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"Game Of Thrones Season 8 (part 2)"


  

          




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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We fittin to talk about this starbucks cup?
May 06th 2019
1
mistakes happen LOL!..
May 06th 2019
3
RE: mistakes happen LOL!..
May 06th 2019
4
the DP said he knows there's no Starbucks cup because he shot it
May 06th 2019
5
lmao
May 06th 2019
11
LOL
May 06th 2019
22
The really annoying part is the cardboard sleeve.
May 06th 2019
8
      ^^^this is the best thing I've ever read on the internet!!
May 07th 2019
99
      hilarious
May 15th 2019
506
right all this was hella stupid...:
May 06th 2019
2
I think the pregnancy complicates the Cersei thing
May 06th 2019
13
RE: I think the pregnancy complicates the Cersei thing
May 06th 2019
24
      RE: I think the pregnancy complicates the Cersei thing
May 06th 2019
34
all of that.
May 06th 2019
86
Will Bran be unmasked as the Lord Of Light?
May 06th 2019
6
we DO?
May 06th 2019
7
Well, they were brought back from death.
May 06th 2019
9
RE: we DO?
May 06th 2019
14
Is the Lord of Light the only religion they've implied might be true?
May 06th 2019
27
      RE: Is the Lord of Light the only religion they've implied might be true...
May 06th 2019
32
           Forgot the Many Faced God
May 06th 2019
35
                RE: Forgot the Many Faced God
May 06th 2019
53
Missandei: Dracarys! Drogon: Now? Nah I'm good back here.
May 06th 2019
10
Shit still got me sick.
May 06th 2019
12
Word. That Dragon didn't want any parts of that conversation.
May 06th 2019
15
LOL, yeah, I had to watch to see if he perked up his head,
May 06th 2019
16
lol nah that was for dany not drogon.
May 06th 2019
38
Her dying act was to echo the mad king to burn them all. Nice smh
May 06th 2019
41
i think Tyrion serves up Varys
May 06th 2019
17
RE: i think Tyrion serves up Varys
May 06th 2019
19
Yeah, and Varys already threw Tryrion under the bus once
May 06th 2019
20
And I still think Tyrion is coming around to Varys's side.
May 06th 2019
21
I think he's hears Varys' side but also realizes Varys ain't shit.
May 06th 2019
23
I don't really remember all their background.
May 06th 2019
29
      yeah he testified that Tyrion threatened Joffrey
May 06th 2019
31
Man I kept thinking a democracy will be how this show ends
May 06th 2019
46
      I'm just fuckin around. I don't actually expect that.
May 06th 2019
49
You called it.
May 13th 2019
264
So much tension in that ep
May 06th 2019
18
Dany's heel turn would be more believable
May 06th 2019
25
i mean she is kinda losing everything
May 06th 2019
28
Yeah, she's not unreasonable at all
May 06th 2019
30
If they'd mapped out enough time for all the nuance,
May 06th 2019
33
      Oh man, THIS 100%
May 06th 2019
36
      Lol she never had such noble intentions. It was always her own glory.
May 06th 2019
48
           I'd say the show directly and completely refutes that statement .
May 06th 2019
55
                yeah its unfair because it implies she's basically just like her brother
May 06th 2019
60
                     She's arguably worse, because he was honest about his selfishness
May 06th 2019
78
Absolutely. I don't even see a hell turn
May 06th 2019
54
      me neither, i think it's just a constant tease
May 06th 2019
58
      Me neither. Her heel turn was S2. Since then, its just been pregression
May 06th 2019
77
They been setting it up since S2...every1 just refused to see it
May 06th 2019
44
Right. Dany has always been terrible at governing and politics
May 06th 2019
61
Yup.
May 06th 2019
72
      RE: Yup.
May 06th 2019
73
I like that the show had her point out how different Westeros is
May 06th 2019
71
100%
May 15th 2019
507
I feel like IF GRRM finishes this shit, it won't go down like this at al...
May 06th 2019
26
imo... best ending would have been an undead victory
May 06th 2019
52
supposedly GRRM consulted with the producers.
May 07th 2019
105
So, will Grey Worm kill the Mountain?
May 06th 2019
37
That could be a cool action sequence even tho i wanted Arya to
May 06th 2019
42
he's not on Arya's list
May 06th 2019
59
      Yeah but Cersei is, and he guards her. I was thinking more
May 06th 2019
81
      Wait, didn't the Mountain carry out Ned's execution?
May 06th 2019
92
           Nah, that was Ser Ilyn Payne.
May 07th 2019
98
                Ah, thanks.
May 07th 2019
100
                and hes podrick's cousin right? what happened to him?
May 07th 2019
111
                     I think the actor died in real life
May 08th 2019
121
                          Wilko Johnson (Payne) has been battling cancer but he's still alive.
May 09th 2019
128
the hound might kill greyworm if he did
May 06th 2019
43
Himself
May 06th 2019
45
There's gonna be a line out the door to kill The Mountain.
May 06th 2019
51
As alluded to in the previous post, the "Who will sit on the Iron Throne...
May 06th 2019
39
Yeah, I think at this point we can all give zero shits if Dany takes the...
May 06th 2019
47
That would be dope, independence for all
May 06th 2019
50
Completely forgot they mentioned a new prince in Dorne last night
May 06th 2019
63
I really hope this is the case. Seems like ppl don't think Jon is
May 06th 2019
57
      would Sansa be Jon's "Hand"?
May 06th 2019
62
           I wouldn't be mad at it
May 08th 2019
125
i read all the leaked spoilers and frankly
May 06th 2019
40
Shame
May 06th 2019
56
eh this show is on some bullshit mostly
May 06th 2019
70
The whole season leaked ?
May 06th 2019
65
      i dont know if the full episodes leaked
May 06th 2019
69
           They've done that before and it was horseshit.
May 06th 2019
80
           well every single thing they said would happen in ep 4
May 06th 2019
87
                I pray these last two eps are amazing
May 06th 2019
91
                     so far pretty much spot on
May 12th 2019
166
           Thanks I'm gonna check that out
May 06th 2019
85
With this episode, the only thing I'm mad about is the pace
May 06th 2019
64
Agreed, i thought this was a fantastic episode.
May 06th 2019
66
yeah the pacing accelerated last season, now its even worse
May 06th 2019
67
Nikolai Coster-Waldau said something revealing to Vanity Fair
May 06th 2019
68
Even in earlier seasons there were some gaps, but book readers
May 06th 2019
75
Is Sansa a hero or a villain?
May 06th 2019
74
RE: Is Sansa a hero or a villain?
May 06th 2019
76
I mean, really, does she really understand it?
May 06th 2019
89
RE: I mean, really, does she really understand it?
May 06th 2019
94
Sansa on the throne is my prediction
May 06th 2019
95
      RE: Sansa on the throne is my prediction
May 06th 2019
97
I used to think she was a villain, but so far in S8 she's been a hero
May 06th 2019
79
Dany fans hate her
May 06th 2019
82
a villain?
May 06th 2019
83
in GOTT, keeping your word is highly overrated....unless it's the red we...
May 08th 2019
114
in GRRM world that its not an either or thing
May 06th 2019
88
      Yeah, she's one of the few 'complicated' characters left,
May 06th 2019
93
I wish they had stuck with the 10 episode seasons
May 06th 2019
84
I guess you can make the argument that they didn't want...
May 06th 2019
90
Them dragons aint for shit if you don’\t use them. Always getting got
May 06th 2019
96
Gendry needs to get to work on some dragon-sized breastplates.
May 07th 2019
101
Why didn't Dany order some armor made for the dragons
May 07th 2019
102
      I imagine it’s difficult to get measurements for Dragons
May 07th 2019
103
      There's no way something that strong is going to be unable to fly
May 07th 2019
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      ppl can barely put clothes on a dog
May 07th 2019
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           lol...
May 07th 2019
113
Again, how does a slow moving ship sneak up on a flying dragon?
May 07th 2019
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Is Rhaegal actually dead?
May 07th 2019
108
i was thinking that too even though it seemed clear
May 07th 2019
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They are magic right? The Night King was magic so he was deadly
May 07th 2019
110
      I never really considered them magic
May 07th 2019
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           I feel like the line "dragons are magic" has been repeated a few times
May 08th 2019
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                From what I know of the books, it's stated pretty explicitly,
May 08th 2019
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                     I mean, these three dragons were born from three stone eggs after...
May 08th 2019
120
                     In that case, he can survive a bolt through the neck!
May 08th 2019
123
                          Ha, I don't disagree.
May 08th 2019
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                     It's also stated explicitly that dragon hide is damn near impenetrable.
May 09th 2019
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                          In the books, these scorpions/ballistas existed in the past
May 13th 2019
279
What the fuck you mean is he fuckin dead God?
May 08th 2019
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      lmao
May 08th 2019
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      Bravo sir!
May 08th 2019
122
Just saw a youtube theory video about dragons
May 09th 2019
130
      I guessed this too but thought it'd be weird with the incest angle
May 09th 2019
134
           In this show, an "incest angle" is a feature, not a bug.
May 09th 2019
136
Show is okay... GRRM is probably learning what NOT to write about
May 08th 2019
119
they're gonna promise Bron the throne before this is over
May 08th 2019
126
they're going to give him Highgarden then kill him on the throne...
May 09th 2019
129
In one scene they made that character a whole lot less interesting.
May 09th 2019
131
he's never really been interesting though
May 16th 2019
528
He's gonna fuck around and get Arya'd
May 09th 2019
135
Whaddup Cyren
May 08th 2019
127
*head nod*
May 09th 2019
133
Confession: Me and wife have fallen asleep to every ep. this season.
May 09th 2019
137
on a rewatch the dragon thing is so much worse
May 10th 2019
138
My headcanon for this is they won an impossible war with zero strategy
May 10th 2019
139
To be fair, they DIDN'T know that they'd upgraded the ballistas,
May 10th 2019
140
      Maybe Tyrion just needs to start fucking again
May 10th 2019
141
      Yeah, I can not conjure an explanation for that.
May 10th 2019
142
      I agree that Cersei could've annihilated them right then and there...
May 11th 2019
145
      where tf was Bran?!? Why didn't he warg into a raven to scout?
May 10th 2019
143
      One, you're misremembering things
May 11th 2019
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           yeah plus the first 3 shots are the only ones we see
May 11th 2019
146
           That's the only time we see several...
May 12th 2019
153
           I'm a physics professor. I know how recoil works.
May 12th 2019
152
                Lol the fact that you're a physicist is essentially your schtick here br...
May 13th 2019
252
                     LOL, "changing the definition."
May 13th 2019
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                          Don't worry, I'll post the definition
May 13th 2019
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                               through; through; perforate; through
May 13th 2019
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                                    LMAO You can't be serious right now.
May 13th 2019
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                                         You're really still going with this?
May 13th 2019
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                                              RE: You're really still going with this?
May 13th 2019
310
RE: Game Of Thrones Season 8 (part 2)
May 11th 2019
147
interesting but i don't see it
May 11th 2019
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RE: interesting but i don't see it
May 11th 2019
149
      my thing is it's not something he'd need to do behind Cersei's back
May 12th 2019
150
           RE: my thing is it's not something he'd need to do behind Cersei's back
May 12th 2019
154
           That's my point tho. Jon/Ned have tunnel vision in that regard
May 12th 2019
155
           also either way, i have to re-state. Fuck Varys
May 12th 2019
157
                She appeared to be good leader with the right ideals
May 13th 2019
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                     Yeah he was right. I was wrong lol
May 13th 2019
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                          I'm bummed about that. Kinda wish you were correct on this
May 13th 2019
317
           Lol well I sure nailed this one
May 12th 2019
220
Cersei sent Qyburn to Bronn with the offer, so she did issue the order.
May 12th 2019
151
I had to crack up when Sansa asked Tyrion "Why her?"
May 12th 2019
156
Its been a great ride...
May 12th 2019
158
Wow!!! Fuck Dany.
May 12th 2019
159
foul my ass
May 12th 2019
193
RE: foul my ass
May 12th 2019
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      RE: foul my ass
May 12th 2019
214
           The common people pray for rain, health, and...
May 12th 2019
219
                ^^^^^^^^^^^
May 13th 2019
283
Why? the penalty for treason is death
May 13th 2019
244
I don't condone it, but I understand Dany
May 12th 2019
160
Nah. She's an entitled asshole. Hope she dies
May 12th 2019
161
Arya is coming for that ass.
May 12th 2019
168
      Nah, Arya's done with all of this.
May 12th 2019
198
           until she saw the mother and child burned up
May 12th 2019
200
                I think that hammered the point home more than anything.
May 12th 2019
206
                     you may be right
May 12th 2019
212
Nah. She could’ve went straight to the Castle and killed Cersie
May 12th 2019
165
fuck kings landing
May 12th 2019
195
word. Burn.It.All.Down
May 12th 2019
192
I mean I understood her "fuck it" to a degree
May 12th 2019
218
I understand framing it as she was betrayed by everyone.
May 13th 2019
228
You understand the unnecessary murder of thousands of innocent civilians...
May 13th 2019
225
only way i can explain it to myself was love
May 15th 2019
511
ok i died laughing at Qyburn's whole brain exploding out
May 12th 2019
162
Hope isn’t a plan Cersie
May 12th 2019
163
she's dead i thought?
May 12th 2019
172
      when she was in the high castle thinkin things would work out
May 12th 2019
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      That’s why she’s dead.
May 12th 2019
207
This shit needed to be 10 episodes.
May 12th 2019
164
RE: This shit needed to be 10 episodes.
May 12th 2019
215
I will take what is mine with fire and blood
May 12th 2019
167
Basically no reason to bring all those soldiers to KL
May 12th 2019
169
at this point it's a hate watch.
May 12th 2019
170
      she trying to get her moneys worth out of those northerners
May 12th 2019
175
      imagine if she had shown up at night lmao
May 12th 2019
176
           Thinking on this, and damn that's a genius idea.
May 13th 2019
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                Dany has to be the one to see them not the dragon though
May 16th 2019
530
The hell did I just watch nm
May 12th 2019
171
A fucking mess with a lot of bad and some good.
May 12th 2019
173
Tryion was at least dead on about who'd win
May 12th 2019
180
If they'd have left it at that, they'd have been fine
May 12th 2019
183
Arya has been the best character this season
May 12th 2019
182
thinking about it, I actually agree
May 12th 2019
187
Yeah. well, her and Drogon
May 12th 2019
194
They've been good with her and pretty much Jon
May 12th 2019
189
      Jon too except for the Ghost thing
May 13th 2019
232
Cosign, particularly this part
May 13th 2019
261
I don't think Arya is done killing.
May 13th 2019
266
i liked the hound vs the mountain
May 15th 2019
513
What a nice coincedence that Euron finds Jaime.
May 12th 2019
174
was that a contractually obligated scene wtf
May 12th 2019
177
That would have been a perfect end
May 12th 2019
178
that scene was completely pointless except for the punchline smh
May 12th 2019
216
dumb dumb dumb
May 12th 2019
179
      lol @ grow a kidney back
May 15th 2019
514
Jaime is more indestructable than The Mountain.
May 12th 2019
202
2 abdomen wounds and waltzing around the red keep
May 13th 2019
245
Seriously.
May 13th 2019
342
Euron is everything bad about this season
May 12th 2019
204
For me this was the worst thing in the episode
May 13th 2019
234
Of All the Places to Wash Up on the Shore
May 13th 2019
240
That was so damn corny
May 13th 2019
259
LOL @ the Golden Company
May 12th 2019
181
Should have broken their contracts
May 12th 2019
184
Good thing they didn't waste their elephants.
May 12th 2019
185
      LOL I JUST tweeted that
May 12th 2019
186
that fight between The Hound and Varys tho
May 12th 2019
188
Yeah.Burn.It.All.Down
May 12th 2019
190
Night King kinda seems like a nice guy now
May 12th 2019
191
lol..but cersei could have saved everyone
May 12th 2019
197
Destruction of KL was dope. Entire rest of episode was TRASH.
May 12th 2019
196
nope..yall are HAF..yall want Sopranos ending shit
May 12th 2019
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      i haven't seen ONE episode of Sopranos. shut up.
May 12th 2019
205
      lmao..4 or 5 seasons more...
May 12th 2019
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      this is more like if the Sons of Anarchy writers finished the Sopranos
May 13th 2019
231
what a load of fucking bullshit.
May 12th 2019
203
Tall knew it was going to be war and destruction. Stop crying.
May 12th 2019
208
for real..they want the Seventh Seal
May 12th 2019
209
i don't think anyone is mad about that.
May 12th 2019
213
that was the cool part
May 12th 2019
217
Have you have held a nuanced opinion about anything? Anything at all?
May 13th 2019
226
you wait in convenient store parking lots to fight people
May 13th 2019
235
      1. False. 2. You being a basic bitch has zero to do with me
May 13th 2019
284
      LOL the fact i read this as inconvenient made it funnier
May 15th 2019
515
I don't think it's the what, it's the how
May 13th 2019
230
      Yeah, it's exactly this
May 13th 2019
246
      .
May 13th 2019
249
      I disagree. I don’t think it was 2 episodes.
May 13th 2019
251
      Her anger at Jon's betrayal/Westeros not embracing her
May 13th 2019
255
           Everyone has turned on her
May 13th 2019
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      I disagree. What I love about it is how it's been under the surface
May 13th 2019
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      How bout Cers tries to escape and she flames whole city to get her
May 13th 2019
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           I think Dany was done at that point
May 13th 2019
280
                They begged for mercy for Missandei and Cersie chopped her head
May 13th 2019
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                She knows Cers doesnt GAF bout those ppl. They're bystanders.
May 13th 2019
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                Yeah, Dany wanted Cersei to spend some time fucking terrified
May 13th 2019
295
If I'm George Martin I'm walking around dicks out
May 12th 2019
221
Well, honestly I blame him for the show being this bad
May 13th 2019
222
      fuck it, I'm sure that hbo money was deep
May 13th 2019
223
all this yet they couldn't afford to have Jon pet Ghost
May 13th 2019
224
i was wondering why he didnt pet him
May 15th 2019
516
that grey worm/dany scene though smh
May 13th 2019
229
some things I DID like about this ep
May 13th 2019
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Everything except the overall vision balled out this episode
May 13th 2019
241
The North vs Golden Company was weak af
May 13th 2019
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      right, I was like wtf? lol...
May 13th 2019
286
      when Dothraki guy last week took half his guys off the board
May 13th 2019
309
      Drogon took out most of the Golden Company first
May 13th 2019
346
All cuz Jon couldn't fuck his Aunt.
May 13th 2019
236
Episode 5 thoughts...
May 13th 2019
237
Tonight I realized HBO had a Days of Our Lives on its hands
May 13th 2019
238
F it, I really liked that episode.
May 13th 2019
239
this is where I'm at
May 13th 2019
242
The episode itself was great
May 13th 2019
250
Nephew ain’t as loyal as she thought.
May 13th 2019
254
he was the first man to reject her and she couldn't handle it
May 13th 2019
258
It wasn't because he rejected her.
May 13th 2019
267
Dany wasn’t upset about not fucking
May 14th 2019
432
100%
May 13th 2019
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stands in this line
May 13th 2019
268
Are you saying Dany always been a worse person than Cersei?
May 13th 2019
285
No. But people have been giving her a pass for a while
May 13th 2019
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      fair enough, but i think to say she's been this person the whole time
May 13th 2019
364
Her military training was with the Dothraki.....she fights as a Khalessi
May 13th 2019
303
What about all those kids who got named Khaleesi?
May 13th 2019
243
If I were to have a daughter Daenerys would still be in play
May 13th 2019
248
This "battle" was much better than the Night King one
May 13th 2019
247
The Dany frustration is weird.
May 13th 2019
256
But the show hasn't shown why her daddy was mad
May 13th 2019
324
      interesting. thanks for this
May 13th 2019
330
      It’s not 3 episode tho
May 14th 2019
455
Agreed on the battle
May 13th 2019
257
      I wish the show would have been brave enough to kill Arya
May 13th 2019
260
           My predictions.
May 13th 2019
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                I could see those happening
May 13th 2019
270
                I don't think anyone even needs to break them up.
May 13th 2019
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                I am with you on two of the 4
May 13th 2019
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                I thought about Arya killing Greyworm to get his face
May 13th 2019
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                Arya killing Dany and/or Greyworm would be awful writing
May 13th 2019
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                     Nah. Ignoring the Hound and going after Cersie would’ve been
May 13th 2019
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                          That makes Arya even more of a deus ex machina
May 13th 2019
331
                               Behold a Pale Horse
May 17th 2019
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they had a shot with Jaimes right hand in it
May 13th 2019
274
I thought I saw that!
May 13th 2019
288
They said that was a behind-the-scenes pic...
May 13th 2019
397
That Lost/Sopranos episode was an L for the series
May 13th 2019
275
Joffrey dying from poison was awesome
May 13th 2019
278
Should have been something equal to Ramsay getting the dogs
May 13th 2019
289
didn't the Hound lose to Brienne?
May 13th 2019
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      he was fighting an infection!
May 13th 2019
304
      Yes he did
May 13th 2019
306
i didnt like that
May 15th 2019
517
Joffrey dying from poisoning with perfect.
May 13th 2019
296
yeah that was awesome
May 13th 2019
301
Some people said the same about Cersei's death
May 13th 2019
312
Dude! Euron swam a few miles in a full leather pants suit...
May 13th 2019
314
wetter than Eddie Murphy on the trans section of a stroll
May 13th 2019
319
I don't know. I saw Arya as super vulnerable this episode.
May 13th 2019
322
      she knows who the real enemy is now
May 13th 2019
323
Aftermath, so how does Dany not immediately kill Jon and Tyrion?
May 13th 2019
291
I'd love to see Jon slay Drogon
May 13th 2019
293
I'll admit i still don't want Drogon to die
May 13th 2019
298
      I always hate seeing them get hurt, but dragons are clearly
May 13th 2019
368
           oh you're 100% right but
May 13th 2019
373
                I know lol....they don't know any better
May 13th 2019
376
There's no way she wouldn't at least kill Tyrion
May 13th 2019
300
he did touch a dragon that one time
May 13th 2019
305
depends on what she knows....
May 13th 2019
302
she knows their character tho
May 13th 2019
308
Jon did something wrong..
May 13th 2019
311
Will fire even work on Jon?
May 13th 2019
318
He got burned back in season 1
May 13th 2019
341
She HAS to.
May 13th 2019
325
It seems to me that Dany sealed her own fate.
May 13th 2019
338
Hm.
May 13th 2019
299
https://twitter.com/siregarfaisal/status/1127815729837776897
May 13th 2019
313
^^^proof that shit can in fact be turned into gold.
May 13th 2019
321
cleganebowl was perfunctory, pedestrian, and terrible
May 13th 2019
320
I think the Mountain recognizing his brother was spot on
May 13th 2019
327
but they weren't arch enemies!
May 13th 2019
329
Are you an only child? LOL
May 13th 2019
332
      actually yes lolll
May 13th 2019
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           sibling rivalries are real as shit.
May 13th 2019
351
                dr phil here!
May 15th 2019
518
                     Pops collar
May 17th 2019
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                          for the record I'm still right lol
May 18th 2019
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right, and they had a standoff before at a previous meeting and the...
May 13th 2019
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I don't think it was a heroic death.
May 13th 2019
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The symbolism. Hound hated fire for obvious reasons
May 13th 2019
333
i liked Cleganebowl but Qyburn deserved a less cartoonish death
May 13th 2019
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That actually seemed right to me
May 13th 2019
345
Also, the Mountain just love killing and doing evil shit.
May 13th 2019
352
THANK YOU
May 13th 2019
374
*deep inhale* OMG YES, we are finally nearly done with this shitshow
May 13th 2019
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This ep. further solidified how wack their "Long Night" battle strategy ...
May 13th 2019
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Yup. One dragon for NK and one to flame the dead
May 13th 2019
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Why not fly the Dragon directly at Cersei in the tower?
May 13th 2019
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exactly several times they acted like that was what she was going to do....
May 13th 2019
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My guess is they're turning her into the Mad Queen
May 13th 2019
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      RE: My guess is they're turning her into the Mad Queen
May 13th 2019
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      Yup. Dany herself is inbred
May 13th 2019
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      Being that guy again... the way incest is handled in the books is differ...
May 13th 2019
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I think that's the question. What did she stand to gain by nuking the ci...
May 13th 2019
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FWIW, Tywin took King's Landing "for" Robert in a similarly bloody way
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      Sacking of a city is still different than the razing of one to me.
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The point was that it wasn't necessary.
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Shorty said nah, pulled the trigger and stepped...
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"Real niggas buck in broad daylight, wid a mac that wont
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I will say, I am not sure why Tyrion would snitch on Varys.
May 13th 2019
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shit, that's the only prediction i got right
May 13th 2019
355
The Game is the Game
May 13th 2019
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Varys basically said he would kill her
May 13th 2019
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Oh damn. I missed he was trying to poison her. I stand corrected.
May 13th 2019
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They've made Tyrion very, very dumb these last couple seasons
May 13th 2019
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Varys was trying to poison Dany
May 13th 2019
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Good catch. Shit, I totally missed it.
May 13th 2019
361
right I didn't catch that until I watched it a second time...
May 13th 2019
362
interesting. i didn't put that together
May 13th 2019
365
Further evidence it was not a break in character
May 13th 2019
367
What do you think she stands to gain through her actions?
May 13th 2019
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Rule through fear: the authoritarian socialist playbook
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      Yup
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But why would she go out of her way to strafe over the city
May 13th 2019
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      she wanted to terrorize and flaunt it in Cersei's face
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Oh, nice catch
May 13th 2019
371
Well now I feel dumb for not having picked up on that
May 13th 2019
380
Totally missed that also
May 13th 2019
400
i did catch that
May 15th 2019
519
Ppl who cheered Mis for "dracarys" yet appalled Dany obliged her lol
May 13th 2019
369
right she carried out her girl's final wish but she should've burned up....
May 13th 2019
372
who is that?
May 13th 2019
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But where did this massive crowd of Dany soldiers come from?
May 13th 2019
379
Those are all the understudy Dothraki, I guess
May 13th 2019
381
Not only that, but they fought fresh
May 13th 2019
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I hated that shit too.
May 13th 2019
384
Lol exactly
May 14th 2019
418
Would you bring your whole army to the North
May 13th 2019
383
Jon & Davos lead the majority of the army down the King's Road
May 13th 2019
399
IDK. I think a lot of white women are just made that they made Dany
May 13th 2019
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Theyre super mad. Words such a misogynist and patriarchy are popping up
May 13th 2019
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overall im fine with the major plot points
May 13th 2019
388
Yeah, people are setting up strawmen
May 13th 2019
392
that seems to be the reaction to the reaction
May 13th 2019
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      Curious how long a season is in minutes.
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           ya, thats it smh
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           To what end?
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           Nah it's rushed
May 13th 2019
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           It's not the runtimes specifically, it's the plotlines
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           I just think it’s impossible to end a series
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                I completely feel you on the investment part
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           nah this shit is bullet points vs essays
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Exactly
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I think Tyrion and Jaime's path have been the most
May 13th 2019
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      I'm clinging to Tyrion's certainty that the city would fall
May 13th 2019
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Yup. You can give me anything, just sell it.
May 13th 2019
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if the first 6 seasons were a gradual tense climb
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that's what I've been saying. the things connecting all these beats
May 13th 2019
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Alright, then...
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LOL, these silly fucks do not care
May 13th 2019
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C’mon yo. In the same article it gives all the other reasons
May 13th 2019
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They're more worried about Confederate making it...
May 14th 2019
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Cersei kills Missandei, plus
May 14th 2019
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      Jon being a dumbass almost got her killed by Varys
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           ^^^^
May 14th 2019
           folks acting like all the other signs were on some dumb shit
May 14th 2019
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           ^^^^
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           LOL.
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           And that's how we get "burn the whole city alive?"
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           She didn’t have fully grown dragons to do most of this at the time
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           The Dothraki Khals weren't innocent people
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           She walked out of a burning building naked bro
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                Those Dothraki weren't a threat to her crown
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                     I disagree. While they used the threat of rape
May 14th 2019
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                          But even then, they had still done something to her
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                               Well yeah. I said above she should’ve gone straight to the castle
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           Yeah, she's always had to be talked out of cruelty
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           When Tyrion asked her to show mercy if te bells rang she didn’t say ok
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                RE: When Tyrion asked her to show mercy if te bells rang she didn’t sa...
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                Yeah, she clearly doesn't trust him anymore
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                     Well, she looked mad when she did that shit... lol
May 14th 2019
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           Jon's always on some James Comey boyscout shit
May 14th 2019
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So why didn’t she go directly at Cersei in the Red Keep?
May 14th 2019
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Cause that would make too much sense.
May 14th 2019
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Because she wouldn't have gone full Mad Queen doing that
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Because the bish gone mad
May 14th 2019
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lol...
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she couldn't handle the people of KL not loving her
May 14th 2019
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You can't have an impulsive descent into madness
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Idk. I just don't give D&D too much credit for that turn.
May 14th 2019
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D&D clearly don't know what they're doing.
May 14th 2019
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yall lemon suckers, please dont watch the next/last episode
May 14th 2019
437
IF YOU DON'T LOVE AMERICA GET OUT
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lol
May 14th 2019
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Did anyone say they're not watching or anything?
May 14th 2019
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Im telling you not to. It will help yalls blood pressure
May 14th 2019
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Im here for the backlash to the backlash
May 14th 2019
449
      Yeah, we still haven't seen the full season
May 14th 2019
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      This happens with every major "thing"
May 14th 2019
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Why not attack King's Landing first?
May 14th 2019
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why was Bil-lay going to keep The Modernairres 'stead of Prince?
May 14th 2019
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Cause maybe that wouldn't have worked and made fighting the night king.
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That works both ways
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      Wtf does Cersei win if the NK defeated the North?
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      No No No. The only battle that matter for all humanity was fighting the
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           I didn’t wait 7 years for this bullshit
May 15th 2019
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                RE: I didn’t wait 7 years for this bullshit
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Nah that makes no sense. NK was marching through the north
May 14th 2019
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      Didn't need an army...Dragon went Dragon
May 14th 2019
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           a dragon can't hold the city. only destroy it
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                I think you missed the point
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                     huh?
May 14th 2019
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                     so killing people gives you more bodies?
May 16th 2019
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Remember when Ned resigned because he refused to help kill Dany?
May 14th 2019
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Them trying to kill Dany put her on this path if we're being real
May 14th 2019
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      wasn't it always the plan though?
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           I mean, possibly, eventually
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                Yeah, i remember it did set Drogo off
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What was Varys' plan though?
May 14th 2019
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If she dead then Jon Snow ends up King whether he wants it or not.
May 14th 2019
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i mean i get that but, the Unsullied/Dothraki/Drogon dgaf
May 14th 2019
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      less chances of dragon fire on the masses with her gone
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           Jon actually has NO following
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                They were frustrated before all those zombies showed up
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                how long will they stay grateful? his BoB capital didn't last long
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                Nah. Jon has a lot of juice.
May 15th 2019
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                     even if we assumed the north will back him, it leaves everyone else
May 15th 2019
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                          Jon will always have the Wildlings on his side.
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                          unsullied's home was an auction block
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                               Freedom
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                                    they don't have dicks, man
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                          why would you need to kill them if Dany is gone
May 16th 2019
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RE: i guess we're with Jon now
May 14th 2019
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also who would he be sending the scrolls to?
May 14th 2019
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What IS Varys' plan though?
May 14th 2019
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      great point
May 14th 2019
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so, uh, not sure how many of y'all are gamblers... (BIG FUTURE SPOILER?)
May 14th 2019
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yes its because of the leaks
May 14th 2019
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I'm guessing it's the leaks
May 14th 2019
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RE: so, uh, not sure how many of y'all are gamblers... (BIG FUTURE SPOIL...
May 14th 2019
483
That Bran thing is so dumb
May 14th 2019
485
it's Jon.
May 15th 2019
494
I added an episode to this season:
May 15th 2019
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There have been signs but I never imagined the show could get this bad
May 15th 2019
488
Yeah, I just think the idea that storytelling that does not satisfy
May 15th 2019
491
what made this show great is that it wasn't like Hollywood
May 15th 2019
502
I'm really not mad at how Cersei's death went
May 15th 2019
504
So D&D basically got the next Star Wars movies and said fuck Thrones
May 15th 2019
489
Star Wars Fandom is no joke.
May 15th 2019
508
I think I'm just going to pretend that the last season doesn't exist
May 15th 2019
492
i liked the newest episode
May 15th 2019
493
if you can get past the writing flaws the episode is fucking incredible
May 15th 2019
496
Yeah, on a pure technical level, it's outstanding
May 15th 2019
497
visually stunning, techichally amazing. score, acting all great
May 15th 2019
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      i agree with all of this but i can't get past the writing flaws
May 15th 2019
505
           for me the good far outweighs the bad
May 15th 2019
510
                samesies
May 15th 2019
512
There hasn't been a better episode that shows the horror of war.
May 15th 2019
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this is key
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      She would have been a foreign invader with a weak claim to the throne
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           RE: She would have been a foreign invader with a weak claim to the thron...
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           But she didn't burn down a city to win the throne.
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                there's a good storyline where mass civilian killings is the price
May 15th 2019
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                I also think there's a good storyline with killing civilians as the pric...
May 16th 2019
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                She doesn’t trust the High Lords
May 16th 2019
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                She hasn't met with any high lords aside from the ones she killed
May 16th 2019
525
                     dude there isn't any "votes of confidence" when ruling by fear. LOL.
May 16th 2019
529
                          It was used for lack of a better term, bruh.
May 16th 2019
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                Taking Kingslanding does not give her control of the Seven Kingdoms
May 16th 2019
526
                     How did Dorne betray her?
May 16th 2019
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                          I don't even know who is in charge of Dorne.
May 16th 2019
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                               It was stated in the dialogue that there was a new prince of dorne
May 16th 2019
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                                    She chose Fear
May 16th 2019
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                                    But the people of King's Landing never betrayed her
May 16th 2019
552
                                         You're trying to relate to a killer
May 17th 2019
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                                         The problem is Dany never sees the people as people
May 17th 2019
574
                                    I'm saying those aren't strong ties and who knows if they would be there...
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I call BS on ANYONE who thinks they knew
May 16th 2019
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nah it was a very popular theory going in
May 16th 2019
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u might need to binge watch
May 16th 2019
536
naw it's thoroughly consistent with her character
May 16th 2019
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yeah it's a more clumsily executed Walter White arc
May 16th 2019
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good comparison
May 16th 2019
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damn thats a good comparison
May 16th 2019
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The one difference is that her cruelty was always directed at masters
May 17th 2019
559
      Exactly
May 17th 2019
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      The thing is, she always had trusted advisors talking her down
May 17th 2019
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           I’ve watched this episode like 4 times
May 17th 2019
562
                I disagree
May 17th 2019
573
                That's how GOOD SHIT WORKS!! That's why folks loved the Sixth Sense!!
May 17th 2019
578
                Sixth Sense worked because it made sense
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579
                Wait for me outside the city, you will know when it’s time
May 17th 2019
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                     I get it
May 17th 2019
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                          Of course it’s not right. That’s why Varys tried to poison her
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                               I'll try to explain my point
May 17th 2019
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                                    So if we didn’t predict it it’s bad writing?
May 17th 2019
601
                                         no but motivations should line up
May 17th 2019
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                the writers said that's not the case though
May 17th 2019
588
                     You could definitely tell she snapped
May 17th 2019
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      Yeah and I think their point is that cruelty is cruelty.
May 17th 2019
563
      What went to shit though?
May 17th 2019
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           She didn't win, though, and that's the point.
May 17th 2019
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                Thank you
May 17th 2019
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      There isn't much light between someone who is only cruel to bad people t...
May 17th 2019
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from 2015
May 16th 2019
543
Yeah, I get the IDEA that she would go bad
May 17th 2019
555
Tyrion has been begging her not to burn up the gen pop since forever.
May 16th 2019
551
You missing the point. It's not that people knew that this would happen
May 17th 2019
567
      I get your point and those of others but
May 17th 2019
577
      I think the idea this is terrible writing is overblown
May 17th 2019
599
      this is where I disagree because they traded development for shock value...
May 17th 2019
586
           The death of Littlefinger was utterly stupid.
May 17th 2019
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                yeah, and again, i'm really enjoying this season too
May 17th 2019
592
                     Nah. Fans need to get over themselves
May 17th 2019
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                          agree/disagree
May 17th 2019
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                               I wonder if it isn't the most divisive TV episode ever
May 17th 2019
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                                    ive def never seen a penultimate episode this divisive lol
May 17th 2019
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Folks are arguing like these are Real People... ROTFL
May 16th 2019
540
this is rich
May 16th 2019
545
Dracarys
May 16th 2019
550
Took a second to get this reply. Funny.
May 17th 2019
566
imagine being so deeply invested in something that's not real
May 16th 2019
553
      Well played
May 17th 2019
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      lmao
May 17th 2019
557
      I see what you did there
May 17th 2019
564
      Do Tell.
May 17th 2019
565
      oop lol!
May 17th 2019
572
      http://i.imgur.com/kXnklaI.gif
May 17th 2019
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      Case been one of my favorite characters for 20 seasons now.
May 17th 2019
617
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60354275_10156527802698425...
May 16th 2019
549
My actual predictions for the finale
May 17th 2019
568
My predictions
May 17th 2019
571
if the starks clean house like that then its wack.
May 17th 2019
576
Why? It definitely feels like this journey was all about the Starks
May 17th 2019
609
Arya killing Dany is definitely something I could see happening
May 17th 2019
581
Jon institutes constitutional monarchy and commonwealth of 7 kingdoms
May 17th 2019
587
      Westerosi Magna Carta
May 17th 2019
593
      Prime Minister Samwell Tarley
May 17th 2019
602
Dany either stays in power or somehow gets killed by Tyrion
May 17th 2019
594
Here's mine:
May 17th 2019
595
LOL Robin Arryn is probably the only person I could imagine on the thron...
May 17th 2019
596
My Prediction
May 17th 2019
604
Drogon throws Dany off his back after Jon survives the fire
May 17th 2019
610
i dont see tyrion killing her
May 17th 2019
616
My predictions....
May 17th 2019
612
RE: My actual predictions for the finale
May 17th 2019
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one of my wishes is for Arya to get killed by a faceless men
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.
May 17th 2019
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1. "We fittin to talk about this starbucks cup?"
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3. "mistakes happen LOL!.."
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..working in tv/film has my continuity radar on tilt, but mistakes like this are hilarious.






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4. "RE: mistakes happen LOL!.."
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oh hell yea... it's just mad funny... NO ONE at any point in filming, editing, coloring or pre-screening saw that shit..

I also still want to know what the hell happened with the Dire Wolves(dog/wolf hybrids) they were using in the UK... cuz now its clear they just shoot the wolf green screen somewhere and just plop him in

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5. "the DP said he knows there's no Starbucks cup because he shot it"
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and anyone who saw a starbucks cup doesn't know how to tune their tvs properly

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8. "The really annoying part is the cardboard sleeve."
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She's the Mother of Dragons! The Unburnt! She doesn't need a sleeve for her coffee cup.

  

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2. "right all this was hella stupid...:"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13326279&mesg_id=13326279&page=#13330662

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628. "Seeing the show really start to struggle past beyond the Source Material"
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Just feels like they are racing from plot point to plot point.

-Sure ships can get launch a surprise attack on a dragon

-Sure Bran (or is it Bron) can roll up and make a new deal and just leave (by the way, a deal made under duress isn't really much of a deal).

- Sure we fall for the misdirection that Jaime is rushing back to be by the side of Cersi not kill her.

- Sure Tyrion's idea confronting Cersei like they did with an emotional plea with that tiny ass army was going to turn out other than it did.

-Sure fine ass Missandei, and Missandei alone, would end up in the hands of Cersei.

All these things happening just because the plot requires these things to happen.


Anyway, still team Sansa because she knows how to play the game.

  

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13. "I think the pregnancy complicates the Cersei thing"
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>-Sure ships can get launch a surprise attack on a dragon

It seemed Drogon could've just circled around the ships and destroyed them from behind. I kinda want to give this a pass because it had to be disorienting at the time, but I don't see a surprise attack being an issue. Probably the only way it could happen.

>-Sure Bran (or is it Bron) can roll up and make a new deal and
>just leave (by the way, a deal made under duress isn't really
>much of a deal).

The Bron thing bugged me a lot. I know he's a sellswrord, out for himself yada yada, but trusting Cersi just because she paid him up front, and just being that willing to turn on them that way. It all felt silly.

>- Sure we fall for the misdirection that Jaime is rushing back
>to be by the side of Cersi not kill her.

I would say the misdirect was painfully obvious if there wasn't a baby involved.

>- Sure Tyrion's idea confronting Cersei like they did with an
>emotional plea with that tiny ass army was going to turn out
>other than it did.

It seemed like a ridiculous plea, but stravinskian mentioned in the other post, he did kinda slide in some baby daddy drama for Eueron.

Also Tyrion legit doesn't want the city to burn, partially because he's put all his eggs behind Dany and this would make him a fuck up (again!), and because he just doesn't want the city to burn

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24. "RE: I think the pregnancy complicates the Cersei thing"
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>>-Sure ships can get launch a surprise attack on a dragon
>
>It seemed Drogon could've just circled around the ships and
>destroyed them from behind. I kinda want to give this a pass
>because it had to be disorienting at the time, but I don't see
>a surprise attack being an issue. Probably the only way it
>could happen.

Seems like Daenarys should've spotted them a mile away. And nobody was on watch on the ships?

>>-Sure Bran (or is it Bron) can roll up and make a new deal
>and
>>just leave (by the way, a deal made under duress isn't
>really
>>much of a deal).
>
>The Bron thing bugged me a lot. I know he's a sellswrord, out
>for himself yada yada, but trusting Cersi just because she
>paid him up front, and just being that willing to turn on them
>that way. It all felt silly.

Plus how he just rolled up in there with a crossbow, now that the white walkers are dead they don't have security at Winterfell?


  

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34. "RE: I think the pregnancy complicates the Cersei thing"
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>>a surprise attack being an issue. Probably the only way it
>>could happen.
>
>Seems like Daenarys should've spotted them a mile away. And
>nobody was on watch on the ships?

They were behind mountains. I'm not sure how high up the dragons were. I think they just got lax. You would think Dany and them would be more weary of spears and scorpions at this point tho.

>Plus how he just rolled up in there with a crossbow, now that
>the white walkers are dead they don't have security at
>Winterfell?

LOL i thought that too, but Bron's kind of a bad mf so i allowed it.

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86. "all of that. "
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6. "Will Bran be unmasked as the Lord Of Light?"
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There is a reddit theory that he is the physical embodiment of what they refer to as that...

- We KNOW that Jon Snow and Berric are "wights" but good ones.. so who raised em up?

- Can we raise more people up? Dragons?

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7. "we DO?"
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>- We KNOW that Jon Snow and Berric are "wights" but good
>ones.. so who raised em up?
>
>- Can we raise more people up? Dragons?

  

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9. "Well, they were brought back from death."
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I assume that's all he's saying.

  

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14. "RE: we DO?"
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GRRM said as much

“..poor Beric Dondarrion, who was set up as the foreshadowing of all this, every time he’s a little less Beric. His memories are fading, he’s got all these scars, he’s becoming more and more physically hideous, because he’s not a living human being anymore. His heart isn’t beating, his blood isn’t flowing in his veins, he’s a wight, but a wight animated by fire instead of by ice, now we’re getting back to the whole fire and ice thing.”

https://wikiofthrones.com/9626/george-r-r-martin-reveals-beric-dondarrion-wight-animated-fire/

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27. "Is the Lord of Light the only religion they've implied might be true?"
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The Faith of the Seven is just the medieval Catholic church, the Drowned God is dumb, the Old Gods is just worship of nature/the Children, but the Lord of Light has actually done stuff. SOMETHING made that smoke shadow come out of the Red Woman and is causing people to see visions in the flames and bringing people back to life.

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32. "RE: Is the Lord of Light the only religion they've implied might be true..."
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Well they could all be the same god (different names)... arya has essentially learned magic as well worshipping a god (not the lord of light)

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35. "Forgot the Many Faced God"
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I wasn't sure if the face thing was something that could be taught or if it was magic.

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53. "RE: Forgot the Many Faced God"
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It is something mystical... lol either way

Sansa just out here regular as hell now though.. all her siblings are magical in some way

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10. "Missandei: Dracarys! Drogon: Now? Nah I'm good back here."
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12. "Shit still got me sick."
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Cersei ain't shit!

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15. "Word. That Dragon didn't want any parts of that conversation."
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.
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

"Whatever you do, do it enthusiastically, as something done for the Lord and not for men..."~ Co

  

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16. "LOL, yeah, I had to watch to see if he perked up his head,"
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and then looked around confused like a dog when someone new tells them to fetch.

You're not my mother!

  

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38. "lol nah that was for dany not drogon. "
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41. "Her dying act was to echo the mad king to burn them all. Nice smh"
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17. "i think Tyrion serves up Varys"
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and he should probably do it before Varys does it to him.

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19. "RE: i think Tyrion serves up Varys"
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If he does it wont be before Varys tells who he needs to tell about Jon..

I think he knows more than he lets on that if it is "known" by the right people (possibly golden company) that there is a male targaryen heir.. they might rally behind him.

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20. "Yeah, and Varys already threw Tryrion under the bus once"
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on that good of the realm shit

>If he does it wont be before Varys tells who he needs to tell
>about Jon..

Yeah, i have a feeling Varys gets it early in episode 5.

>I think he knows more than he lets on that if it is "known" by
>the right people (possibly golden company) that there is a
>male targaryen heir.. they might rally behind him.

I didn't read the books but I heard recently that's their background.

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21. "And I still think Tyrion is coming around to Varys's side."
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(Just repeating from the other thread.)

You can tell Tyrion is fully aware that he shouldn't put faith in any monarch. And Dinklage always looks to me like he's trying to be unconvincing when he says things like "A good leader needs to inspire a certain amount of fear."

Maybe Tyrion, Varys, and Jon Snow will chair a Constitutional Convention and enact a system of representative democracy and self-rule in Westeros.


Then in the twist ending it cuts ahead 25 years to Cersei's son Donald Greyjoy winning the presidency (without the popular vote), on an openly racist and anti-wildling platform that promises to rebuild the wall.

  

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23. "I think he's hears Varys' side but also realizes Varys ain't shit."
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This dude is a fair weathered fan who already helped throw Tyrion in the lions pit once, and will do it again now that he's not going along.

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29. "I don't really remember all their background."
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What did Varys do to Tyrion? Honestly the main thing I remember is that he smuggled him out of Westeros and handled his shit for a month.

Did he testify at Tyrion's trial? I vaguely remember that, but I discount it since he sneaked him out of harm's way right after that. I saw it as a bit of necessary misdirection.

  

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31. "yeah he testified that Tyrion threatened Joffrey"
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Tyrion asked him at the trial that if he remembers telling him if it wasn't for him, Stannis would have won. Varys replied with a vague "sadly i don't forget a thing"

And yes he helped smuggle him out which was a noble thing, but Varys knew with Tywin dead king's landing was fucked. With Tywin alive, and Tommen on the throne he would have considered things stable, and Tyrion's death would have been sad but oh well.

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46. "Man I kept thinking a democracy will be how this show ends"
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They are all kicking around the idea that all tyrants end up the same way.


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49. "I'm just fuckin around. I don't actually expect that. "
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I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, but...

  

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264. "You called it. "
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______________________________________________________________________________

"To Each His Reach"

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Fuck aliens.

  

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18. "So much tension in that ep"
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I think the dragons are neck and neck right now with Bran for being totally useless.

They flamed like 100 white walkers and a few Lannisters so far and thats basically it. Meanwhile been eating like 17 goats a day, taking up mad space, and scaring people. 2 just got easily murked.

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25. "Dany's heel turn would be more believable"
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if we got a few more episodes to set it up. With how quickly they need to move everything along, everything she's doing (and all of the other characters) just comes off extremely petty. Same thing with Varys, he has a single disagreement with her and is like "well SHE'S obviously gotta go now." Would've been nice to unfold these a little slower.

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28. "i mean she is kinda losing everything"
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she could've took king's landing last year.

now she's lost two of her dragons, the dothraki, most unsullied, both of her best friends and advisors. Of what she has left, one of her advisors keeps fucking up, while the other one is considering planning to kill her. Her nephew/boyfriend who she just helped fight "his" war, just crushed her dreams, the people she just saved don't seem to like her very much, etc...

i know she's petulant and unreasonable but i'd argue she's been kind of a good sport despite her impulses.

though i do agree the acceleration is killing the writing.

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30. "Yeah, she's not unreasonable at all"
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But I sort of feel like the show wants us to see her as a Mad Queen so we can root for Jon to take the throne he doesn't want.

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33. "If they'd mapped out enough time for all the nuance,"
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they could have turned her story into something really rich about how honest intentions and nobility can be undermined by bad circumstances, ego, rage, human weakness.

Or I feel like they're also flirting with the same thing they did with the Dragons in Essos killing innocent kids. Yeah the Dragons are glorious beings, but they can't fit in human society however much we want them to. They're saying the same thing about the "benevolent dictator."

Maybe they'll get there, on either of these stories or some other one. But they're certainly being more ham-fisted about getting me to hate her than they were about getting me to love her.

  

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36. "Oh man, THIS 100%"
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>But they're certainly being more ham-fisted about
>getting me to hate her than they were about getting me to love
>her.


Sums it up perfectly.

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48. "Lol she never had such noble intentions. It was always her own glory."
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55. "I'd say the show directly and completely refutes that statement ."
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She clearly presents noble intentions, and even makes good on some of those intentions.

For your statement to be true, she wouldn't have fought to free the slaves of Mereen, nor would she have told the Unsullied they could leave if they so chose.

They fought for her of their own choices, and she earned their unyielding support in the process.

Her more selfish motives have been there since she got her dragons, and as you correctly stated, have been seeded this entire time.

That those selfish motives have reached critical mass does not change that she has also had noble motives throughout, because she has inarguably demonstrated the opposite to be true.

The tipping point to me is when Jon came to her she reached a point where she had a chance to break the wheel, she could have granted Jon his crown to forge a true alliance.

Instead, she took his crown, demanded fealty in exchange to fight an enemy that was a threat to all of Westeros, only to turn around and frame that as "Jon's war".

Up to that point, despite her selfish motives growing, there was a clear duality.

  

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60. "yeah its unfair because it implies she's basically just like her brother"
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78. "She's arguably worse, because he was honest about his selfishness"
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She's been able to manipulate everyone far better than he ever could.

Mind you, i was full blown #teamDany in the first season. I thought she was gonna be the one i ride with throughout the series. And im sure she has a bit more good in her than her brother did, so in that sense, he was worse because he was a caricature...but she has ppl thinking she actually cares about the people lol...she only cares about them to the extent where it lets her be a hero. The thought of murdering innocent ppl if it helps her own cause has never phased her.

  

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54. "Absolutely. I don't even see a hell turn"
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>she could've took king's landing last year.
>
>now she's lost two of her dragons, the dothraki, most
>unsullied, both of her best friends and advisors. Of what she
>has left, one of her advisors keeps fucking up, while the
>other one is considering planning to kill her. Her
>nephew/boyfriend who she just helped fight "his" war, just
>crushed her dreams, the people she just saved don't seem to
>like her very much, etc...
>
>i know she's petulant and unreasonable but i'd argue she's
>been kind of a good sport despite her impulses.
>
>though i do agree the acceleration is killing the writing.
>

Like the way they've done it, it just seems like they're throwing her under the bus for having extremely understandable reactions to being put into terrible situations, few of which are due to her mistakes.

And f'k Sansa, her action are just as unjustified. And just as selfish.

I'm all good if Danny turned mad queen, but the way it's been handled and how she's being rail-roaded, has turned me team Dany when I never was before.

In terms of what type of leader she would be... I get it, maybe she can't stack up to the perfect John snow, but against 90% of the monarchsh that came before??? Man, she's better than most. Just nonsensical

  

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58. "me neither, i think it's just a constant tease"
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she no longer has the leverage anyway.

she spent all this time building this, missed her best/easist shot because her advisors told her to lay back, and play the long game. now it's all crumbling, and every time she speaks on her goal, or tries to take charge, people are like... foh entitled ass.

and yeah, i think she has a better gripe than Sansa whose whole rationale seems to be "ionno, i just don't trust that bitch", and a vague reference to Rob on how men do stupid shit for pussy.

and again, Varys ain't shit. What good is having an advisor who will always bounce on you when things get rough? it seems he'll roll any way the wind blows as long as he gets a seat at the table.

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77. "Me neither. Her heel turn was S2. Since then, its just been pregression"
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44. "They been setting it up since S2...every1 just refused to see it"
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61. "Right. Dany has always been terrible at governing and politics"
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She is a fighter and warrior, liberator, but she has always been a "my way or the highway" type. That works fine when you are a foreign invader, doesn't work when you are trying to be a unfied government that requires alliances.

Sansa has a much better sense of politics than Dany, but Dany and Jon always underestimate the value of politicking.


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72. "Yup. "
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Not that she's a tyrant but its always been about her "destiny" and bend the knee. I get she freed the unsullied but lets not act like she didnt do all this so she could have a massive army. If they werent warriors i doubt she would have cared as much

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73. "RE: Yup. "
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LOL I definitely remember that situation as being a 60/40 kind of split. "These guys are some merciless fucking killing machines and you can't possibly counter them with anything contemporary militaries are trained for because they enter into battle with zero emotional investment and elite combat training...and it's cause they don't have dicks or balls and were raised as child soldiers"



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71. "I like that the show had her point out how different Westeros is"
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Kinda like how America thought they could just install a democracy somewhere and have it work. She's learning that the stuff she was good at or loved for across the water doesnt work here. You cant just say "my name is so and so" and expect to be anointed. Westeros follows people that have proven something, unless forced to do otherwise.

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507. "100%"
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especially compared to how they built stuff up in earlier seasons.

this whole season has been action/immediate consequence.

  

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26. "I feel like IF GRRM finishes this shit, it won't go down like this at al..."
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show is still fun as hell, but pretty clearly suffers from the lack of quality source material in the later seasons. The story feels like pretty decent fan fiction with a massive special effects budget - though not enough for some dire wolves...

Then again maybe George wrote himself into a corner and don't know how to wrap this shit up either.

Either way it's TV, so I don't really give a shit. I'm gonna do my best to enjoy it.


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52. "imo... best ending would have been an undead victory"
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105. "supposedly GRRM consulted with the producers. "
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and the finish of the show closely mirrors some plot points that GRRM has in mind for the ending of the book series.
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37. "So, will Grey Worm kill the Mountain? "
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Or will the "You Know Who" that the Hound mentioned kill the Mountian?

And does anyone know who the Hound was talking about?


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42. "That could be a cool action sequence even tho i wanted Arya to "
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59. "he's not on Arya's list"
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her only exposure to him was at Herenhal, and i don't think they interacted

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81. "Yeah but Cersei is, and he guards her. I was thinking more"
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like taking him out to get to her

  

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92. "Wait, didn't the Mountain carry out Ned's execution?"
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I could be remembering wrong, and it's also complicated by the fact that they changed actors.

  

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98. "Nah, that was Ser Ilyn Payne."
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100. "Ah, thanks."
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Now I remember that dude.

  

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111. "and hes podrick's cousin right? what happened to him?"
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because he didn't die on the show

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121. "I think the actor died in real life"
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And they just sort of forgot him in the show.

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128. "Wilko Johnson (Payne) has been battling cancer but he's still alive."
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But, yeah, they just dropped the character.

In the books, it's Payne that trains with Jamie after he loses his hand, not Bronn.

  

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43. "the hound might kill greyworm if he did"
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for robbing him of the chance. And yea 100% it's what he meant

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45. "Himself"
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>And does anyone know who the Hound was talking about?

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51. "There's gonna be a line out the door to kill The Mountain."
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It's gonna be like the death of Jon Snow, only The Mountain is already a zombie.

  

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39. "As alluded to in the previous post, the "Who will sit on the Iron Throne..."
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...is pretty much guaranteed to be a red herring. No one is going to sit on the Iron Throne. I'm guessing Dany is going to use Drogon to physially melt it down. Before she dies somehow.

But as they've been not-at-all subtly hammering home this whole season, the idea of one ruler is going the way of the White Walkers, the Wall, and the Children of the Forest. The pursuit of the Throne corrupts everyone. They're setting up the Jon is going to be the one who "breaks the wheel" and gets Westeros to move on.

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47. "Yeah, I think at this point we can all give zero shits if Dany takes the..."
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50. "That would be dope, independence for all"
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Sansa the Queen in the North
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63. "Completely forgot they mentioned a new prince in Dorne last night"
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Didn't bother to give him a name, though.

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57. "I really hope this is the case. Seems like ppl don't think Jon is "
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... a good leader, and although he does have a lot of Ned in him, he has essentially, on a smaller scale, already broken the wheel twice. As Lord Commander, he united with the Free Folk to protect all of them (which cost him his life), and bent the knee to save the North (which cost him a crown he didn't want but saved his hometown). If you remove the political BS, Jon is actually a solid leader IMO. Give him a good Hand of the King to handle the bureaucracy if it comes down to it

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62. "would Sansa be Jon's "Hand"?"
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125. "I wouldn't be mad at it"
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I was also listened to Talk the Thrones podcast and there's a mini-theory that Jon and Tormund/Ghost's goodbye was foreshadowing and he's gonna end up being one of the Free Folk once it's all over, which I'd be even less mad at

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40. "i read all the leaked spoilers and frankly"
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glad i did

  

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Get out.

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70. "eh this show is on some bullshit mostly"
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so now i cant possibly be any more disappointed in the show


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65. "The whole season leaked ?"
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69. "i dont know if the full episodes leaked"
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but the major plot points for the remainder of the season did

  

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80. "They've done that before and it was horseshit."
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Someone gets the plot leak for an episode thats about to air and then tries to fill in the blanks for the remaining episodes. If i read the same thing you did its happened before and the person tried to pass it off as a leak of the whole season. Im not really buying it

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87. "well every single thing they said would happen in ep 4"
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happened


so i guess we'll see


the point is though im pretty much over the show and wasnt interested in watching the last episodes anyways so i felt the time was right

  

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91. "I pray these last two eps are amazing"
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Im not sure i can watch the other seven seasons with the same passion if i know they fucked up the ending.

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166. "so far pretty much spot on"
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64. "With this episode, the only thing I'm mad about is the pace"
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Loved everything otherwise. Unlike last episode that was legitimately full of awkward pacing and framing, this was a great episode I could only find ways to be mad at because it reminds me of how good this show can be when it's really on it's game and I wish the show could just give itself room to cook.


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66. "Agreed, i thought this was a fantastic episode. "
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67. "yeah the pacing accelerated last season, now its even worse"
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and for all its problems, i really liked this episode too. it felt like its old self in many ways.

but i mentioned in the other post, even Dany wanting things to go back to how it used to be with Jon felt weird, like there was some happy period they had, when it was really about 10 minutes a couple weeks ago.

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68. "Nikolai Coster-Waldau said something revealing to Vanity Fair"
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"Trying to connect the dots between the scenes was a little complicated because you invest so much time, so many years in these characters, so when suddenly you find out that Jaime comes back and his son has committed suicide . . . there’s so many things that obviously you can’t go through, on-screen, all of these moments, but you have to still walk through them in your mind, if you’re an actor, at least talk about them. There was a lot of those connecting the dots throughout."


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75. "Even in earlier seasons there were some gaps, but book readers"
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helped to fill them in. So now i feel like with the advanced pace and lack of book info, you just have to be ok with not understanding certain shit and ignoring some glaring plot holes.

I'm pretty sure this Bran/3 eyed raven shit is never gonna be explained in a satisfactory way in the show.



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74. "Is Sansa a hero or a villain? "
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76. "RE: Is Sansa a hero or a villain? "
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She is both... she is only one who understands the “game of thrones”

She has been trained by the best

To be honest she should sit on the throne..

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89. "I mean, really, does she really understand it?"
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Again, what's the point of telling Tyrion that Jon is the rightful heir? Especially if her goal is to a) keep the Starks together and b) have an independent North. You'd think backing the person who actually wants the Throne and has the real means to attain it would get her closer to her goal.

Sansa is going from smart to dumb really quick. Just like everyone else on this show.

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94. "RE: I mean, really, does she really understand it?"
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>Again, what's the point of telling Tyrion that Jon is the
>rightful heir? Especially if her goal is to a) keep the Starks
>together and b) have an independent North. You'd think backing
>the person who actually wants the Throne and has the real
>means to attain it would get her closer to her goal.
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>Sansa is going from smart to dumb really quick. Just like
>everyone else on this show.

Nah son.. she is playing the little finger game... She knows she needed him to question his absoluteness (about dany).... now that they know they will do what they always do..

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95. "Sansa on the throne is my prediction"
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Jon doesn’t want it

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97. "RE: Sansa on the throne is my prediction"
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Yea tbh I feel like she will be the only person who understands it..

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79. "I used to think she was a villain, but so far in S8 she's been a hero"
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82. "Dany fans hate her"
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Its amazing to go on twitter and instagram and see the lengths people go to do defend their favorite characters actions. Sansa had a major point telling Dany to chill and let the army rest. Dany didnt listen and got her ass handed to her. Dany fans are still trying to pass it off as Sansa being a hater.

And dont get me started on the male/female dynamic. Folks trying to make Thrones into a feminism battle.

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83. " a villain? "
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She didn't keep her word to John.

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114. "in GOTT, keeping your word is highly overrated....unless it's the red we..."
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but yeah.

It's a dumb word to keep.

Her not telling anyone could get Jon killed and his dumb ass doesn't even know it.


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88. "in GRRM world that its not an either or thing"
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she is being set up as the one doing the best at "playing the game of thrones"


  

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93. "Yeah, she's one of the few 'complicated' characters left,"
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now that they've moved on from the source material.

  

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84. "I wish they had stuck with the 10 episode seasons"
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I feel like the story is legit but the time needed to let it marinate and pay off has been taken away. Im assuming it was for budget reasons but i cant for the life of me understand why they shortened the last two seasons. Im enjoying it but it could have ended so much better. Season 6 was that fire

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90. "I guess you can make the argument that they didn't want..."
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...three of the first four episodes to be completely Winterfell-centric. But they removed so many other players off the board that its one of two places left. And no one in King's Landing besides Cersei is really that interesting. And all they've had her do so far this team around is stand on various balconies drinking wine.

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96. "Them dragons aint for shit if you don’\t use them. Always getting got"
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101. "Gendry needs to get to work on some dragon-sized breastplates."
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He's not retired at Storm's End yet.

  

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102. "Why didn't Dany order some armor made for the dragons"
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after she first saw the giant crossbow last season? Or at least after the Night King got Viserion, particularly since they knew they'd be fighting him again?

Everyone but Sansa is so dumb.

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103. "I imagine it’s difficult to get measurements for Dragons"
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and how do you fly with armor thick enough to stop those big ass arrows?

Now that’s dumb.

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104. "There's no way something that strong is going to be unable to fly"
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with a breastplate on. She's their mom, she can get some measurements.

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106. "ppl can barely put clothes on a dog"
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how tf you supposed to get a dragon to chill long enough for you to armor it up lol.

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113. "lol..."
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>how tf you supposed to get a dragon to chill long enough for
>you to armor it up lol.

  

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107. "Again, how does a slow moving ship sneak up on a flying dragon?"
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How does a fleet of ship with Dragons escorting them get rolled up on?


They are just pushing the plot along and we can see where this is heading: Dany will end the series with no dragons and everyone is going to be like, "well why are we listening to the blond with no dragons?"




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108. "Is Rhaegal actually dead? "
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.
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109. "i was thinking that too even though it seemed clear "
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because we saw a bolt split his neck in half

but its GOT and we know how they are with off screen deaths

I could see even a half dead Reghal ambush the fleet next week and maybe falling after

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110. "They are magic right? The Night King was magic so he was deadly "
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on a different level
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112. "I never really considered them magic "
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as much as just extinct beasts in that universe

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115. "I feel like the line "dragons are magic" has been repeated a few times"
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116. "From what I know of the books, it's stated pretty explicitly,"
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that White Walkers are magical beings of ice, and dragons are magical beings of fire.

  

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120. "I mean, these three dragons were born from three stone eggs after..."
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123. "In that case, he can survive a bolt through the neck!"
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#Rhaegallives

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124. "Ha, I don't disagree. "
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This show has never figured out how to use the Dragons or the dire wolves though. Or pretty much anything magic.

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132. "It's also stated explicitly that dragon hide is damn near impenetrable."
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279. "In the books, these scorpions/ballistas existed in the past"
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when the Targaryens last ruled Westeros. And they didn't work. They couldn't penetrate the dragon's hide and were only effective if they could manage a direct shot into their eyes.
So, it's kinda interesting to me that the show took a different approach. And that they hyped the dragons up to be this unstoppable force, before killing two of them very easily (imo), and the having them return to the unstoppable force again.

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117. "What the fuck you mean is he fuckin dead God?"
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Unsullied 1:
Yo, yo, God, word is bond, yo
Rhaegal just got bust in his head two times, God!

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Word life, God. You know Rhaegal from fuckin' Dragonstone, God?
The nigga just got bucked
Niggas in a black ship, God, word is bond
Came through, God, from out of nowhere, God
Word is bond I'm comin' to get my Culture Cipher, God
And they just… word is bond
Crazy shots just went the fuck off, God

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Niggas let off crazy shots, kid

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The nigga layin' there like a fuckin' newborn fuckin' baby, God

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118. "lmao"
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122. "Bravo sir!"
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130. "Just saw a youtube theory video about dragons"
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apparently they think that one of the dragons (forgot which one) left and laid eggs. lol

*edit*

the dragon tyrion and jorah saw in valyria was one of them laying babies.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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134. "I guessed this too but thought it'd be weird with the incest angle"
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lol.

But yeah I'd always thought of them as males but maybe there's a female.
Hell maybe the spontaneously reproduce.

Even those toddler dragons were lighting people up and they'd be impossible to hit with those scorpion arrows.

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136. "In this show, an "incest angle" is a feature, not a bug. "
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119. "Show is okay... GRRM is probably learning what NOT to write about"
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Bran is wasted in this series (I actually liked the progression in his character arc until this season), Dany and Jon arguing over some petty issue, Cersei could have just ended this whole war by shooting every single person outside of King's Landing... I don't know, maybe Martin threw out these ideas to the directors to see how it lands with the audience. Watch him go in a different direction with his books.

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126. "they're gonna promise Bron the throne before this is over"
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as the goofy Bron bidding war continues

or more likely he'll just get killed next week.

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129. "they're going to give him Highgarden then kill him on the throne..."
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a Lannister always pays his debts lol

  

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131. "In one scene they made that character a whole lot less interesting. "
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528. "he's never really been interesting though"
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he's actually the least complicated character

he's a sell sword through and through that would desperately like to become a lord and retire

that's literally it

Tyrion and Jaime made him interesting bc he's a very good sell sword

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135. "He's gonna fuck around and get Arya'd"
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133. "*head nod*"
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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137. "Confession: Me and wife have fallen asleep to every ep. this season. "
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we start off excited but then we end up waking up towards the end talking about "WHAT HAPPEN?"

two more episodes and this shit is over.


When we get near the end of a cultural phenomenon, do you ever think "I wonder what we will be excited for next?"

We went crazy for Breaking Bad, Sopranos, etc...I'm curious whats going to be the new shit in the next few years...then again, the world has changed and we have many things happening simultaneously that are all amazing.

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138. "on a rewatch the dragon thing is so much worse"
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i won't lie, on first watch i thought it was really powerful because it caught me so off guard, but the idea that it should have caught them off guard is absurd.

literally a few minutes before at the war council they were discussing how euron's forces are out there. it would stand to reason if you're not a complete idiot that they place he might ambush would be behind the mountains.

if you can see the dragon and dany a mile up, the dragon can see you.

Supervillain Euron lands 3 clean shots at a moving target a mile up.

Drogon could have rolled around back and flamed the whole fleet, even if the scorpoin had full turn capablity, you cant shoot thorugh your sails, or just fly directly above where they couldn't launch (beacuse if they miss it flies directly down at the ship.

i give the last part somewhat of a pass because I don't think Dany wanted to risk her last "child" and she was disorented, but the rest is all awful.

That said, maybe Dany could've listened to Sansa, and Rheagal could have let the holes in his wings heal up.

On an unrelated note, at the war council Dothraki guy pulled half his pieces off the board. D&D in the aftershow a week before literally told us we witnessed the end of the Dothraki

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139. "My headcanon for this is they won an impossible war with zero strategy"
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So they just figured "fuck it, let's keep doing whatever with no foresight or anything resembling a strategy, because we're all just too damn tired from the White Walkers."

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140. "To be fair, they DIDN'T know that they'd upgraded the ballistas,"
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or that they'd mounted them to the ships.

All that our heroes knew was that Cersei's forces had much smaller ballistas. The only one of which they'd seen was the one on the road that hit Drogon and didn't seem to pierce the skin.

These new ones appeared to launch with an order of magnitude more energy. The only person in this medieval world who seems to think about "technology" as an upgradeable thing is Qyburn, so I can understand them not thinking that the ballistas could have been made much stronger. Also, they'd been distracted.

And leading off from this, if they weren't aware of the upgraded ballistas, or of the fact that they'd been mounted on the ships, then Euron's fleet would have seemed much less of a threat, and really no threat at all to the dragons. And then for the ships, the only reason Euron was able to decimate Dany's fleet was, again, the ballistas.

As for Euron getting off three good shots in a row, I don't think that's how it worked. We saw from the ships' perspective: ALL of the ships had ballistas, and they fired them in volleys like archers. They were sending up like 50 arrows at a time. It's not as surprising that one out of 50 would hit.

This doesn't forgive them for not NOTICING the fleet, apparently not even sending up a simple scout (or maybe the dragons *were* the scouts, if I wanted to continue making excuses...).

  

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141. "Maybe Tyrion just needs to start fucking again"
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He told Jaimie he hadn't gotten any in three years. It's having a reverse George Costanza affect on his skillset.

>The only person in this medieval world who seems
>to think about "technology" as an upgradeable thing is Qyburn,

Qyburn was also correct in his exchange with Tyrion on who has the edge. As cool as I thought the standoff was it still makes no sense Cersei doesn't take everyone out there. If you can get a moving Rhegal in the sky from a boat, the could have easily clipped Drogon, as well as.. everyone. We know Cersei isn't on some Jaimie vs Ned "It wouldn't have been clean" shit. The lady blew up a church full of people.

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142. "Yeah, I can not conjure an explanation for that. "
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Closest I can come is the old "I want it to be more painful than that" movie villain logic (which we did see from Cersei with, uhh, whatsername from Dorne). But that seems like a hell of a stretch given the other issues here.

Regarding Tyrion and Qyburn, yeah, I'd been thinking: if there's one person whose JOB it is to anticipate things like Qyburn's new ballistas, it's Tyrion. So maybe he fucked up again.

The reason I can imagine them not anticipating the upgraded ballistas is because I remember the scene in season 1 where Tyrion gave the Starks the design for a saddle for Bran. It was just a simple bit of engineering but people looked at him like he was some kind of sorcerer.

For the upcoming episode, Tyrion's assignment to invent a thing that destroys ballistas.

  

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145. "I agree that Cersei could've annihilated them right then and there... "
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but that would've been too easy and anti-climatic lol

  

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143. "where tf was Bran?!? Why didn't he warg into a raven to scout?"
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Bran could have seen that there were updated ballistas and warned the Dany and crew, but this terrible writing has him back at Winterfell doingggg whatttt? Peeping at people having sex? Remembering back in the day when he could walk? Shit is infuriating.

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144. "One, you're misremembering things"
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https://youtu.be/YWC0eIquJVU?t=152

So... there's that.
But given the force the scorpions seem to fire with, while mounted on a boat, do you not suspect the recoil, would send the ship rocking, causing waves that send the other ships to rock, making aiming near impossible?

And how does one explain arrows blowing a ship apart like cannonballs?


IMO
that whole shit was poorly conceived, poorly thought out, poorly executed. Pretty much like everything else from the past 2-3 seasons of this show.

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146. "yeah plus the first 3 shots are the only ones we see"
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Granted maybe they all weren't Euron but they all land

After Rheagal goes down you see one more fly by Dany

The only time we see several is when Dany is charging the fleet. Some of those actually had a more realistic shot of landing but dont lol

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153. "That's the only time we see several..."
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because that's the only time we're zoomed out.

If your complaint is that *if* we saw three hits then we would have been likely to see more than one near-miss, then sure, I agree. But probability never predicts things exactly.

Let's estimate that if a bolt enters that close-up frame then there's a 1 in 6 chance of it landing on a dragon (probably pretty conservative, given how much space they fill in the frame, and beyond, in a lot of those shots). Then the odds of it all working out like it did would be the same as the odds of rolling four dice and having three of them come up six. Maybe not likely, but far from impossible or even implausible. It's the kind of unlikely event that occurs all the time even outside of fantasy stories.


Sidenote: The Wire was a much better show than Game of Thrones. It's a shame that I'm using techniques from the plot of The Wire to defend the lazy plotting of Game of Thrones.

  

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152. "I'm a physics professor. I know how recoil works."
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And I think you're hugely overestimating it. The ships are a hell of a lot more massive than the bolts.

Anyway, "aiming" is irrelevant. You don't "aim" bows at long range. You send up a volley of many arrows (or bolts), as they clearly did, and you let probability handle the rest.

>And how does one explain arrows blowing a ship apart like
>cannonballs?

YOU'RE the one claiming the bolts were massive enough to make an entire ship recoil! An impact would impart all that momentum in a much shorter span of time, which means much higher forces (\Delta p = \int F dt), and all it takes for a bolt to start breaking up the wood is for that force to exceed its breaking strain.



As for me "misremembering," it would've hardly been a big deal if I had. This is a damn TV show. You're taking it awfully seriously with the "So... there's that."

But looking at the clip you linked, I don't see what you think I misremembered. The dragon was startled when he got hit, but he wasn't even forced to land. He recovered even before he hit the ground, hovered, and blasted the shit out of the ballista.

When I said it didn't "pierce" the skin, what I meant is that it didn't go through (pierce) the skin and damage any tissue underneath. Yeah, it embedded in the skin and Dany had to pull it out (that much was crucial to the plot, so hard to misremember), but it didn't do any significant harm. It was like kicking a cactus. Those barbed thorns hurt like hell, and they're a motherfucker to remove, but they won't do any harm.



I don't want to be the one defending the writing in this show, because I agree it's been piss poor on balance. But we don't have to invent flaws to make that case.

  

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252. "Lol the fact that you're a physicist is essentially your schtick here br..."
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which is why i even posed those questions to you.
Lol at changing the definition of "pierce the skin" though.
And you are also taking this quite fucking personally as well as seriously so that's a funny thing to point out too

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269. "LOL, "changing the definition.""
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I'm not a surgeon, or a needleworker, or a tailor, or a swordsman, but I'm pretty sure that they'd all agree that to pierce a membrane means to go through it. I'll spare the cliche of reposting the definition, but you're welcome to look it up.

You think I forgot that he got hit? One or two seasons ago (I'm being vague to avoid the dreaded accusation of misremembering) he was hit multiple times with *hand thrown* spears, and they embedded in his skin, too.

So no, in case I was unclear, I was not trying to argue that Dany thought the dragons were invulnerable.

  

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272. "Don't worry, I'll post the definition"
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Because you said "The only one of which they'd seen was the one on the road that hit Drogon and didn't seem to pierce the skin."

The definition of pierce, according to Merriam-Webster is

transitive verb
1a : to run into or through as a pointed weapon does : stab
b : to enter or thrust into sharply or painfully
2 : to make a hole through : perforate
3 : to force or make a way into or through

So "embedding" into skin, as you put it, is doing absolutely what the definition says.

So, yeah, you're changing the definition of the word for your argument. And argument that's pointless now that you've said you weren't implying the dragons were invulnerable. It seemed to me that you were implying just that because you appeared to be saying that Dany had no reason to be wary because the last time they faced off against the scorpions, the bolt didn't even pierce the skin. She absolutely should have been wary because a scorpion bolt did pierce her dragon before, and sent him into freefall before her recovered moments before hitting the ground. And following that having a dragon taken out by another projectile weapon, in the form of the night king's spear... she should have absolutely been wary.

But since you weren't intending the dragons were thought invulnerable, there isn't a point in arguing.
Have a nice day.

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277. "through; through; perforate; through"
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Alright then.

  

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281. "LMAO You can't be serious right now."
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transitive verb
1a : TO RUN INTO or through as a pointed weapon does : STAB
b : TO ENTER OR THRUST INTO SHARPLY OR PAINFULLY
2 : to make a hole through : perforate
3 : TO FORCE OR MAKE A WAY INTO or through

please note the caps.

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290. "You're really still going with this?"
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Do I have to walk you through every single step of your logic fail?

Yes, the word can be taken to mean "into" or "through."

But *I* was the one who used the word. And *YOU* were the one who accused me of misremembering because *YOU* wanted to use some other interpretation.

Let it go. Maybe I could have been clearer, but you misunderstood. That's okay.

  

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310. "RE: You're really still going with this?"
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LMAO
Pots black as shit, man.

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147. "RE: Game Of Thrones Season 8 (part 2)"
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Do we think qyburn and varys are working together?

They have the same little birds and qyburn knew when the wall fell and when they won...

Going back over qyburn telling bron to kill tyrion and jamie and it seems weird that he issued the order not cersei. She has had every opportunity to kill her brothers but hasn't..

Could also mean the ambush on dany was more pre-meditated

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148. "interesting but i don't see it"
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Not sure how much hand of the king pays, but Bron got paid in advance. And Cersei has put a bounty on Tyrion in the past

>Could also mean the ambush on dany was more pre-meditated

Varys was on one of those ships tho.

I do think Varys dies tomorrow night.

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149. "RE: interesting but i don't see it"
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Think about how much money qyburn has access too right now..

He is the one building the crazy scorpions and prepping for the fight.. doubt money would be an issue..

Varys definitely could die... or even wilder GOT time might have tyrion double cross dany (we dont know what his sis and him agreed upon) and die

Varys HAS to be communicating with someone... just who

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150. "my thing is it's not something he'd need to do behind Cersei's back"
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she seems to have a problem killing her brothers when they're in front of her, but not with putting out contracts on them (remember when she had people bringing her dwarf heads?)

I'm not really sure why Varys thinks Jon would turn on Dany (other than bad writing, because Varys isn't that dumb). Like, even if he got him to do it, why would Jon ever trust Varys after that?

I don't think he'll turn Tyrion this late in the game, but I'm also not sold on Dany's inevitable heel turn. I think it's a tease.

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154. "RE: my thing is it's not something he'd need to do behind Cersei's back"
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How many times has jon chose the “honorable” or “righteous” thing over love or any other emotion for that matter...

If varys is driving dany to “madness” by orchestrating scenarios (ambush killing rhaegal) he might be doing so knowing that if jon has to make a choice between unhinged dany and the people of the seven kingdoms he will chose the later

Qyburn could also be plotting in the same way just with cersei ... I mean dude resurrected someone who almost killed him (the mountain). And now fully has cersei’s trust...

If both dany and cersei are cleared off the board then they both could see the realm as having a chance...

We’ll see soon enough though... everything I am saying could be bullshit in a few hours

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155. "That's my point tho. Jon/Ned have tunnel vision in that regard"
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last year Jon blew up the Cersei truce (not that she'd ever honor it) by publicly swearing loyalty to Dany, even when literally saving humanity was on the line.

Jon said "When enough people make false promises, words stop meaning anything. Then there are no more answers - only better and better lies."

And Jon's even more of a boyscout than Ned in that he can't keep this new secret. If he swore loyalty to Dany he's not gonna backstab her through means of some elaborte plot orchestrated by her own advisor.

>If varys is driving dany to “madness” by orchestrating
>scenarios (ambush killing rhaegal)

Again, Varys was on one of those ships, man.

>We’ll see soon enough though... everything I am saying could
>be bullshit in a few hours

i mean we're all wrong about everything that's gonna happen so yeah.

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157. "also either way, i have to re-state. Fuck Varys"
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seeking out Dany and working for her was his fuckin idea

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It's not as though he knew that he'd wind up watching her temperament grow into someone who was likely to become a monster

  

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220. "Lol well I sure nailed this one"
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I'm
>also not sold on Dany's inevitable heel turn. I think it's a
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151. "Cersei sent Qyburn to Bronn with the offer, so she did issue the order."
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>Going back over qyburn telling bron to kill tyrion and jamie
>and it seems weird that he issued the order not cersei. She
>has had every opportunity to kill her brothers but hasn't..
>



Qybrun interrupted Bronn with the prostitutes and says that Cersei told him to hurry.

The reason we don't see her tell Bronn in person is the same reason we've never seen Bronn and Cersei interact ever.

Jerome Flynn and Lena Headey used to date and it would appear it ended badly, hence, no scenes together.

  

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156. "I had to crack up when Sansa asked Tyrion "Why her?""
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158. "Its been a great ride..."
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..watching so much speculation over this series has been hilarious.

Its been extremely difficult not spoiling this series, but clearly tonight's episode will put several theories to rest.

*Kudos to everyone truly paying attention to detail. I'm actually gonna miss watching for clues in the opening credits.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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159. "Wow!!! Fuck Dany."
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Varys and destroying King's Landing is so foul.

Also, the witch's prophecy didn't cone true for Cersei.

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>Varys and destroying King's Landing is so foul.
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>Also, the witch's prophecy didn't cone true for Cersei.

  

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>>Varys and destroying King's Landing is so foul.
>>
>>Also, the witch's prophecy didn't cone true for Cersei.
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So I guess your cool with the slaughter of thousands of innocent people!

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214. "RE: foul my ass"
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>>>Varys and destroying King's Landing is so foul.
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>>>Also, the witch's prophecy didn't cone true for Cersei.
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>
>So I guess your cool with the slaughter of thousands of
>innocent people!

The let bastards, incest lovers rule them, forgot or didnt recognize the dwarf who won a previous battle/war for them, etc etc. And probably would have been lookin at the unsullied with disdain later , let mesendei up there with her hair wet etc. Fuck kings landing.

  

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244. "Why? the penalty for treason is death"
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If she didn't turn Varys into extra crispy
it's a signal that conspiring against her rule and making cause with rivals is ok

As for turning KL into ashes
she was only fulfilling her destiny

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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160. "I don't condone it, but I understand Dany"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Sofian_Hadi
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161. "Nah. She's an entitled asshole. Hope she dies"
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Passed off her liberation as being some messiah when really she just wanted an army and power

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legsdiamond
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168. "Arya is coming for that ass. "
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mrhood75
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198. "Nah, Arya's done with all of this."
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She's sick of being an instrument of death and doesn't want to end up like The Hound.

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rdhull
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200. "until she saw the mother and child burned up"
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>She's sick of being an instrument of death and doesn't want
>to end up like The Hound.

  

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mrhood75
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206. "I think that hammered the point home more than anything."
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She wants no more parts of this.

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rdhull
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212. "you may be right"
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but she probably thinks D as the cause for all this death in KL (instead of Cercei) that needs to be stopped for real peace and rule by Jon

>She wants no more parts of this.

  

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165. "Nah. She could’ve went straight to the Castle and killed Cersie"
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I don’t understand burning the city down over one beheading and Jon’s secret.

That bish is just like her daddy.

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195. "fuck kings landing"
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>I don’t understand burning the city down over one beheading
>and Jon’s secret.
>
>That bish is just like her daddy.

  

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192. "word. Burn.It.All.Down"
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218. "I mean I understood her "fuck it" to a degree"
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but..

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228. "I understand framing it as she was betrayed by everyone."
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The North, Jon, Sansa, Tyrion, and Varys. Only person that she can trust that's left is Grey Worm and Drogon. So, "fuck it, burn them all and rule by fear" make a little sense in terms of story. But it was still too extreme.

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Cold Truth
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225. "You understand the unnecessary murder of thousands of innocent civilians..."
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After she had already won?

And when she could have simply destroyed the red keep?

You understand those things?

  

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511. "only way i can explain it to myself was love"
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she actually fell for jon and when he "betrayed" her that was it. i dont think she wanted to do this from the beginning. shes been pushed in this direction. if jon would had never told her i think she would of held it together. once jon told her then didnt heed her warning about telling sansa and arya she was done. she had lost everything basically.

i saw a meme where they showed dany walking in the throne room when it was snowing back in the early seasons. turns out the snow was really dust.

this episode had me excited to see them winning, they destroyed euron and all the crossbows and that golden army. they had cersei corner, justice was coming.

then dany lost it. i guess in her head she saw this was the only way for her to maintain control.

  

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162. "ok i died laughing at Qyburn's whole brain exploding out"
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(I ain't shit, but it honestly was unexpected)

By far, that and Arya's and the Hound's tender moment was the best part of the episode. Beyond that, this episode was disappointing just like the rest of the season.

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163. "Hope isn’t a plan Cersie"
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I knew Dany was going to go HAM but I didn’t think she was go THAT far.

I think Arya takes her out.

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172. "she's dead i thought?"
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Her and Jaime crushed below the Red Keep?

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201. "when she was in the high castle thinkin things would work out"
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>Her and Jaime crushed below the Red Keep?

  

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207. "That’s why she’s dead. "
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She ain’t have no plan. Just hope and dreams.

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164. "This shit needed to be 10 episodes."
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215. "RE: This shit needed to be 10 episodes."
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Yeah they needed two more character based episodes to make the character arcs soar

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167. "I will take what is mine with fire and blood"
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All the people on the internet complaining were just ignoring everything she said all these years. It was always her way or no way at all.

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169. "Basically no reason to bring all those soldiers to KL"
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This show i swear

  

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170. "at this point it's a hate watch."
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I genuinely wish the Night King had won.

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175. "she trying to get her moneys worth out of those northerners"
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she paid one....maybe two dragons for them

  

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176. "imagine if she had shown up at night lmao"
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would be a 10 minute episode

  

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387. "Thinking on this, and damn that's a genius idea."
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Dragons gotta have better night vision than humans, she coulda came at night, destroyed the ballistas, and come back and wrecked shop the next day with just the single dragon. Smh

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