"only 144,000 gonna get home". Com says this at the end of his verse on G.O.D., I know what it means, do y'all?

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>"only 144,000 gonna get home". Com
>says this at the end
>of his verse on G.O.D.,
>I know what it means,
>do y'all?

no.



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Im pretty sure thats a biblical reference... but i dont read the bible that often and i dont go to church so go figure.

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...pretty sure i know what it means... some isht from the revelation of john... but i think it's a flawed statement because revelation doesn't say those are the only people who'd get to the shining city...
...and...
...more importantly... it's entirely possible that revelation isn't totally about future prophecies, but it's instead a coded communique to the christians of the era about the times in which they were living... the jewish alphabet also doubled as the jewish numerical system, so there are amazing things revealed if you look at the numerology of the book...

...but that's just me...
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Yeah, I let one of my people listen to G.O.D. cause he was real religious and it was the first time he heard it, liked it, but said that the number was wrong and gave me a sermon.....

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YEAH AND GUESS WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHOSEN.GUESS YOUR ASS OUT.




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>YEAH AND GUESS WHAT THEY HAVE
>ALREADY BEEN CHOSEN.GUESS YOUR ASS
>OUT.

i hope that was a joke, cuz it was funny as hell, lol.

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" E El Isum Shil El Eloh El Rahmun, Alazi Izu El Rahummul!"

I'm pretty sure he was makin a reference to what the jehovas witness's believe in. I saw some people talkin about it on some show. I ain't really 100% sure though.

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in my many convos with Witnesses they say it will be more than 144,000 they belive that all witness are the chosen as do all organized religions do.....it is written in the Bible in refrence to the messiah Yashua who was sent to retreive the losts souls of the tribe of isreal 144,000 .......in Egypt they were known as Neteru......in Sumer the Annunaqi......now Com's reference is not clear and it will have to be up to him to set the record straight......however that is the knowledge i have aquired and it flows well with me.......carry o



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"they say karate means empty hand so its perfect for the poor man" Dead Prez

"Fuck Fuck Fuck You!!" Nou Ra

"It dont take a whole day to recognize sunshine" Common

" E El Isum Shil El Eloh El Rahmun, Alazi Izu El Rahummul!"

I always thought it had to do with the Jehovah's Witness belief? Don't they believe that 144,000 people will go to heaven and the rest not going to hell will stay on earth, but thatearth will be changed and will be much better? Thought that since he was running through various beliefs. But I could be wrong....

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>I always thought it had to
>do with the Jehovah's Witness
>belief? Don't they believe that
>144,000 people will go to
>heaven and the rest not
>going to hell will stay
>on earth, but thatearth will
>be changed and will be
>much better? Thought that since
>he was running through various
>beliefs. But I could be
>wrong....

Thats correct, earth will become a paradise and those not put to death will live forever. They don't believe in hell.

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...and the only reason I felt that he might have been referring more to Jehovah's Witness than the actual bible verses that support that, is because he sorta named various beliefs from various religions. Anyone with me on that?


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"they say karate means empty hand so its perfect for the poor man" Dead Prez

"Fuck Fuck Fuck You!!" Nou Ra

"It dont take a whole day to recognize sunshine" Common

" E El Isum Shil El Eloh El Rahmun, Alazi Izu El Rahummul!"

144,000 represents 12,000 chosen people in the 12 tribes of Israel...... This is one of the parts of the bible that I have yet to understand. I am not exactly sure what it means

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The 12 tribes of Israel (the desendants of Jacob's 12 sons)...12,000 from each tribe...multiply those two numbers to get 144,000 and that's what certain religions (Jehovah's Wtnesses, for instance) believe will go to heaven.

"G.O.D." is *easily* one of the tightest tracks ever. Cee-Lo & Com aren't overly preachy or anything, they're just dropping their thoughts & opinions on some things. And they're much deeper and more meaningful things than we're used to hearing in hip-hop (which is a damn shame).

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Read it for yourself. Revelations 7:4-10. Also Rev 14: 1 & 3.
I've been doing research about this myself. Lauryn also talks about this in "The Final Hour". ("I'm makin' sure I'm with the 144/ I've been here before this ain't a battle this is war...").
My research still continues...

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"Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him the 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on the foreheads. And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless."







as previously said, the 144,000 that will be redeemed at the end of the world will be 12,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. this is not to say others have not been redeemed at sent to heaven, but only 144,000 people will be saved at the apocalypse.







God bless

actually it says in Revelations 20: 11-15 that the dead will be judged before the throne. sorry for the late correction.



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I had no clue to what it meant, but I am pretty sure Rza made a similar remark in his verse in "7th Chamber" off of Genius/Gza's Liquid Swords, where he says something along the lines of "only 144,000 chosen/Protons Electrons Always Cause Explosions"


-"I went to school for 14 years, my best teacher was experience."---Common

-"Bros before hoes, thats the way love and life goes."---Common

Rza said" Chillin with the lamb/144,000 chosen"
Yeah I like that lin




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"they say karate means empty hand so its perfect for the poor man" Dead Prez

"Fuck Fuck Fuck You!!" Nou Ra

"It dont take a whole day to recognize sunshine" Common

" E El Isum Shil El Eloh El Rahmun, Alazi Izu El Rahummul!"

a jehova's witness once told me that there are 144,000 that will make it to heaven...the rest (the meek) will inherit the earth. sounds like a competition to me.

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it's a reference to the fact that Common is God and the 144,000 people who bought his first three albums would go to heaven.

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Could be the number of those chosen to be tought
and sent back to earth for the re-birth,
repopulation, and new teaching, after judgement of those living and dead.

But hey, fuck an opinon!

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The 144,000 refers to 12,000 people from each of the twelve tribes of Isreal. 12,000 times 12 equals 144,000.

The bible says in the book of Revelations in the last days, (the days before the return of Christ) a plague will be set forth unto to the earth the most horrible that people have ever seen. In that time people will be asked to take the mark of the beast. Of Those who don't, their lives will be tortured by the majority who do and they will eventually be killed but reedeemed by GOD who will accept them into the kingdom of heaven for following his ways, no matter the circumstances.

The 144,000 will be spared the tourtue, famine and other plagues of the time because they will be taken like thieves in the night to the kingdom of heaven to live with their heavenly father. These people are considered to be "saved" "Saved" people try to life their lives following the commandents of God and have accepted Jesus as their savior.

Now depending on your faith fill in Jesus and God for your most high, but same story applies. With my father being a pastor, (yes I am a PK) I heard this story many times.

>Could be the number of those
>chosen to be tought
>and sent back to earth for
>the re-birth,
>repopulation, and new teaching, after judgement
>of those living and dead.

i've heard this intepretation of the 144,000 too. my opinion is that its good to be aware of all the possible meanings, but in the end we'll all have wait and see the final outcome. just my 2 pennies' worth...

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. . .don't they subscribe to that theory?

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But my thing is, if it was really only going to be 144,000 that are going to make it don't you think they would already be chosen? Think about it......I suggest those with questions about it should sincerely ask God to give them a crystal clear understanding of his word on this matter and to read the Bible for yourself that is the only way you will truly understand it.

Just thought I would through that out there......

wouldn't it suck if you died before the Apocalypse...you're screwed...what a waste of time: you led your life for Jesus...I don't think that number 144, 000 is a literal representation...but I guess in the Biblical times that was a lot of people...I don't know..I don't believe in God...i am content to feed the worms...peace all...

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From my limited knowledge of the 144,000 theory supposedly that specific number will "get in" and for the rest of the RIGHTEOUS it will be paradise on earth.

One Love,

(the other)quest

But I remember hearing in freshman religion that in Hebrew numerology, the number twelve was like a "perfect" number. i.e.12 apostles, 12 tribes of Israel.
Also, in Hebrew, the number 1000 represented a "very, great number/amount." I am not a Jehovahs Witness, and I'm not disputing anyone's religion, but I think the majority of the bible is symbolic.

This would make perfect sense then in Revelations.
12,000 from the 12 tribes wold make it. That means that a "very great number" of "perfect" or at least very good, people will get to heaven.

Steve

My mother is from Eritrea Ethiopia and I was raised in Addis Ababa until I was ten. My mom was raised in the Jewish way of life. But she's a devout Christian now. Please don't take offense but she's a "Jew 4 Jesus"...LOL! I love calling her that now...all in fun. Well, I asked her and she said what most of you have said about 144,000 that will get into "Heaven", and the meek will inherit the earth...and "Hell" is said to be nonexistent.

Just a question...not a reflection of my knowings:

I just wonder if 144,000 will goto heaven and there is no hell, then what is the purpose of the 144,000 going on to heaven? I mean I know that living righteously is real, but what if all we've done is basically to live happily ever after?

I've heard Lauryn speak about her belief and she basically stated the same thing. I think its beautiful how anyone can incorporate their faiths and whatnot into lyrical prose that becomes a song that eventually touches masses of people.

Hey this would be a great question for someone to pose to Common!

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