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"Roots Fans Within The Industry?"


  

          

So far From the left (mos def, kweli, common, q-tip, etc.) to the right (Puff, Jay-Z, recently reported Kevin Liles, Lyor Cohen) and all in between, everyone seems to love the group. They've become the standard for true artistry.

2 part post:

1) Anyone else we'd be surprised to hear about show love?

2) (this may be a bit rhetorical) If the group gets this much love from so many in the business, why's MCA fronting so hard on them as well as Motive?


  

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Janet Jackson
Jan 15th 2002
1
RE: Roots Fans Within The Industry?
Jan 15th 2002
2
More moby than the roots
Jan 16th 2002
14
Moby more than the Roots
Jan 16th 2002
15
my answers:
Jan 15th 2002
3
because they aren't the roots, or
Jan 15th 2002
6
good point
Jan 15th 2002
7
i could see that
Jan 16th 2002
11
unless your name is Miles
Jan 16th 2002
12
      Radiohead
Jan 16th 2002
16
RE: my answers:
Jan 22nd 2002
23
julia styles
Jan 15th 2002
4
RE: julia styles
Jan 22nd 2002
19
      Yeah I saw her
Jan 22nd 2002
21
no love from motive
Jan 15th 2002
5
Motive is self operated
Jan 15th 2002
9
RE: Roots Fans Within The Industry?
Jan 15th 2002
8
Trick Daddy
Jan 17th 2002
17
RE: The Lyricist from the group Schematix
Jan 15th 2002
10
Artist's Artists
Jan 16th 2002
13
how many artists....
Jan 17th 2002
18
but they sell
Jan 22nd 2002
20
RE: Artist's Artists
turnstyleNYC
Jan 22nd 2002
22
RE: Roots Fans Within The Industry?
Jan 22nd 2002
24

sundasill
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1. "Janet Jackson"
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Industry-wise they are accepted thus the grammy..nm it's just the attention shortage spanding mentality of the inner youth are more concentrated towards Bow,Fab,and all the other distractions.




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2. "RE: Roots Fans Within The Industry?"
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beautiful Natalie Portman is a fan and chills backstage with them during shows.

Nelly Furtado is/does as well

Moby - he chose them for area1

  

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14. "More moby than the roots"
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15. "Moby more than the Roots"
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She dated Moby. Friend of a friend who's in Episode 2 let me know (he was at area one too, we werem't just gossiping about Natalie Portman's relationships . . . really, we weren't).


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3. "my answers:"
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>1) Anyone else we'd be surprised
>to hear about show love?

sometimes -- when i hear of artists and labelheads that cater to a more mainstream/pop audience, i'm always a little surprised because most of them give off the impression that they have little to no knowledge of anyone outside the mainstream.

>2) (this may be a bit
>rhetorical) If the group gets
>this much love from so
>many in the business, why's
>MCA fronting so hard on
>them as well as Motive?

'cause MCA is a major label full of dunderheads.

a 3rd question, though:

how can so many people think the Roots are so great (or at least aware of their committment to the art)and continue to churn out mediocre material?

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6. "because they aren't the roots, or"
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that's not their style. Nelly for example. He has said he's a fan of the roots (hasn't he?), but do you think he's suddenly going to be inspired by them, and his work is going to be a hell of a lot better than it is? Just cause someone may like the roots, it doesn't mean that they're work is going to change for the better. they are limited by their individual talent also. Like, i like looking at graffiti, and graphic design, but my own personal amateur talent limits me from doing what my idols do.
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7. "good point"
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and the last thing i'd wanna hear is a gaggle of Roots/Thought clones, but in general, mediocrity plagues hip hop.

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11. "i could see that"
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on the real....

nelly is the best fuser of both styles....

he got the midwest shit on lidock.

and he got the scattin thing down.

i mean i don't lose my mind like "OH SHIT!!! ROCK THE BELLS IS ON!!!!!!!"

but i aint mad at him either....




if i ever went solo, my favorite drummer would be me bragging sig:

"How great are the Roots live? Their drummer.oh my god, he's such a great
drummer. He's so good. So good! Such a great drummer. Is he one of those
musicians that knows how to play everything? He's such a great drummer. I
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check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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12. "unless your name is Miles"
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the work of a contemporary is not going to have a huuuuuuge impact on you

The Roots influence will be seen int he next generation

In not only their music but how they utilize the internet

mark my words

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16. "Radiohead"
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23. "RE: my answers:"
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>how can so many people think
>the Roots are so great
>(or at least aware of
>their committment to the art)and
>continue to churn out mediocre
>material?

Cause not everyone is an envelope pusher. SOme folks like for the precedent to be set so they can follow suit, not to mention the fact that some people feel the route they are taking is a guaranteed check as opposed to the avant garde route where it takes time for the masses to understand and digest what you're doing. But many of the so called "leftist" groups (i.e. the Jay-Z's and the Puffy's were some of the first's in their field doing what they do no matter how ignant you may think it is.) So they should get some credit as well. Those cats were at the forefront of what I call "the bling factor" that has become quite prevalent (sp) in hip-hop.


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4. "julia styles"
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i think? she likes alot of people "we" like, for instance blackalicous so, shes a safe bet as roots fan.

  

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19. "RE: julia styles"
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Julia was at the first Okayplayer tour show in NYC. I saw her, fell in died from the love.....then Erykah came on and resurrected me with her beauty (c:

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21. "Yeah I saw her"
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I was kind of suprised. I think I've seen her at other shows too.

  

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5. "no love from motive"
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damn how you not going to get any lover from the very label you run. uh, correct me if i am wrong, but isn't motive the the label that belongs to the roots and not the label the roots belong to. it doesn't probably matter since it seems that Motive is underneath MCA which doesn't appear to be letting Motive have its own budget or run semi-autonomously.

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9. "Motive is self operated"
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but you can say MCA "owns" them, and shows them no support is what i was saying

  

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8. "RE: Roots Fans Within The Industry?"
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i cant tell you where i heard this from but i have a memory of Method Man giving mad love, i think he had great things to say about illadelphhalflife when it dropped


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17. "Trick Daddy"
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Was inspired by the Roots "You got me" when he wrote his "socially concious" jawn "America". He wrote his rhymes to the Roots beat. Chris Webber and Rasheed Wallace too.

  

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10. "RE: The Lyricist from the group Schematix"
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He loves the roots and even named his godson after ?uestlove. He always wanted to do a Callab with them!!!


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13. "Artist's Artists"
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The Roots are that type of band that make incredible music but dont really connect with the record buying public for a variety of reasons.

THey arent the first to be in this situation and they arent the last

But the fans they do connect with get inspired beyond belief because the music hits them so hard. They "get it", and then they drive 15 hours to go see the Lincoln Center show(i've heard two different people are doing it so far, prob. more)

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18. "how many artists...."
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say radiohead is their favorite band. they still don't get on mtv.





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20. "but they sell"
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The Bends - Platinum
Pablo Honey - Platinum
Okay Computer - Platinum
Kid A - Platinum
Amenisiac - Platinum

Radiohead(at least recently) is more a of critics band, than an artist's artist.

The critics create this tremendous buzz, so they can still push units without having a ton of airplay.


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22. "RE: Artist's Artists"
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Yea. Know how many big artists were chilling backstage at the Lincoln center show? Tons. And record industry people in the crowd? fugettaboutit! The music industry (okay, maybe not MCA) loves The Roots. So does the media, artists, rappers(jay-z!). so why don't they sell really well? well, that's a mystery to me. I guess they don't connect well with the general public or something. (MCA...blah..blah...blah). whatever, though. they truly know how to rock a show beyond belif, and i hope this next album does it for them...


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24. "RE: Roots Fans Within The Industry?"
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The Roots is model music that will be legendary, but may never gain "bling bling" profitability. I am sure though that they will reach multi platinum status sometime soon =).

The Roots is that kind of music they will play in the backround cause its soothing and real. One such case is when "You Got Me" was sampled for a bath product commercial in France. I'm sure there have been other occassions as well.

The Roots is music for the "intelligent and innovative".

You can look at The Roots as being professors. Students are turned into billionaires at Harvard with the help of the professors, but those professors themselves may never achieve such wealth. Hope ya'll get what I'm trying to say.

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