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khimes
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"Like Water For Chocolate ?uestions"


  

          

I know this is kinda old, but I been listening to Common a lot more these days, and it's got me wondering. When Voodoo first came out, and even to this day, we had a lot of behind the scenes information. Jam sessions, ideas, funny stories, etc. We didn't have half of that for LWFC. I read the archives and still didn't find too many rare tidbits. So, my question is, what were some of the unique experiences during the making of LWFC? Examples...

1. Jam sessions with other artists
2. Other MCs coming through to laugh, rhyme, etc.
3. SOngs that never made the final cut

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Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
Sep 14th 2000
1
RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
Sep 14th 2000
2
you don't have lwfc? n/m
Sep 15th 2000
7
RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
Sep 14th 2000
3
magic moments
Sep 15th 2000
6
      They Still Have Soul...
Sep 15th 2000
8
      RE: They Still Have Soul...
Sep 15th 2000
10
      3 More ?uestions...
Sep 16th 2000
13
           RE: 3 More ?uestions...
Sep 18th 2000
16
                That's Why I Asked...
Sep 19th 2000
17
      that hurts
Sep 15th 2000
9
      If You Don't Mind, ?uest...
Sep 18th 2000
14
      RE: magic moments
Sep 18th 2000
15
           RE: magic moments
Sep 19th 2000
18
                RE: magic moments
Sep 19th 2000
19
HUGE favor...
Sep 14th 2000
4
from what i remember
shockalicious
Sep 15th 2000
12
RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers
shockalicious
Sep 15th 2000
11
What was that track
Amenhotep
Sep 19th 2000
20
RE: Like Water For Chocolate ?uestions
Gus
Sep 14th 2000
5

qoolquest
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1. " Like Water For Chocolate !nswers"
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hmmm com's album was more sacrifice for me than anything. enjoyed it nevertheless.....

-missed mtv awards at the metro (99) to spend the night at the studio to work on a song that didn't make it ("day in the life" our tribute to amerikkka's most wanted's "what they hittin' foe?"......i hope that's the title "fucking around in a crap game, niggas think i'm soft, because i'm in a rap game. cause i don't hang out as much, bang out dope cuts, standing onstage and i'm grabbin my nuts....")

-working on the definitive "chicago" song at jay dee's crib in december of '98 only to get snowed in for 3 days in 5 feet of snow. that was the same week that com kept buggin me about this beat jay had tin which he "thought had potential":
"what do you think?"
hmmm i dunno. pretty non descript for jay dee. don't even sound like him.
"but i think it sounds cold"
man, i dunno, you prepared to make no loot?
"how you figure?"
he's damn near scratching the whole record on the chorus, no way in hell cats gonna fall for this song.

-made me master and sequence his record on my birthday. a 16 hour process.









september is paul thomas anderson endorsement month:

"feel feel feel feel feel.......feel my heeee--ee-eeeeat!"
-dirk digler

the answer to magnolia is 82.

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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2. "RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers"
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I gotta go buy that one, dear!! :-):-)!!!


I LUV U 2!!!

  

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7. "you don't have lwfc? n/m"
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layzboi@aol.com
aim:lay z boi
picture of me and tay, my daughter: http://hometown.aol.com//layzboi/index.html


i can't believe he/she said that shit:

"i'll take a picture of myself naked and put it on the okp directory page"
-lay z boi

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lay z boi: yo this is sean

dj: i-ight sean who you picking?

lay z boi: aww man i have to roll with jilly from philly!!

dj: who?
- 97.9 jamz

"is that raekwon with illwill? "
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"I fucking love the hot boyz"
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khimes
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3. "RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers"
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What are some of the more innovative tricks or techniques you learned or perfected or witnessed during LWFC? During Voodoo I remember you talking about the...

-patented trick you do with the rhodes
-Charlie Hunter playing guitar AND bass AT THE SAME TIME (by the way, what is the most brilliant thing you've seen Charlie play with by himself?)
-D doing background singing 101
-D morphing through multiple styles on one song (The Line)
-etcetera

Were there a lot of highlights like that during Com's album making??

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6. "magic moments"
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well, alot of "firsts" were done with d, so by the time we were doing "chocolate" record we were way into the last stages of voodoo. so by this point com's record was somewhat of a breather from the tense process of recording d's record (whom by that point, we was feeling mad heat for not delivering a record to the label.). so the most i could say was there was just a family vibe going on. lot of brotherhood (and sisterhood) bonding.

listen to when roy first does his horn jawn in "coldblooded", you can hear us howl in amazement.

we also did that on "time traveling" (which i severely edited from it's original 12 minunte version)

but alot of magic occured off the 2 inch tape. namely watching jay make beats from scratch.






september is paul thomas anderson endorsement month:

"feel feel feel feel feel.......feel my heeee--ee-eeeeat!"
-dirk digler

the answer to magnolia is 82.

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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khimes
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8. "They Still Have Soul..."
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How has the process been for the Soultronics live album? I saw you post about making sure the liner notes are tight. I always loved the liner notes from TFA. Please, on the live album, make sure you include a list of who plays what for the entire band. Unfortunately, I have yet to see D live, so I wouldn't know.

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10. "RE: They Still Have Soul..."
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>How has the process been for
>the Soultronics live album? I
>saw you post about making
>sure the liner notes are
>tight. I always loved the
>liner notes from TFA. Please,
>on the live album, make
>sure you include a list
>of who plays what for
>the entire band. Unfortunately, I
>have yet to see D
>live, so I wouldn't know.
>
>
>"Have you ever been to Electric
>Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix




I LUV U 2!!!

  

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khimes
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13. "3 More ?uestions..."
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1. What were the firsts on Voodoo?
2. Will you include some of the unreleased material on the live album?
3. How's your new project going?

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16. "RE: 3 More ?uestions..."
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>1. What were the firsts on
>Voodoo?


too many to name. just read my "voodoo" record review in the "???" section of the roots. that pretty much sums it up.


>2. Will you include some of
>the unreleased material on the
>live album?
>3. How's your new project going?
>
>
>"Have you ever been to Electric
>Ladyland?" - Jimi Hendrix


tribe quote:
"when i see that nigga, imma beat the shit outta him"
-guess who over you know what?


september is paul thomas anderson endorsement month:

"feel feel feel feel feel.......feel my heeee--ee-eeeeat!"
-dirk digler

the answer to magnolia is 82.

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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khimes
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17. "That's Why I Asked..."
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Trust me. I walk around with a printed copy of that review in my notebook to every class I go to. I read all the archives at least 3 times. I read every D'Angelo article I have at least twice a month, in depthly. Only one part keeps making me ask these questions. During the notes for "The Root", "Spanish Joint", "Feel Like Makin Love", and "Greatdayndamornin", it says too many technical things to go into. Then you tell us something like Charlie Hunter played the bass and the guitar at the smae time!! How do you expect us not to still be curious? Please whet our appetite, because I know I ain't the only one who wants to know some inside info. It's like when you wrote about you and D tryin to outPrince each other (I wonder who won?). Once you told some of the secrets, I went out and bought PARADE. I heard Brown Mark's baseline on "I Wonder U" (ill!), I heard him spell p-u-s-s-y on "New Position" ("...I want to P Ur S-S-Y" or something of the sort). I also heard the solo on "Mountains". Knowing the secrets makes you understand the music a little more. Just know that I have a hunger for your music like you have for that of Prince. Please, help a little Black boy out!! Even if you only go into 1 thing in great detail, I'll be happy. Puh-leeeeeease!!

p.s. "Do U Lie?" is my fave song right now!

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9. "that hurts"
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>we also did that on "time
>traveling" (which i severely edited
>from it's original 12 minunte
>version)


"So down with myself, bitch I can chill as a bum, ho hum" - Slim Kid Tre/On The D.L.

Silly rhyme in my head for the moment:
"The steelo is sav-ito, big ego, that n!gg@ livin large-ito, I take you d-lo, ya confused like Judge Ito, rappin in a tuxedo, finito!" - Casual freestyle found here: http://www.hieroglyphics.com/sounds/freestyles/realaudio/casual_power106_pt1.ram

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14. "If You Don't Mind, ?uest..."
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I responded back twice. There's some new questions, only 3 or 4, and I'd like to save this, so cold you please complete it for me. Then I'll ask to have it archived.

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15. "RE: magic moments"
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>we also did that on "time
>traveling" (which i severely edited
>from it's original 12 minunte
>version)

12 minutes of time traveling? Man... the heat emanating from that joint must have been severe. Seriously though... the beat is so intense. Easily one of my fav joints on the album... in fact, songs 1-5, to me, are the best sequence. From sweet travelin, to the absolutely jawdropping 'heat', to the horn/funk madness of 'cold blooded' to the rick james bass line of 'dooinit' to the absolutely brilliant caldwell cut-up on the light... all the beats are so solid, lyrics all phenomenal. I have yet to get tired of hearing those tracks, ever. Period.

-thebigfunk

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18. "RE: magic moments"
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having heard Bobby Caldwell's "The Light", I no longer can give Jay Dee the extensive props that I had in the past...

he didn't chop up that sample nearly as much as I was led to believe... the chorus is taken straight from one of the verses... the music itself is just the chorus filtered and looped for about 4 bars...

add a few scratches here and there.. and voila...

hmm.. maybe I should try and recreate the song like I did with "Dooinit"

--me--
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19. "RE: magic moments"
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>having heard Bobby Caldwell's "The Light",

doh.. that should read "Open Your Eyes" not "The Light"

my bad

--me--
Viva La A Tribe Called Quest!
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4. "HUGE favor..."
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I know I be asking a lot of you, because damn near every post I've made has been indirectly directed to you. But, whatever happened to the "T.H.E.M." post? I looked everywhere. If it hasn't been deleted yet and you could tell me where to go for that, I'd appreciate it. Or give us the current status of "T.H.E.M."

Oh yeah, thanks big guy! You finally responded to me. I'm gonna save this once it's finished!

Read the "D'Angelo and his finicky recording taste" post, ?uest!!!!!!!

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shockalicious

Fri Sep-15-00 12:55 PM

  
12. "from what i remember"
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dream hampton convinced ?uest to stay with soulquarians, rather than THEM, or something else

s ck

  

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shockalicious

Fri Sep-15-00 12:51 PM

  
11. "RE: Like Water For Chocolate !nswers"
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>com kept buggin me about
>this beat jay had tin
>which he "thought had potential":
>
>"what do you think?"
>hmmm i dunno. pretty non descript
>for jay dee. don't even
>sound like him.
>"but i think it sounds cold"
>
>man, i dunno, you prepared to
>make no loot?
>"how you figure?"
>he's damn near scratching the whole
>record on the chorus, no
>way in hell cats gonna
>fall for this song.

hehehe
glad that you came round, quest

s ckisabrightandshiningstar



  

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Amenhotep

Tue Sep-19-00 03:09 PM

  
20. "What was that track"
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That came on as a bridge right before thelonius??



"Put your hands down bitch I ain't gon shoot you, I'm a pull you to this bullet and put it through you!"
-Eminem

"I never said that battlin me would be impossible, I just think it's highly muthafuckin improbable..."
-Canibus

"I catch niggas slippin like reflexes..."
-Amenhotep

  

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Gus

Thu Sep-14-00 11:55 PM

  
5. "RE: Like Water For Chocolate ?uestions"
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i want to now that too





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