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"My niggas, if this was your son, would you be in the audience?"


  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liiR6xUKXS0

I winced for the father.



  

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yup.
Nov 03rd 2014
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lol yeah the little diva kid
Nov 03rd 2014
2
of course i'd support my son.it's not on him to be what i want him to be...
Nov 03rd 2014
3
That shit was embarrassing, b!
Nov 03rd 2014
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serious query here.
Nov 03rd 2014
5
was thinking the same thing
Nov 03rd 2014
It's like that line from MissSaigon
Nov 04th 2014
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RE: serious query here.
Nov 03rd 2014
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not sure we are ready for that here
Nov 03rd 2014
51
that level of flamboyancy for anyone would embarrass me though
Nov 03rd 2014
6
Why? nm
Nov 03rd 2014
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it's the equiv. of a non Black doing their best impersonation of a Black
Nov 03rd 2014
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i'm laid back and people like that make me uncomfy
Nov 03rd 2014
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      Right. It appears very forced and unnatural.
Nov 03rd 2014
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           i am sure there is more than a little theatre involved in his mannerisms...
Nov 03rd 2014
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                If it ain't a big deal, why can't people be put off without being called...
Nov 03rd 2014
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                . . .
Nov 03rd 2014
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                     Everything aint that extreme b.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                          of course, we both know that is deeper than long hair or tattoos.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                I never said it was "deep".
Nov 03rd 2014
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^^^^basically
Nov 03rd 2014
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I came in to say something similar.
Nov 03rd 2014
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sure, but i'd still be there.
Nov 03rd 2014
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yup
Nov 03rd 2014
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Read some of the YouTube comments
Nov 03rd 2014
10
seems similar and yeah i dont mind but dude was floating up there
Nov 03rd 2014
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I'd support my son... Call him crazy... But still support him...
Nov 03rd 2014
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and pass up a free trip to LA?
Nov 03rd 2014
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if i had a problem, i'd stfu about it.
Nov 03rd 2014
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smh, cmon bruh
Nov 03rd 2014
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That's that special kinda ignorance.
Nov 03rd 2014
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i am sure that kid can ramp up or tone down his mannerisms.
Nov 03rd 2014
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Public places? He's on a talk show.
Nov 03rd 2014
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^^Exactly^^
Nov 04th 2014
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That ain't effeminate bruh. It's a cartoon.
Nov 03rd 2014
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basically you're asking would we fully embrace him?
Nov 03rd 2014
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http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/dontgothere.gif
Nov 03rd 2014
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Fuck the effeminate thing. I don't want my kids to be vapid.
Nov 03rd 2014
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nope. and i wonder if there's been a father anywhere. ever.
Nov 03rd 2014
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isnt the point of parenthood to support your kids to be the best?
Nov 03rd 2014
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no. i think the point of parenthood is to instill morals, ethics and a f...
Nov 03rd 2014
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That's not the point of parenthood at all...
Nov 04th 2014
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Wouldn't be my son. Being gay and being an idiot is 2 different things.
Nov 03rd 2014
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let the gays & pc police tell it..
Nov 03rd 2014
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you do have issues
Nov 03rd 2014
It's weird that lil dude is famous for being flamboyant. He's like Terio...
Nov 03rd 2014
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its like the gay version of cooning.
Nov 03rd 2014
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no
Nov 03rd 2014
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^^Bingo^^
Nov 04th 2014
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id like to say yes. but to be real
Nov 03rd 2014
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which really sums up my entire point.
Nov 03rd 2014
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      be out...but be dope while you doing it.
Nov 03rd 2014
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           i mean, it's daytime talkshow banter.
Nov 03rd 2014
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           RE: be out...but be dope while you doing it.
Nov 03rd 2014
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1it45QagN8
Nov 03rd 2014
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That avy.....goddamn
Nov 03rd 2014
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I'm a fairly progressive gentlemen. And I'd like to think that I will su...
Nov 03rd 2014
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Dude, in what world are you progressive regarding the gay?
Nov 03rd 2014
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      he tells the truth in love... respects their personhood...
Nov 03rd 2014
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      Right, so not at all. lol.
Nov 03rd 2014
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      Sir, You need to check The Word. I WILL continue to speak the Truth.
Nov 03rd 2014
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           This, good sir, is masterful.
Nov 03rd 2014
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      Dang Joe. High Five Sir! You Got it.
Nov 03rd 2014
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           Dude, words mean things.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                You seem to think that Progressiveness mean support of -
Nov 03rd 2014
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                     Dude, you say that you adhere to the Bible, no? Without deviation, no?
Nov 03rd 2014
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                          Man, I'm not about to have the same Theological conversation over again
Nov 03rd 2014
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                               Reading is fundamental, I specifically said progressive regarding sexual...
Nov 03rd 2014
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                                    Right. SMH.. You started off assuming.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                                         And you started with a disingenuous ass premise.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                                              Who are you to tell me what's disingenuous?
Nov 03rd 2014
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                                                   Who is talking about issues (plural)? We're talking about one issue...
Nov 03rd 2014
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                                                        You need to take you emotions off your sleeve killa.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                             Negro, you just wrote a poem and you calling me emotional?
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                  That's an inspired Keystyle Rap from my days on the Freestyle Board
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                       Dude, you got so emotional you couldn't express yourself in prose...
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                            LOL.. Now you're trying to tell me how to express my conversation. WOW
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                 Dude, you're writing rhymes over hurt feelings like a teenager.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      ^^^ This dud is so so hurt... LOL ^^^
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                                                                                      God is watching you, Case. God is watching you.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      He's watching everyone.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      He's waiting on you to get right and to stop invoking him in vain.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      On 2nd thougt
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      This ain't about me or my knowledge and I don't have anything to prove.....
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      Man you really don't have a clue do you? (Rhetorical)
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      Oh, I have more than a clue, I see you for what you are.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      In a nutshell that's what the Devil tried to tell Eve.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      I'm thinking more Matthew 7:15-20...
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      Get up on that Mark 4:12
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      and you get up on that 2 Corinthians 11:14-15...
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                                                      You need to Read Jude 1 and embrace it.
Nov 04th 2014
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      that's not where it stops, 'member this fool
Nov 03rd 2014
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ain't this like gay cooning?
Nov 03rd 2014
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maybe.
Nov 03rd 2014
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      or we could just be real with ourselves and not over complicate shyt
Nov 03rd 2014
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           neither is rihanna.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                so basically arguing to be arguing
Nov 03rd 2014
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                     as i said, we COULD argue about it for days.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                          yea me being logical pretty much excludes me from this dumb argument.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                               yeah, me too.
Nov 03rd 2014
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i would be embarassed if i had a daughter who acted that way
Nov 03rd 2014
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^^^This. Boy or girl, they grounded.
Nov 03rd 2014
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      yeah, that'll change things.
Nov 03rd 2014
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           Probably not, but i'd really hate my kid to be some caricature
Nov 03rd 2014
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That better be just for the cameras
Nov 03rd 2014
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some folks are
Nov 03rd 2014
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I'd feel like a failure and question where I went wrong.
Nov 03rd 2014
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Hell no...and he just gonna have to be mad
Nov 03rd 2014
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yup. if my son was on death row I'd be there too.
Nov 03rd 2014
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FOH like that's even remotely the same, if you're son is going on...
Nov 03rd 2014
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      what he did to get on death row could be his choice.
Nov 04th 2014
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hurts the male/patriarchal ego because it subverts
Nov 03rd 2014
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That isn't a bad thing.
Nov 03rd 2014
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      having assumptions challenged is uncomfortable
Nov 03rd 2014
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           That's fine. But it's often stated as having opinions/stances based on....
Nov 03rd 2014
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                we should teach girls to fight and defend themselves
Nov 03rd 2014
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                You're somewhere else right now.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                     k
Nov 03rd 2014
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                     i'll tackle this one.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                          First and foremost, my example wasn't purely about life or death.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                               parents can raise kids however they see fit.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                                    that's fine, they do.
Nov 03rd 2014
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                Yep
Nov 04th 2014
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                     exactly.
Nov 04th 2014
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he's doing what it takes to get on TV
Nov 03rd 2014
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with a rainbow shirt on! This kid is hilarious
Nov 03rd 2014
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This kid has created a huge character... he needs to be on Broadway.
Nov 03rd 2014
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even the drag queen on the show said he was too much, lol. His mom...
Nov 03rd 2014
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^^ Sees it ^^
Nov 03rd 2014
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wrong. pops was there, next to the sister.
Nov 03rd 2014
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      you're right, my bad, he was trying to hide and didn't have to much to.....
Nov 03rd 2014
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well, that was definitely annoying.
Nov 03rd 2014
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i got through 2 minutes
Nov 03rd 2014
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      u got through 2 minutes more than me
Nov 03rd 2014
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           i think it's more about character though
Nov 03rd 2014
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                dead ass. the children have brought us all types of glorious slang and
Nov 03rd 2014
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                     RE: dead ass. the kids? have brought us all types of glorious slang and
Nov 04th 2014
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                     It's so weird to hear a str8 person refer to gays as "the children." lol
Nov 04th 2014
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                          anyone with a television and cable could pick that one up lol
Nov 04th 2014
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                               I wonder on what TV shows they are they mentioning "the children."
Nov 04th 2014
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                                    LOL
Nov 04th 2014
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i guess by the time my son is on t.v. i'd already be used to it
Nov 03rd 2014
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yeah but i'd be embarassed that i raised an attention whore.
Nov 03rd 2014
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I mean, be honest...he IS slaying.
Nov 03rd 2014
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even the drag queen said he was doing too much, lol
Nov 04th 2014
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awe hes cute
Nov 03rd 2014
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If curb your enthusiasm comes back, he should be a friend of the seducti...
Nov 03rd 2014
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none of yall would allow this..let me repeat
Nov 03rd 2014
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I'm buying that kid a one way ticket to military school
Nov 04th 2014
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If the father wasn't okay with this...
Nov 04th 2014
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yup..that little fool getting paid
Nov 04th 2014
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Star Baby Jones is not Starks dunked on Bulls-- that realization went a
Nov 04th 2014
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I would be in the audience
Nov 04th 2014
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the hat removal and toss makes this perfect.
Nov 04th 2014
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I'd be grilling my family wondering if anyone touch him
Nov 04th 2014
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hell no
Nov 04th 2014
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Kid needs to learn that swag is better than flamboyance
Nov 04th 2014
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nice try but none of that other behavior you mentioned would be...
Nov 04th 2014
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I get that you're okay with adult misogyny rather than child misogyny
Nov 04th 2014
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      loud and wrong like usual, go back to lurking.
Nov 04th 2014
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           So you can use child abuse as a punchline like you did with me?
Nov 04th 2014
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                so what exactly was this imaginary punchline you're ranting about?
Nov 04th 2014
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                     Oh, you thought based on some things I said that I'd been abused
Nov 04th 2014
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                          State exactly what you THINK i said or STFU.
Nov 04th 2014
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                               You mean like the time you said Iraqi gays being raped by police enjoy i...
Nov 04th 2014
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                                    I vaguely remember that post from years ago but I'm pretty sure those...
Nov 04th 2014
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                                         Either you vaguely remember or you're sure
Nov 04th 2014
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                                              ok, so to recap, you're still loud and wrong.
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                   Adjectives won't deflect from your woeful attitude to abuse
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                                                        okayplayer. n/m
Nov 04th 2014
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                                                             Oh, finished with the denials? Enjoy your porn hypocrite.
Nov 05th 2014
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Ted is back!
Nov 04th 2014
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y'all some shitty ass parents
Nov 04th 2014
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and Vingtune!
Nov 04th 2014
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what exactly would you be supporting?
Nov 04th 2014
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a flaming faggot on the daytime talkshow circuit.
Nov 04th 2014
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      So you think it's ok for you to call that kid a "flaming faggot"?
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      He made his sexuality an issue by promoting that Lifestyle.
Nov 04th 2014
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           So, again you think it's ok to call a kid a "flaming faggot".
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      I think its child exploitation which is sad, to me its no different than...
Nov 04th 2014
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           oh.
Nov 04th 2014
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yeah because anything short of murder deserves support.
Nov 04th 2014
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I wouldn't be there and neither would he
Nov 04th 2014
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I would not want my child laughed at and exploited in this way
Nov 04th 2014
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I showed this video to my Bible-thumping mom.
Nov 04th 2014
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^
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infin8
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1. "yup."
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why not?

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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2. "lol yeah the little diva kid"
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i remember that video

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3. "of course i'd support my son.it's not on him to be what i want him to be..."
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he has to be who he is.

  

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4. "That shit was embarrassing, b!"
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>he has to be who he is.

The audience was cringing through the whole thing.

  

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5. "serious query here."
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I didn't watch alladat because I wanted to get this comment in before the post goes poast....
but...
Have "flamboyant" gay males co-opted "traditional" feminine mannerisms to the point that it's no longer even a display of a feminine trate?

  

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"was thinking the same thing"


  

          

Like can you even consider drag queens as even having feminine
traits?
I don't know anyone woman who acts like that kid or the drag queen
but I do know that my exp isn't indicative of everyone else's.

It just seems like their stereotyping a kind of woman that exists in God knows where
in some ultra small batch of statistics but since you have Men acting this way could
it be possible that we are applauding patriarchal views of women
((Vapid, materialistic, scantily clad, hyper arrogant, obnoxious, etc
I've known alot of Men who think these things about women))
just because trans and homosexual Men are acting them out ????

Since the LGBT operates as an ext of Black civil rights struggle could we be
applauding the LGBT equivalent of "Cooning" or "Black Face"

I honestly have absolutely no idea.

  

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173. "It's like that line from MissSaigon"
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Only a man knows how a woman should be

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27. "RE: serious query here."
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>I didn't watch alladat because I wanted to get this comment
>in before the post goes poast....
>but...
>Have "flamboyant" gay males co-opted "traditional" feminine
>mannerisms to the point that it's no longer even a display of
>a feminine trate?

I mentioned that before.. kinda like when some white people "act black" they "over black" and you can't even find people who act like they do....

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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51. "not sure we are ready for that here"
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>I didn't watch alladat because I wanted to get this comment
>in before the post goes poast....
>but...
>Have "flamboyant" gay males co-opted "traditional" feminine
>mannerisms to the point that it's no longer even a display of
>a feminine trate?


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6. "that level of flamboyancy for anyone would embarrass me though"
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i don't care if that was a girl, boy, gay, straight, or alien...i'd be embarrassed



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7. "Why? nm"
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11. "it's the equiv. of a non Black doing their best impersonation of a Black"
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person...
a stereotype of a Black person that is....


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13. "i'm laid back and people like that make me uncomfy"
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Tamar Braxton makes me feel the same way...

i just can't imagine being around them and not feeling exasperated

just seems odd and caricature-ish

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15. "Right. It appears very forced and unnatural."
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>just seems odd and caricature-ish

Straight women who act like that annoy me, too.

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24. "i am sure there is more than a little theatre involved in his mannerisms..."
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so?


i play up different aspects of my personality at different times,
depending on the audience and the message i am trying to convey.

so do you.

It's not that deep, who gives a fuck?


>>just seems odd and caricature-ish
>
>Straight women who act like that annoy me, too.

  

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25. "If it ain't a big deal, why can't people be put off without being called..."
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Do you click with every personality and behavioral type?

Don't you think it's possible that a parent might love their kid but not like them in terms of personality or interests?


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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
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29. ". . . "
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>Do you click with every personality and behavioral type?
>


no, i don't.

>Don't you think it's possible that a parent might love their
>kid but not like them in terms of personality or interests?
>

yes, I do.

and honestly, i would probably have some issues if my son was effeminate.
but like i said, he doesn't need to hear that from me
because as i am sure he already knows, being effeminate is hard enough
and if he's getting shit from me about this issue
then he's probably just gonna find a family somewhere else that is able to deal.

so if i value my relationship with my son,
if i don't want to make his life harder,
i'd need to deal.



my mother probably wishes we were closer than we are.
and we probably would be closer of she wasnt so _____ when it comes to the gay.

what's my natural reaction when she gets _____ ?
i say "fuck you."

would i want my son to have that reaction to me when it came to the gay?
no.

so i would really need to get over myself, and quickly.
because that chasm can be hard to be rebuild, if it can be rebuilt at all.

  

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Lardlad95
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31. "Everything aint that extreme b."
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My dad doesn't like long hair or tattoos. I have long hair and tattoos.
My brother has short hair and is interested in business just like my dad. They both play chess and are type a personalities.

Guess which one of us is closer to our father?

Relationships are complex.

I don't find that kid entertaining. If he were my kid I wouldn't be excited to take him there for that shit. But who's to say that we don't bond over cooking or something unrelated to what he did on TV?

I wouldn't stop him,I'd try to support him however he needed me to, but I also wouldn't fake enthusiasm for something that doesn't interest me.




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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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36. "of course, we both know that is deeper than long hair or tattoos. "
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of course, we know ppl's reactions in this post
is at least in part due to the gay.

and unlike the other stuff you mentioned,
the gay goes far deeper to the root of some of the essential parts of being human.

and unlike being a part of other minority groups,
kids that are or might be gay don't have the same support network.
my kid knows he can talk to me about issues he has being black.

but issues about maybe being gay?
he might not know he can come to me with that stuff.
especially not if he sees me acting _____ when i see him or other dudes
being effeminate.

so yeah, I think it's a little deeper than a parent not liking a kids haircut.
i may struggle with it.

I'd have to work really hard to avoid alienating my kid
over this shit.

and i am sure that ppl will accuse me of being overly liberal just for the sake of being PC.

that's fine.

i remember how my mom reacted when she saw boy george wearing a dress.
it was a good indication of how she felt about the gays, generally.
which made me not be as forthright as i may have been when she asked
how my day was.

subtle shit matters.
if my kid was effeminate i would've trip.

it would be hard but it's kinda my job.


  

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28. "I never said it was "deep". "
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>so?
>
>
>i play up different aspects of my personality at different
>times,
>depending on the audience and the message i am trying to
>convey.
>
>so do you.
>
>It's not that deep, who gives a fuck?
>
>
>>>just seems odd and caricature-ish
>>
>>Straight women who act like that annoy me, too.
>

I really don't even care enough about this topic to continue digging deeper but, everyone has certain personality types that annoy them. He has certain personality traits that happen to annoy me. So, you're right, it isn't that deep. Pretty simple.

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8. "^^^^basically"
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9. "I came in to say something similar."
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While I can't co-sign the homophobic undertone of the post, I do think that whether this kid was gay straight or otherwise, he's just generally annoying. Obnoxiousness doesn't have a sexual orientation.

That said, to answer the question....of course I'd support him and be in the audience but I imagine the kid would drive me up a wall on a daily basis.

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19. "sure, but i'd still be there. "
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84. "yup"
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10. "Read some of the YouTube comments "
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And a few of them were from LGBT community members expressing how they're displeased with the attention this kid is getting because he's too fem and is embodying all the "stereotypical" gay mannerisms.

Is it equivalent to the way some black people feel when media attention is given to "ghetto" blacks? For lack of better words.

  

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101. "seems similar and yeah i dont mind but dude was floating up there"
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i mean i knew a couple over the top kids in high school like that. it didnt bother me that they were gay but it was annoying that they were attention whores.

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12. "I'd support my son... Call him crazy... But still support him..."
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What are the benefits of being embarrassed or not supporting him?? He's flamboyant... He could be something worse...

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14. "and pass up a free trip to LA?"
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16. "if i had a problem, i'd stfu about it. "
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b/c it's my problem, not his.
to the extent that i was uncomfortable having an effeminate son,
i would fake it till i made it.

b/c there is nothing wrong with being effeminate,
and he's gonna be however he is, no matter what i did.

and honestly, if i WERE to give my son any flack for
being effeminate, i would hope i raised him well enough for
him to be able to call me out on my homophobia
and tell me to fuck off.

  

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18. "smh, cmon bruh"
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>b/c it's my problem, not his.
>to the extent that i was uncomfortable having an effeminate
>son,
>i would fake it till i made it.
>
>b/c there is nothing wrong with being effeminate,
>and he's gonna be however he is, no matter what i did.
>
>and honestly, if i WERE to give my son any flack for
>being effeminate, i would hope i raised him well enough for
>him to be able to call me out on my homophobia
>and tell me to fuck off.
>
>

As a father you gotta train your kid how to act in public places. Yall niggas overdose with this liberal forward thinking.

  

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21. "That's that special kinda ignorance."
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>As a father you gotta train your kid how to act in public
>places. Yall niggas overdose with this liberal forward
>thinking.

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26. "i am sure that kid can ramp up or tone down his mannerisms. "
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most ppl are capable of code switching, to a degree.
most of it we learn naturally, some of it we learn intentionally.

i doubt he is wearing those clothes and using those vocal inflections and mannerisms
because he doesn't know how to be "str8 acting"/ "masculine" etc.

so that means he's doing that either because he feels more comfortable that way,
or because he wishes to use his language, speech patterns, and clothing
to assert his identity within a subculture, and he's saying "fuck you" to
anybody that has a problem with it.


so as a father, i'd have a choice to make.
i can either express my wish that my son was more masculine.
(and tbh, there is a part of me that would)
or, i can get the fuck over myself and just let
my kid do him.

i pick option 2.



>
>As a father you gotta train your kid how to act in public
>places. Yall niggas overdose with this liberal forward
>thinking.

  

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34. "Public places? He's on a talk show."
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Man. Yall be micromanaging like a mugg.

i'm out.
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158. "^^Exactly^^"
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Complete liberal overdose. Folks couldn't wait to say how much they'd support this. However, there's really nothing substantive to support here.

  

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96. "That ain't effeminate bruh. It's a cartoon. "
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It's on part with a cartoon dog with locs, a backward hat, and a skateboard. I once saw an episode of room raiders back in the day where this Jonathan Taylor Thomas lookalike was acting like some "spunky" cartoon character designed to "relate" to sensibilities kids don't even seem to have.

He doesn't come across as a gay kid, he comes across as some frat kid going undercover and turning the sass up to ridiculous levels.

It's Big Mommas House. It's rapping Mormons at a high school assembly telling you how cool it is to stay abstinent. *this* particular kid is just annoying and cartoonish, not simply effeminate. He's just as annoying as some tatted, spike TV watched meat head bro revving the engine of his lifted truck. All kinds of over the top personalities are annoying and off putting, and this kid just happens to have one of them.

  

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17. "basically you're asking would we fully embrace him?"
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- seems happy being himself
- potential to make money off of his fame

what is there not to support? oh, the whole gay thing. that says a lot about anyone who would look at their kid differently

  

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20. "http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/dontgothere.gif"
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http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/dontgothere.gif
.
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.
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22. "Fuck the effeminate thing. I don't want my kids to be vapid."
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And this kid got "famous" off of some bullshit. I'm not hating on the kid, but no, if my kid ever gets to be on a talk show at his age I want it to be for something more meaningful.

All this viral celebrity shit needs to be sifted through.


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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
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23. "nope. and i wonder if there's been a father anywhere. ever."
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if he is, then he's got a wife, like 6 daughters, and has given up on his life.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

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30. "isnt the point of parenthood to support your kids to be the best?"
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that said, wouldnt you want this kid to be his best what ever that is in his world?

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33. "no. i think the point of parenthood is to instill morals, ethics and a f..."
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for success.

if your child is a burglar, do you want him to be the best burglar he can be? how about a murder? sex fiend? liar?

i'm not saying that kid is on par with those things, but parenthood is more than just wanting your child to be the "best they can be".
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

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159. "That's not the point of parenthood at all..."
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but I guess it depends on your worldview. Supporting however your kid feels at the moment isn't a good look imo. Parents should build character and support constructive behavior. I'm not seeing that here.

  

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32. "Wouldn't be my son. Being gay and being an idiot is 2 different things."
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35. "let the gays & pc police tell it.."
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he's perfectly fine, and I'm the one with issues..lol

  

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"you do have issues"


  

          


>I'm the one with issues..lol


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37. "It's weird that lil dude is famous for being flamboyant. He's like Terio..."
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He has no apparent discernible skill except that he makes us laugh. And we know a solid portion of folks are laughing at him.

It reeks of exploitation.


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38. "its like the gay version of cooning."
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39. "no"
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I wouldn't disown him or treat him like shit about his choices, but I'm also not going to sign off on any and everything he does/ chooses.

https://banafrit.com/
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160. "^^Bingo^^"
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Folks act like you either have to affirm him or treat him poorly. There's a robust middle ground.

  

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40. "id like to say yes. but to be real"
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you aint abt to get on the damn queen latifah show in a lime green jacket, dude. you aint gonna DO that to this family.


does it really matter?

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42. "which really sums up my entire point. "
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>you aint abt to get on the damn queen latifah show in a lime
>green jacket, dude. you aint gonna DO that to this family.
>



ppl are in here saying "i don't care about the gay/ effeminate thing.
i only care about the content."

okay, sure.
but since at least 90 percent of daytime television is enough to make you
wish i had a labotomy, i can't say that the issue is about the fact that he's
not talking about shit.

it's really about family embarrassment.
the good family name.
what your friends will say at the barbershop.

all of which i understand.
all of which i would have to deal with too.


but that's the thing.
*i* would have to deal with it.
because it really is about MY discomfort with effeminate men.

it's not about me looking out for him.
it's not about rearing a kid that's a decent, ethical, smart, socially savy human being.

it's about me not want to have a kid that's not... me.

since *i* would be embarrassed if i was dressed that way on tv,
i'd project my neurosis onto the kid.


i think that's a bad thing.
ppl in this post disagree.

  

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45. "be out...but be dope while you doing it."
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that aint dope. he can vogue all day long & thats 1 thing but you will NOT be a bamma while doing it

not on my watch...we abt to be on tv, nigga lets get jazzy


does it really matter?

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52. "i mean, it's daytime talkshow banter. "
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the market for the show IS bammas.
am i being elitist here?

yeah i am.
fuck it, i'll ride it out.


that shit wasnt any more dumb than anything else i see
when tuning into daytime talk shows.
would i have a problem with my son working thy circuit?

well, maybe.

for sure i'd be more excited if he was on NPR called in as an expert panelist
to discuss ______ .

but then again, the ability to work a talkshow crowd is a valuable skill in and of itself.
if my kid has that ability, i would probably wonder where they got it.
because they certainly didn't get the mass appeal thing from me.



but anyway, if i am real with myself, if i had a problem with this,
it would be about him being effeminate in public--
not general embarrassment about him being on a daytime talk show for any reason.

so that's what I would keep in mind when i
decided how i reacted to him doing this show.


>that aint dope. he can vogue all day long & thats 1 thing but
>you will NOT be a bamma while doing it
>
>not on my watch...we abt to be on tv, nigga lets get jazzy
>
>
>does it really matter?
>
>for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth:
>http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg

  

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98. "RE: be out...but be dope while you doing it."
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>that aint dope. he can vogue all day long & thats 1 thing but
>you will NOT be a bamma while doing it
>
>not on my watch...we abt to be on tv, nigga lets get jazzy

LOL

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41. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1it45QagN8"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1it45QagN8

  

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50. "That avy.....goddamn"
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https://banafrit.com/
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43. "I'm a fairly progressive gentlemen. And I'd like to think that I will su..."
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my son in any positive endeavor to help move him forward into his destiny.

With that said.

NO. I'm not support my son acting like that mess even at the family cookout, let alone on national TV>

  

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46. "Dude, in what world are you progressive regarding the gay?"
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Be real with yourself, at least.

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48. "he tells the truth in love... respects their personhood..."
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...is open to conversation about alternative lifestyles
to try to help ppl that may be confused about their sexuality
get a deeper understanding about God and His Character...


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53. "Right, so not at all. lol. "
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59. "Sir, You need to check The Word. I WILL continue to speak the Truth."
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I recommend you go to a Bible Based study program so you can have God's Character revealed to you. I can tell you have a lot of hurt and resentment in your heart.

God's Love is waiting for you. Reflect on John 3:17. I will pray that you get God's Understanding, and will continue to spread His good news.

You are in a state of confusion, and with study you can put that mess behind you.
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63. "This, good sir, is masterful. "
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57. "Dang Joe. High Five Sir! You Got it."
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As for what SBJ is talking about, I don't know how he got any of his response from my post.


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61. "Dude, words mean things. "
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Progressives have an actual ideology regarding sexuality that you don't agree with. I mean, that's your right, but you can't seriously call yourself progressive...not without sounding completely delusional.

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66. "You seem to think that Progressiveness mean support of -"
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>Progressives have an actual ideology regarding sexuality that
>you don't agree with. I mean, that's your right, but you can't
>seriously call yourself progressive...not without sounding
>completely delusional.

homosexuality. I'm sorry sir but you can't co-opt an ideology and link / anchor it to a sexual orientation.

You can't lock the ideology into a box that fist your single mindset.


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69. "Dude, you say that you adhere to the Bible, no? Without deviation, no?"
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That is the definition of being conservative. You don't want to progress your interpretation to account for any cultural differences. You have expressed time and time again, that your stance on sexuality is literal. Again, that's your right, but that is the epitome of conservative.

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71. "Man, I'm not about to have the same Theological conversation over again"
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>That is the definition of being conservative. You don't want
>to progress your interpretation to account for any cultural
>differences. You have expressed time and time again, that your
>stance on sexuality is literal. Again, that's your right, but
>that is the epitome of conservative.


You can't define my mindset or determine how I am suppose to think about every subject. I am progressive in many areas of my life and I'm conservative in others. Who are you to determine what I can be progressive over and how that relates to my religious views. GTHOHWTBS!






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72. "Reading is fundamental, I specifically said progressive regarding sexual..."
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75. "Right. SMH.. You started off assuming."
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Asking me a SNARK laced question about something that I never said. Get On with that mess.



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110. "And you started with a disingenuous ass premise. "
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You're one of THE most conservative voices on this site. Maybe you're progressive when compared to Jerry Fallwell or Pat Robertson, but even in that context you sound right in their lane when discussing sexual orientation or gender expression. You know as well as I, you ain't no damn progressive.

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112. "Who are you to tell me what's disingenuous? "
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You sound obsessed.

>You're one of THE most conservative voices on this site.
>Maybe you're progressive when compared to Jerry Fallwell or
>Pat Robertson, but even in that context you sound right in
>their lane when discussing sexual orientation or gender
>expression. You know as well as I, you ain't no damn
>progressive.


And now you really sound obsessed and jaded. Get on with trying to figure out your life and what God keeps trying to help you get back in order and stop trying to dictate my views. Joker, my views in life don't have to line up with your agenda or interest, so you need to get back and reevaluate how you are living. Yeah, I'm conservative on some issues and I'm progressive on others. You son't het the right to tell me which ones I need to choose just to make you feel comfortable.


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114. "Who is talking about issues (plural)? We're talking about one issue..."
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and, as usual, you're talking in circles instead of just stating the truth. In regards to sexuality and gender expression, you are conservative. I didn't say that makes you a bad person or level it as some sort of attack, but it is disingenuous to position yourself as a progressive in a conversation about gender expression. I'm good with how I'm living. You, however, need to reevaluate the trolling you do while invoking God's name, but, according to your ideology, you'll have to answer for that. I'll pray for you though and maybe one day you'll see the light before it's too late.

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117. "You need to take you emotions off your sleeve killa."
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>and, as usual, you're talking in circles instead of just
>stating the truth. In regards to sexuality and gender
>expression, you are conservative. I didn't say that makes you
>a bad person or level it as some sort of attack, but it is
>disingenuous to position yourself as a progressive in a
>conversation about gender expression. I'm good with how I'm
>living. You, however, need to reevaluate the trolling you do
>while invoking God's name, but, according to your ideology,
>you'll have to answer for that. I'll pray for you though and
>maybe one day you'll see the light before it's too late.


For real on the Realla/ I could easily rebut every line you've typed while I lay back in my house shoes SMH like, "look a this nigga."

But I won't and I ain't/ But it's not like I shouldn't or I can't.

Pardon the bad grammar/ I grew up in the ghetto where you had to talk in code to avoid cops with hammers.

And proper english was something my grandmother never spoke/ because she live that county grammar/ and her words were always broke.

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Yeah/ you probably like, "What is Case doing?" / Is this fool rhyming.

Yep/ I'm glad asked/ and It's not off timing.

So when I'm done/ you'll understand the difference between disingenuous and that crap you keep trying.

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See/ I tell you my ideological position/but you keep talking about my theology.

I tell you where I stand on conservatism/ and you keep bringing up sexuality.

But this is what really bothers me/ and you fail to grasp the conversations genealogy.


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Like I told you in the beginning my balance of position/ that don't give two roach eggs about your scrambled up theology.

And I damn sure don't care if you understand me/ or if you give to breaths about me personally.

Yet you still keep making silly assumptions/ like you have an obsession with my moral directory.

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Now I could keep going and going/ but I need to hit the bed

So I can say my prayers for the night/ and tell God thank you for not killing me dead.

And I can thank the White Man too/ for telling me that I have an extra hour to rest my head.


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118. "Negro, you just wrote a poem and you calling me emotional?"
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I've literally inspired the most emotional form of writing out of you. Dude, you need to log off. It's not that deep.

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122. "That's an inspired Keystyle Rap from my days on the Freestyle Board "
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>I've literally inspired the most emotional form of writing
>out of you. Dude, you need to log off. It's not that deep.


That's not a poem You Lame! You don't even know the difference between ad poem and and rap. That's why you are so far behind in your understanding.. SMH.

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125. "Dude, you got so emotional you couldn't express yourself in prose..."
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and you're calling me lame? Seriously? You put the effort in to write/recycle a rhyme...over a post...like, for real. SMH. I thought you had thicker skin than that, but you hit-dogging all in this piece.

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127. "LOL.. Now you're trying to tell me how to express my conversation. WOW"
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You have issue guy. And yes Lame is the way of your walk.


>and you're calling me lame? Seriously? You put the effort in
>to write/recycle a rhyme...over a post...like, for real. SMH.
>I thought you had thicker skin than that, but you hit-dogging
>all in this piece.

And Clown, the rhyme was not recycled. I told you that it was inspired from my days on the Freestyle Board.


Man who hurt you. You still walking around wounded and projecting on to me. Man get right with God so that he can heal you.



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128. "Dude, you're writing rhymes over hurt feelings like a teenager. "
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You are the epitome of lame and emo. You doing all this over a post and you're the only one in this conversation that needs to get right with God. He is not pleased with your ways. The trolling and confusion you bring to conversations here is not of Him. You stay on this board playing with God and it's gonna catch up to you. You know it. That's why you keep running from the truth. He'll show you the way, though. You can deny it all you want to, but a hard head will make a soft ass. He can heal you. He can make you whole. He can fill that emptiness inside you. When he does that, you'll be able to exhibit characteristics that accurately represent the Most High. You really need to stop taking God's name in vain, though. He doesn't have anything to do with what you do on these boards. That's not going to end well for you.

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130. "^^^ This dud is so so hurt... LOL ^^^ "
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You ran up after me calling me disingenuous, like I stole your lunch money. You keep responding and talking in circles. Dude this place is a Kick-Ball on the playground but you're the only one mad because no one will push you on the swings. (you'll catch that later).

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131. "God is watching you, Case. God is watching you. "
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132. "He's watching everyone. "
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And since you know it. GET RIGHT!


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133. "He's waiting on you to get right and to stop invoking him in vain. "
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134. "On 2nd thougt"
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Never mind. I don't have the time.

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136. "This ain't about me or my knowledge and I don't have anything to prove....."
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It's about you. You, who claims to be a shepherd for the Lord, and your insistence on speaking for God about who needs to get right or who needs to build a relationship with him, as if you have any real insight into who people are outside of these boards. When God is in the midst of what you're doing there is no confusion or divisiveness, yet that's all you bring to these boards. You don't bring peace, insight, love, unity or community to these boards. You try, poorly, to invoke God as weapon and, in the process, you cause all sorts of confusion. God ain't in what you do on these boards. You keep on playing with God, though, and see what happens. I'll never know how it effects you, but I know beyond a shadow of any doubt it will.

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138. "Man you really don't have a clue do you? (Rhetorical) "
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You can't toss rocks and then hide your hands or cover your actions by claiming ignorance.

I'm done. You are just rambling for the sake of it.


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141. "Oh, I have more than a clue, I see you for what you are. "
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You will always know a tree by the fruit it bears and it's quite easy to see who and what it is you represent...and it ain't God.

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142. "In a nutshell that's what the Devil tried to tell Eve."
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143. "I'm thinking more Matthew 7:15-20..."
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but go ahead and keep acting ignorant.

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144. "Get up on that Mark 4:12"
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..., "'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"

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145. "and you get up on that 2 Corinthians 11:14-15..."
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This my last reply to you, btw.

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152. "You need to Read Jude 1 and embrace it."
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>This my last reply to you, btw.


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109. "that's not where it stops, 'member this fool"
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was in the Ray Rice posting "defending their marriage", you know "they worked it out"

he supports militarism, go check his Marines signing post

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44. "ain't this like gay cooning?"
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I'd be embarrassed by him acting like a stereotype

if he was str8 and acting thugged out and ignorant I'd be just as ashamed



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47. "maybe. "
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depends on how you are using the word "cooning."
i suspect you're using it in a very broad way.

which means that anybody that portrays a stereotypical image of a minority group
for a mass audience is "cooning."

i dislike that definition, because it's too broad.
by your definition, Martin was cooning. So was 2pac. So was NWA.

we could flesh out what you mean by cooning,
whether you feel it's a pejorative in every case,
and why, exactly, you think this qualifies.


but let's not do that, because why waste time.
we don't agree, I'm sure.

  

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60. "or we could just be real with ourselves and not over complicate shyt"
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when we both know what cooning in this instance is

dude is not a talented comedian who has honed his craft for years

he's famous for being a spectacle




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67. "neither is rihanna. "
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can't really sing.
can't really dance.
not a genius by any stretch.

but has taken what she's got and pushed it about as far as it can go.
and part of that is playing up a role as being the
Libidinous Black Sex Kitten.

should she not be that?
is she cooning?
if she was, is that bad?
why?


like i said, i know what you mean.
and like i said, the answer is "maybe."
whether or not that's a bad thing is something we could debate forever,
if we were so inclined.


>when we both know what cooning in this instance is
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73. "so basically arguing to be arguing"
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gotcha.


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74. "as i said, we COULD argue about it for days. "
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it could be an interesting discussion, if the right ppl were on board.
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78. "yea me being logical pretty much excludes me from this dumb argument. "
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80. "yeah, me too. "
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49. "i would be embarassed if i had a daughter who acted that way"
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or a son

i can't stand "diva" shit. it's obnoxious cartoonish, vapid, douchy behavior

i'd also rather my kid not be one of those famous for no reason people lol

  

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54. "^^^This. Boy or girl, they grounded."
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62. "yeah, that'll change things. "
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83. "Probably not, but i'd really hate my kid to be some caricature"
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55. "That better be just for the cameras"
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He can't be that damn annoying 24-7

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58. "some folks are"
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life is a performance for them
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56. "I'd feel like a failure and question where I went wrong."
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His sexual preference isn't as much of an issue as the way he conducts himself. As a parent, I'd question where we went wrong that this child thinks it's okay to make a caricature of himself. Parents patting me on the back like I feel sorry for you. I wouldn't show up and as parental support. However, this is my child so no matter how disgusted, horrified, and ashamed I felt, the child still receives love and knows I have their back.

  

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64. "Hell no...and he just gonna have to be mad"
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65. "yup. if my son was on death row I'd be there too."
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It's called being a parent.

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68. "FOH like that's even remotely the same, if you're son is going on..."
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death row it ain't by choice, lol

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129. "what he did to get on death row could be his choice."
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70. "hurts the male/patriarchal ego because it subverts"
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the traditional masculine archetype

  

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76. "That isn't a bad thing."
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82. "having assumptions challenged is uncomfortable"
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nm

  

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86. "That's fine. But it's often stated as having opinions/stances based on...."
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a "traditional" standard of behavior is a bad thing.

In this case, it's usually when it comes from men.

There's nothing wrong with a person having an expectation based on a standard and choosing to not support something based on such a standard.

Put it this way...

If a man and a woman are together somewhere, and there is a threat of danger, automatically the man is typically expected to be the protector and stand in the face of that danger.

If that man turns and runs, leaving the woman behind, he will no doubt lose all respect from that woman. He will be viewed as less of a man.

In that situation, there is an expectation of masculinity based on traditional roles and if that man doesn't live up to that, he's automatically judged by the person involved and anyone else that witnesses or hears about it.

In our society, such a reaction to contrary behavior is deemed acceptable. No argument.

However in this case, if a man reacts negatively to a kid on TV not behaving with a sense of composure or "masculinity" expected of a gentleman in a public setting, somehow that's wrong. Such a view is criticized.

That's all I'm saying.

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93. "we should teach girls to fight and defend themselves"
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than it wouldn't be an automatic expectation of men to "protect" them, which they don't anyway, this is a myth. men are usually the ones that women need protection from, and usually its other women that do it.

as far as expectations of masculinity, maybe men should accept their own feminine attributes within themselves, so that femininity doesn't look alien when they're presented with it in a non traditional package, or so they don't feel the need to over-exaggerate it in the first place because of a lifetime of self rejection and rejection by ones peers and loved ones

  

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94. "You're somewhere else right now."
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>than it wouldn't be an automatic expectation of men to
>"protect" them, which they don't anyway, this is a myth. men
>are usually the ones that women need protection from, and
>usually its other women that do it.

This isn't a myth. Men protect women from other men and other dangerous situations all the time. You may need to surround yourself with better men if you've never seen this take place.

>
>as far as expectations of masculinity, maybe men should accept
>their own feminine attributes within themselves, so that
>femininity doesn't look alien when they're presented with it
>in a non traditional package, or so they don't feel the need
>to over-exaggerate it in the first place because of a lifetime
>of self rejection and rejection by ones peers and loved ones

You're completely missing the point with this. What I'm saying is that typically, when a woman has an expectation of a man based on a standard of masculinity, this is widely accepted and rarely criticized.

However, when a man has a view of another male based on an expectation of masculinity (as opposed to femininity), this is often criticized.

This isn't a call to action for men to accept "femininity within themselves", it's a statement that having a belief based on a traditional standard isn't necessarily a bad thing at its core, as it's often made out to be. Meaning, a woman expecting a man to stand up like one in specific situations isn't a bad thing, and a man saying a young man shouldn't be acting like a x100 drag queen on television isn't a bad thing either.

Even if a woman CAN fight for herself (as she should be able to), feeling like a man is less of a man for leaving her behind to defend herself alone isn't a bad thing.

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97. "k"
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100. "i'll tackle this one. "
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the question is: "is the enforcement of gender roles inherently bad?"
to be honest, i'm not a fan, for maybe obvious reasons.

maybe i would find gender roles less cumbersome if i fit into
the role of the "alpha" male (god, i hate that word. we aren't gorillas.)

maybe i would find gender roles less cumbersome if i wasn't gay and if i
didn't spend so much time in my youth trying not to look "suspect."
(and look at the dividends that paid! now ppl think i'm really "str8 acting"
all those critiques from my mom about "boys don't do that" really paid off.
i'm perfectly well adjusted now)

but you didn't really mention those things.
you talked about how a man is expected to be the hunter/ provider/ self-sacrificing protector.

how do i feel about that gender role?

i think it's fine, i guess.
but i also think it's importance is overstated.
most ppl don't find themselves in life or death situations,
and you don't know how you'll react until you're in one.

further, if i had a daughter, i wouldn't want to socialize her to
be a damsel in distress. yes, men are bigger, but i wouldn't want her
to feel they need or should expect protection from them.
and yes, that IS the implication when you train her brother to be the protector.

i don't like that.

is it inherently harmful?
maybe, maybe not.
if i were to express the concept in a gender neutral way
(something i am always in favor of) in the event you have a ride or die partner (friend, battle buddy, significant other, whatever) it really should be a two way street. We both should be in this shit together.


but like i said, this life or death scenerio ppl always trot out in defense of gender roles
is weird. mostly because it isn't applicable to most ppl's lives nowadays.


what's more relevant in the context of this video, is that ppl are weirded out
that a boy is dressing and talking like a girl, and that is weirding them out because they're _______ .


it doesn't have anything to do with anything else.

  

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102. "First and foremost, my example wasn't purely about life or death."
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It's about the average woman's expectation of a man to be her vision of "fit to lead" or simply "manly".

Whether life or death or deciding where to go on a date, women typically have an expectation of a man fit to be their suitor which is rooted in a vision of masculinity.

It isn't that women aren't/can't be trained to do the same, but when a man is in the picture, there is an expectation of "whether I can do this or not, I expect you to be the first line of defense".

If my wife and I are laying in bed at night and there is a funny sound downstairs, she will look at me sideways if I say "I think you should check that out". But if it's just her, she will handle it.

And I'm saying that this is fine.

Similarly, it's fine for a father to not be supportive of his son behaving in a manner that is not of his vision of a young man.

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104. "parents can raise kids however they see fit. "
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really, they can.
short of locking kids in closets and beating them to the point where there are scars,
parents can say whatever the fuck they want to their kids.

and of course, women can date whoever they want.

do i think it's fucked up that parents are bragging about
how much they would discipline this effeminate boy for being effeminate?

yeah, i do.
because *insert reasons that aren't worth talking about any more*



>It's about the average woman's expectation of a man to be her
>vision of "fit to lead" or simply "manly".
>
>Whether life or death or deciding where to go on a date, women
>typically have an expectation of a man fit to be their suitor
>which is rooted in a vision of masculinity.
>
>And I'm saying that this is fine.
>
>Similarly, it's fine for a father to not be supportive of his
>son behaving in a manner that is not of his vision of a young
>man.
>
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106. "that's fine, they do."
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>really, they can.
>short of locking kids in closets and beating them to the point
>where there are scars,
>parents can say whatever the fuck they want to their kids.
>
>and of course, women can date whoever they want.
>

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164. "Yep"
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Traditional is a bad word. Half these folks don't support that behavior as much as they're just going against what they think people with traditional values would say.

Orientation aside, nothing that kid was doing was positive.

  

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166. "exactly."
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>Traditional is a bad word. Half these folks don't support
>that behavior as much as they're just going against what they
>think people with traditional values would say.
>

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77. "he's doing what it takes to get on TV"
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is he this way at home? who knows

but (assuming stardom is a dream) does he have to be this way on camera for the Queen Latifah show? absolutely

you can compare it to cooning (it isnt much different from Bobby Shmurda dancing on tables), but it doesnt feel as exploitative

  

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79. "with a rainbow shirt on! This kid is hilarious"
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81. "This kid has created a huge character... he needs to be on Broadway."
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ya'll really taking this far..


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85. "even the drag queen on the show said he was too much, lol. His mom..."
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and sister were there, no mention of dad.

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87. "^^ Sees it ^^"
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88. "wrong. pops was there, next to the sister."
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89. "you're right, my bad, he was trying to hide and didn't have to much to....."
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say, lol

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90. "well, that was definitely annoying."
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i couldn't watch the whole thing.

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92. "i got through 2 minutes"
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>i couldn't watch the whole thing.

  

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99. "u got through 2 minutes more than me"
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I have children, one of which is a 15yr old girl who plays basketball. Poorly.

I still support her. Dont mean I like it. Doesn't mean I approve of her moves on court (fighting over a jump-ball) or off-court.

I teach her as best I can, we work it out.

I know what the OP was going for, but you cant hide from who/what your kids becomes. Not forever. And that doesn't mean blindly endorsing every thing they do. But it doesn't mean tearing them down or shaming em either.

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103. "i think it's more about character though"
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if my son is gay - all good
if my son is effeminate - all good. he is who he is
but if my son (or daughter) conducts themself like an obnoxious attention starved diva caricature, i'm probably gonna be pretty disappointed.

now if that's how they turn out and they're not hurting anyone, i would ultimately have to accept that, but i'd just like to think i didn't raise the type of person i find so personally annoying.

  

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105. "dead ass. the children have brought us all types of glorious slang and "
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just overall joy with their shade and tea and what have you
but that kid was just obnoxious as fuck
i'd be tight if my kid turned out that annoying lol

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137. "RE: dead ass. the kids? have brought us all types of glorious slang and "
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idr

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139. "It's so weird to hear a str8 person refer to gays as "the children." lol"
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I thought that was still underground slang among us. Times are so different now. lol

  

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140. "anyone with a television and cable could pick that one up lol"
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i've known of the term since my teens
and i'm pretty sure i got it from tv

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157. "I wonder on what TV shows they are they mentioning "the children.""
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>i've known of the term since my teens
>and i'm pretty sure i got it from tv

Damn, I feel old and out of touch. It's interesting because the term is not mainstream gay -- I'm pretty sure it specifically comes from the Black gay community (from marginalized folks who usually don't make it onto daytime talk shows).

I must be missing some good ass television lol.

  

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180. "LOL"
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i've watched a lot of random documentaries and shit in my day
i can't pin point for sure where i heard it but tvs the only place i coulda picked it up
before i had internet (or even a computer)
and i feel like i've heard margaret cho use the term too lol

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91. "i guess by the time my son is on t.v. i'd already be used to it"
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95. "yeah but i'd be embarassed that i raised an attention whore."
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107. "I mean, be honest...he IS slaying. "
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I'd be proud knowing he's being the best _____ he can be.


I would consider making another son tho. Somebody gotta be rawing these queens and passing my genetics recklessly, if not him.

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126. "even the drag queen said he was doing too much, lol"
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108. "awe hes cute"
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111. "If curb your enthusiasm comes back, he should be a friend of the seducti..."
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child that was in the final episode.

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113. "none of yall would allow this..let me repeat"
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NONE OF YALL WOULD ALLOW THIS SHIT


  

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121. "I'm buying that kid a one way ticket to military school "
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with his tv money

  

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115. "If the father wasn't okay with this..."
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... he probably wouldn't have let his kid go on Queen Latifah. So I suspect the dad is totally fine with it.

Plus, kid clearly knows who he is. I imagine the dad, if he had hang ups about his son's flamboyance, has had a LONG time to reconcile who his son is and to become okay with it.

I'm sure, like all A+ personalities, this kid can either be the life of your party or the biggest pain in your ass imaginable, depending on your mood.

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116. "yup..that little fool getting paid"
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you accept people as they are..especially your own kids..cmon

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119. "Star Baby Jones is not Starks dunked on Bulls-- that realization went a "
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long way in helping me make sense of this thread

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120. "I would be in the audience "
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doing this
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135. "the hat removal and toss makes this perfect."
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123. "I'd be grilling my family wondering if anyone touch him"
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as a child.

that shit is over the top (compensating)

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124. "hell no"
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146. "Kid needs to learn that swag is better than flamboyance"
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If you want to wear outlandish clothes and flout societal conventions of behaviour and dress, you better be doing from a rock or hip-hop platform.

We're far more comfortable letting men make misogynistic references to women while glorifying drugs and violence, especially it's over a nice beat we can nod our heads to.

You can smash up your hotel room, demand square melons and be rude in interviews as long as it's in a rock context and it's clear you're sleeping with many, many women through the process.

We've spent a long time setting up this hierarchy of tolerance for shallow, destructive behaviour, and we're not about to let this kid threaten our sensibilities with this unsanctioned persona, let alone our own kids. The sooner our kids get used to conditional love, the better.

Just IMO though.

  

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147. "nice try but none of that other behavior you mentioned would be..."
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acceptable from a child either.

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148. "I get that you're okay with adult misogyny rather than child misogyny"
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You didn't need to tell me. That's not a surprise from someone who has tried to use child abuse as a punchline in the past. That's not my point, however. Nice try though.

Just IMO though.

  

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153. "loud and wrong like usual, go back to lurking."
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156. "So you can use child abuse as a punchline like you did with me?"
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Or maybe claiming that gays being raped in Iraq are enjoying it, or whatever other acts of human depravity you get a laugh out of?

no.

I'll stick to reducing you to adjectives and impotent imperatives.

Just IMO though.

  

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163. "so what exactly was this imaginary punchline you're ranting about?"
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167. "Oh, you thought based on some things I said that I'd been abused"
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so you decided to taunt me with it.

I wouldn't expect it to stick in your memory, as free and casual as you are with such sentiments.

Just IMO though.

  

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171. "State exactly what you THINK i said or STFU."
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172. "You mean like the time you said Iraqi gays being raped by police enjoy i..."
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well, you tried asking me whether I'd been abused, and when I refused you decided to taunt:

"Yeah, you were abused"

Classy from a so-called Christian, but then, you are the type to go hard against gays because the Bible says but then are all up in the porn posts having a good time.

But keep going, please.

Just IMO though.

  

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174. "I vaguely remember that post from years ago but I'm pretty sure those..."
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weren't my exact words, either way it has nothing to do with how wrong your original statement was about the current topic.

I'm sorry that you're still in your feelings about something you think I might've said 5 years ago.


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175. "Either you vaguely remember or you're sure"
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>weren't my exact words, either way it has nothing to do with
>how wrong your original statement was about the current
>topic.
>
>I'm sorry that you're still in your feelings about something
>you think I might've said 5 years ago.

But since you needed several prompts, I'm pretty sure you don't know, you're just trying to deny to cover your horrible attitude towards abuse. I remember it, because that's a pretty insulting thing for a so-called Christian to try to do to someone who might have been abused.

Of course it's trivial to you, because obviously being Christian only matters when you're using it to advance your bigotry. Thanks for making it even clearer.

And as to my original statement, you haven't actually addressed it, and you made the rest relevant by trying to tell me to go back to lurking, to which I responded that I won't, if it's going to let you put your attitudes forward, then explained why, based on my previous experience with you.

Just IMO though.

  

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176. "ok, so to recap, you're still loud and wrong."
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178. "Adjectives won't deflect from your woeful attitude to abuse"
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Or the hypocrisy of you taking a stand on gays but delighting in porn.

Just IMO though.

  

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183. "okayplayer. n/m"
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184. "Oh, finished with the denials? Enjoy your porn hypocrite."
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>

Just IMO though.

  

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150. "Ted is back!"
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149. "y'all some shitty ass parents"
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Not as though he is a murderer, support your damn kids

  

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151. "and Vingtune!"
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154. "what exactly would you be supporting?"
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155. "a flaming faggot on the daytime talkshow circuit. "
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he can be gay without being a flaming faggot.
why can't he talk about something of substance like the rest of the
daytime talkshow guests?

yesterday, on the view, they had a rousing discussion about
new developments in quantum theory, and the implications those developments have
about what we think we know about the origins of the universe.

if my kid was on a daytime talkshow, THAT'S what i'd want my kid to be known for.

the problem is a lack of masculine male role models in this kid's life.
send him to boarding school.
maybe he needs to be grounded or something?

folks are too PC to admit that
this kid's persona is ridiculous.


nobody cares about this kid,
liberals need to give it a rest.

  

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161. "So you think it's ok for you to call that kid a "flaming faggot"? "
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A Slur? Really?

>he can be gay without being a flaming faggot.
>why can't he talk about something of substance like the rest
>of the
>daytime talkshow guests?



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168. "He made his sexuality an issue by promoting that Lifestyle. "
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He brought it on himself and These liberals are hypocrites because On the one hand they say it's okay for
this kid to do whatever he wants, but if I call them out on that mess then I'm a homophobe?

Get the heck out of here!


  

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179. "So, again you think it's ok to call a kid a "flaming faggot". "
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Disagreeing with someones choice is fine and acceptable. But it's down right wring to call a kid a "flaming faggot".


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165. "I think its child exploitation which is sad, to me its no different than..."
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Lil Terrio.

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170. "oh. "
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162. "yeah because anything short of murder deserves support."
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169. "I wouldn't be there and neither would he"
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This "support whatever ridiculous thing your kid wants to do at the moment" stuff is silly.

  

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177. "I would not want my child laughed at and exploited in this way"
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seeking a approval by being a joke? nah

this is just like Antoine Dobson and the asian dude that blew up from American Idol for acting a fool...it's funny, but I'm sure it had to take a toll on them mentally





  

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181. "I showed this video to my Bible-thumping mom."
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She laughed from start to finish, then she said "Good on his parents for letting him be."

Surprised me but also made me proud.

I think as long as this boy knows how to turn off the performance when appropriate and
is a person of depth inside -- and he's doing well in school -- he's okay with me.

  

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182. "^"
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>She laughed from start to finish, then she said "Good on his
>parents for letting him be."
>
>Surprised me but also made me proud.
>
>I think as long as this boy knows how to turn off the
>performance when appropriate and
>is a person of depth inside -- and he's doing well in school
>-- he's okay with me.

Just IMO though.

  

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