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"Um Talib Kweli is currently going off on Don Lemon on live tv"


  

          

This is interesting as shit

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Damn live feed is down now on their site! LMAO n/m
Aug 21st 2014
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I'm hoping someone will have a link to it soon
Aug 21st 2014
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http://i.imgur.com/Et9SMT9.jpg
Aug 21st 2014
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it ended well. lol at don le-mon
Aug 21st 2014
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And video *link*
Aug 21st 2014
5
what happened?
Aug 21st 2014
6
Talib bein emo as usual...
Aug 21st 2014
9
Don never heard this??
Aug 21st 2014
7
You stupid yo
Aug 21st 2014
14
I hope there's footage of Talib telling Don to try saying it phoneticall...
Aug 21st 2014
16
He stillsorta fumbled it even after he says he asked
Aug 21st 2014
29
lol, Don was a tad rude and Talib wasn't having it.
Aug 21st 2014
8
c'mon though son...OKP KNOW how Talib be...lol...
Aug 21st 2014
10
      lol oh, we know. But he really wasn't wrong tho.
Aug 21st 2014
11
           he know better though...like he said, he know the game....
Aug 21st 2014
15
           they both made good and bad points.
Aug 21st 2014
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                CNN actually for me has been surprisingly pro-people of Ferguson
Aug 21st 2014
31
                     and I think that that's why Don too offense, HOWEVER, allllllll of CNN's
Aug 21st 2014
34
                     You know what, I usually watch later on at night so I haven't seen
Aug 21st 2014
52
                     This is what I was thinking the whole time.
Aug 21st 2014
36
Sooo that was tense.
Aug 21st 2014
12
Kweli hasn't been looking healthy. Is he okay?
Aug 21st 2014
13
And he was buggin' by the way. Very childish.
Aug 21st 2014
17
lol... you are a funny guy.
Aug 21st 2014
44
      Care to elaborate?
Aug 21st 2014
99
Don came off bigger and Talib came off sensitive nm.
Aug 21st 2014
18
base. seemed like he was really mad don lemon didn't care who
Aug 21st 2014
20
yeah, Talib is arguing on national tv about something really petty
Aug 21st 2014
21
right? talib was like 'you didn't even say hi to me!'
Aug 21st 2014
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      lol
Aug 22nd 2014
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      lol for real
Aug 22nd 2014
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Talib sensitive???? nooooooo waaaaaaaay.....
Aug 21st 2014
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#gutterrainbows
Aug 21st 2014
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This too is true.
Aug 21st 2014
37
yep
Aug 21st 2014
104
That was an Okaytantrum
Aug 21st 2014
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IMRICKJAMESBITCH should have walked into the frame
Aug 21st 2014
27
Talib answers questions like he raps though
Aug 21st 2014
24
Was missing a few dozen "likes"
Aug 21st 2014
67
LOL
Aug 21st 2014
83
Damn. Talib came off like a sophomore. Expected more from him.
Aug 21st 2014
26
Ayo, on the real? Don handled that shit well.
Aug 21st 2014
30
yeah...
Aug 21st 2014
33
No, he did not.
Aug 22nd 2014
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Oh, okay.
Aug 22nd 2014
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i concur
Aug 22nd 2014
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welp
Aug 21st 2014
32
Eh. People's reaction to shit is over the top nowadays...
Aug 21st 2014
35
Yea I think you nailed it.
Aug 21st 2014
39
agreed with everything you said here
Aug 21st 2014
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^^^^^^^^
Aug 21st 2014
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^^^
Aug 24th 2014
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that was unfortunate
Aug 21st 2014
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Men have feelings too. Stop shaming sensitive men.
Aug 21st 2014
40
passionate..
Aug 21st 2014
95
how bout Lander and Lamont Hill. also comedy
Aug 21st 2014
41
wow...I FINALLY understand that Coon Train Coming song....smh
Aug 21st 2014
42
Where the white people at?
Aug 21st 2014
54
at this stage anyone who allows themselves....
Aug 21st 2014
47
I hate to be interrupted, so I get his frustration
Aug 21st 2014
43
exactly.... this is how the news does tho
Aug 21st 2014
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.
Aug 21st 2014
45
wait, what?
Aug 21st 2014
46
      i'll tell it later when i get the time line right lol
Aug 21st 2014
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lol
Aug 21st 2014
49
I was hoping he would have referred to the Kajieme Powell coverage
Aug 21st 2014
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ImRickJamesBitch Won
Aug 21st 2014
51
Man im gonna need celebs to stop going
Aug 21st 2014
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And we're gonna need you to shut the fuck up.
Aug 23rd 2014
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TEAM TALIB.... so yall niggers defending don lemon and CNN now?
Aug 21st 2014
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Which woulda been cool, if he didn't complain about not being greeted
Aug 21st 2014
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that fuckboy lem'on prolly jus found out who Talib was today
Aug 21st 2014
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      Basically. Don & CNN had it coming.
Aug 21st 2014
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have you watched CNN in prime time covering this?
Aug 21st 2014
60
don lem'on hasnt... yes ive kept cnn on too
Aug 21st 2014
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Jake Tapper was callin the police out right on TV how they were
Aug 21st 2014
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Man you are crazy. CNN has been on Point.
Aug 21st 2014
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been on point showing you what they want you to see
Aug 21st 2014
78
      Or what they have been allowed to show.
Aug 21st 2014
85
you're an idiot
Aug 21st 2014
87
That wasn't his biggest complaint...it was one of many. The agitation
Aug 21st 2014
90
You are aware that it's possible to both think Don Lemon is almost
Aug 22nd 2014
128
well, it's OKP
Aug 22nd 2014
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      True that nm
Aug 22nd 2014
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Fuckin groupies. Y'all support artist through anything.#kneepads
Aug 22nd 2014
131
I love when black men EVENTUALLY find a common thread...
Aug 21st 2014
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lets break this down...as an OKPer...yeah, Kweli did aight...
Aug 21st 2014
61
huh?
Aug 21st 2014
62
Talib Kweli Embarrassed the Black Community. Don Lemon was professional
Aug 21st 2014
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he had a gun pulled on him, I wont tell him how to feel
Aug 21st 2014
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      He needs to understand time, place, opportunity, objective, and success.
Aug 24th 2014
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           You need to understand lame cliches and overanalysis.
Aug 24th 2014
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                You need to stop ridding for Hustling Backwards.
Aug 24th 2014
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                     That was also a cliche. : - (
Aug 24th 2014
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Lemon made the first mistake
Aug 21st 2014
66
Talib acting like his name is Bo and shit....
Aug 21st 2014
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oh jesus christ
Aug 21st 2014
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WHAT! Are you serious?
Aug 21st 2014
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If Talib had talked about "white people"
Aug 21st 2014
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      You are right it was DUMB for Talib to say "ALL MEDIA"
Aug 21st 2014
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           Lemon is openly gay and thus destined to burn IYO, he doesn't want ur
Aug 21st 2014
100
                Child Bye!
Aug 21st 2014
103
Lemon himself has been on the ground for days covering the story..
Aug 21st 2014
111
Why we trying to make sense. After all this is OKP. Expect TOKPR
Aug 21st 2014
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Why we trying to make sense. After all this is OKP. Expect TOKPR
Aug 21st 2014
73
Now that I listened, Kweli came off like a bitchy-ass dude
Aug 21st 2014
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As much of a clown as Don Lemon can be...
Aug 21st 2014
75
ive seen kweli on rt news chop it up with abby martin
Aug 21st 2014
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yeah, this is a good interview. (link)
Aug 21st 2014
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I'm sure this video is already trending but I didn't particularly like
Aug 21st 2014
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Talib, God Bless him....he's just NOT a people person
Aug 21st 2014
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Lemon DID cut him off, twice. And he was probably being a cunt
Aug 21st 2014
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pleas!....pleas! pleas.... pleas pleas pleas pleas (c) James Brown
Aug 21st 2014
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Lemon: "Don't be dissin' Massa!" Kweli: "YOU STEPPED ON MY CHUCKS!!"
Aug 21st 2014
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precisely
Aug 21st 2014
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accurate
Aug 22nd 2014
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accurate
Aug 22nd 2014
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Admittedly, Kweli was very charged & it peppered his responses
Aug 21st 2014
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in the court of public opinion, perception is 9/10 of the law
Aug 22nd 2014
139
If them niggas go fade I got money on Don.
Aug 21st 2014
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I'd take that bet, double or nothing...
Aug 21st 2014
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      I'd go as high as a c-note. Even if I lose
Aug 21st 2014
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           thats all you wanna see anyways.. tell the troof!! lol
Aug 21st 2014
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                i really think Don would put hands on Kwe, though.
Aug 21st 2014
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                     I don't think he'd bitch up, but I can't see him k.o.ing Kweli, tho.
Aug 21st 2014
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                          Don Lemon got pent up rage against niggas. He'll fold Talib.
Aug 21st 2014
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                               plus Talib just feels like a talker and not a fighter.
Aug 21st 2014
110
                                    That too.
Aug 21st 2014
112
                                    very true
Aug 22nd 2014
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both of them look bad
Aug 21st 2014
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pretty underwhelming
Aug 21st 2014
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Lol he sounds like the Mad Rapper on
Aug 21st 2014
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talib lost
Aug 21st 2014
113
#TeamTalib
Aug 21st 2014
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the killer mike interview was alot better
Aug 21st 2014
115
what a difference
Aug 21st 2014
117
in talib kweli's defense
Aug 21st 2014
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good interview
Aug 21st 2014
119
killer killed it
Aug 22nd 2014
129
Killer Mike is better at everything than Talib tho nm
Aug 22nd 2014
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this is also true
Aug 22nd 2014
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^^^^^Yep
Aug 22nd 2014
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lmao
Aug 22nd 2014
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Anderson Cooper is better at everything than Don Lemon.
Aug 22nd 2014
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      are you two friends?
Aug 22nd 2014
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      . . .
Aug 22nd 2014
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totally
Aug 22nd 2014
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^^^ and this is my issue with the Kweli interview
Aug 23rd 2014
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I love how Killer Mike understands Time, Place, Situation, and Objective
Aug 24th 2014
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Absolute train wreck.
Aug 21st 2014
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As a side note....
Aug 21st 2014
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CNN has never been right wing.
Aug 21st 2014
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      Uhhhh...I'm not sure if we're talking the same time period.
Aug 21st 2014
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           ever
Aug 21st 2014
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           having worked on the network's programming from '93-95 and positioning
Aug 22nd 2014
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           unless you are talking about shows with hosts like Lou dobbs,
Aug 22nd 2014
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           RE: Uhhhh...I'm not sure if we're talking the same time period.
Aug 22nd 2014
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           to be fair... all of corporate media was eating the poo poo
Aug 22nd 2014
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I've started using Don Lemon as a litmus test for rational black people
Aug 22nd 2014
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All that aside, he looked like an idiot here.
Aug 22nd 2014
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      Just curious, what makes you think Don looked like an idiot?
Aug 22nd 2014
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      He's the nigga who work at McD's who defends the whole company
Aug 22nd 2014
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           Keep those knee pads on. You stay defending artist.
Aug 22nd 2014
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           Don is much more than just "the guy on fries" for CNN. He's the face
Aug 22nd 2014
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           LOL. And Anderson Cooper is a better professional.
Aug 22nd 2014
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                OHHHHHH you don't know what you're talking about. Gotcha.
Aug 23rd 2014
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           he's cut off PLENTY of white people who've made generalizations
Aug 22nd 2014
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                yep. Don is an equal opportunity cutter-off-er lol
Aug 22nd 2014
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                So he's generally unprofessional and bitchmade?
Aug 22nd 2014
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                     we disagree...
Aug 23rd 2014
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                          Really sorry if I put words in your mouth, but again...
Aug 23rd 2014
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                               appreciate that, dogg *respect*
Aug 23rd 2014
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                                    Ba...you got niggas in here talking "Kweli set the cause back."
Aug 23rd 2014
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                                         well, you know i'm against that as well
Aug 23rd 2014
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                                              Fair. And I always welcome difference of opinion. n/m
Aug 23rd 2014
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      that's not what i took from this...
Aug 22nd 2014
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Shit... Don Lemon is 48 years old?
Aug 22nd 2014
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I like how said he was leaving and turned slowly
Aug 22nd 2014
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hohoho...yah for sure.
Aug 22nd 2014
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Is this behind the scenes footage? Or was this shit really on TV? lol
Aug 22nd 2014
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it was live. I was like is anyone but me seeing this shit. Lol
Aug 22nd 2014
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BTW, Talib Kweli is not backing down one day later (link)
Aug 22nd 2014
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That's a legit gray area
Aug 22nd 2014
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does Kweli not understand that just because Don did not personally
Aug 22nd 2014
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nah, "nicole" invited him
Aug 22nd 2014
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      Lol
Aug 22nd 2014
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Talib Kweli needs to just go sit down
Aug 22nd 2014
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That "Can I finish" talking heads ish is the worst.
Aug 22nd 2014
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yep... but networks love that shit.
Aug 22nd 2014
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Can I finish?
Aug 24th 2014
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kinda hard to respect a black man that sound like kim possible.
Aug 22nd 2014
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The problem is 'Lib wasn't trying to preach beyond the choir
Aug 23rd 2014
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EXCELLENT point
Aug 23rd 2014
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CNN had a ton of ppl on that night and the next day who already
Aug 23rd 2014
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if his goal was to attack the media coverage it was a dumb goal
Aug 23rd 2014
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Pushes chair out, stands up, and starts that classic Slow Clap.
Aug 23rd 2014
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"Lack of tactics." "Setting the cause back." Its like a cliche party.
Aug 23rd 2014
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      Shut yo bitch ass up
Aug 23rd 2014
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           Lulz. You said "set the cause back." You lost, bro. Give it up.
Aug 23rd 2014
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                Nah fam u ranked #1 in okp's Bitchmade poll.
Aug 23rd 2014
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                "Bitchmade poll" is another cliche that is "setting the cause back."
Aug 23rd 2014
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                ol hugh madson ass "but he made get by he can't make mistakes"
Aug 23rd 2014
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                     Lulz. You're setting the fat, smelly kid "cause back" with your cliches
Aug 23rd 2014
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Lemon was belittling him from the jump
Aug 24th 2014
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Zero chance he talks to Sean Penn or Susan Sarandon this way
Aug 24th 2014
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What? Lemon was belittling him from the jump?
Aug 24th 2014
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Yall still holding a Grudge against Kweli
Aug 24th 2014
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I agree about Kweli's general topic, but time/place/execution was wrong
Aug 24th 2014
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1. "Damn live feed is down now on their site! LMAO n/m"
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2. "I'm hoping someone will have a link to it soon"
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3. "http://i.imgur.com/Et9SMT9.jpg"
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http://i.imgur.com/Et9SMT9.jpg

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4. "it ended well. lol at don le-mon"
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I had to rewind and watch it again. Apparently talib don't care about dons job. But don still sacrificed for him.

  

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5. "And video *link*"
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http://therightscoop.com/watch-don-lemons-train-wreck-of-an-interview-with-activist-rapper-talib-kweli/

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/let-me-finish-don-lemons-interview-with-rapper-talib-kweli-descends-into-chaos/

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6. "what happened?"
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it's sounds like TK didn't go off ON Donnie as much as he went off on the show....

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9. "Talib bein emo as usual..."
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7. "Don never heard this??"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZ0y82zGFY

  

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14. "You stupid yo"
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16. "I hope there's footage of Talib telling Don to try saying it phoneticall..."
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29. "He stillsorta fumbled it even after he says he asked"
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Kweli how to pronounce it.

I soooo wanted to @ him with "yo @donlemon, you pronounce his name "KWA-LEE", any questions? (link to this video)" but I've already been correcting CNN anchors this week already.

  

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8. "lol, Don was a tad rude and Talib wasn't having it."
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10. "c'mon though son...OKP KNOW how Talib be...lol..."
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11. "lol oh, we know. But he really wasn't wrong tho."
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Don was interupting him, and he called him out on it. Don spun it well, tho.

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15. "he know better though...like he said, he know the game...."
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he shoulda known the producers woulda been screaming in Don's ear soon as he fired shots at CNN...
shoulda just save that bit for the end.
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19. "they both made good and bad points."
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Talib is right that some of the media has spun the stories in Ferguson in a negative light. Too bad Don took that statement personally, because Talib wasn't initially talking about Don. Talib is right that some CNN online stories have been negative, and while Don is right that the network isn't responsible for all of those stories, it all falls under the umbrella of CNN.

It was weird how Talib took Don's greeting of him so personally. At that point it just seemed like egos colliding. But it was also strange how Don tried to tell Talib that he didn't know what was happening on the streets in Ferguson, and I'm glad Talib stood his ground.

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31. "CNN actually for me has been surprisingly pro-people of Ferguson"
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and anti-police. They discuss militarization of the police and how it's a problem, they discuss police ratcheting up the tension levels by grabbing their riot gear, they commend the meaning behind the protests, so the fact he takes an important opportunity to be interviewed and discuss the organizations he names in the last ten seconds of the interview to nitpick about one sentence in one article on the CNN website that is not fucking accurate is really a waste. Stay focused, man. Maybe the whole week got him tense and mistrusting. To be honest anybody who has been out representing the people of Ferguson and enduring the stresses of that for a prolonged time might have not even been as good as Talib in speaking about the situation, so...

  

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34. "and I think that that's why Don too offense, HOWEVER, allllllll of CNN's"
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coverage has not been pro-Ferguson people.

Yes, Anderson, Don and Jake Tapper have been pro-the people, but many of the CNN online articles and filler shows have been bullshit. Poppy nem paraded kevin Jackson, larry elder and ben ferguson unchallenged for days. Only 2 nights ago did they finally put them up against folx who would counter their bullshit. I can see how that would leave a bad taste in the mouths of the people like Talib who are there on the ground.

Still, the manner in which Talib ranted was childish. He made some decent points, but he could have conducted himself better.

To be honest, when Talib turned his back and threatened to not do the interview, I'm surprised Don didn't just say ok and move on.

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52. "You know what, I usually watch later on at night so I haven't seen "
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the CNN fuckery. That kind of stuff never comes as a surprise to me. When they get things right, I'm like, hmmmm what's their REAL agenda here?

  

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36. "This is what I was thinking the whole time."
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>Maybe the whole week got him tense and mistrusting. To be
>honest anybody who has been out representing the people of
>Ferguson and enduring the stresses of that for a prolonged
>time might have not even been as good as Talib in speaking
>about the situation, so...

I think that's really what it is. I think he's really representative of the high emotions and sensitivity in the atmosphere down there and it came through in the way he was speaking and his overall tone and mental state in that interview. Tough to just turn it off.

And I think he was getting somewhere good at the beginning but he was so emotional that he let the interview devolve, which is sad because now people can just write off what his original point was and be like "that dude cray".

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12. "Sooo that was tense. "
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I can't even finish the video. Too much arguing.

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13. "Kweli hasn't been looking healthy. Is he okay?"
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17. "And he was buggin' by the way. Very childish."
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44. "lol... you are a funny guy. "
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99. "Care to elaborate?"
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18. "Don came off bigger and Talib came off sensitive nm."
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20. "base. seemed like he was really mad don lemon didn't care who"
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he was
he did all that let me speak stuff only to continually cut don off when it was his time to talk
nevermind the whole turning his back only to turn back around and ask if he can speak now, lol. very childish

  

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21. "yeah, Talib is arguing on national tv about something really petty"
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while he's supposed to be representing this WAY bigger situation/ problem....he's silly....

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28. "right? talib was like 'you didn't even say hi to me!'"
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lol wtf?


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167. "lol"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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171. "lol for real"
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23. "Talib sensitive???? nooooooo waaaaaaaay....."
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25. "#gutterrainbows"
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37. "This too is true."
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104. "yep"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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22. "That was an Okaytantrum"
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27. "IMRICKJAMESBITCH should have walked into the frame"
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and said "Told yall".

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24. "Talib answers questions like he raps though"
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wordswordswordswordswords

Talk about a wasted opportunity. 5 minutes of discussing Talib feeling disrespected.

  

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67. "Was missing a few dozen "likes""
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83. "LOL"
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26. "Damn. Talib came off like a sophomore. Expected more from him."
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Don came off like the grown man in this exchange.

Wild how this story has kinda transformed Don Lemon.

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30. "Ayo, on the real? Don handled that shit well. "
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Talib can't implore the nigga to not interrupt him then constantly interrupt Don when he tries to explain himself 2 minutes later...

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33. "yeah..."
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142. "No, he did not. "
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That wasn't very professional or intelligent on Lemon's
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146. "Oh, okay."
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174. "i concur"
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and he topped it off with, "this is how it is at the kitchen table."

i can relate to that.

then he ended it with asking, "are we good?" and TK said yeah, so i think despite the awkwardness, it was just two dudes arguing issues and it ended well. not suitable for TV necessarily, but im not mad at either one of them.

  

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32. "welp"
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35. "Eh. People's reaction to shit is over the top nowadays..."
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I didn't think it was that bad, Talib was hype (understandable given the situation), Lemon was corporate (understandable given the situation). They squashed it like men. Would have I preferred for an actual discussion to take place? Of course. But they both have narratives they're trying to fill. Maybe it's me, but I remember people going off way worse on live TV/broadcast news back in the day. This is actually a bit refreshing.

Streets won't let me chill.

  

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39. "Yea I think you nailed it."
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Like you said, given their respective situations and positions they both were understandably the way they were. And like you said, it's too bad it had to devolve because Kweli had some actual substantive things to say...Don just had producers in his ear on some "DON'T LET HIM TRASH TALK THE MEDIA" which is why it started to go downhill, then Kweli's emotions took it deeper into that hole.

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77. "agreed with everything you said here"
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the way ppl were talking about it, I was expecting much more when I 1st started watching

  

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82. "^^^^^^^^"
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198. "^^^"
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38. "that was unfortunate"
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the amount of time spent talking about the issue vs them having a slap-fight was totally out of wack

that was more about "respect me" vs "don't lump me in with that ish"

when he said "keep this about Michael Brown" it very much was a facepalm moment

wasted opportunity for both

  

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40. "Men have feelings too. Stop shaming sensitive men."
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It's an emotional situation. Sometimes, a rapper just gets all up in his feelings and can't help it.

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95. "passionate.."
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Sensitivity is the word yall wanna stick to in here...monogamously even

  

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41. "how bout Lander and Lamont Hill. also comedy"
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/racism-is-not-a-major-problem-larry-elder-and-marc-lamont-hill-shout-at-each-other-on-cnn/

  

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42. "wow...I FINALLY understand that Coon Train Coming song....smh"
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54. "Where the white people at?"
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Great, now that song is gonna be stuck in my head all day.

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47. "at this stage anyone who allows themselves...."
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...to be put in the same context as larry elder deserves what they get

he been doing the same thing for a couple of decades

don't get mad at the rabid dog if it dog bites...again

  

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43. "I hate to be interrupted, so I get his frustration"
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How are u gonna ask me why I feel a certain way, then interrupt me mid-sentence to tell me that I'm wrong? Don could have yielded, then said "well we are trying to be balanced, but I'm sorry u felt that way", but he was hitdogging. U can't have an objective discussion with someone who clearly is not trying to be objective. Don went on to say that there were thousands of stories and it was only his perspective, but it sounded like Talib was speaking on a specific incident that he was involved in.

Talib did seem a lil' sensitive about their greeting and even if it went down the way he said, he shouldn't have used that time to bring it up. Don works on tv daily as a journalist/host and should know how to diffuse the situation better.


  

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48. "exactly.... this is how the news does tho"
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they ask a question and then interrupt you if you don't answer the way they want.

I know CNN and other stations have people in their ear telling them to jump in but dammit.

Can I finish a sentence? One damn sentence before you talk over me?

  

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45. "."
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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46. "wait, what?"
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79. "i'll tell it later when i get the time line right lol"
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49. "lol"
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HA

  

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50. "I was hoping he would have referred to the Kajieme Powell coverage"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlf80UTfuuI

now that the video is out there

yeah, they lied.

CNN tell the truth!

woulda been dope if Kweli stayed on point

even the Gaza coverage has been biased

but he made it personal, while saying we should focus on Michael Brown

somehow, he made it about him.

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51. "ImRickJamesBitch Won"
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53. "Man im gonna need celebs to stop going"
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176. "And we're gonna need you to shut the fuck up."
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55. "TEAM TALIB.... so yall niggers defending don lemon and CNN now?"
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their coverage has been piss poor...they aint had naaan video coverage of naan nigga throwing molotov cocktails or none of the shit...

wheres your video of the SHIT YOU saw DON??

Fuck CNN

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56. "Which woulda been cool, if he didn't complain about not being greeted"
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properly for most of the interview

but Don, you didn't even say Hi to me

I was expecting Kweli to hit em' with hammer

but he was standing in the corner pouting

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57. "that fuckboy lem'on prolly jus found out who Talib was today"
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fk that nigga

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59. "Basically. Don & CNN had it coming."
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It just took a rapper from Brooklyn to check them on their bullshit.

  

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60. "have you watched CNN in prime time covering this?"
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Jake Tapper been on "fuck the police" all week

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63. "don lem'on hasnt... yes ive kept cnn on too"
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69. "Jake Tapper was callin the police out right on TV how they were"
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antagonizing the crowd...


>Jake Tapper been on "fuck the police" all week

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65. "Man you are crazy. CNN has been on Point."
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78. "been on point showing you what they want you to see"
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85. "Or what they have been allowed to show."
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87. "you're an idiot"
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his biggest complaint in the video was how HE was greeted lol foh..



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90. "That wasn't his biggest complaint...it was one of many. The agitation "
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Began when lemon cut him off. He also was bothered that he wasn't treated with basic human decency of hello

Lemon has prolly been treating all those "ghetto pants saggers" that way since he's been out there

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128. "You are aware that it's possible to both think Don Lemon is almost"
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always full of shit while also noting that he wasn't exactly in the wrong here... right?

I mean, do y'all niggas really like to try to make everything a fucking Great Taste/Less Filling debate?

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152. "well, it's OKP"
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159. "True that nm"
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131. "Fuckin groupies. Y'all support artist through anything.#kneepads"
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58. "I love when black men EVENTUALLY find a common thread..."
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TALIB KWELI was awesome in this clip, I felt the fervor and the heart for the situation ON BUBBLE in Ferguson, Missouri, and it was dope to see him not give a f*ck about the camera or Don, and just go in with what he saw as an eyewitness..

Don was in anchor mode at 1st, but kudos to even him for recognizing a GOOD brother and helping him overstand how it goes, and what the meaning was behind his methodology..

I hate when people run up on me without hello or introduction, especially people of color, and it was a great moment in TV regarding US.

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61. "lets break this down...as an OKPer...yeah, Kweli did aight..."
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but in the grand scheme of things....his actions and reactions severely crippled what could have been a much stronger moment....

Instead of "Rapper Talib Kweli provides strong insight on the situation in Ferguson" we'll get "Rapper & CNN Anchor argue on live TV"
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62. "huh?"
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>I hate when people run up on me without hello or introduction,
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64. "Talib Kweli Embarrassed the Black Community. Don Lemon was professional "
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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktv6IcDaozk


I watched the whole exchange it was awful to see Talib Kweli make an ass of himself.

The interview started off good until Talib Kweli made a DUMB statement about the media doing a terrible job regarding the discrimination of information. I work from home and CNN has been doing an awesome job with the coverage, tough questions, and follow-up street interviews.

Talib Kweli came off as an angry conspiracy theorist and he has an attitude and acted like a child with negativity. Talib Kweli acted like a straight child, a real unprofessional person and he embarrassed Hip Hop and Black men everywhere. I hope that he reviews the interview later and writes and open letter of apology.

Don Lemon Schooled Talib Kweli and I commend that mans patience.

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88. "he had a gun pulled on him, I wont tell him how to feel"
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i dont agree with the people who say he did well, but I understand his emotional state

  

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197. "He needs to understand time, place, opportunity, objective, and success."
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199. "You need to understand lame cliches and overanalysis. "
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You also need to discover deodorant, you stinky nerd

  

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202. "You need to stop ridding for Hustling Backwards. "
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208. "That was also a cliche. : - ( "
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You pissy poor little dweeb

  

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66. "Lemon made the first mistake"
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He didn't have to go all #notallmedia. You know when Talib says "media" he's talking about in general. If he would have specifically pointed his finger at CNN, then Lemon would've had an in. He didn't, and Lemon was overly defensive about it.

That said, "you asked how to pronounce my name" was so fucking petty. That's not really that uncommon.

But LMAO @ the "we good?" at the end. Marc Maron couldn't have done it better.

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68. "Talib acting like his name is Bo and shit...."
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71. "oh jesus christ"
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Is it that hard for a TV professional to learn how to pronounce an interview subject's name BEFORE the interview?

That's unprofessional as hell at best, and intentional mockery at worst

  

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70. "WHAT! Are you serious?"
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>He didn't have to go all #notallmedia. You know when Talib
>says "media" he's talking about in general. If he would have
>specifically pointed his finger at CNN, then Lemon would've
>had an in. He didn't, and Lemon was overly defensive about
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NO Talib attacked all media, while talking to a person in the media and then attacked CNN specifically.




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76. "If Talib had talked about "white people""
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And Anderson Cooper spent the next two minutes telling him "not all white people do that," it would've been dumb.

Still dumb here.

Not that Kweli made himself look great, but Lemon basically took a super general statement and derailed the conversation with his hurt feelings.

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86. "You are right it was DUMB for Talib to say "ALL MEDIA" "
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Lemon Son'ed him

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100. "Lemon is openly gay and thus destined to burn IYO, he doesn't want ur"
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103. "Child Bye!"
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111. "Lemon himself has been on the ground for days covering the story.."
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and being very fair.

So he had the same right to defend the media (which does include him) as Talib would have if someone made a general statement about protesters.

Talib would (and does) have the SAME issue with people making general statements.

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72. "Why we trying to make sense. After all this is OKP. Expect TOKPR"
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73. "Why we trying to make sense. After all this is OKP. Expect TOKPR"
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74. "Now that I listened, Kweli came off like a bitchy-ass dude"
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Shit went off the rails early. Talib was kinda "sensitive" about everything. Real talk, he came off like a pussy. Don stayed calm. I can't even hate on Mr. Lemon for this shit. Kweli conducted himself like he's never been interviewed before. It's an interview, not a HS cafeteria conversation.

Lemon did allow himself to get off subject, but Kweli REFUSED to calm down until his feelings were addressed. Complaining and shit, talking all fast, threatening to leave, running down a list of things that he felt disrespected him, not calming down, not letting shit go, taking everything personal, etc.

Kweli always sounds like he just inhaled a few helium balloons. No bass, yo.

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75. "As much of a clown as Don Lemon can be..."
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he came off looking good here.

  

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80. "ive seen kweli on rt news chop it up with abby martin"
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you actually get a decent conversation. what else would you expect from cnn?

  

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116. "yeah, this is a good interview. (link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpzdY5CXwLs

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81. "I'm sure this video is already trending but I didn't particularly like"
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watching that...but I'm glad they ended the interview on a good note...

Talib went from 0 to 100 in matter of a minute

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84. "Talib, God Bless him....he's just NOT a people person"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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89. "Lemon DID cut him off, twice. And he was probably being a cunt "
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And didn't show basic human courtesy and say hello

If lemon wanted to respond to a specific point he should have noted that in his head and responded when kweli was at least finished telling his account....the same account which lemon asked him to share

Lemon got unnecessarily defense and that wasn't professional at all

Plenty of cnn correspondents wait and respond to several points after their guest has answered their questions so he is full of it

And a lot of y'all showing ur respectability politics by shitting in kweli here

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91. "pleas!....pleas! pleas.... pleas pleas pleas pleas (c) James Brown"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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92. "Lemon: "Don't be dissin' Massa!" Kweli: "YOU STEPPED ON MY CHUCKS!!""
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Y'all can read that title and save yourself about 2 minutes plus of your life.

I am SO disappointed that this is what cats were getting all "GET EM KWELI" over.

Come the fuck on.

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94. "precisely"
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>I am SO disappointed that this is what cats were getting all
>"GET EM KWELI" over.
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137. "accurate"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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138. "accurate"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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93. "Admittedly, Kweli was very charged & it peppered his responses"
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but can you blame him?

Don did handle it well, but he was being a dick, let's be clear.

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139. "in the court of public opinion, perception is 9/10 of the law"
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I hate it

  

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96. "If them niggas go fade I got money on Don."
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101. "I'd take that bet, double or nothing..."
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102. "I'd go as high as a c-note. Even if I lose"
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I got to see Don Lemon get his ass kicked.

Worth the price of admission.

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105. "thats all you wanna see anyways.. tell the troof!! lol"
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>I got to see Don Lemon get his ass kicked.
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>Worth the price of admission.

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107. "i really think Don would put hands on Kwe, though."
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108. "I don't think he'd bitch up, but I can't see him k.o.ing Kweli, tho."
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109. "Don Lemon got pent up rage against niggas. He'll fold Talib."
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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110. "plus Talib just feels like a talker and not a fighter."
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like he'd get hit in his open mouth.

fuck you.

  

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112. "That too."
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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153. "very true"
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97. "both of them look bad"
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talib looks worse :-/

  

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98. "pretty underwhelming"
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as much as this is trending i was expecting more, i guess.
kinda annoying 6 minutes.

  

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106. "Lol he sounds like the Mad Rapper on "
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Biggies old joints. I was just laughing at his ass, first he said he didn't speak then he said he said hi. wtf!!!! Two black men died and cold blood And he's mad because he didn't greet him they way he wanted to be greeted. Smdh

  

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113. "talib lost"
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114. "#TeamTalib"
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I'm glad he kept it raw. Don had hurt feelings over the media thing.

Don interrupted Kweli's comments.

Talib kept it all the way real.

The name thing is important too.

It was very opportunistic of Don to want Kweli on as a "raptivist" but once Talib said some real shit he wanted to reel him in.

Le'mon is an on air personality so he's going to have allegiance to that, but if you gonna report from the field be prepared to deal with some field niggas.

I'm so glad Talib called them out on that slanted coverage. Media and the White House been on that "unruly protestors" tip.

Keep it up Kweli if you lurkin.

Nigga I'm FAST....*pyoon*
ARE YOU TRYING TO RACE?!

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115. "the killer mike interview was alot better "
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http://rollingout.com/videos/killer-mike-cnn/



*professional lurker*

  

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117. "what a difference "
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If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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118. "in talib kweli's defense"
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killer mikes interview takes place in studio
they're on the ground in ferguson for talib's interview
his life was threatened (according to his tweets) just the night before
niggas nerves is probably mad rattled
then add that to his already kinda shitty attitude
and you get his interview with don lemon
lol

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119. "good interview"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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129. "killer killed it"
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133. "Killer Mike is better at everything than Talib tho nm"
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Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

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134. "this is also true"
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listening to run the jewels right now.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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141. "^^^^^Yep"
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144. "lmao"
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www.royallegacy.org
http://therapfest.com/up-next-artists/

  

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147. "Anderson Cooper is better at everything than Don Lemon. "
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But don't let OE get in the way of a silly OKP
pile on featuring dumb niggas who think its smart
to shit on Kweli

Y'all are a bunch of punks

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168. "are you two friends?"
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is it not smart to make fun of talib?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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170. ". . . "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

fuck you.

  

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135. "totally"
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Stoicism and chill.
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Stay +.
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181. "^^^ and this is my issue with the Kweli interview"
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now that it's popping up on my timeline...

...on some, look at these guys arguing...

how many people are going to see this Killer Mike interview?

and he's actually kicking some real shit

but because him and Becky didn't get into an argument

most people won't care

SMH!

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205. "I love how Killer Mike understands Time, Place, Situation, and Objective"
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Clearly he knows that the reporter has a job to ask tough questions, will interrupt for clarity and he's not phased one bit.

Talib should take a page from this book.


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120. "Absolute train wreck."
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Terrible television


does it really matter?

vote for bin: http://tinyurl.com/qz8zep5

  

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121. "As a side note...."
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I think the emergence of fox news has really helped CNN. They used to be much farther right. They've now taken a mostly central position (between fox and msnbc).....perhaps even a tad left.

I remember watching the build-up to the Iraq war (the sequel). It's crazy how much more right-wing they used to be.

  

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122. "CNN has never been right wing."
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They used to be much more centrist than they are now, and many on the right saw them as a leftist news org.

Consequently, Fox News was launched as an alternative to CNN.

Msnbc then took on a more leftist positioning. So, CNN was then in a position where reporting right down the center no linger worked for them (they began losing their #1 spot to Fox, and Msnbc was a force on the left), so what we have now is a more tabloidesque CNN. They still consider themself to be centrist, and in comparison to fox, they seem left...but really it's just extremes on both sides now on a network without a real voice.

Their breakout shows in prime time and morning slots like ac360, cuomo's show and Don lemon's show have a voice that skews a bit left, but as a network, CNN has lost its voice.

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123. "Uhhhh...I'm not sure if we're talking the same time period."
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CNN in 1990, 95, 2000? Maybe I'm wrong. But i remember it being very conservative. Much more than now in any case.

  

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124. "ever"
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>CNN in 1990, 95, 2000? Maybe I'm wrong. But i remember it
>being very conservative. Much more than now in any case.

  

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125. "having worked on the network's programming from '93-95 and positioning"
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In 2000, I can assure you that the network has never been far right.

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126. "unless you are talking about shows with hosts like Lou dobbs,"
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Tucker Carlson and newt Gingrich, etc. over the years

They've always had some right leaning hosts and shows in their programming as part of their effort to be "balanced."

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127. "RE: Uhhhh...I'm not sure if we're talking the same time period."
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>Maybe I'm wrong.

There's no "maybe" to it. From the time noted liberal Ted Turner started the network to now, it's always been a left-leaning network. Sorry, bro.

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130. "to be fair... all of corporate media was eating the poo poo"
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when the ramp-up to Iraq was happening. there was a period post-9/11 and pre-Iraq where you couldn't challenge the status quo at all.

Phil Donahue and Ashleigh Banfield famously either lost their jobs or stepped off because they veered off script back then.

  

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132. "I've started using Don Lemon as a litmus test for rational black people"
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dude been at CNN over a decade and has moderated plenty of on-air "debates" centered on race and was ALWAYS seen as an advocate for black folks. throughout the trayvon coverage, he checked several conservatives--black, white, whatever--who attempted to inject black crime into the conversation.

no one had a thing to say about don lemon until he got fed up after that verdict and out of sheer frustration and exhaustion said something plenty of black folks say in the company of other black folk.

now, he's a meme. cool.

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140. "All that aside, he looked like an idiot here. "
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And at the end of the day, the OKP demographic thinks
that picking on the conscious rapper makes them look smart.

I don't have a real horse in this race, but Lemon looked
like the bigger idiot here. That's not really up for debate.

All these other agendas are fucking up everyone's judgements.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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143. "Just curious, what makes you think Don looked like an idiot?"
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145. "He's the nigga who work at McD's who defends the whole company"
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The dude who legitimately sides with the company in
matters that have nothing to do with the batch of
fucking fries that they are responsible for.

He's a journalist, and he was defending the entire network's
coverage.

That's idiotic. Its actually very unprofessional and dumb.

He did that, of course, because he thought he could talk
down to the rapper. He wouldn't do that to someone white.

He was wrong.

  

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150. "Keep those knee pads on. You stay defending artist."
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Kweli made a fuckin fool outta himself. I expect something like that outta Mariah Carey some diva shit. Look who comes to save the day ur bitch ass.

  

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154. "Don is much more than just "the guy on fries" for CNN. He's the face"
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of CNN along with Anderson cooper.

It makes sense that Don would defend the coverage that he's helped to shape. Also, Talib made a broad generalization, so it's understandable that his assertion would be challenged by a member of said media.

(Plus I really take issue with folx taking black folx to task for being proud of/ taking ownership of their corporate careers. Don has every reason to be proud of what he's accomplished at CNN and to feel a sense of responsibility for the network's output)

The problem was that Don was a tad too quick on the draw with being defensive without understanding what Talib's actual gripe was. It came off haughty, but def not idiotic.

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175. "LOL. And Anderson Cooper is a better professional. "
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Like, by a lot.

Part of the issue is white privilege: Because Cooper is white and gay,
he doesn't feel the need to feel to cater to everyone....he can be more
brazen

Don Lemon feels like he has to please everyone. So he picked on a
black rapper to talk town to, doing so in the name of defending his
company. It looked toolish and unprofessional.

>of CNN along with Anderson cooper.
>
>It makes sense that Don would defend the coverage that he's
>helped to shape. Also, Talib made a broad generalization, so
>it's understandable that his assertion would be challenged by
>a member of said media.
>
>(Plus I really take issue with folx taking black folx to task
>for being proud of/ taking ownership of their corporate
>careers. Don has every reason to be proud of what he's
>accomplished at CNN and to feel a sense of responsibility for
>the network's output)

LMFAO!!! The fuck this got to do with anything? He's a JOURNALIST.
He should defend his JOURNALISM. He was defending something
he had ZERO input on. That is not integrity. That's being a fucking
baffoon. The SMART thing to do would have been to deflect, or
just say "I can't speak on that" and then do your fucking JOB.

The REASON he did that is because he was talking to a black rapper.

He's not doing that to Sean fucking Penn, or Susan Sarandon or
someone white.

>The problem was that Don was a tad too quick on the draw with
>being defensive without understanding what Talib's actual
>gripe was. It came off haughty, but def not idiotic.

No, it came off unprofessional and idiotic.


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179. "OHHHHHH you don't know what you're talking about. Gotcha."
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156. "he's cut off PLENTY of white people who've made generalizations "
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he defending CNN's coverage the same way i've listened to talib defend hip-hop against generalizations.

and i consider you rational, but it's don lemon and you think you can just suggest that.

you're wrong, dogg. it's not okay to do that.

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157. "yep. Don is an equal opportunity cutter-off-er lol"
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173. "So he's generally unprofessional and bitchmade? "
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Fuck is your point?

I don't care about any of this 'rational black people' agenda shit

I saw the clip. There was one person who was flat out WRONG

And it was Lemon. I don't know what happened last week, or if
he punched Rush Limbaugh in the jaw

I'm talking about THIS encounter.

In a vaccum, he was wrong.

And sorry -- talking down to a white racist conservative is
not the same as talking down to a progressive at a Ferguson
rally

You get no points for calling out racist idiots

That you put those two actions on the same plane is weird, and
you should know better

He's not cutting off fucking Susan Sarandon the same way, and
she hasn't earned any more political clout than Talib Kweli has,
quite frankly.

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177. "we disagree..."
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Sat Aug-23-14 07:34 AM by Basaglia

  

          

you can't seem to keep my words in front of you. i didn't say he cut off "white racist conservative(s)," I said he's cut off "white people" in response to you saying "he wouldn't do that to someone white." so, i didn't put progressive vs. white racist conservative on the same plane and you need to acknowledge that, because YOU HAVE TO STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. i ain't talking tricky-like, dogg, trying to sneak shit by you either...you be legit misunderstanding me and assigning stuff to me that i did not say. it's fine with some petty sports shit, but nah...not here. and if we'd been talking, i'd have cut you off as you as you said it, because that's just normal human behavior. i'd be worried about protecting my integrity and making sure i'm understood, rather than let you establish a false premise and run with it. that dooms us to leave the convo without UNDERSTANDING on any level.

and i've never seen him interview susan sarandon or sean penn. and if he did and they told him CNN's coverage of a some person, place or thing has been flawed, inconsistent, disingenous or downright blatantly false, and he ain't stop them in their tracks...THEN, you'd have your 1:1 and a point. i don't see that here.

and i don't have an "agenda" here. i just think the don lemon pile-on shit is remarkably counter-productive.

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178. "Really sorry if I put words in your mouth, but again..."
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....I'm talking about THIS encounter. Not no greater issue.

Lemon was wrong.

I don't care about all that other shit about pile-ons and rationality.

He was a dick. I don't know him, but he made the shit awkward, not
Kweli.

And you're right -- I don't have a perfect comparison
to say FOR SURE if he would have done the same thing
to Sarandon or Penn, but I trust my instincts.

That "you can't say that shit for sure" is the argument white people
make all the time when discussing hypotheticals like Trayvon....
....I have NEVER seen Susan Sarandon talked down to by
ANY reporter like that. EVER. EVER. I've seen Sean Penn DEBATED
by people but not outright TALKED DOWN to.

That's what I'm saying.

>you can't seem to keep my words in front of you. i didn't say
>he cut off "white racist conservative(s)," I said he's cut off
>"white people" in response to you saying "he wouldn't do that
>to someone white." so, i didn't put progressive vs. white
>racist conservative on the same plane and you need to
>acknowledge that, because YOU HAVE TO STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY
>MOUTH. i ain't talking tricky-like, dogg, trying to sneak shit
>by you either...you be legit misunderstanding me and assigning
>stuff to me that i did not say. it's fine with some petty
>sports shit, but nah...not here. and if we'd been talking, i'd
>have cut you off as you as you said it, because that's just
>normal human behavior. i'd be worried about protecting my
>integrity and making sure i'm understood, rather than let you
>establish a false premise and run with it. that dooms us to
>leave the convo without UNDERSTANDING on any level.
>
>and i've never seen him interview susan sarandon or sean penn.
>and if he did and they told him CNN's coverage of a some
>person, place or thing has been flawed, inconsistent,
>disingenous or downright blatantly false, and he ain't stop
>them in their tracks...THEN, you'd have your 1:1 and a point.
>i don't see that here.
>
>and i don't have an "agenda" here. i just think the don lemon
>pile-on shit is remarkably counter-productive.
>
>

  

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180. "appreciate that, dogg *respect*"
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>
>....I'm talking about THIS encounter. Not no greater issue.
>
>Lemon was wrong.
>
>I don't care about all that other shit about pile-ons and
>rationality.

understood. now, let me apologize for saying "i consider you rational" because i re-traced this conversation and i can see now that it was condescending and wholly unnecessary.

the fact is we haven't even been discussing the same shit in this thread. i entered this joint annoyed that it was turning into another lemon pile-on and petty cheerleading on BOTH sides, which is why my initial response to you was that i took a positive away from talib and don's exchange. they talked shit through and understood each other. i'm all about the mutual understanding, dogg...because once that's established, the idea of "wrong" becomes deemphasized and problem-solving can come to the fore.

so, to that point, lemme actually address what you're talking about...

>He was a dick. I don't know him, but he made the shit awkward,
>not
>Kweli.

see, i thought it was doomed to be awkward the moment talib said "Media has done a horrible job"...."media" is every outlet there from Al-Jezeera to CBS to Fox to Young Turks to This Week in Blackness and don spoke to that and used CNN to counter the point, because he's the FACE of CNN's ferguson coverage and he's intimately involved in what that organization is disseminating to the world, so of course he's gonna say something to defend the integrity of his work.

i don't think he was being a "dick"...i took it as he was trying to correct what he thought was a false premise...he said "well, hang on..." and talib wasn't having it. and i'm not saying talib was wrong. and the moment talib got huffy and said "let me finish my point" a second time, MAYBE don should have let him finish and then countered. but, who's to say it wouldn't have gotten worse from that point and they'd have spent the rest of the interview arguing the specifics of the cnn.com article?

HOWEVER...

i thought it went nuclear when talib derailed the whole shit when he started talking about behind the scenes shit with "decency to greet me" and "nicole" and all that. in fact, he revealed that he came into the interview salty by actually saying "i would listen to you, if you actually had the decency to greet me"...i thought it was a wrap. but, i was glad they got through all that shit. i felt that talib was genuinely insulted and i felt that don was genuinely perplexed to learn that talib took his head nod and "sup?" as an inadequate acknowledgment of his existence.

>And you're right -- I don't have a perfect comparison
>to say FOR SURE if he would have done the same thing
>to Sarandon or Penn, but I trust my instincts.

OE...i get that. i understand that. but, i don't know that, dogg. there is a time and a place for blackey-sense and i can only say it's appropriate to use it when it's my own. so, if your blackness is telling you that don wouldn't have corrected a well-known white liberal mid-sentence, i defer to your blackness, sir.

>That "you can't say that shit for sure" is the argument white
>people
>make all the time when discussing hypotheticals like
>Trayvon....

see, this is loaded. i'm talking about my knowledge of don lemon as it relates to his RECORD of cutting off people of ALL RACES AND AFFILIATIONS who he feels have said some wrong shit...and you come with this? what am i supposed to say to this?

>....I have NEVER seen Susan Sarandon talked down to by
>ANY reporter like that. EVER. EVER. I've seen Sean Penn
>DEBATED
>by people but not outright TALKED DOWN to.

so, explain to me how don lemon "talked down to" talib? for the last third of that interview, don completely deferred to talib, letting talib cut him off repeatedly and letting talib finish, because he saw talib was frustrated.

you know what i find fucked up? one could easily say talib wouldn't have went in on a white journalist like that. and that a white journalist DAMN WELL wouldn't have put up with that kind of behavior for that long...long enough to TRY to come to an understanding and actually ask if "we're good" at the end of it.

but, that's just how i CHOOSE to look at these things. i'm completely over committing to a "side" and letting my emotions dictate my reasoning.

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190. "Ba...you got niggas in here talking "Kweli set the cause back.""
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Those niggas are just as great in number and as annoying
as people who pile on Lemon unnecessarily

You have beef with internet revolutionaries who pile
on any black dude who don't quote the Autobiography

I'm with that...I really am

I got beef with niggas who think they are eclectic
and different because they can defend the establishment
and shit on blacks in a way that make them look "different"
to white folks

I think the latter are a bigger problem than the former,
and this post if full of them

So if we're gonna talk about how this reflects on "greater
issues" (I'm not...I think Lemon was wrong because he was
wrong), then I think this entire exchange is more emblematic
of my beef than yours: Dumb niggas going in on Kweli and
defending Lemon because shitting on Kweli make them feel
like they are "different."

Shit is wack

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192. "well, you know i'm against that as well"
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>I got beef with niggas who think they are eclectic
>and different because they can defend the establishment
>and shit on blacks in a way that make them look "different"
>to white folks

i hate that, too, and you've seen me go in on niggas about that. take for instance that awkward comedy special/tour/DVD/whatever the fuck a few years back...i fried them niggas...i don't like niggas nowaways embracing these silly little code words like "awkward" and "nerd" and "other" and "new black"...all that shit. but, my disdain doesn't stop there...i HATE when ANY way of being black is deemed LESS THAN or inauthentic or "safe"...dogg, i have begun reevaluate ALL this shit...the entire LANGUAGE of the black experience is so fuckin counterproductive that it legit makes me sad. there is seemingly no place for the individual in black america. unity is what's needed, uniformity must be rejected.


>I think the latter are a bigger problem than the former,
>and this post if full of them

i can clap to that.


>So if we're gonna talk about how this reflects on "greater
>issues" (I'm not...I think Lemon was wrong because he was
>wrong), then I think this entire exchange is more emblematic
>of my beef than yours: Dumb niggas going in on Kweli and
>defending Lemon because shitting on Kweli make them feel
>like they are "different."
>
>Shit is wack

understood. i ain't shit on talib (and i know you know that, i'm just making a point) because i understood that he was frustrated as fuck and it's super stressful having big ass gun pointed at you all day. and i've never seen or heard talib get that angry in an interview, so i knew it was real in those streets. plus, i wasn't interested in blaming don or talib, because i empathized with both men.

and again, for them to end that interview like that, with emotions that raw, i thought it was great, man. and it's sad that it's been overlooked so much.

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196. "Fair. And I always welcome difference of opinion. n/m"
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>
>>I got beef with niggas who think they are eclectic
>>and different because they can defend the establishment
>>and shit on blacks in a way that make them look "different"
>>to white folks
>
>i hate that, too, and you've seen me go in on niggas about
>that. take for instance that awkward comedy
>special/tour/DVD/whatever the fuck a few years back...i fried
>them niggas...i don't like niggas nowaways embracing these
>silly little code words like "awkward" and "nerd" and "other"
>and "new black"...all that shit. but, my disdain doesn't stop
>there...i HATE when ANY way of being black is deemed LESS THAN
>or inauthentic or "safe"...dogg, i have begun reevaluate ALL
>this shit...the entire LANGUAGE of the black experience is so
>fuckin counterproductive that it legit makes me sad. there is
>seemingly no place for the individual in black america. unity
>is what's needed, uniformity must be rejected.
>
>
>>I think the latter are a bigger problem than the former,
>>and this post if full of them
>
>i can clap to that.
>
>
>>So if we're gonna talk about how this reflects on "greater
>>issues" (I'm not...I think Lemon was wrong because he was
>>wrong), then I think this entire exchange is more emblematic
>>of my beef than yours: Dumb niggas going in on Kweli and
>>defending Lemon because shitting on Kweli make them feel
>>like they are "different."
>>
>>Shit is wack
>
>understood. i ain't shit on talib (and i know you know that,
>i'm just making a point) because i understood that he was
>frustrated as fuck and it's super stressful having big ass gun
>pointed at you all day. and i've never seen or heard talib get
>that angry in an interview, so i knew it was real in those
>streets. plus, i wasn't interested in blaming don or talib,
>because i empathized with both men.
>
>and again, for them to end that interview like that, with
>emotions that raw, i thought it was great, man. and it's sad
>that it's been overlooked so much.


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151. "that's not what i took from this..."
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i wasn't interested in who looked worse. i was encouraged and proud that they got through talking at, around, past and thru each other and reached an understanding. it's tense down there and they're both frustrated and under tremendous stress.

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136. "Shit... Don Lemon is 48 years old?"
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Him and Pharrell must have the same doctor, yo. I thought dude was like 30.

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148. "I like how said he was leaving and turned slowly "
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And walked slowly while looking back for Lemon to tell him to come back. When he didn't, he had to come back himself and look like a fool. If you threaten to storm off, you have to storm off if they don't beg you to stay.

Classic kid temper tantrum stuff.

  

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149. "hohoho...yah for sure."
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'If you're not gonna let me talk than I'll just take a couple steps away and hold up my chest while turning my ear to see if you change your mind....I will WALK away from this interview but then stand a couple feet away with my head half-turned away while you reconsider how you talk to me'.

  

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155. "Is this behind the scenes footage? Or was this shit really on TV? lol"
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3 mins of grown men arguing about who said hello to who and how to conduct an interview. smh

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158. "it was live. I was like is anyone but me seeing this shit. Lol"
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160. "BTW, Talib Kweli is not backing down one day later (link)"
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No swipe because it has Twitter shots

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/the-media-lies-don-lemon-vs-talib-kweli-ferguson-beef-continues/

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161. "That's a legit gray area"
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don didn't invite him, but he re-invited him, after the producer wanted to boot him.

seems as if the equity that don's built in massa's house was used to get talib on the air in the first place. and he still fought for him during the interview when they were about to pull the plug.

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162. "does Kweli not understand that just because Don did not personally "
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extend the invite, it doesn't mean that the invitation wasn't associated with Don? That's just so petty and small-minded.

And for the past week, Don, Anderson and Tapper have been doing EXACTLY what Talib is complaining that they haven't done. So much so that capt Ron Johnson called the media to task for making the police and national guard the bad guys.

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163. "nah, "nicole" invited him"
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166. "Lol"
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172. "Talib Kweli needs to just go sit down"
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164. "That "Can I finish" talking heads ish is the worst. "
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169. "yep... but networks love that shit."
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My question tho is why won't they let each other finish a sentence or answer a question.

How do you ask a question and then interrupt the person when they try to answer?

  

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200. "Can I finish?"
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165. "kinda hard to respect a black man that sound like kim possible."
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182. "The problem is 'Lib wasn't trying to preach beyond the choir"
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He was seizing the moment on national cable television to make sure all of the folk that already agree with him would cheer him on.

It's a lack of tactics. You don't go on CNN and start the conversation off with white supremacy and the evils of the media. That's the type of shit you save for TruthOut or some shit. You go into CNN with a plan that's going to actually give some insight into your perspective for *their audience*. Coming off like an angry black man does nothing for the cause in that situation.

He would have been far more poignant actually talking about what had happened to him the night before and garnering the sympathies of vierwers than worrying about the media white supremacy etc. Rather than saying what they hadn't reported on use the opportunity to actually report it. Because if you start with critiquing the medium you're using you've got to know that medium is going to defend itself. If instead you present the alternative you've actually coopted the medium which is far more effective.

But for that circle of activists the pats on the back for sticking it to the man's coon live on the air... i guess that's that good shit, even though it sets the cause back.

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183. "EXCELLENT point "
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184. "CNN had a ton of ppl on that night and the next day who already "
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>He would have been far more poignant actually talking about
>what had happened to him the night before and garnering the
>sympathies of vierwers than worrying about the media white
>supremacy etc. Rather than saying what they hadn't reported on
>use the opportunity to actually report it.

did this. each w/ varying degrees of "credibility."

if his main goal in this particular interview was to attack the media coverage, then it was almost mission accomplished. but he then derailed that w. all that "Nicole sh*t, lol.

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185. "if his goal was to attack the media coverage it was a dumb goal"
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that lacks strategy and long term vision.

the media coverage while an issue is not the most important one at this time to be addressing directly. that's an aftermath issue which if justice is served actually becomes more obvious and easier to attack.

the goal has to be focused. and this is where solid leadership comes in. there are so many diverging agendas at work right now it makes it easy for the media to play into the confusion and make it look like nobody has it together *except* for the media.

the goal should be to keep the right message on the tip of folks tongues. so if there were already folk driving that point home, good he should have been another. it shows consistency and drives home the point that what is being said needs to be addressed.

again while there are factors in the media that are driven with bias, those can be coopted with proper planning. this is what pr is all about. any pr person will tell you that any appearance is an opportunity to get the media and the public on your side. if the public gets behind you best believe the media will follow suit. so while the media may actively try to derride you so as to continue their current messaging, it is your job to prepare to counter that so that they have to change their messaging to go along with the tide.

fighting the media is the dumbest fight you can possibly start because ultimately all they have to do is stop giving you a platform, and then they can still talk shit about you.

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186. "Pushes chair out, stands up, and starts that classic Slow Clap."
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Orbit_Established
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187. ""Lack of tactics." "Setting the cause back." Its like a cliche party. "
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You're thousands of times lamer and more cliche than
Kweli is.

Good grief, you guys are a dweebs.

  

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188. "Shut yo bitch ass up"
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You ain't got idea the nary about shit. You are what we classically call the peanut gallery. Something to say about everything but ain't planning to do shit. And before you get on that 'but what have you done but post on okp' shit, remember you don't know who the fuck I am or what I'm doing.

What you'll note though is that I neither defended Lemon or CNN, never said that anything Talib said was necessarily wrong, but again it shows a lack of preparation and strategy to actually utilize the opportunity he was given to actually do something that would help the situation.

You may get off living vicariously through his actions but that don't do shit for the cause. It's short sighted and immature. Anyone with a cursory understanding of the history of the struggle would recognize that.

But go ahead and keep worrying about what's clich. And incidentally there's another clich which says clich's become clich's because of the underlying truth in them.

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189. "Lulz. You said "set the cause back." You lost, bro. Give it up."
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Talib Kweli, at his worst, didn't "set any cause back."

Like, at all. Not even close. Like, not nearly.

You're a simpleton who uses simple ass cliches, and
everyone cosigning you is made of the same.

LOL @ "lack of tactics"

That one might be even worse



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191. "Nah fam u ranked #1 in okp's Bitchmade poll."
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Go listen to French Montana and stfu

  

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195. ""Bitchmade poll" is another cliche that is "setting the cause back." "
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>Go listen to French Montana and stfu

Go eat some French Fries, you chubby wimp

Bwahahahaha

A bunch of dweebs

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193. "ol hugh madson ass "but he made get by he can't make mistakes""
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He let his emotions get in the way of the cause he was trying to represent. It's that simple dun. Evidence - he spent all that time arguing about the pronunciation of his name.

You scoff at tactics, but tactics and preparation make movements impactful. It fucking works. You get people together and say these are the talking points. You prepare for the derailments, and you know how to steer the conversation back to your message without having to keep screaming "can you stop interrupting me." You don't end up in situations where you're walking away from the camera unless you know you've made your point and there's nothing left to say.

That doesn't mean you shuffle and jive, or even that you have to watch what you say. It says you are tactful. If you're walking into their territory you prepare yourself to play their game. Or you do a "George Bush doesn't care about black people" with fucking confidence. You don't get into tit for tats over names and who's talking over who. As soon as you raise your voice, you lost the game of perceptions.

If you don't understand that I suggest you pick up a robe, a staff and a torah and hit the streets with the Black Isrealites cause you're bound to be just that effective.

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194. "Lulz. You're setting the fat, smelly kid "cause back" with your cliches"
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And your posts "lack tactic" kinda like you "lack deodorant"

You stinky little dweeb, you


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201. "Lemon was belittling him from the jump"
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so I get why Talib was annoyed

Plus Lemon should have just let him talk!..I mean, he was there for an interview

the "you didn't say hi to me!" BS should have been talked about off air, lol. sounded petty and childish.

  

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203. " Zero chance he talks to Sean Penn or Susan Sarandon this way"
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>so I get why Talib was annoyed
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>Plus Lemon should have just let him talk!..I mean, he was
>there for an interview
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>the "you didn't say hi to me!" BS should have been talked
>about off air, lol. sounded petty and childish.

He did that because he was talking to a black rapper, and felt
that was ok.


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204. "What? Lemon was belittling him from the jump?"
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He's a reported asking questions and making clarifications for the viewing audience. ALL reporter doing interviews do that. Don was not there to hear a someones inaccurate Soap Box Diatribe and homemade narrative. Talib came in with a sensitive attitude and failed to remain professional and got Schooled on the air LIVE.

That Clown was embarrassing to HipHop, Rap, Black Men and himsef.



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206. "Yall still holding a Grudge against Kweli"
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This post shows everything that is wrong with this board. Yall petty as fug. Talib was on point and when is it not a good time to talk about white supremacy

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207. "I agree about Kweli's general topic, but time/place/execution was wrong"
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The understanding of about white supremacy was overstood long before he started talking. We ain't need him to address that mess they way he did. He came off as Hot Headed, Ignorant of the over all tone regarding the conversation, angry at the wrong system, aggressive and overly sensitive about small things.

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