Line up an vote people... I wanna see how big of an underdog Thought really is. If even the okayplayers take Nas over Thought, this could be a MONUMENTAL DEFEAT FOR NAS.

Cause I know thought WILL get in his ass... Why?!!!??!

1) Thought is a Battle MC at heart... Nas is a Narrator, and in the case of battling... he's a big crybaby whining about shit and throwing empty darts at the opposition.

2) What the hell is Nas gonna say to Black THought?!!!??! Did Black Thought even deal with Jay-Z?!!!??! Was thought on those Volkswagen comercials (not that it would be all that bad). I dont see where Thought has been hypocritical at all. We know all the angles Thought has on Nas, I dont even have to go into it.

3) Nas aint sharp as he used to be. For all the good shit on 'Stillmatic' it still wasnt as clean as 'Illmatic' or even 'It Was Written'. On 'I Am' his flow was borderline garbage except for the obvious stand out tracks. Whether you like Thought or not... you gotta admit one thing, the man is consistant. Now there's somethin to set him off. Inspiration is a mutha...

Do you want more?!!!??! I could go on, shit!



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"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

"2) What the hell is Nas gonna say to Black THought?!!!??! Did Black Thought even deal with Jay-Z?!!!??! Was thought on those Volkswagen comercials (not that it would be all that bad). I dont see where Thought has been hypocritical at all. We know all the angles Thought has on Nas, I dont even have to go into it."

that's what I am trying to discuss in post "Though seperate from Roots" check it out if ya can.


My vote is for Thought, for the exact same reasons you listed.

"Time is just memory mixed with desire" - Tom Waits

"Silence is the loudest parting word..you never say" -Ben Harper

I think that's the advantage Thought has over Nas.I don't think he delt with Jay.I love both,both are inmy top 5 mc's of all time and like somebody said,this could really set Thought off.I wasn't feeling the last couple of tracks he was on but inspiration is a mutha.Unlike Nas vs Jay-z.I doubt that there's a history between The Roots and Nas so What would they talk about.This would be a straight up raw battle.I can't wait!

Non-believers get my dick and genitals backwards-Redman

One1

Nas...

1. If Thought is such a great battle mc, please give me examples on why he's a better one than Nas.

2. This is the only area in which Thought has an advantage.

3. Thought is consistent, but so what? M.O.P. is also consistent, but are they better than Tribe, De La Soul, or Wu-Tang? Hell no.

*shrugs*

>Nas...
>
>1. If Thought is such a
>great battle mc, please give
>me examples on why he's
>a better one than Nas.

Exhibit A: Distortion 2 Static (Freestyle Mix)

Kid I'm every MC, it's all in me
For all eternity I represent in southern Philly
Indeed as I thought I proceed and make MC's bleed
Fake MC's need to take heed
The essence of my presence is a seed
Kid I got styles you wouldn't believe
?Impress my rap league?
The Roots poetic and you're pathetic
I'm laughing at MC's paragraph, illiterates can't read
Or can't seem to conceive, or construct a product
That don't suck, but record companies do not give a FUCK
That's why forever after you will hear the laughter
As I flip the rap chapter you'll be on your back after
It's the master microphone magician
Do work that make the people listen
Thoughts in mind glisten as your rhyme's missing
Hold tight, let's do this right
Cause I can see we got a lot of MC's that need insight tonight


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oh well

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There is no way, no chance, no how, no nothing that indicates that Nas has a chance. What, will he call BT gay?

For the love of GOD, BT stay out of it, please don't destroy one of my fave emcees.

Think about, BT will wipe Nas off the face of the hip hop world. Nas will never show again afterwards if this battle were to take place.

I say ?uest battle Nas w/ a drum solo and leave it at that.

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hahaha
u think black thought wreckin nas would ruin nas' career?
half the people who buy Nas' music dont even know wtf the roots are.
haha, it wouldnt do shit to his career, he might loose YOUR respect, but he'll be cryin all the way to the bank...

peace
Shiloh

>hahaha
>u think black thought wreckin nas
>would ruin nas' career?
>half the people who buy Nas'
>music dont even know wtf
>the roots are.

the roots sold 700,000 plus with their last record. If you think "half" of the people who bought nas' last *double platinum* album (um, that's barely over twice what TFA sold) don't know who The Roots are, you're kidding yourself.

>haha, it wouldnt do shit to
>his career, he might loose
>YOUR respect, but he'll be
>cryin all the way to
>the bank...

Yeah, but that's not because The Roots are "unknown", that's because as long as Nas keeps making decent records, he'll be straight. It's a lot harder to "destroy a career" now than it was in, say, the mid-80's when KRS ended it all for a then-popular MC Shan.

side note: If Mobb Deep's next record isn't a monster, they may be "outta here" (c) KRS (you can't follow being dissed with a weak album...lol)

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Ya'll are seriously out of touch with reality....

I say Thought should "eat his children" (c)-mike tyson

Thought vs. Nas is a good contest, but they are both so good. I think thought is more consistent and fluid than nas though. We'll lets sit back and see what happens

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umm, black thought could spit concious, but Nas could prolly be more vicious...
why even bother comparing anyway? they r two totally different kind of rappers
who cares what nas said bout the roots? what, the man aint allowed to have an opinion?
DAM

peace
Shiloh

Ya'll have got to be kidding me. Bt defeat Nas. Personally, that is not something I want to see. I do think their style is somewhat similar. The way the recite their words. I did not say how they flip them. I love them both as emcees. I think it would be a better battle than jay-z vs Nas. Thought would get into him but I think Nas will win in the end. I don't care about fan approval. I am speaking candidly about lyrics, flow, word play and beats. The beat can make or break a great dis song. Nas has never been wack lyrically. His beats are the problem. This leads me to one more thing. Everyone is bashing Nas. You forgot that music changed. Nas was on the top and then the south took over. Jay-Z, being very smart, was able to incorporate a northern and southern sound making it something completely different. New Yorkers and the rest of the east coast was bouncing. I must admit it. I bounced a little too. I can do that and get away with it. HA HA Ha! I am from the south. Nas was stuck with his old sound. Oh, sorry about that, back to the real discussion. Did nas say something about the roots? I want to know.

In due time an new light will shine!

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You see, there is a major part of me that wants to say Thought... when it comes to freestyles, just a real fluid spit, and bending words to make it fit... no one makes it hotter than Thought...

However, when it comes to concepts, well written verses to the point of poetry, yet still gritty enough to make a prisoner's head bounce in approval... Nas. Damn I don't know!??!?!?!

"I'm like Aquaman and Brownhornet, Imhotep but don't flaunt it" - the mighty Black Thought

"We.. (puff, puff) gotta make some changes ya dig? (puff, puff) I mean... dayum... brothers gotta work it out (puff, puff)... What's this a Dutch? Damn you aint

Easily. Nuff said. I like the roots but dem niggas need to stick to cryin bout light bills an shit. cuz they don't wanna see that nigga

you sound like a nas dick rider
go to his site and suck his dick faggot!

cant believe cats would put black thought on the same pedastal as nas... what the fukk are yall smokin... black thought is a nice MC IN A GROUP who DOES NOT ROCK SONGS BY HIMSELF ALL THE TIME.... u know why there aint been no thought solo??? its cause the label knows he cant hold it down for dolo and if you actually think so ur buggin... fukk is wrong with you cats??? name one song thought has done where he has come as nice as nas has on memory lane, your the man, shootout, take it in blood etc... when black thought can hold down an entire album 4 times and have an 3 potential classic albums under his belt, then we can talk... when black thoughts best song can match nas' then we can talk... far as im concerned son hasnt even shown he can be as good as mos def and kweli yet....


and nas was right for dissin them cats... they aint above criticism even though they wanna be the "holier than thou" rappers... they did what every other rapper would do, they saw a nice paycheck, a good way to capture some of jay z' fanbase, and a way to promote themselves.... and no one would knock them if they didnt perpetuate this aura of "hip hop purity" they wanna claim for themselves... that what u do video was a direct slap at jay z' whole stee, but they go and do a video and album with him???

as for material nas could use to diss thought, how about this

1) still no solo, no one checking for it either(no one has mentioned this on any board ive been on in over half a year)
2) no movie, and the movie he involved in has him banging a white chick
3) how he broke(true or not, thought aint paid like nas is)

>cant believe cats would put black
>thought on the same pedastal
>as nas... what the fukk
>are yall smokin... black thought
>is a nice MC IN
>A GROUP who DOES NOT
>ROCK SONGS BY HIMSELF ALL
>THE TIME.... u know why
>there aint been no thought
>solo??? its cause the label
>knows he cant hold it
>down for dolo and if
>you actually think so ur
>buggin... fukk is wrong with
>you cats??? name one song
>thought has done where he
>has come as nice as
>nas has on memory lane,
>your the man, shootout, take
>it in blood etc...

Name a Nas song better than "The 'Notic" and lets go at it.



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bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

>Name a Nas song better than
>"The 'Notic" and lets go
>at it.

Get the fuck outta here!!!

https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

>Name a Nas song better than
>"The 'Notic" and lets go
>at it.
>

all of illmatic
shootouts
take it in blood
project windows
street dreamer remix(thought has never come close to this level of lyricism)
your the man
poison
undying love
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

come on man, you just cannot be serious.... and if you really want to we can break out the lines.... again when thought's best can match nas' talk to me... ive never heard thought even approach nas' lyricism on his first two albums....

>
>>Name a Nas song better than
>>"The 'Notic" and lets go
>>at it.
>>
>
>all of illmatic
>shootouts
>take it in blood
>project windows
>street dreamer remix(thought has never come
>close to this level of
>lyricism)
>your the man
>poison
>undying love
>etc etc etc etc etc etc
>etc etc etc
>
>come on man, you just cannot
>be serious.... and if you
>really want to we can
>break out the lines.... again
>when thought's best can match
>nas' talk to me... ive
>never heard thought even approach
>nas' lyricism on his first
>two albums....

Before you post... get nas's NUTS out ya mouth...

lines??!?!? here you go...

Now was she real?
Or an illusion of this optical confusion with...
the accent.. of ancient Egypt?
Or could it be that she's the one I was supposed to be with
and together walked this twisted...
staircase to somethin realistic.
Damn, her lips...
having me addicted to her presence.
Front page material on Essence, a queen...
imperial before her adolescence.
And as she grew into a woman, she became refined.
I never knew another like her in my lifetime.
So now I travel through a tunnel of space,
without a place, on the face of this earth...
with this pain gettin worse, drivin me insane,
or at least I'm touchin the brink...
of sanity to think of how I can link, or contact her.


Lets break it down... And give me a break... nothin on Illmatic is as good as that... maybe the standout tracks from his later albums. Could we be a lil objective here...


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"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

Do you even listen to hip hop???
Nas is one of the most prolific MC's of all time...
I could come with all kinds of lyrics..

https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

>Do you even listen to hip
>hop???
>Nas is one of the most
>prolific MC's of all time...

is he really?!??!
Did you say "Prolific"
Why?!??! I'm not sayin Nas hasnt put out incredible material and that he isnt a grade A MC but if you wanna talk prolific... KRS, Tupac, Chuck D, Rakim, and even Guru are the PROLIFIC MCS.... Nas's "teachings" sounded forced on every album but Illmatic. Nas is a good narrator... he's good at taking a subject and detailing it, but what stance has Nas ever takin that wasnt obvious. Prolific??!??! Nas aint about change... Nas is about sounding like his about change.



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"Kneel down, I'll make a nigga like you call me Big Earnest" --- Kool Keith

"I wasnt proud of it but I was a child... FUCK IT" --- Jay-Z

"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

Add Ice Cube, Jeru, Queen Latifah, and even Will Smith ALL BEFORE NAS... they all went against the grain.

Nas is still on Rakim's heels but he aint really makin a statement. He's making songs to make songs.

How dare you call Black Thought a hypocrite when you look at the MIX of messages on a Nas album. Give me a fuckin break... Nas is too PLASTIC to be prolific, you can see right thru him. And he doesnt put enough emotion into his so called "prolific" tracks to even pull them off.

Black Thought is a monotone MC too by the way. So this could be an interesting matchup. Its like the battle of the Rakims...


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"Kneel down, I'll make a nigga like you call me Big Earnest" --- Kool Keith

"I wasnt proud of it but I was a child... FUCK IT" --- Jay-Z

"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN! WILL SMITH?!?!?!?! C'mon now ya'll.

>PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN! WILL
>SMITH?!?!?!?! C'mon now ya'll.

Will is wack, i'll give you that, but he is making a clear statement and standing for somethin in his music, and image.


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"Kneel down, I'll make a nigga like you call me Big Earnest" --- Kool Keith

"I wasnt proud of it but I was a child... FUCK IT" --- Jay-Z

"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

nas is in a paper chase just like every other MC who make's records. He makes songs to sell records just like Rakim, Will Smith, Latifah, Cube, Shawn Carter, Marshall Mathers, etc. Lyrical prowes helps you hold your head up among heads on the block. But when you buy that Bentley, the house, the clothes, the bitches, and all the other izms...they're all puffy, it's a dollar's and cents thing. Dopeness don't matter...

>nas is in a paper chase
>just like every other MC
>who make's records. He makes
>songs to sell records just
>like Rakim, Will Smith, Latifah,
>Cube, Shawn Carter, Marshall Mathers,
>etc. Lyrical prowes helps you
>hold your head up among
>heads on the block. But
>when you buy that Bentley,
>the house, the clothes, the
>bitches, and all the other
>izms...they're all puffy, it's a
>dollar's and cents thing. Dopeness
>don't matter...

What was your point and what are you responding to??!?!


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"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

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Dont get me wrong... I think Guru should hang it up...
(http://www.okayplayer.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=22009&forum=lesson&archive=yes)

But the man has paid his dues... And never changed his stance... even Mobb Deep swtiched up... still cant belive that one.


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"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

Guru????????? chill. he rhymes like an eighth grader. He's doing his thing, and Gang Starr is legendary, but 85% is because of Primo. Can I be one to say that Thought and Nas are equally dope?!?!?!?!? They can BOTH do it ALL. People want to diss Nas for being in movies, but everyone here probably has the flick Tariq did on DVD. There isn't any "Great" MC in hip-hop that hasn't done some really hypocritical shit! KRS,Tupac,Jay-Z,Nas,Black Thought,Pharoahe etc. Biggie might be the only one(ba-by). Nas and theRoots have made serious impacts on hip-hop history, so why all the fuss. I will admit that I don't even know what Nas said about the Roots. Maybe that would change the way I see things, but still...there's no such thing as bad publicity( except kiddie porn scandals maybe). As long as no one dies, cats can beef if they want to. Eventually, these 2 will show that they are 2 of the most mature MC's in hip-hop, I think. Anyone feel me??

ok that's just pathetic.... i'll do you one better, name me one song on illmatic that doesn't have a verse better then that... u really can't be serious with this.....


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if my memory isn't bugging, i seem to recall quest say that thought wrote "the hypnotic" in 20 minutes...

(my memory is bugging on whether "the hypnotic" and "the 'notic" have different lyrics...)

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>if my memory isn't bugging, i
>seem to recall quest say
>that thought wrote "the hypnotic"
>in 20 minutes...

and???

>(my memory is bugging on whether
>"the hypnotic" and "the 'notic"
>have different lyrics...)

different lyrics... 'The Notic' is one of my fav hiphop tracks of all time. Flawless.

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bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

Notic had a nice beat, but the imagery in "I gave you power" makes that one a jewel. Peace.

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>1) still no solo, no one
>checking for it either(no one
>has mentioned this on any
>board ive been on in
>over half a year)
>2) no movie, and the movie
>he involved in has him
>banging a white chick
>3) how he broke(true or not,
>thought aint paid like nas
>is)


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>1) still no solo, no one
>checking for it either(no one
>has mentioned this on any
>board ive been on in
>over half a year)

He dissed the Roots, no Thought. So why would that be an issue

>2) no movie, and the movie
>he involved in has him
>banging a white chick

Not only is that a stupid comparison mark for an MC, but see above

>3) how he broke(true or not,
>thought aint paid like nas
>is)

artist royalties being what they are, and considering how much the Roots tour. I doubt that their bank accounts are as different as some would have you think


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>
>>1) still no solo, no one
>>checking for it either(no one
>>has mentioned this on any
>>board ive been on in
>>over half a year)
>
>He dissed the Roots, no Thought.
>So why would that be
>an issue

thought is the roots, he they frontman.....
>
>>2) no movie, and the movie
>>he involved in has him
>>banging a white chick
>
>Not only is that a stupid
>comparison mark for an MC,
>but see above

all's fair in love and war fam... if jay z can dig up baby pics of P to make him look stupid, this is easily in fair territory.... secondly, for all the "black" in black thought, it does seem a little hypocritical


>
>>3) how he broke(true or not,
>>thought aint paid like nas
>>is)
>
>artist royalties being what they are,
>and considering how much the
>Roots tour. I doubt that
>their bank accounts are as
>different as some would have
>you think

just my point, these cats need to tour year in year out to make money.... thats like making 200 g's a year but working 100 hour workweeks, meanwhile the guy down the block makes 150 a year and works a 9-5.... who's richer???....

>just my point, these cats need
>to tour year in year
>out to make money.... thats
>like making 200 g's a
>year but working 100 hour
>workweeks, meanwhile the guy down
>the block makes 150 a
>year and works a 9-5....
>who's richer???....

just to take that literally, the guy with 200,000 is still richer than the guy with 150,000...one just has a higher hourly wage...LOL...work that math, dunny.

dig it, depending how much of his publishing Nas is catching, he's getting nice checks off radio play alone...but Thought is touring a helluva lot more and probably spending a helluva lot less (because Nas is trying to look like he has as much money as Jay Z and probably only seeing 1/10th of what Jay sees, off publishing alone, Jay being the King of Radio Play...LOL...Nas' QB necklace alone probably costs whatever he made off his second album...ha).

this is silly though. the point was whether Thought was "broke". You would have to be something of an idiot to think Thought is "broke" considering how much The Roots tour. Broke, as in he sleeps on his mom's couch and borrows money to catch the bus? Dream on....

Thoughtfully yours,

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>artist royalties being what they are,
>and considering how much the
>Roots tour. I doubt that
>their bank accounts are as
>different as some would have
>you think


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great points...

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Rappers I monkey flip em with the funky rhythm I be kickin
Musician, inflictin composition
of pain I'm like Scarface sniffin cocaine
Holdin a M-16, see with the pen I'm extreme, now
Bulletholes left in my peepholes
I'm suited up in street clothes
Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes
Y'all know my steelo with or without the airplay
I keep some E&J, sittin bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner bettin Grants with the celo champs
Laughin at baseheads, tryin to sell some broken amps
G-Packs get off quick, forever niggaz talk shit
Remeniscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
Niggaz be runnin through the block shootin
Time to start the revolution, catch a body head for Houston
Once they caught us off guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit
Lead was hittin niggaz one ran, I made him backflip
Heard a few chicks scream my arm shook, couldn't look
Gave another squeeze heard it click yo, my shit is stuck
Try to cock it, it wouldn't shoot now I'm in danger
Finally pulled it back and saw three bullets caught up in the chamber
So now I'm jetting to the building lobby
and it was filled with children probably couldn't see as high as I be
(So whatchu sayin?) It's like the game ain't the same
Got younger niggaz pullin the triggers bringing fame to they name
and claim some corners, crews without guns are goners
In broad daylight, stickup kids, they run up on us
Fo'-fives and gauges, Macs in fact
Same niggaz'll catch a back to back, snatchin yo' cracks in black
There was a snitch on the block gettin niggaz knocked
So hold your stash until the coke price drop
I know this crackhead, who said she gotta smoke nice rock
And if it's good she'll bring ya customers in measuring pots, but yo
You gotta slide on a vacation
Inside information keeps large niggaz erasin and they wives basin
It drops deep as it does in my breath
I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
I think of crime when I'm in a New York state of mind

cmon, even ?uest said himself Nas is God in rap music...

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Black Thought is still Black Thought...

What is Nas now?!??! Nasty Ass?!?!


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bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

Thats not the best verse to post anyway... i see you posted it twice on this board. This a verse that sounds brilliant but reads like a bunch of gibberish. The exquisite detail is there but nas is jumping thru different boats of thought all under one theme. No statement is made. Again... this song is more of a production/flow masterpeice... throw in hot vocabulary and descriptive allusions, then rap it up nicely at the end... and you have a song people will hold in high regard. But this song is NOT better than 'The Notic'. Give me a break.

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"I wasnt proud of it but I was a child... FUCK IT" --- Jay-Z

"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

"and nas was right for dissin them cats... they aint above criticism even though they wanna be the "holier than thou" rappers... they did what every other rapper would do, they saw a nice paycheck, a good way to capture some of jay z' fanbase, and a way to promote themselves.... and no one would knock them if they didnt perpetuate this aura of "hip hop purity" they wanna claim for themselves... that what u do video was a direct slap at jay z' whole stee, but they go and do a video and album with him??? "

agian, I couldn't have said it better myself. Holla at me when BT can drop something even remotely close to 2nd childhood, What Goes Around, or anything else from Stillmatic

>1) still no solo, no one
>checking for it either(no one
>has mentioned this on any
>board ive been on in
>over half a year)

got shelved for smapling reasons, been there done that, we (hip-hop heads) have moved on, and are looking for Phrenology. besides, the roots are like staples for hip-hop heads. you knw its gonna be good when it comes out, and you knwo your gonna cop it. with nas...its a crap shot. he got lucky thi time, but next time.....

>2) no movie, and the movie
>he involved in has him
>banging a white chick

WOW....nas was in amovie where AFTER he "did the knowledge"...smoked a blunt with a nine year old, and told his girl they were goin to Africa....WTF THERE ARE OVER 42 FUCKING COUNTRIES IN AFRICA...FUCKING PICK ONE YOU PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL, IGNORANT-CHIP-TOOTHED FUCKA sorry that was always a soft spot for me.

>3) how he broke(true or not,
>thought aint paid like nas
>is)

who said nas was paid? in his videos nas is paid, but see how much is in his account. after e recoups from the cost of his album, and the fact that he dont tour like that...whatever

on another note. beyond the streets, critics wuld have a feidl day with this one. the roots stay a critical favorite, while nas has just gotten back on (some) of their good sides. they could easily paint the roots as the underdog goodguys, as was done for nas during the jay beef. dont underestimate the power of the media. they made people actually beleive that a song full of homophobic refrences an school yard cat calling was a good diss track....


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1) still no solo, no one checking for it either(no one has mentioned this on any board ive been on in over half a year)

first of all, there are plenty of people checking for thought's solo, i know i am.

2) no movie, and the movie he involved in has him banging a white chick

i don't think i even need to explain why that statement is stupid.

3) how he broke(true or not, thought aint paid like nas is)

yo, neither or them is paid like Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys, does that make them better artists?


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First of all, The Jay shit was never for the money I don't know who told you that shit! If you really want to know here it is first hand, We did the shit because we are versatile and can rock with anyone underground to mainstream in any genre of music!
And as far as fanbase we have our own CORE audience which some of our fans happen to like Jay and vice versa. Please believe dawg we are not near broke and who gives a fuck if nas got more doe I'm sure we got more doe than you and I mean individually too! Homie you sound like a fool, you think nas has 3 possible classics?? I'd say 1 maybe you got him confused with the grammy award winning Roots crew who has 3, besides how many records have you ever recorded, whats your name Hiphop, ohh you're the 76ers mascot now I understand. Do you even own a home or business or car or do you take public transportation to your little work for the white man ass job! Basically, like nas you a clown just lookin for some shit to talk about to help sell your slow moving record,, ohh you don't have a record well shut the fuck up or,
line it up with the rest of yall shit talkers and yall all can get knocked the fuck out 1by1!

was classic. at least to me. i love it

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Black Thought enuff said!! To me he kills Nas with one thing being "CONSISTENT" thats all there is too it!


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Sorry as much as I love the Roots, but just cause NAS has an iller delivery, more venomous, and better voice.. he captures the song more..

BT can be well kinda boring.. (No knock on his skills though)

I don't think the Roots should go out and straight up make a diss track. If Nas forces the issue then yeah blaze him..(it's something u will have to do)

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He just makes more sense to me. I think that Nas' last album was good, I was feeling "One Mic." However, I have been feeling about 99% of all of Thoughts work.

One

I can't believe you guys are disputing a battle or the lyrical content between these two MCs. Black Thought is one of the (probably THE) most under rated MCs. Black Thought would EASILY hold his own down. Here's a BRIEF reason why Black Thought has is a better lyricist and battle MC:

I'm on some old snap a rapper neck shit
You know what I'm sayin?
So niggaz best get out of my path
Kid, I'm on point like a gat
The basket case, I waste MCs with rapture taste
Facing these leads to cats diminished
They be pullin the mic out that ass when I get finished
Administrative assistant I'm not, yo, I'm the principal
Nigga, takin shots, like I'm invincible
Figure me to be hardcore, my input cuts your jaw
For real, for short, do you want more?!!!???
-"Do you want more???!!"

Southeast to Pennsylvania, Transporation Authority
is what I'm probably on, if I ain't whippin a Land
throughout ya sec-tion, my mind's in traum'
Nine times out of time I rhymes upon the L Train
Within my brain, foun-tains over rugged moun-tains
of my terrain, diggit I came too far to front
So I'm meditatin on how to maintain
Stepped off at City Hall into the rain;
-"push up your lighter"

Black rain fallin from the sky look strange
The ghetto is red hot, we steppin on flames
Yo, it's inflation on the price for fame
and it was all the same, but then the antidote came
The Black Thought, ill syllablist, out the Fifth
This heavyweight rap shit I'm about to lift
LIKE, a phyllum lift up it's seed to sunlight
I plug in the mic, draw like a gunfight
I never use a cordless, or stand applaudless
Sippin cholorophyll out of ill silver goblets
I'm like a faucet, monopoly's the object
There ain't no way to cut this tap, you got ta get wet
Your head is throbbin and I ain't said shit yet
-"the next movement"

I woke up and it was pouring down rain
I put my head on, it really wasn't no thing
One of them days I was feeling immune to the pain
Threw on, Alice Coltrane, smoked and sang
And wrote this flame compused to the rhythm of the droplets
And went whispering simliar to gossip
The kick slapping at the window glass
Slow down the globe so it don't spin too fast
Because, I been running like a river since
The age of my early innocence
It just made me ambitious
My grams used to tell me "Man listen,
If you can't burn, don't step into the kitchen"
You muscle your turn, the laws of the land viscious
We gotta stick to the plan, which is
Pursuing true riches, whether we trade stock or wash dishes
Throughout setbacks and few glitches
The Big Picture's the focus, fuckin being hopeless
Or helpless, we not selfish so we wrote this
Give it to ya, make you feel good
-"Glitches"

Yo you should see some of these cats that vocalize
They get props from they local guys and try to raise
Speaching through the mic like "Yo I apologize"
They blind and wasn't as wise and fail to realize the com-
Plectual sexual side of the rhyme
When I make love to the mic the crowd respond
"the good, the bad, and the desolate"

Step into the spot the venue is empty
5 minutes later the crowd is in a frenzy
Packed up to the maximum occupancy
Give me the mic I got a Jones like Quincy
Break down the barriers don't try to fence me
Let the ladies in the front get pressed against me
Peepin, brothers on stage ten deep-an'
24 out the 18 straight leapin
Duck season, Thought bust the heat seakin
Mission make y'all feel this and keep leakin
Bang this in the hoods
Like stolen goods, keep reachin
New soundwave street sweepin
"Ya'll know who"

and I can go on and on and on...and this is just lyrical content persay. Delivery plays a KEY role in MCing and I have been to A LOT OF SHOWS (which include both artists) and I know NO ONE can dispute that Black Thought can rock the crowd like no other. And the comment about Nas's fans not even caring about Black Thought implements that he is not as well known as NAS, which NEEDS SOME CORRECTION because BLACK THOUGHT (and subsequently THE ROOTS) are BETTER KNOWN than Nas. The validity? a Grammy, more album sales WORLDWIDE, and one of the MOST BUSIEST HIPHOP WEBSITES...Nas is nice, he is amongst my favourite MCs no doubt and he established this by dropping illmatic, not any other album that preceeded it. Black thought is amongst one of my favourite MCs b/c he did not only drop "Do you want more??" but "Illadelph Halflife," "things fall apart" and a school of bsides and singles that has definatly got him the deserved attention from people like me. I know that all these accomplishments are generally viewed as "The Roots" accomplishments, but because Black Thought is the front man and we are talking about LYRICS...then you guys have to give him his props...have to

this was a lengthy black thought vote from djcomplex

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one Black Thought rhyme that is of any significance in Hip-Hop lore.

Distortion to sTatic maybe, and that's it.

>one Black Thought rhyme that is
>of any significance in Hip-Hop
>lore.
>
>Distortion to sTatic maybe, and that's
>it.

You're going to sit here and displace a man's skill based on whether the PUBLIC embraced him or not?!??! Get to the bottom line... he'll take Nas the fuck out.

And to answer your question... "What They Do" was very significant... it was voted by many in the industry to be the best video/statement that year and of that era.


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"I wasnt proud of it but I was a child... FUCK IT" --- Jay-Z

"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

2) What the hell is Nas gonna say to Black THought?!!!??! Did Black Thought even deal with Jay-Z?!!!??! Was thought on those Volkswagen comercials (not that it would be all that bad). I dont see where Thought has been hypocritical at all. We know all the angles Thought has on Nas, I dont even have to go into it.

"Used To Love Her" was still fresh off the press and not classic yet. Then Cube basically had to go on hiatus for a couple years he got ate so bad.




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"I wasnt proud of it but I was a child... FUCK IT" --- Jay-Z

"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

Then
>Cube basically had to go
>on hiatus for a couple
>years he got ate so
>bad.

The dis was nice, but it was mostly fodder for Internet groups and Hip-Hop anthropologists. It had ZERO effect on Cube's career.

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"Kneel down, I'll make a nigga like you call me Big Earnest" --- Kool Keith

"I wasnt proud of it but I was a child... FUCK IT" --- Jay-Z

"Muthafucka, I pull your face off...
bout to show you what the fuck you look like" --- Kool Keith

oh well

>Then
>>Cube basically had to go
>>on hiatus for a couple
>>years he got ate so
>>bad.
>
>The dis was nice, but it
>was mostly fodder for Internet
>groups and Hip-Hop anthropologists. It
>had ZERO effect on Cube's
>career.

plenty of industry motherfuckers heard that song and heard dude get tore up.

it didn't hurt his career, but it did have SOME effect the same way any time somebody puts a hole in your ass on the mic has some effect...that would be like Planet Asia tearing a hole in Method Man and he doesn't respond, but that shit gets on hella mix tapes...it hurts your rep....it didn't kill Cube in the game or even hurt him real bad, but it did effect his rep...

to say it had "zero effect" is ridiculous, man...motherfuckers heard that shit in the industry and took note that this chi-town cat put a hole in homeboy...

but cube is the most dissed rapper in history anyway. cypress hill, common, kam, NWA, snoop (same song where he dissed luke)...hella people have dissed cube on wax...

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doesn't really understand Black Thought's skillz

really

BT will eat his lunch

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you're severely underestimating Nas's skills as well.

At least acknowledge that it would be a legitimate battle.

No way it would be one-sided in BT's favor.