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NICEflutinBOY
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"is bob power a genius?"


          

Ive seen the mans name ever since i was 12 listenin to tribe ... now hes workin on phrenology... whats the deal with bob? I can see by the update that he is optimizing some of the sounds for phrenology but i need more than that. what does the man do so well that makes people come back for more?

  

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thats the idea.....
Apr 20th 2002
1
He just has the bomb weed. That's all, really. n/m
Apr 20th 2002
2
what does he do? i'll tell you
Apr 20th 2002
3
what about illadelph?
Apr 21st 2002
4
yeah
Apr 22nd 2002
20
      he forgot ILLADELPH?!?!?
Apr 23rd 2002
33
YO! .....
Apr 21st 2002
5
i aint know peoples still used mini-disc
Apr 21st 2002
6
      for stuff like this......oh yeah
Apr 21st 2002
7
      RE: i aint know peoples still used mini-disc
Apr 21st 2002
8
      RE: i aint know peoples still used mini-disc
Apr 23rd 2002
28
RE: what does he do? i'll tell you
Apr 21st 2002
9
me and russ
Apr 22nd 2002
15
      mad props
Apr 22nd 2002
16
RE: what does he do? i'll tell you
Apr 21st 2002
10
      RE: what does he do? i'll tell you
Apr 21st 2002
12
           hahahaha....
Apr 21st 2002
13
           sheeeeeeeeeeit
Apr 22nd 2002
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                This is a goldmine
Apr 22nd 2002
19
                RE: sheeeeeeeeeeit
Apr 22nd 2002
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                But the #1 advantage to ProTools...
Apr 23rd 2002
27
                Can't front...thanks ?ues
Apr 23rd 2002
30
                RE: sheeeeeeeeeeit
Apr 23rd 2002
31
                Now this is what i'm sayin......
Apr 23rd 2002
34
RE: is bob power a genius?
Apr 21st 2002
11
RE: is bob power a genius?
Apr 21st 2002
14
RE: is bob power a genius?
Apr 22nd 2002
18
please archive this.
Apr 22nd 2002
21
i agree
Apr 22nd 2002
22
searching
Apr 22nd 2002
23
he may just be
Apr 22nd 2002
24
Vibes & Stuff
Apr 22nd 2002
25
      ^
Apr 23rd 2002
29
      funny sample idea
Apr 23rd 2002
32

Seven
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1. "thats the idea....."
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......i think thats the aim...to do such a good job..the listener doesn't even realize mixing has taken place..


  

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2. "He just has the bomb weed. That's all, really. n/m"
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3. "what does he do? i'll tell you"
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>what does the man do
>so well that makes people
>come back for more?


3 feet high and rising
people's instinctive travels and the paths of rhythm
de la soul is dead
the low end theory
buhloone mindstate
midnight maurauders
plantation lullibies
sons of soul
from the ground up
do you want more??!?!?!?
brown sugar
baduism
beats, rhymes, life
peace beyond passion
ozomatli
the equinox
make the music with your mouth 2000
things fall apart
sylenna johnson
bitter
cookies
phrenology


listen to any 5 of those.

then listen to 5 other records not on this list, but with the same feel....

crispy right?

bigger?

better?


bob!


the official bkyle/?uesto "dancing machine"/michael jackson robot dance rating (aka..why i love ebay)

soul train 73-@@@@@
merv griffin 74-@@@@
the carol burnette show-@@1/2
mike douglas 74-@@@1/2
dinah shore 74-@@@@
the sonny and cher comedy hour 74- @@@1/2
cher! 75-@@@@@
american bandstand 75-@@@1/2
the jackson 5ive live in mexico-@@@@1/2
the jackson weekly variety show 75-@@@
the jackson weekly variety show 76-@@@1/2
the rich little show-@@@
the jacksons live in london 1978-@@ (too busy focusing on audience frenzy instead of mike's robot break)
the triumph tour 1981-@@@@
michael jackson 30th celebration 2001-@@

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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4. "what about illadelph?"
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didn't he work on that too?

peace
mike

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peace
mike

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20. "yeah"
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every track except "panic". quest must have been typing fast and forgot to add it.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

If you really loved me, you'd check out http://www.mp3.com/spirit_equality

For some political rap with biblical imagery and Middle Eastern-influenced production, check out my man Born Infinite at http://www.199records.com/artists.htm (he's a nice guy on top of all that...AND THE MISCELLANEOUS FLUX ALBUM IS ON SALE NOW AT http://www.cdbaby.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you believe in avant garde music with soul, peep out Miscellaneous Flux at http://www.miscflux.com

2002: The Underground Strikes Back


Peace,

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dro
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33. "he forgot ILLADELPH?!?!?"
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he forgot his own babies? shame on him!

j/k

peace
mike

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peace
mike

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5. "YO! ....."
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I was thinking of this list of Bob jobs
i'm about to make my Mini disc collection.




Yall share dat- Badu
N E E KeeP Makin music

From this point, I vow to

  

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6. "i aint know peoples still used mini-disc"
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never fizzuked wit em like dat

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sundasill
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7. "for stuff like this......oh yeah"
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Yall share dat- Badu
N E E KeeP Makin music

From this point, I vow to

  

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Seven
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8. "RE: i aint know peoples still used mini-disc"
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oh yes they do......with a computer....a MD player...a MP3 to MD connection....you're set for life


  

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28. "RE: i aint know peoples still used mini-disc"
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MD is the shit, dude!

HUSSA

  

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9. "RE: what does he do? i'll tell you"
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who mixed the lesson pt III? cus that's the shiznizzle right there.

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15. "me and russ"
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the official bkyle/?uesto "dancing machine"/michael jackson robot dance rating (aka..why i love ebay)

soul train 73-@@@@@
merv griffin 74-@@@@
the carol burnette show-@@1/2
mike douglas 74-@@@1/2
dinah shore 74-@@@@
the sonny and cher comedy hour 74- @@@1/2
cher! 75-@@@@@
american bandstand 75-@@@1/2
the jackson 5ive live in mexico-@@@@1/2
the jackson weekly variety show 75-@@@
the jackson weekly variety show 76-@@@1/2
the rich little show-@@@
the jacksons live in london 1978-@@ (too busy focusing on audience frenzy instead of mike's robot break)
the triumph tour 1981-@@@@
michael jackson 30th celebration 2001-@@

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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16. "mad props"
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n/m


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10. "RE: what does he do? i'll tell you"
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Ahhh
Common Now...

Big, Crispy = Bob ?

How 'bout :
SSL 9000j + Protools + Electric Lady Control room +
Kick ass hip hop group = Big, Crispy ?

Not to say that bob isn't a genius, 'cuase he his


  

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12. "RE: what does he do? i'll tell you"
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Let me ask this.
I wanna know the read deal here....

What exactly does the mixing process for the roots include ?
I mean besides burning control rooms with candles
(cough, cough, battery, cough) .

Is it all protoolized ? and if so, do you record to tape first ?

And somthing i've been dying to know,
The drums man... the drums...
are they MPCized ?
I mean - recorded live - cut up - and re programmed to the mpc ?

'Cuase, and with no disrespect...
99% of the drums aren't really live...
I know you can hold it tight... but no one can hold it THAT tight.

  

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13. "hahahaha...."
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ahahahahahahhahahaa......







Yall share dat- Badu
N E E KeeP Makin music

From this point, I vow to

  

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17. "sheeeeeeeeeeit"
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drums.

decide on which section you want to go.

dirty (lesson 3)
blend in (dynamite)
break-o-thon (double trouble)
dry (voodoo album)
primotised (push up your lighter)
triggered (what they do)
organic (?uest vs. rahzel)
radio (thinner high end)
club (bigger thinner high end)
jeepable (bass!)

i use those code words first. cats are different.
the reason why the drums make you doubt if it's me or not is based on the outboard gear. playing the pattern isn't even the challenge. that's easy. you just gotta concentrate hard with no distractions (6 out of 10 i track in the dark). if i want lesson dirty i use vacuum compressing. it's hard to find this stuff so it depends on the studio. tracking on a neve board helps in this department. neve boards were used in the 70's and give you a great vintage sound. there are some programs that you can use to make your shit sound like they were sampled via a sp1200. post phrenology i never saw the true advantage of pro tools. now i do. and not the obvious reason stuff either (cause i aint looped myself since illadelph halflife). russ refuses to mix with protools (so analog)...bob on the other hand has jumped in the pool. and i frankly see how. for starters the time we save on rewinding tape is cut by half. wheras "mellow my man" in 94 took 12 hours to mix (member that rhodes echo on "oh shit"! in verse one? he'd listen, make small adjustment, rewind (2minutes), listen, adjust, rewind (2minutes).....took a half hour for that trick alone. with protools? 10 minutes flat. of course the risk is in the computer freezing up (see "lift ya fist" sessions) but you can get more done in a short amount of time. after drums the bass, keys, guitar are put under the same scrutiny. vocals are last cause you have to prepare the "bed" for the vocalist to get in. once levels are set, then you do "drops". (take bass out for 4, drop snare here). after that...tricks :panning, echos, whatever little trickery you hear. then you readjust levels. you break for an hour or two come back with fresh ears and make last minute adjustments. now we take an extra step. we break for the night and come back next day. make whatever adjustments. and print various mixes (clean, radio, drums up, down, etc)

so that's it in a nutshell.















the official bkyle/?uesto "dancing machine"/michael jackson robot dance rating (aka..why i love ebay)

soul train 73-@@@@@
merv griffin 74-@@@@
the carol burnette show-@@1/2
mike douglas 74-@@@1/2
dinah shore 74-@@@@
the sonny and cher comedy hour 74- @@@1/2
cher! 75-@@@@@
american bandstand 75-@@@1/2
the jackson 5ive live in mexico-@@@@1/2
the jackson weekly variety show 75-@@@
the jackson weekly variety show 76-@@@1/2
the rich little show-@@@
the jacksons live in london 1978-@@ (too busy focusing on audience frenzy instead of mike's robot break)
the triumph tour 1981-@@@@
michael jackson 30th celebration 2001-@@

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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19. "This is a goldmine"
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You are a godsend, ?uestlove. I am printing this out right now and locking it up in a safe. I have to go home and study this for a couple of hours.

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26. "RE: sheeeeeeeeeeit"
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Wow.
Thanks for the reply Quest.
Great info.




meanwhile... does bob need an intern ?
(The nameless dude who leaves the room just when you enter it)

I've worked in nyc (major) studios for the last couple of years,
as an assistent engineer.

is he freelance now ?
I heard he has his own room in sony studios...



  

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27. "But the #1 advantage to ProTools..."
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The ability to go home and edit in your underwear. (As I'm doing right now, actually).

peace

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30. "Can't front...thanks ?ues"
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subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You).
Ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be
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31. "RE: sheeeeeeeeeeit"
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I just sent that shit to everyone I know. I hope I don't end up biting too hard. Thanks for the info though.

  

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34. "Now this is what i'm sayin......"
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....this is y i luv this site.......
Thanx for the info ?uest


  

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11. "RE: is bob power a genius?"
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"bob power you there, 'yeah', adjust the bass and treble make my shit sound clear"

  

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14. "RE: is bob power a genius?"
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I just know all the albums he's been involved with have been real clear and bassy at the same time. Syleena Johnsons shyt
rattles in my ride for real. I was listening to swept away from the roots the other day like damn. To have these songs so bassy without distortion......lovely. Just Lovely

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18. "RE: is bob power a genius?"
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yes he is. i'm following his work since 92.

he made engineering an artform. just peep quest's list. every single one's a classic and mr.power caused major effect on those.....


btw, has bob german roots?

greets


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to mix,
bob power,
with the snares n kicks....

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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that's manifested in elements
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21. "please archive this."
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Sat 12-2am WBAI 99.5FM in NY
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22. "i agree"
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I got more than what i bargained for. I wish i was in the music business so i could be involved with all that shit. Im a musician trapped in a designers body...

  

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23. "searching"
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searching around i found Tim Lathans and Russ elevados name on a rack of credits too... whos better? (even though they worked together on a bunch of projects)

(im sure these lists arent EVERYTHING but its some)

Bob's
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=478145074/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/discography.html/artistid=POWER*BOB/select=othercredits

Tim's
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=478145074/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/discography.html/artistid=LATHAM*TIM/select=othercredits

Russ's
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=478145074/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/discography.html/artistid=ELEVADO*RUSS/select=othercredits

  

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24. "he may just be"
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bob, you'll get your dough

what song's this line in? i cant place it

i know its tribe

  

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25. "Vibes & Stuff"
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I'd like to take this time to say what's up to Kool G
The name is Q-Tip, The Midnight Marauder
Give enough respect to Afrika Bambaataa
As a man in the world, I must do my job
Take care of Mama Duke, I won't resort to rob
Bob you'll get your dough, Mase is my witness
Obsessed with the rap, for its the mental fitness
Like shootin cee-lo, and always gettin headcracks
The industry is luck, winning with the fake raps

  

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HA!

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>Like shootin cee-lo, and always gettin
>headcracks
>The industry is luck, winning with
>the fake raps

I'm sure Goodie MoB could sample the above lines for a funny concept song.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

If you really loved me, you'd check out http://www.mp3.com/spirit_equality

For some political rap with biblical imagery and Middle Eastern-influenced production, check out my man Born Infinite at http://www.199records.com/artists.htm (he's a nice guy on top of all that...AND THE MISCELLANEOUS FLUX ALBUM IS ON SALE NOW AT http://www.cdbaby.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you believe in avant garde music with soul, peep out Miscellaneous Flux at http://www.miscflux.com

2002: The Underground Strikes Back


Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
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