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Ryan has a great mind for business. His idea of the auction album was great. I wish someone would do that (Wutang is still in the air).

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I hope he changes the game big time w/ this.

"A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on the installment plan" (c) Martin Luther King Jr.

musically at least
but he is damn smart

but it also sounds a little bit like a pyramid scheme.

EDIT: The Hot 97 clowns are the worst interviewers too. They are constantly interrupting and talking over the interviewee to interject some inanity

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the same way a lot of OKPS talk about issues that they didn't grow up around
If you don't have any personal experience to the topic at hand, then stfu please

On a journey for enlightenment.

>the same way a lot of OKPS talk about issues that they didn't
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>If you don't have any personal experience to the topic at
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tons of kids have the skill but lack the discipline

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a system(rather than just being a walk on). That system is usually collegiate.

The Music industry cares about the music last their bottom line is selling products last of which is actual albums so it is about advertising or marketability (safe for popular white american perception)

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I think a lot of the concepts about data and direct to fan are crucial at any level of the business..

However I have not seen any model like this... ever work over and over.

If you are a small local artist. You would need to have an incredibly die hard and rabid fanbase for this to work over and over again.

Because the idea is simply you keep going BACk to these people for more money. I think there is fatigue in that as well especially if they dont see you scale

What could happen and what does happen (in the instance of kickstarter) is you get a bunch of people to invest the first time and then the idea never grows out of that core set of people.

BUT

this in tandem with a comprehensive marketing strategy could make for something interesting.

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>If you are a small local artist. You would need to have an
>incredibly die hard and rabid fanbase for this to work over
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>for more money. I think there is fatigue in that as well
>especially if they dont see you scale

When he said that you need to convince your Twitter followers to give you $50 even though they're not going to be able to attend the show, I was like "Aroo? Where they do that at?"

I mean, I can imagine a small percentage of fans might be willing to invest in you that way, but the average modern music listener is way too... (for lack of a better word) selfish to do that. Especially to do it again and again.


(I was specifically waiting for you to weigh in, btw)

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ha...

I don't have a problem with him selling a service honestly. He DOES have insight into making things work for him and a real team and network. At any level an indie artist who is just figuring stuff out on their own could benefit from some basic team.

I mean I am heavily invested in figuring out many of the same problems Ryan is. There are literally hundreds of metrics you can track now but I don't think anyone has truly figured out a solid correlation between them.

A twitter follower is an extremely casual connection. Now that twitter is changing its algorithm that entire relationship will change as well.

He also doesn't tackle the most important idea of Fan fatigue when an artist doesn't "Blow Up". I know about this first hand. A fan is invested partially because they "believe" in you. But if the next phase never happens I think they eventually move on.

Trying to connect with him over the next week or so.

His service could be "extremely" useful though to a slightly above small level artist and a mid level artist. People who have a large enough casual fanbase that the hardcore fanbase is a solid number.

Similar to what Krit is doing in the other post. He knows that there are people that would love a physical version of his mixtapes so he can sell to them while the label can support the casual engagement on a larger level.

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>He also doesn't tackle the most important idea of Fan fatigue
>when an artist doesn't "Blow Up". I know about this first
>hand. A fan is invested partially because they "believe" in
>you. But if the next phase never happens I think they
>eventually move on.

What makes it more difficult is how most fans/consumers have a misunderstanding on how blowing up actually works. So when they're bombarded with stories and examples of folks doing it overnight, it's hard for them to view you as having any type of "success".

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They shouldnt though.. they should be able to enjoy it w/o knowledge of "the process"

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>He also doesn't tackle the most important idea of Fan fatigue
>when an artist doesn't "Blow Up". I know about this first
>hand. A fan is invested partially because they "believe" in
>you. But if the next phase never happens I think they
>eventually move on.

I know this is primarily a Hip-Hop site and I guess it might be true of R&B as well but it's sure as fuck not the mindset of fans in a shitload of genres operating on a more underground basis where the idea of "the next phase" hasn't existed for years. If anything, the fans want the artists for themselves and would view the artist reaching "the next phase" as a sign of weakness, like it almost by default signifies a watering down process of the art (and indeed, historically, that's almost always been the case)

Baasically, in this very context, you might be right but it's not by any means some general mindset of fans of lesser known artists...

What artists do you know are making a real living in any genre on -100 person rooms..

I mean someone like Zoe Keating (classical) who does well doesn't even tour because of it.

But I will say that yes we are talking about commercial genres..

I mean even an group like ICP has "blown up" in terms of what they can do..

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I feel like he is collecting phone numbers and email addresses with the call him bit.

Same with the website which collects your info but then doesn't seem to be working.


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It might be a little shady, but it's definitely legal.

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They all have our info. RL just told us upfront what he's capturing the data for AND I bet he can sell that data to whomever wants it - AkA other media companies.


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that explain how they are going to use your data and you have terms and conditions that you must accept if they are going to use your data.



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But I doubt that this brother is not dumb enough to violate the law..



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without being clear in the reward that laptop had to have the data he was looking for on it.

He is smart about what he focuses on and do a lot of things on his own that other people pay people to do, but not smart enough to know that sometimes you have to ask experts (like lawyers) for help.

You'd be surprised how dumb smart people can be.


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Maybe you should investigate the legal issues of it all and then let us know or tell him how to avoid breaking the law.

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you say the reward was separate but I say it's all an example of some times you got to consult a lawyer before doing certain things.


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Plus if you offer a $400 reward for your dog and someone bring it back to you dead - run over by a car with its guts hanging out are you going to still pay the $440?


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Also I'd put alot more scrutiny to a 1M reward before putting it out there than a 400 reward.

It's okay to concede that dude is capable of making decisions that weren't well thought out in light of the 1M reward incident.

I do legal review of websites for a living, I can tell you that the website seems to violate privacy laws because it collects personal data without permission.

You are going to disagree with that legal assessment because, well, he seems to smart to do that?



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>They all have our info. RL just told us upfront what he's
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There is a reason why grocery stores, starbucks and autozone want your information... they track what you buy and how much you spend...

its not just to give you a better price...

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

The data is important though.

If he is planning his own tours especially knowing that he has exactly 200 fans in Seattle that have purchased an album makes it easier to book a venue.

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This Vid will get him all the FREE advertising he needs for the 4th Quarter of the year.


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For the people interested some links/companies that can help along the way

www.Nextbigsound.com - track metrics

www.topspinmedia.com/ - capture fans, organize d2f sales

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finally watched the whole thing
not all of his ideas will work for all artists but
but as an artist already focused on alternative methods of 'making it'
it's always good to hear more ideas.

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if (not doubting) he wrote and produced her first LP, what money does she make from the album? album sales? performing?

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i almost added a please do not mention Diddy in your reply to my post

lol

i think she got pregnant by Diddy recently too, I may be wrong though

In technical terms she would've received money when she signed her deal.. any modeling, endorsements, shows and she would receive performance royalties which are different than songwriting ones.

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Most singers don't write and produce their albums.

I mean, considering she didn't write or produce AND she's working for Diddy AND it was her first album, it's likely she didn't get more than a few cents, but she got a little something to live on for a year maybe..lol.

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Besides, "fundraising" for projects had already been streamlined by indiegogo and kickstarter.

As another poster already mentioned you cant keep going back to the well indefinitely unless you can grow your fan base at least twice as fast as you "tax" them.

However aspects of his models will and has worked well for "washed-up" artists who were huge at one point. Public Enemy is one of the first groups I know to build their operation on their fan base. The internet was still young back then so they can be considered visionaries in that sense.

Smart dude. He's hustling alot and "hustling" a little too with his services

....it'll work great from some...probably the ones who jumped on board early...

And not because one guy went to school and the other guys are "of the streets."

Black: (facts facts, straight talk)
Nigger: (I want to know what you're talking about, and I admit it could help me, but if you speak literally, and I do not comprehend, I have to take a shot at you to make me feel better about myself.)

"OK, then who's a nigger?"
Anyone that calls themselves a nigger.
These days, being a nigger is an elective.

Until niggers aren't scared of knowledge and feel like they're exposing a weakness by acknowledging they don't know something, I don't see the rise of a strong Black nation, because it takes all of us to get there.

For example, Don Lemon saying "don't litter in your own neighborhood" isn't stupid.
Calling him stupid for saying it, and arguing that you can do whatever you want, is. It's not simply about the chip bag on the ground - it's more towards establishing respect for where you live, which leads to a greater respect for yourself.

IMO

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

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Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
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I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

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And I have even less clue whether my admission of this makes me black or a nigger.

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lol..

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bruh went full fucn retard yo

something about him rubs me the wrong way.

hes obviously very smart, but he strikes me as greedy, almost to the point of being untrustworthy. he doesnt seem like he'd fuck you over completely, but he does seem like he'd use you for what you can offer and not give a fuck if youre high and dry if he's gaining.

maybe thats because he's alway wearing sunglasses and is always dressed in black. like he's trying to look cool and mysterious. dude gave a lecture in super dark sunglasses! i liked his lecture, but there's going to be a wall btwn you and someone if you cant look at them directly in their eyes. apparently he cares more about his promoting his vintage frame company than connecting with his audience. which works for him apparently.

i'd prefer to do business with someone i can sense wants us both to win.

..umm


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though it might sound sort of facile because she's focusing on his appearance in this particular clip... but if you've been following RL's career from the beginning, it really does tie in to the overall all contrivance of his image... there's something about him that seems deeply disingenuous.

And frankly, there is nothing unusual about desiring to see the eyes of the person you're doing business with. It's the reason a lot of serious business people will not sign off on a deal until they can meet the principals in person, look them in the eye and shake their hand.

Gut feelings count for a lot... and R-Les does not really inspire that kind of confidence because everything about him is so fake (and self-consciously so).

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..if it really came down to appearances, most of the history of hip hop as we know it might not exist.

granted, i understand how someone might be apprehensive about an individual based on their appearance, but that doesn't change the fact that he knows the business and is simply presenting a viable option to people in need. on top of that, he's not pushing something new just a different approach to what's been available all along. most people don't have the insight or ability to execute, and he's made his brand available to facilitate that.

make no mistake about it: he's an artist.

as such, he's developed a specific character/personality that he maintains in public view. at the same time, he's an artist who also manages his own business (and others). he's promoting both his brand as an artist and his business model/venture as a partnership with other artist. i think its a little silly to make assumptions about his character based on sunglasses and dark clothing.

ryan presented the facts & figures that address several major concerns for independent artist attempting to increase their potential for success. he's shown examples of this through his own endeavors and other artist he's partnered with. he doesn't claim to have every answer, but he certainly has solid direction for quite a few independent artist looking for resolutions to current issues.

regardless of how someone might feel about his personality/appearance, the facts & figures speak for themselves.


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..and miles to go before i sleep...

its not about his appearance, but moreso about his "energy." his appearance is simply the physical manifestation of his energy that feels "off" to me.

a business relationship with someone involves trust. just because someone looks good and successful on paper does not mean you can trust them. to me, dude just seems like he's only about his own bottom line.

i acknowledge that i could be wrong, but thats just the vibe i get from him. if i were presented with the opportunity to do business with him, i'd be reluctant until i had evidence that refuted my initial suspicions.

of course he's good at what he does, but i'd rather learn from watching and emulating than being a part of it. i also dont think what hes saying is really that groundbreaking. he's A PART of the trend of successful independent artists, not the originator.

..or the radio/podcast interview?

even though the idea labs video is a brief presentation of his platform, it outlines the basic principles of his approach.

he used facts & figures, not assumptions or approximations.

*you mention skepticism based on his obvious focus toward his OWN bottom line?

that's real business. what successful investor would approach it any other way?

he's merely taking what he's already proven to work for himself, and making it available/affordable for other people (based on their current market value).

he's presenting an opportunity for those that are willing to learn AND put in the work necessary to achieve and maintain success. i can understand how someone might choose to go another route, but i can't really see how anyone can call his approach flawed.

he's not claiming to have all the answers, just addressing the pertinent principles of sales/service in the business of music.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...