too bad money ain' clear that last hurdle w/ his slip-an'-trip. witnesses report that po-po caught up, held him down, and put 2 (+ 3) in his head (+ back), execution-style in full view of morning subway passengers.

now bruthas is officially being warned by law enforcement not to run.

but traditionally we ain' on no long distance sh:t anyways. our natural sprint steez is being targetted. high speeds spark high alerts. they finally getting they revenge on tommy smith/john carlos, and the glove(s) is off.

i'm rollin' w/ the pimp stroll from here on out.

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British police admit shooting wrong man in hunt By Matthew Jones and Jeremy Lovell
2 hours, 24 minutes ago

Police admitted on Saturday they had shot dead the wrong man as they hunted for four men wanted for failed bomb attacks on London's transport system. Plainclothes police chased the man into an underground train station on Friday after he ignored warnings to stop. As the man boarded a train, police shot him five times at point-blank range fearing he was about to set off a bomb.

"We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents of Thursday 21st July 2005," police said on Saturday. "For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets."

Thursday's attacks killed no one, but spread alarm and fear, coming just two weeks after suicide bombers killed 52 people in similar bombings on London's transport network.

The killing had already been condemned by Muslim groups, who expressed shock at the news of the victim's innocence.

"To give license to people to shoot to kill just like that, on the basis of suspicion, is very frightening," Azzam Tamimi of the Muslim Association of Britain told BBC television.

"It is human lives that are being targeted here, whether by terrorists or in this case unfortunately by people who are supposed to be chasing or catching the terrorists."

Former London police commander John O'Connor told the BBC: "It is a shocking incident, and I think the consequences may be graver if he turns out to be a young Muslim."

SHOOT TO KILL?

The killing in front of shocked passengers on a packed underground train triggered speculation that traditionally unarmed British police had adopted a shoot-to-kill policy. Police were questioning two men were held after raids late on Friday in the Stockwell area of south London close to the site of one of Thursday's failed bombs on three underground trains and a bus -- the same targets as the July 7 bombs.

Police released closed circuit television pictures of the four suspects and appealed for the public to help find them, but warned that they were dangerous and not to be approached.

Less than 24-hours after the pictures were released police said they had received nearly 500 calls from the public.

The killing of the man took Britain's fight against terrorism to a new level of force in a country where only specialist officers carry weapons and killings by police are very rare.

DEFEND THE PUBLIC

Mayor Ken Livingstone said the duty of the police was to protect the public against people considered to be terrorist suspects, and police said they had followed the man they shot from a house under surveillance and who had run when challenged.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission said it was investigating the killing, as it did all fatal police shootings.

Analysts said police were operating under secret new guidelines, codenamed Operation Kratos, allowing them to aim for the head if they believe there was a threat to the public.

"Simple nervous system shut-down, that is the objective," said anti-terrorism expert Robert Ayers of the Royal Institute of International Affairs think-tank told Reuters.

The July 7 attacks killed 52 people and injured 700 in the worst peacetime attacks in the city's history. But on Thursday the devices failed to go off properly and no one was killed.

Because of that, police have more clues, including the unexploded bombs, eye witness reports and CCTV footage.

But security experts and the former head of London's police warned that the attacks could continue. London Mayor Livingstone warned that other so-called soft targets could also be at risk.

"People may be worried now about going on the tube, but it is quite likely the next attack will be in a pub or club or simply on a crowded street," he told Sky News television as Italian soccer club Inter Milan canceled a planned tour.

CALL FOR CALM

Details of the manhunt dominated British TV bulletins, while newspapers splashed the suspects' pictures beneath the words "The Four Most Wanted," "The Fugitives" and "Human Bombs."

Witnesses told of plain-clothes police pursuing a suspect on to a subway train carriage. He slipped as he ran and then was repeatedly shot at point-blank range as he lay on the floor.

London's police chief Ian Blair said on Friday his force faced "the greatest operational challenge" in its history.

Police refused to say if the men in custody were among the four suspects pictured in the photographs.

But the best-selling Sun tabloid said the first man arrested on Friday was suspected of trying to blow up the bus in Thursday's attempted bombings. Police declined to comment.

The Abu Hafs al Masri Brigade, an al Qaeda-linked group, has claimed responsibility for Thursday's bombings and those of July 7 and has threatened to target Italy, Denmark and the Netherlands, which also have troops in Iraq.

However, the group's claims of responsibility for previous attacks in Europe have been discredited by security experts.

Prime Minister Tony Blair appealed for calm but rejected suggestions that Britain's invasion of Iraq alongside U.S. troops in 2003 was in any way linked to the attacks.

(Additional reporting by Gideon Long, Peter Griffiths and Quentin Webb)


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Bush and them would have covered that up or ran up some phony charge on him forreal.

But on the real that is horrible. Imagine what the family is thinking now. There is going to be a major shit storm in England now.

See when folks treat their citizens like adults, instead of MRDD cases, the government HAS to be honest about shyte why lie but then again this is the US we been lying to ourselves for centuries.


in the US people let dumbshyte fly by, I say we need more of that "honesty" in the states, and yes I am a police officer and I advised MFs not to run from the police all the time.

I also tell folks that cops make mistakes, some end horribly like this and some don't, it's not rocket science.

Every agency in the MF world is profiling right now(i blame a lot on crazy MFs blowing themselves up and on some media outlets encouraging fear of brown skinned folks).

IF you happen to fit the description, the best fcuking thing to do is stay put and talk to folks, if you don't have bombs, then more than likely MFs will overlook your dime bag and pipe(depending on your country and state), running is the worst thing anyone could do: white, black, brown or other.

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they aren't terribly concerned about it.

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I mean I don't even know why theyd want to kill him when they had him on the ground. If he was really a suspect, wouldnt he be more valuable for questioning than dead?

Something just seems "off" to me.

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Mainly because of how it was reported.

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on the part of the PD. And if it seems like there could be any allegations of wrongdoing on the parts of the officers, they usually tap dance around it pretty well "an investigation is being conducted..." Later, after everybody's kinda forgotten about it, they release findings.

Here, they execute a guy and just kinda go "oops" very publicly. It doesnt fit the pattern, and it makes me think that there's some pre-meditated reason for it.

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not really

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100 more probably saw his dead body being dragged out on a stretcher. it wasn't like it happened in the middle of nowhere. they (the police) have to comment on what happened. it was going to make it to the papers regardless.

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an unfortunate situation nonetheless.

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i been arrested off the sprint myself.

it's certainly not the best course of action on (white) paper, but when your guilt ain' a variable in your victimisation, experience overtakes on the inside lane.


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and there's the sprint, wearing a thick coat in 70+ degree weather in an area where you know police are thick and tension is running high because of attempted terrorist attacks having occurred in the last 24 hours (and successful ones having happened two weeks prior).

like i said.. very unfortunate. but that's like walking blindfolded across the freeway at rush hour- a negative outcome can be pretty easily predicted.

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>but that's like walking
>blindfolded across the freeway at rush hour

and that's an incredibly poor comparison.

the (blindfold + walking + freeway + rush hour = running over) formula doesn't equate to (sprinting + coat + previous earlier attacks = being shot @ point blank range).


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in that they're both incredibly fucking stupid things to do, and if you do them you're inviting harm upon yourself.

if you need to paint the guy as somehow noble, fine. but this isn't a question of what should or shouldn't happen- it's a matter of what can be predicted, and by leaving his common sense at home he had a big hand in his own death.

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i believe so!

and i expect it might work for you. for me and mine, standing still on some medusa sh:t has never been a guarantee to avoid unjust law enforcement attention.

>in that they're both incredibly fucking stupid things to do,
>and if you do them you're inviting harm upon yourself.

imsayin', the freeway example certainly is. but insisting we restrict ourselves to an internal speedometer is ludicrous. but run w/ your on-paper theory should you choose to (just accept that any blak people you ask to join you will be late on account of the enforced slow legal stroll).

>if you need to paint the guy as somehow noble, fine.

nah, just innocent. i'm nonplussed as to where you draw any such supposed need of nobility from what i type.

>but this
>isn't a question of what should or shouldn't happen-

actually, it is. we ain' ready to relinquish our running rights _just_ yet.

>it's a
>matter of what can be predicted, and by leaving his common
>sense at home he had a big hand in his own death.

not nearly as big a hand as those that

- tackled him
- held him down
- "unloaded into his back" © eyewitness

because the young motherfucker 'ran'.


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because i'm fully aware that this has never come up for me, and probably never will. i can even attempt to understand the urge to run, although i don't think i'll really get there, especially because the vast majority of people are able to control that urge.

but this didn't start at the moment he started running. it may have started with him being brazilian and probably mistaken for a member of the muslim community- but i guarantee you he wasn't the only dark-skinned man in the tube that day. his own suspicious dress and behavior- regardless of what the justifications may have been- drew the attention to HIM out of all people. we can go around in circles about this, but we won't- my final word on it is that dude should have known better, and probably did.

as far as relinquishing "running rights".. this is exactly what i'm talking about. frankly, if you haven't relinquished them yet, or at least recognized that pragmatism dictates that you should, you're a dumb motherfucker. you KNOW the potential and guaranteed consequences. there are ideal situations, there are shouldacouldawouldas, and there's the way things work. it DOES NOT mean that it's not wrong, and it doesn't mean we shouldn't work to change it, but there isn't a person in this country that doesn't know how it goes and that it hasn't been changed yet. if somebody has this information and chooses to act in opposition.. there's some personal responsibility involved.

there is always context. there are always multiple players. this isn't big bad police force murders perfectly blameless man. this is human police force given the responsibility of protecting a city that is without question under a serious threat, and trying to do just that when they end the life of a human man who is trying to live his own life and has his own motivations for why exactly he did the stupid shit he did that day, and we'll never know what those are. there's not enough recognition of grey here. what would we say if they had indeed uncovered a bomb strapped to the corpse? what would we say if they didn't shoot or hadn't stopped to question a man wearing a bulky coat in july and there was a bomb detonated, killing twenty more people? if we agree that this was too much, can we talk about better ways to subdue a possible suicide bomber, instead of deadly force? would it be easier to understand both sides if this had happened in our neighborhood, on our way to work?

eh. this is probably the first time in five years that i've been on the same side of an issue as suavebro, but even with well-earned distrust of police, the reaction here is much too one-sided.

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>but this didn't start at the moment he started running. it may have >started with him being brazilian and probably mistaken for a member of >the muslim community- but i guarantee you he wasn't the only >dark-skinned man in the tube that day. his own suspicious dress and >behavior- regardless of what the justifications may have been- drew the >attention to HIM out of all people. we can go around in circles about >this, but we won't- my final word on it is that dude should have known >better, and probably did.

there was a report of the same armed police puttting a gun to the head of the TUBE driver who was driving the train, because he was running from the same melee, he was Asian, the London Underground uniforms are distinctive, which leaves smart people to conclude that they were sticking up anyone who looked remotely Asian loooking...

Socialization for a black kid in a inner city area in London (as Stockwell is). Wise words from my uncle, when dealing with police "Mikey, if you have a chance to run, RUN, because you are gonna get a beating whichever way it happens... Sheeeit, do you know how many times when I was younger I have been bludegon with a truncheon and I ain't done fuck all. Times have change a litte since then I must say, but not much...

Dude did what most folks of colour would do, when you have 5-10 burly white dudes rushing towards you shouting "Get down, get down"

Naaah fuck that I'm off on my toes mate....

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is that he was followed from a house that was being surveilled. assuming he didn't jog the whole way, the ordeal started long before he took off running.

>there was a report of the same armed police puttting a gun to
>the head of the TUBE driver who was driving the train, because
>he was running from the same melee, he was Asian, the London
>Underground uniforms are distinctive, which leaves smart
>people to conclude that they were sticking up anyone who
>looked remotely Asian loooking...

i haven't read/heard anything about this- do you have a link? i mean.. it sounds like they were putting a gun to the head of anyone remotely asian looking that happened to be running away from them. =\ are you suggesting that the fact that he's employed by LU should absolve him from any scrutiny? smart terrorists want to fit in.

>Socialization for a black kid in a inner city area in London
>(as Stockwell is). Wise words from my uncle, when dealing
>with police "Mikey, if you have a chance to run, RUN, because
>you are gonna get a beating whichever way it happens...
>Sheeeit, do you know how many times when I was younger I have
>been bludegon with a truncheon and I ain't done fuck all.
>Times have change a litte since then I must say, but not
>much...
>
>Dude did what most folks of colour would do, when you have
>5-10 burly white dudes rushing towards you shouting "Get down,
>get down"

like i said.. i can't ever really relate to this, but i can try to put myself in his shoes. we all have fight or flight response, and it's hard to knock it 100%, especially if/because the cops were plainclothes. but again- dude distinguished himself from any and all other people of color that were in the tube for reasons other than his speed, before that speed was a factor. it's all crazy fucked up and should be investigated thoroughly. i just can't lay the blame squarely on either side. that's all i've been trying to say.

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but dialogue (and i use the term loosely) like this, tends to persuade me otherwise.

imsayin', we're typing @ cross purposes. i'm explaining my experience (wh/ is almost certainly closer to the deceased than yours). in response, you seem to tightrope-walk a mild acceptance of your cultural distance, while still gripping your notion that a one-size-fits-all reasonableness is the yardstick for all monochromatic situations.

>his own
>suspicious dress and behavior- regardless of what the
>justifications may have been- drew the attention to HIM out of
>all people.

your perspective is still staggeringly blak and white. his dress/alleged behaviour and reaction (like a cornered animal © bystander) were in no way logical lead-ins to the end result.

>as far as relinquishing "running rights".. this is exactly
>what i'm talking about. frankly, if you haven't relinquished
>them yet, or at least recognized that pragmatism dictates that
>you should, you're a dumb motherfucker.

presumably, you'd stand motionless if a group of blak males in civilian clothes ran toward you in the ghetto, brandishing a firearm. and you're quite the smart motherfucker.

>you KNOW the potential
>and guaranteed consequences. there are ideal situations, there
>are shouldacouldawouldas, and there's the way things work. it
>DOES NOT mean that it's not wrong, and it doesn't mean we
>shouldn't work to change it, but there isn't a person in this
>country that doesn't know how it goes and that it hasn't been
>changed yet. if somebody has this information and chooses to
>act in opposition.. there's some personal responsibility
>involved.

plain. clothes. gun. ghetto.

your cultural (colour, creed and country) removes you fatally far from this experience. yet you still refuse to acknowledge that.

>there's not enough
>recognition of grey here.

there's plenty. it's an extreme situation and should be judged w/ prejudice. apprehending him? holding him w/out evidence? there are several other civil rights violations that could be shaded grey in such tense civic circumstances. executing money pointblank in full view, w/ impunity?

>what would we say if (etc etc)

shall we accept this as a developing trend? shall we leapfrog any challenges of near-certain racial profiling in order to accept arbitrary shoot-to-kill policing policies? shall we understand when a 12-year-old child excitedly on the way to school receives the same two taps to the dome? no, let's not have fun sliding down the scale just yet.


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the guy was probably mentally unstable...for all we know..maybe he was Autistic (spelling)

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but i also thought they would just make some shit up on this poor kid but no, just blatently like 'yeah we fucked up' there will surely be repercussions

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is it better that they admitted they fucked up rather than try and cover it or pin a false charge on him? or does it seem too nonchalant the way that they just threw up their hands and were like "our fault. sorry bout that."?

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they can't win either way, of course. and we'll always lose.

ultimately, any honesty is eclipsed by their complete lack of concern for potential repurcussions, on some untouchable sh:t. the latter gives way to far more immediate problems for us than their ongoing duplicity.


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BUT
>too nonchalant the way that they just threw up their hands and
>were like "our fault. sorry bout that."?

Yes. Waaaay too nonchalant and k.i.m. imo
they took a life, what that's it?

and they have no plans to stop the procedure that caused it
nor do they seem to have any plans to prevent another mistaken identity...
who us...racial profile?
no no no
just an accident


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i WAS calm
now i'm freaked
shit i pass for egyptian
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damn

how you gonna be calm when muthas is gunning for you?
that fight or flight instinct is no joke

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