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"i had to put my editor on blast (KATRINA POLITICAL ACTION POST)"
Thu Sep-01-05 11:56 PM by poetx

  

          

(Katrina Political Action Post. we are gonna use this to discuss what we can do to channel our outrage and concern about this shit).

and my first 'act' is to write about it in the paper where i have a column. we need to educate and mobilize and sensitize people around this country to put our elected officials on notice that this shit is NOT ok and that someone has to pay for this gross incompetency. but i had issues even being able to do that.

1st e-mail to my editor:

On 9/1/05 2:56 PM, "me" <me@my day job.com> wrote:

hi ________?

when is the next column opening? i was gonna ask that anyway, but i'm
really, really, really itching to write about the aftermath of
Katrina. if there's space, i could even have something to you by
tomorrow morning (give me a word count and i'm there).

it seems most of the folks who were hit hardest could not afford to
go. that's a tragedy AND travesty. (also, money to fix their levees
was cut due to iraq war and war on terra, AND 35% of their nat'l
guard is in iraq). president cut his vacation two days short, though.
gotta love it.

washington post has started to write about this. ny times has called
the pres on his tepid response, and hugo chavez has ante'd up $1M and
called our vacationing leadership to task.

i would REALLY, however like to delve upon what this says about our
society. and (from various blog and msg board postings) a column or
shorter commentary is just a cut & paste away considering what i've
already written on it.


thanks,

d.

--------------------------------------------

he wrote back:

09/01/2005 05:34 PM
Subject - Re: Next Column Openings/Katrina coverage?

hey there. Thanks, but I may not have a spot for a few weeks, I'm afraid.
And I agree completely with your take on this, and we may need to run it if
the political issues aren't being addressed by the mainstream media (and
believe me, being from new orleans and having edited our big fema story
last year, I know you're right). Otherwise, when we write about the
hurricane or any big issue, I want it to be local, special or very
different than what anyone else is doing. Let's see how it goes and email
again next week.

Thanks,


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after i had a chance to actually read more and watch more coverage, i was incensed, and fired this back.

From: me @ my day job
Sent: Thu 9/1/2005 8:30 PM
To: my editor.

Subject: there is NOTHING more significant than this right now in my estimation.


nothing.

these people are dying because they are poor and because they are black.

this is bullshit. the director of fema talking about he just heard today
that the people in the shelters had no food or water.

there is NO way that they can not do something for these people. and all
the headlines are about looting and fucking gas prices.

the director of FEMA is on cnn blaming the people for staying when 27% of a
485,000 population is under the federal poverty level, and the median
income is 27,000, so up to 200,000 are in the same boat. and they are
talking about people who CHOSE to stay behind. it is absolutely infuriating
and disgusting.

the richest nation in the world. and they herded those people into the
terror dome with NO thought about what to do with them, and no sense of
urgency after the fact.

you have the national guard turning back and not evacuating thousands of
people because of small arms fire? when their brethren are in iraq getting
blown up by bombs? THATs an excuse not to go get people?

i have NEVER been this pissed about anything that has happened in this
country. never. every single person who died yesterday, who dies today, and
who dies tomorrow has died needlessly, and this government needs to be
accountable.

THAT story is not being broadcast and reported, other than sporadically,
and never with any analysis that explains WHY.

tv talking heads (aside from occassionally on cnn) are still couching this
whole things in terms of people who CHOSE to stay behind. the general
populace takes its clues from whatever the headlines of the corporate news
provide them. they are not getting that this is a monstrous and
unconscionable abrogation of responsibility by the government towards its
citizens.

people are jumping off the overpasses to their death out of despair because
they are baking in 97 degree heat with no food or water and there is no
communication and no indication of when if ever anyone will come for them.

and news agencies choose to televise looped coverage ofpeople stealing
sneakers and tvs, and the rest of the country (including the triangle) sits
in judgement, as if these insane actions by a few warrant these people
being treated like animals, worse than prisoners. in prison at least they
get meals and showers and food and water.

of EVERYTHING that is on my mind to write about nothing even comes close to
matching the intensity of feeling that i have about this.

---------------------------------

i was fuming when i wrote that. didn't expect my editor to be reading late, but he called me on the cell at 10:30pm and was like, "i thought about it and you're right. i'm gonna move some other stuff out of the way. go ahead and write what you have to write and don't pull any punches. i think this will HAVE to be a national story by next week--"

i cut across to say that yes, it will have to be. but it will NOT carry the correct analysis and put this in larger context. he agreed. said, 1400wds would be great, but if i need to go over, do what i gotta do.

in ten years of writing and several different editors, i have NEVER gone this route of demanding to write on something. (i've called up and strongly suggested, but they usually ask my opinion on major ish). but this was worth it.

what people read frames how they interpret and how they act. i want people to ACT based on this info.

btw, my editor pointed me to a blog on washingtonmonthly.com, which encapsulated how bush's systematic fucking up of FEMA set the stage for this. and our paper did an expose piece last sept on FEMA, including how bush appointed people to head it who had NO background in disaster management (the first director was bush's press secretary in texas, and the leader now, michael brown, was allbaugh's attorney).

as i am writing i am asking y'all to help brainstorm on finding sites where we can get congressman's emails, phone, etc. i'm committing to doing ALL of that shit.











peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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this post is for political action in response to the government's
Sep 01st 2005
1
link to the article on the sabotage by bush of FEMA:
Sep 01st 2005
2
damn thats fucked up
Sep 02nd 2005
19
      exactly. way more than that gets spent on just ONE minor disaster.
Sep 02nd 2005
31
           and we know why?.......theyblack!
Sep 02nd 2005
203
Spread the word man.......
Sep 01st 2005
3
thanks, yo. aid-wise, there is another post full of okp's trying to put
Sep 01st 2005
9
      on it n/m
Sep 02nd 2005
15
      To other countries, we look like bumbling idiots right now.......
Sep 02nd 2005
83
           !
Sep 02nd 2005
85
           exactly. see my article below. i try to articulate some of those concern...
Sep 02nd 2005
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           THANK you.
Sep 02nd 2005
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youre inspiring, man. i applaud you for this.
Sep 01st 2005
4
thanks. we all are, though. one drop of water ain't nuthin. a bunch
Sep 02nd 2005
28
NPR story on NO hurricane risks from 2002
Sep 01st 2005
5
i had missed this. good looks! nm
Sep 05th 2005
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this goes in my school's paper tomorrow
Sep 01st 2005
6
EXCELLENT. EVERY venue we have, every avenue of political
Sep 01st 2005
12
youre amazing dude
Sep 01st 2005
7
dude. imma have to hit this in the morning.
Sep 01st 2005
8
The TV issue
Sep 03rd 2005
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Link to Senate contact info.....
Sep 01st 2005
10
THANK YOU!!!!
Sep 01st 2005
13
Whatever I can do to help.....
Sep 02nd 2005
18
      start with this.
Sep 03rd 2005
210
Thanks
Sep 02nd 2005
22
And here are the Louisiana Senators...
Sep 02nd 2005
134
Alabama and Miss too ("R" is for RACIST: Especially the last one)
Sep 02nd 2005
136
honestly, is it better to write or email
Sep 03rd 2005
209
      if you mean call vs. email, i would email
Sep 03rd 2005
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           new news: do NOT send snail mail. off of rep brad miller's site,
Sep 03rd 2005
215
oh, damn... LOL
Sep 01st 2005
11
Link to US House contact info.....
Sep 02nd 2005
14
Link to Louisiana Legislature website.....
Sep 02nd 2005
16
i wanna paint, can someone link me to some images?
Sep 02nd 2005
17
Go to CNN.com.....
Sep 02nd 2005
20
is there any way
Sep 02nd 2005
30
      I don't think I can watch that video again.....
Sep 02nd 2005
38
      somebody need to make them stills for me
Sep 02nd 2005
54
           Here's one still I could find of him....
Sep 02nd 2005
61
                can you find a bigger one?
Sep 02nd 2005
63
                I blew it up....
Sep 02nd 2005
67
                     forbidden
Sep 02nd 2005
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                          Yeah, inbox me your email addy.....
Sep 02nd 2005
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                               Nevermind, I got your email from the earlier post....
Sep 02nd 2005
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                               dre@suite17d.com
Sep 02nd 2005
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                Here's another one.....
Sep 02nd 2005
64
      here's the looting picture:
Sep 02nd 2005
46
           Anybody seen this? Yahoo comments on "looting" vs "finding"
Sep 02nd 2005
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                Wow.
Sep 02nd 2005
172
a looting/finding painting would be too dope. hint.
Sep 02nd 2005
26
      you need to get aim
Sep 02nd 2005
33
Sometimes, OKP > > > Mainstream media
Sep 02nd 2005
21
CNN has been talking about all of this......
Sep 02nd 2005
32
word. the talking heads have been going at em. and ted koppel ripped
Sep 02nd 2005
50
you saw that too? ted was all calm and collect straight goin at
Sep 02nd 2005
60
True, I just heard CNN's Nancy Grace make some sense
Sep 02nd 2005
57
      i sent an e-mail to our local black journalist's association, pretty
Sep 02nd 2005
125
      Nancy Grace made some sense? Oh shit! I hate I missed it
Sep 02nd 2005
144
           You aint neva lied
Sep 02nd 2005
198
thanks. i need to edit it into a column before sunup. maybe
Sep 02nd 2005
41
senate and congress contact info:
Sep 02nd 2005
23
I was looking for this link, thanks.....
Sep 02nd 2005
35
You're anger is incredibly justified.
Sep 02nd 2005
24
any programmers? cgi? php? need your expertise on an e-mail script
Sep 02nd 2005
25
you can do this on microsoft word
Sep 02nd 2005
29
that would be great. but could that be done on the web? the intent
Sep 02nd 2005
43
      i can get you the names of every op ed editor in the US in 2 minutes
Sep 02nd 2005
47
           no min circulation. small town papers may be more apt to run something.
Sep 02nd 2005
51
                I've got 412 names
Sep 02nd 2005
52
I can script php.... but I'm shaky with it (cuz I don't do much web
Sep 02nd 2005
188
It is getting ugly
Sep 02nd 2005
27
a naval hospital is on its way there
Sep 02nd 2005
36
wonder how many people will have died by saturday
Sep 02nd 2005
39
read the article i linked up top. under clinton, they deployed them BEFO...
Sep 02nd 2005
45
i'm sayin... where are those fan boats???
Sep 02nd 2005
40
I fear for those left in the city
Sep 02nd 2005
80
this is wonderful! i love it!
Sep 02nd 2005
34
the e-mail script. and drafting letters. and hitting the links in
Sep 02nd 2005
49
      yeah i'm already familiar
Sep 02nd 2005
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Everyone should contact Congress tomorrow....
Sep 02nd 2005
37
go to www.washingtonmonthly.com for the scoop on how bush
Sep 02nd 2005
42
this is hurting me
Sep 02nd 2005
44
can you pleasepleaspleas link us to your article when it runs
Sep 02nd 2005
48
i posted the finished (at 4:30am this morning) article in a link
Sep 02nd 2005
92
Wow
Sep 02nd 2005
53
Jeezus... that account made me sad... n/m
Sep 02nd 2005
181
this letter needs its own post.
Sep 03rd 2005
217
**THE EDITORIAL PAGE EDITORS CONTACT LIST (412 names)**
Sep 02nd 2005
55
fantastic. thank you so much for this. if you can do the script in MS wo...
Sep 02nd 2005
56
ideally, if you wrote a letter in word, and had this excel sheet
Sep 02nd 2005
59
      damn. i don't use outlook. it shouldn't be too hard to setup, though,
Sep 02nd 2005
91
           sent. along with instructions. if you need anything else, hit my inbox
Sep 02nd 2005
99
           email me too, i got outlook at work....
Sep 02nd 2005
100
That's wsup right there! tight. n/m
Sep 02nd 2005
113
Media Atlas is my new favorite toy
Sep 02nd 2005
122
that's what's up
Sep 02nd 2005
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inbox me your email address, i can just send the excel sheet
Sep 02nd 2005
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RE: **THE EDITORIAL PAGE EDITORS CONTACT LIST (412 names)**
Sep 02nd 2005
205
OH MY FUCKING GOD
Sep 02nd 2005
58
wait a minute
Sep 02nd 2005
62
      no
Sep 02nd 2005
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           So basically they took her child.....
Sep 02nd 2005
68
                it's so fucked up
Sep 02nd 2005
81
wow. i'm glad i checked the boards before i went to bed....
Sep 02nd 2005
65
Welcome To The Terrordome (first couple of 'graphs, work in progress)
Sep 02nd 2005
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up
Sep 02nd 2005
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you on the west coast or just crazy like me?
Sep 02nd 2005
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      It was writer's restlessness, I guess.
Sep 02nd 2005
179
completed article is here:
Sep 02nd 2005
75
good read!*edit* GREAT READ!
Sep 02nd 2005
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GREAT read indeed
Sep 02nd 2005
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spectacular
Sep 02nd 2005
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only thing i'd say
Sep 02nd 2005
94
it's an op ed. (i posted here till about 1am strategizing and
Sep 02nd 2005
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how will we allow this administration to survive this?
Sep 02nd 2005
95
well done!
Sep 02nd 2005
127
i felt every bit of that! great writing.
Sep 02nd 2005
180
bravo
Sep 02nd 2005
199
Dope article, good shit....*daps*
Sep 03rd 2005
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thank you. (and everyone else). e-mail it to some ppl! nm
Sep 03rd 2005
224
This paragraph in particular was MOST hard hitting ..
Sep 04th 2005
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thanks. i was tryna fall back from the facts and just deal w/ the human
Sep 06th 2005
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you're a good man, yo.
Sep 05th 2005
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there WILL be hell to pay if this doesn't go to print.
Sep 08th 2005
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      nah, it ran yesterday. slight editing (took out the part where i said
Sep 08th 2005
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Regardless, WRITE
Sep 02nd 2005
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I Have A Distribution List
Sep 02nd 2005
79
RE: I Have A Distribution List
Sep 02nd 2005
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Our babies are dying from dehydration and racism.
Sep 02nd 2005
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thank you for this!!! sorry it took so late to read. but you hit it.
Sep 02nd 2005
145
post 55... whatever letters you get, distribute the f*** out of it
Sep 02nd 2005
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sun, this yt lady at the gig *just* told me
Sep 02nd 2005
88
like i said. i'm glad i work at home so i ain't had to talk to any of th...
Sep 02nd 2005
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and another thing...
Sep 02nd 2005
90
get @ harry connick jr
Sep 02nd 2005
96
harry connick jr is already on the case:
Sep 02nd 2005
116
yup i saw his interview.
Sep 02nd 2005
124
he's pissed as hell...made me cry...thats my doggie
Sep 02nd 2005
139
i know that, thats not what i'm talking about
Sep 02nd 2005
132
      I know via his superdome speech....
Sep 02nd 2005
149
           no, he was in baton rouge this morning speaking
Sep 02nd 2005
157
my aunt is harry's manager yo
Sep 02nd 2005
156
      if you could fwd this article to him that would be great.
Sep 03rd 2005
227
           i sent it to my aunt's email addy
Sep 04th 2005
230
optional tragedy.
Sep 02nd 2005
101
Check this out if you need it.
Sep 02nd 2005
102
YO, THANKS FOR THIS!!!!! i just used it to email my congressional
Sep 02nd 2005
119
NO's mayor was urging folks to contact congress/senators/etc...
Sep 02nd 2005
103
list is up above w/ senate and house e-mail and phone contacts.
Sep 02nd 2005
104
DONE
Sep 02nd 2005
107
'keep talkin about it' - mayor nagin
Sep 02nd 2005
128
ted kopel got up in his ass last night
Sep 02nd 2005
187
i sent it to the head of the Triangle Association of Black Journalists
Sep 02nd 2005
105
is there a formal link to your piece
Sep 02nd 2005
108
i think he just submitted it a few hours ago.
Sep 02nd 2005
109
i write for an alt newsWEEKLY it won't run till next wednesday.
Sep 02nd 2005
110
      oh word? lol.
Sep 02nd 2005
112
           cool. i should have put my contact info with it.
Sep 02nd 2005
115
                i posted again with your info
Sep 02nd 2005
121
                     thanks, t. one of these fools gonna f*ck around and put a microphone
Sep 02nd 2005
126
                          you can make that happen... Media Atlas also has tv/radio contacts
Sep 02nd 2005
130
                               word? i live in wake forest, NC (just north of raleigh).
Sep 02nd 2005
133
                                    i'll be on it in a little bit
Sep 02nd 2005
140
                                         ***HERES THE TV AND RADIO LIST***
Sep 02nd 2005
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imma try to submit it to my local paper here and in
Sep 02nd 2005
111
sent the article to my cousin bob. he real big on the nigganet.
Sep 02nd 2005
114
mind if
Sep 02nd 2005
129
My family was watching CNN last night when...
Sep 02nd 2005
117
just e-mailed my representative (thanks tonywashington). boy, that
Sep 02nd 2005
118
MP3 of Mayor Nagin on WWL.
Sep 02nd 2005
120
elizabeth dole's website won't take my comments. keeps saying
Sep 02nd 2005
131
thats so they know which form letter to send you without reading it
Sep 02nd 2005
141
i put CRIME
Sep 02nd 2005
143
Institution Building
Sep 02nd 2005
135
Sample Letter to your congressperson:
Sep 02nd 2005
137
done. sent to all of my representatives.
Sep 02nd 2005
146
RE: Sample Letter to your congressperson:
Sep 02nd 2005
147
e-mail for now, because time is critical. maybe snail mail later
Sep 02nd 2005
155
Thanks man.
Sep 02nd 2005
183
done
Sep 02nd 2005
189
done..n/m
Sep 03rd 2005
213
Man I'm proud of okp right now n/m
Sep 02nd 2005
142
you wont believe this, but i had this very idea last night &
Sep 02nd 2005
148
my article might be published on aol blackvoices.
Sep 02nd 2005
150
RE: my article might be published on aol blackvoices.
Sep 02nd 2005
165
hi there
Sep 04th 2005
228
      done. if the format is all jacked, let me know and i'll send from my rea...
Sep 04th 2005
231
EMAIL OPRAH.
Sep 02nd 2005
151
she's from mississippi
Sep 02nd 2005
158
he's what gave me the idea to contact celebs
Sep 02nd 2005
160
holler @ tom joyner & blackamericaweb.com too
Sep 02nd 2005
162
      and kathy hughes - chuges@radio-one.com
Sep 02nd 2005
166
           should it be chughees@radio-one.com ? also, i can't get an e-mail
Sep 02nd 2005
171
           i dunno, that's the address i copied & pasted from this site-
Sep 02nd 2005
177
                lol. they own site is wrong. (i love black ppl**).
Sep 03rd 2005
216
           & bob johnson's ex-wife....
Sep 02nd 2005
186
Mayor to Feds: "Get off your asses"
Sep 02nd 2005
152
Political Cartoons on Katrina's aftermath
Sep 02nd 2005
153
inbox.
Sep 02nd 2005
154
thumbs up to this post
Sep 02nd 2005
161
great article. great post.
Sep 02nd 2005
163
wow. i could not have said that better. nm
Sep 02nd 2005
200
I wrote all my congress people
Sep 02nd 2005
164
cool. i just wrote sen. kennedy, too. thanks. nm
Sep 02nd 2005
170
i'm clapping at your heart mind and soul...
Sep 02nd 2005
167
Thank you for your action. You have perfectly worded my rage.
Sep 02nd 2005
168
anyone know the status of folks incarcerated?
Sep 02nd 2005
169
i recall reading they were bused to prisons in baton rouge
Sep 02nd 2005
173
      I smell an uprising
Sep 02nd 2005
195
im finna write up an online petition
Sep 02nd 2005
176
***TV AND RADIO LIST FOR RALEIGH DURHAM***
Sep 02nd 2005
178
GOOD LOOKS! I just sent a copy to prog dir and public affairs dir
Sep 02nd 2005
191
      i work with WFNC
Sep 03rd 2005
214
ONLINE PETITION
Sep 02nd 2005
182
signed. now can we get one to opt out of america?
Sep 02nd 2005
184
I know a guy with a show @ the NPR station in Santa Fe
Sep 02nd 2005
185
got a blog/website?
Sep 02nd 2005
190
Done.
Sep 02nd 2005
197
Done
Sep 02nd 2005
207
Michael Moore's Open Letter To Bush
Sep 02nd 2005
192
this is dope shit..
Sep 02nd 2005
193
i just got off the jack with my people in the boot.
Sep 02nd 2005
194
http://www.gov.state.la.us/contact.asp
Sep 02nd 2005
196
God Bless us all....
Sep 02nd 2005
201
the two sides of the global warming = hurricane debate
Sep 02nd 2005
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i think it's counterproductive to even broach the global warming
Sep 03rd 2005
219
Republicans take action:
Sep 02nd 2005
204
wow. that's downright ghoulish in impact and probably in intent.
Sep 06th 2005
234
keep it up poetx!!
Sep 02nd 2005
206
**ANOTHER EMAIL WEBSITE LINK - US GOVT, SENATE, HOUSE**
Sep 02nd 2005
208
"does any have any newspaper images"
Sep 03rd 2005
211
If anyone has specific members of the media they want to contact
Sep 03rd 2005
218
Has anyone written about the use of "refugees"...
Sep 03rd 2005
220
are you going to re-write to include kanye
Sep 03rd 2005
221
it's already absolutely done. before i posted it here i'd already
Sep 03rd 2005
225
OMG! I know why they waited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 03rd 2005
222
article from NY Times yesterday on FEMA appointments, etc:
Sep 06th 2005
236
FUMING!!!!
Sep 06th 2005
237
Letter Writing
Sep 06th 2005
238
I think my letter is getting published in a paper
Sep 06th 2005
239
that is excellent. way to stay at it. btw, sen obama is calling for
Sep 06th 2005
242
The mayor of Shelby County responded to my email!!
Sep 06th 2005
240
that is awesome! thanks for letting us know that (haven't heard anything
Sep 06th 2005
241
lol @ clownass director of FEMA (link to FEMA memo from m. brown)
Sep 06th 2005
243
Please distribute the memo to everyone you know...
Sep 07th 2005
244
      word. we here: >> <<
Sep 07th 2005
245
           Dope. Letter writing is actually more important now.
Sep 07th 2005
246
                You're absolutely correct.
Sep 07th 2005
250
new canned letter: CALLING FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION
Sep 07th 2005
247
if FEMA Dir is fired, his assistants are even MORE unqualified!!! (SWIPE...
Sep 07th 2005
248
You have done an outstanding deed.
Sep 07th 2005
249
look right below. nm
Sep 07th 2005
252
my article ran today...
Sep 07th 2005
251
amazing!!
Sep 08th 2005
259
you make us proud
Sep 09th 2005
263
      any word from allhiphop.com? also, when i sent the e-mail,
Sep 09th 2005
264
How FEMA delivered the 2004 election *swipe*
Sep 08th 2005
253
damn. i hadn't connected the two. brown and allbaugh were both
Sep 08th 2005
254
yo man, many props for this.
Sep 08th 2005
255
thanks.
Sep 08th 2005
256
man eff writing...i'm CALLING my congressman...
Sep 08th 2005
258
please e him all the links w/ the backup (in particular, the story
Sep 08th 2005
260
      i'mma do what i can, man.
Sep 08th 2005
262
more stuff to be pissed about (and to remind your govt reps and
Sep 10th 2005
265
deplorable.
Sep 10th 2005
266
My letter to Michael Reagan...
Sep 10th 2005
267

poetx
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1. "this post is for political action in response to the government's"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

gross negligence and mismanagement of this disaster. this must NEVER happen again.



peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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poetx
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2. "link to the article on the sabotage by bush of FEMA:"
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http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2004-09-22/cover.html

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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19. "damn thats fucked up"
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all to "save" $200 mil?
thats chump change in the big scheme of gov budgets.

**ima show u how to get ya shine on**

give me dat million dolla beat and let me show you what to do wit it/ who dat is?/ that's the illest rapper chopped and screwin' it/ couldn't snatch the game is what they told me so i'm provin' it (c) cham

  

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poetx
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31. "exactly. way more than that gets spent on just ONE minor disaster."
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200 mil ain't shit.

and they've essentially said that the lives of those 100-200k ppl in NO ain't shit.

and those people on the gulf coast of ms, and in alabama, etc.


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203. "and we know why?.......theyblack!"
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3. "Spread the word man......."
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...this may sound 'silly' but I'm in JA (kingston jamaica)...what can i do to help??

  

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9. "thanks, yo. aid-wise, there is another post full of okp's trying to put"
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something together (by abby). there's also redcross.org and secondharvest.org.


politically, i was gonna say that since you're in the US you don't have a congressperson, but you know what? it may even be BETTER if you write a letter.

talk about how the US projects itself to the world, as a land of opportunity where people are treated equally, and yet it appalls you to see its black citizens left in worse conditions than animals and our mighty government suddenly impotent to pull them out of harm's way and ease their suffering.

send that to some US papers, and encourage your countrymen to do the same. this country needs to be SHAMED into admitting how badly it has fucked up in this.

anyone out there can help get a list going of newspaper op ed addresses? we need something where we can send out a blast and hit multiple joints at one.

can someone put together a cgi that does a (for lack of a better word) 'mail-merge' an automatically replaces the header and to: information with the correct info for the specific paper (from a flat file or list of variables). so that we can shoot the body of one e-mail to multiple people?

that would be dope and i know one of you could code it. i used to could, but i don't eff around w/ web stuff as much as i used to.
peace & blessings,

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15. "on it n/m"
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83. "To other countries, we look like bumbling idiots right now......."
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.......according to people I know in other countries, the basic response of our Media is why the fuck didn't we do something to get those people out of there, why the fuck didn't we provide better conditions, etc, etc.

They're not from America, some have never been here - but they understand that a lot of those people couldn't afford to leave, or maybe they as individuals could afford, but they couldn't abandon other family and friends.

This whole thing is making me ill.

We have to wait for national guard troops to show-up?!

We have plenty of military bases right here in the US, how about we mobilize our own military to go to NO to get people out, provide medical treatment, deliver food, arrest the knuckleheads, etc.

Don't even get me started on the areas of AL and MS that are getting NO press and NO help.

I would almost feel better about this, if I felt it was "just" racism or discrimination against poor people.

But then I saw coverage on MSNBC of middle-class Whites that hadn't seen nary a head nor tail of assistance in four days (In MS) and they're trapped and desperate too (Although not as bad as in New Orleans).

We're talking about having to evacuate a MAJOR CITY of the United States and we have military, cop, state trooper and other emergency personnel sitting on their asses. You mean Georgia can lend LA a few cops?

When 9/11 happened Fire Companies from all over the country lent a hand - why can't EMTs from all over show up in LA.

We have the money, the capabilities, the resources, EVERYTHING that is needed to calm that situation down and get those people out of there.

No one should be in New Orleans right now who doesn't want to be.

NO ONE

The same goes for people suffering in neighboring counties.

Basically, Black or White, Rich or Poor - if you're stuck because of this disaster, the Govt. doesn't give a fuck and/or is too incompetent to marshall the forces necessary to do anything.

Or Media isn't even talking about this, isn't addressing the real problem and are just as culpable.

Yes, a few knuckleheads are looting Wal-Mart, so fucking what?!

Rescue the people.



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85. "!"
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97. "exactly. see my article below. i try to articulate some of those concern..."
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my rage. this is incomprehensible. i work in IT. i solve problems for a living, at the drop of a hat.

the most MINOR problem we ever would have had would have garnered more attention than this.


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123. "THANK you."
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-------
<---- PSA: Don't fall for this



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4. "youre inspiring, man. i applaud you for this."
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**ima show u how to get ya shine on**

give me dat million dolla beat and let me show you what to do wit it/ who dat is?/ that's the illest rapper chopped and screwin' it/ couldn't snatch the game is what they told me so i'm provin' it (c) cham

  

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28. "thanks. we all are, though. one drop of water ain't nuthin. a bunch"
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of them mickey fickey's together, though is a force to be reckoned with.


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5. "NPR story on NO hurricane risks from 2002"
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this was posted earlier but that post got deleted. Its scary how right they were

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1150366

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1150367

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233. "i had missed this. good looks! nm"
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peace & blessings,

x.

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6. "this goes in my school's paper tomorrow"
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http://www.dudmatic.com/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_84386/04~hurrication.jpg

  

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12. "EXCELLENT. EVERY venue we have, every avenue of political"
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and social pressure, let's flex that shit. right now.

make the tsunami shit (ie, okp's calling out HOT 97 after they joked on it) seem like a warmup. which it was.

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7. "youre amazing dude"
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this has seriously inspired me

  

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8. "dude. imma have to hit this in the morning."
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i was JUST talking about this.

it's like folks are like "why are they taking TVs?"...when they should be asking "why are they still there? and what's being done to get them out?"

*sigh*

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226. "The TV issue"
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They probably taking the Tvs to barter their asses out of there.

>i was JUST talking about this.
>
>it's like folks are like "why are they taking TVs?"...when
>they should be asking "why are they still there? and what's
>being done to get them out?"
>
>*sigh*

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10. "Link to Senate contact info....."
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http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm



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13. "THANK YOU!!!!"
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peace & blessings,

x.

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18. "Whatever I can do to help....."
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I'm not a wordy person, so I couldn't even begin to try to articulate my outrage at what I've been witnessing on CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC over the last four days. So if I can help someone who can, I will......



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210. "start with this."
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ref·u·gee ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rfy-j)
n.
One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.

  

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22. "Thanks"
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Just lefta message for Ms. Clinton expressing my outrage and concern as a NY resident, and urging her to question what is taking so long to get these people help.


Please pray for all those affected.


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134. "And here are the Louisiana Senators..."
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Landrieu, Mary- (D - LA) Class II
724 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5824
Web Form: landrieu.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Vitter, David- (R - LA) Class III
516 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4623
Web Form: vitter.senate.gov/contact.cfm

Keep fightin man, I'm glad there are people like you on this site.

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136. "Alabama and Miss too ("R" is for RACIST: Especially the last one)"
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Let's get at'em though...

Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL) Class II
335 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4124
Web Form: sessions.senate.gov/email/contact.cfm

Shelby, Richard- (R - AL) Class III
110 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5744
E-mail: senator@shelby.senate.gov

Cochran, Thad- (R - MS) Class II
113 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5054
Web Form: cochran.senate.gov/contact.htm

Lott, Trent- (R - MS) Class I
487 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-6253
E-mail: senatorlott@lott.senate.gov

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209. "honestly, is it better to write or email"
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which is the most effective?

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212. "if you mean call vs. email, i would email"
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depends on if you speak more eloquently than you write. usu. i say it's better to write. i remember hearing of this theory about writing representatives where they assume every piece of written correspondents represents 10 constituents who feel the same but never took the time to write.
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215. "new news: do NOT send snail mail. off of rep brad miller's site,"
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it says, in italics, that due to increased security (remember anthrax??), it now takes 2-4 WEEKS for them to get any physical mail from you. not good.

e-mail, it is.


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11. "oh, damn... LOL"
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and by "LOL", The Doc was expressing a knee-jerk reaction to the power of that intitial reply...

after an hour or two of watching CNN, The Doc had to shut that BS off for the reasons you specified...

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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14. "Link to US House contact info....."
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http://www.house.gov/writerep/



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16. "Link to Louisiana Legislature website....."
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http://www.legis.state.la.us/




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17. "i wanna paint, can someone link me to some images?"
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20. "Go to CNN.com....."
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go to the Photo Gallery marked "Despair", there are plenty of images there......



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30. "is there any way"
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that someone can capture stills of the man who was seperated from his wife?
i know its on video but i doont know how to capture stills
can someone do that and email it to me?

drea@suite17d.com

  

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38. "I don't think I can watch that video again....."
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if I knew how to capture stills I would, where's jose3030?



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54. "somebody need to make them stills for me"
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i swear to god id start painting tomorrow night

  

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61. "Here's one still I could find of him...."
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I'm looking for better, clearer ones for you.....

http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20050830-011/Image-4.jpg



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63. "can you find a bigger one?"
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something thats at least 3-4 inches bigger

  

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67. "I blew it up...."
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its a little distorted though......

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid184/p3b6cb023ea0aa36b7c70b35608ac12e3/f284433a.jpg



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69. "forbidden"
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can you email it to me?

  

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70. "Yeah, inbox me your email addy....."
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72. "Nevermind, I got your email from the earlier post...."
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I just sent it to you.....



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73. "dre@suite17d.com"
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64. "Here's another one....."
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http://www.tampabaylive.com/images/stories/2005/08/0831jackson.jpg


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46. "here's the looting picture:"
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050830/480/ladm10208301530

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138. "Anybody seen this? Yahoo comments on "looting" vs "finding""
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http://news.yahoo.com/page/photostatement

To Yahoo! News readers:

News photos are an especially popular section of Yahoo! News. In part, this is because we present thousands of news photos from some of the leading news services, including The Associated Press, Reuters, and Agence France Press. To make this volume of photos available in a timely manner, we present the photos and their captions as written, edited and distributed by the news services with no additional editing at Yahoo! News.

In recent days, a number of readers of Yahoo! News have commented on differences in the language in two Hurricane Katrina-related photo captions (from two news services). Since the controversy began, the supplier of one of the photos – AFP – has asked all its clients to remove the photo from their databases. Yahoo! News has complied with the AFP request.

Here are a few of the postings that have commented on the photo caption language:

Flickr

Salon

Romenesko

Gothamist

You can comment on the issue on this message board.

Yahoo! News regrets that these photos and captions, viewed together, may have suggested a racial bias on our part. We remain committed to bringing our readers the full collection of photos as transmitted by our wire service partners.

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172. "Wow."
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>Yahoo! News regrets that these photos and captions, viewed
>together, may have suggested a racial bias on our part. We
>remain committed to bringing our readers the full collection
>of photos as transmitted by our wire service partners.
>

The power of speaking up. It may seem inconsequential, but every word, letter, phone call, email, shout, SCREAM helps.

  

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26. "a looting/finding painting would be too dope. hint."
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33. "you need to get aim"
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so we can chat it up
i just got a new canvas too
its completely blank and ready to be used

  

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21. "Sometimes, OKP > > > Mainstream media"
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I find it HIGHY disturbing that I've gained more insight into the Katrina catastrophe from OKP than from any other mainstream source (except the NY Times, they are pretty good).

I mean, the bias and superficiality of the media is a disgrace.
Barely anybody else is talking about the poverty, the racism, and the government's role in this disaster that has brought about Third World existence in New Orleans. With all the educated journalists and political pundits out there, why is OKP one of the only places that has brought this up?? And OKP isn't even a news source!! lol

But like, for real...WTF happened to investigative journalism??

Oh yeah, and I love your angry letter. lol
You should edit it and send it to all of the major news desks, and put THEM on blast!

  

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32. "CNN has been talking about all of this......"
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the poverty, the racism,
>and the government's role in this disaster that has brought
>about Third World existence in New Orleans.

Albeit not as much as they should, but they have been talking about it and their reporters and anchors have all been angrily grilling the hell out of any government official that comes on TV to be interviewed......



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50. "word. the talking heads have been going at em. and ted koppel ripped"
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into the FEMA dir's ass on nightline. he got all in his shit. dude was trying to be vague and ted was like, 'naw, i'm not talking about what the state didn't do, i'm talking about what YOU didn't do".

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60. "you saw that too? ted was all calm and collect straight goin at"
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dude.

but then at the end did u notice his aplogy?

shit was kinda strange.

**ima show u how to get ya shine on**

give me dat million dolla beat and let me show you what to do wit it/ who dat is?/ that's the illest rapper chopped and screwin' it/ couldn't snatch the game is what they told me so i'm provin' it (c) cham

  

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57. "True, I just heard CNN's Nancy Grace make some sense"
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snapping at a New Orleans senator that of course people are going to attack a bus if they're starving and want to get on it.

She also stated that the hardest hit by the hurricane are the poor and minorities, who couldn't escape.

Maybe the media will halfway redeem itself, but I'm scared to even watch the news programs for fear that they'll just let me down and anger me.

  

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125. "i sent an e-mail to our local black journalist's association, pretty"
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much telling them that THEY have power and need to do something to influence this situation.

i need to contact NABJ, too, even though i'm not a member of that.


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144. "Nancy Grace made some sense? Oh shit! I hate I missed it"
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Write that shit down. That may be the last time you see that.

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198. "You aint neva lied"
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She stay comin out of her mouth with ridiculous, overdramatic nonsense, and she tends to go on tangents on topics that don't need to be focused on like that.
Hell must have frozen over. lol

  

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41. "thanks. i need to edit it into a column before sunup. maybe"
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take some of the curses out. maybe fucking not.

but yeah. thanks. i think my congressfolks are about to get it, too.

i'm that pissed. i'm on some ent shit. slow to anger, but when i DO get there...

i'm trying to bring down saruman's tower, yo. and i'm encouraging as many folx as possible to start throwing boulders.


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23. "senate and congress contact info:"
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house phone numbers, alphabetically
http://clerk.house.gov/members/mcapdir.html

full senate contact info, including phone AND email
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

seriously man, over the last couple of days, ive been inspired reading your posts. i'll be perfectly honest and say that i havent been inspired to the point of action, but youve made me think, which counts for something. good luck with this. i look forward to reading it.

*Jews you*

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35. "I was looking for this link, thanks....."
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>house phone numbers, alphabetically
>http://clerk.house.gov/members/mcapdir.html



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24. "You're anger is incredibly justified."
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It's forever been known that New Orleans had the potential for disaster being below sea level. And it's insane to think that this is the plan the government had in an event like this. Government officials need to be held directly responsible for this because they've had the knowledge to forever prepare for the event. This shit didn't just come out of the blue.

Edit: Is OkayPlayer making a group contribution or anything similar? I'd like to get involved if that is the case.

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25. "any programmers? cgi? php? need your expertise on an e-mail script"
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here's the rough specs:

data: we need to get a list of newspaper op ed addresses (and their editors)

requirement: we need something where we can send out a blast and hit multiple joints at once.

can someone put together a cgi that does a (for lack of a better word) 'mail-merge' and automatically replaces the header and "to:" information with the correct info for the specific paper (from a flat file or list of variables). so that we can shoot the body of one e-mail to multiple people?

for each paper getting it, i want the shit to look like it was just to them, nahmean?

basically, it would look like...


To: "variable.newsoutlet" , editorinchiefaddress@theirurl.com

Subject: (YOUR SUBJECT / default of "The response to hurricane Katrina is a national DISGRACE"

(e-mail body from form / default e-mail body that we can write up**)

From: (YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, ETC)

-------------------------------------------------
that would be dope and i know one of you could code it. i used to could, but i don't eff around w/ web stuff as much as i used to.

if something already exists on the web and someone can "google, motherfucker", hey, i appreciate that, too.

** we could provide a default letter but it would really be better if it is different and not spam-like. either that or we could have maybe four or five variations of the letter (i'll write em all or okp's can help) and the program can pick one of them joints at random to merge if a player opts for the default.

i want this shit shotgunned out to everyone from the washington post and ny times to the fucking podunk, iowa gazette, and the bumbaclot, alaska herald. OK??????




peace & blessings,

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29. "you can do this on microsoft word"
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they have mail merges. all you have to do is create an excel sheet with the contact info, and set it up. i do this often in my job.

and i work in PR, so i have access to Media Atlas, which is a giant directory of every media outlet in the US. as i mentioned, your posts have inspired me, and this is anopportunity that i can actually help. I'll be more than happy to help with whatever you need.

*Jews you*

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43. "that would be great. but could that be done on the web? the intent"
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is to make it easy for ANY interested person to be able to login, fill out a form, and shotgun their letters simultaneously to all listed news outlets, and govt officials.

also, if possible, i'd like it to come from their address, as opposed to the same ip of the script hosting site, you know?

any help you can provide would be much appreciated.

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47. "i can get you the names of every op ed editor in the US in 2 minutes"
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got a minimum circulation in mind?

*Jews you*

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51. "no min circulation. small town papers may be more apt to run something."
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(long as we don't offend their sensibilities).

if its not an undue burden on servers for mailing scripts, the more the merrier.


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52. "I've got 412 names"
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*Jews you*

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188. "I can script php.... but I'm shaky with it (cuz I don't do much web"
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programming)...... it would take a while.

Most of my programming is standalone (Windows .exe programs).

  

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27. "It is getting ugly"
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As I'm watching the footage, I've been thinking of this. If this happened in a more "affluent" area, would relief efforts have been faster? Or hell, if it happened in an area where the population is primarily white, regardless if they are high or low income, would we be seeing all of the pain and suffering going on?

People are dying. Babies, elderly, those who may have conditions that need medical attention. They knew the earthquake was coming. They should've been there Tuesday morning, if not Monday night. I heard talk about how boats can't come into the gulf because there's too much debris. Someone correct me here, but aren't the Navy trained to go into any and all conditions? Nothing against those who suffered and died in the tsunami, but a ship was made available there in less than 18 hours, parts of which became a makeshift hospital.

This is what I've found interesting, on both TV and NPR coverage. There are trying not to pick sides, trying not to make it political, but people keep asking "has the war in Iraq in anyway slowed down the process in getting help done on the Gulf Coast?" There are so many angles you can come up with, positive and negative, on that statement alone.






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36. "a naval hospital is on its way there"
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granted they waited until yesterday to deploy but its due to arrive saturday
it has 12 ORs and 1000 beds
not nearly enough, but its better than nothing

  

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39. "wonder how many people will have died by saturday"
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45. "read the article i linked up top. under clinton, they deployed them BEFO..."
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the storm for storms where they anticipated heavy hits and casualties. it is absolutely INSANE that they were not sent until now.

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40. "i'm sayin... where are those fan boats???"
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those shits look like they can go ANYWHERE

*Jews you*

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80. "I fear for those left in the city"
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the longer they stay, chances are they'll never get out.

cruiseships should be docked and taking people in.
they could be doing air drops.
people are dying in droves.
people haven't ate for days.
and what happen to the rescue and recover?
the last one i saw them take up was the sister with the sheet over her.
man!
they could have prevented this.
now here comes martial law and wide spread disease.
i fear both will spread.

  

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34. "this is wonderful! i love it!"
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i saw that the senators and congress people's addresses were posted. what else do we need?

  

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49. "the e-mail script. and drafting letters. and hitting the links in"
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here to familiarize yourself (if you are not already) with the larger issues.


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106. "yeah i'm already familiar"
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i'm gonna email some of this stuff around.

  

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37. "Everyone should contact Congress tomorrow...."
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just about everyone has a cellphone with free long distance, as many people as possible should call up as many Congressmen as they can tomorrow and express your outrage at how they aren't doing ANYTHING to help these people in New Orleans.

I don't think the government realizes how many people are just incensed at their total lack of inaction......



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42. "go to www.washingtonmonthly.com for the scoop on how bush"
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fucked up fema. you will be amazed and shocked and awed. guaranteed.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com

these motherfuckers never even worked in disaster relief or related areas before. and in charge of this.

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44. "this is hurting me"
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man this is all fucked up

  

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48. "can you pleasepleaspleas link us to your article when it runs"
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i have been on the verge of tears today. i wish i could put my hands on everything there to heal the despair. there is not enough money i could give to help in the way that i know these ppl need. pls keep coming with the good ideas, all of the congresspeople and senators are on my to do list tomorrow morning.

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92. "i posted the finished (at 4:30am this morning) article in a link"
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below.

the article won't run until next Wednesday (i am a monthy columnist for an alternative news weekly).

i am going to be sending it to other outlets, though. it violates my 1st publishing rights arrangement with my paper, but wtf.

will post the link when this runs on wednesday, though.

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53. "Wow"
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from: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

The Real News
The following is the result of an interview I just conducted via cell phone with a New Orleans citizen stranded at the Convention Center. I don't know what you're hearing in the mainstream media or in the press conferences from the city and state officials, but here is the truth:

"Bigfoot" is a bar manager and DJ on Bourbon Street, and is a local personality and icon in the city. He is a lifelong resident of the city, born and raised. He rode out the storm itself in the Iberville Projects because he knew he would be above any flood waters. Here is his story as told to me moments ago. I took notes while he talked and then I asked some questions:

Three days ago, police and national guard troops told citizens to head toward the Crescent City Connection Bridge to await transportation out of the area. The citizens trekked over to the Convention Center and waited for the buses which they were told would take them to Houston or Alabama or somewhere else, out of this area.

It's been 3 days, and the buses have yet to appear.

Although obviously he has no exact count, he estimates more than 10,000 people are packed into and around and outside the convention center still waiting for the buses. They had no food, no water, and no medicine for the last three days, until today, when the National Guard drove over the bridge above them, and tossed out supplies over the side crashing down to the ground below. Much of the supplies were destroyed from the drop. Many people tried to catch the supplies to protect them before they hit the ground. Some offered to walk all the way around up the bridge and bring the supplies down, but any attempt to approach the police or national guard resulted in weapons being aimed at them.

There are many infants and elderly people among them, as well as many people who were injured jumping out of windows to escape flood water and the like -- all of them in dire straights.

Any attempt to flag down police results in being told to get away at gunpoint. Hour after hour they watch buses pass by filled with people from other areas. Tensions are very high, and there has been at least one murder and several fights. 8 or 9 dead people have been stored in a freezer in the area, and 2 of these dead people are kids.

The people are so desperate that they're doing anything they can think of to impress the authorities enough to bring some buses. These things include standing in single file lines with the eldery in front, women and children next; sweeping up the area and cleaning the windows and anything else that would show the people are not barbarians.

The buses never stop.

Before the supplies were pitched off the bridge today, people had to break into buildings in the area to try to find food and water for their families. There was not enough. This spurred many families to break into cars to try to escape the city. There was no police response to the auto thefts until the mob reached the rich area -- Saulet Condos -- once they tried to get cars from there... well then the whole swat teams began showing up with rifles pointed. Snipers got on the roof and told people to get back.

He reports that the conditions are horrendous. Heat, mosquitoes and utter misery. The smell, he says, is "horrific."

He says it's the slowest mandatory evacuation ever, and he wants to know why they were told to go to the Convention Center area in the first place; furthermore, he reports that many of them with cell phones have contacts willing to come rescue them, but people are not being allowed through to pick them up.



I have "Bigfoot"'s phone number and will gladly give it to any city or state official who would like to tell him how everything is under control.

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181. "Jeezus... that account made me sad... n/m"
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<------- Bye bye Patrick, you will always be a God amongst the Highbury greats...

  

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that's so heartbreaking...how can this be happening in America? my brain can't even fully comprehend the suffering and despair that those people are enduring...

  

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55. "**THE EDITORIAL PAGE EDITORS CONTACT LIST (412 names)**"
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a few might be a little outdated, but its the best i can do.

Outlet Name First Name Last Name Contact Title Contact Phone Number Contact E-mail
Advocate, The Joy Haenlein Editorial Page Editor (203) 964-2293 joy.haenlein@scni.com
Advocate-Messenger, The John Davis Editorial Page Editor ext. 136 john@amnews.com
Aiken Standard Jeffrey Wallace Editorial Page Editor ext. 278 jwallace@aikenstandard.com
Alameda Times-Star Tom Tuttle Editorial Page Editor (925) 416-4852 ttuttle@angnewspapers.com
Albany Democrat-Herald Hasso Hering Editorial Page Editor (541) 926-2211 hasso.hering@lee.net
Albuquerque Journal Bill Hume Editorial Page Editor (505) 823-3860 bhume@abqjournal.com
Albuquerque Journal Steve Mills Editorial Page Editor (505) 823-3800 smills@abqjournal.com
Albuquerque Tribune, The Jack Ehn Editorial Page Editor (505) 823-3616 jehn@abqtrib.com
Albuquerque Tribune, The Larry Spohn Assistant Editorial Page Editor (505) 823-3611 lspohn@abqtrib.com
Amarillo Globe-News John Kanelis Editorial Page Editor (806) 345-3358 jkanelis@amarillonet.com
Anderson Independent-Mail Bonnie Williams Editorial Page Editor (864) 260-1344 williamsbc@independentmail.com
Ann Arbor News, The Victor Schaffner Editorial Page Editor (734) 994-6764 vschaffner@annarbornews.com
Anniston Star Bob Davis Editorial Page Editor (256) 235-3591 bdavis@annistonstar.com
Argus Leader Jon Walker Editorial Page Editor (605) 331-2300 jwalker@argusleader.com
Argus, The Tom Tuttle Editorial Page Editor (925) 416-4852 ttuttle@angnewspapers.com
Arizona Daily Star Dennis Joyce Editorial Page Editor (520) 573-4235 djoyce@azstarnet.com
Arizona Republic, The Phil Boas Op Ed Writer (602) 444-8292 phil.boas@arizonarepublic.com
Arizona Republic, The Ken Western Editorial Page Editor (602) 444-8138 ken.western@arizonarepublic.com
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette Paul Greenberg Editorial Page Editor (501) 378-3482 paul_greenberg@adg.ardemgaz.com
Asbury Park Press Randy Bergmann Editorial Page Editor x4034 rbergmann@app.com
Asheville Citizen-Times Joy Franklin Editorial Page Editor (828) 232-5895 jfrankli@ashevill.gannett.com
Atlanta Journal-Constitution Jay Bookman Deputy Editorial Page Editor/Columnist (404) 526-5464 jbookman@ajc.com
Atlanta Journal-Constitution Cynthia Tucker Editorial Page Editor (404) 526-5084 cynthia@ajc.com
Atlanta Journal-Constitution James Wooten Associate Editorial Page Editor (404) 526-5308 jwooten@ajc.com
Augusta Chronicle Michael Ryan Editorial Page Editor (706) 823-3366 michael.ryan@augustachronicle.com
Austin American-Statesman A. Phillips Brooks Editorial Page Editor (512) 445-3500
Austin American-Statesman Arnold Garcia Editorial Page Editor (512) 445-3667 agarcia@statesman.com
Bakersfield Californian, The Dianne Hardisty Editorial Page Editor (661) 395-7414 dhardisty@bakersfield.com
Baltimore Sun, The Richard Gross Editorial Page Editor (410) 332-6459 richard.gross@baltsun.com
Baltimore Sun, The Ann LoLordo Assistant Editorial Page Editor (410) 332-6000 ann.lolordo@baltsun.com
Barstow Desert Dispatch Steve Williams Editorial Page Editor (760) 256-2257
Batavia Daily News Sharon Larsen Editorial Page Editor (585) 343-8000 news@batavianews.com
Beatrice Daily Sun Diane Vicars Editorial Page Editor (402) 223-5233
Beaufort Gazette James Cato Editor/Publisher/Editorial Page Editor (843) 986-5505 jcato@beaufortgazette.com
Beaumont Enterprise Tom Tascingher Editorial Page Editor (409) 838-2887 ttaschinger@beaumontenterprise.com
Beaver County Times Bob Uhriniak Editorial Page Editor 1(724) 775-3200x169 timesletters@timesonline.com
Belleville News-Democrat Lori Browning Editorial Page Editor (618) 234-1000 lbrowning@bnd.com
Bellingham Herald Scott Ayers Editorial Page Editor (360) 715-2294 scott.ayers@bellinghamherald.com
Berkshire Eagle Bill Everhart Editorial Page Editor (413) 496-6271 beverhart@berkshireeagle.com
Billings Gazette, The Pat Bellinghausen Editorial Page Editor (406) 657-1303 pbellinghausen@billingsgazette.com
Birmingham News, The Bob Blalock Editorial Page Editor (205) 325-2117 bblalock@bhamnews.com
Birmingham Post-Herald Karl Seitz Editorial Page Editor (205) 325-2488 kseitz@postherald.com
Blade, The Thomas Walton Opinion Page Editor (419) 724-6170 twalton@theblade.com
Boston Globe, The Renee Loth Editorial Page Editor (617) 929-3035 loth@globe.com
Boston Herald, The Rachelle Cohen Editorial Page Editor (617) 426-3000 oped@bostonherald.com
Boston Metro Mark Moore Editor-in-Chief (617) 210-7905
Bucks County Courier Times Guy Petroziello Editorial Page Editor (215) 949-4162 gpetroziello@phillyburbs.com
Buffalo News Gerald Goldberg Editorial Page Editor (716) 849-4425 jgoldberg@buffnews.com
Buffalo News Mike Vogel Editorial Writer (716) 849-4494 mvogel@buffnews.com
Bulletin, The Erik Lukens Editorial Page Editor (541) 617-7816 elukens@bendbulletin.com
Burlington County Times Fredda Sacharow Editorial Page Editor (609) 871-8079 bct.letters@calkinsnewpaper.com
Capital, The Ed Casey Editorial Page Editor ext. 3006 ECasey@capitalgazette.com
Capital, The Gerald Fischman Editorial Page Editor (410) 280-5917 gfischman@capitalgazette.com
Casper Star-Tribune Claudie Ortiz Editorial Page Editor (307) 266-0549 ortiz@trib.com
Charleston Daily Mail Johanna Maurice Editorial Page Editor (304) 348-4802
Charleston Gazette, The Susanna Rodell Editorial Page Editor (304) 348-5150 srodell@wvgazette.com
Charlotte Observer, The Jane McAlister Pope Deputy Editorial Page Editor (704) 358-5017
Charlotte Observer, The Ed Williams Editorial Page Editor (704) 358-5012 ewilliams@charlotteobserver.com
Charlotte Sun John Hackworth Editorial Page Editor (941) 206-1100 hackworth@sun-herald.com
Chicago Sun-Times Steve Huntley Editorial Page Editor (312) 321-2535 shuntley@suntimes.com
Chicago Tribune Bruce Dold Editorial Page Editor (312) 222-3232 bdold@tribune.com
Chillicothe Gazette Mike Frown Editorial Page Editor (740) 772-9360 mfrown@nncogannett.com
Cincinnati Enquirer Ray Cooklis Assistant Editorial Page Editor, Guest C (513) 768-8525 rcooklis@enquirer.com
Cincinnati Enquirer Byron McCauley Deputy Editorial Page Editor (513) 768-8473 bmccauley@enquirer.com
Citizen Tribune Melinda Brooks Editorial Page Editor (423) 581-5630
Citizens' Voice, The James Gittens Editorial Page Editor (570) 821-2068
Citizens' Voice, The Lisa Napersky Staff Writer (570) 821-2000 lnapersky@citizensvoice.com
Citrus County Chronicle Steve Arthur Editorial Page Editor (352) 563-6363 sarthur@chronicleonline.com
Clarion-Ledger, The David Hampton Editorial Page Editor (601) 961-7240 dhampton@clarionledger.com
Columbia Daily Spectator, The Rachel Scarborough King Editorial Page Editor (212) 854-9611 opinion@columbiaspectator.com
Columbus Dispatch, The Glenn Sheller Editorial Page Editor (614) 461-5000 gsheller@dispatch.com
Connecticut Post Steve Winters Editorial Page Editor (203) 330-6203 swinters@ctpost.com
Contra Costa Times Dan Hatfield Editorial Page Editor (925) 977-8430 dhatfield@cctimes.com
Cortland Standard Skip Chapman Editorial Page Editor (607) 756-5665 news@cortlandstandard.net
Courier-News Keith Ryzewicz Editorial Page Editor (908) 707-3128
Courier-Post Barry Lank Editorial Page Editor (856) 486-2417 blank@courierpostonline.com
Cumberland Times-News Richard Kerns Editorial Page Editor (301) 784-2526 rkerns@times-news.com
Daily Breeze Mike Carroll Editorial Page Editor (310) 540-5511 mike.carroll@dailybreeze.com
Daily Camera, The Steve Millard Editorial Page Editor (303) 473-1365 millards@dailycamera.com
Daily Democrat Jim Smith Managing Editor (530) 406-6230 ddnews@dailydemocrat.com
Daily Herald David Beery Editorial Page Editor (847) 427-4541 dbeery@dailyherald.com
Daily Herald, The Bob Bolerjack Editorial Page Editor (425) 339-3474 bolerjack@heraldnet.com
Daily Herald, The Don Meyers Editorial Page Editor (801) 344-2544 dmeyer@heraldextra.com
Daily Independent, The John Cannon Editorial Page Editor (606) 326-2649 jcannon@dailyindependent.com
Daily Journal, The John Garrahan Editorial Page Editor (856) 563-5248 djopinion@thedailyjournal.com
Daily Local News Martin Indars Editorial Page Editor (610) 430-1129 dlnnews@aol.com
Daily Mail, The Bob Maginnis Editorial Page Editor (301) 733-5131 bobm@herald-mail.com
Daily Midway Driller Jeremy Luchau Editorial Page Editor (661) 763-3171 driller@lightspeed.net
Daily News Jim Bross Editorial Page Editor (360) 577-2519 jbross@tdn.com
Daily News Steve Gaines Associated Editorial Page Editor (270) 783-3269
Daily Press Steve Williams Editorial Page Editor (760) 951-6278 smv@link.freedom.com
Daily Press, The Jesse Todd Editorial Page Editor (757) 247-6448 jtodd@dailypress.com
Daily Progress, The Anita Shelburne Editorial Page Editor (434) 978-7269 ashelburne@dailyprogress.com
Daily Record, The Bart Adams Publisher/Editorial Page Editor (910) 891-1234 badams@dunndailyrecord.com
Daily Record, The Fred Snowflack Editorial Page Editor (973) 428-6617 fsnowfla@gannett.com
Daily Reflector, The Brian Colligan Editorial Page Editor (252) 329-9507 bcolligan@coxnews.com
Daily Sentinel, The Bob Silbernagel Editorial Page Editor (970) 242-5050 bsilbernagel@gjds.com
Daily Times, The Mark Lewis Editorial Page Editor (505) 325-4545 markl@daily-times.com
Daily World, The John Hughes Editorial Page Editor ext. 112 jhughes@thedailyworld.com
Dallas Morning News, The Sharon Grigsby Deputy Editorial Page Editor (214) 977-7693 sgrigsby@dallasnews.com
Dallas Morning News, The Keven Ann Willey Editorial Page Editor (214) 977-8253 kwilley@dallasnews.com
Dayton Daily News Ellen Belcher Editorial Page Editor (937) 225-2286 ebelcher@daytondailynews.com
Democrat and Chronicle Jim Lawrence Editorial Page Editor (585) 258-2250 dceditpage@democratandchronicle.com
Denton Record-Chronicle Lisa McLendon Editorial Page Editor (940) 381-9622 lmclendon@dentonrc.com
Denver Post, The Bob Ewegen Op Ed Page Editor (303) 820-1221 bewegen@denverpost.com
Deseret Morning News Jay Douglas Evensen Editorial Page Editor (801) 237-2185 even@desnews.com
Desert Dispatch John Bennett Editorial Page Editor/City Editor (760) 256-4127 john_bennett@link.freedom.com
Desert Sun, The Cindy Uken Editorial Page Editor (760) 322-8889 cuken@palmspri.gannett.com
Desert Sun, The Cindy Yuken Editorial Page Editor (760) 778-4617
Detroit News Nolan Finley Editorial Page Editor (313) 222-6400 nfinley@detnews.com
Detroit News Jeff Hadden Deputy Editorial Page Editor (313) 222-6400 jhadden@detnews.com
Dominion Post, The Randy Vealey Editorial Page Editor (304) 291-9433 rvealey@dominionpost.com
Dothan Eagle Bill Perkins Editorial Page Editor (334) 712-7901 bperkins@dothaneagle.com
Draugas Danute Bindokas Editorial Page Editor (773) 585-9500
Eagle-Tribune, The Ken Johnson Editorial Page Editor (978) 946-2000 kjohnson@eagletribune.com
East Valley Tribune Bob Schuster Editorial Page Editor (480) 898-6507 bschuster@aztrib.com
El Paso Times Mary Benanti Editorial Page Editor (915) 546-6121 mbenanti@elpasotimes.com
Erie Times-News Bryan Oberle Editorial Page Editor (814) 870-1726 bryan.oberle@timesnews.com
Evening Sun, The Wanda Murren Editorial Page Editor (717) 637-3736x141 news@eveningsun.com
Evening Times, The Larry Neely Editorial Page Editor (315) 823-3680 lfetimes@ntcnet.com
Examiner, The David Mastio Editorial Page Editor (703) 846-8320 dmastio@dcexaminer.com
Fayetteville Observer, The Tim White Editorial Page Editor (910) 486-3504 whitet@fayettevillenc.com
Flint Journal, The Mike Riha Editorial Page Editor (810) 766-6189 mriha@flintjournal.com
Florida Times-Union Mike Clark Editorial Page Editor (904) 359-4307 mike.clark@jacksonville.com
Florida Today John Glisch Editorial Page Editor (321) 242-3968 jglisch@flatoday.net
Forum Jack Zaleski Editorial Page Editor (701) 241-5495
Forum, The Jack Zaleski Editorial Page Editor (701) 241-5521 jzaleski@forumcomm.com
Foster's Daily Democrat Jon Breen Editorial Page Editor (603) 742-4455
Free Lance-Star, The Paul Akers Editorial Page Editor (540) 374-5531 pakers@freelancestar.com
Fresno Bee Jim Boren Editorial Page Editor (559) 441-6307 jboren@fresnobee.com
Fresno Bee Russ Minick Deputy Editorial Page Editor (559) 441-6343 rminick@fresnobee.com
Gainesville Sun, The Ron Cunningham Editorial Page Editor (352) 374-5075 cunninr@gvillesun.com
Gaston Gazette Barry Bridges Editorial Page Editor (704) 869-1813 barry_bridges@link.freedom.com
Glasgow Daily Times Joel Wilson Editorial Page Editor (270) 678-5171
Great Falls Tribune Gary Moseman Editorial Page Editor (406) 791-1444 gmoseman@greatfal.gannett.com
Greenville News, The Beth Padgett Editorial Page Editor (864) 298-4321 bpadgett@greenvillenews.com
Hartford Courant, The Robert Schrepf Deputy Editorial Page Editor (860) 241-6488 bschrepf@courant.com
Hattiesburg American Rich Campbell Editorial Page Editor (601) 584-3128 rcampbell@hattiesb.gannett.com
Herald & Review Richard Icen Editorial Page Editor (217) 421-6968 dicen@herald-review.com
Herald and News Patrick Bushey Editorial Page Editor (541) 885-4479x479 pbushey@heraldandnews.com
Herald Mail, The Bob Maginnis Editorial Page Editor (301) 791-7622 bobm@herald-mail.com
Herald, The James Werrell Editorial Page Editor (803) 329-4081 jwerrell@heraldonline.com
Herald-Palladium Dale Brewer Editorial Page Editor ext. 211 dbrewer@heraldpalladium.com
Herald-Standard Luanne Traud Editorial Page Editor (724) 439-7635 ltraud@heraldstandard.com
Honolulu Advertiser, The Jerry Burris Editorial Page Editor (808) 525-8095 jburris@honoluluadvertiser.com
Honolulu Star-Bulletin Mary Poole Editorial Page Editor (808) 529-4748 mpoole@starbulletin.com
Houston Chronicle Frank Michel Associate Editor - Editorial Page (713) 362-7077 frank.michel@chron.com
Huntsville Times, The John Ehinger Editorial Page Editor (256) 532-4218 johne@htimes.com
Huntsville Times, The David Prather Editorial Page Associate Editor (256) 532-4357 prather@htimes.com
Idaho Press-Tribune Vickie Holbrook Managing Editor (208) 465-8110 vholbrook@idahopress.com
Idaho Statesman, The David Staats Editorial Page Editor (208) 377-6432 dstaats@idahostatesman.com
Imperial Valley Press Bret Kofford Editorial Page Editor (760) 337-3425
Independence Examiner Jeff Fox Editorial Page Editor (816) 350-6313 jeff.fox@examiner.net
Independent George Ayoub Editorial Page Editor (308) 381-5423 george.ayoub@theindependent.com
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin Kevin Chaffee Op Ed Page Editor/Editorial Page Editor (909) 987-6397x214 k_chaffee@dailybulletin.com
Intelligencer Journal Earle Cornelius Editorial Page Editor (717) 291-8738 ecornelius@lnpnews.com
Intelligencer, The Mike Myer Editorial Page Editor ext. 305 myer@news-register.net
Jackson Sun Tom Bohs Editorial Page Editor (731) 425-9686 tbohs@jacksonsun.com
Janesville Gazette, The Greg Peck Editorial Page Editor ext. 278 gpeck@gazetteextra.com
Jefferson City News-Tribune Richard McGonegal Managing Editor (573) 636-3131 nt@newstribune.com
Jersey Journal, The Agustin Torres Editorial Page Editor (201) 217-2511 agustin.torres@jjournal.com
Journal Gazette Tracy Warner Editorial Page Editor (260) 461-8113 twarner@jg.net
Journal Inquirer Keith Burris Editorial Page Editor (860) 646-0500 letters@journalinquirer.com
Journal News, The Ron Patafio Editorial Page Editor (914) 694-5031
Journal Review Tina McGrady Editor (765) 362-1200 tina@jrpress.com
Journal Star Barb Drake Editorial Page Editor (309) 686-3133 bdrake@pjstar.com
Journal Star Barb Mantz Drake Editorial Page Editor (309) 686-3133 bdrake@pjstar.com
Kalamazoo Gazette Charlotte Channing Editorial Page Editor (269) 388-8547 cchanning@kalamazoogazette.com
Kansas City Star, The Miriam Pepper Editorial Page Editor (816) 234-4421 pepper@kcstar.com
Kansas City Star, The Laura Scott Editorial Page Assistant Editor (816) 234-4452 lascott@kcstar.com
Kansas City Star, The Stephen Winn Editorial Page Deputy Editor (816) 234-4477 winn@kcstar.com
King County Journal Craig Groshart Editorial Page Editor (425) 455-2222 craig.groshart@kingcountyjournal.com
Knoxville News-Sentinel, The Jan Avent Assistant Editorial Page Editor (865) 342-6251 avent@knews.com
Knoxville News-Sentinel, The Hoyt Canady Editorial Page Editor (865) 523-3131
La Crosse Tribune Richard Mial Editorial Page Editor (608) 791-8232 rmial@lacrossetribune.com
La Opinion Henrik Rehbinder Editorial Page Editor (213) 622-8332 henrik.rehbinder@laopinion.com
Lancaster New Era Jack Brubaker Editorial Page Editor (717) 291-8781 jbrubaker@lnpnews.com
Lancaster New Era Jim Burchik Editorial Page Editor (717) 291-8733 jburchik@lnpnews.com
Lansing State Journal, The Derek Melot Assistant Editorial Editor (517) 377-1256 dmelot@lansing.gannett.com
Lansing State Journal, The Mark Nixon Editorial Page Editor (517) 377-1038 mnixon@lsj.com
Las Vegas Review-Journal John Kerr Editorial Page Editor (702) 383-0273 JKerr@reviewjournal.com
Las Vegas Sun Michael Campbell Editorial Page Editor (702) 385-3111 mike@lasvegassun.com
Lawrence Journal-World Ann Gardner Editorial Page Editor (785) 832-7153 agardner@ljworld.com
Leaf-Chronicle, The Alane Megna Editorial Page Editor (931) 245-0248 alanemegna@theleafchronicle.com
Lebanon Daily News, The Rahn Forney Editorial Page Editor ext. 143 RahnForney@LDNews.com
Ledger, The Glenn Marston Assistant Editorial Page Editor (863) 802-7601 glenn.marston@theledger.com
Ledger, The Dave Schultz Editorial Page Editor (863) 802-7600 dave.schultz@theledger.com
Lewiston Morning Tribune Jim Fisher Editorial Writer ext. 272 jfisher@lmtribune.com
Lewiston Morning Tribune Bill Hall Editorial Page Editor (208) 743-9411 billhall@lmtribune.com
Lexington Herald-Leader Vanessa Gallman Editorial Page Editor (859) 231-1393 vgallman@herald-leader.com
Lima News Thomas J. Lucente Editorial Page Editor (419) 223-1010 tlucente@limanews.com
Log Cabin Democrat Dean Wheeler Editorial Page Editor (501) 505-1246 dwheeler@thecabin.net
Lompoc Record Russ Stockton Editorial Page Editor (805) 736-2313x142 rstockton@pulitzer.net
Longmont Daily Times-Call Bill Ray Editorial Page Editor ext. 221 bray@times-call.com
Los Angeles Daily News Chris Weinkopf Editorial Page Editor (818) 713-3000 chris.weinkopf@dailynews.com
Los Angeles Times Janet Clayton Editorial Page Editor (213) 237-7931 janet.clayton@latimes.com
Los Angeles Times Andres Martinez Editorial Page Editor (213) 237-5000 andres.martinez@latimes.com
Lowell Sun Sharon Flaherty Editorial Page Editor (978) 458-7100 sflaherty@lowellsun.com
Macomb Daily Mitch Kehetian Editorial Page Editor (586) 469-4510
Madera Tribune Charles Doud Editor/Publisher (559) 674-8134 cdoud@maderatribune.net
Manassas Journal Messenger Alfred Biddlecomb Editorial Page Editor (703) 878-8062 abiddlecomb@potomacnews.com
Manhattan Mercury Walt Braun Editorial Page Editor (785) 776-2200 circulation@themercury.com
Mansfield News-Journal Tom Brennan Editorial Page Editor (419) 521-7340 tbrennan@nncogannett.com
Marin Independent Journal Brad Breithaupt Editorial Page Editor (415) 382-7291 bbreithaupt@marinij.com
Mercury, The Nancy March Editorial Page Editor ext. 470 nmarch@pottsmerc.com
Meriden Record-Journal Allan Church Editorial Page Editor (203) 317-2250 achurch@record-journal.com
Metro Mark Moore Editor-in-Chief (215) 717-2630 mmoore@metro-philly.com
MetroWest Daily News, The Richard Holmes Editorial Page Editor (508) 872-4321 rholmes@cnc.com
Miami Herald, The Joe Oglesby Editorial Page Editor (305) 376-3505 joglesby@herald.com
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Ernst-Ulrich Franzen Deputy Editorial Page Editor (414) 224-2000 efransen@journalsentinel.com
Mining Journal Barbara Bannister Editorial Page Editor 1(906) 228-2500x246
Missoulian, The Steve Woodruff Editorial Page Editor (406) 523-5241 steve.woodruff@missoulian.com
Mobile Register Frances Coleman Editorial Page Editor (251) 434-8607 fcoleman@mobileregister.com
Monitor, The Mack Harrison Editorial Page Editor (956) 982-6681 mharriso@themonitor.com
Monroe Times Judie Hintzman Editorial Page Editor ext. 36 editor@themonroetimes.com
Montgomery Advertiser Jim Earnhardt Associate Editorial Page Editor (334) 261-1525 jearnhardt@gannett.com
Montgomery Advertiser Ken Hare Editorial Page Editor (334) 261-1524 khare1@gannett.com
Morning Call, The Glenn Kranzley Editorial Page Editor (610) 770-3717 glenn.kranzley@mcall.com
Morning Journal Thomas Skoch Editorial Page Editor x536 letters@morningjournal.com
Morning Sentinel Anthony Cristan Editorial Page Editor (207) 873-3341 acristan@centralmaine.com
Mount Airy News, The Steve Welker Editorial Page Editor (336) 719-1925 swelker@mtairynews.com
Muskogee Daily Phoenix & Times-Democrat Joe Patrick Bean Editorial Page Editor (918) 684-2900
Napa Valley Register Bill Kisliuk Managing Editor (707) 256-2246 bkisliuk@napanews.com
Naples Daily News Chuck Curry Assistant Editorial Page Editor (239) 262-4830 cecurry@naplesnews.com
Naples Daily News Jeffrey Lytle Editorial Page Editor (239) 263-4773 jflytle@naplesnews.com
New Castle News Mitchel Olszak Editorial Page Editor (724) 654-6651x628
New Haven Register Charles Kochakian Editorial Page Editor (203) 789-5635 ckochakian@nhregister.com
New Jersey Herald, The Bob Price Editorial Page Editor (973) 383-1500x261 bprice@njherald.com
New York Daily News Angela King Editorial Page Editor (212) 210-6325 aking@edit.nydailynews.com
New York Post Bob McManus Editorial Page Editor (212) 930-8536 bmcmanus@nypost.com
New York Times, The Phil Boffey Deputy Editorial Page Editor (212) 556-1234 phboff@nytimes.com
New York Times, The Gail Collins Editorial Page Editor (212) 556-7832 gailc@nytimes.com
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New York Times, The Maureen Muenster News Assistant City Section (212) 556-1234 mamuen@nytimes.com
New York Times, The Andrew Rosenthal Deputy Editorial Page Editor (212) 556-7415 andyr@nytimes.com
News & Observer Steve Ford Editorial Page Editor (919) 829-4512 sford@newsobserver.com
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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poetx
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56. "fantastic. thank you so much for this. if you can do the script in MS wo..."
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(assuming you can't do it in perl or php?), that would at least be helpful for the first folks. but i want, ultimately, THOUSANDS of e-mails flooding these people).



peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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KosherSam
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59. "ideally, if you wrote a letter in word, and had this excel sheet"
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(i could email you the file) you could send both files to any okp who wanted to participate and they could do a mail merge. you need to be using outlook for it to work though...

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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poetx
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91. "damn. i don't use outlook. it shouldn't be too hard to setup, though,"
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right?

pls go ahead and e me the files (and directions, lol). poetx99@yahoo.com

thanks for this list. i'm gonna start hitting them manually.


peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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KosherSam
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99. "sent. along with instructions. if you need anything else, hit my inbox"
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i post at work, but dont check my personal email.

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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akon
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100. "email me too, i got outlook at work...."
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>right?
>
>pls go ahead and e me the files (and directions, lol).
>poetx99@yahoo.com
>
>thanks for this list. i'm gonna start hitting them manually.
>
>
>peace & blessings,
>
>x.
>
>sigless for the summer, y'all.

.
http://perspectivesudans.blogspot.com/
i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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113. "That's wsup right there! tight. n/m"
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Avi? Roswell High Football. It's that time of year. 'Neath the Dixie sky, biatches...

http://www.roswellfootball.org/

  

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122. "Media Atlas is my new favorite toy"
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you can find damn near anyone on there...

*Jews you*

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159. "that's what's up"
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I been going back and forth between this post and my email for the past hour.

______________________________________

amazin they ungrateful after all The Game I gave away

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175. "inbox me your email address, i can just send the excel sheet"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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205. "RE: **THE EDITORIAL PAGE EDITORS CONTACT LIST (412 names)**"
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Dang, that's 367 email addresses. I was going to make a little link where you could click and have it email all of them at once but I think browsers only support mailing like 20 people at a time. Someone with webspace and Perl/PHP skills could whip something together though.
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-Me

  

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58. "OH MY FUCKING GOD"
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is anyone watching this dateline shit?
there was a woman who punched a hole in her roof and she and her two kids were airlifted out. she was waiting to get on a bus and handed someone her child. as she was getting on the bus to board they pushed her away and she fell on the ground and they took her child away.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO SOME SHIT LIKE THAT??!?!/

luckly for her the news reporter was there and told a cop, who told a state trooper. this state trooper took her in his own car and drove her all the way to houston. she still has to try and find her 2 yr old child out of the thousands.

i am so pissed right now

  

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enotswhat
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62. "wait a minute"
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>is anyone watching this dateline shit?
>there was a woman who punched a hole in her roof and she and
>her two kids were airlifted out. she was waiting to get on a
>bus and handed someone her child. as she was getting on the
>bus to board they pushed her away and she fell on the ground
>and they took her child away.

so someone on the bus kidnapped her baby?

****sig****

  

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66. "no"
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she handed her child to someone as she tried to get on the bus
her kid was only 2 and couldnt walk
when she tried to get on the bus, they pushed her down and the police told her she couldnt get on and wouldnt help her even when she told them her child was on the bus

  

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68. "So basically they took her child....."
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I'm emotionally drained from all of this......



I'm a believer, tellin' you I really believe
I'm a believer, even though I've never seen
I'm a believer, look at my life and you will see
I'm a believer, how can you not believe?
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81. "it's so fucked up"
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65. "wow. i'm glad i checked the boards before i went to bed...."
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this is definitely what's up.

you know you gotta post the finished product as soon as you can right?

i wish i had information to offer, but my brain is fried from working on this paper.

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71. "Welcome To The Terrordome (first couple of 'graphs, work in progress)"
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Welcome To The Terrordome:
Race, Class, Misplaced Priorities and Optional Tragedy.

I am, saddened, appalled, outraged and disgusted at my government’s gross negligence, monstrous mismanagement and callous indifference to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. I am, at this moment, ashamed to be an American. And let me say pre-emptively, that if anyone replies “well get out then” I will punch you dead in your face. Yes. It’s that real.

My initial response, like those of most of us following some human tragedy, was one of shock, pity, empathy. From whence, then, comes this wave of anger, this storm surge of emotion seething within me that threatens to overcome my better nature? It comes with the realization that, despite the capricious and uncontrollable nature of the hurricane, the vast majority of the tableau of misery that plays out before us represents an Optional Tragedy. Examination of the facts that lie in the background, below the din of sensational news headings, reveals a truth irreconcilable with the lofty ideals that we export around the world at gunpoint: these people are dying mainly because they are poor, and black. Beyond that, though, and not contradictorily, these people are also dying because of the historic ineptitude and criminal indifference of a Bush administration, which has made the Federal Emergency Management Agency a slavish servant of their idiotic ideology.



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74. "up"
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n/m

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76. "you on the west coast or just crazy like me?"
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179. "It was writer's restlessness, I guess."
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Something needs to be done.

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75. "completed article is here:"
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Welcome To The Terrordome:

Race, Class, Misplaced Priorities and Optional Tragedy.

I am, saddened, appalled, outraged and disgusted at my government’s gross negligence, monstrous mismanagement and callous indifference toward the victims of Hurricane Katrina. I am, at this moment, ashamed to be an American. And let me say, preemptively, that if anyone replies “well get out then” I will punch you dead in your face. Yes. It’s that real.

My initial response, like those of most of us who follow human tragedy, was one of shock, pity, empathy. From whence, then, comes this wave of anger, this storm surge of emotion seething within me that threatens to overcome my better nature? It comes with the realization that, despite the capricious and uncontrollable nature of the hurricane, the vast majority of the tableau of misery that plays out before us represents an Optional Tragedy. Examination of the facts that lie in the background, below the din of sensational news headings, reveals a truth irreconcilable with the lofty ideals that we export around the world at gunpoint: these people are dying mainly because they are poor, and black. Beyond that, though, and not contradictorily, these people are also dying because of the historic ineptitude and criminal indifference of a Bush administration that has made the Federal Emergency Management Agency a slavish servant of their idiotic ideology.

Optional? Yeah. In the earliest days of the news coverage, reporters and talking heads parroted lines about people who decided to ‘ride it out’, as if the majority of the people in the path of Hurricane Katrina truly had a say in the decision. The 2000 census listed New Orleans’ population at 485,000, with 27% below the ridiculously low federal poverty level. That works out to about 135,000 people, not counting others who may have slipped below the line during our past five years of prosperity. The median income in New Orleans is $27,000, so half of those 485,000 people made less than that. And that says nothing of the surrounding areas of Louisiana, or of those living in Mobile, Alabama, Biloxi, Mississippi, or in places so remote that they are not even on the national radar.

How many people in households making $27,000 a year can afford to just up and take a few hundred-miles trip on a couple of days’ notice? Unlike a handful of adventurers and some hardheaded veterans of hurricanes past, these people were not trying to ‘ride it out’, they had no <I>ride<P> out. Assuming, they did have a car, in reliable, working condition, could they afford a tank of gas, at over $2.50 per gallon? A hotel stay? Don’t kid yourself. They didn’t choose to stay, they were Left Behind, like those forsaken by God in the best-selling fictional biblical account of the ‘end times’. These souls were not Left Behind by God, though, they were left behind by their fellow man.

The only ‘option’ exercised was the option of the various city, state and federal emergency management agencies to NOT provide for their evacuation. There should have been convoys of buses and military transport vehicles BEFORE the hurricane, offering transport to safety for any and all citizens. And yet, on Tuesday I was hearing news anchors asking the dim, but by then-rhetorical questions of “Why didn’t they leave?”, leaving talking heads and studio experts to explain that economics played a major part, while giving no specifics, and allowing unsophisticated viewers to guess for themselves how many were dirt poor versus those who were hardheaded, and kinda ‘got what they deserved’.

What they SHOULD have been discussing was why nothing was done by the government to <I>provide<P> transportation for these people to get them out of harm’s way. Hmm... Save that for angry editorialists to hash out in long-assed columns. But I don’t really <I>expect<P> much depth from national news media these days, so that, while disappointing and maddening, it was not surprising. What was absolutely shocking, however, was to hear Michael Brown, Director of FEMA, on Thursday evening, following a live CNN broadcast from the convention center in New Orleans, speaking, repeatedly, in terms of people who “CHOSE” to stay. Even after the anchor, to his credit, corrected him and mentioned the poorest of the poor status of those Americans living in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi, Brown stubbornly or ignorantly continued to use the word “chose” to describe why the people were in the path of Katrina’s wrath.

More appalling, however, was that he, the top FEMA official, did not know until hearing CNN’s report in the background that there were thousands of people who had been stranded at the New Orleans Convention Center for three days without food or water. YOU CAN’T EVEN WATCH CNN?? That really inspires my faith in our government’s resolve.

The herding of people into the Superdome was an act of desperation, necessitated by the utter lack of a plan to evacuate people who had no transportation from the city. The president, dull-witted as ever, proclaimed on Thursday that, “I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees."

You don’t think? I’ll buy that. It didn’t cross your mind while playing golf, on yet another of your record number of vacations. And you must have MISSED the news I watched, which, following Katrina’s deadly romp through Florida, warned that a Category 5 hurricane would destroy New Orleans as we know it, by destroying the levee and canal system. The president could have also looked at disaster readiness reports from FEMA in 2001 (pre 9/11), which listed a category 5 hurricane in N.O. as one of the three likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing this country.

Can’t recall when you saw that report, Mr. Bush? It was after you appointed a political crony with <I>no<P> disaster management expertise (your former Texas chief of staff John Allbaugh) as director of FEMA. And before you downsized FEMA from a cabinet level department and made it part of the Department Of Homeland Security. And before you started your optional war in Iraq (which by the way, is where 35% of the disaster area’s National Guard troops are). It was also before you decided to privatize the agency, and contract out a lot of its function. And definitely before this June, when you slashed the New Orleans’ Army Corps Of Engineers budget by $71.4 million, including money designed to prevent floods and shore up the levees.

Bush’s administration in 2001 decried that FEMA could engender a ‘culture of entitlement’ (what’s all that ‘provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare’ stuff about, anyway?) among citizens. Under the savvy direction of Allbaugh, armed with no disaster training but good ol’ Texas business know-how, FEMA reckoned it could save $200 million from its budget by cutting so-called ‘mitigation’ strategies, grants used to essentially help prevent disasters, by moving people from flood plains, and making improvements to local infrastructure and emergency facilities. $200 million is paltry (I daresay, niggardly), compared to the billions of dollars of damage that hurricanes do to our increasingly built up coastlines. The old chief of the New Orleans Army Corps of Engineers quit over the continual slashing of his budget and the tying of his hands regarding flood preparedness. The current chief stated on national TV, <I>after<P> the levee breaks, that they were only built to withstand a category 3 hurricane, and that was ok, because it was an acceptable risk for the money they had to spend. If he were in corporate America he’d be soo fired. As it stands, he’ll probably be promoted.

I’ve learned all of this troubling information after the fact. It is infuriating enough. But to juxtapose this record of governmental malfeasance with the images and reports, first trickling, now pouring, from the Superdome? Putting them there was desperate and, by definition short term. I worried when they said folks needed to bring their own food. But with no running water (ie, no working bathrooms), and no electricity, let alone AC, or food, or drinking water, the place has become the Terrordome, a brooding, stinking cesspool of people cramped together in ignorance and uncertainty, and increasingly littered with corpses of victims of the colossal ineptitude of the public officials paid to protect and serve them. The conditions are not only worse than those of any prison in the US, if the inhabitants were rottweiler or pitbull puppies, the ‘owners’ would be arrested for cruelty. They are sitting and sleeping in their own feces because their government said “come here and we will help you”, and then never came back. Even slaves had water, and enough gruel to sustain the strongest through the Middle Passage.

We, who can project our military might all the way around the globe, could not get troops there right after the hurricane, and buses, and amphibious marine transports to get these people out? Had they done so, and not left some of those Left Behind to play out this sick, Lord Of The Flies type scenario (with Wal-Mart guns), perhaps some of these suffering people would not have been doubly and trebly victimized?

I see children on tv screaming “help us” and sad-faced news people zooming by in their vans, footage in the can. I see looped footage of looting, as if stealing t-shirts (or, stupidly, tv’s) somehow justifies the treatment of the miserable yet law-abiding masses of people waiting to die in the hot sun. People forced to push their dead grandmothers off into a corner, against a wall, so the stink of her body does not overpower those still hanging on. People who have climbed through roofs and slid through windows with jagged glass, untreated, or waded through waist high filth, to have guns drawn on them by cops threatening to shoot them for taking the only available food from stores that will never see another customer. And the many people who have waited for days for buses that did not come and who have literally dived off of the elevated highway ramps to their sacrificial death on the hard concrete below, on the altar of inhumanity, indifference, and misplaced priorities. Hard concrete. Like the hearts of those who say “we’re doing all we can” but who expect us to believe that a single gunshot warrants turning around a National Guard helicopter, thwarting these ‘heroes’ from rescuing old ladies and babies on hand-cranked life support, when their brethren face far more danger in Iraq, ducking bombs and bullets for no good reason.

“They <I>chose<P> to stay”. No. ‘We’ chose to leave them, and every death of a person who could have been evacuated, before, or right after the hurricane was <I>optional<P>. Governors have called this ‘our Tsunami’ as they fly safely over the carnage. No. That is not quite right. Death, in the Tsunami, was democratic. The super rich and abject poor alike were swept away with little to no forewarning. No. Here, in the world’s biggest self-promoting democracy, we had options, and, like so many of our policies and politicians on a daily basis, we opted not to give a damn about our poor. And so they died. And we wring our hands about gas prices. Every needlessly dead person’s body should be piled at the feet of the irresponsible officials. So they can ponder their options.


Derek M. Jennings

<I> You have the option to stand up for those who are not being heard. Write or call your congressperson, the White House, major news agencies and your friends. Inform them of what is really going on, how it looks to you, as a citizen, and how it looks to a world which is probably as saddened for our loss as they are to see that we have yet again spectacularly failed to live out our ideals and our professed faith. <P>

Make yourself heard:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
http://www.house.gov/writerep/

More Info:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com
http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2004-09-22/cover.html



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78. "good read!*edit* GREAT READ!"
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86. "GREAT read indeed"
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89. "spectacular"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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94. "only thing i'd say"
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is edit some of those 'I's out

is it a op ed?


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survival of the fit/only the strong survive

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98. "it's an op ed. (i posted here till about 1am strategizing and"
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collecting my thoughts and wrote through till 4:30a).

but it's an op ed, my monthly column, so i can write in the first person (or whatever person in which the x chooses, to steal a page from the doc).

peace & blessings,

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95. "how will we allow this administration to survive this?"
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blowjobs are impeachable offenses but deadly/catastrophic/routine imcompetence is acceptable?

not that i believe that anything will happen but....what excuse/distraction will they conjure up when we can't bear to watch anymore and focus their anger towards the "executives'n chiefs" ?


  

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127. "well done!"
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you summed up everything I've been feeling over these past few days

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180. "i felt every bit of that! great writing."
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**ima show u how to get ya shine on**

give me dat million dolla beat and let me show you what to do wit it/ who dat is?/ that's the illest rapper chopped and screwin' it/ couldn't snatch the game is what they told me so i'm provin' it (c) cham

  

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199. "bravo"
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223. "Dope article, good shit....*daps*"
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"You post like you look your barber in the eyes when he lines you up."

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224. "thank you. (and everyone else). e-mail it to some ppl! nm"
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peace & blessings,

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229. "This paragraph in particular was MOST hard hitting .."
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>>>I see children on tv screaming “help us” and sad-faced news people zooming by in their vans, footage in the can. I see looped footage of looting, as if stealing t-shirts (or, stupidly, tv’s) somehow justifies the treatment of the miserable yet law-abiding masses of people waiting to die in the hot sun. People forced to push their dead grandmothers off into a corner, against a wall, so the stink of her body does not overpower those still hanging on. People who have climbed through roofs and slid through windows with jagged glass, untreated, or waded through waist high filth, to have guns drawn on them by cops threatening to shoot them for taking the only available food from stores that will never see another customer. And the many people who have waited for days for buses that did not come and who have literally dived off of the elevated highway ramps to their sacrificial death on the hard concrete below, on the altar of inhumanity, indifference, and misplaced priorities. Hard concrete. Like the hearts of those who say “we’re doing all we can” but who expect us to believe that a single gunshot warrants turning around a National Guard helicopter, thwarting these ‘heroes’ from rescuing old ladies and babies on hand-cranked life support, when their brethren face far more danger in Iraq, ducking bombs and bullets for no good reason. <<<

  

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235. "thanks. i was tryna fall back from the facts and just deal w/ the human"
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implications of it all. i still can't imagine being in those peoples shoes, and having to make the decisions they had to make.

we've been through some bad hurricanes in NC (hurricane fran was the worst for my area, although floyd tore up the more eastern parts and hit them w/ the big flooding). we've gone, through hurricanes and ice storms, up to two weeks at a time. and there have been times when the governmental response has seemed a bit slow, or that it could have stood some improvement. but NEVER this sense of total abandonment and forsakeness these people must have felt. it's inexcusable, and enraging.


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232. "you're a good man, yo."
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257. "there WILL be hell to pay if this doesn't go to print."
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261. "nah, it ran yesterday. slight editing (took out the part where i said"
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i'd punch somebody dead in they face, LMAO), but it was for space. i wanted to stop at 1400 wds and couldn't, so it was a whopping 1900 when i sub'd it last week on friday morning, and i wasn't scheduled to write anyway, so it had to be shoehorned in.

i'm happy w/ how it turned out.


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77. "Regardless, WRITE"
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79. "I Have A Distribution List"
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Make sure you send me a copy of anything you send out.

I'll inbox my email address..

  

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82. "RE: I Have A Distribution List"
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Word, the people definitely need to mobilize on those in power and convince them that the real issues--our issues, people issues--deserve as much attention as anything else, and if you ask me, much of what's goin on in the South right now is very much tied to what went down in the South from the beginning...

Start with Slavery

This post is about much more than the "looting" of goods in the streets of New Orleans, or the crimes therein, or the desperation of people stranded for days without resources necessary for subsistence, or the absurdity of an American city being inundated by problems that predate public policy and strategic political inaction. No, this goes beyond and before all of that—and it starts with slavery.

Slavery in the Americas began with the brutality wrought onto its Native inhabitants. Columbus sailed in search of gold and other riches (not the thirst for discovery and human enlightenment), and was a murderer that used religion and imperialism to justify the rampant enslavement and massacre of myriad Caribbean “Indians”—eponymously termed because he thought he had reached India (for the record, there is substantial evidence that the Americas had already been explored by other cultures long before 1492, but that is an entirely different conversation). The vast majority of these individuals, both in the Caribbean and subsequently the mainland, were eventually wiped out—massacred, murderered, genocidized, etc—by the combined effects of slave labor, warfare, and foreign diseases at the hands of white settlers and European capitalists. This entire continent was “looted” by white societies—for profit—from its original inhabitants, and Native Americans continue to enjoy the lowest positions in almost every social index and indicator (and are unfortunately ignored in the overall national scheme of things).

Simultaneously, slavery of Africans was becoming increasingly profitable—wildly so—for slave traders and some European nations (the Dutch, Spanish, British especially), and the great need for free labor in the Americas in conjunction with dwindling populations of resistant, dying, or innumerous Native Americans paved the way for another kind of “looting” (again by white societies)—that brutal and “peculiar institution”. Yes, slavery was not new and certainly not solely of the white-on-nonwhite persuasion, but the systematized, demonic nature of the Transatlantic slave trade was utterly unprecedented in breadth and scope (please, no “Africans did it to their own people” and “white people had white indentured servitude” stuff here…we all know Black slavery was different).

U.S. history books do a rather poor job of informing us of these sorts of points of views, and an even more deplorable job of presenting the rest of U.S. history as pertains to race and racism, which is why so many educated, well-meaning, and I would say white and Black people have a difficult time seeing the clear links between what happened 500 years ago and what’s going on now in New Orleans. It would be an understatement to say that the effects of slavery are still being felt by those residents of New Orleans specifically, and by Black people and people of color in general. You need only read up on the failures of the Reconstruction, the fever pitch of overt racism and racial intolerance that lasted until the Civil Rights Act of 1965 (when covert, systematized racism took over); the travesty of sharecropping, the U.S. white terrorism/lynchings of thousands of African Americans and (hundreds of) whites, the Jim Crow laws, the (failure of) Brown vs. Board of Education, the limited benefits of Affirmative Action programs (of which white women have been the greatest benefactors); indeed, the general limitations of the post-slavery and Civil Rights movements as a whole. After slavery as a practice ended, the very vestiges of the racism that fueled it were allowed to endure in the collective U.S. mindset and power structure. Sure, a very small percentage of black people obtained some land, some schools, some education, some “power”—but only negligibly so, and the promises and opportunities to integrate the slaves quickly fell apart as legislation after legislation was compromised or overturned. So you gotta think, millions of African American slaves (most of the Black people of the time) began POOR—no land to start on, no money to build homes, no businesses, no reading + writing skills, no education (that tool that allows us to, when combined with literacy, navigate the power structure), no voting rights, and thus absolutely no political power whatsoever—and what’s scary is that many of these conditions STILL apply to many poor Black people today (and other people of color in the States + the world). And back then, they probably weren’t getting hit with hurricanes pumped with global warming hormones. Before anyone starts pointing “ooh, he’s so racist—he’s assuming those New Orleans black people can’t read and write and ain’t got no money”…stop. Most of those people are there because they didn’t have the resources to get out in time, didn’t have access to resources that fully communicated the impending gravity of the situation, and/or had so much to lose that they would rather try to ride it out to keep the fabric of their livelihood intact. They’re poor.

And in terms of literacy, as a teacher, I can say that the literacy gap (reading and writing) disproportionately affects African-Americans because our public school system is in such a state of racial inequality. African-Americans and Latinos have only a 50% high school graduation rate. In New York, only 1 out of 10 African-American or Latino students is graduating high school with a Regents diploma (what the state considers the minimum required to go on to college). And no, these kids aren’t dropping out of high school and refusing to obtain diplomas at a 90% rate because they want a life of disempowerment, abject poverty, crime, etc, any more than affluent (white) kids are staying in school and going on to college for opposite reasons—it all boils down to inequitable access to opportunity and resources along racial lines, all of which, again, is related to that “peculiar” historical legacy of slavery and racism in the U.S. The reality is a function of a society aborted by rampant inequality. The poor are disproportionately people of color (and even when you don’t include other groups of color…African-American). They are also the ones least likely to have the literacy skills to navigate the power structure (and even with the literacy skills—there is incredible systematic discrimination in full force in the U.S.). They are the ones that have the least political power (few senators/congresspeople of color), the ones that politicians most ignore in policy- and decision-making (e.g., gentrification; the siphoning away of money for levee renovation projects—to yet another ethnocentric, manipulative war—amidst the research and predictions of this very scenario), the ones that get stuck with more defunct voting booths and pricier supermarkets and unhealthier food choices and shittier public schools and greater arrest and incarceration rates and greater unemployment and lack of health insurance and greater mortgage/loan lending discrimination (even with the same credit scores and histories) and greater marginalization and pidgeon-holing into blind consumerism and tracking into lower-paying jobs and lower positive representation in the media and news coverage. Yes, poor, Black people get all of this on top of the collective memories of the slavery and lynchings. The cherry on top? They get demonized for “looting” stores for merchandise in an inundated Blacklantis that has been without any major assistance or nutrition and who the hell knows what else for four days in the—call me arrogant—richest nation in the history of the planet.

Let’s remember that moral appraisal and judgment conveniently change depending on the circumstances—the massacre of the Jews in the Holocaust gets vilified much more than that of the Native Americans or African slaves or Africans today (Sudan, Rwanda, the Congo, etc.). A SWAT team stealing Timbs from a store in New Orleans (happened) gets portrayed differently than (small percentages of) black citizens do—and really, I don’t see this much public outrage when American soldiers take spoils of war. A person caught with 500 grams of powder cocaine gets the same sentence as someone that possesses 5 grams of crack (and not actually, since white cocaine users, which are more likely to use the more expensive powder version, are more likely to have access to a lawyer and other accoutrements of a just penal system, are less likely to be convicted, and are much less likely to be arrested and taken in to begin with—and this is just a racial discrepancy dealing with the justice system alone). White collar crime doesn’t get demonized the same way that street crimes do. The list could go on, and it started with slavery.


My overall point is to provide a greater social and historical context for the behavior dynamics of a *select* and *relatively minor* group of poor Black folks in New Orleans. Murder, rape, and violence is to be abhorred at all times (which society selectively fails to do), but all of these “deviations from societal norms” called crimes are, in my sociological view, a byproduct of unmet needs in our society. You know, if a teacher has an excellent lesson plan that is engaging, he eliminates at least half the potential classroom management problems. If a society provides truly equal opportunities, like access to quality education, jobs, and health coverage to all its citizens (the minimum rights of all people), then a great deal of social diseases in the form of crime would never even crop up. People wouldn’t be stealing DVD players amidst a chaotic storm’s aftermath, and people wouldn’t be shooting each other for survival or opportunism. The onus is on society to make shit work equally for everybody, not just groups already in power. When the legacy of slavery and racism in this nation is resolved—and how easy it might be, if even just the education system and the economy were as accessible to black people as to whites!—we’ll see much less crime and lawlessness, because at that time people’s needs being met will give way for the discussion of greater philosophical issues such as self-restraint and lawfulness in times of emergency and despair—which, by the way, we are able to partake in precisely because we have our immediate physiological needs met. My people in New Orleans don’t have that same luxury. They never have, and after this disaster, they probably never will.

And damn, black people haven’t gotten this much news coverage since the 60’s…in fact, it’s like the only way we get as much news coverage as a missing white person is if we loot a store and start acting up in the inner city…

Our babies are dying from dehydration and racism.

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84. "Our babies are dying from dehydration and racism."
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145. "thank you for this!!! sorry it took so late to read. but you hit it."
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thanks.


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87. "post 55... whatever letters you get, distribute the f*** out of it"
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*Jews you*

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88. "sun, this yt lady at the gig *just* told me"
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that she only feels sorry for the babies and the animals because the adults can fend much better for themselves. the babies and the animals? like the animals don't have natural survival instincts. so like, the (black) adults aren't worthy of her sympathy. at least not as much as the animals.

she also *just* told me that she understands the looting for food, but for flat screen tvs and such...


maaaan. i wish she would have just said she hates darkies or some shit. *these* people have no concept of what the people of NO lived through on the daily yet they can sit in judgement. man i'm wit chu. i just wanna burn this whole shit down, and lock her in it while it burns. i'll get at chu later; i need to walk or some shit.

  

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93. "like i said. i'm glad i work at home so i ain't had to talk to any of th..."
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people. but i'm feeling it just the same. channel that anger. we have to make something out of this.


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90. "and another thing..."
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(i already spoke to you about this but for everyone else reading)

Congress can move and have an emergency session for Terry Schiavo's ass, but on convening to define and prepare assistance to THOUSANDS of people in NO, they can do it? They may be coming back early? Bush cut his vacation just two days short rather than before the hurricane hit? GTFOHWTBS!!! Seriously.

Time and time again, we are told that OUR lives mean much much less than others in this country.

  

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96. "get @ harry connick jr"
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116. "harry connick jr is already on the case:"
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4203540.stm

Music stars join Katrina benefits
Jazz pianist Harry Connick Jr and country music star Tim McGraw will headline a US charity concert for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

The hour-long concert will be broadcast live on Friday, with actor Leonardo DiCaprio also expected to appear.

Trumpeter Wynton Marsalis joins McGraw and Connick Jr. The trio were born in Louisiana, one of the worst-hit areas.

Music channel MTV plans to show its own hurricane relief concert, with Green Day and Alicia Keys, on 10 September.

'Work together'

Thousands are feared dead after the hurricane devastated areas on the Gulf coast, submerging most of New Orleans under water.

A Concert for Hurricane Relief starring Connick Jr and McGraw will be broadcast by US network NBC.

"I am heartbroken by the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina in my home state," said McGraw, who was born in Delhi, Louisiana.

"It's at times like these that each of us must work together to provide life-saving aid to those in terrible need."

MTV and sister networks VH1 and CMT plan to broadcast a live hurricane-relief special with R&B singer Alicia Keys and rock stars John Mellencamp and the Dave Matthews Band joining Green Day.

Veteran US entertainer Jerry Lewis said he would devote a portion of his annual Labour Day telethon for the Muscular Dystrophy Association charity, which starts on Sunday, to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

NBC broadcast a similar star-studded charity concert in January that raised more than $18m (Ł9.9m) for survivors of the tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands of people and left millions more homeless in South Asia and East Africa.

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124. "yup i saw his interview."
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dude was in tears. v. sad.

  

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139. "he's pissed as hell...made me cry...thats my doggie"
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132. "i know that, thats not what i'm talking about"
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149. "I know via his superdome speech...."
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there's more though....

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157. "no, he was in baton rouge this morning speaking"
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156. "my aunt is harry's manager yo"
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i can give you her management office number

  

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227. "if you could fwd this article to him that would be great."
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(and i think you got my e-mail and contact info).

he's obviously gonna be outfront on this and i want him to have as much info as possible.

dude was on larry king. they showed a photo of him kneeling by that dead old lady. he said he was saying a prayer for her, and that she would have a high place in heaven. his words were very powerful and moving.

he is what's up.


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230. "i sent it to my aunt's email addy"
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i dont know if she'll get it though (we don't speak that much)
but yeah, dude has been extremely good to my family
i wouldnt have a car right now if it werent for him

  

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101. "optional tragedy."
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a term to sum up american blak history if i've ever heard one.

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102. "Check this out if you need it."
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http://helpthesudan.com/main/?q=node/15&PHPSESSID=61ffa9276b45bf24858895d1d1409db9

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119. "YO, THANKS FOR THIS!!!!! i just used it to email my congressional"
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rep. (will still use the list above w/ everybody, but it looks better to hit him w/ his own form from his own constituent, nahmean. btw, this site is dope. i will have to hit it up)


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103. "NO's mayor was urging folks to contact congress/senators/etc..."
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that was the interview i woke up to 6AM this morning...

if anyone contact's their elected officials, i suggest complaining/callin out the head of FEMA too, cuz that mofo was also interviewed this morning and didnt shit. basic shit such as how many ppl are in NO, why havent they done any food/water drops like we do in other parts of the world. man i couldnt believe what i was hearing.

if them 2 interview transcripts is on cnn website, yall should check them out



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104. "list is up above w/ senate and house e-mail and phone contacts."
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we're also trying to set up a email script so we can send op eds to every paper in this country.

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107. "DONE"
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what else can we do?

  

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128. "'keep talkin about it' - mayor nagin"
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ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝
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105. "i sent it to the head of the Triangle Association of Black Journalists"
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to be sent to their/our listserv. (i forget that i'm a member sometimes. it would help if i paid my dues or went to a meeting, but i be having a lot of shit going on).


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108. "is there a formal link to your piece"
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?
maybe i'm missing it

im going to post up on my school's listserv

  

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110. "i write for an alt newsWEEKLY it won't run till next wednesday."
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i'm violating like shit by sending it out to my Triangle Association of Black Journalists listserv and any other outlet i can find but i don't care.

the only softcopy right now is what's posted up above. i'm trying to get SOMEONE, anyone to help put together an e-mail script and host it on a server so we can let people DO something. i'm moving in fifty directions, it's wild frustrating. i put a post up in high tech, and a link in activist back to here.

i shot the piece to the TABJ. i'm gonna put together a more concise note (no one is gonna publish 1900 wd manifesto) to be the skeleton for thsi mass mailing program that, on faith, i'm hoping will appear.

koshersam came through with 412 media outlet names and he has a mail merge routine and spreadsheet that individuals can use w/ word and outlook (i don't use outlook but looks like i'm gonna learn to).

i think i'll write/call my congressmen now and then get back to the bigger picture stuff (ie, enabling others to easily write).

anything you can do to help is greatly appreciated.


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112. "oh word? lol."
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i lied and put in my schools listserv it'll be up today
ah well.

i emailed senators clinton and schumer
now i'm really trying to find some local efforts apart from $$ donations

  

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115. "cool. i should have put my contact info with it."
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jennings8@earthlink.net

(mainstreamy folks may be cooler w/ that address than poetx99@yahoo.com)

we'll see.

also, i just sent it to the nigganet.


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126. "thanks, t. one of these fools gonna f*ck around and put a microphone"
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in my face and then it's REALLY on.

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130. "you can make that happen... Media Atlas also has tv/radio contacts"
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what area do you live in, i can get you a list of people to call. get on a radio show or something as a writer doing an interview. they will reference your article too, as an added bonus.

*Jews you*

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133. "word? i live in wake forest, NC (just north of raleigh)."
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yeah. this needs to happen. thank you very much, man, for your constant help. i got the e-mail. trying to set that off in a minute, after i contact my individual congresspeople.




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140. "i'll be on it in a little bit"
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every once in a while, i actually have work to do, lol.

*Jews you*

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174. "***HERES THE TV AND RADIO LIST***"
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some of them are outside the scope of what you want, so im emailing the full list to you, which has te subjects they cover.

Outlet Name First Name Last Name Contact Title Contact Phone Number Contact E-mail
12:30 Reports - WRAL-TV Scott Mason Special Projects Producer (919) 821-8555 smason@wral.com
Adam Gold Show - WRBZ-AM, The Chris Clark Producer (919) 875-9100 chris@850thebuzz.com
Computers 2k4 - WRBZ-AM Joe Ovies Producer (919) 875-9100 joe@850thebuzz.com
Enfoque Latino - WUVC-TV Lizette Cruz Watco Host & Producer (910) 323-4040
Lap Quilting-WUNC-TV Bill Hannah Producer (919) 549-7000
Luisa Su Voz Latina Luisa Vann Host & Producer (336) 841-0823 luisa@luisasuvozlatina.com
Meet The Teacher-Time Warner Cablevision Of Durham Zora Rashkis Columnist (919) 220-4481
News 14 Raleigh Ann Marie Breen Dayside Assignment Editor (919) 882-4040 news@news14.com
News 14 Raleigh Bryan Moore Senior Producer/Special Projects Reporte (919) 882-4040 Bryan.Moore@news14.com
News 14 Raleigh Rick Willis News Director (919) 882-4020 rick.willis@news14.com
News Central Weekend - WLFL-TV Kishia Kerey Producer (919) 872-9535
News Central Weekend - WLFL-TV Simone Parker Producer (919) 872-9535
Non-Stop News at 11:00 PM Weekend - WNCN-TV John Hancock Producer (919) 835-6399 john.hancock@nbc.com
North Carolina Now-WUNC-TV Julia Cox Producer (919) 549-7016
Open Line-WPTF-AM Bart Ritner Producer (919) 876-0674
Time Warner Cablevision of Durham Janet Evans (919) 477-4277
Traces Of Faces & Places-WRDT Maragret Murray Producer (919) 833-3874
WAUG-AM Jackie Brown Production Editor (919) 516-4750 waug@es.st-aug.edu
WAUG-AM T. McClain Program Director (919) 516-4750
WAUG-TV T. McClain Program Director (919) 516-4750
WAZZ-AM Larry Smith Program Director (910) 486-0965
WBBB-FM Jim DeFontes News Director (919) 876-3831 ptfnews@hotmail.com
WBUX-FM Emily Hanford News/Public Affairs Director (919) 966-5454 ehanford@wunc.org
WCBQ-AM Aaron Woodlief News Director (919) 693-4121 wcbqwhnc@gloryroad.net
WCBT-AM Les Atkins News Director (252) 538-4184 latkins@wnvn20.com
WCBT-AM Allen Garret Program Director (252) 538-4184
WCCE-FM Carolyn Bowden Program Director (910) 893-1745
WCHL-AM Jeff Hamilin News Director (919) 942-8765 wdnc_wchl@hotmusic.com
WCLN-AM Nolan Wiggins Program Director (910) 592-8949
WCLN-FM Steve Turley Program Director (910) 592-6403
WCPE-FM Richard Storck Program Director (919) 556-5178 dickstorck@mindspring.com
WCPS-AM Jimmy Johnson Program Director (252) 824-7878
WDCG-FM Tommy Owen News Director (919) 874-9839 towen@triangleradio.com
WDCG-FM Rick Schmidt Program Director (919) 878-1500 rick@g105.com
WDCG-FM Randi West Assistant Program Director/DJ (919) 878-1500 randi@g105.com
WDNC-AM Jeff Hamlin News Director (919) 790-9392 wdnc_wchl@hotmail.com
WDNC-AM Mike Sleyman Program Director/Assignment Editor (919) 687-6580 wdnc_wchl@hotmail.com
WDNC-AM Craig Summers Producer (919) 687-6580 wdnc_wchl@hotmail.com
WDUR-AM Todd Mishkin Morning Producer/Webmaster (919) 329-9810 todd@trianglesportstalk.com
WDUR-AM Taylor Zarzour Program Director/Morning Host (919) 329-9810 taylor@trianglesportstalk.com
WEEB-AM Steve Adams Program Director (910) 692-7440 steve@weeb990.com
Weekend Gardner-WPTF-AM Mike Raley Host (919) 876-0674
WEQR-FM Thomas Vick News Director (919) 734-4211
WETC-AM B. Paulson Program Director (919) 269-2240
WFLB-FM Larry Smith Program Director (910) 486-2070 larry@oldies965.com
WFMC-AM Natalie Stewart Program Director (919) 734-4211
WFMC-AM Thomas Vick News Director (919) 734-4211
WFMC-AM Mike Wilson Program Director (919) 734-4211
WFNC-AM Laura Chavis-Price News/Program Director (910) 864-3065 laura.price@cumulus.com
WFPX-TV Larry Wall Program Director (910) 843-3884
WFSS-FM Kathy Klaus News Director (910) 672-2041 kklaus@uncfsu.edu
WFSS-FM Janet Wright Program Director (910) 672-2038 jwright@uncfsu.edu
WFXC-FM Gayle Hurd News/PSA Director (919) 821-1043 ghurd@radio-one.com
WFXC-FM Cy Young Program Director (919) 863-4859 cyoung@radio-one.com
WFXK-FM Gayle Hurd News/Public Service Director (919) 848-9736 ghurd@radio-one.com
WFXK-FM Cy Young Program Director (919) 848-9736 cyoung@roraleigh.com
WHNC-AM Aaron Woodlief News Director (919) 693-4121
WIDU-AM Sandra Lofton Program Director (910) 483-6111
WIDU-AM Moses Mathis News Director (910) 483-6111
WIOZ-FM Tom McMahon News Director ext. 213 tom@star1025fm.com
WIOZ-FM Rich Rushforth Program Director (910) 692-2107 RICH@pinehurst.net
WIZS-AM John Rose News Director (252) 492-3001 wizs@vance.net
WJWS-AM Fred Hangrove Producer (804) 447-8997
WJWS-AM Norm Talley Editorial Director (434) 447-8997
WJWS-AM Robert Wilson Program Director (434) 447-8997
WKIX-FM Scott St. John Program Director (919) 851-2711
WKIX-FM Thomas Vick News Director (919) 736-1699
WKML-FM Don Chase AM Drive-Time Host (910) 483-9565 donchase@wkml.com
WKML-FM Paul Johnson Program Director (910) 486-2060 paul@wkml.com
WKNC-FM Jared Bassinger News Director (919) 515-2401 music@WKNC.org
WKNC-FM Mike Farrell Program Director (919) 515-2401
WKRX-FM Ralph Shaw News Director (336) 599-0266 ralphshaw@esinc.net
WLFL-TV Nicole Jacobs Assignment Editor (919) 872-9535
WLFL-TV Simone Parker Reporter/Weekend Producer (919) 872-9535
WLFL-TV Athena Stanfield Evening Assignment Editor (919) 790-9535
WLGQ-FM Les Atkins News Director (252) 536-3115
WMEK-AM Lee Payne News Director (434) 372-0803 leepayne@excite.com
WNCA-AM Renee Kennedy News Director (919) 742-2135
WNCN-TV Tammy Clayburn Executive Producer (919) 836-1717 tammy.clayburn@nbc.com
WNCN-TV Janet Conner-Knox News Planning Editor (919) 836-1717 janet.conner-knox@nbc.com
WNCN-TV Brett Feinberg Producer 1(919) 836-1717x326 brett.feinberg@nbc.com
WNCN-TV Charlie Norton Assistant News Director (919) 836-1717
WNCN-TV Larry Wall Program Director (919) 836-1717 larry.wall@nbc.com
WNCN-TV Nannette Wilson News Director (919) 836-1717 nannette.wilson@nbc.com
WNCR-TV Selena Crudup News Director/Assignment Manager/Executi (252) 407-8365 news@wncrtv41.com
WNCR-TV Penn Stallard Associate Producer/Reporter (252) 407-8365 news@wncrtv41.com
WNCU-FM B.H. Hudson Assistant Program Director (919) 560-9628 hudsonjazz@earthlink.net
WNCU-FM Aasim Inshirah Public Affairs Producer (919) 560-9628
WNCU-FM Kimberley Pierce News/Public Affairs Director (919) 560-9628
WNCU-FM Larry Thomas Program Director (919) 560-9628
WNNL-FM Gayle Hurd News Director (919) 848-9736 ghurd@radio-one.com
WNNL-FM Jerry Smith Program Director (919) 848-9736 jsmith@radio-one.com
WPJL-AM William Suttles Program Director (919) 834-6401
WPTF-AM Jim DeFontes News Director/Assignment Editor (919) 876-0674 wptfnews@curtismedia.com
WPTF-AM Mike Raley Host/Producer (919) 876-0674
WPTF-AM Bart Ritner Producer (919) 876-0674
WPTF-AM Jeremy Thompson Program Director (919) 876-0674
WPYB-AM Leon Tart News Director (919) 894-1130 wpyb@surrealnet.net
WQDR-FM Lisa McKay Program Director (919) 878-1724
WQDR-FM Mike Raley AM Drive-Time Anchor/News Director (919) 876-6464 mraley@curtismedia.com
WQNX-AM Tim Calcutt News Director (910) 944-1350 qtalk@pinehurst.net
WQOK-FM Cy Young Program Director (919) 848-9736 cyoung@radio-one.com
WQSM-FM Scott Free Program Director ext. 249 scott.free@cumulus.com
WRAL-FM Joe Wade Formicola Program Director (919) 890-6101
WRAL-FM Wayne Michaels Morning Show Producer/Late Night Disc Jo ext. 6126
WRAL-FM Mike Morse Early Morning Show Producer (919) 890-6101
WRAL-FM Ellen Reinhardt News Director/Managing Editor (919) 890-6101 ereinhardt@capitolnet.com
WRAL-TV Steve Abbott Assignment Manager (919) 821-8555 sabbott@wral.com
WRAL-TV Rick Armstrong Producer/Photographer (919) 821-8539 rarmstrong@wral.com
WRAL-TV John Clark News Producer (919) 821-8555 jclark@wral.com
WRAL-TV Susan Dahlin Entertainment Editor (919) 750-7520 sdahlin@wral.com
WRAL-TV David Fokey Executive Producer (919) 821-8599 dfokey@wral-tv.com
WRAL-TV Rick Gall News Director (919) 821-8647 newstip@wral.com
WRAL-TV Kelly Gardner News Producer (919) 821-8555 kgardner@wral.com
WRAL-TV John Harris Creative Services Director/Programming D (919) 821-8662 jharris@wral.com
WRAL-TV Lori Lair Producer (919) 821-8555 llair@wral.com
WRAL-TV Monica Laliberte Executive Producer (919) 821-8555x8617 mlaliberte@wral.com
WRAL-TV Kay Miller Producer (919) 821-8555 kmiller@wral.com
WRAL-TV Bonnie Moore Managing Editor (919) 821-8555
WRAZ-TV Rick Gall News Director (919) 595-5050
WRAZ-TV John Harris News Director (919) 595-5050
WRAZ-TV Joanne Stanley Program Director (919) 595-5221 jstanley@fox50.com
WRBZ-AM Chris Clark Producer (919) 875-9100 chris@850thebuzz.com
WRBZ-AM Adam Gold Program Director (919) 875-9100 adamgold@850thebizz.com
WRBZ-AM Joe Ovies Producer (919) 875-9100 joe@850thebuzz.com
WRCQ-FM Mark Arsen Program Director/Midday Disc Jockey (910) 864-5222 mark.arsen@cumulus.com
WRCQ-FM Laura Chavis-Price News Director (910) 864-5222
WRDC-TV Scott Bradsher Program Director (919) 872-2854
WRDU-FM Bryan Shaw Assistant Program Director/Promotions Di (919) 878-1500
WRDU-FM Jimmy Tidwell Program Director (919) 878-1500 jimmytidwell@clearchannel.com
WRMT-AM Shawn Matthews Program Director (252) 442-1490 smatthews@wsay.com
WRPX-TV Larry Wall Program Director (919) 821-4736
WRSN-FM Brian Taylor Program Director (919) 874-1500 briantaylor@clearchannel.com
WRVA-FM Sybil McGuire Assistant Program Director (919) 874-1500 sybilmcguire@clearchannel.com
WRVA-FM Jim Ziegler Program/Music Director (919) 874-1500 jimziegler@clearchannel.com
WRXO-AM Ralph Shaw News Director (336) 599-0266 ralphshaw@esinc.net
WSAY-FM Shawn Matthews Program Director (252) 442-8091 smatthews@wsay.com
WSRC-AM Haley Bailey Program Director (919) 479-1426 800950883@airmessage.net
WTIK-AM Chuck Harris News Director (919) 220-3226
WTVD-TV Rob Elmore News Director (919) 687-2211 news.director@wtvd.com
WTVD-TV Mark Falgout Special Projects Producer (919) 687-2332 wtvd@aol.com
WTVD-TV Laschon Harris Producer (919) 687-2212 laschon.harris@abc.com
WTVD-TV Angela Jaramillo Program Director (919) 687-2212 ajaramillo@wtvd.com
WTVD-TV Monique Oliver Producer (919) 687-2212 monique.oliver@abc.com
WTVD-TV Mandy Radeline Producer (919) 687-2212 mandy.radeline@abc.com
WTVD-TV Kerrelle Sampson Producer (919) 687-2212 kerrelle.sampson@abc.com
WTVD-TV Brendan Sherer Assistant News Director (919) 687-2212
WTVD-TV Steve Vargha Assignment Editor (919) 687-2212 wtvdassignmentdesk@abc.com
WTVD-TV Jennifer Wlach Assignment Editor (919) 687-2494 jennifer.l.wlach@abc.com
WUKS-AM Garrett Davis Assistant Program Director/DJ (910) 486-2080
WUNC-FM George Boosey Program Director (919) 966-5454 gboosey@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Susan Davis Senior Producer (919) 966-5454 sdavis@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Dave DeWitt Managing Editor (919) 966-5454 ddewitt@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Joe Graedon Executive Producer/Host (919) 966-5454 pharmacy@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Terry Graedon Executive Producer/Host (919) 966-5454 pharmacy@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Emily Hanford News/Public Affairs Director (919) 962-9151 ehanford@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Patty Painter-Wakefield Producer (919) 966-5454 ppainter@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Fred Wasser Executive Producer (919) 966-5454 fwasser@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Keith Weston Announcer/Producer (919) 966-5454 kweston@wunc.org
WUNC-FM Brent Wolfe News Editor/Public Affairs Producer (919) 966-5454 bwolfe@wunc.org
WUNC-TV Diane Lucas Program Director (919) 549-7064 dlucas@unctv.org
WUNC-TV Shannon Vickory Reporter/Producer/News Director (919) 549-7000 svickory@unctv.org
WUND-FM Emily Hanford News/Public Affairs Director (919) 966-5454 ehanford@wunc.org
WURI-FM Emily Hanford News/Public Affairs Director (919) 966-5454 ehanford@wunc.org
WUVC-TV Eduardo Chavez Producer (910) 323-4040
WUVC-TV Francisco Garcia Editor (910) 323-4040
WUVC-TV Karina Seguinot Editor (910) 323-4040 kseguinot@univision.net
WVOT-AM Michael Buscemi Program Director (252) 243-5157
WWBG-AM Gonzalo Castro Program Director (336) 714-2892
WWGP-AM Dorinda Marshall Program Director (919) 775-3525
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WXDU-FM Janette Park Program Director (919) 684-2957
WXKL-AM James Thomas Program Director (919) 774-1080
WYAL-AM John Hall Program Director (252) 826-3114
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WYMY-FM Julie Garza Program Director (919) 790-9392
WYRN-AM Marcia Good News Director (252) 496-3105
WZFX-FM Jeff Anderson Program Director/DJ (910) 486-2080 janderson@foxy99.com
WZFX-FM Mike Tech Assistant Program Director/Afternoon DJ (910) 486-2084 miketech@foxy99.com
WZUP-FM Keith Aycock Editor (877) 747-8887

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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Ananse
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111. "imma try to submit it to my local paper here and in"
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Charleston. they be buggin sometimes if the respoondent isn't from the local area, so i uhhhhh, might change your address to both of mine when i submit. i can perpetrate like i'm you when they call to verify. ha.

  

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poetx
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114. "sent the article to my cousin bob. he real big on the nigganet."
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(i be getting the most ghettoest wedding e-mail fwds from him on the regular).

hopefully this will cause it to turn up in some unexpected places.

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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lfresh
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129. "mind if"
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I think your article stirs up the emotions

mind if i post it to my myspace & email it out?


this will get even more people to start writing to their congressmen/local politicans
and put the pressure where it properly belongs and get the correct questions asked.


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<---- PSA: Don't fall for this



But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most? ~Twain

  

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TobiCharles
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117. "My family was watching CNN last night when..."
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the guy from FEMA said they didn't know people were in the dome in New Orleans. We were in awe. How does everyone else know but FEMA doesn't????
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Charles: Mommy, I want to hear that song again. Can you rewind it?
Me: I can't, baby, that's on the radio. I can't rewind that.
Charles: Yes, you can. Never say "can't".

www.myspace.com/tobi75

  

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poetx
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118. "just e-mailed my representative (thanks tonywashington). boy, that"
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felt good.

upward and onward.

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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brainsoup_
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120. "MP3 of Mayor Nagin on WWL."
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http://www.atypical.net/mm/nagin.mp3

  

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poetx
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131. "elizabeth dole's website won't take my comments. keeps saying"
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topic required. there's a fucking drop down list of topics for your comments to go under. like hurricane katrina and gas prices. the fuck is that???

i clicked 'how to help w/ hurricane victims'. it still wouldn't do it.

i'm calling. beeyatch.
peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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KosherSam
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141. "thats so they know which form letter to send you without reading it"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

  

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t510
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143. "i put CRIME"
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Max
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135. "Institution Building"
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your article is very good. especially your comparison between the tsunami in Asia & this. i hope you'll keep writing on this as you get more facts. perhaps some of the NO okp & other contacts will allow you to interview them. it would be great to read some firsthand accounts. i heard some on the radio this morning & was completely disgusted.

however, i hope another political action that will take place is people, black people, will become better organized. for me it's disappointing to see a MoveOn.org banner where that of a well-formed, well-funtioning black organization's could be. of course, that's a lesser disappointment than knowing that the poverty in places like NO has been able to fly for so long, that we as black folks have accepted our situation for so long. i'm sitting here wondering how strong or flexible our backs really are. how far up against the wall can they go before they completely fucking disintegrate? how many times do we have to be shot by police, kidnapped & left for dead, carted off to prison, have our children subjected to medical experiments, or be too poor to save ourselves before we take the direction of our lives in our own hands?

i don't have much faith in the new Millions More March, neither the leadership nor the participants. but i'm hoping that this event can be something that can anchor whatever discussions happen there. i'm also hoping that we all seek out our local organizations, grassroots & NGOs, & do something.

  

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poetx
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137. "Sample Letter to your congressperson:"
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here's the one i tried to send to libby dole (her site was f*cking up).

i sent my column to brad miller, my representative, because he's cool, and i'm hoping his staffers are.

but that's a bit much for most reps. here's a more concise version (especially if there's a word count restriction)
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*person's name*, I am *state who you are and what you do* I am ABSOLUTELY APPALLED at the horrific indifference shown by this administration toward its citizens, particularly those trapped in New Orleans.

This is the most wealthy nation in the WORLD. There is NO WAY that anyone can tell me that this is the best we can do. We cannot send buses with military escorts to evacuate these people. They are dying needlessly and this is a disgrace and a shame before the world. I implore you, if you have any compassion, sense of duty and responsibility to this nation's citizens, to make FEMA and every other government agency with the wherewithal to DO THEIR JOBS and remove these people from harms way.

This was no accident, nor act of God. The mismanagement of FEMA has been ongoing since this administration took office in the form of monies moved from mitigation strategies and diverted to the president's boondoggle in Iraq. Please. Say something. Use your clout. Make them set this right.

These people did not 'choose' to stay. They did not have cars, or money for gas. 'We', as a society which does not value it's poor, and especially its black poor, left them behind.

I plead with you to do something about this, now. And to hold those responsible for this needless tragedy responsible, later. If not, the song of democracy that we sing around the world rings hollow.

Sincerely,

*your name*.


please use this.




peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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146. "done. sent to all of my representatives."
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-T
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"rick ross got old african woman swag" (c)nayaa

  

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Brown Lioness
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147. "RE: Sample Letter to your congressperson:"
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should this be email or snail mail or is both most effective? I wanna pass this on to my sorors/friends/family.

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"I refuse to spend our hard-earned money on a bunch of pseudo-food. I will buy and eat actual food; things that God intended for us to eat...I don’t care how good you think it tastes, or how cheap it may be. It’s. Not. Food."

  

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155. "e-mail for now, because time is critical. maybe snail mail later"
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peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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183. "Thanks man."
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189. "done"
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ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝
www.alienatlien.wordpress.com

i got soul.

and i'm super bad.

  

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213. "done..n/m"
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"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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142. "Man I'm proud of okp right now n/m"
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148. "you wont believe this, but i had this very idea last night &"
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intended to make a post trying to get a letter writing campaign together when i woke this morning.

but you see what happens when i oversleep?? POET X STEALS MY THUNDER!!! *shakes fist*

no, but seriously

remember the tsunami stuff?

there were lots of emails and contacts posted there.. here's the link:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=18&topic_id=206&mesg_id=206&listing_type=search

maybe we can use some of the resources in that post again.

  

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150. "my article might be published on aol blackvoices."
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(i sent it to the afrofuturism listserv and the editor of that site is on there and contacted me).

my cuz is sending this thing all over the ni&&anet.

we gotta make this happen.

peace & blessings,

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165. "RE: my article might be published on aol blackvoices."
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I sent your article to all my friends and fam via email. And, I told them to forward it to all their friends and fam. And, I also emailed Senator Burr and I tried to get throught to Dole, but her email is either full or just fracked up. Do you think that if I emailed Bush, he would email me back?

Does anyone have Bush's email?

  

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228. "hi there"
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please send it to allhiphop.com too
you can email to me if need be and I'll pass it on

  

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231. "done. if the format is all jacked, let me know and i'll send from my rea..."
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it's the same as posted above, though.

thanks!

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151. "EMAIL OPRAH."
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serious.

oprah got mo money than a little bit and a GREAT deal of influence over the very people who need to be hearing this and doing something about it

matter fack, write to all ur favorite media personalities--money talks, & if they got some, they shld be doing SOMETHING. maybe we can appeal to them--musicians, actors, whoever.

definitely worth a shot.

but for real.. email oprah at least.

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158. "she's from mississippi"
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id figure she'd be down there in a quickness

  

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160. "he's what gave me the idea to contact celebs"
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more of them REALLY shld be doing what he's doing

esp blk ones

esp those from the south

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162. "holler @ tom joyner & blackamericaweb.com too"
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ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝ ďż˝
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166. "and kathy hughes - chuges@radio-one.com"
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171. "should it be chughees@radio-one.com ? also, i can't get an e-mail"
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addy for tom joyner. many sites nowadays (including moveon.org) are not publishing their e-mail addresses, but instead are pointing you to forums and whatnot. eff that.


peace & blessings,

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177. "i dunno, that's the address i copied & pasted from this site-"
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A//www.mddailyrecord.com/top100w/hughes.html&ei=h4UYQ4CHGKji-AHrpqjFCw

someone gave tom joyner's email address above.. does it not work?

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216. "lol. they own site is wrong. (i love black ppl**)."
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i sent it to chughes@radio-one.com and didn't get the return to sender joint, so i'm assuming that's the correct one.


** i kid, i kid. typos abound on the innanets. but for the HDIC of a huge entertainment conglomerate, you'd think they'd get that right. oh well. thanks for the suggestion. i sent an e-mail to her and also to news@blackamericaweb.com. hope they get through.

w/ the amount of spamming nowadays, the filtering of websites is CRAZY.

most spots you simply can not find a listed e-mail addy. all this flash webdesign (i hate that) and forms and shit.


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186. "& bob johnson's ex-wife...."
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she donated $500,000 to tom joyner's katrina relief fund

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152. "Mayor to Feds: "Get off your asses""
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.nagin/index.html

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FUCK DONALD TRUMP

  

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153. "Political Cartoons on Katrina's aftermath"
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http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/HurricaneKatrina/main.asp

that first one makes me angry.

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154. "inbox."
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~*~40 yrs. 6 days.~*~

"The world was warned about this...The CIA calls what happened in London today "blowback." It is wrong, it is heinous, it is murder plain and simple, and it was as predictable as the sun rising in the East." ~Wm Rivers Pitt

  

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161. "thumbs up to this post"
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nm

  

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163. "great article. great post."
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donating blood, money, supplies... that's turning our sadness and our compassion into positive action.

this... this is where we start turning our anger (and well justified at that) into positive action.

- fabulous / 26 | twentysixfab on aim
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200. "wow. i could not have said that better. nm"
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peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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164. "I wrote all my congress people"
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It's time to take more action. I am in Massachusetts and Senator Kennedy seems to be on the move. Barney Frank is my rep and he got an email-full today.

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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170. "cool. i just wrote sen. kennedy, too. thanks. nm"
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167. "i'm clapping at your heart mind and soul..."
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write it and make sure it gets noticed.

i work for a newspaper myself but its a local newspaper in philly that only likes to report about its community. it really fires me up when i see major life happenings in the world and i can't get into it or involve my paper... good for you i'm glad you stood your ground and went for what you believe in!!!!!!!!!!!IT DOES NEED TO BE SAID!

FUCK BUSH!

~~~~~~~~ luv R.
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168. "Thank you for your action. You have perfectly worded my rage."
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I hope and pray that people read your words and look at what's really going on down there.

MODS - please keep this thread anchored for as long as it takes. I'm at work and unfortunately have to get some work dome so I can't read the responses.

People (especially Black folks) - we need to take some real action. What's going on in NO is murder and is the further marginalizing and disenfranchisement of a neglected group of people in America...poor people and Black people.

http://www.facebook.com/marquealjordan
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169. "anyone know the status of folks incarcerated?"
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an org i work with does extensive work in the prison system and we've frequently worked with folks on lock in N.O. i'm wondering if they were evacuated, what their current status is, etc.? i can't imagine that this distaster is working to their benefit in any way...

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173. "i recall reading they were bused to prisons in baton rouge"
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195. "I smell an uprising"
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176. "im finna write up an online petition"
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178. "***TV AND RADIO LIST FOR RALEIGH DURHAM***"
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im reposting it down here so it doesnt get lost in the shuffle. get yo' ass on the local NPR affiliate or something and shout it out with 100,000 watts behind you!

some of them are outside the scope of what you want, so im emailing the full list to you, which has the subjects they cover.

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12:30 Reports - WRAL-TV Scott Mason Special Projects Producer (919) 821-8555 smason@wral.com
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191. "GOOD LOOKS! I just sent a copy to prog dir and public affairs dir"
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of WUNC. i've been so scatterbrained in this -- i've actually been on WUNC radio in the past (a year or so ago, talking about a book that I wrote an essay for, called The Hip Hop Tree).

thanks again.


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214. "i work with WFNC"
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in fact, i'm here right now....anyway, send that to Laura and I'll bug the hell outta her till she reads it....in fact, there are 4 stations in this network, and i'll print out a copies of your column and place em in each station by monday mornin....

"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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182. "ONLINE PETITION"
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http://www.petitiononline.com/5n2ndy7/petition.html

please sign it & forward the link to everybody in the world

once the signatures start adding up i'll send it to a bunch of congressmen, etc.

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184. "signed. now can we get one to opt out of america?"
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believe me, it's only a matter of time before we wish we had.

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185. "I know a guy with a show @ the NPR station in Santa Fe"
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I just sent him the article and asked if he would be interested in a phone interview. the webcast of his show gets 30-50K listeners

*Jews you*

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190. "got a blog/website?"
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post up poetx's piece w/ his emaiL! encourage it to be forwarded!

  

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197. "Done."
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207. "Done"
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and one of my readers picked it up and ran it on the Guerilla News Network

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192. "Michael Moore's Open Letter To Bush"
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Michael Moore's Open Letter To Bush

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Friday, September 2nd, 2005

Dear Mr. Bush:

Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.

Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?

Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!

I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?

And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!

On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.

There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.

No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!

You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.

Yours,

Michael Moore

  

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193. "this is dope shit.."
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i've been so busy making sure my friends were safe and trying to figure out how i could help i hadn't stopped by here in a while..

way to go off on your editor..that's some real shit...

much love,
Kyle


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194. "i just got off the jack with my people in the boot."
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my friend's boyfriend had a lot of interesting things to say, most notably "this is a fairytale that one day y'all will find out about." he got out, but his family is still in NO and he's in daily contact. if anyone can get his voice out, i can put you in touch with him.

  

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196. "http://www.gov.state.la.us/contact.asp"
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I wrote the governors office.

I SUGGUEST EVERYONE DO.

~~~~~~~~ luv R.
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201. "God Bless us all...."
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but I'm feeling very ill about this 'shoot to kill' bs the govt' is calling for. Bad enough the death toll will rise due to starvation, thirst, disease, & swamp creatures, but I wonder about the CNN reports of gangs riding in trucks and carrying guns...of all pics I have yet to see one of them. Just how many firearm deaths will be blamed on those unseen 'thugs' v.s. triggerhappy cops and a-wall troops.

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202. "the two sides of the global warming = hurricane debate"
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Debate linking global warming and hurricane intensity resumes
One study sees a connection, but other experts say severity is part of a natural cycle

By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA
Associated Press

Hurricane Katrina's fury has reignited the scientific debate about whether global warming might be making hurricanes more ferocious.
At least one prominent study suggests that hurricanes have become significantly stronger in the past few decades during the same period that global average temperatures have increased.

Katrina blew up in the Gulf of Mexico to a Category 5 hurricane with winds of 175 mph before slackening a bit Monday when it hit, swamping New Orleans and the Mississippi coast.

Other leading scientists agree the Atlantic Basin and Gulf Coast regions are being battered by a severe hurricane phase that could persist for another 20 years or more.

But they think that a natural environmental cycle is responsible rather than any human-induced change, and they point to what they consider to be large gaps in the global warming analysis conducted by a climatologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Roger Pielke, who studies the social impacts of natural disasters and climate change at the University of Colorado, said any link between the intensity of Katrina and other recent hurricanes and global warming is "premature." Most forecasts suggest climate change would increase hurricane wind speeds by 5 percent or less later in this century.

Pielke's analysis will be published later this year in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society.

"There are good reasons to expect that any conclusive connection between global warming and hurricanes or their impacts will not be made in the near term," he said.

In August, MIT climatologist Kerry Emanuel reported in the journal Nature that major storms spinning in both the Atlantic and the Pacific have increased in duration and intensity by about 50 percent since the 1970s.

During that period, global average temperatures have risen by about one degree Fahrenheit along with increases in the level of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping pollutants from industry smokestacks, traffic exhaust and other sources.

Hurricanes rely on huge pools of warm water at the surface of the ocean to grow for several days. As trade winds spin the storm, they pull more heat from the ocean and uses it as fuel. Typically, large storms require sea surface temperatures of at least 81 degrees.

Scientists say rising global atmospheric temperatures have been slowly raising ocean temperatures, although they still vary widely from year to year.

On Web logs, scientists and environmentalists in the United States and Europe sparred over the possible connection.

The evidence linking global warming and hurricane intensity might be fuzzy, but it highlights a potential issue worth examining right away, some say.
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also, via bluetiger:
huge problems w/ equating global warming w/ more hurricanes

Look at these three sites first:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/index.html
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/Table4.htm
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml

According to the last site, the last half of the last century (ending 2000) saw a greater than 25% drop in the number of hurricanes than the first half of the century. So how is global warming causing more hurricanes now?

The last thirty years has shown a decrease in the average number of category 3/4/5 hurricanes. Each of the last three decades was below average.

I think the consensus is that we have entered a warm temperature cycle in 95 that is still carrying on. This has nothing to do with global warming, but is just the earth doing its thing. However, given the reported oil shortages and price spikes, one doesn't need to talk about global warming anymore to motivate alternative fuel discussions. Also see the NYT magazine article about Peak Oil from two weeks ago.

Even IF (which it didn't) global warming caused Katrina, Bush didn't cause global warming, and even if he fully executed Kyoto, that would have had zero effect on global warming in the last five years.

  

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219. "i think it's counterproductive to even broach the global warming"
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issue in connection with katrina, due to the fact that there are much more immediate causes to this disaster, which are entirely caused by bush's admin.

* the demotion of dir of FEMA from a cabinet level post
* the stated policy that they didn't want FEMA to be perceived as an entitlement program (those people were enitled t some damn helicopters and military transports)
* reversal of no net wetlands loss policy by his father and clinton. every acre of wetland reduces potential storm surge by 2ft (don't have the exact fig, but it's something like that). they reversed that once in office and developers have been building like crazy along the coast in the gulf
* the reduction, every year, of the corps of engineer's budget for sw La, and surrounding areas
* the diversion of resources (a third of the guard) to the gulf, including heavy equipment.
* diversion of money to bogus war on terror (and if this was a terrorist attack, they would ALL be dead)
* the changing of mitigation from 'everybody gets it' to competitive bid. NO lost on competitive bid despite the fact that report by FEMA in 2001 listed cat 4 or 5 hurricane there as ranking third on list of catastrophe's beyond nuke/terror attack (*cough*, ny) and earthquake in california.

beyond the above, there were monumental operational delays and mistakes that are inexcusable. i'd rather leave global warming debate to scientists. i'm sure there are effects, but we are probably well within margin of fluctuation on ocean temps






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204. "Republicans take action:"
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By repealing the estate tax! Exactly what we need right now! Protecting multi-millionaires from the big, bad government. I can't imagine anything better they could be wrking on right now.


http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/02/katrina-estate-tax/

BREAKING: Despite Katrina, Frist Will Call Vote on Estate Tax Repeal

Senate Finance Committee members were informed this morning that Sen. Bill Frist will move forward with a vote to permanently repeal the estate tax next week, likely on Tuesday, ThinkProgress has learned.

One stands in awe of Sen. Frist’s timing. Permanently repealing the estate tax would be a major blow to the nation’s charities. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has “found that the estate tax encourages wealthy individuals to donate considerably more to charity, since estate tax liability is reduced through donations made both during life and at death.” If there were no estate tax in 2000, for example, “charitable donations would have been between $13 billion to $25 billion lower than they actually were.”

As they did after 9/11 and during the lead-up to the Iraq war, conservatives have placed tax cuts for the most wealthy and well-off over the spirit of shared national sacrifice. What a stark contrast to the outpouring of generosity being shown by the American people in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.

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234. "wow. that's downright ghoulish in impact and probably in intent."
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13 - 25 B dollars/yr? damn.


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206. "keep it up poetx!!"
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this was an awesome idea man.
i made good use of your generic e-mail outline and sent that out to all my reps. and senators. and to the little Bush just in case he hasn't already received a shit load of them.

that petition i signed and linked to all my people so hopefully it will blow up pretty quick. are there anymore petitions like this online so i can pass the word along?

keep up the strong, positive work brothers and sisters!

  

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208. "**ANOTHER EMAIL WEBSITE LINK - US GOVT, SENATE, HOUSE**"
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I found this through Google. I hate the idea of what the site might represent, but its a GREAT list:

http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm

If you have access to Excel, you can copy/paste the list in, & fiddle w/ it some to isolate the email address.

Then you can export this to Word (for a mail merge) or just copy/paste into your email "to:" field.

I'm working on getting a link up on my website over the next couple days w/ downloadable list in Excel & Word. Or if anyone already has, inbox me & I'll post it.

peace

Smoody
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211. ""does any have any newspaper images""
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of the stuff going on in NO?
if so can you please cut them out and mail them to me.?
my sig other threw out our old papers before i could get to them

ill inbox u my addy

  

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218. "If anyone has specific members of the media they want to contact"
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let me know, i have access to a subscription based media directory (see above posts), and will do my best to get it to you quickly.

*Jews you*

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220. "Has anyone written about the use of "refugees"..."
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By the media? This is not only inordinately ignorant--black American citizens being represented refugees???--but I just read an article in a British newspaper online also using the word refugees: "President George W. Bush ordered thousands more troops to New Orleans on Saturday to help pull desperate refugees out of the hurricane-ravaged city...". So people the world over are reading about our "refugee" situation? STOP CALLING THESE PEOPLE REFUGEES! We know the sociopolitical connotation of this word and it is HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE to be using it on our own people!

Has anyone written about this topic to local/national editors, papers, etc?

Word, and does anyone have an excel/word merge thing for the Senators and Congresspeople so that we can get at them about this and other issues?

Please reply.

PeAcE

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221. "are you going to re-write to include kanye"
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into the equation, and/or the aftermath of his statment?

edit: i speak to someone who writes for the village voice (here in nyc) now and then at the job. i'm thinking i might try to get it to him, (we ain't like "that", but shit, we talk, so why not try?) or i could send it in to the letters to the editor.

let us know, when it's absolutely done (are you gonna tack on your contact info?) before this baby starts getting sent off.



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225. "it's already absolutely done. before i posted it here i'd already"
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sent the draft to my editor and he got it when he came in on friday morning.

if you can find a way to get it to the voice, more power.

my gov't info is:

derek m. jennings

jennings8@earthlink.net.


for okps and informal ish, poetx99@yahoo.com

thanks.

btw, the kanye shit, although that is my ninja from here on out b/c of that, i'm gonna have to let slide for a min. best believe i'm gonna cop late reg off the strength (and actually BUY college dropout *guilty smirk*), but any stuff i do to support kanye is stuff i could be doing to holler at more congress people and media outlets. i trust that others (at least from these boards) got his back.

and if muhfuckas weren't gonna donate to the redcross b/c of what he said, you know what? fuckit. we don't need that money.



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222. "OMG! I know why they waited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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So that people would complain about the federal government taking it's time. Then the government would be able to blame the delay on the "rules" of federal response. Now, they can bring in a NEW plan to enable to them to respond more quickly.

The new plan will "enable the national guard to focus more quickly on SECURITY".

Another Patriot Act.

  

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236. "article from NY Times yesterday on FEMA appointments, etc:"
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someone fwded it to me. and i forwarded my column to him, w/ the following preamble:

Mr. Krugman,

Thank you very much for your column yesterday on the political and ideological buildup to the recent catastrophe in the US gulf (as opposed to our catastrophe in the Persian Gulf). I wrote last week and attempted to highlight some o f the same issues (see attached), and, like yourself, was particularly galled at the appointments of John Allbaugh and then Michael Brown as heads of FEMA when they clearly had no experience. It was contemptuous of the American people and of the mission of that office.

Please keep digging, keep writing and prevent Karl Rove and co. from spinning their way out of yet another monumental lapse of judgement and decency.

thanks,

(by the way, i will take the above and make it into a letter to congress, and include a link to the ny times story, so folks can send this out and particularly, senators and reps can see THEIR mistakes in letting this go unchallenged). also, write mr. krugman and big him up and encourage him to continue his efforts on behalf of the people.



September 5, 2005
Killed by Contempt
By PAUL KRUGMAN

Each day since Katrina brings more evidence of the lethal ineptitude of federal officials. I'm not letting state and local officials off the hook, but federal officials had access to resources that could have made all the difference, but were never mobilized.

Here's one of many examples: The Chicago Tribune reports that the U.S.S. Bataan, equipped with six operating rooms, hundreds of hospital beds and the ability to produce 100,000 gallons of fresh water a day, has been sitting off the Gulf Coast since last Monday - without patients.

Experts say that the first 72 hours after a natural disaster are the crucial window during which prompt action can save many lives. Yet action after Katrina was anything but prompt. Newsweek reports that a "strange paralysis" set in among Bush administration officials, who debated lines of authority while thousands died.

What caused that paralysis? President Bush certainly failed his test. After 9/11, all the country really needed from him was a speech. This time it needed action - and he didn't deliver.

But the federal government's lethal ineptitude wasn't just a consequence of Mr. Bush's personal inadequacy; it was a consequence of ideological hostility to the very idea of using government to serve the public good. For 25 years the right has been denigrating the public sector, telling us that government is always the problem, not the solution. Why should we be surprised that when we needed a government solution, it wasn't forthcoming?

Does anyone remember the fight over federalizing airport security? Even after 9/11, the administration and conservative members of Congress tried to keep airport security in the hands of private companies. They were more worried about adding federal employees than about closing a deadly hole in national security.

Of course, the attempt to keep airport security private wasn't just about philosophy; it was also an attempt to protect private interests. But that's not really a contradiction. Ideological cynicism about government easily morphs into a readiness to treat government spending as a way to reward your friends. After all, if you don't believe government can do any good, why not?

Which brings us to the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In my last column, I asked whether the Bush administration had destroyed FEMA's effectiveness. Now we know the answer.

Several recent news analyses on FEMA's sorry state have attributed the agency's decline to its inclusion in the Department of Homeland Security, whose prime concern is terrorism, not natural disasters. But that supposed change in focus misses a crucial part of the story.

For one thing, the undermining of FEMA began as soon as President Bush took office. Instead of choosing a professional with expertise in responses to disaster to head the agency, Mr. Bush appointed Joseph Allbaugh, a close political confidant. Mr. Allbaugh quickly began trying to scale back some of FEMA's preparedness programs.

You might have expected the administration to reconsider its hostility to emergency preparedness after 9/11 - after all, emergency management is as important in the aftermath of a terrorist attack as it is following a natural disaster. As many people have noticed, the failed response to Katrina shows that we are less ready to cope with a terrorist attack today than we were four years ago.

But the downgrading of FEMA continued, with the appointment of Michael Brown as Mr. Allbaugh's successor.

Mr. Brown had no obvious qualifications, other than having been Mr. Allbaugh's college roommate. But Mr. Brown was made deputy director of FEMA; The Boston Herald reports that he was forced out of his previous job, overseeing horse shows. And when Mr. Allbaugh left, Mr. Brown became the agency's director. The raw cronyism of that appointment showed the contempt the administration felt for the agency; one can only imagine the effects on staff morale.

That contempt, as I've said, reflects a general hostility to the role of government as a force for good. And Americans living along the Gulf Coast have now reaped the consequences of that hostility.

The administration has always tried to treat 9/11 purely as a lesson about good versus evil. But disasters must be coped with, even if they aren't caused by evildoers. Now we have another deadly lesson in why we need an effective government, and why dedicated public servants deserve our respect. Will we listen?

E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com





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237. "FUMING!!!!"
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I never post here, only read, but I gotta say the entire situation pisses me off to no end. How is it we can find Sadamm in a hole, but we cannot find food and water for the victims. I live in a small town, and this is ridiculous. The people in my community are not doind shit. I keep watching the news and surfing to find a way to help. This is the time when donations will get ripped off. Someone will have sticky fingers and the assistance at some level will not get to those in need. I am tired of Bush and the BS of FEMA and others who should have been making executive decisions very quickly. Babies are getting raped, people getting shot. Soon there is going to be serious diseases, because of the toxic water people had to walk through. There is no sense of urgency. Even now, I can hardley form my words. I'm just mad. Luckily my family made it to the Astrodome and then got to other family in Alabama, but the horrific stories about what has happened after the hurricane are sad. I think the worst thing about it is not the hurricane itself, but the lack of response.

  

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238. "Letter Writing"
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http://www.thepraxisproject.org/news/katrina.html
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239. "I think my letter is getting published in a paper"
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I'll let you guys know. I got an email back from one of the editors

keep writing y'all someone is reading them.

I still haven't heard back from 99% of the emails I sent but that 1% makes me know the effort was not in vain

Shit maybe even the White House will read it. I sent Dick Cheney email saying there needs to be a Senate investigation. But no response from them.

peace

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242. "that is excellent. way to stay at it. btw, sen obama is calling for"
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senate hearings. he said he'd sponsor if no one from the affected states did. once that is official, we can bombard the remaining sen's to force them to support the measure.

way to go!!!


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240. "The mayor of Shelby County responded to my email!!"
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and it wasn't a form letter, either. I am so grateful for his response. Anyhoo, I worte him back with a couple of ideas I had. This is the closest I have ever been to having an audience with someone in power.


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241. "that is awesome! thanks for letting us know that (haven't heard anything"
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back from my congresspeoples). that is great. feels good to have some connection.

btw, i did hear back from some producers at WUNC radio and they put me on to the proper connects for their public affairs programming. hopefully i can do a commentary or interview there.


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243. "lol @ clownass director of FEMA (link to FEMA memo from m. brown)"
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050907/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_disaster_response

check this out: http://wid.ap.org/documents/dhskatrina.pdf

he didn't request help until after hurricane hit, and then, only a couple thousand ppl, and told them they could take two days to get there.

and that their job was to help give a good picture of the agency. this is insane.



By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The government's disaster chief waited until hours after Hurricane Katrina had already struck the Gulf Coast before asking his boss to dispatch 1,000
Homeland Security employees to the region — and gave them two days to arrive, according to internal documents.
ADVERTISEMENT

Michael Brown, director of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency, sought the approval from Homeland Security Secretary Mike Chertoff roughly five hours after Katrina made landfall on Aug. 29. Brown said that among duties of these employees was to "convey a positive image" about the government's response for victims.

Before then, FEMA had positioned smaller rescue and communications teams across the Gulf Coast. But officials acknowledged Tuesday the first department-wide appeal for help came only as the storm raged.

Brown's memo to Chertoff described Katrina as "this near catastrophic event" but otherwise lacked any urgent language. The memo politely ended, "Thank you for your consideration in helping us to meet our responsibilities."

The initial responses of the government and Brown came under escalating criticism as the breadth of destruction and death grew.
President Bush and Congress on Tuesday pledged separate investigations into the federal response to Katrina. "Governments at all levels failed," said Sen. Susan Collins (news, bio, voting record), R-Maine.

Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said Brown had positioned front-line rescue teams and Coast Guard helicopters before the storm. Brown's memo on Aug. 29 aimed to assemble the necessary federal work force to support the rescues, establish communications and coordinate with victims and community groups, Knocke said.

Instead of rescuing people or recovering bodies, these employees would focus on helping victims find the help they needed, he said.

"There will be plenty of time to assess what worked and what didn't work," Knocke said. "Clearly there will be time for blame to be assigned and to learn from some of the successful efforts."

Brown's memo told employees that among their duties, they would be expected to "convey a positive image of disaster operations to government officials, community organizations and the general public."

"FEMA response and recovery operations are a top priority of the department and as we know, one of yours," Brown wrote Chertoff. He proposed sending 1,000 Homeland Security Department employees within 48 hours and 2,000 within seven days.

Knocke said the 48-hour period suggested for the Homeland employees was to ensure they had adequate training. "They were training to help the life-savers," Knocke said.

Employees required a supervisor's approval and at least 24 hours of disaster training in Maryland, Florida or Georgia. "You must be physically able to work in a disaster area without refrigeration for medications and have the ability to work in the outdoors all day," Brown wrote.

The same day Brown wrote Chertoff, Brown also urged local fire and rescue departments outside Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi not to send trucks or emergency workers into disaster areas without an explicit request for help from state or local governments. Brown said it was vital to coordinate fire and rescue efforts.

Sen. Barbara Mikulski (news, bio, voting record), D-Md., said Tuesday that Brown should step down.

After a senators-only briefing by Homeland Security Secretary
Michael Chertoff and other Cabinet members, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (news, bio, voting record) said lawmakers weren't getting their questions answered.

"What people up there want to know, Democrats and Republicans, is what is the challenge ahead, how are you handling that and what did you do wrong in the past," said Schumer, D-N.Y.

Sen. Ted Stevens (news, bio, voting record), R-Alaska, said the administration is "getting a bad rap" for the emergency response. "People have to understand this is a big, big problem."

Meanwhile, the airline industry said the government's request for help evacuating storm victims didn't come until late Thursday afternoon. The president of the Air Transport Association, James May, said the Homeland Security Department called then to ask if the group could participate in an airlift for refugees.

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On the Net:

Federal Emergency Management Agency: http://www.fema.gov

Homeland Security Department: http://www.dhs.gov

The memo from FEMA Director Mike Brown to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff is available at: http://wid.ap.org/documents/dhskatrina.pdf






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244. "Please distribute the memo to everyone you know..."
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and have them pass it on to their friends, colleagues, etc. What angers me is the lack of urgency reflected in the memo to Homeland Security and the amount of bureaucratic "red tape" that the relief workers had to get through before they could be dispatched to assist the residents.

There is NO way that Congressional representatives should succeed in preventing an independent investigation into the federal government's response (or lack thereof) when this memo outlines FEMA's incompetence and deliberate indifference to the tragedy.

I know that most of you already have, but we should all continue to communicate with our elected representatives and emphasize the necessity of a thorough independent investigation to ensure that the appropriate individuals are held accountable.

Memo: DHS Response
http://wid.ap.org/documents/dhskatrina.pdf

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dude's tone in the memo is like he was inviting some folks to decorate for the annual FEMA dance or some shit. on some, if you're not doing anything else, and you get permission from your first and second line managers, you *might* wanna consider maybe coming down and helping us out with this little disaster thing we got going on. if you're up to it. that is, if you don't have anything else going on that weekend.

it's incomprehensible. i work in IT, and i always say that "we ain't saving babies", but damn if we don't act with a real sense of urgency in resolving computer problems before they amount to millions of dollars of expense or missed revenue for our customers. if anyone EVER, in a position of authority, was a lackadaisical as these clowns, they'd be cussed out and fired on the spot.

i'm going to write another 'canned letter' for the folks to send.


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246. "Dope. Letter writing is actually more important now."
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Folks are talking potential'watergate' with this one.

This is a HUUUUGGGEE scandal waiting to happen. Hell, if this whole "whistle-blower" thing can catch fire like it did, this one should.

I doubt they can prevent an independent investigation. The government is pretty lousy at being clandestine about thing like this....lots of documents flying around.



>dude's tone in the memo is like he was inviting some folks to
>decorate for the annual FEMA dance or some shit. on some, if
>you're not doing anything else, and you get permission from
>your first and second line managers, you *might* wanna
>consider maybe coming down and helping us out with this little
>disaster thing we got going on. if you're up to it. that is,
>if you don't have anything else going on that weekend.
>
>it's incomprehensible. i work in IT, and i always say that "we
>ain't saving babies", but damn if we don't act with a real
>sense of urgency in resolving computer problems before they
>amount to millions of dollars of expense or missed revenue for
>our customers. if anyone EVER, in a position of authority, was
>a lackadaisical as these clowns, they'd be cussed out and
>fired on the spot.
>
>i'm going to write another 'canned letter' for the folks to
>send.
>
>
>peace & blessings,
>
>x.
>
>sigless for the summer, y'all.

  

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250. "You're absolutely correct."
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This is a scandal of Watergate proportions, because there is more than an election and a few stolen documents at stake. Thousands of people died here, and most of these casualties could have been prevented.

>I doubt they can prevent an independent investigation. The
>government is pretty lousy at being clandestine about thing
>like this....lots of documents flying around.

I hope you're right. If the Democrats step up to the plate like Senator Obama and Nancy Pelosi did yesterday, then there will be inevitably be an investigation. Now is the time for the party to assert itself and represent its constituency, because Dennis Hastert is determined to forestall any investigation.

We should encourage our local papers (if they haven't already) to print the memo in its entirety. Let people see the truth. No matter how the administration tries to put a spin on what happened, they won't be able to deny the direct link between the federal government's response and the tragic unfolding of events as demonstrated by the memo.

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247. "new canned letter: CALLING FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION"
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and the immediate dismissal of Michael Brown, Director of FEMA:

Congressman ______,

I am a ______ resident >>>> omit this if you are writing out of state congressperson <<<<<< , currently residing in _____, and as such am requesting that you and your fellow members of Congress bring all the pressure you can muster forth to call for the immediate dismissal of the Director of FEMA, Michael Brown, and to insist upon a timely and thorough independent investigation of the gross failure of the federal government to protect it's citizens in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

I, like so many other Americans, am appalled and ashamed at what has transpired. Those countless people died not for our lack of ability to care for them, but for lack of WILL on the part of our government, and that is a larger tragedy that cannot be allowed to stand, unchallenged, if our country even remotely resembles the idealized and enlightened land set forth by its founding fathers.

It is inconceivable to me that an administration which never misses an opportunity to take an adversarial stand on affirmative action, so blatantly and cavalierly operates on the much more pervasive and pernicious system of nepotism, patronage, and cronyism (pernicious in that it seeks to undo no historical wrongs, and is not subject to any level of accountability).

The president's first FEMA Director, John Allbaugh, had no substantive emergency management background. His most important credential for this most important job was serving as Chief Of Staff for Bush in Texas, and helping in his 2000 Presidential Campaign. When he left, to pursue a lucrative career in consulting (after assisting the administration in outsourcing much of FEMA's work), he was replaced by his Deputy Director, the current head, Michael Brown, who also had no emergency management and disaster recovery background prior to being placed second-in-command, and now, Director. I imagine that it could not have been too good for morale for those who have spent careers at the agency to be headed by people who, quite frankly, did not know what they were doing.

Please have a look at the following memo, from Director Brown, which was not penned until after the hurricane struck:

http://wid.ap.org/documents/dhskatrina.pdf

In it, he requests that 2,000 FEMA employees come on down to the disaster site, in a day or so (he gave them two days), pending authorization from their manager. It's as if he were soliciting people to aid in organizing the annual picnic, not commandeering a response to a humanitarian disaster.

As late as Thursday, he commented on CNN that he was unaware that the people trapped in the Convention Center had no food or water, despite that this fact was broadcast for over a day on that very network.

However, it would be myopic and tragically so, to lay all of the blame on Brown, and his equally bumbling 'boss', Mr. Chertoff of the Department of Homeland Security. The fundamental missteps which set the table for this disaster were put in place by the Bush Administration, which, through it's publicly stated objectives, sought to diminish the role of FEMA, and which savaged disaster mitigation budgets (including the now well-publicized slashing of Army Corps of Engineers' levee projects in New Orleans).

It would be a shame if the American people were allowed to continue the misplaced belief that this was all "out of our control", or a simple case of human error. In reality, the administration has played politics with this country's disaster preparedness from the start, and the real tragedy is that the aims of their callous and obstinate policies have come to fruition.

Thank you,

___________________



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

btw, my column on the aftermath of katrina, written last thursday, was published today and can be found here:

http://indyweek.com/durham/current/jennings.html





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248. "if FEMA Dir is fired, his assistants are even MORE unqualified!!! (SWIPE..."
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this shit is unbelievable...

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/06/fema-deputies/

also, more on brown's background. he was fired from his last private sector gig overseeing horse shows. (?!!!???). but he was the college roomie of the other no-experience having clown (John Allbaugh) that bush named as his first FEMA director. his boy put him on as deputy director, and he was in charge when he left.

yet motherfuckers steadfastly be shitting on affirmative action, where you at least have to be QUALIFIED.

cronyism and patronage determine the head of a public agency responsible for safeguarding the lives of millions of americans. that's just effing great.

pass this on.

**edited to paste contents of horse show article. this is wild**

Brown pushed from last job: Horse group: FEMA chief had to be `asked to resign'
By Brett Arends
Saturday, September 3, 2005 - Updated: 02:01 PM EST

The federal official in charge of the bungled New Orleans rescue was fired from his last private-sector job overseeing horse shows.
And before joining the Federal Emergency Management Agency as a deputy director in 2001, GOP activist Mike Brown had no significant experience that would have qualified him for the position.
The Oklahoman got the job through an old college friend who at the time was heading up FEMA.
The agency, run by Brown since 2003, is now at the center of a growing fury over the handling of the New Orleans disaster.
``I look at FEMA and I shake my head,'' said a furious Gov. Mitt Romney yesterday, calling the response ``an embarrassment.''
President Bush, after touring the Big Easy, said he was ``not satisfied'' with the emergency response to Hurricane Katrina's devastation.
And U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch predicted there would be hearings on Capitol Hill over the mishandled operation.
Brown - formerly an estates and family lawyer - this week has has made several shocking public admissions, including interviews where he suggested FEMA was unaware of the misery and desperation of refugees stranded at the New Orleans convention center.
Before joining the Bush administration in 2001, Brown spent 11 years as the commissioner of judges and stewards for the International Arabian Horse Association, a breeders' and horse-show organization based in Colorado.
``We do disciplinary actions, certification of (show trial) judges. We hold classes to train people to become judges and stewards. And we keep records,'' explained a spokeswoman for the IAHA commissioner's office. ``This was his full-time job . . . for 11 years,'' she added.
Brown was forced out of the position after a spate of lawsuits over alleged supervision failures.
``He was asked to resign,'' Bill Pennington, president of the IAHA at the time, confirmed last night.
Soon after, Brown was invited to join the administration by his old Oklahoma college roommate Joseph Allbaugh, the previous head of FEMA until he quit in 2003 to work for the president's re-election campaign.

The White House last night defended Brown's appointment. A spokesman noted Brown served as FEMA deputy director and general counsel before taking the top job, and that he has now overseen the response to ``more than 164 declared disasters and emergencies,'' including last year's record-setting hurricane season.





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249. "You have done an outstanding deed."
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please email me the link to the article.

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252. "look right below. nm"
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251. "my article ran today..."
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here it is, all linkable. (and a good thing. b/c i was e-mailing it and my earthlink account was inserting all kinds of weird ass characters. one lady sent it back to me so i could see. shit was crazy. looked like i was on some unab0ma manifesto shit. dag.)


anywho:

http://indyweek.com/durham/current/jennings.html

the link will change next wednesday, but that's it for now.



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259. "amazing!!"
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this is spectacular...

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263. "you make us proud"
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264. "any word from allhiphop.com? also, when i sent the e-mail,"
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did it look ok?

someone else i sent it to said the format was all messed up.


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253. "How FEMA delivered the 2004 election *swipe*"
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http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000246.htm

FEMA: Florida Election Management Agency


Mel Brooks once said, "it's good to be king." Well when it comes to hurricanes, it's even better being the President's brother. Especially in a vital swing state. In an election year.
Louisiana's Democratic Governor Kathleen Blanco is learning that the hard way. While her state suffered through a disastrous, disorganized and delayed response to Katrina from FEMA and the Bush administration, Florida governor Jeb Bush had no such problems as his state weathered four hurricanes in 2004.

There is no mystery to this discrepancy, as GovExec.com wrote in "How FEMA Delivered Florida for Bush" on November 3rd, 2004, literally the day after the President won reelection:

Now that President Bush has won Florida in his 2004 re-election bid, he may want to draft a letter of appreciation to Michael Brown, chief of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Seldom has any federal agency had the opportunity to so directly and uniquely alter the course of a presidential election, and seldom has any agency delivered for a president as FEMA did in Florida this fall.
FEMA's preparation, performance and questionable largesse during the four 2004 Florida hurricanes stands in stark contrast with its abysmal failure in New Orleans in the wake of Katrina. While severe, the four Florida hurricanes (Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne) caused under 100 deaths and $22 billion in damage, a fraction of Katrina's destructive force. Yet FEMA's proactive role and President Bush's timely and personal involvement in Florida bear no relation to 2005:

Hurricane Charley in August 2004 saw FEMA, National Guard troops, relief supplies and President Bush on stand by before the storm even made landfall. As the St. Petersburg Times reported on August 17th, 2004, "Governor Jeb Bush sought federal help Friday while Charley was still in the Gulf of Mexico. President Bush approved the aid about an hour after the hurricane made landfall." Cargo planes flew FEMA supplies supplies from a Georgia Air Force base to a staging area in Lakeland, and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers had stockpiled 11 truckloads of water and 14 truckloads of ice. Guy Daines, the former Pinellas County director of emergency services, was pleased and impressed with the rapid response of the National Guard and the delivery of pre-positioned supplies, stating "It amazed me how they got over 4,000 National Guard troops in there that quick. Rather than sit there and react, they are trying to get a jump-start on everything."

FEMA again prepositioned personnel, supplies, and equipment for the Frances, which struck in the first week of September. A FEMA press release offered a laundry list descriptio of preparations for Frances. 30,000 tarps, 100 truckloads of water and 100 truckloads of ice were already in place. Emergency medical teams and four urban search and rescue teams were already in place. By September 6, 900,000 Meals Ready to Eat (MRE's) were stockpiled in Jacksonville. President Bush himself got into the act, distributing ice to Florida hurricane victims with brother Jeb.


This performance was repeated for Ivan and Jeanne, which hit two and three weeks later, respectively. Again, FEMA was in place with food, ice, water, and financial aid in advance of the arrival of the storms. By September 29, FEMA was providing detailed daily updates on its relief eforts, including over $360 million in aid to individuals. This assistance was augmented by the IRS, which granted tax relief for Florida hurricane victims.


Large and timely federal recovery funding was never an issue for the Florida Four. Congress passed $13 billion in recovery spending for the 2004 hurricanes, the bulk of which went to Florida. By August of 2005, $5.6 billion had been spent.

Whether that money had been spent wisely by FEMA director Michael Brown is another subject altogether. On May 18, 2005, the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs held hearings about waste and corruption in the Florida programs. In a session titled, "FEMA’s Response to the 2004 Florida Hurricanes: A Disaster for Taxpayers?," Senators Collins, Nelson and others grilled Michael Brown over his agency's largesse to residents of Florida. Florida Senator Nelson detailed numerous frauds perpetrated by Brown at FEMA. This featured over $31 million in payouts, including paying for home and car repairs, in Miami-Dade County, which had been virtually unaffected by the storms. More morose, FEMA managed to pay the costs of over 300 funerals statewide, even though medical examiners attributed only 123 to the hurricanes.

The rest, as they say, is history. Bush carried Florida over John Kerry by a surprisingly comfortable margin. As GovExec noted after election day, 2004:

"Bush later made a handful of other Florida visits to review storm-related damage, but the story on the ground was not Bush's hand-holding. Rather, it was FEMA's performance. It's impossible to know just how much of an effect FEMA had on the Florida vote...Even so, in a closely contested state where hundreds of thousands of voters suffered storm-related losses, it's equally hard to imagine that they didn't notice the agency's outreach."
As for Louisiana Governor Blanco, she shouldn't expect the Jeb treatment any time soon. In fact, portraying her and other state local officials as the bogeymen in the Katrina disaster is essential to the White House's strategy for Bush's political survival. As the AP reported on Monday, Blanco is instead already getting the Rove treatment:

"Blanco was not told when Bush would visit the state, nor was she immediately invited to meet him or travel with him. Blanco's office didn't know Bush was coming until told by reporters."
UPDATE (9/6): AP is reporting that FEMA Chief Mike Brown "waited until hours after Hurricane Katrina had already struck the Gulf Coast before asking his boss to dispatch 1,000 Homeland Security employees to the region — and gave them two days to arrive, according to internal documents." And yet, "Brownie" seems to enjoy job security.

*Jews you*

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254. "damn. i hadn't connected the two. brown and allbaugh were both"
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major campaigners for bush in 2000, which is why they were rewarded with high profile jobs for which they had no objective qualification.

they literally played politics with ppls lives, and used FEMA to distribute, in essence, payola to residents of florida. i'm gonna be ill.



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255. "yo man, many props for this."
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you never cease to amaze me. i'm actually going to volunteer for my local congressman's reelection for 2006...he's a family friend and i was talking to him on the phone...he is PISSED.

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256. "thanks."
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>you never cease to amaze me. i'm actually going to volunteer
>for my local congressman's reelection for 2006...he's a family
>friend and i was talking to him on the phone...he is PISSED.

that's dope. get you a congressman friend, then, before you know it, chuck fo' prez.

that's really good shit. please let him know ppl got his back on pressing this admin. this whole situation is mindboggling.




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258. "man eff writing...i'm CALLING my congressman..."
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he's a real good friend of my family. i'm going to have to give him a call...again...and just tell him verbally about my thoughts on this. and i KNOW FOR A FACT he feels the same way as we all do here. thank god i have a connect in congress.

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260. "please e him all the links w/ the backup (in particular, the story"
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on FEMA from last year which dealt with the changes done by this admin and how they set the stage for this catastrophe.

and it would be splendid if someone brings up the fact that these fema directors were political appointees and what that had to do with their performance in a swing state in an election year vs. in NO.


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262. "i'mma do what i can, man."
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265. "more stuff to be pissed about (and to remind your govt reps and"
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media about)

bush connected companies getting contracts to rebuild NO (iraq, anyone?). of interest is joe allbaugh, who is now a registered lobbyist for kellog brown and root, the halliburton subsidiary. remember, the same mofo who had no disaster experience before being appointed to head FEMA by bush. who picked his dimwit, horse show running ex-college roomie,michael brown to be his deputy. yeah. now he's getting PAID for his on the job gained expertise, and connections.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050910/pl_nm/contracts_dc

Firms with Bush ties snag Katrina deals

Sat Sep 10,11:03 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration's first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
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At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh,
President George W. Bush's former campaign manager and a former head of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast.

One is Shaw Group Inc. and the other is Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. Vice President
Dick Cheney is a former head of Halliburton.

Bechtel National Inc., a unit of San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., has also been selected by FEMA to provide short-term housing for people displaced by the hurricane. Bush named Bechtel's CEO to his Export Council and put the former CEO of Bechtel Energy in charge of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.

Experts say it has been common practice in both Republican and Democratic administrations for policy makers to take lobbying jobs once they leave office, and many of the same companies seeking contracts in the wake of Hurricane Katrina have already received billions of dollars for work in
Iraq.

Halliburton alone has earned more than $9 billion.
Pentagon audits released by Democrats in June showed $1.03 billion in "questioned" costs and $422 million in "unsupported" costs for Halliburton's work in Iraq.

But the web of Bush administration connections is attracting renewed attention from watchdog groups in the post-Katrina reconstruction rush. Congress has already appropriated more than $60 billion in emergency funding as a down payment on recovery efforts projected to cost well over $100 billion.

"The government has got to stop stacking senior positions with people who are repeatedly cashing in on the public trust in order to further private commercial interests," said Danielle Brian, executive director of the Project on Government Oversight.

TWO BUSH APPOINTEES AT HALLIBURTON

Allbaugh formally registered as a lobbyist for Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root in February.

In lobbying disclosure forms filed with the Senate, Allbaugh said his goal was to "educate the congressional and executive branch on defense, disaster relief and homeland security issues affecting Kellogg Brown and Root."

Melissa Norcross, a Halliburton spokeswoman, said Allbaugh has not, since he was hired, "consulted on any specific contracts that the company is considering pursuing, nor has he been tasked by the company with any lobbying responsibilities."

Allbaugh is also a friend of Michael Brown, director of FEMA who was removed as head of Katrina disaster relief and sent back to Washington amid allegations he had padded his resume.

A few months after Allbaugh was hired by Halliburton, the company retained another high-level Bush appointee, Kirk Van Tine.

Van Tine registered as a lobbyist for Halliburton six months after resigning as deputy transportation secretary, a position he held from December 2003 to December 2004.

On Friday, Kellogg Brown & Root received $29.8 million in Pentagon contracts to begin rebuilding Navy bases in Louisiana and Mississippi. Norcross said the work was covered under a contract that the company negotiated before Allbaugh was hired.

Halliburton continues to be a source of income for Cheney, who served as its chief executive officer from 1995 until 2000 when he joined the Republican ticket for the White House. According to tax filings released in April, Cheney's income included $194,852 in deferred pay from the company, which has also won billion-dollar government contracts in Iraq.

Cheney's office said the amount of deferred compensation is fixed and is not affected by Halliburton's current economic performance or earnings.

Allbaugh's other major client, Baton Rouge-based Shaw Group, has updated its Web site to say: "Hurricane Recovery Projects -- Apply Here!"

Shaw said on Thursday it has received a $100 million emergency FEMA contract for housing management and construction. Shaw also clinched a $100 million order on Friday from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

Shaw Group spokesman Chris Sammons said Allbaugh was providing the company with "general consulting on business matters," and would not say whether he played a direct role in any of the Katrina deals. "We don't comment on specific consulting activities," he said.

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267. "My letter to Michael Reagan..."
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I recently was forwarded a Michael Reagan article which can be found here:

http://www.caglecartoons.com/previewColumn.asp?columnID={50CC027C-8670-473A-BC0B-77277387F06E}


And I decided to write him an open letter. Forward this around if you feel the need. It is very long though, so be warned.

-- DECONSTRUCTING MICHAEL REAGAN --

Dear Mr. Michael Reagan;

Forget the war in Iraq. Forget gay marriage. Forget Michael Moore. Forget abortion, stem cells, and tax cuts. We've all read blogs, articles, and political cartoons bashing the President in every move he makes, justified or not. I'll admit, I'm one of those. I have my reasons. But recently, I read your article entitled "Will Somebody Say Thank You?" bashing liberals for their criticism of the President during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. This article was awfully critical of liberals, and awfully optimistic of how the President is handling this disaster. So, with that as my inspiration, I am going to tell you exactly why George W. Bush screwed up in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, and it has absolutely nothing to do with anything he's done in the past. When Fox News, Tucker Carlson, and Newt Gingrich all have some bad things to say about you - something went wrong.

First and foremost, "Will Somebody Say Thank You?" is a fallacious argument. The other day, I found an old, dusty book I used in my second or third semester of college in a philosophy class. According to this book (The Elements of Reasoning by David A. Conway, if you're actually interested) - your article is actually full of logical fallacies! One of them is the False Dilemma fallacy, in which "we are faced with choosing between two alternatives - both of which are exhaustive and exclusive...nothing exists outside of the alternatives of these alternatives". Take, for example, a quote from your article:

"These liberal scoundrels don't have it in them to thank those police, firemen, National Guardsmen, regular army soldiers, relief workers from FEMA and the Red Cross and all the others and the people in the Bush administration whose efforts are above and far beyond the call of duty.

They are too busy looking for the motes in the administration's eyes to see the huge planks in their own.

All together now, let's hear it: "Thank you President Bush, thank you Harry Connick Jr., thank you police and firemen and National Guardsmen and members of the Red Cross and Salvation Army and all you other heroes."

I understand this is an opinion piece - but has it ever occurred to you that these two things aren't exactly exclusive? Can't one be looking for the holes in what happened with this administration and also thank the police, firemen, Harry Connick Jr., etc.? Or, can one thank all those OTHER people without having to thank President Bush? Mr. Reagan, you seem to be saying you either thank the President, or are a "liberal scoundrel" who only looks for someone to blame. In addition to this being an obvious example of the False Dilemma fallacy, it is also an example of "slippery slope" logic. I'm sure you're aware of what a slippery slope is, but if not - in short - it is when one might say that a practice should not be initiated because it would lead to or encourage a more extreme practice. Again, I realize this is your opinion - but logic does come into opinions, and you seemed to disregard that.

Another one of your points is that liberals look to blame someone rather than try to lend a helping hand themselves. Celebrities, you argue, will use their status in society as a soapbox and will bash the President at any given time. The crown jewel in your argument is Sean Penn, an Academy Award winning actor who spent an entire day literally waist deep in the flood waters of Hurricane Katrina. You said, and I quote:

"Hollywood celebrity Sean Penn raced to New Orleans with his leaky boat in what became a Keystone Kops effort to rescue flood-stranded victims. He failed, but the cameras were there to record for posterity his gallantry in coming to their aid. Having lost that photo op, he launched into his usual leftist rhetoric to castigate the president, accusing the administration of criminal negligence, while his boat's engine sputtered to a stop."

Well, that's interesting Mr. Reagan...because according to the New York Daily News and presidential historian Douglas Brinkley, Penn did anything BUT fail. According to Brinkley, he personally "witnessed rescue up to 40 people" and that he "wasn't going to comment on Penn's trips to Iraq and Iran, but in this case, he is an American hero". Fascinating! Looks like Brinkley, a well respected author, separated the politics from the person. Brinkley also dismissed the "leaky boat" comment - but hey, who can believe that guy, right? I mean, he only accompanied Penn on his heroic quest to rescue the people of New Orleans. Some say that celebrities are using Hurricane Katrina as a soapbox; to talk about their political beliefs. Short of Kanye West, there hasn't been much press of celebrities doing anything of the sort. I'm not saying it hasn't happened - I'm sure it has - but there isn't much press time for it right now. Regardless, it is in poor taste to bash a guy like Sean Penn for doing something heroic. Plenty of celebrities have pitched in, had photo ops, etc. - but haven't received half of the criticism Sean Penn has because he is outspoken in his politics. It just makes me wonder about the multitudes you must have done for these victims in order to criticize a guy like Sean Penn for doing so little.

In the latest Time magazine, there is an article on how Bush will recover from this whole thing. I know you're a big Bush supporter, but this is going to be a tremendous black eye on Bush's political legacy. A man who reinvented himself in the aftermath of 9/11 is re-reinventing himself in the aftermath of another human tragedy. First and foremost, Bush said in his Wednesday addressing of the crisis that he didn't "think anybody expected" the New Orleans levees to give way. I won't bore you with the fact that scientists have been warning about what a category five hurricane could do to the Gulf Coast since at least the year 2000, but Bush and/or his advisers dropped the ball on that speech. Even former Secretary of State Colin Powell said, "I think there have been a lot of failures at a lot of levels --- local, state and federal" and went on to say "There was more than enough warning over time about the dangers to New Orleans. Not enough was done. I don't think advantage was taken of the time that was available to us, and I just don't know why". What a liberal scoundrel, that Colin Powell.

Another point you bring to the table, Mr. Reagan, is that, while "these bozos" were criticizing the President, huge caravans of trucks with food and other vital supplies were on their way to the Gulf Coast - and that we should thank the President for doing such a great job in getting them there. It's funny you should say that, Mr. Reagan. For a minute, I'm just going to ignore the throngs of people I saw begging for food on television and just go with the facts: those people didn't get food for days. DAYS! This might be tough for you to empathize with, Mr. Reagan, but I'm pretty sure those displaced weren't going to thank Bush for eventually getting food to them, and so I certainly won't either. I mean, former FEMA director Michael D. Brown acknowledged that the government "didn't know" about all those poor people in the Superdome didn't have anything in terms of supplies for days. I guess Mr. Brown didn't have a television - because I certainly knew. But hey, Bush said "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." - so I guess I should just go with it, but a few days after that, Brown was fired! I guess the crowning achievement on his resume (commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association) didn't exactly qualify him for such a job as he used to have. I can't fault him though - he's friends with the President, and I'm sure that FEMA job is pretty laid back more often than now. Now, I can hear you and your conservative friends ready to scream, "Every President appoints his friends to high positions!" or their favorite mantra, "Clinton did it!" - and you know what? They'd be right. But that doesn't mean it's okay, and it certainly doesn't take away from anyone's ability or duty to call them out on it.

Mr. Reagan, your article was one that, quite honestly, was in poor taste. Actually, I think only you, Dick Cheney, and Bush himself are the only ones publicly saying that Bush did a fine job in leading this country post-Katrina. I mean, hey - Bush's approval rating just dropped below 40% as I write this. People are angry. People are upset. People are living under a guy who is not providing leadership qualities in a time where this country desperately needs some. This is the single largest natural disaster in the history of the United States, and I suppose we are to thank the President for cutting his vacation short to fly over the damage in the Gulf Coast (only visiting after four days and lots of public outcry). This is not a partisan issue, Mr. Reagan - this is about people. You like to title your pieces "Making Sense" - but you did nothing of the sort in your latest article.

Sincerely,

Ryan Moran

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