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"MALIK B"


  

          

What's the deal with my man Malik B? Is he droppin a solo any time. I love Malik, I give him mad credit because he goes toe to toe with Thought and holds his damn own. I can't think of many emcees who wouldn't be over shadowed by Thought but Malik does his thing all the time. I want to hear more of his lazy ass though. Damnit Malik come to a show or something! I've beenstickin up for you for a while now since mafuckas want to forget about you since you always slackin. Has anyone ever seen him at a show. Any news on his solo?

  

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I never heard about a solo...
Mar 20th 2001
1
RE: I never heard about a solo...
Mar 20th 2001
3
thanks for finding it
Mar 21st 2001
7
eat a dick
Mar 21st 2001
15
      i'll pass on the dick... n/m
Mar 21st 2001
28
he's off somewhere
Mar 20th 2001
2
RE: MALIK B
Mar 20th 2001
4
RE: MALIK B
Mar 21st 2001
17
      no he dont have a prob
Mar 21st 2001
23
      see stress mag's roots cover story.
tongue
Mar 22nd 2001
38
      RE: MALIK B
Mar 21st 2001
25
           RE: MALIK B
Mar 22nd 2001
39
you make a good point
Mar 20th 2001
5
RE: you make a good point
Mar 20th 2001
6
      been thinking the same thing.
thoughts
Mar 21st 2001
13
      the spark
Mar 21st 2001
16
           RE: the spark
Mar 21st 2001
32
                sheeeeit
Mar 21st 2001
33
                     RE: sheeeeit
Mar 22nd 2001
34
                     RE: sheeeeit
Mar 22nd 2001
36
                          the sometimes socializer
Mar 22nd 2001
37
                          retract/response
Mar 22nd 2001
42
                               what happened to fruity d?
Mar 22nd 2001
43
                               RE: retract/response
Mar 22nd 2001
48
                                    RE: retract/response
Mar 22nd 2001
49
He don't do shows wit em.....
Mar 21st 2001
8
RE: He don't do shows wit em.....
Mar 21st 2001
10
      RE: He don't do shows wit em.....
Mar 21st 2001
24
RE: MALIK B
Righteous
Mar 21st 2001
9
aye.. MALIK B
Mar 21st 2001
11
RE: MALIK B
Mar 21st 2001
12
      RE: MALIK B
Mar 21st 2001
18
           STFU!!!!
Mar 21st 2001
22
honey im hooome! n/m
Mar 21st 2001
14
I THOUGHT...
Mar 21st 2001
19
RE: I THOUGHT...
Mar 21st 2001
20
      RE: I THOUGHT...
Mar 21st 2001
21
           RE: I THOUGHT...
Mar 21st 2001
26
                i seen him on stage
Mar 21st 2001
27
                     RE: i seen him on stage
Mar 21st 2001
29
                     RE: i seen him on stage
Mar 21st 2001
30
                          RE: i seen him on stage
Mar 21st 2001
31
                     RE: i seen him on stage
Mar 22nd 2001
40
                          RE: i seen him on stage
Mar 22nd 2001
41
                          check your inbox akhi
Mar 22nd 2001
50
                               Checked it dawg........didn't get nothin! Wassup???
Mar 23rd 2001
52
once in atlanta
Mar 22nd 2001
35
M-illa-tant
papivocab
Mar 22nd 2001
44
      RE: M-illa-tant
Mar 22nd 2001
45
           RE: M-illa-tant
papivocab
Mar 22nd 2001
46
                RE: M-illa-tant
Mar 22nd 2001
47
                     nm
Mar 23rd 2001
51
                          RE: nm
Mar 24th 2001
53
RE: MALIK B
HoeJoe
Mar 24th 2001
54

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1. "I never heard about a solo..."
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I never heard anything about a solo effort...
I don't think I could personally make it through a solo Malik album... sometimes he comes off as trying too hard, and it can ruin a track... he isn't horrible, but he's got more bad verses than good...

There was a huge post after I first got here about Malik's talent... that was a good post. I wonder if it was archived...

-thebigfunk
"And you may ask yourself... what is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself... where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself... Am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may ask yourself... MY GOD! WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!" - "Once In A Lifetime" - Talking Heads

"Trouble in transit/got through the roadblock/we blended with the crowd
We got computer/we're tapping phone lines/I know that ain't allowed
We dress like students/we dress like housewives/or in a suit and a tie
I changed my hairstyle/so many times now/I don't know what I look like!
You make me shiver/I feel so tender/we make a pretty good team
Don't get exhausted/I'll do some driving/you ought to get some sleep
Get you instructions/follow directions/then you should change your address
Maybe tomorrow/Maybe the next day/Whatever you think is best
Burned all my notebooks/What good are notebooks?/They won't help me survive...
My chest is aching/Burns like a furnace/The burning keeps me alive..." - "Life During Wartime" - Talking Heads

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3. "RE: I never heard about a solo..."
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Figures, I just start to get ready to study pysch and you have to go and mention the archives......

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7. "thanks for finding it"
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That was a good read...

-thebigfunk
"And you may ask yourself... what is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself... where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself... Am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may ask yourself... MY GOD! WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!" - "Once In A Lifetime" - Talking Heads

"Trouble in transit/got through the roadblock/we blended with the crowd
We got computer/we're tapping phone lines/I know that ain't allowed
We dress like students/we dress like housewives/or in a suit and a tie
I changed my hairstyle/so many times now/I don't know what I look like!
You make me shiver/I feel so tender/we make a pretty good team
Don't get exhausted/I'll do some driving/you ought to get some sleep
Get you instructions/follow directions/then you should change your address
Maybe tomorrow/Maybe the next day/Whatever you think is best
Burned all my notebooks/What good are notebooks?/They won't help me survive...
My chest is aching/Burns like a furnace/The burning keeps me alive..." - "Life During Wartime" - Talking Heads

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

  

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15. "eat a dick"
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Malik B is tight, and sampled by everybody
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28. "i'll pass on the dick... n/m"
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-thebigfunk
"And you may ask yourself... what is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself... where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself... Am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may ask yourself... MY GOD! WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!" - "Once In A Lifetime" - Talking Heads

"Trouble in transit/got through the roadblock/we blended with the crowd
We got computer/we're tapping phone lines/I know that ain't allowed
We dress like students/we dress like housewives/or in a suit and a tie
I changed my hairstyle/so many times now/I don't know what I look like!
You make me shiver/I feel so tender/we make a pretty good team
Don't get exhausted/I'll do some driving/you ought to get some sleep
Get you instructions/follow directions/then you should change your address
Maybe tomorrow/Maybe the next day/Whatever you think is best
Burned all my notebooks/What good are notebooks?/They won't help me survive...
My chest is aching/Burns like a furnace/The burning keeps me alive..." - "Life During Wartime" - Talking Heads

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

  

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2. "he's off somewhere"
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4. "RE: MALIK B"
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Somebody mentioned him being on some Beanie track recently...um that's all I've heard. As far as shows!? He might do some local shows here and there but I heard traveling with the group was bad for his health...something like that.
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17. "RE: MALIK B"
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Malik B is bad for Malik B's health. Cat is fucked up for real. As for him doing shows with the Roots, I think I've seen him 3 times: E.Factory in Feb-right before TFA, 9:30 Club a couple of months after that, and lastly The Roots/Gangstarr show at Hammerstein about a year and a half ago-this was the show that prompted Quest to post on these boards that Malik is an asshole and he would never perform with the Roots again. Son was way fucked-up, staggering about the stage, dumping a water bottle over his head and then almost falling in the puddle, Thought having to finish his lines for him. Incidentally, this show was the night before Rahzel's solo dropped and I haven't seen him perform with the Roots since. Now Rahzel I actually miss seeing, he isn't integral to the band but he added some different elements that could enhance a show. Malik brings very little to the table onstage and I imagine he's a huge headache off it. Personally I don't even really consider him a part of the Roots at this point. He's just a cat that occasionally rhymes on a track with them. I'm more used to seeing Malik as that fucked-up dude all over the bars and clubs of Philly and those that really know him know he's got issues. peace.

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23. "no he dont have a prob"
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But we see you do.....nm


Malik B is bad for Malik
>B's health. Cat is fucked
>up for real.
******Fucked up how????
***cuz he not like you,life get one 4 real

As for
>him doing shows with the
>Roots, I think I've seen
>him 3 times: E.Factory in
>Feb-right before TFA, 9:30 Club
>a couple of months after
>that, and lastly The Roots/Gangstarr
>show at Hammerstein about a
>year and a half ago-this
>was the show that prompted
>Quest to post on these
>boards that Malik is an
>asshole and he would never
>perform with the Roots again.
>Son was way fucked-up, staggering
>about the stage, dumping a
>water bottle over his head
>and then almost falling in
>the puddle, Thought having to
>finish his lines for him.

****-ummm this nothing new far as hiphop shows

Malik brings
>very little to the table
>onstage and(((((((( I imagine)))))) he's
>a huge headache off it.

******speculations,fuck all the drama kid,you got beef open it





>Personally I don't even really
>consider him a part of
>the Roots at this point.
>He's just a cat that
>occasionally rhymes on a track
>with them.
*******Ur personal feelings no gripe here

I'm more used
>to seeing Malik as that
>fucked-up dude all over the
>bars and clubs of Philly
>and those that really know
>him know he's got issues.
>peace.
*********I guess you a perfect lil angel huh
just cuase your with the roots you have to be perfect

ummmmm,news flash flavor flav yet they still are PE

It seems you have a bitter grip on how Malik B carries his self
which has nothing to do with his artistic talents.

I seriously think you need to research a lot of great musicans and shit cuz what Malik b is doing can't begin to fuck with the list i have..............

Yall share dat- Badu
N E E KeeP Makin music

From this point, I vow to

  

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tongue

Thu Mar-22-01 11:47 AM

  
38. "see stress mag's roots cover story."
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word.

  

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25. "RE: MALIK B"
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>Malik B is bad for Malik
>B's health. Cat is fucked
>up for real.

>Malik brings
>very little to the table
>onstage and I imagine he's
>a huge headache off it.

Imagination is a powerful tool when used properly, try it sometime.

>Personally I don't even really
>consider him a part of
>the Roots at this point.
>He's just a cat that
>occasionally rhymes on a track
>with them.

When did you start making decisions for the group?

>I'm more used
>to seeing Malik as that
>fucked-up dude all over the
>bars and clubs of Philly
>and those that really know
>him know he's got issues.
>peace.

Who doesn't have issues??? I do know him personally, and yeah he does, just like anyone. But you seem to have a grudge or something! What's your real beef? I rarely post, but your effed up 'tude need some kind of response.

  

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39. "RE: MALIK B"
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I don't have any grudge or ax to grind with Malik B. If it came out that way, sorry. The bottom line is he has an oppurtunity to be a part of something great and he shits on it. I get tired of hearing people talk about how he doesn't get enough credit, how "the show was great last night but I wish Malik was there", etc. Malik is never there, his participation with The Roots is marginal, and I don't really care if he continues to record with them or not. That's all I'm really trying to say, I may have gotten a bit too personal on my last post and I apologize. There's no need to take it there on a website, if I ever met you in person perhaps we could discuss it for real. My only point was that The Roots will continue to be great with or without Malik B., people tend to overstate his importance.

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5. "you make a good point"
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how many emcees could hold their own against thought for three albums?

now there are people that thnk that thoguth crushes malik every time, but i beg to differ

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6. "RE: you make a good point"
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>now there are people that thnk
>that thought crushes malik every
>time, but i beg to differ

It wasn't so bad on DYWM or Halflife but on
TFA he starts to sound outclassed, like his
heart really isn't in it any more. I get the
feeling he'll end up being the Jarobi to BT's
Q-Tip; always mentioned as a part of the group
but never around any more and never performing.
His dislike for the road is already well-known.

>"It aint all about economy
>so the fact that these wack
>emcees is making G's don't bother me
>Honestly, my number one policy is quality
>never sell my soul is my philosophy" - Binary Star

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thoughts

Wed Mar-21-01 07:54 AM

  
13. "been thinking the same thing."
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On Illadelph he was the illest, but since that, he seems to be getting consecutively worse. His verses on the studio tracks for TRCA were the weakest I've ever heard (from him).

  

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16. "the spark"
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one of the dopest roots jawns of all times, it is just that Malik B isn't rapping to you. I still fast make salaat and pay zakaat
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32. "RE: the spark"
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There's nothing wrong with that track lyrically, or even
in fact musically. In fact it hasn't nothing to do with
what he's speaking about or who he's speaking to - it has
everything to do with the fact he rhymes like he could
care less anymore; whereas Thought always attacks the mic.
I do like the track. I just don't think it's as good
as Malik used to be.

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33. "sheeeeit"
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i have differences.
but i must agreee.
malik ain't ever get no hungrier than "the spark" and "100%dundee" et al.

everyshit he said was true.

the music might have covered it up. but he put his own personal hell on them joints.

"i walk around a little edgy already...."

that was the truest shit i ever heard him say in life.




the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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34. "RE: sheeeeit"
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I wanna get Malik on Mt. Arafat next Hajj season, insha'allah
or at least dua for him

not to slight you ?uest, cuz you are the coolest and most generous person this side of I 95, but i remember the first time i ever met you at the Bowery. I gave you a letter to give to Abdul-Malik.

Although the Islam and the Street is connected in some twisted way, Malik appeals to my inner most being with a line or two. The life of this world is a trial, and he spits that.

I got mad love for my man

When he gave salawat to the prophet muhammad (saws) on bahamadia first jawn and i cried.
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36. "RE: sheeeeit"
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Before I start this post I just want to say "Whattup Quest?"
A lot of people +try+ to get you to respond and never do,
so I'm just glad for a quick opportunity to rap about Malik.

>i have differences.
>but i must agreee.

I know you like to be obscure and a little contradictory
(great artists usually are) but I'm not sure what the
"differences" are because you "agree" in the next line
with AbdulJaleel.

>malik ain't ever get no hungrier
>than "the spark" and "100%dundee"
>et al.

I actually thought he came off nice on "100% Dundee."
That's probably my favorite Malik rap on the album.
I think somehow my point got lost though; and that this
got taken down a "non-islamic heads can't relate" thread.
(BTW Abdul I visisted your ImamJamil site, it's very
informative. I should have known the media misled me.)

>everyshit he said was true.

I don't see the truth of "The Spark" being disputed.
I don't kneel and pray to the East, nor do I recognize
any organized form of religion (personal reasons) but
I don't disrespect any artist's personal religious
beliefs or find fault with bringing them into music.
I think if Malik had rapped "The Spark" on DYWM?!!??!
with the exact same words I'd jock it more just because
the delivery was more energetic. What I listen to when
I play that song in the ride is the production - the
very subtle "oooooooh, oooooooh" harmonies in the
backdrop that just make the whole shit lovely. Roots
productions always wow me like that - layers and layers.

>the music might have covered it
>up. but he put his
>own personal hell on them joints.
>"i walk around a little edgy already...."

I see that shit in his bio page on the website too;
and it goes with the "Malik doesn't tour" ish we've
been talking all along. I'm sure for Malik religion
is a stabilizing factor in his life for all the tension
and stress he feels; and like I said just because I
don't pray to the East doesn't mean that I don't respect
the fact that he does or that it gives him solace.

BTW Quest your sig file is entertaining to read but
that ish is like five pages long! And I gather that
you did it originally to make a point too.. but I'm
sure it's been archived so many times now it IS made.

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37. "the sometimes socializer"
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42. "retract/response"
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>Before I start this post I
>just want to say "Whattup
>Quest?"

howdy.

>A lot of people +try+ to
>get you to respond and
>never do,
>so I'm just glad for a
>quick opportunity to rap about
>Malik.


ok.

>
>>i have differences.
>>but i must agreee.
>
>I know you like to be
>obscure and a little contradictory
>
>(great artists usually are) but I'm
>not sure what the
>"differences" are because you "agree" in
>the next line
>with AbdulJaleel.

i paraphrase my shit quick. i was saying that (although no big newsflash) malik and i have our differences. his shit is still incredible.







>>malik ain't ever get no hungrier
>>than "the spark" and "100%dundee"
>>et al.
>
>I actually thought he came off
>nice on "100% Dundee."




that's what i said.
>I think if Malik had rapped
>"The Spark" on DYWM?!!??!
>with the exact same words I'd
>jock it more just because
>
>the delivery was more energetic.
>What I listen to when
>
>I play that song in the
>ride is the production -
>the
>very subtle "oooooooh, oooooooh" harmonies in
>the
>backdrop that just make the whole
>shit lovely.

glad you noticed. me and daddy kindred (must i call him that) took a few hours to perfect that jawn.


>BTW Quest your sig file is
>entertaining to read but
>that ish is like five pages
>long! And I gather
>that
>you did it originally to make
>a point too.. but I'm
>
>sure it's been archived so many
>times now it IS made.



nope. just proving a point to source alum dream hampton that my memory is crammed with useless info (i memorised all the ratings). also wanted to show how many classic joints got @@@@1/2 and how many @@@@@ joints really didn't deserve it.

the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
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43. "what happened to fruity d?"
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just jokes

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48. "RE: retract/response"
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>howdy.

Heh. It's funny though, living in the midwest, nobody has
ever greeted me with "howdy" once. Maybe if I lived somewhere
further South like Missouri... nah!

>i paraphrase my shit quick. i
>was saying that (although no
>big newsflash) malik and i
>have our differences. his shit
>is still incredible.

Word. I suppose that given what we've seen and heard of
Malik both on and off Okayplayer it might just be best said
he has an "artistic temperament" - many creative people do.
As a fan I'm just glad he's still willing to make music.

>>I actually thought he came off
>>nice on "100% Dundee."
>
>that's what i said.

My apoplogies if I was redundant.

>>the delivery was more energetic.
>>What I listen to when
>>I play that song in the
>>ride is the production -
>>the very subtle "oooooooh, oooooooh" harmonies in
>>the backdrop that just make the whole
>>shit lovely.
>
>glad you noticed. me and daddy
>kindred (must i call him
>that) took a few hours
>to perfect that jawn.

It shows. Highly crafted and finely tuned like a
baller's Impala. Not many rap groups have such great
emcees and I +still+ want to hear the instrumentals
seperately; but The Roots is one of a select few.

>>BTW Quest your sig file is
>>entertaining to read but
>>that ish is like five pages
>>long! And I gather
>>that you did it originally to make
>>a point too..
>
>nope. just proving a point to
>source alum dream hampton that
>my memory is crammed with
>useless info (i memorised all
>the ratings). also wanted to
>show how many classic joints
>got @@@@1/2 and how many
>@@@@@ joints really didn't deserve it.

Yeah; how did "Edutainment" get five mics anyway?
Don't get me wrong I love the album but even among
BDP's catalogue it's not a high point - it's probably
the most didactic and preachy of all their shit. "Sex
and Violence" shoulda been five mics and "Edutainment"
somewhere around three and a half.. maybe four.
How the fuck did FOABP get three and a half though?
Somebody was +SMOKING+. Same for "Resurrection."

Peace, Flash

PS: Why does dream always get ripped on UrbanExpose?
I never understood why people wanna hate her so bad.

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49. "RE: retract/response"
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Silly to quote myself I know but I had to clarify..

>How the fuck did FOABP get
>three and a half though?

Lest anybody misunderstand I mean it deserved MORE.

>Somebody was +SMOKING+. Same for "Resurrection."

Same goes here. That's score is WAY too low.
Sorry for the double post.

Peace, Flash

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8. "He don't do shows wit em....."
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Malik don't do shows wit the crew.....that's his thing. Don't know nothin about it...but he just don't do shows wit em. You MIGHT see him here and there...but as far as I know....I've never heard of him at a show wit em....(I'm sure he has been tho.....) You just neva know tho.....he does hold his own...but I'll agree wit the lazy part....he does seem a lil lazy....oh well..fuck it..The Roots still da shit...and ain't no one stoppin em...
peace





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10. "RE: He don't do shows wit em....."
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He performed with them in Vegas @ the Hard Rock Hotel a few years ago

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24. "RE: He don't do shows wit em....."
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and he actually made it up to Vancouver, BC a few years ago.
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9. "RE: MALIK B"
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Malik B is the most slept on/underrated MC out there, hands down!

'I walk around a little edgy already'...

Excuse the greed/
don't want a mil, i want a zillion/
stacks of Franklins to the ceilin'...

'buy out Tommy and Hally Hansen'...

give that brotha his props!!!


  

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11. "aye.. MALIK B"
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shit on all these nay sayers on the next album
shit on all of em!!!


Scene from Moesha:
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Crowd:Yeah!!!
Dorian:Yall ready to ROLL!?!
Crowd:YEAH!!!!
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Crowd:WHO??????!!!!!
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12. "RE: MALIK B"
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Malik B definetly deserves more credit than he gets, I personally think the kid has a lot of good verses especially on Half Life....go listen!
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18. "RE: MALIK B"
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Why does he deserve more credit? Granted he's kicked some nice verses, especially on Illadelph, but why does he deserve a bunch of credit for a few nice verses? The guy has had the oppurtunity to be in the best live band going right now, in any genre of music, and he shits on it because he's so fucked up. That doesn't deserve credit to me, that warrants a head examination. Malik is not a true member of the Roots, The Roots have made their living as a live band first and foremost and he is never there. Even when he is he's only there in body, not in spirit. I wonder if he'll even be on the next album at all, he's definitely getting phased out and I personally could care less. The Roots Crew will roll on without him. peace.

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22. "STFU!!!!"
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>Why does he deserve more credit?
>Granted he's kicked some nice
>verses, especially on Illadelph, but
>why does he deserve a
>bunch of credit for a
>few nice verses?

The guy
>has had the oppurtunity to
>be in the best live
>band going right now, in
>any genre of music, and
>he shits on it because
>he's so fucked up. That
>doesn't deserve credit to me,
>that warrants a head examination.
******And you don't need a mental magnifying glass,hmmmmm....

>Malik is not a true
>member of the Roots, The
>Roots have made their living
>as a live band first
>and foremost and he is
>never there.
*****Who the fuck are you,do you know their relationship????



Even when he
>is he's only there in
>body, not in spirit. I
>wonder if he'll even be
>on the next album at
>all, he's definitely getting phased
>out and I personally could
>care less. The Roots Crew
>will roll on without him.
>peace.
********wish you was in his shoes huh!!!
get a mopbucket yah scrub.......

yall motherfuckers kill me with this bullshit.You don't know that man,you don't know that mans fight,nor his situation,yet yall get swole like pimples on promnight.

CharlieParker was about as fucked up you can get,we make ODB look like a boyscout-eaglescout even.Still Charlie got his props
you may not approve of any artist lifestyle which alot are way morst than what you think you know about Malik B-As far as skills he put his foot in verses...
and the choice of him on the next plate is and will never be urs
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14. "honey im hooome! n/m"
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Nuwb or "blackness" is supreme balance before the chaos was introduced. It was a state of sound, right reasoning. That darkness was triple darkness, which is what you would call the absence of consciousness, or the state of being awoke. In actuality, the dream state is more real and peaceful than the chaos you meet once you are awake. A form of spiritual darkness responsible for the spark that turned on the light that is the life and intellect of all who breathe and think.
When the light is turned on again, the chaos begins. The differentiation begins. The separation begins. The rights and the wrongs, the goodness and the badness; the supreme balance is broken and the ego begins to verse the "I."

  

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19. "I THOUGHT..."
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MALIK WAS JUST AFRAID OF FLYING. LIKE HE GETS SICK AND STUFF(OR SOMETHIN'). :O

  

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:o

  

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21. "RE: I THOUGHT..."
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Then how would that explain his absences at almost all Philly shows, New York shows, D.C.shows, etc.? The Roots don't fly to all their shows, in fact, I don't believe they fly to most of them at least on the east coast. peace.

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26. "RE: I THOUGHT..."
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Yo....go read his bio in the artists section.....that way...you see what his deal is...it's right there...like I told ya'll before..
You just won't see him at many shows...that's his deal...
Like the other dude said...We don't know their relationship or their situation....the man's in the group for a reason obviously....cause he's tight like the rest...
NO need to get all worked up over it and say he's shitty and don't deserve to be in the group....that's jus nonsense...
But..for real...check out his bio....
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and got the pictures to prove it, here in NYC

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Indeed...............................
You guys kill me tho...I never said you wouldn't see him on stage.........






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no, you haven't seen him. thats the difference. i consider malik my iqwan, a brother. thats the differnece.
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31. "RE: i seen him on stage"
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And...like i said.....i never said no one has ever seen Malik......read please.....read.....jus cause i haven't don't mean shit...i've seen em three times...3 times ain't enough....so...
I never said that....but..you right..i've never seen him..
Read his bio...like i said....consider it a treat if you see him i suppose......

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40. "RE: i seen him on stage"
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Would it be safe to assume in that case that you were in attendence that night?
And if so, you obviously are convinced that that environment is halal...
I'm currently studying that issue so if you could, lemme holla at what you've got on that topic(music in general, but more specifically concerts) ---> fmqureshi@hotmail.com

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41. "RE: i seen him on stage"
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Nah....I wasn't there that night...i'm from VA...so..I've only seen the roots around here.....
what my thing was is that i was just readin his bio one day..and i saw this post about him not bein around....and i just simply said what is posted.....like so:

"what he doesn't do: shows"

That's all i was doin.......that's why I said....if you see him...i guess think of it as a treat.....

You can hit me up tho if you want......
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50. "check your inbox akhi"
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52. "Checked it dawg........didn't get nothin! Wassup???"
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35. "once in atlanta"
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when TFA came out i saw him perform. it was strange cause he didn't come on with everyone else, he was just hanging on the side then decided to come out halfway through the show.

just a thought...

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44. "M-illa-tant"
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Ayo, let's break this down....Whether or not he does shows or not, if Malik B was not an integral part of the roots...I'm sure they would've David Ruffin'd his ass out of the group a long time ago. Now, it is true that when I pay to see a roots show I would like to see the starting lineup, but if my man is out with injuries, then there's no way we could expect him to perform on the same level as the rest of the team, so they hold it down in his absence. Grant that man some solace. Don't say he's fucked up! Ask WHY is he fucked up! ANd offer your hand the next tiime you see his stankin ass!


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45. "RE: M-illa-tant"
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well said, n/m?

  

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papivocab

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46. "RE: M-illa-tant"
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thank you first of all. and this is totally off the subject, but what is 'n/m'?

  

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47. "RE: M-illa-tant"
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"nahmean"- know what i mean?

  

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51. "nm"
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or no message

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53. "RE: nm"
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That's what I always thought. "Knahmean" would be k/m.

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HoeJoe

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54. "RE: MALIK B"
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rumor has it that he is locked up. He's a good brother, always showed love when I was spinning at Cloud 9 (Philly). I hope he is well.

  

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