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Steve
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"Phrenology is a bad title.."


  

          

just my opinion though, it just isnt a nice sounding word.
Plus its a theory of an early neuroscientist who thought different parts of the brain did the main 20 emotional expressions or something weird. I remember learning it at some point in school.
anyways though, just my opinion, but I think another title would be better.
How about "The Steve Album".
Just playing.
ok.
Just my thought ladies and gentleman just what I was feeling at the time (c) Jay-Z


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Subject Author Message Date ID
Oh and..
Sep 20th 2001
1
Phrenology
Sep 20th 2001
2
Yea but..
Sep 20th 2001
3
but if it is relevant to the mood of the album then....
Sep 20th 2001
4
i think this is a good title
soulquarian
Sep 20th 2001
5
??????????????
Sep 21st 2001
7
RE: ??????????????
Sep 21st 2001
21
i won't go that far
Sep 21st 2001
23
      I guess "The Id" was taken
Sep 21st 2001
26
      RE: i won't go that far
Sep 21st 2001
29
      RE: i won't go that far
Sep 21st 2001
39
           that's scratch's title
Sep 22nd 2001
55
concept album? n/m
Sep 21st 2001
9
Hey ?uest or anyone who knows
Sep 21st 2001
14
i dont think they were related
Sep 21st 2001
17
they were
Sep 21st 2001
30
RE: Hey ?uest or anyone who knows
Sep 21st 2001
42
RE: but if it is relevant to the mood of the album then....
Sep 21st 2001
18
how about...
Sep 21st 2001
27
RE: but if it is relevant to the mood of the album then....
Sep 21st 2001
48
Well,
Sep 21st 2001
6
RE: Well,
Sep 21st 2001
10
RE: Well,
Sep 21st 2001
19
RE: Well,
Sep 21st 2001
46
whew
Sep 21st 2001
24
Cosign like a muthafucka!!!
Sep 21st 2001
36
who am i to say?
Sep 21st 2001
8
RE: Phrenology is a bad title..
Sep 21st 2001
11
co-sign n/m
NoOne
Sep 21st 2001
25
phrenology question...
Sep 21st 2001
12
Does not sound as cool as things fall apart
Sep 21st 2001
13
RE: phrenology question...
naturalaw
Sep 21st 2001
15
RE: phrenology question...
Sep 21st 2001
41
better than Electric Circus
Sep 21st 2001
16
Grrrrrroan...
Sep 23rd 2001
64
Phrenology. Or is it...
Sep 21st 2001
20
HA! Good one.
Sep 21st 2001
22
since its called phrenology
Sep 21st 2001
28
perfect..haha
Sep 21st 2001
47
RE: "Ride-Or-Dieology".....I like that shit..........
Sep 21st 2001
31
it sounds too smart
Sep 21st 2001
32
Quest may have gave it a 2nd name.......
Sep 21st 2001
33
I agree w/ Steve and Naz
Sep 21st 2001
34
RE: I agree w/ Steve and Naz
Sep 21st 2001
35
      *shudder*
Sep 21st 2001
37
      Thats the point!
Sep 21st 2001
38
           HOW ABOUT THIS...
ugotsumbigteefs
Sep 21st 2001
40
           RE: Why are using my government name ?
Sep 21st 2001
45
                That was actually an honest mistake. I appologize.
Sep 22nd 2001
51
Stick with Chinua
Sep 21st 2001
43
isnt Phrenology quackery?
Sep 21st 2001
44
If y'all get this far....CONTEST....
Sep 21st 2001
49
RE: Phrenology is a bad title..
Sep 21st 2001
50
Critics Title
Sep 22nd 2001
52
yechhh....
Sep 23rd 2001
60
      in general i enjoy the times
Sep 23rd 2001
61
Phrenology =
Sep 22nd 2001
53
Heads, people!
Sep 22nd 2001
56
      collective "ooooooh" n/m
Sep 22nd 2001
57
      ehhhhh...
Sep 23rd 2001
58
RE: Phrenology is a bad title..
Sep 22nd 2001
54
i personally don't think ppl bought "who is jill scott???"...
Sep 23rd 2001
59
Zach De La Rocha album......
Sep 23rd 2001
62
RE: Man...........
Sep 23rd 2001
63
RE: Phrenology is a bad title..
Sep 24th 2001
65
uh.
Sep 24th 2001
66

Steve
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1. "Oh and.."
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Hiphopsite got confused..arent rock ya and pussy galore gonna be on masterpiece theater?
read:
The Roots next LP is beginning to take shape, and the group is scurrying to have it ready for a tentative June 2002 release date; titles being mentioned are Introducing The Roots, and Phrenology. They have currently recorded seven tracks, and want to complete at least five more. The group is also still debating on what track will be the lead-single, and the candidates right now are “Rock Ya”, and “Pussy Galore.” Meanwhile, Black Thought’s highly anticipated solo-LP has been given a tentative Feb 2002 release date.


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2. "Phrenology"
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the study of the conformation of the skull based on the belief that it is indicative of mental faculties and character (merriam webster)

  

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3. "Yea but.."
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It was this theory by this guy who thought like the skull had these little sections that had to do with your personality..and then people called him an idiot later.
I took neuroscience and occasionally I stayed awake during it.

LOL.

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4. "but if it is relevant to the mood of the album then...."
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g'head steve i dare you to delete your own post

(think hannible talking to dude while telling him to cut his face off with glass pieces)


no....i think it rolls of the tongue nicely

"for noll o gee"

cmon now...what did you want me to call this?

"da return"
"the roots 2000"
"roots 2.0"
"ride or die"
"roots forever"

i can respect your opinion. but what would you suggest based on the songs that we've done?


what's that steve?


you havn't heard the songs?


so you mean there may be a point of us calling this record


gasp!


PHRENOLOGY?!?!



steven wright tribute month.

the top 20 list.

1."curiosity killed that cat..........but for a while i was a suspect"

2." i was arrested once for walking in someone else's sleep"

3." i was walking through the forrest alone and a tree fell right in front of me......and i didn't hear it.........."

4."i bought some batteries.....but they weren't included."

5. "why is the alphabet in that order?.......is it because of that song?...the guy who wrote that song wrote everything.

6. "why is it a penny for your thoughts, but you have to put your two cents in?....somebody's making a penny...."

7. "i like to tease my plants when i water them....i water them with ice cubes"

8."for my birthday i got a humidifier and a dehumidifier.......put em in the same room and i let em fight it out......."

9. "....so i told her i knew i was gonna die cause there is an expiration date on my birth certificate...."

10. "i got some powdered water but i don't know what to add..."

11. "i got an answering machine for my phone, now when i'm not home when someone calls they get a recording of a busy signal."

12. "i have a map of the united states, it's an actual size.......1 mile equals 1 mile....they ask me where i live and i say 'e-5'.

13. "i broke a mirror in my house, supposed to get 7 years bad luck......my lawyer thinks that he can get me 5"

14. "got home the other day and everything in my house had been stolen, and replaced with an exact replica......couldn't believe it!........called my friend said 'look at this stuff! it's all an exact replica what do you think?'.....he said 'do i know you?'"

15."my girlfriend has a queen sized bed.....i have a court jester sized bed..."

16. "i hate when my foot falls asleep in the day cause that means it will be up all night."

17. "one time i went to a drive in, in a cab....movie cost me $95.00"

18. "just got out of hospital....i had a speed reading accident"

19. "one time in the middle of a job interview i took out a book and i started reading......guy said "what the hell are you doing?!" i said 'listen lemme ask you one question, if you were in a vehicle traveling at the speed of light, then you turned your lights on what would happen?' he said 'i don't know--' i said 'forget it then, i don't want to work for you'".

20. "i put instant coffee into a microwave over and i almost went back in time"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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soulquarian

Thu Sep-20-01 11:51 PM

  
5. "i think this is a good title"
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phrenology? this is a good title.

it makes me think to a revolutionary , deep, conscious, experimental album.

while "introducing the roots" sounds like a gangsta album....

do u think the roots are a gangsta band?

hey ?uest, use the title u like, but please...give us our album as soon as possible!!!!!

peace from italy

  

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7. "??????????????"
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>phrenology? this is a good title.
>
>
>it makes me think to a
>revolutionary , deep, conscious, experimental
>album.

I dont see how, maybe Im really gonna have to study this word because when seeing it defined before it seemed like it didnt relate to music at all. Im sure they know what theyre doing though, every other title was simpler than this one and made sense.



>while "introducing the roots" sounds like
>a gangsta album....
>
>do u think the roots are
>a gangsta band?

here is where you lost me. say you soulquarian had an act, maybe yall were named the soulquarianos or something (dont wanna get confused with the jay dee, bilal, com, erykah and them), yall paid dues for years, made damn good music, had a fan base but never got what yall deserved.

grammy night comes michael stipe is presenting your joint and says "well in theory the winner is the soulquarianos"

all the work you've put in and you just win a grammy, yet close to half the people at the staples center either dont know your act or havent heard of them till recently.

introducing the roots was clever as shit considering how long theyve been around yet are just becoming familiar faces to those outside of concert venues.

now introducing the soulquarianos, THAT would have been a gangster title.



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21. "RE: ??????????????"
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Hey, good call! Why don't they call it "In Theory"? That sounds deep, and is an inside joke for everybody in the know...

  

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23. "i won't go that far"
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>it makes me think to a
>revolutionary , deep, conscious, experimental
>album.


but we are scratching the surface of our id.


steven wright tribute month.

the top 20 list.

1."curiosity killed that cat..........but for a while i was a suspect"

2." i was arrested once for walking in someone else's sleep"

3." i was walking through the forrest alone and a tree fell right in front of me......and i didn't hear it.........."

4."i bought some batteries.....but they weren't included."

5. "why is the alphabet in that order?.......is it because of that song?...the guy who wrote that song wrote everything.

6. "why is it a penny for your thoughts, but you have to put your two cents in?....somebody's making a penny...."

7. "i like to tease my plants when i water them....i water them with ice cubes"

8."for my birthday i got a humidifier and a dehumidifier.......put em in the same room and i let em fight it out......."

9. "....so i told her i knew i was gonna die cause there is an expiration date on my birth certificate...."

10. "i got some powdered water but i don't know what to add..."

11. "i got an answering machine for my phone, now when i'm not home when someone calls they get a recording of a busy signal."

12. "i have a map of the united states, it's an actual size.......1 mile equals 1 mile....they ask me where i live and i say 'e-5'.

13. "i broke a mirror in my house, supposed to get 7 years bad luck......my lawyer thinks that he can get me 5"

14. "got home the other day and everything in my house had been stolen, and replaced with an exact replica......couldn't believe it!........called my friend said 'look at this stuff! it's all an exact replica what do you think?'.....he said 'do i know you?'"

15."my girlfriend has a queen sized bed.....i have a court jester sized bed..."

16. "i hate when my foot falls asleep in the day cause that means it will be up all night."

17. "one time i went to a drive in, in a cab....movie cost me $95.00"

18. "just got out of hospital....i had a speed reading accident"

19. "one time in the middle of a job interview i took out a book and i started reading......guy said "what the hell are you doing?!" i said 'listen lemme ask you one question, if you were in a vehicle traveling at the speed of light, then you turned your lights on what would happen?' he said 'i don't know--' i said 'forget it then, i don't want to work for you'".

20. "i put instant coffee into a microwave over and i almost went back in time"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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26. "I guess "The Id" was taken"
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heh.

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29. "RE: i won't go that far"
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uhmm why don't you call it rootsiology, it's a combination both title's and people will stop naggin bout it
lmao nah I don't care about the name only about the releasedate....
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39. "RE: i won't go that far"
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>but we are scratching the surface
>of our id.

Congratulations. You've just found your albums title.

The Roots: Scratching The Surface

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55. "that's scratch's title"
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> The Roots: Scratching The
>Surface

better album title for a scratch solo jawn, doncha think?

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9. "concept album? n/m"
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14. "Hey ?uest or anyone who knows"
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What did "things fall apart" (and the different album covers) have to do with the songs?

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Black people unite
And let's all get down
We got to have what?
Love peace and understanding
One God, One Love, One Light
One Aim, One Voice, One Fight
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17. "i dont think they were related"
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they just made for one of the best advertising campaigns ever. the title represented their stance, but the covers were just eye catching and made you stop in your place


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30. "they were"
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i may be wrong. but there was something falling apart (or had fallen apart) on each of the covers. It was more than just an eye catching marketing scheme. although it was one hell of an eye catching marketing scheme

the title for the new jawn should be "Fuck you, pay me"

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42. "RE: Hey ?uest or anyone who knows"
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Things fall apart
and tend to shatter. (c) You got me

I believe the band knew that "You got me" would be THE big hit on the record, so they used a line from the "best" song to name the album.

Eric B and Rakim use to do it all the time.

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18. "RE: but if it is relevant to the mood of the album then...."
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ok true LOL.

But I am looking at is as far as it being a title..its kinda like when common wanted to name his album that longass title..it coulda had something to do with the music but it wasnt a good title.
But yea, I mean if the songs all reflect the concept of the title than thats cool.
I was just saying, not like I want yall to call it Roots La Familia LOL.
but damn stop mentioning that you've recorded the songs, I want to hear them damnit LOL.
Aight maybe I should delete my own post .



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27. "how about..."
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Roots! In Technocolor!
5th

  

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48. "RE: but if it is relevant to the mood of the album then...."
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Even though I think Phrenology is a great title, Y not "Da Return" or "The Roots Return" or

"Long live The..."


"Revenge of..."


jus a ew nonesense suggestions....






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6. "Well,"
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I truly believe that the average hiphop head in the street listening to hot 97 is pretty dumb. They'll hear that word, get intimidated, and say "fuck that wack hippie shit" like they do now.
That title alone will scare off alot of potential consumers...leaving the Roots with their standard pseudo-intellectual, backpacking, white guy freshman in college (sorry steve), Headwrapping audience that they already have.
Those titles ?uest mentioned "____ 2001,"" _____ forever," and Ride or Die are easily understood by the average target market. People can understand what they mean, so they assume that they'll understand whats on the CD when they pop it into their CD player.
It *is* that deep. With the exception of an Outkast...who can get away with naming an album "aquemini" or "stankonia" only because they have a reputation for being a little more on the oddball side of things...the title is a very important part of the marketing and promotion of an album. Phrenology (if thats how you spell it) would probably be great for a rock album...but for the Roots?
I havent heard any of it yet, and I have no idea how much is done. Honestly, it would be great if I heard some of it, and immediately realized *why* this title for the album makes so much sense. But without having heard any of it, all i'm left with is what i've heard from the roots in the past, and this new title that just doesnt seem to fit.
David Geffen would have *loved* the title. But the roots arent Guns N Roses or Whitesnake, either.
Just my opinion.
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10. "RE: Well,"
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Yeah I argee hometeam. Dumb down the title for the masses.

  

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19. "RE: Well,"
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> That title alone will scare
>off alot of potential consumers...leaving
>the Roots with their standard
>pseudo-intellectual, backpacking, white guy freshman
>in college (sorry steve), Headwrapping
>audience that they already have.
>

Damn Naz, wanna fight? LOL. You are saying kinda what I was meaning to say though.


> Those titles ?uest mentioned "____
>2001,"" _____ forever," and Ride
>or Die are easily understood
>by the average target market.
> People can understand what
>they mean, so they assume
>that they'll understand whats on
>the CD when they pop
>it into their CD player.
>
> It *is* that deep.
>With the exception of an
>Outkast...who can get away with
>naming an album "aquemini" or
>"stankonia" only because they have
>a reputation for being a
>little more on the oddball
>side of things...the title is
>a very important part of
>the marketing and promotion of
>an album. Phrenology (if
>thats how you spell it)
>would probably be great for
>a rock album...but for the
>Roots?
> I havent heard any of
>it yet, and I have
>no idea how much is
>done. Honestly, it would
>be great if I heard
>some of it, and immediately
>realized *why* this title for
>the album makes so much
>sense. But without having
>heard any of it, all
>i'm left with is what
>i've heard from the roots
>in the past, and this
>new title that just doesnt
>seem to fit.
> David Geffen would have *loved*
>the title. But the roots
>arent Guns N Roses or
>Whitesnake, either.
> Just my opinion.
> Naz
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46. "RE: Well,"
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yeah but dont the roots pride themselves on not dumbing down their shit to a bunch of suburban kids or 14 year olds?

that would be pretty damn hypocritical



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24. "whew"
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at least was another goddamn BLUECHIP post...

lol



steven wright tribute month.

the top 20 list.

1."curiosity killed that cat..........but for a while i was a suspect"

2." i was arrested once for walking in someone else's sleep"

3." i was walking through the forrest alone and a tree fell right in front of me......and i didn't hear it.........."

4."i bought some batteries.....but they weren't included."

5. "why is the alphabet in that order?.......is it because of that song?...the guy who wrote that song wrote everything.

6. "why is it a penny for your thoughts, but you have to put your two cents in?....somebody's making a penny...."

7. "i like to tease my plants when i water them....i water them with ice cubes"

8."for my birthday i got a humidifier and a dehumidifier.......put em in the same room and i let em fight it out......."

9. "....so i told her i knew i was gonna die cause there is an expiration date on my birth certificate...."

10. "i got some powdered water but i don't know what to add..."

11. "i got an answering machine for my phone, now when i'm not home when someone calls they get a recording of a busy signal."

12. "i have a map of the united states, it's an actual size.......1 mile equals 1 mile....they ask me where i live and i say 'e-5'.

13. "i broke a mirror in my house, supposed to get 7 years bad luck......my lawyer thinks that he can get me 5"

14. "got home the other day and everything in my house had been stolen, and replaced with an exact replica......couldn't believe it!........called my friend said 'look at this stuff! it's all an exact replica what do you think?'.....he said 'do i know you?'"

15."my girlfriend has a queen sized bed.....i have a court jester sized bed..."

16. "i hate when my foot falls asleep in the day cause that means it will be up all night."

17. "one time i went to a drive in, in a cab....movie cost me $95.00"

18. "just got out of hospital....i had a speed reading accident"

19. "one time in the middle of a job interview i took out a book and i started reading......guy said "what the hell are you doing?!" i said 'listen lemme ask you one question, if you were in a vehicle traveling at the speed of light, then you turned your lights on what would happen?' he said 'i don't know--' i said 'forget it then, i don't want to work for you'".

20. "i put instant coffee into a microwave over and i almost went back in time"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
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36. "Cosign like a muthafucka!!!"
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Exactly! Roots need to heed that shit.

  

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8. "who am i to say?"
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what is good?
what is bad?
what appeals to the market?
what has been done before?

what have we already accomplished?
where do we want to go from here?

phrenology, gastrointestinacology
who am i to say?

make music.
release it.
worry about petty details later.


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11. "RE: Phrenology is a bad title.."
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I personally thought "Introducing The Roots" was clever & catchy

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25. "co-sign n/m"
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12. "phrenology question..."
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is phrenology now gonna include some of the black thought solo album material?

i know i read that Thought's album is on the backburner again...

i know i read that Phrenology may contain "hits"...

i know i read that Phrenology is gonna showcase goodies from each member's grab-bag...

so...wouldn't it make sense to tie the two together??

i can easily imagine a situation in which BT would be unable to complete a "solo" album to his own satisfaction...without the support of his hometeam. Enter The Roots...adding their own individual spins to make a complete, well-rounded masterwork...


  

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13. "Does not sound as cool as things fall apart"
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15. "RE: phrenology question..."
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phrenology, son
best title since immobilarity, son
mad provocative, son
waitaminute;
one thing though- son
that cat black thought?
need to change his name...
'verbal foul hawk'
yeah- 'VFH' masticatin' perambulously on the phrenology joint

...bleedin' son, bleedin'...

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41. "RE: phrenology question..."
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I think you're right dude I bet BT wont have a solo album, they are going to pour his shit like pussy galore etc into the roots next LP. Also, if this wasn't true we'd have heard about it now, but as anyone noticed all the secrecy going on with BT's album and the roots new one? You dont see that kind of stuff with Dilated, Common, etc. Something's up thats why.

  

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16. "better than Electric Circus"
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I can see LG pulling his hair out right now.

Well, if there's "hits" on it, people will go LEARN what it means.

If not, few will care how cohesive the album is.

Oh well. I'm all for openmindedness.

Hey, how 'bout a subtitle?

Phrenology: for true heads.

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64. "Grrrrrroan..."
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>Hey, how 'bout a subtitle?
>
>Phrenology: for true heads.

People like you who make jokes like this should be banned, though. I mean that.

But seriously, folks...Phrenology???!!! This is the first time I'm hearing about this potential name and, although I'm sure the music is going to be great as usual, I think this title is pretty stupid. ?uest posted here before about, Well what if it makes sense with the music etc. etc...fair enough, I suppose. But when I think phrenology (which doesn't happen often, I assure you), I think of some crackpot nerdy scientist with a dumb idea who ended up being a laughingstock. It's like Rorschach (sp.?) tests, only dumber. In the end, Mr. ? knows best, but my gut reaction, for whatever its worth, is find another title. Whatever. I'll still buy it even if you name it after the labor of love of a nerdy crackpot.


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20. "Phrenology. Or is it..."
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"For knowledge, G!"

Droppin it.

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22. "HA! Good one."
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maybe...

Or is it, "free knowledge, G." Which would be closer to the correct pronunciation.

Oh well.

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28. "since its called phrenology"
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will it have deep verses about brain activity and the thought process?

The cover could be a brain growing out of the ground, ie the brain comes out of the roots, etc. Or a black brain - as in black thought!

(I just hope its more than a title)

  

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47. "perfect..haha"
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phenology was a fluke..people laughed at the poor dude..although it was believed to be on point in what? 1600..ha...so you're saying..this shit is on point now..but in a few hundred years..they're gonna laugh at you?...ahhh! perfect...go for it...*rolls eyes*

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31. "RE: "Ride-Or-Dieology".....I like that shit.........."
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now that's what I'm talking about.....it'll cover all the bases.

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32. "it sounds too smart"
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even though it is, and the people making the music are. I've gotta agree with nazdak. when you first look at the word, you're not totally sure how its pronounced, and sounds all intellectual and shit, which it is, but people may be turned off by it. whatever. i don't care much. its the content that counts.
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33. "Quest may have gave it a 2nd name......."
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"Scratching the Surface"........sounds decent to me!


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34. "I agree w/ Steve and Naz"
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Phrenology would be a fine title if the fans who got theRoots the plaque and the grammy were your loyal following. but these are new fans who are still new too theRoots' music (this is why I think Introducing... was a perfect title) and naming the album something that will alienate the newer fans before they even take a listen might make them think that "you got me" was a fluke.. i'd like to think that the average listener is more open minded than that but ....


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35. "RE: I agree w/ Steve and Naz"
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You guys are starting to sound like record company people.....

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37. "*shudder*"
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Maybe you have taught them too well.

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38. "Thats the point!"
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Give me a job in that marketing department so I can help yall out already tim! Turn the Music Cemetary of America into Musics Crowning Achievment!
Until then...i'll be running my own little company....
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40. "HOW ABOUT THIS..."
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The Roots 2: Electric Bugaloo

  

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45. "RE: Why are using my government name ?"
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> Give me a job in
>that marketing department so I
>can help yall out already
>tim!

I'm watching you young buck......

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43. "Stick with Chinua"
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I think No Longer At Ease would have been a great title. I know that none of these people have ever heard any of the music on the album, but it kind of describes the current situation of the Roots. As they continue to succeed and have a greater spotlight shown on them, as did the character in the book, it becomes increasingly more difficult to do what they want to do. ?, was it ever even a consideration?

pretend to be cats don't seem to know they limitations
exact replication and false representation

  

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44. "isnt Phrenology quackery?"
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to be honest, i thought that wasnt the best title when i first heard it too...

i mean, i have no idea what direction Roots crew is going for the 2001 season but yeah, catchy titles help albums stay in people's heads... OUTKAST's titles are different, but easy to swallow once you hear it the first time and go huh?! whats an Akweminni, whuddyfuck is a Stayankoneeuh, A-Liens with an T?....

and that first album title... southernokayplayalistenthistitleissolongyoullneverforgetitwebetterbeDOPEtodosomethinglikethissobuythealbumcauseweresomesouthernPIMPSonthemicwithFATbeatsandwehaveCOOLnameslikeBigBoi

?uest, call it "Growing Pains and Pleasures"

from what i know of the little infomation that escapes, i say that fits (but what do i know)

  

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49. "If y'all get this far....CONTEST...."
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Why don't y'all hold a contest, exclusively for registered Okayplayers to enter to come up with the title.

Rules could be worked out, but it should be limited to okayplayers who have registered log-in names by a certain date -- just to make sure nobody fradulent tries to enter.

I already got my entry....

What? You thought I was gon' tell you?

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50. "RE: Phrenology is a bad title.."
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OK...I like it, but why don't they name it something that makes sense to everyone.

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this is the kind of title that music critics will eat up.

unusual word that connects thematically to the album.

I smell a NY Times full page spread on in the Arts & Leisure section when this album finally drops

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60. "yechhh...."
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...it'll be fucking Ann Powers.
Or, there's a small possibility they'd entrust it to one of the many mediocre hiphop critics out there.

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61. "in general i enjoy the times"
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well their jazz pieces anyways, today's had a nice piece on coltrane.

there was also that piece awhile back that had ?uest in it. I think it was about the state of soul music, was pretty good.

And in any case its better than the New Jersey Star Ledger

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53. "Phrenology ="
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The study of personality and the brain by the bumps on the head.

So, what the f does that have to do with hip-hop?

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"This album is by far the greatest piece of writing, arranging, producing, and sequencing genius I've ever encountered. Anyone who has heard the first two Swamp Dogg albums will possibly say impossible, but after listening to this one will make the cross-over to incredible. The only album that may possibly compare with this one is the one that I'm contemplating doing the late future. Everything that is neccessary to make an album I have; Ego, talent, originality, humor, and I am dynamic, articulate, defiant, altruistic, considerate, warm, wonderful, & humble... I have also been a Grammy nominee for the past two years. I'm also a Cancer (July 12) and twenty nine years in the world. What you've just read is my trip, and if you can't tolerate it, that's your trip."
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56. "Heads, people!"
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They're studying HEADS!

Hip-hop heads? True heads?

Ahhhh, fuck it.

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57. "collective "ooooooh" n/m"
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58. "ehhhhh..."
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Go with "Introducing the Roots". I feel like most people can't even say "Phrenology"...

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"This album is by far the greatest piece of writing, arranging, producing, and sequencing genius I've ever encountered. Anyone who has heard the first two Swamp Dogg albums will possibly say impossible, but after listening to this one will make the cross-over to incredible. The only album that may possibly compare with this one is the one that I'm contemplating doing the late future. Everything that is neccessary to make an album I have; Ego, talent, originality, humor, and I am dynamic, articulate, defiant, altruistic, considerate, warm, wonderful, & humble... I have also been a Grammy nominee for the past two years. I'm also a Cancer (July 12) and twenty nine years in the world. What you've just read is my trip, and if you can't tolerate it, that's your trip."
-- Swamp Dogg, from the liner notes to his album, "Cuffed, Collared, & Tagged"

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54. "RE: Phrenology is a bad title.."
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Sounds pretty nerdy. Keep it Simple, Stupid (Now that's a title)

  

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59. "i personally don't think ppl bought "who is jill scott???"..."
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because deep down in the resources of their beings that had to know who in the fuck that girl was
do hip~hop artists truly try to sell albums based on titles alone???
like if u were orderin frum BMG or columbia house???
i thought titles alone only sold jazz





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62. "Zach De La Rocha album......"
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should be called phrenology, because thats a shitty album title and his album is definitely gonna be garbage unless his band takes him back.........


I don't really give a fuck what its called, just leak some of it so I can hear it people.....



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63. "RE: Man..........."
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Y'all are really beginning to sound like record company people.......

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65. "RE: Phrenology is a bad title.."
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ahh, it's coming clearer now... 's all about feeling heads.
i'm down with REDeye. the roots are feeling heads and therefore coing with the sh*t they know heads feel...
prolly. maybe.

  

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66. "uh."
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get your nerd-rap stigma on.


scholar back.

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