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"common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee..."


          

geto heaven 2 nods at this years VMA's.

rap video.
and
gasp!

breakthrough video.

whack ass motherfuckers!!!!!

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
hahahaha
Jul 23rd 2001
1
RE: hahahaha
Jul 24th 2001
56
      I actually like Macy Gray
Jul 26th 2001
66
RE: what the F*ck???
Jul 23rd 2001
2
RE: what the F*ck???
Jul 23rd 2001
7
Don't front on Blink n/m
Jul 23rd 2001
12
RES got a video comin out?
Jul 24th 2001
33
yo I kinda liked it (c) De La skit ....
Jul 23rd 2001
3
L:abel Guy...
Jul 23rd 2001
4
RE: your answer.....
Jul 23rd 2001
5
      Good lookin'
Jul 23rd 2001
10
      Propaganda is big things
Jul 23rd 2001
17
           ... well
Jul 23rd 2001
22
                RE: ... well
Jul 24th 2001
31
                ... since u care...
Jul 24th 2001
49
                     you know we gotta police our own bkyle!!!
Jul 26th 2001
65
                but what i really wanna do is direct
Jul 24th 2001
38
                     My reel
Jul 24th 2001
50
I thouht it was dope.
Jul 23rd 2001
6
RE: I thouht it was dope.
Jul 23rd 2001
24
      Bitch, leave me alone.
Jul 24th 2001
37
           LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO...
Jul 24th 2001
43
Still wack to me...
Jul 23rd 2001
8
RE: Blue 23, I'm witcha
Jul 26th 2001
67
stoke that fire boi!
Jul 23rd 2001
9
Love Com
Jul 23rd 2001
11
Overjoyed
Jul 23rd 2001
13
now that you mention it
Jul 23rd 2001
14
RE: Overjoyed
Jul 24th 2001
41
well
Jul 23rd 2001
15
Breakthrough?
Jul 23rd 2001
16
RE: Breakthrough?
Jul 23rd 2001
25
Its a Nod allright
Jul 23rd 2001
18
Uhh...MTV.com says
Jul 23rd 2001
19
speaking of videos
Jul 23rd 2001
20
hmmm....
Jul 23rd 2001
26
sheeeit....
madscientist
Jul 24th 2001
29
nope you're not trippin...
Jul 24th 2001
30
      RE: nope you're not trippin...
Jul 24th 2001
34
           he got 2
Jul 24th 2001
36
                RnB male??
Jul 24th 2001
44
                where do you get your info?
Jul 24th 2001
45
                RE: where do you get your info?
Jul 24th 2001
46
                No such category.
Jul 24th 2001
47
                RE: he got 2
Jul 24th 2001
52
rap AND hip-hop???!
Jul 23rd 2001
27
RE: common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee...
Jul 23rd 2001
21
I think I'm the only one...
Jul 23rd 2001
23
RE: I think I'm the only one...
Jul 24th 2001
42
      RE: I think I'm the only one...
Jul 24th 2001
55
RE: common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee...
Jul 23rd 2001
28
RE: common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee...
Jul 24th 2001
32
i knew there was a reason
Jul 24th 2001
35
duck.duck.goose
Jul 24th 2001
39
I liked it, but...
Jul 24th 2001
40
geto heaven p1
Jul 24th 2001
48
      Uhhh...
TheWallyChamp
Jul 24th 2001
51
      why we did it.
Jul 24th 2001
54
           RE: why we did it.
Jul 25th 2001
57
           RE: why we did it.
Jul 25th 2001
59
           wow.....
Jul 25th 2001
61
           RE: Kinda Makes sense Ahmir, but...
Jul 26th 2001
68
           ?uest Baby It's STEPPIN, Not 2-Step
theology111
Jul 26th 2001
69
whatever
Jul 24th 2001
53
oh lord
Jul 25th 2001
58
truest shit, too n/m
Jul 25th 2001
60
that's gotta hoyt!
Jul 25th 2001
62
RE: OHH SHITT!!!
Jul 26th 2001
70
I was stunned...
Jul 26th 2001
63
RE: common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee...
Jul 26th 2001
64

Shelly
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1. "hahahaha"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Macy Gray helped that one along.


You are on the right path to a hot bottom. Shrek

Shit happens

  

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Eli_B
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56. "RE: hahahaha"
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>Macy Gray helped that one along.


You're kidding, right? Macy Gray is whack, with her terrible, raspy-ass voice. If you ask me, the version with Macy Gray was garbage. I don't see what was wrong with the original album version with D. That's a million times better than the remix w/Macy Gray.


"The devil crept into
heaven/God overslept on
the seventh/the New World
Order was born on
September 11th" - Immortal
Technique

  

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Shelly
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66. "I actually like Macy Gray"
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but I was half serious and half joking about my comment. At the time of the video her popularity was running pretty high, so she MAY ( no proof just a theory) have giving him an audience that was ignoring him before.



You are on the right path to a hot bottom. Shrek

Shit happens

  

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2. "RE: what the F*ck???"
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>gasp!
>
>breakthrough video.

Wow, that's a suprise....."The Light" was more impactful to me, and MTV played it much more than "Geto Heaven". I'm glad Nzingha is getting recognized, she works hard (she just directed RES too).
The label is trippin cuz Blink & Shaggy got shut out while our boy Com get's the love.

LG
Doing my job since 1991

LG
Mark 11:24
Isaiah 54:17

  

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7. "RE: what the F*ck???"
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>The label is trippin cuz Blink
>& Shaggy got shut out
>while our boy Com get's
>the love.

goes to show my great label that sometimes it's always wise to invest in a lastfull (e.l.) investment....

and not chase moneyfalls.....


"right ted?"
-b brown 1989



check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Zeno
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12. "Don't front on Blink n/m"
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Z

OkayYoungin Representin'!

"Blindfolds can't cover three eyes,
We're wise to the fact so we attack with what we know
Heaven is the only good life" --Andre Benjamin

"I always exhale the facts cause I don't inhale lye" --Dave Jolicoeur

Getting Play:
Hi-Tek - Hi-Teknology
De La Soul - Stakes is High
Soundtrack - O Brother, Where Art Thou?
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33. "RES got a video comin out?"
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polar
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3. "yo I kinda liked it (c) De La skit ...."
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naw thaat video was kinda wack. Video award shows are even less meaningless than regualr music award shows, so try not to trip too much. But I guess good for Comm anyway, right? lol


"You don't make enough bread to soak up all your liquor" - Plug Won

"swim in the dangerous part,building with thirsty mammals/white men scream -'swim Starks sharks!'" - Tony Starks

"When I'm in the sound-proof booth I get loose" - Del.

"Is every nigga with dreds for the cause, is every nigga with gold for the fall? Naw, so don't get caught up in appearance. It's Outkast/Aquemini, part of the black experience." -Andre Ben.

"drugs are bad, mmmmkay?"

twice as dope as most mc's/roast mc's/who is they supposed to be - Del

  

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4. "L:abel Guy..."
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Ya buddy Brian Kyle here. Who is Nzingha signed with (agency)?

Running OKP and doing everything video wise is dope, but when things get rolling after I direct the video in August... I'm shopping for a rep.

Holla

Brian Kyle

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5. "RE: your answer....."
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Who
>is Nzingha signed with (agency)?

Wot up BKyle,

Propaganda Films - 323-802-7070

LG
Doing my job since 1991

LG
Mark 11:24
Isaiah 54:17

  

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10. "Good lookin'"
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I think Diane Martel and a host of other strong directors are with them also.

I'll be looking for a 'Roster of Directors' family soon. Thanks again.


Brian Kyle A.

Getting my ish together since 197? lol

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17. "Propaganda is big things"
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I hated that video she did for Memphic blink though

shes not really batting 1000 with the only thing i really loved that she did was Soul Sister and that was kind of a take off of something else im not sure

  

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22. "... well"
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... it is said that there are many other great Directors than the ones whose work we see. The trick, getting people to see your work to critique it. I don't knock 'Nzing... as i say, "Zing-Zing is workin her thing-thing".

She's doin it real big... and I wanna put it down on OKP real big. Yeah, that's it. Her "Love it" for Bilal was good, but "Soull Sista" was a take-on some still photo stuff from a female black&White shooter in New York. Beautful imagery, well conveyed on film... (but what the fu*k was that Memphis Weak, Mee, Bleek crap) Oh well... so long as the check cleared.

These are exciting times for us. Getting with an agency is my primary concern after completing a few more projects. (I like small budgets. They've humbled me. smile.)

Holla

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haji rana pinya
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31. "RE: ... well"
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'Nzing... as i say,
>"Zing-Zing is workin her thing-thing".
>


cmon bkyle....your letting me down man. you are a witty guy family. dont go out like this anymore.

pullease




(ahem)
......pull them panties up party's over.

haj

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49. "... since u care..."
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... I didn't put much effort into THAT one 'cause I'm tryin not to hate. The more I think of her in blaze-mode... the less witty I'll be about the topic. LOL. So with that, I keep it on the outside and hold fast to my course.

I too am on a mission... smarty-arty. smile.

Brian Kyle

and ugh...?
What's with the 'panties being down' thing?... if they are, I bet it wasn't only my idea to have em that way.

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65. "you know we gotta police our own bkyle!!!"
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aiight no more wack punchlines no matter how fine the punchee is and i will change my sig now.

(bkyle...only moderator reppin the chat?)

peace


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haj

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38. "but what i really wanna do is direct"
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yuk yuk yuk

you gotta reel

mind you im just asking cause im nosey


  

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50. "My reel"
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changes often since I do so much video stuff with the artists for the site.

In addition, the reel I do have aughta hold-on until I finish this upcoming music video. THAT is the one that needs to represent me as well.

The reel as it is now is pretty clever from what people have shared, but I wanna have it have the best of the best. 1 more minute... I-be-straight.

Brian Kyle A.

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6. "I thouht it was dope."
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If for no other reason than Com provimg he's the flyest nigga in hiphop.

---------------------------------------
RAP IS SOMETHING YOU DO. HIP-HOP IS SOMETHING YOU LIVE.

"The principles of true hip-hop have been forsaken, it's all contractual and about money makin'" - Black Thought.

"Ay yo Pharoah! Why don't you explain: How did Hip-Hop get caught up in this ill rap game?" - Prince Poetry

"I'm the assassinator of Rap" - Pharoah Monche.

"Rap is business music, Hip-Hop is cultural music" - Busta Rhymes

"...Even up the ratio of Hip-Hop to that shit they playin on the radio." - Talib Kweli

"Let's say I use my gift of gab to boast and brag in every rhyme I
compose. won't y'all get sick of that, cause I know I do when I hear those flows. That ain't hip-hop, you find that shit in the gift shop. But to each his own, my speech is gon', keep that shit up outta my zone." Andre 3000

Jordan!

  

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24. "RE: I thouht it was dope."
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>If for no other reason than
>Com provimg he's the flyest
>nigga in hiphop.

provimg...

Check the spelling, playa! You are the STILL the DUMBEST nigga postin' on these boards!!! hehehehe : :D

Is Com the flyest fella in Hip Hop??????

Ponder That!
JM

"At my funeral, I mean -Oh,my God!- at Biggie's funeral,..." - Lil' Kim, Vibe July 2001 :o:o:o can u believe it!?!?!?

"big OHIO status / what you thought, money?" - Talib Kweli - Train of Thought

"I make a point about you and you crew go TRUE DAT!" - Hi-Teknology - Get Back Remix feat. Talib Kweli

"these gassed up niggas just ain't fuel efficient" Mos Def - Double Trouble

Currently Spinning:

Aaliyah - Aaliyah
Hi-Tek - Hi-Teknology
Pru - Pru
D'Angelo - Voodoo (back in the mix)
Talib Kweli & DJ Hi-Tek:Reflection Eternal - Train Of Thought
Bilal - 1st Born Second (However I ALWAYS buy the album once it's officially released....whenever THAT is!)

  

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37. "Bitch, leave me alone."
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---------------------------------------
RAP IS SOMETHING YOU DO. HIP-HOP IS SOMETHING YOU LIVE.

"The principles of true hip-hop have been forsaken, it's all contractual and about money makin'" - Black Thought.

"Ay yo Pharoah! Why don't you explain: How did Hip-Hop get caught up in this ill rap game?" - Prince Poetry

"I'm the assassinator of Rap" - Pharoah Monche.

"Rap is business music, Hip-Hop is cultural music" - Busta Rhymes

"...Even up the ratio of Hip-Hop to that shit they playin on the radio." - Talib Kweli

"Let's say I use my gift of gab to boast and brag in every rhyme I
compose. won't y'all get sick of that, cause I know I do when I hear those flows. That ain't hip-hop, you find that shit in the gift shop. But to each his own, my speech is gon', keep that shit up outta my zone." Andre 3000

Jordan!

  

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43. "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO..."
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Ponder That!

Jill Marie

"At my funeral, I mean -Oh,my God!- at Biggie's funeral,..." - Lil' Kim, Vibe July 2001 :o:o:o can u believe it!?!?!?

"big OHIO status / what you thought, money?" - Talib Kweli - Train of Thought

"I make a point about you and you crew go TRUE DAT!" - Hi-Teknology - Get Back Remix feat. Talib Kweli

"these gassed up niggas just ain't fuel efficient" Mos Def - Double Trouble

Currently Spinning:

Aaliyah - Aaliyah
Hi-Tek - Hi-Teknology
Pru - Pru
D'Angelo - Voodoo (back in the mix)
Talib Kweli & DJ Hi-Tek:Reflection Eternal - Train Of Thought
Bilal - 1st Born Second (However I ALWAYS buy the album once it's officially released....whenever THAT is!)

  

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8. "Still wack to me..."
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sorry Quest, I am one of the biggest Com fans around. Respect as an artist and a person. That video/remix is embarrassingly wack to me. I can't even watch.

One,
BTW

  

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67. "RE: Blue 23, I'm witcha"
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Yeah, that thing was garbage, but at the end of the day, I guess it served its purpose. Macy Gray is an MTV darling, and having her in the video ultimately got Com the MTV love and thus the nomination. But yeah, the video and remix was "THE WACK", me and Label Guy have had heated chats about this in the recent past. I thought I was the only OKP to view it as wack, I expect much better from Com. But to paraphrase the Brother, "..he's changin'...times are"

  

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9. "stoke that fire boi!"
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comedy.

I *told* you i'd sneak him across the border w/ me ..lol

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11. "Love Com"
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But Ghetto Heaven was not cool.


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13. "Overjoyed"
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1.) I dug the remix and I dug the video from the start, so it's cool that it got a few nods.

2.) OKPs aren't tripping like "Oh, it grew on me, ?uest, great video". Way to stick to your guns.

Z

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"Blindfolds can't cover three eyes,
We're wise to the fact so we attack with what we know
Heaven is the only good life" --Andre Benjamin

"I always exhale the facts cause I don't inhale lye" --Dave Jolicoeur

Getting Play:
Hi-Tek - Hi-Teknology
De La Soul - Stakes is High
Soundtrack - O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Wilco - A.M.
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
Guru - Guru Presents Jazzmatazz Vol. II: A New Reality

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14. "now that you mention it"
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>2.) OKPs aren't tripping like "Oh,
>it grew on me, ?uest,
>great video". Way to
>stick to your guns.

That is pretty cool.

Because I like Com, and I like the director. I just didn't like the video. But time after time, I've shown that I'm just not clued in on what's hot.

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41. "RE: Overjoyed"
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word
i was about to be like damn man nobody liked it, the hell with you guys
but at least ya aint frontin on some bs, you tell the truth, i likes i likes
but yea i jammed hard to that shit
i felt it
congrats com

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15. "well"
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I think they likeded the staircase in the sky - and Com walking forever and ever and ever and ever up the stairs.
breakthrough indeed
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16. "Breakthrough?"
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didn't the Jackson Five have a video like that back in the day? where they were throwing glitter on people on some "can you feeeel it" shit?? That's what tje Geto Heaven clip Reminds me of anyways.
blah

maybe Com will wear that Sleeveless polar bear hoodie to the awards tho

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25. "RE: Breakthrough?"
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>didn't the Jackson Five have a
>video like that back in
>the day? where they were
>throwing glitter on people on
>some "can you feeeel it" ??

They sure did. That song is da lick!!! The vid was wild wasn't it??!!?

Ponder That!

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18. "Its a Nod allright"
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like a obligatory one

  

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19. "Uhh...MTV.com says"
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Best Rap Video
Eminem f/Dido, "Stan"
Nelly, "Ride Wit Me"
Jay-Z, "I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me)"
Ja Rule f/Lil' Mo & Vita, "Put It On Me"
Snoop Dogg, "Lay Low"

Best Hip-Hop Video
Outkast, "Ms. Jackson"
Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Get Ur Freak On"
Eve f/Gwen Stefani, "Let Me Blow Ya Mind"
City High, "What Would You Do?"
Black Eyed Peas f/Macy Gray, "Request Line"


Can anyone in the okp camp explain this, or should I start rooting for Snoop immediately?
Also, does anyone else think it was really nice of MTV to redefine what rap and hip-hop are for us? For those not aware, apparently rap music is what straight males do, and hip-hop music is what women and alleged homosexuals make.

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20. "speaking of videos"
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off topic but, i've always wondered who is the sister with the dreadz in the "mind sex" video...the brown brown sistah......man, she is beautiful...anybody know her name?

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26. "hmmm...."
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ok. i know that i aint trippin.

did i not talk to mtv connect today who read it to me?

am i going crazy?

will we add this to bushimi r.i.p. post and (what was the other false post i did?)

nah!!!!

fuckdat!!! i know what i was told today!!!

brb.

check the resume

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29. "sheeeit...."
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you're always starting rumors...fool!



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30. "nope you're not trippin..."
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you were just wrong...com got a nod for breakthrough video..(whatever the hel that means, the light made him a sex symbol on mtv and bet)...anywho

com gets snub from both hip-hop and rap category...aawwww well at leats sysco didn't get a nod this year for hip-hop.

that is all, return to your homes citizens

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34. "RE: nope you're not trippin..."
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>you were just wrong...com got a
>nod for breakthrough video..(whatever the
>hel that means, the light
>made him a sex symbol
>on mtv and bet)...anywho

breakthrough video is like a weird, artsy video that's freakin me out and, uh, "new" and "fresh" or sum shit. it's a breakthrough for video, not for the artist (you're thinkin like best new artist in a video? nikka costa and alicia keys are up for that one). it's also one of 'em categories they keep on the low. they actually announce it during the preshow, i saw last year. last year's contestants were bizarre, there was like this blur video with a little carton of milk with a smiley face wandering the streets of some big city (nyc maybe? i dunno). forget who won.

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36. "he got 2"
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breakthourgh (which to me is an honor for art in videos)

and RNB MALE!??!?! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha?!?!?!?!

oh well. bittersweet or not.

i'm proud of how long he came (we can debate til the cows come home on production, and music but i know y'all aint about to say that his early videos wern't nowhere near this good)

check the resume

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(from the ground up)-94
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44. "RnB male??"
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getdafuqouttatown

now i gotta go see who he's up against

that is the best comedy since sisqo in hip hop...wait a minute...can they trade? that way, come is guarenteed to win in RnB

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45. "where do you get your info?"
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am i on crack here, or is there no rnb male performer category? I just went to mtv.com, clicked on the main article about the music video awards, then clicked a link for the "complete list of 2001 nominees," and common's name was mnetioned once, for best hip-hop video for geto heaven. I didn't see any category for rnb male. am i missing something?

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46. "RE: where do you get your info?"
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i meant to say he recieved one nomination for best breakthrough video, not best hip hop video. sorry (i know it looks really bad to misspeak when im trying to point out a flaw in another person's argument, but is till don't see any category for best male rnb video)

rick

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47. "No such category."
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Who is telling you this stuff?

Slap that person. Whoever they are.

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"Simon says that your mind is requesting a lil' furlough/Let it find the answers to things that you always wanted to know"

"Everybody's got a thang, but some don't know how to handle it/Always reaching out in vain, just takin' the things not worth having"

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52. "RE: he got 2"
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the video for 'Soul by the Pound' was much more artistic....lol

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27. "rap AND hip-hop???!"
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they still dont get it.

peace.

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21. "RE: common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee..."
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The video was tight, but the music in my opinion was wack. i'm an avid common fan but i DTEST this remix. the original was dope as hell and seemed to go in a backwards motion with the music. but the video.... was REAL nice, camera work and effects were damn good. that's what the video awards are for though, images and not music, although it does help.

  

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23. "I think I'm the only one..."
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I think I'm the only one here that actually liked both, the T.S.O.I. remix and the video. I liked the way they did the video even though they bit the Jackson Five. Plus I like the remix because it was more up beat; everytime I heard it, it made me want to find a partner so we could step. I thought the remix brought his lyrics out more. I could pick out more of what he was saying compared to the sluggish and slow original (even though it did have a wicked bassline).

  

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42. "RE: I think I'm the only one..."
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im with u

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55. "RE: I think I'm the only one..."
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and also me too.

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28. "RE: common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee..."
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Like Com but still don't like the video.

  

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I liked the remix & the video, I dug the original better though. It was definitely a different flava


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35. "i knew there was a reason"
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i don't own a tv
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40. "I liked it, but..."
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I wish Common would have done another video w/D'Angelo and their version of, "Ghetto Heaven".. :-):-)!!!


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48. "geto heaven p1"
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was a million times better than 2.
i like macy and all; but d rippped up p1. plus why the hell did that song need to be so damn fast?? i liked the slow chilled version.

  

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51. "Uhhh..."
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...although the D version of Geto Heaven was released first, it is actually called Geto Heaven Pt.2. Just thought I'd let you know, buddy. The Macy Gray version is called Geto Heaven T.S.O.I.
And, you're right, it blows.

  

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54. "why we did it."
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we wanted to do some chicago shit to make mofo's 2step (old chitown move)

plus do an update of the sound of philadelphia (strings flutes et al)

i think people's expectations were thrown off as opposed to it "sucking".

i mean if one of the strings were off key
or if the flutes were flat
or i drag when i drum

then okay i could see it sucking.

but if u are a judge in a texas bar b que contest.....
and you are a vegetarian.
should you judge?

hey. there is shit i don't like that's considered classic (springstein, early u2,sex pistols, elvis) but i wouldn't dismiss it as "bad".

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
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57. "RE: why we did it."
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>>
we wanted to do some chicago shit to make mofo's 2step (old chitown move)

but if u are a judge in a texas bar b que contest.....
and you are a vegetarian.
should you judge?<<

hip hop video, i'm a hip hop lover from NWI. yeah i think i can.



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59. "RE: why we did it."
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I actually like the beat, I just don`t think it fits the song (or Common, for that matter) too well. And Macy? Sorry, but it`s gonna take a lot more than your and D`s approval and involvment (which usually would hold a lot of weight for me) to make me change my mind about her. She reminds me of Janis Joplin. And I hate Janis Joplin. I mean, I seriously hate that woman. Sometimes I wish Janis Joplin was still alive just so that I could kill her myself. Uh.. gotta go, time for my medication.

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61. "wow....."
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>we wanted to do some chicago
>shit to make mofo's 2step
>(old chitown move)
>
>plus do an update of the
>sound of philadelphia (strings flutes
>et al)



So the remix WAS meant for Chicago natives to step (2step) to. Mission accomplished......on that as well as capturing the T.S.O.P. sound.



  

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68. "RE: Kinda Makes sense Ahmir, but..."
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As a fan of music we set our own individual standards. So in my musical universe (and in yours), if it sucks to you, it sucks. I was listening to an Elvis CD that a co-worker was listening to, and he does suck. It sounds so obvious that he trying to imitate black folks.

I feel you on the Nostalgia thing (Chicago and Philly Respectively), the sentiment was good, but the outcome left alot to be desired.

Based on the set you threw down at that spot with Nelly Furtado on 7/18, we usually see eye to eye musically, especially with the Black President (throw on UnKnown Soldier and see what happens, but even being a huge fan of MFSB, Gamble and Huff etc., I couldn't get with that remix, still got mad love.

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theology111

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69. "?uest Baby It's STEPPIN, Not 2-Step"
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?uest let me make a correction for you my afro-picked one...in Chicago it's just 'Steppin'(the dance) or 'Dusty Steppin'(the music).....Two-step is in Kansas City...trust me it is not the same and some Chi-town steppers would cut 'cha for even confusing the two ...dont get cha ish shot up, okay?

On the real as a transplanted Chicagoan, much love for puttin it down on the stepper's set tip...that's exactly what I did when I heard the song...mission accomplished!

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Legend - Bob Marley
Fantastic - Slum Villiage
Songs in A Minor - Alicia Keys
Scorpion - Eve
Sex Machine Now mixtape - J-Rocc (Beat Junkies)
Great Gospel Remixes - various (mixes by Jr.Vasquez,Farley Jackmaster Funk et al)




  

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53. "whatever"
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Milli Vanilli and Jethro Tull won Grammies. That didn't make them suck any less.

The latest in blue screen technology, interacting with the screen saver from the next edition of Windows, is not a Breakthrough video.

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on an unrelated note, shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit--we the SHIZNIT.

now playing: bshelly's list of eternally cool things (in no particular order)

"Black Power", old school lunches, saying Scott Stevens is on "some MOP shit" ((c) DonKnutts), Ricky "the Dragon" Steamboat, Chowdafest, Maceo Parker, "Be My Baby", "what you don't have, you don't need it now", 4/20, blonds in sundresses, "Hey! How ya doin? Sorry you can't get through. Why doncha leave your name and your number, and I'll get back to you.", trading Tinky Winky's sorry-ass NHL 2001 character to the Wild and putting a bounty on his ass, and Fred "the Hammer" Nietzsche

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58. "oh lord"
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>The latest in blue screen technology,
>interacting with the screen saver
>from the next edition of
>Windows, is not a Breakthrough
>video.

that is the funniest shit i've read in a minute...


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60. "truest shit, too n/m"
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"Save the shit talking for when you actually do something significant (like make it to the Finals and actually win a game against the Lakers)." -zaheer on Sixers fans

on an unrelated note, shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit--we the SHIZNIT.

now playing: bshelly's list of eternally cool things (in no particular order)

"Black Power", old school lunches, saying Scott Stevens is on "some MOP shit" ((c) DonKnutts), Ricky "the Dragon" Steamboat, Chowdafest, Maceo Parker, "Be My Baby", "what you don't have, you don't need it now", 4/20, blonds in sundresses, "Hey! How ya doin? Sorry you can't get through. Why doncha leave your name and your number, and I'll get back to you.", trading Tinky Winky's sorry-ass NHL 2001 character to the Wild and putting a bounty on his ass, and Fred "the Hammer" Nietzsche

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.ā€¯ (c) The God

  

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62. "that's gotta hoyt!"
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>The latest in blue screen technology,
>interacting with the screen saver
>from the next edition of
>Windows, is not a Breakthrough
>video.

agree, though ...

|xxxii|skeleton·key|piano·in·the·dark|

  

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70. "RE: OHH SHITT!!!"
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>The latest in blue screen technology,
>interacting with the screen saver
>from the next edition of
>Windows...

THAT'S EXACTLY THE VIDEO TREATMENT THAT WAS TURNED IN A PICKED....VERBATIM !!! The even had Common & Macy Gray Colorforms which they stuck on the computer screen with the Space screen saver running to show us what they were talking about! We just KNEW it was gonna be a breakthrough vid !!!

LG
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63. "I was stunned..."
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I think the song and video were great. But it didn't get played a lot. Quite refreshing that a song with a decent message and great music got the nod...
Maybe it helped that Macy (a more commercially accepted artist was in it). Just ask BEP.

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64. "RE: common's wack ass video dupes nominating commitee..."
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I actually like the Macy grey version of the song better. I like that Disco/70's vibe it has but the video was wack. It reminds me of that campy Flash Gordon movie from the 80's.

  

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