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"Navy Secretary forced out, causes division in military b/c of Trump"
Mon Nov-25-19 12:15 PM by Case_One

          

This is a big deal that can metastasize into a major issue across the armed services. I know for a fact that the Morale of at the bottom due to this president. The armed services are failing to reach their recruitment and retention numbers. Mess like this can cause us to look weak to your adversaries and allies.



Navy Secretary forced out after Trump's war crimes intervention causes division and chaos in military

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/24/politics/pentagon-mark-esper-richard-spencer/index.html



"I cannot in good conscience obey an order that I believe violates the sacred oath I took in the presence of my family, my flag and my faith to support and defend the Constitution of the United States," Spencer wrote in his letter to the President acknowledging his termination.



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Any Comments or Opinions?
Nov 25th 2019
1
Trump is a piece of shit
Nov 25th 2019
2
      lmao!
Nov 25th 2019
4
      Man you tried to pretzel twist this for no reason.
Nov 26th 2019
9
      Christian and facist?
Nov 26th 2019
11
           Folks just be saying anything
Nov 26th 2019
12
           So are most cops, and yet....
Nov 27th 2019
24
LoL.......
Nov 25th 2019
3
#45 need to STFU
Nov 25th 2019
7
What?
Nov 26th 2019
10
he'll probably still vote for Trump
Nov 25th 2019
5
Damn. Cause you probably right.
Nov 25th 2019
6
All this division only helps COBRA
Nov 26th 2019
8
It's G.I. Joe against COBRA and Destro - fighting to save the day..
Nov 26th 2019
13
      ^^^ has won half the battle
Nov 26th 2019
14
How a North Carolina man joined the global nexus of white supremacist ex...
Nov 27th 2019
15
Neo Nazi Boot: Inside One Marine's Descent into Extremism
Nov 27th 2019
16
DAMN
Nov 27th 2019
31
Coast Guard Officer Pleads Guilty to Gun and Drug Charges
Nov 27th 2019
17
White Nationalism Remains a Problem for the Military
Nov 27th 2019
18
7 US Military Members Identified as Part of White Nationalist Group
Nov 27th 2019
19
Military Investigating 4 More Servicemen For Ties To White Nationalist G...
Nov 27th 2019
20
4 White Nationalists Out Of U.S. Military — But Others Allowed To Rema...
Nov 27th 2019
21
Inside the Military's Battle with White Supremacy
Nov 27th 2019
22
Does the American Military Have a Problem with Far-Right Extremism?
Nov 27th 2019
23
@ navajo joe, Have you severed in the military or worked a corporate job...
Nov 27th 2019
25
Engage with the information or don't
Nov 27th 2019
26
      PREACH (pun intended)
Nov 27th 2019
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      *INSERT CRYING LAUGHING EMOJI*
Nov 30th 2019
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      GOD DAMNNNN
Nov 27th 2019
28
      Save the ad-hominem playa. I know it plays well to the crowd.
Nov 27th 2019
29
      STOP EDITING! THROW IN THE DAMN TOWEL!!!!
Nov 29th 2019
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      to borrow a phrase from my LGBTQ folks: THAT WAS A READ!
Nov 27th 2019
30
      This was poetry.
Nov 27th 2019
32
      lmao ROASTED
Nov 27th 2019
33
      Best new thanksgiving recipe I’ve seen this year.
Nov 28th 2019
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      Archived!
Dec 17th 2019
40
Thread on exposed white nationalists in US/Canadian military
Nov 29th 2019
36
Psh stop just saying anything.
Nov 29th 2019
37
you're too informed for this kind of post
Dec 01st 2019
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1. "Any Comments or Opinions?"
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2. "Trump is a piece of shit"
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And the military has been growing ever more "Christian" and facists for the last 30 years.

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4. "lmao!"
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9. "Man you tried to pretzel twist this for no reason."
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11. "Christian and facist?"
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Man, most people in the military just trying to get some bread for college or trying to live a better life.

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12. "Folks just be saying anything"
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24. "So are most cops, and yet...."
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you probably wouldn't use the good old 'few bad apples' argument to try and dismiss police brutality

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3. "LoL......."
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special team marines in an uproar bcs they can't kill civilians and surrendering combatants with no abandon?

this will be a blip for the rank and file

the real issue is with the high ranking officials, the way court martials will be viewed against the commander in chief etc.

trump tried to work around on a judgement that was actually good for the civilian killer

and now is making a mockery of the military judicial system

which has caused a split in the top brass

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7. "#45 need to STFU"
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it sets a bad example to let Gallagher go unchecked. Spencer pu$$ied out. You can't have it both ways. Now you lost ya job AND you look like a sucker.

sad.

you hate to see it.

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10. "What?"
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5. "he'll probably still vote for Trump"
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6. "Damn. Cause you probably right. "
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8. "All this division only helps COBRA"
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13. "It's G.I. Joe against COBRA and Destro - fighting to save the day.."
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...he never gives up - he's always there....

  

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14. "^^^ has won half the battle"
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15. "How a North Carolina man joined the global nexus of white supremacist ex..."
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https://indyweek.com/news/longform/craig-lang-ukraine-murder-white-supremacist/

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16. "Neo Nazi Boot: Inside One Marine's Descent into Extremism"
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https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019/09/04/the-neo-nazi-boot-inside-one-marines-descent-into-extremism/

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17. "Coast Guard Officer Pleads Guilty to Gun and Drug Charges"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/christopher-hasson-coast-guard-white-supremacist.html

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18. "White Nationalism Remains a Problem for the Military "
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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/28/white-nationalism-remains-a-problem-for-the-military-poll-shows/

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19. "7 US Military Members Identified as Part of White Nationalist Group"
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white-nationalists-military-identity-evropa_n_5c8ab70ae4b0d7f6b0f1094b

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20. "Military Investigating 4 More Servicemen For Ties To White Nationalist G..."
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white-nationalists-military-identity-evropa_n_5cc1a87ee4b0764d31dd839c

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21. "4 White Nationalists Out Of U.S. Military — But Others Allowed To Rema..."
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/white-nationalists-military-kicked-out-huffpost-investigation_n_5d4b0f83e4b0066eb70b9945

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22. "Inside the Military's Battle with White Supremacy"
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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/inside-u-s-military-s-battle-white-supremacy-far-right-ncna1010221

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23. "Does the American Military Have a Problem with Far-Right Extremism?"
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https://psmag.com/social-justice/does-the-american-military-have-a-problem-with-far-right-extremism

Image Caption: U.S. Marines pose with a SS Flag in 2012.

Last month, a Coast Guard officer was arrested after an investigation discovered he was stockpiling weapons and preparing to attack politicians in Washington, D.C. The story of his arrest reignited a national debate about how American law enforcement approaches far-right domestic terrorism. But it also highlights a more specific link, publicly acknowledged by the Department of Homeland Security in 2009, between far-right domestic terrorism and United States military personnel and veterans.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the DHS, the agencies responsible for gathering information on and investigating domestic terror groups, once had task forces focused specifically on far-right-wing terrorism. In 2009 the DHS released a report on right-wing terrorism that highlighted the threat of far-right groups recruiting veterans to their extremist causes. Conservative politicians and media outlets jumped on the report, decrying it as an unfair assessment of both conservative groups and disrespectful toward American veterans. The backlash was so severe that the then head of the DHS, Janet Napolitano, publicly apologized for the report and dismantled the team responsible for tracking far-right threats.....

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25. "@ navajo joe, Have you severed in the military or worked a corporate job..."
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I'm trying to understand your reason for posting about White Supremacist in the Military as is this is something that should be shocking.



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26. "Engage with the information or don't"
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The fact that you tried to make this about me when that is neither relevant to what you said above nor to the information in the articles provided is yet another indication of your inability to engage with anything that even remotely challenges you to think. That you would assume I find racism in the military to be shocking or surprising only further reflects your limitations. Nice try, I have one of several seats for you to choose from.

The links provided are to show that there is in fact that there has been a rise of far-right extremism within the military and that people are not just saying 'any old thing'

I know you're Pastor Contrarian crusader for domestic abusers and molesters and that you'll cape for anything because you fundamentally lack scruples but miss me with that shit.

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29. "Save the ad-hominem playa. I know it plays well to the crowd. "
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I just asked you a simple question since you act like White Nationalism is something new in the military.

You can save all the hurt feelings and unresolved aggression. That mess doesn't move me in any manner of being. The fact that you still didn't answer the question is more Trumpian than anything and tell me about your fragile mindset.

But go on and shake those bells playa, you need all the attention you can get.





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>I know you're Pastor Contrarian crusader for domestic abusers
>and molesters and that you'll cape for anything because you
>fundamentally lack scruples but miss me with that shit.
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33. "lmao ROASTED"
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36. "Thread on exposed white nationalists in US/Canadian military"
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https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1200591451265961984

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37. "Psh stop just saying anything."
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Amritsar
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39. "you're too informed for this kind of post "
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