that came before him/her, but a good artist (such as D'Angelo) takes those borrowed ingredients and makes their own special stew (not a copycat version).

  

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a

Sat Apr-22-00 01:14 AM

  
26. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
In response to Reply # 24


          

The note wasn`t directed specifically at mr ?, but at everyone who are unable to tolerate any sort of criticizm made. There`s always got to be people, in good and bad, to tell each other when shit stinks. This is why I enjoy reading reviews by every mag from The Source to Rolling Stone and NY Times to Downbeat, which doesn`t yet mean I took them even seriously.

I actually typed "Bilal and others", and admit that I wasn`t probably precise enough, but you know who I`m talkin about.

  

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1alphanumeric1

Sat Apr-22-00 08:20 AM

  
28. "who the f()@k cares??"
In response to Reply # 24


          

>>In fact, he`s fucking right. Any
>>time you bring something up,
>>like "this part sounds a
>>bit sloppy", 50 players go
>>fucking nuts, twisted shit and
>>hostile.
>
>no. i get hostile when i
>see no backing up of
>a statement. i never say
>no shit without a reason.
>rarely will you see me
>say shit with out backup.

so the fuck what.... shit if thats how they feel.....then thats how they feel period

who cares about some back up..backing up your views or none....it still the way the person feels..

okayplayers=american capitalism
if u aint on they side...you gettin fucked over
reporting live from southwest philly
this is how i feel

  

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9. "You're not a hater..."
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But you've got to be one of them damn smokers!! Cuz your vision is quite blurry! They sound nothing alike. My cousin can hear that shit...and he's deaf!

Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
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dr_no

Fri Apr-21-00 03:49 AM

  
10. "RE: You're not a hater..."
In response to Reply # 9


          

yo i love the interlude on COM'S joint.me and my friend rewind that part like it was a real song.NIGGA BE LETTIN OUT(SOUL)first time i heard that interlude i did think of d'angelo screamin on UNTITLED.but d'angelo reminded me of prince on that.and prince reminds me james brown when he screams.i could "GO ON AND ON LIKE ERYKAH OR EXCETTERA"(COM QUOTE)


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11. "RE: JUST SAY NO TO HATERS"
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SEEK HELP...FOR REAL.




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13. "SMACK! SMACK! SMACK!!"
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Sorry for the delay!

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14. "Put ya high beams on!"
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You got those heavy hands!
you gotta stay on point!


nebtsoul~~~~


"they say karate means empty hand so its perfect for the poor man" Dead Prez

"Fuck Fuck Fuck You!!" Nou Ra

"It dont take a whole day to recognize sunshine" Common

" E El Isum Shil El Eloh El Rahmun, Alazi Izu El Rahummul!"


  

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bdub19
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15. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
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Yo on the real. That shit during Common's interlude was Bilal? It was tight. Bilal is, compared to other singers good,but he still sounds like D' Angelo. You can argue with me on this subject all you want, but I refuse to change my opinion. The problem is many okayplayers are so preoccupied with okay artist they refuse to admit it. Has Common,or the Roots, ever done a song you totally not felt. Im not talking about its alright but im not feeling it. Im talking about "EWWW THAT SHIT IS GARBAGE WHAT THE FUCK WAS ON THERE MIND IN THE STUDIO." If you said no then Your Fucking Lying. I love Roots and Com but to say that I enjoy all their work 100 Percent of the time is bullshit. Chances are your some of you are scared or maybe too stupid to voice your opinion. Sometimes I think when someone like Questlove, Common, or whoever on Okayplayer tells about a new artist your opinions are already set. "IF THE ROOTS LIKE HIM THEN I WILL TOO." It seems to be the mindset of some of you. See it from my perspective sometimes. The first ten seconds of that Bilal song did sound like d' Angelo I think every single one of you can agree on that. However my mindset still carries this opinion when the song is over, yours doesn't. Every Fucking time I voice my opinion Im the bad hating motherfucking. Fuck all you that feel this way Im not hating alright. Its an overused word that gets on my fucking nerves. Im in the lab with a pen and a pad writing shit for my album. I don't give a shit what you got, their ain't time for me to hate so if I say sumthing sux I mean it. No envy or jealously is involved so get off my dick. I get so disgusted when people come over to me blasting me cause of how I feel. Chances are you just want to kiss Quest's ass everytime he appears on the fucking boards by going with what he feels. FUCKING INTERNET GROUPIE. THat will now be my term for some of you INTERNET GROUPIES.

  

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21. "Take a look at yourself"
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>Yo on the real. That
>shit during Common's interlude was
>Bilal? It was tight.
>Bilal is, compared to other
>singers good,but he still sounds
>like D' Angelo. You
>can argue with me on
>this subject all you want,
>but I refuse to change
>my opinion.

Noone asked you to change your opinion. That's why it's YOUR opinion in the first place.

>The
>problem is many okayplayers are
>so preoccupied with okay artist
>they refuse to admit it.

That's true to a certain extent. But I doubt that your post will help a lot. It bothers me too sometimes, and I'm sure more people here hate it (a few have left becos of this). But my point is : I feel more offended by your post, cos it's so unidirectional and even more narrowminded than the people you criticise.

>Chances are your some of
>you are scared or maybe
>too stupid to voice your
>opinion.

That's exactly what I mean. This is pure fascism. You simply don't insult people like this. Why ? It's called politeness, respect and understanding. Not only for other people, but also for this place and its .... GUIDELINES !!!

>See it from my perspective
>sometimes.
>The first ten
>seconds of that Bilal song
>did sound like d' Angelo

So ? What would be your reaction to a person who just heard "Untitled" and remarks it sounds exactly like Prince, thus concluding that D'Angelo is nothing but a Prince clone ?

All I'm saying is : until you've heard a complete album of Bilal, don't judge.
I simply haven't heard enough of Bilal to be able to judge it. Yes, his singing may refer to D's on LWFC sometimes, but on 6th Sense Bilal definitely doesn't sound like D. So what are you saying ? CAN you judge Bilal's singing ? Are you in a position to do so, to come with a serious, balanced, intelligent critique of his music ?

I feel I'm not, I'm waiting for Bilal to drop an album, I'll wait until then to say whether I dig it or not. And IF Bilal would sound very much like D (as in : "being on a similar vibe"), that would actually make me very happy.

Yes, I do know the word 'rip off', but I'm also familiar with the term 'similar vibe', which is not a bad thing at all if it means quality music.

>Every Fucking time
>I voice my opinion Im
>the bad hating motherfucking.

Yes, but don't act like this has nothing to do with the way you deliver things. If you want a thoughtful, respectful answer, using the vocab you do ain't gonna help much. I KNOW that even if you would voice your opinion politely, you'll still have people being disrespectful and dickriding, but does that mean you have to be disrespectful too ? You're just letting the negativity influence your posting, instead of just doing what you want and saying what you want to say.

>Fuck all you that feel
>this way Im not hating
>alright.

If you understand how people communicate, you should see the irony and sarcasm in your statements.

>Its an overused
>word that gets on my
>fucking nerves. Im in
>the lab with a pen
>and a pad writing shit
>for my album. I
>don't give a shit what
>you got, their ain't time
>for me to hate so
>if I say sumthing sux
>I mean it.

Glad for you. But if you don't give a shit about what other people think, why even bother posting it ?
Especially since you're such a busy man right now.

>I get so disgusted
>when people come over to
>me blasting me cause of
>how I feel. Chances
>are you just want to
>kiss Quest's ass everytime he
>appears on the fucking boards
>by going with what he
>feels.

HAHAHA. So most people agreeing with ?uest are doing so primarily cos they're kissing his ass ?
That's exactly the same thing as people saying you're hating everytime you don't like something.
So you're not offering any alternative to the narrow mindstate that's present on these boards, but doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING that you hate on these boards.

How can you expect people to change if you contribute to the negativity yourself ?


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30. "RE: Take a look at yourself"
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Thank you for setting him straight

  

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27. "But really . . . they don't sound alike"
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And don't EVEN think of cursing me out cause I'll pull out the belt, aight?
Anyway. So, really listen to them again. He don't sound like D'. Just a little whiney maybe at times. You know how "soulful" mofos are.
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Babieboy

Sat Apr-22-00 11:27 PM

  
31. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
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Bdub19 have you heard Bilal's joint on Love and Basketball? Now this joint is the ish. When I listen to him he has this soul sound that reminds me of D, but thats because D must be and obvious influence. Whats wrong with that. People think D sounds like Prince, mabe he does, but i don't feel Prince like I do D.Prince influences D and Quest. Alot of people are influenced by others, so what! You need to understand that these cats are makin' lovely ish right now. They're all vibin off of each other. If Bilal wasn't in this camp and you heard his sound you'd proberly still hate. You get your props for standin' your ground, but don't stand on unstable ground. Don't front. Bilal's ish is tight. Go listen to his track on L&B. Then come back on the boards and voice your o pin ion.
Oh yeah I'll be prayin' for all that anger you've got stored up. You really need to see someone about that, cause all that typin' behind cpus is one thing, but talk tough in person and ended up a goner.
Peace and love kid.




  

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16. "Why is it that..."
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why is it that cats pretend to know so much about music (i.e. talking about this 'neo soul movement') and then say something as ignorant as this? Clowns.

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17. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
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Fuck
>your bullshit perception of me
>"hatin." Some of ya'll
>motherfuckers need to add a
>g to it, and kiss
>my ass if you got
>a problem.

Hating? Not bdub19 "mr. spread love of the month" (meaning next month there will be a new you) himself.

I can
>honestly say Bilal sounds like
>D it isn't an attempt
>to be funny.

Opinions, shmopinions its not what you say its how you say it. Personally I havent seen D'angelo live, but the few times I saw Bilal he ripped it pretty damn hard, and even more so on coms album.


Thats my two
>cents fuck off if ya
>got a problem with it.

You have a nice day too, not what you say its how you say it.


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19. "RE: Bilal Sux, Stop Biting D Dammit"
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i don't think bilal is bitting d'. i do hear some similarities but, once his album drops i don't think you will have the same oppinion.

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20. "okay...my take"
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yes, Bilal..sounds a bit like D....
but....damn Bilal is still different..and has a lot of soul...

now come on guys we can't blame this poor misguided person on their personal opinions...all we can do..is go mmmmmmmkay


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22. "Bilal has an 8 octave(sp) range(like chaka khan) and"
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D'Angelo does not. There's one major difference between the two. Both are soulful as fuck and you can feel their passion for their music. While there are many clones in this world and industry they are no where close to eachother on the spectrum. The light reflects differently on each if you get what I mean. I think that Bilal will be a more complete artist because he's got the right people in his corner and he's young. D'Angelo didn't have all that many people helping develope him as an artist. Perhaps they are a like because they can both sing their asses off. PEACE

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29. "where's the comparison?!"
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they sound hardly alike. bilal has more of an explosive, histronic voice than d. d proved he could sing last week at vh1 but bilal got some strong pipes on another level, dawg.

  

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32. "Yeah and?"
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The man has a beautiful voice. He's doin his thang. I'm lookin forward to hearing him live someday. If you don't like him then don't support him. If you want to make a critical analysis of his style wait for the album to drop and then make an EDUCATED critique.

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I have no problem with the original poster voicing his opinion. If you dont like D, or Bilal..thats cool. I've been the odd man out in an arguement MANY Times. Hell, I remember when all these so called "underground" heads were callin me the anti-christ when I told them that El-P was a talentless fuckhead.
But like ?uest mentioned in his response above, a person should be able to back up their opinions....I was able to back mine up:
A) He obviously cant rhyme, has no charisma, and makes Generic ass tracks ("Sitars and Pots and Pans"--Sole).
B) The guys a dick. Yeah. Just a complete cornball. Met him, talked to him...hated him.

But, the fact is that I was able to build up more of a reason as to WHY I didnt like him.
Now, nobody's saying that if you cant give a good reason as to why you dont like Bilal that you HAVE to like him. If you dont, you dont..and thats cool. However, this is an Open forum for *discussion*...and the people that log onto these boards every day do so just for that...to *discuss* the music they love (or hate). What you wrote, while being a completely valid, understandable opinion...does not offer any means of which people can break down your post and compose a fair, well thought out argument. That leaves people to beleive that your sole purpose for writing this was to draw attention to your negative comments.
Personally, I enjoy Bilals live performance, as well as some of his music that i've heard ...more than D's stuff. I think Bilal is more animated and interesting when performing live, and like Nickelz45 mentioned above...he has a MUCH broader Octave Range than D. To me, alot of D's vocals sound the same, pitchwise. As far as their personalities go...I cant even compare. I've never met D...but when I've Spoken to Bilal on a few occasions..he was always real mellow and down to earth.
See...I give reasons as to why I feel that way. Nobody *wants* to hate on you in here...but I agree that a good portion of these people LOVE to lash out at someone who doesnt share their views. BUT, if you compose a well written, well thought out arguement..no-one can tell you what to think, and you will give them no ammunituon to shoot at you.
Remember that...
Peace,
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34. "Bdub19 and Bilal"
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Damn, I never thought I'd say this, but the kid's got a point. I heard Bilal on Com's album, and thought he was tight but his voice was vaguely reminiscent of D's. Then I heard the track on Love and Basketball. His voice is distinctly similar and when his album dropped he WILL be compared to D'angelo.

But--his voice is good dammit! I mean, the cat WAS a backup singer for D!!! I don't think he's trying to bite D's style at all. He probably got picked to be D's singer in the first place because he has a strong voice, a good range and compatibility with D's on voice. Now he's on the rise and much deserves it.

Anyway, he also has a point with OkayGroupies. Support is good, but it does seem like everyone around here rides the nuts of Quest and Co, and that whoever dares to disagree is a hater. Don't get me wrong, BDub19 IS a hater because he posts this "FUCK SLUM VILLAGE, FUCK BILAL, FUCK ETC." shit all the damn time, but even people who voice intelligent crit get blasted. Let one person just try and post that they didn't like Things Fall Apart...

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35. "RE: Bdub19 and Bilal"
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FUCK THAT I AIN'T NO HATER. ALRIGHT I SAY FUCK THEM TO GET YOUR ATTENTION TO WHAT I GOT TO SAY. MY OTHER POST DON'T GET RESPONSES WHEN THEY ARE INTELLIGENT. SO I GOTS TA PRETEND TO BE AN IGNANT NIGGA LYKE LIL' WAYNE TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. BEEEEEEEEYOOOOOOOOOUCH

  

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vuduchild

Sun Apr-23-00 11:29 AM

  
36. "RE: Bdub19 and Bilal"
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ah, admitting to looking for attention, huh? naw, i'm not going to twist your words, but i definitely don't appreciate your negativity. with putting up posts about bilal, all a lot of people are trying to do is get some information on the man, but you've gotta go and waist space saying "fuck this, fuck that." what's your deal? sure you're entitled to your opinion, but what you should do is just state your business and move on. instead, your ego is forcing you to continue to put up posts of negativity, just because a couple of people called you a "hater." yeah, i called you a hater. what'cha gonna do? bitch and moan? yeah, that's what i thought. bitch and moan, bitch and moan, bitch and...
whoa! it's not getting you anywhere, now is it?now move on, PLEASE!
-b

  

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38. "Bilal doesn't suck... but damn..."
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if he's not studying D like calculus, I don't know what....

sorry to bring this post back up, but i had to say my piece.

One must be honest with themselves and realize that their vocal styles are ridiculously close.

I'm sitting here listening to Soul Sista, and when B first started singing, I coulda swore I was listening to D. Listen to the way he sings the opening lines. The phrasing and vocal texture is ripped straight from Chapter 3 of the D'angelo handbook...

Listen to the chorus... when he sings "You must be my soul sister..."

the accents on "must" and "my" are from Chapter 9 of the D'angelo handbook...

I'm not gonna lie and say that Bilal sucks.. because he doesn't...

Just don't get mad when the comparison is made... and it's damn valid.

Bilal is actually quite dope.. when he doesn't sound like a D'angelo clone.

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Intellectual

Tue Apr-25-00 02:57 PM

  
39. "RE: Bilal doesn't suck... but damn..."
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Well he said the same thing bdub said. Lets see how long it will take before some fucks jump on your case about how their opinion is more important than yours.

  

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