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angieee

Tue Sep-19-00 09:44 AM

  
"Common's next single"


          

Ghetto Heaven remix with Macy Gray...

Had to beat Label Guy. If he already posted this..I feel dumb.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
damn.
Sep 19th 2000
1
ride the coattails.
Sep 19th 2000
2
Enhanced CD single?
Sep 19th 2000
8
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*coughcough*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Sep 19th 2000
27
RE: ride the coattails.
Sep 20th 2000
69
RE: damn.
angieee
Sep 19th 2000
4
      test the skills...
Sep 19th 2000
6
I think I'm gonna HURL!
Sep 19th 2000
3
I can't wait...n/m
Sep 19th 2000
5
RE: Common's next single
Sep 19th 2000
7
RE: macy kinda look
Sep 19th 2000
10
RE: Common's next single
Sep 19th 2000
9
song+Macy Gray = song I don't like
Sep 19th 2000
11
RE: song+Macy Gray = song I don't like
Sep 20th 2000
68
      RE: song+Macy Gray = song I don't like
Sep 25th 2000
107
It should be hot.
black_engineer
Sep 19th 2000
12
frown face....
Sep 19th 2000
13
Jay Dee remix right!?!?
Sep 19th 2000
14
Thats who's voice it was... n/m
33andathird
Sep 20th 2000
51
DAMN, what with...
Sep 19th 2000
15
The better ? is
Sep 19th 2000
16
RE: The better ? is
Sep 19th 2000
18
Bro. ?uest should explain........
Sep 19th 2000
17
RE: Bro. ?uest should explain........
Sep 19th 2000
22
      RE: Wrong Answer.......
Sep 19th 2000
26
           ?uest posted about this...
Sep 19th 2000
30
           maybee is because of this:
Sep 19th 2000
31
           RE: Wrong Answer.......
Sep 19th 2000
32
uhhhhhhh!
vuduchild
Sep 19th 2000
19
uhm , maybe ...
Sep 19th 2000
20
      when i get it..
Sep 19th 2000
21
      HELLO!
Sep 20th 2000
40
           RE: HELLO!
Sep 20th 2000
70
hope the remix is better than the original
Sep 19th 2000
23
RE: hope the remix is better than the original
Sep 20th 2000
52
      sorry, but...
Sep 20th 2000
57
           RE: sorry, but...
Sep 20th 2000
59
damn, it should be
Amenhotep
Sep 19th 2000
24
where's the o?
Sep 19th 2000
25
RE: Common's next single
Sep 19th 2000
28
*eagerly awaiting...
Sep 19th 2000
29
Whattt???
Sep 19th 2000
33
half of y'all making me sick already.
Sep 19th 2000
34
Soul II Soul
Sep 20th 2000
35
RE: half of y'all making me sick already.
Sep 20th 2000
36
?uestlove..
Sep 20th 2000
37
RE: half of y'all making me sick already.
Sep 20th 2000
49
can i jump on???
Sep 20th 2000
50
RE: can i jump on???
Sep 20th 2000
53
      you call that knocked???
Sep 20th 2000
54
           RE: you call that knocked???
Sep 20th 2000
56
the benefit to this...
Sep 20th 2000
86
RE: half of y'all making me sick already.
Sep 20th 2000
87
RE: half of y'all making me sick already.
Psycho-BM
Sep 21st 2000
92
      RE: MAGNOLIA
a_pza
Sep 22nd 2000
97
           The Art of Playing Yourself
Sep 22nd 2000
98
I'LL WAIT TO HEAR THE SONG
Sep 20th 2000
38
hater (c) ghostface
Sep 20th 2000
41
      you're queen of the h8rs
Sep 20th 2000
42
           no i'm queen of the baiters
Sep 20th 2000
44
                nope- just playing u'r game w/u
Sep 20th 2000
46
Give Macy a chance ya'll....she'll grow on ya!! : )
Sep 20th 2000
39
Macy is not ugly in the least
Sep 20th 2000
43
Listen
Sep 20th 2000
45
      in purgatory
Sep 20th 2000
47
      Blasphemy!!!
black_engineer
Sep 20th 2000
48
      RE: Listen
SARE_RETURNS
Sep 20th 2000
84
What's really pathetic is...
Sep 20th 2000
55
RE: What's really pathetic is...
Sep 20th 2000
58
RE: What's really pathetic is...
Sep 20th 2000
60
RE: What's really pathetic is...
Sep 20th 2000
62
      i was talking to redeye
Sep 20th 2000
64
           RE: i was talking to redeye
Sep 20th 2000
65
agreement!
Sep 20th 2000
63
Only on a Mac
Sep 20th 2000
66
      RE: Only on a Mac?? EFF!!!
Sep 20th 2000
67
RE: What's really pathetic is...
SARE_RETURNS
Sep 20th 2000
85
RE: What's really pathetic is...
Sep 20th 2000
88
Since you asked.
Sep 21st 2000
93
      RE: Since you asked.
Sep 21st 2000
95
           You are quibbling.
Sep 21st 2000
96
                quibbling's my specialty...
Sep 23rd 2000
99
RE: What's really pathetic is...
Sep 24th 2000
100
      i'm not him...
Sep 24th 2000
102
     
Sep 24th 2000
103
           whoa
Sep 24th 2000
104
                For demonstration purposes only.
Sep 25th 2000
105
                You know what?
Sep 25th 2000
106
whatever....
Sep 20th 2000
61
I've got this feeling, and I just can't turn it loose..
Sep 20th 2000
71
RE: nothings official yet !!!
Sep 20th 2000
72
sweetie?
Sep 20th 2000
75
RE: sweetie?
Sep 20th 2000
76
      funky for you
Sep 20th 2000
77
           RE: funky for you
Sep 20th 2000
79
                RE: funky for you
Sep 20th 2000
80
                That's it - a Raekwon remix!
Sep 20th 2000
82
RE: nothings official yet !!!
Sep 21st 2000
91
RE: nothings official yet !!!
Sep 20th 2000
73
      uh hmm!!!!
33andathird
Sep 20th 2000
81
      yeah yeah funky for you n/m
Sep 20th 2000
83
RE: Common's next single
SumWordPlay
Sep 20th 2000
74
are u drunk?
Sep 20th 2000
78
      just relax
riko
Sep 20th 2000
89
           RE: just relax
Sep 21st 2000
94
get the THUG IN COMMON
jonm
Sep 21st 2000
90
Hell..........
Lysithya
Sep 24th 2000
101
well
Sep 25th 2000
108

Guinness
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1. "damn."
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i had been hoping he would release that pimping skit as the next video. i heard it's got a chick with "video ho" looks on it. well anyway, it's good to see that common's keeping up with the tradition of riding platinum artist's coattails to personal success. get that money, baby.


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2. "ride the coattails."
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>i had been hoping he would
>release that pimping skit as
>the next video. i heard
>it's got a chick with
>"video ho" looks on it.
>well anyway, it's good to
>see that common's keeping up
>with the tradition of riding
>platinum artist's coattails to personal
>success. get that money, baby.

haha.

Damn y'all insist on collaborating with that wretched macy woman. Make sure that the cd single has an instrumental track.

You don't have to quote me, just pay attention to what I say!

"Give it up Biggie is dead, Eminem is what you have" - Paraphrasing Sarah Jones in Surface Transit

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8. "Enhanced CD single?"
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Behind the scenes type of ish.

Y'all can show how Macy gargles water and sings at the same time. That's riveitng TV right there folks!


You don't have to quote me, just pay attention to what I say!

"Give it up Biggie is dead, Eminem is what you have" - Paraphrasing Sarah Jones in Surface Transit

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27. "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*coughcough*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
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69. "RE: ride the coattails."
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I feel you! I got a headache already just thinking about it. I can't stand her with a passion...heaven forgive me for disliking someone other than Satan this much.


I loves Common, God's knows I do, but I kill him dead before I let him collaborate with Macy Gray! (Just kiddin' for legal purposes).

In the age of aquarius

  

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angieee

Tue Sep-19-00 10:00 AM

  
4. "RE: damn."
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>i had been hoping he would
>release that pimping skit as
>the next video. i heard
>it's got a chick with
>"video ho" looks on it.

I hear she did that shit to prove to rappers she was more than just a body...she can talk like a coffee shop chick, too!

I wanna battle you. (not here...at a bar with Marlboros)


*please, with cherries on top, read my user info comments prior to sending e-mail. just so you'll know it might take a bit for me to respond*

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6. "test the skills..."
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yeah? then you better cowboy up. after all, you owe me about half a pack by now, you wanna-be-more-than-a-pretty-face chick.

anyway, i want a role on your sitcom as a modern day fonz. agreed?


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how do it feel to hold my dick in public, cock-blower? -- prodigy

I cant stand suto intellectuall mofos -- sundasill

  

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3. "I think I'm gonna HURL!"
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5. "I can't wait...n/m"
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7. "RE: Common's next single"
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This could be good.

Macy's vocals replacing D's on the hook?

Aiight.

I'ma pray real hard on this one.

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10. "RE: macy kinda look"
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like that chick
gap in her teeth and all

Yall share dat- Badu
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From this point, I vow to

  

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9. "RE: Common's next single"
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I'm pissed about this man... Why they taking D off the single?

That's my song...

And I don't even like Macy...




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11. "song+Macy Gray = song I don't like"
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only thing I could listen to is the "git up, git out" sample, go figure.

  

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68. "RE: song+Macy Gray = song I don't like"
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I feel you. Macy Gray is a clown! I don't want Common fratenizing with a clown of this magnitude. The Wayans Brothers sure did a good job of pegging her ass on the MTV VMA awards. Good job, boys.

Please, that's my opinion and I don't want to hear anything from the clown supporters.

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107. "RE: song+Macy Gray = song I don't like"
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That would be a third hand raised in unison. Common knows better than Macy Gray... there is so much talent out there. And especially if you gonna replace D' with that whiny voiced, ripoff artist.... Yo I DO NOT like Macy Gray and I don't want her on one of my favorite artist remix that is being sent to radio and tv! The shit pisses me off before I've even heard it.

Peace,
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black_engineer

Tue Sep-19-00 11:06 AM

  
12. "It should be hot."
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I like Macy.

Carry On.

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13. "frown face...."
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that's just like @ the concert, Bilal didn't sing the hook to Funky for You, just so Erykah Badu had something to do while on stage doing nothing....


showbiz I guess.

Macy Gray, though? Y'all gotta be shitting me.

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14. "Jay Dee remix right!?!?"
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cmon ya'll for as much as y'all hate macy..jay can do no wron

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Wed Sep-20-00 05:28 AM

  
51. "Thats who's voice it was... n/m"
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Detroit in this...

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15. "DAMN, what with..."
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all this macy hatin'? i personally like her. she kinda different but her music is dope, especially live. i can't wait to hear this song. c'mon y'll be nice.

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16. "The better ? is"
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why does every new single have to be a remix? What's wrong with the album version?

I call this the Bad Body/Ford Motor way of making records.

Peace

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18. "RE: The better ? is"
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I would guess it's to get folks to buy the album AND the single. Give 'em something different.

I wish more cats would release completely different songs with their singles. Like all that classic Prince stuff. Or "If the Papes Come."

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17. "Bro. ?uest should explain........"
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?uest should be the one to explain why Macy and not D'Angelo and the evolution of the beat they ended up using since he was at ground zero.
LG

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22. "RE: Bro. ?uest should explain........"
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>?uest should be the one to
>explain why Macy and not
>D'Angelo

...just a guess...

Virgin Records is probably about to pop out another D'angelo single pretty soon and they didn't want to compete with another single with D'angelo on it... so.. they wouldn't give MCA clearance to use it for the next single.

happens all the time... take Santana's album for instance... no label wanted to give clearance for a single until *after* "Smooth" took off and annoyed half the population.

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26. "RE: Wrong Answer......."
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Bro. ?uest should explain........
LG

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30. "?uest posted about this..."
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He said something about macy knowing how to hit the notes and that D'angelo was going to work with her on that. It had to do with some sort of theory. Let me look it up in the archives and I'll get back to y'all.
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31. "maybee is because of this:"
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http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/general1/7181.html#22
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My boy and I are developing a web site
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32. "RE: Wrong Answer......."
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>Bro. ?uest should explain........

hey now.... i'm never wrong on these boards.

okay maybe i am. oh well.

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vuduchild

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19. "uhhhhhhh!"
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Dammit, I am completely disgusted by this news! That is one of my all time favorite songs, but ya'll felt compelled to remix it with Jay Dee (I love damn near all of his work, but this track just isn't him, n/m?), and to rub it even further into the dirt, you had to put Macy Gray on there over D'?! *sigh* D' just didn't feel like being in the video, huh? You could have at least put Bilal on there, but nooooooooooo...! I love almost all of Common's work, but that just wasn't a song to mess with! I hope it doesn't ruin the original for me! Just my opinion, though, so please restrain yourself from biting off a piece of my ass. Peace, Love, and SOUL!!!
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20. "uhm , maybe ..."
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You could wait until you actually HEAR the song ?

What use is criticizing something you don't even know now ?

Patience is a virtue. Criticize all you want then.


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21. "when i get it.."
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I'll play it in the realaudio Okayplayer show.
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40. "HELLO!"
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krewcial hit it right on the nose there! we ain't even heard the em effin song yet and ya'll already hatin! that ish could be hot to death so get over it damn!

btw krew...just heard the okayp song pt.2 hot to death!

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70. "RE: HELLO!"
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Hey, oh well. That's how we feel. That's the way the ball bounces, gee! We are allowed to react, right. Thanks mom, for helping with our negativity. Seems like some Earth or Water sign comments, maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

In the age of aquarius

  

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23. "hope the remix is better than the original"
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sorry yall, this was probably the only track on LWFC i really was NOT feelin. didn't fit the sequencing, weak showing by D', it seemed like a token weepy song, no substance to it. shoulda been "funky for you" or just a re-release of "dooinit." hell, i'm not gonna knock, i just wasn't feelin the song.

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i held out, but i finally put an IM in my sig. me and steve talking isht about biz markie:
Gigfog: He scares me alot
Gigfog: he's like king kong
Xkrh1X: LOL
Xkrh1X: you're fucked up
Gigfog: I saw him at the hotel with a biz markie sweater on LOL
Gigfog: I was like "why wear a sweater with your name on it?"
Xkrh1X: in case he forgets
Xkrh1X: lol
Gigfog: HAHAHAHa
Gigfog: just in case he gets lost..the police can contact his owner
Xkrh1X: yeah, you didn't see, but it has his address and a contact number on the back
Gigfog: hAHAHA
Xkrh1X: "if found, please call..."
Gigfog: and his proof of rabies vaccination?
Xkrh1X: LOL
Gigfog: man I am mean
Gigfog: LOL
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52. "RE: hope the remix is better than the original"
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>sorry yall, this was probably the
>only track on LWFC i
>really was NOT feelin.
>didn't fit the sequencing, weak
>showing by D', it seemed
>like a token weepy song,
>no substance to it.
>shoulda been "funky for you"
>or just a re-release of
>"dooinit." hell, i'm not
>gonna knock, i just wasn't
>feelin the song.

WTF?!..You obviously never heard the original version of "Ghetto Heaven." If you had, you would know that D's vocals are so on-point that its pathetic. (The vocals are s'posed to be haunting, like the theme song in the mind of the average brother in the struggle of everyday life!)--in the spirit of Curtis and Marvin--become a student of the game, and do your homework people!

"..well maybe you need to go read up on freaks and how we think?.." <hav plenty>

" ..and miles to go before i sleep... " <think you know??? take a guess>

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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57. "sorry, but..."
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i wasn't feelin the track. the whole album had a groove and a feel to it, i just thought this track interrupted that otherwise tight feel. d' mailed that shit in, common didn't sound very enthusiastic, the track was cold, it all sounded like an afterthought. not a BAD song, but the weakest song on a great album.

http://www.greatergood.com (hit two in one now)

i held out, but i finally put an IM in my sig. me and steve talking isht about biz markie:
Gigfog: He scares me alot
Gigfog: he's like king kong
Xkrh1X: LOL
Xkrh1X: you're fucked up
Gigfog: I saw him at the hotel with a biz markie sweater on LOL
Gigfog: I was like "why wear a sweater with your name on it?"
Xkrh1X: in case he forgets
Xkrh1X: lol
Gigfog: HAHAHAHa
Gigfog: just in case he gets lost..the police can contact his owner
Xkrh1X: yeah, you didn't see, but it has his address and a contact number on the back
Gigfog: hAHAHA
Xkrh1X: "if found, please call..."
Gigfog: and his proof of rabies vaccination?
Xkrh1X: LOL
Gigfog: man I am mean
Gigfog: LOL
Xkrh1X: yeah, you also may have just made my signature
Xkrh1X: lol

Stevelover and the purple Tubber: confusing freestyle suckas into a three-count pin

"Where the F*CK is my purse icon??????"

:::::::::::::
"And I know what the fuck an option quarterback is. He's the black QB under six feet that ends up being converted to wide receiver once he's selected on day two of the NFL draft because he can't hit the ocean from the edge of a boat."

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59. "RE: sorry, but..."
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..the song was the under-current... it moves, almost unnoticed like a subconscious thought (second nature). You're right though, its mellow compared to anything else on the album, but I still feel it holds its on.

" ..well maybe you need to go read up on freaks and how we think?.. "

" ..and miles to go before i sleep... "

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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Amenhotep

Tue Sep-19-00 03:06 PM

  
24. "damn, it should be"
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Thelonius...I still dont get why that track is called thelonius but it should get remixed, new lyrics and a flipped beat, that would be cold...


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"I catch niggas slippin like reflexes..."
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25. "where's the o?"
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It'll be Thelonius when they learn how to spell his name.

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28. "RE: Common's next single"
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wow.....macy is gonna ruin a great song....how could you take d off the song....who the hell made that call?????...
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29. "*eagerly awaiting..."
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the 'Thelonius' Sizzurp Remix*

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33. "Whattt???"
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That doesn't really promote the cd too much does it? Maybe i'm wrong, i hope i am. But damn, D'Angelo on that song had it bound to hit airwaves and tv easy. Hope it pays off. Peace.

the rap game is all fucked up now, what we goin do now, how we goin eat man, 50 back around

  

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34. "half of y'all making me sick already."
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yes. it's fab-u-li
yes. d'angelo said "no" to us when we asked him to sing on jay's version.
yes. mca said it's curtains unless i pulled a rabbit out of a hat.
yes. i want to see one of us go far.
yes. i suggested macy cause who else is left to sing on com's shit when the label insists that ghetto heaven is the next single?
y'all know the game.
it's groovy, it's a departure.
and i love the shit outta it.
james and i did it love of my life style with orchestra on some soul to soul meets house jawn....
wait and see.




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35. "Soul II Soul"
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wow !

Keep On Moving, Don't Stop !


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36. "RE: half of y'all making me sick already."
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you too, huh?


>james and i did it love
>of my life style with
>orchestra on some soul to
>soul meets house jawn....
>wait and see.


thanks for the info, ?uest. I'm definitley lookin' forward to that!! Any idea on a release date for the video or single?



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37. "?uestlove.."
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the ones that set haters straight..

man..when will people leave macy alone..and like krew said..just wait to hear the song!?!?!?

BTW..if MCA hadn't chosen 'ghetto heaven'..(i'd like to know who did that anyways?)..what WOULD have been the next single?..

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49. "RE: half of y'all making me sick already."
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damn for real.....y'all makin me sick too...why such much animosity towards macy....that sista is talented....y'all actin bogus cause she is cold....shine on


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50. "can i jump on???"
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i'm with yall man, eff everybody who disagrees w/ ?uest, he's ALWAYS right.

(disclaimer: this is sarcasm. lighten up, kids.)

damn, i'm surprised i didn't get knocked for my reply above. i thought the ORIGINAL was weak as hell....

http://www.greatergood.com (hit two in one now)

i held out, but i finally put an IM in my sig. me and steve talking isht about biz markie:
Gigfog: He scares me alot
Gigfog: he's like king kong
Xkrh1X: LOL
Xkrh1X: you're fucked up
Gigfog: I saw him at the hotel with a biz markie sweater on LOL
Gigfog: I was like "why wear a sweater with your name on it?"
Xkrh1X: in case he forgets
Xkrh1X: lol
Gigfog: HAHAHAHa
Gigfog: just in case he gets lost..the police can contact his owner
Xkrh1X: yeah, you didn't see, but it has his address and a contact number on the back
Gigfog: hAHAHA
Xkrh1X: "if found, please call..."
Gigfog: and his proof of rabies vaccination?
Xkrh1X: LOL
Gigfog: man I am mean
Gigfog: LOL
Xkrh1X: yeah, you also may have just made my signature
Xkrh1X: lol

Stevelover and the purple Tubber: confusing freestyle suckas into a three-count pin

"Where the F*CK is my purse icon??????"

:::::::::::::
"And I know what the fuck an option quarterback is. He's the black QB under six feet that ends up being converted to wide receiver once he's selected on day two of the NFL draft because he can't hit the ocean from the edge of a boat."

--

  

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53. "RE: can i jump on???"
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>
>damn, i'm surprised i didn't get
>knocked for my reply above.
> i thought the ORIGINAL
>was weak as hell....

..consider yourself knocked

" ..well maybe you need to go read up on freaks and how we think?.. <hav plenty>

" ..and miles to go before i sleep... " <think you know??? take a guess>

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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54. "you call that knocked???"
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i eat knocks like that for breakfast!!!

http://www.greatergood.com (hit two in one now)

i held out, but i finally put an IM in my sig. me and steve talking isht about biz markie:
Gigfog: He scares me alot
Gigfog: he's like king kong
Xkrh1X: LOL
Xkrh1X: you're fucked up
Gigfog: I saw him at the hotel with a biz markie sweater on LOL
Gigfog: I was like "why wear a sweater with your name on it?"
Xkrh1X: in case he forgets
Xkrh1X: lol
Gigfog: HAHAHAHa
Gigfog: just in case he gets lost..the police can contact his owner
Xkrh1X: yeah, you didn't see, but it has his address and a contact number on the back
Gigfog: hAHAHA
Xkrh1X: "if found, please call..."
Gigfog: and his proof of rabies vaccination?
Xkrh1X: LOL
Gigfog: man I am mean
Gigfog: LOL
Xkrh1X: yeah, you also may have just made my signature
Xkrh1X: lol

Stevelover and the purple Tubber: confusing freestyle suckas into a three-count pin

"Where the F*CK is my purse icon??????"

:::::::::::::
"And I know what the fuck an option quarterback is. He's the black QB under six feet that ends up being converted to wide receiver once he's selected on day two of the NFL draft because he can't hit the ocean from the edge of a boat."

--

  

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56. "RE: you call that knocked???"
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..j/k on the knock Tink, i respect your opinion, we agree to disagree...

" ..well maybe you need to go read up on freaks and how we think?.. "

" ..and miles to go before i sleep... "

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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86. "the benefit to this..."
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this may finally get macy gray on black radio.

damn shame, right, she only sold a few million albums. ah, "black" radio, home of Sisqo.

Spread love,

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87. "RE: half of y'all making me sick already."
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one last question: quest, you said D refused to sing on the remix. Why not release the original? It seems like it could fit into a radio playlist well enough.

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Psycho-BM

Thu Sep-21-00 06:51 AM

  
92. "RE: half of y'all making me sick already."
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Big Ups to Questlove, my man, for droppin that Magnolia reference. along with American Beauty and Fight Club( underrated) Magnolia was one of the best movies of last year. It was the Jawn. PTA is the sickest young director out there and the man can write. IM tired of hearin all thes people bitchin about how its 3 hours. i wish it were longer. If one has seen Magnolia and liked it, you are automatically smarter than anyone that didn't. Quest is ill!

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a_pza

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97. "RE: MAGNOLIA"
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> Magnolia was
>one of the best movies
>of last year. It was
>the Jawn. PTA is the
>sickest young director out there
>and the man can write.
> IM tired of hearin
>all thes people bitchin about
>how its 3 hours. i
>wish it were longer.
>If one has seen Magnolia
>and liked it, you are
>automatically smarter than anyone that
>didn't. Quest is ill!

You just played yourself. Now while you are entitled to your opinion that doesn't make a person with a different opinion less 'smart.'
Personally I was really disappointed by Magnolia, I was looking forward to seeing it but honestly its a good bad movie. I'm sorry but I thought it was a wanna-be-different movie that was trite from start to finish. The characters to me were all to easy and so manufactured. Sorry no depth. And as for biblical references...money please..having frogs drop from the sky don't impress me...that shit is just straight hackeneyed symbolism for the sake of symbolic material. Sorry. I was deeply disappointed. I expected a lot more...
I didn't like magnolia...so i guess i'm not as smart as you. oh well...

  

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98. "The Art of Playing Yourself"
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Welcome to the party, pal! © Bruce Willis, Die Hard

http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/concert/1571.html

or

http://www.ptanderson.com/featurefilms/magnolia/main.htm

You are entitled to you opinion. Please make it an informed one.

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38. "I'LL WAIT TO HEAR THE SONG"
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I just think there are so many much more worthy people out there. Macy is not great and she has been in the game for just a minute. But if it's about what ?uestlove said, "see{ing}one of us go far" then more power to them.


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"Industry rule # 4,080, RECORD COMPANY PEOPLE ARE SHAAAAADY, so kids watch your back, cuz I think they smoke crack, I don't doubt, look at how they act. There are often better things like a hip-hop forum, pass me the mic and I'll score 'em with decorum, propa, whatchu say Hammer? Propa? Rap is not pop and if you call it that then stop". - The Low End Theory

". . .not even, you can ask even if the vibe ain't right, huh? You're leaving. Hit the road jack and alla that, be if she offers her abode to drop your load? Right smack dab in the middle, get the kit and I got crazy tender vittles."- Low End Theory

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41. "hater (c) ghostface"
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Here's the fire take a chew-stevie wonder

LOVE 40!
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Fuck you
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42. "you're queen of the h8rs"
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September Tribe quotes start here:


"You wanna be treated right? See Father M.C.. Or check Ralph Tresvant for sensitivity. Cuz' I am not the one I got more game than Parker Bros., Phife Dawg is on the mic and YO I'M SMOOTH like butter" -The Low End Theory


"Industry rule # 4,080, RECORD COMPANY PEOPLE ARE SHAAAAADY, so kids watch your back, cuz I think they smoke crack, I don't doubt, look at how they act. There are often better things like a hip-hop forum, pass me the mic and I'll score 'em with decorum, propa, whatchu say Hammer? Propa? Rap is not pop and if you call it that then stop". - The Low End Theory

". . .not even, you can ask even if the vibe ain't right, huh? You're leaving. Hit the road jack and alla that, be if she offers her abode to drop your load? Right smack dab in the middle, get the kit and I got crazy tender vittles."- Low End Theory

". . .there was no concern about so and so, and these record companies. But now we all are grown and spots is gettin' blown. Boys II Men, ABC, BVD, now we ain't none of them three." - The Love Movement

"She wasn't even alla that, just another hooker, had to turn that azz away just like Chuckie Booker"- Midnight Marauders




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44. "no i'm queen of the baiters"
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:-)

u're too easy

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46. "nope- just playing u'r game w/u"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
September Tribe quotes start here:


"You wanna be treated right? See Father M.C.. Or check Ralph Tresvant for sensitivity. Cuz' I am not the one I got more game than Parker Bros., Phife Dawg is on the mic and YO I'M SMOOTH like butter" -The Low End Theory


"Industry rule # 4,080, RECORD COMPANY PEOPLE ARE SHAAAAADY, so kids watch your back, cuz I think they smoke crack, I don't doubt, look at how they act. There are often better things like a hip-hop forum, pass me the mic and I'll score 'em with decorum, propa, whatchu say Hammer? Propa? Rap is not pop and if you call it that then stop". - The Low End Theory

". . .not even, you can ask even if the vibe ain't right, huh? You're leaving. Hit the road jack and alla that, be if she offers her abode to drop your load? Right smack dab in the middle, get the kit and I got crazy tender vittles."- Low End Theory

". . .there was no concern about so and so, and these record companies. But now we all are grown and spots is gettin' blown. Boys II Men, ABC, BVD, now we ain't none of them three." - The Love Movement

"She wasn't even alla that, just another hooker, had to turn that azz away just like Chuckie Booker"- Midnight Marauders




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39. "Give Macy a chance ya'll....she'll grow on ya!! : )"
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:) Her voice and the lyrics are very expressive and she actually draws you(me) in... Fortunately she appeals to "others" which in time will increases her popularity and of course record sales. I have women of all ages and races talking about how her music is appealing. I like the raspiness of her voice..it makes her unique. Some people shoot her down because of her "looks" to me she is just another beautiful(ly) gifted woman who is a star in the making. In my opinion it was a wonderful colab. So I will definitely go cop the single. Don't get caught up in that old "idealism" of beauty. Be prepared to see/hear her often in the future.

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43. "Macy is not ugly in the least"
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she just has an awkward/bizarre demeanor. She does have "Tina Turner-esque" qualities to her voice. I just havent' heard one thing I could get with and I'm a lover of all music. I can find something to love in almost anything. We'll see.



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September Tribe quotes start here:


"You wanna be treated right? See Father M.C.. Or check Ralph Tresvant for sensitivity. Cuz' I am not the one I got more game than Parker Bros., Phife Dawg is on the mic and YO I'M SMOOTH like butter" -The Low End Theory


"Industry rule # 4,080, RECORD COMPANY PEOPLE ARE SHAAAAADY, so kids watch your back, cuz I think they smoke crack, I don't doubt, look at how they act. There are often better things like a hip-hop forum, pass me the mic and I'll score 'em with decorum, propa, whatchu say Hammer? Propa? Rap is not pop and if you call it that then stop". - The Low End Theory

". . .not even, you can ask even if the vibe ain't right, huh? You're leaving. Hit the road jack and alla that, be if she offers her abode to drop your load? Right smack dab in the middle, get the kit and I got crazy tender vittles."- Low End Theory

". . .there was no concern about so and so, and these record companies. But now we all are grown and spots is gettin' blown. Boys II Men, ABC, BVD, now we ain't none of them three." - The Love Movement

"She wasn't even alla that, just another hooker, had to turn that azz away just like Chuckie Booker"- Midnight Marauders




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Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage ~ ANAIS NIN

  

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45. "Listen"
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I'm tired of this line of reasoning. I could care less that Oprah adn Rosie liek her.

Those of us that thinks she sucks, thinks she sucks because we have listened to her mediocre at best album and do not like it one bit. Unfortunately, I listened to it on several occassions ot make sure that is was garbage.

Now u like her cool. But damn, just cause Quest and co. have taken a liking to her doesn't change the fact that her voice makes some of us sick and her album was blah as hell. If u have a right to like her we have the same right to dislike her.

Like I said before if Quest and co. use her, I'll probably bang the instrumentals cause more than likely the track will be banging. On the "Water" remake I figure there is so much involved her voice will probably get drowned out. But if I have to sit around and listen to her, it ain't happening.

You don't have to quote me, just pay attention to what I say!

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47. "in purgatory"
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god is gonna attach headphones to your ears permanently & pipe "I try" into them for eternity.

you better live right

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black_engineer

Wed Sep-20-00 04:06 AM

  
48. "Blasphemy!!!"
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I admit I cannot listen to it constantly but her album is tight for real.....

>I'm tired of this line of
>reasoning. I could care
>less that Oprah adn Rosie
>liek her.
>
>Those of us that thinks she
>sucks, thinks she sucks because
>we have listened to her
>mediocre at best album and
>do not like it one
>bit. Unfortunately, I listened to
>it on several occassions ot
>make sure that is was
>garbage.
>
>Now u like her cool.
>But damn, just cause Quest
>and co. have taken a
>liking to her doesn't change
>the fact that her voice
>makes some of us sick
>and her album was blah
>as hell. If u have
>a right to like her
>we have the same right
>to dislike her.
>
>Like I said before if Quest
>and co. use her, I'll
>probably bang the instrumentals cause
>more than likely the track
>will be banging. On
>the "Water" remake I figure
>there is so much involved
>her voice will probably get
>drowned out. But if
>I have to sit around
>and listen to her, it
>ain't happening.

Carry On.

****************************************

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84. "RE: Listen"
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I read the post, and totally agreed, and then I see who posted it...No surprise...Nesta, do continue to spit the gospel cuz...there are many things i'd rather do than to listen to that wild bear hollar over some of solid musical arrangements (she's wastin good sounds, I'm tellin yall my Minnie Ripplieton impersonation-sounds a 100 times better), unfortunately for you guys i will remain silent...did i tell you guys that i'd rather eat the fecal material of a young rodent....did i inform you guys that i'd rather lick clean the stairwell/platform of my local subway stop...seriously i would

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55. "What's really pathetic is..."
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...all you people who are, everyday, praising ?uest and Common and D'Angelo, etc., then as soon as something doesn't come out the way you think it should you:
a) assume it's because one or all of them made a bad decision.
b) pass your personal taste off as legitimate criticism.
and/or
c) forget that there are ALWAYS outside factors.

This goes for the the "Ghetto Heaven" remix, the Okayplayer Tour, drama getting into Black Lily, the oft-delayed Kweli-Hi Tek site, and on down the line.

Obviously, I'm not talking about everyone. You know who you are. And some of this is to be expected, even encouraged in this family atmosphere. But come on, people. You have to take it for granted that these creative minds know what they are doing. You don't have to like everything they do, but as fans you should respect it. Else, what the eff you doing here?

BTW, I thought the album version was a little tired and clichéd. So effing what?

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58. "RE: What's really pathetic is..."
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..definitely some crotch-grabbin' on that one! (j/k)...

" ..well maybe you need to go read up on freaks and how we think?.. "

" ..and miles to go before i sleep... "

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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60. "RE: What's really pathetic is..."
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i like u
u're cool as shit!

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62. "RE: What's really pathetic is..."
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..thanks for the compliment. Your comments were on point, sometimes folks get caught up in themselves here. Glad to see that you don't...

" ..well maybe you need to go read up on freaks and how we think?.. "

" ..and miles to go before i sleep... "

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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64. "i was talking to redeye"
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unless you are bot

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65. "RE: i was talking to redeye"
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..i know, jus' thought i'd cut in (j/k)

" ..well maybe you need to go read up on freaks and how we think?.. "

" ..and miles to go before i sleep... "

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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63. "agreement!"
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>BTW, I thought the album version
>was a little tired and
>clichéd. So effing what?

that's what i'm sayin. it wasn't BAD, but it didn't have enough to it that it could hold its own on that record, let alone as a single. but then again, mass audiences LOVE tired and cliched (how the hell do i get that accent???), and they love REMIXES of tired and cliched even more.... (tell me how to make an accent or i'll KILL you! )

http://www.greatergood.com (hit two in one now)

i held out, but i finally put an IM in my sig. me and steve talking isht about biz markie:
Gigfog: He scares me alot
Gigfog: he's like king kong
Xkrh1X: LOL
Xkrh1X: you're fucked up
Gigfog: I saw him at the hotel with a biz markie sweater on LOL
Gigfog: I was like "why wear a sweater with your name on it?"
Xkrh1X: in case he forgets
Xkrh1X: lol
Gigfog: HAHAHAHa
Gigfog: just in case he gets lost..the police can contact his owner
Xkrh1X: yeah, you didn't see, but it has his address and a contact number on the back
Gigfog: hAHAHA
Xkrh1X: "if found, please call..."
Gigfog: and his proof of rabies vaccination?
Xkrh1X: LOL
Gigfog: man I am mean
Gigfog: LOL
Xkrh1X: yeah, you also may have just made my signature
Xkrh1X: lol

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66. "Only on a Mac"
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option-E, then E = é
option-E, then A = á
option-G = ©
Macs kick ass
Steve Jobs is a god
Bill Gates is the Antichrist

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67. "RE: Only on a Mac?? EFF!!!"
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i'll mess with my HP later today and see if i can do this on a microsoft word processor. damn damn damn....

http://www.greatergood.com (hit two in one now)

i held out, but i finally put an IM in my sig. me and steve talking isht about biz markie:
Gigfog: He scares me alot
Gigfog: he's like king kong
Xkrh1X: LOL
Xkrh1X: you're fucked up
Gigfog: I saw him at the hotel with a biz markie sweater on LOL
Gigfog: I was like "why wear a sweater with your name on it?"
Xkrh1X: in case he forgets
Xkrh1X: lol
Gigfog: HAHAHAHa
Gigfog: just in case he gets lost..the police can contact his owner
Xkrh1X: yeah, you didn't see, but it has his address and a contact number on the back
Gigfog: hAHAHA
Xkrh1X: "if found, please call..."
Gigfog: and his proof of rabies vaccination?
Xkrh1X: LOL
Gigfog: man I am mean
Gigfog: LOL
Xkrh1X: yeah, you also may have just made my signature
Xkrh1X: lol

Stevelover and the purple Tubber: confusing freestyle suckas into a three-count pin

"Where the F*CK is my purse icon??????"

:::::::::::::
"And I know what the fuck an option quarterback is. He's the black QB under six feet that ends up being converted to wide receiver once he's selected on day two of the NFL draft because he can't hit the ocean from the edge of a boat."

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85. "RE: What's really pathetic is..."
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pay attention people...someone just dropped some jewels worth holding on to...nice

  

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88. "RE: What's really pathetic is..."
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>BTW, I thought the album version
>was a little tired and
>clichéd. So effing what?

so, what other songs fit into the "cliche" of "geto heaven 2" in hip-hop? I didn't realize "geto heaven" was following the conventions of some hip-hop subgenre. enlighten me, please.

i like "geto heaven", felt common's performance was heartfelt, thought D's vocals fit the mood of the track perfectly, and just generally liked the joint.

and i don't find anything terribly wrong with macy gray's voice. she sounds like tina turner to me. you guys hate tina turner's voice too?

macy gray is alright to me. no idea where all the strong animosity is coming from...does she not hit notes properly or something technical like that? or is it totally subjective?

(of course, a lot of music criticism is subjective, including my own)

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93. "Since you asked."
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First of all, my point in putting that in there was simply to say it doesn't matter whether I'm crazy about the song, I support Common and the others. I did not mean to spark any debate about the merits of the song.

Having said that, I must stand by what I said. I wasn't speaking about the music or the performances, but strictly about the subject matter of the song. Common does a lot of good things lyrically, evoking some genuinely creative imagery. But the "finding beauty in the hood" song has been a staple in rap music for several years now, and soul music for a lot longer than that. Each artist tries to do a different spin on it, tell it from their angle. But they all fall into the same genre.

Now, I don't have a whole list of song titles to post here to back me up, and you can call me on that. But I believe these are the types of songs that Tupac made his stock in trade towards the end of his career. In fact, its de riguer for west coast gangsta rappers to add, amongst all the violent bravado, one song about how they love the ghetto and as bad as it is there's still goodness there. And east coast artists have done their share of them as well.

More specifically in Common's song, he has a verse about how life in the music game is hard, he has the "strong woman" verse, he talks about "blunted eyes of youth search for a God" and how he wants folks to say "his life, it meant more". He may twist it with better metaphors and make it sound better than most, but are you really going to tell me you've never heard anyone talk about similar things in their songs?

Remember, this is just my opinion, but I've heard enough ghetto imagery songs. I've heard plenty of songs about finding God within the pain and hardship of life in the underclass. Even if this song is better than all the others, I have to ask, did we need another? (see Reign's thread in The Lesson.) I'd say, at least, I didn't. Maybe you did. Clearly, Common needed one. So that's cool. I'm looking for more.

Musically, the song is cool. Not outstanding or jaw dropping, but I like it. As it stands now, it does things you're not used to hearing in hip hop music, which is great. It's also what we've come to expect from all the artists who worked on it. So I'm actually anxious to hear where they take it.

Please note also, I never said anything about Macy Gray. I actually like her. Or at least, I don't mind her.

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95. "RE: Since you asked."
In response to Reply # 93


  

          

>But the "finding beauty in
>the hood" song has been
>a staple in rap music
>for several years now

"finding beauty" in the hood is just the hook. listen to the verses. the verses and the hook are on two seperate topical paths. for a good chunk of the song, com is speaking to a woman about relationship advice, and he doesn't even say whether she's in the hood or the suburbs (such a woman could be anywhere).

in fact, my only beef with the song is the hook doesn't seem to match the topic matter of the verses. it's like the hook came from an entirely seperate song (i am assuming since it is "geto heaven pt 2" the hook is from an earlier song which I am unaware of).

>More specifically in Common's song, he
>has a verse about how
>life in the music game
>is hard,

which has nothing to do with the hood.

he has the
>"strong woman" verse,

which was not explicitly linked to the hood, nor was the hood mentioned in said verse, if memory serves.

he talks
>about "blunted eyes of
>youth search for a God"

said blunted eyes could just as well be in white teenage suburban faces as in black inner city or suburban faces.

>and how he wants folks
>to say "his life, it
>meant more".

which also is not explicitly connected to the hood.

no idea why you think this song is a remake of too short's "money in the ghetto" (or similar tunes). it is far from that simple.

He may twist
>it with better metaphors and
>make it sound better than
>most, but are you really
>going to tell me you've
>never heard anyone talk about
>similar things in their songs?

uh, that is the definition of songwriting. literature has been around thousands of years. usually the only originally in writing is in how you flip it...I mean, you could argue that "The Matrix" is like "Star Wars", based on the similar handling of mentor/mentee relationships and use of Zen philosophy, but those two movies are still markedly different.

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96. "You are quibbling."
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See, this is exactly the type of discussion I was trying to avoid.

>"finding beauty" in the hood is
>just the hook.

Since it's in the hook, in felt it was intended to encompass the whole song. If that is not the case, you need to take that up with Common, not me. Still, using the phrase "in the hood" was simply my way of categorizing what I feel is the viewpoint of this and some songs I say are similar. He doesn't say "hood" but that can be thought of as another word for ghetto. I did not mean it in the sense of "Boyz in the Hood," like I thought the song was about gangland stuff. But, rather, I feel the verses go through several scenarios that people who can be said to be from the hood (or from the ghetto, or from any disadvantaged situation) may go through or may be familiar with.

You say I need to listen to the whole song, and that's what I did - all day long today, so I could give a decent critique of it. It had been a while since I listened to it.

I think you know I listened to it, too, because you decided to relate everyone of my points about the verses to the whole "hood" interpretation. And like I said, I interpreted the hood thing as relating to any disadvantaged situation.

But let's do this again.

>com is speaking to a
>woman about relationship advice, and
>he doesn't even say whether
>she's in the hood or
>the suburbs (such a woman
>could be anywhere).

Yes, she could be anywhere, but the song is called "Geto Heaven," not "Suburban Heaven." He's telling her that she shouldn't let a man define her, and she should leave a man that's abusing her. She shouldn't worry about finding a good man; when she gets right with herself then a man will come. And she will get herself together by keeping her head up (to borrow a hook from Tupac) and finding strength in God.

>>More specifically in Common's song, he
>>has a verse about how
>>life in the music game
>>is hard,
>
>which has nothing to do with
>the hood.

No, not the hood, specifically, but he's once again talking about someone (himself) getting through a tough situation. He talks about how all the distractions he has to deal with can be distractions, temptations luring him from this path he has set himself on. He stays focused, in part, through his faith.

>he talks
>>about "blunted eyes of
>>youth search for a God"
>
>said blunted eyes could just as
>well be in white teenage
>suburban faces as in black
>inner city or suburban faces.

Yeah, white folks got problems too. Somehow, I don't think that's who he was talking about, but there's nothing exclusive in that phrase. More on this later.

>>and how he wants folks
>>to say "his life, it
>>meant more".
>
>which also is not explicitly connected
>to the hood.

No, not explicitly, but this whole verse is about how he's trying to succeed by overcoming the usual traps and roadblocks that trip up young people trying to rise up from the ghetto. He sees people all around him who try to do the right thing ("search for God") but can't seem to make it (in part because of their "blunted eyes"). Com wants to take these people with him and succeed for, or, on behalf of all of them. He knows they are all looking to him so in the very least he wants to represent correctly so that when he's gone, they can point to him as someone who did well and did it the right way. In this way, the people back in the hood - if I can throw that word back into the mix - will say that his life meant more.

>no idea why you think this
>song is a remake of
>too short's "money in the
>ghetto" (or similar tunes). it
>is far from that simple.

Don't even know that song, sorry. But the fact that you can mention it leads me to believe you at least know what type of song I'm talking about. Just because "Geto Heaven" is more complex, more lyrical, more creative - just flat out better than all the songs in its genre, doesn't remove it from that genre.

> He may twist
>>it with better metaphors and
>>make it sound better than
>>most, but are you really
>>going to tell me you've
>>never heard anyone talk about
>>similar things in their songs?
>
>uh, that is the definition of
>songwriting.

No, it's not. And what does the definition of songwriting have to do with anything? A good writer can take a clichéd subject and make it sound fresh. Still, it's a fresh take on a clichéd subject. The more clichéd the subject, the fresher the take on it has to be for it to stand out. I think "Geto Heaven" is fresh but not fresh enough to make me forget the many times I've heard songs about keeping your head up through tough situations, or keeping your head while all around you are losing theirs, or however you want to spin it - it's still saying life is hard but you can make it if you stay focused and find strength in God. This isn't a bad message, and there are lots of people who need to hear it. I'm just not one of them.

>literature has been around
>thousands of years. usually the
>only originally in writing is
>in how you flip it...

True, and my point is he didn't flip it in an original enough way to make me forget that it wasn't original. Human beings ran out of tuly unique situations so long ago that is even says in the Bible, "there's nothing new under the sun." Centuries later, there still isn't. But that's no excuse. The trick is making the old seem new. Common's song didn't seem new to me. But it did to you and apparently to a lot of other people.

>I mean, you could argue that
>"The Matrix" is like "Star
>Wars", based on the similar
>handling of mentor/mentee relationships and
>use of Zen philosophy, but
>those two movies are still
>markedly different.

I could argue that The Matrix was one of the most vacuous and trite - dangerously so - pieces of hogwash masquerading as "deep" to ever be churned out of a morally bankrupt studio system. But I know you don't want to hear that either. I will say that it's different enough from Star Wars to stand out. But you still call them both science fiction. ("The Matrix" is also infinitely inferior to "Star Wars." Once again, it's just my opinion, but one held by a lot of people who actually know how to write a screenplay.)

And regarding my opening statement, I don't mind talking about this. I actually encourage more people to listen and watch more critically and to share educated opinions (like yours) instead of just opinions. I just didn't think this thread was the place for it. I know it's about an Okayartist, but this is a subject for The Lesson. But whatever. I'm game.

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99. "quibbling's my specialty..."
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...but we're getting off-topic, so I'ma take it to the e-mail. Especially over those Matrix comments! watch your inbox...

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100. "RE: What's really pathetic is..."
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>BTW, I thought the album version
>was a little tired and
>clichéd. So effing what?


well....uh look. could you explain to me what is cliched about it?

like sisqo cliched?
montell jordan cliched?
trick daddy cliched?

cliche to me is that synth line in jagged edge's "let's get married" or "leave me alone" by no question.

what do you hear on geto heaven that you've heard before in today's black music?





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102. "i'm not him..."
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and i know my opinion means nothing in this case, but personally i didn't like d's vocals and i thought the subject matter was just a little weak. was it a bad song? not at all. was funky for you better? abso-friggin-lutely. i thought it threw off a nice flow, but whatever, nobody gives a fuck about tinky anymore, he ain't shit.

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103. ""
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Before I go through the trouble of repeating myself, I must ask if you read the little discourse I've had on this with Spirit. Please start there, and if that's not sufficient (and it wasn't for Spirit), then let me know and I'll 'splain it again, perhaps using different language. Maybe Portuguese.

Mas no sumário, eu estou falando somente sobre a matéria sujeita.

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104. "whoa"
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that was maaaaad patronizing Red... ?uest didn't deserve that kind of an answer. At all.
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105. "For demonstration purposes only."
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From Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 10th Ed:

patronize: to adopt an air of condescension toward : treat haughtily or cooly

sarcasm: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usu. directed against an individual

My first post was an attempt at sarcasm. I intended this one to be patronizing, only to demonstrate the difference.

?uest is the king of sarcasm, particularly when people ask him questions he has already answered. This is the spirit in which I responded to him. Giving him a taste of his own medicine, so to speak.

I thought it was humorous, with the Babelfish link a nice touch. Yet, if my witty barbs failed to fly true, alas, I must plead a momentary lapse of self-control, as I find myself suffering the dual detriment of sleep deprivation and overwork, and I most humbly ask for lenience .

Or, like they say, fuck him if he can't take a joke.

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106. "You know what?"
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As I think about it now, I must do a slight retraction.

My reply to ?uest's post was intended to be neither sarcastic nor patronizing. He asked a legitimate question, but one I felt I had already answered. So I wanted to know if he was responding to my original post, or if he had read my answer to Spirit's question and wanted further clarification.

The implication in my post was that I felt it highly likely that he wouldn't like the answers I gave previously. But I wanted to know if he read it, or if I was starting from scratch.

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i still say he should of hit them with "funky for you", record companies suck A@@! but i'll wait to hear this one, i trust quest.



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71. "I've got this feeling, and I just can't turn it loose.."
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I was really hoping for "Funky For You" to be the next single. When I heard that it was going to be "Ghetto Heaven"(Remix), I was cool. But c'mon, Macy Gray? I DO NOT like her voice! Why wouldn't D'Angelo sing on the track? I like Jay Dee's production, and I like ?uest's work, so we'll see...

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72. "RE: nothings official yet !!!"
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MCA didn't demand "Ghetto Heaven" be the next single. The decision is still open between "GH" & "Funky For You". Unlike some in this post, we're waiting for this remix to be delivered & heard before folks make a decision.
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75. "sweetie?"
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ya know, if you listened to me in the first place, you'd be alot happier.


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76. "RE: sweetie?"
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what did you want again? "Funky For You" right?

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77. "funky for you"
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& jill is blowing up too and bilal has a buzz. i love ghetto h, but funky for you is NEEDED to be heard. it's so......FUNKY!


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79. "RE: funky for you"
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I hear you.....you see I didn't forget.
It's a lot of Chefs in the kitchen.
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80. "RE: funky for you"
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too many bricklayers make a lopsided house (c) somebody

alot chefs, but which one of those ^ mofo's can cook like me?



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82. "That's it - a Raekwon remix!"
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>It's a lot of Chefs in
>the kitchen.

Come on, man, you know that would be the shit!

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91. "RE: nothings official yet !!!"
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If I had a vote, I'd go with Funky 4 U, that's my ish, of course I haven't heard the remix yet...


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73. "RE: nothings official yet !!!"
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MCA didn't demand "Ghetto Heaven" be the next single. The decision is still open between "GH" & "Funky For You". Unlike some in this post, we're waiting for this remix to be delivered & heard before folks make a decision.
By the way REDeye dropped some science like Craig G. & Marley Marl back in the day.
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33andathird

Wed Sep-20-00 10:39 AM

  
81. "uh hmm!!!!"
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LabelG-
Check this out yo. That Ghetto Heaven jawn is tight and what not, but if you got any input on this situation make sure you pull for 'Funky 4 You', a much better choice. "Alriiigght, Okkk, Aliriiigght, Lets make it funky fo you nowww"

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83. "yeah yeah funky for you n/m"
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:-)

  

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SumWordPlay

Wed Sep-20-00 09:51 AM

  
74. "RE: Common's next single"
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Oh God macy gray!!!

i don't want common rappin with a marge simspon voiced lauren hill wannabe

they should just make it with D...

or put up a different video Song For Asatta possibly

  

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78. "are u drunk?"
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riko

Wed Sep-20-00 06:37 PM

  
89. "just relax"
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Allright I know that nobody here knows me and Im coming out of nowhere here (I hope you guys excuse the "new guy" for not making a bright entrance) but I am pretty disturbed by this whole hate on macy gray and vote for "funky for you" movement y'all got going. I will tell you straight up that Im not a Macy Gray fan (yeah the voice got to me too), but Im a huge Common ?uest and D fan and I respect their opinions on music. So to hear them talk about how they feel that this remix is off the hook, how in the world could you not want to even hear it???? I mean some of yall were just like "im gonna just play the instrumental", cumon now you have no idea what they put together. They are innovative musicians and are far from predictable, so how could you assume what they will make. Even though Im not crazy about Macy I'm extremely interested on how she performs on this jay dee remix (who knows maybe it will change how I listen to her entirely). You guys sound closed minded to me. I mean if you hear it and its terrible then fine, go ahead and diss, but if its off the hook (which i suspect) then you would look like real fools (to me at least).

oh yeah by the way I wouldn't want anyone to look like a fool.

  

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94. "RE: just relax"
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Why are you guys hating on Macy? The single isn't
out yet and you dissin it already. I'm pretty sure if it passed Quest, Common, and Jay Dee approval then it should be HOT!!! Can it play first, I mean dag. And another thing Macy is not not that bad.
I am a sexomaticvenusfreak-Macy
Hotep yaw!!

He's the perfect man for my soul!

  

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jonm

Thu Sep-21-00 03:17 AM

  
90. "get the THUG IN COMMON"
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Show the world how 87th street does it.

show the world the 22's of BUD ICE.

Show the world the ADIDAS FORUMS.

Show the world the TIKI ROOM.

Show the world Kenwood Liquors.

Show the world Luther South.

Show the world Hyde Park, Kenwood, CVS, Whitney Young, Morgan Park.

Show the world Cole Park, Jesse Ownes, West Chatham....

Stay peaceful you are doing a great job!


  

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Lysithya

Sun Sep-24-00 11:26 AM

  
101. "Hell.........."
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I love Macy Grey and look forward to the single !!
but whens Song for Assata gonna be released ???



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108. "well"
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i know macy is getting mad love from the pop as well as soul crowds, so i imagine that her on the single will expose common to new crowds, i dont know. but, he is going on tour with her, so the remix is gonna draw more peeps to the concerts due to the fact that macy and common both have collaborated on wax and now on stage.

  

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