I am in the ultimate privileged position. I am a rich white American male. I say this because it’s gotten this bad, where I’m scared that even my bubble could burst. And I’m terrified to what happens to people who aren’t me.

I’m a former political science professor. I was paid to have measured takes about the political system and to be fair to all range of student opinions. And right now I have no measured takes.

Donald Trump is so terrifying. This is what Hitler looked like in 1932, except scarier, because his party already has a supermajority in the tiebreaker branch, the Supreme Court. And my side has absolutely no weapons.

Political science again: we have every warning sign that we will fall into autocracy, if not fascism. If we lose this election, the levers of democracy may be lost. Our choices right now suck, but if this election goes wrong, we may cease to have choices.

Please vote for Biden. He sucks, but it doesn’t matter I don’t care if you don’t care if you’re mad your person lost the primaries or what. See what happened with ACB, and listen to what Trump says. They mean it, family. The lines you have to stand in are unfathomable, and I beg you to stand in them anyway. Anything less than an overwhelming victory will be subject to Republican bullshit, and they control all the levers of power.

I don’t know, man. This is historically terrifying shit, and I got the degrees to prove it. Please, please, please vote.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

No message board shit. We’re on the precipice

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

NUTHING has happened

an AG is acting as a presidents personal lawyer etc..they deny a supreme court nom in Obamas administration term but flip to move this one in hypocritically with a republican administration..they in public attempt to suppress votes...they have an obvious biased and probably racist post master general ..they want to erase health care, civil rights laws, .I mean all these things and half the country WANT this to continue etc. No one has been arrested or denounced for ny of these things. All we have is Rachel Maddow and them saying the people are bad as democracy has already BEEN erased. This began with Tea party bs. It really began then and its fucked now even if Biden wins.

>No message board shit. We’re on the precipice

what do you mean by over?

as a global super power?

as a country?

the lights are still on, money is still in the bank, the machines are still humming.

I don't see it.

When I say I dont see it, I mean, I can't imagine how it fails becuase of the vast dependencies in financial markets, military activity, foreign policy matters...

where is the break down infrastructure?


I guess, when I hear the terms "america" and "over", I think of destroyed supply chains, insolvency, a demotivated populace, clean water, absolute lack of allies...a place that is unable to sustain basic needs.

destruction would have to be an all hands on deck effort by all countries attacking at once (attack by violent and non violent means) with expressed continuity plans (aight, you do cars and soybeans, I got airplanes and weapons)for it to make sense.

or maybe i'm just overthinking it and you don't mean over in the way I think you do.

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The nation isn’t just bodies and gravel and lakes. The nation is an idea. We have always stood for three things: liberty, equality, and racism. That they conflict only means our Founding ideals conflict and were authored by nothing but white men.

But anyway, here’s an election where the third could eliminate the first two. That will eventually show up in the quality of the roads and the timeliness of the trains, but the biggest loss will be the loss of freedom to testify. We are slowly but surely moving towards an absolute state that forbids any discourse that does not praise it. The ability to agitate for oppressed people will disappear. A vote for Biden doesn’t stop that, but a vote for Trump or a failure to vote accelerates it.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

the fact that it took things to get this bad...

the fact that you don't think your "bubble" needs racism and inequality to exist

the fact that you aren't destroying "your bubble" on your own cuz that shit is toxic and harmful to all of us

the fact that you're terrified NOW about what happens to people that aren't you, mainly BECAUSE you know the shit is coming for you next...

the fact that you telling US...FUCKING US to vote...

the utter selfishness and solipsism of all that

respectfully, bshelly?

FUCK YOU. and every fucking rich white privileged motherfucker just like you who is scared NOW



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This, however, is a different level. This scared is because the wrong choice now has the potential to take away all choice, all chance of things even getting marginally better. we’ve never had a candidate who could end democracy before in my lifetime. We do now.

And, frankly, all that bullshit you typed is just that. You don’t know a damn thing about what I have and haven’t done in my life, and I certainly won’t justify myself to you.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

i said what i said.

you opened with "i'm at the highest level of privilege" and omg my bubble

so please.

i don't need you to justify yourself to me at all.

and i also don't need you to whitesplain to me how much of a threat another 4 years of trump is cuz i'm an actual Black woman, with Black sons...this shit threatens my existence in a way it doesnt for you (gee, is your right to vote a constitutional amendement? is your freedom a constitutional amendement? oh)

so fuck you again.

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I don’t know bshelly or his political views.

Unless he has been out here banging against Biden and voting Dem I don’t see the issue with his “confession”

Def don’t understand the “oh.. now you scared FUCK YOU”

I know emotions are high but shit, people out here banging on each other because they aren’t being upset the right way is weird af.

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>
>I know emotions are high but shit, people out here banging on
>each other because they aren’t being upset the right way is
>weird af.
>
>

You would have thought he posted #MAGA #KAG #ALLLIVESMATTER #BACKTHEBLUE. Hell, I don't think the reaction would be any different if he did.

If he didn't disclose his race, this would have been popping like any other trump pile-on

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>>I know emotions are high but shit, people out here banging
>on
>>each other because they aren’t being upset the right way
>is
>>weird af.
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>You would have thought he posted #MAGA #KAG #ALLLIVESMATTER
>#BACKTHEBLUE. Hell, I don't think the reaction would be any
>different if he did.
>


Lmao

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I don't know Dude from a Can of Paint but he's not incorrect or saying things the majority of the rest of this board haven't been saying the last 4 years.

This IS a scary fucking moment.

A large voter turnout for Biden IS necessary to have any chance of Trump not just declaring himself the victor, further sinking the country into Fascism

Those 2 facts don't stop being true just because you don't like the person who said it.


There were multiple posts recently saying White Posters should Identify themselves and provide the context from which they're approaching subjects, well here we are.

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

but that was for Black topics where white folks were hiding their hand and wouldn’t admit their skin tone while having all the solutions for Black people.

but this right here.. Ionno.

Though dude was just getting shit off his chest.

That shit went left.. quick fast.

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>I don’t know bshelly or his political views.
>
>Unless he has been out here banging against Biden and voting
>Dem I don’t see the issue with his “confession”
>
>Def don’t understand the “oh.. now you scared FUCK YOU”
>

"I say this because it’s gotten this bad, where I’m scared that even my bubble could burst."

^^^^^^ You don't understand the problem with that ?

>I know emotions are high but shit, people out here banging on
>each other because they aren’t being upset the right way is
>weird af.
>
>

"Please vote for Biden. He sucks, but it doesn’t matter I don’t care if you don’t care if you’re mad your person lost the primaries or what. See what happened with ACB, and listen to what Trump says. They mean it, family. The lines you have to stand in are unfathomable, and I beg you to stand in them anyway. Anything less than an overwhelming victory will be subject to Republican"

When Pimp (who would go to the White House) is in here downplaying it and co-signing the op, that should tell you everything you need to know.

The op said now it's a problem and scary and bad. He could live with it and offered measure takes when people outside his bubble was catching hell but now it's time to hit red alert, since his bubble is at risk.

Crack vs Opioids

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I didn’t read it that way but I guess I can see why it upsets some people.

I think people are impacted differently based on finances times or race so obviously everyone isn’t going to feel it at the same time.

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he made sure to include rich and white to let us know this was real

like we're supposed to empathize or understand his potential plight

it reads like the same logic as "stop complaining about how America treats blacks, we're all in this together" aka All Lives Matter

miss me with this fake outrage

Y’all mad at the wrong person.

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RE: Remember when you asked “what’s so bad about Trump?”

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13393327&mesg_id=13393327&listing_type=search#13393443

I didnt ask what was bad about Trump

you said "Im worried about the election"

I said another four years wont make America any better or worse for black people no matter who's in office.



>miss me with this fake outrage

what fake outrage (on my part)? a rich white man is complaining (to black people) about how he'll be affected, you seem to think that should go without backlash

>Y’all mad at the wrong person.

who should I be mad at regarding this post?

How do you link to this acting like I lied on you? Lmao. It’s right there. It’s actually worse. You admitted that it’s fine if Trump wins because Biden might be just as bad or worse.

and you should be mad at people who vote for Trump or don’t have an issue with him winning..

or you know, people who don’t vote at all.


so it’s wild af for YOU to come at dude when you don’t give a fuck if Trump wins because you don’t think Biden is any better.

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RE: what's so bad about another four years and how is Biden any better?"

>How do you link to this acting like I lied on you? Lmao.
>It’s right there. It’s actually worse. You admitted that
>it’s fine if Trump wins because Biden might be just as bad
>or worse.

"it's the same difference for black people" does not mean "Im okay with Trump winning" or "Im okay with Biden losing"

I've literally never taken a positive or negative stance on either of them on here


>and you should be mad at people who vote for Trump or don’t
>have an issue with him winning..
>or you know, people who don’t vote at all.

I dont waste energy reacting to political beliefs I have no control over



>so it’s wild af for YOU to come at dude when you don’t
>give a fuck if Trump wins because you don’t think Biden is
>any better.

again, I didnt say "I dont care if Trump wins", I spoke realistically on how either scenario affects life for my people. you seem to be offended that I take issue with a rich white guy panicking over how he's affected in 2020, as if black suffering was never a cause for concern in this country

at best, you're defending a selfish prick. maybe you're just bored and trolling per usual

You never said a word about Black people in that post you linked to.

You indeed said “what’s so bad about another 4 years and how is Biden any better”

Never said one thing about Black people in that post. You showed us who you were and how you felt about Trump and Biden. Don’t switch up now because you saw rich white man and act like you are invested in this shit.

Have you voted yet?

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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13393327&mesg_id=13393327&listing_type=search#13393471


>You never said a word about Black people in that post you
>linked to.
>
>You indeed said “what’s so bad about another 4 years and
>how is Biden any better”
>
>Never said one thing about Black people in that post. You
>showed us who you were and how you felt about Trump and Biden.
>Don’t switch up now because you saw rich white man and act
>like you are invested in this shit.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I took offense to a self described rich white man acting like shit is just now bad

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It’s an easy question to answer.

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You always jumping in convos and then screaming about being bothered or harassed.

Notice how you still haven’t answered the question tho.

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you immediately took it to a weird place where you lied about me supposedly being okay with Trump winning, that's how we got here. I dont expect accountability from you though


I dont owe anyone a discussion on my political beliefs though, especially not when it's irrelevant to white privilege

my thoughts and feelings don't need your fucking validation asshole

like who the fuck are you?

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to a white man

HOW DARE YOU!

*rally the coon troops!*

the fragility of a white man has been admonished!!!

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puttin' the roota in the toota since 98'

bshelly don't even have to come back to the post

he chillin in his fucking endangered bubble.

meanwhile, "damali's crazy as always" LOL


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>I am in the ultimate privileged position. I am a rich white
>American male.

it speaks volumes when people think America was a great place to live until Trump's election

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

black generations survived slavery, Jim Crow/KKK, the civil rights era, crack, police, the prison system and every other conspiracy designed for our extermination, and you're crying about how hard it might be next year as a rich white man

And repeating the most salient features of Hannah Arendt's examination of totalitarianism. Here are just a few of her quotes, which are disturbing relevant today:

“Before mass leaders seize the power to fit reality to their lies, their propaganda is marked by its extreme contempt for facts as such, for in their opinion fact depends entirely on the power of man who can fabricate it.”

"The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exist."

“If everybody always lies to you, the consequence is not that you believe the lies, but rather that nobody believes anything any longer...And with such a people you can then do what you please.”

"for those characterized by isolation and lack of social relationships, it's through surrendering their individual selves to ideology that rediscover their purpose & self-respect”

"Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow."

“One could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism ... and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.”

Thank you.

Somebody actually is paying attention.

there's a lotta different ways to get the point across without expecting black folks to bail out whatever subgroups of white people yet again because the shit's smearing on their particular fan blades at the moment.

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and most have probably voted already. If they wanted to just commiserate about the world burning, then that's one thing; but that first post just isn't a good luck.

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lord grant me the myopia of a privileged white man.

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that one really touches a nerve with me the way I see it thrown around usually.

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Everything you're fearful of happening to you, Biden & the Dems have implemented against my community for *decades*.

And the fact that you feel comfortable coming on a message board that's supposedly mostly black with this mealy mouthed bullshit, when the odds are HALF of your rich white familial & social circle voted for trump is hella telling.
Go beg your family and friends. GTFO my face with this shit

Dont bring that i'm a rich white man woe is me shit oh please my bubble is bursting, y'all people please vote! shit up in here

Black people historically vote in EXTREMELY high numbers WHILE we have historically been beaten, killed and cheated out of our vote, time and time again, up until this very day

the stakes are HIGHEST in this election for Black people so we get to decide how we vote OURSELVES and don't need anybody telling us shit

and lastly, bshelly been here FOR DECADES, long enough to know this board is MAJORITY BLACK so he knew who the fuck his audience was.

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you didn’t have to attack him like that.

>you didn’t have to attack him like that.

HE
IS
A
RICH
WHITE
MAN

HE
WILL
BE
FINE.

fuck outta here with that bullshit...no white person is a true ally if they can't handle legitimate Black rage directed at they racist, privileged bullshit when they spew it

and lastly, you must not know what the word attack means if you think that was one LOL

please. *shoo*

d

you don’t speak for all black people

so yeah...

we all don’t agree with your ass...

>you don’t speak for all black people
>
>so yeah...
>
>we all don’t agree with your ass...

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and where did i say i speak for Black people?

as usual, you just making up dumb shit to reply.

d

"I better go warn them black folks I used to kick it with...."

I couldn't even muster the energy to reply when I saw the post a few days ago lol....
Damali got ALL the energy... and for that...I'm thankful.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

its not like he's been away from okp

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God