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Clarence Clarke
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"OKP: Let's help Shanesha Taylor"
Thu Mar-27-14 10:25 PM by Clarence Clarke

  

          

This is a terrible situation... woman was just trying to provide for her family.

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On Shanesha Taylor, The Mother Who Allegedly Left Her Kids In A Car To Go On A Job Interview And The True Cost of Ignoring The Poor
BY GREG WHITT / 03.27.14

Shanesha Taylor of Scottsdale, Ariz. wanted to make a better life for herself and her two young children, and she got the opportunity in a call for a job interview last Thursday.

She went in for the interview, but with no one available to care for her children ages two and six-months allegedly she left them unattended in her SUV for over 30 minutes. A bystander heard the childrens cries, alerted the authorities, and Taylor was arrested on two counts of felony child abuse.

Desperation leading to poor decisions is almost a template for crime. A mother steals a loaf of bread. A man without transportation who cannot afford to miss a day of work runs out on a cab fare. Crimes such as these, not borne out of greed or malice but a lack of options, makes the perpetrators themselves play dual roles as victims and culprits. Questions about how we failed these people are as important as the details of the crimes committed.

Upon her arrest, Taylor reportedly told the officers that she was homeless. What were her options? Did she have family? Friends? Lets say that she didnt. Who could have taken on these children? Would a local day care center be willing watch her kids for free, while shouldering the insurance liability and running the risk of losing their license?

Probably not.

Could she have dropped her children off at a local police station for an hour? Not likely. Citizens are rallying around Taylor by setting up a fundraising page, but it may not be enough.

If the facts of this case and the mitigating circumstances prove true, then society failed Shanesha Taylor as much as she failed her children. To be clear, leaving an infant and a two-year-old in a car on an 80 degree day for any amount of time was unbelievably dangerous, and could have ended in an even worse tragedy.

As it stands, we now have a still jobless mother who could lose custody of her children, facing two felonies in Sheriff Joe Arpaios racist, unforgiving Maricopa County.

I hope Shanesha Taylor sees how close she came to losing her children. I hope she gets a second chance to do right by them. I hope that the prosecutors and judges show mercy. I hope that the lawmakers and officials who cut the budgets for childcare, healthcare, and job training, while looking down with contempt upon those citizens attempting to climb up from the lowest rungs of society see the true cost of their folly.



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DONATE HERE:
Mar 27th 2014
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was in a HUGE debate about this case yday.
Mar 27th 2014
2
It's arizona
Mar 27th 2014
3
Yeah I ain't realize it was Arizona.
Mar 28th 2014
28
6 months and 2???---
Mar 27th 2014
4
Family Friends?--
Mar 27th 2014
5
RE: OKP: Let's help Shanesha Taylor
Mar 27th 2014
6
true true....
Mar 28th 2014
10
      RE: true true....
Mar 28th 2014
11
           Yea I sat in the car 4 someone
Mar 28th 2014
22
fuked up situation but naw.
Mar 27th 2014
7
Man, this ain't gonna go well...We child advocates on this site.
Mar 28th 2014
8
No. Let's not.
Mar 28th 2014
9
I feel for her. :(
Mar 28th 2014
12
she's raised 25k
Mar 28th 2014
13
people are fucking morons
Mar 28th 2014
16
double that now.
Mar 30th 2014
32
I'm torn. On one hand, I def agree don't leave your kids alone in a
Mar 28th 2014
14
bullshit--
Mar 28th 2014
15
Lots of parents deal with this issue most of them don't endanger the kid...
Mar 28th 2014
18
im sayin--
Mar 28th 2014
24
for reals..
Mar 28th 2014
25
Lots of homeless parents?
Mar 31st 2014
93
      Yes but we don't read about it because they choose to not leave the kid...
Mar 31st 2014
97
           i think we don't hear about a lot of homeless parents that DO, as well.
Mar 31st 2014
98
                RE: i think we don't hear about a lot of homeless parents that DO, as we...
Mar 31st 2014
100
                     make one
Mar 31st 2014
115
                          RE: make one
Mar 31st 2014
117
Agreed.
Mar 28th 2014
19
yep
Mar 28th 2014
20
you dont have kids--
Mar 28th 2014
23
Yeah... I can see this too.
Mar 30th 2014
57
And that's usually how it spirals
Mar 30th 2014
68
Yep
Mar 31st 2014
132
Real talk.
Mar 30th 2014
31
if you got this few options though...getting that job aint helping
Mar 31st 2014
118
      hopefully with a job she'd be able to afford daycare or a sitter.
Mar 31st 2014
136
      I'm sayin'
Mar 31st 2014
140
      Are you voicing the devil on her shoulder, my nig?
Mar 31st 2014
141
I think charity starts at home. This is a good illustration why.
Mar 28th 2014
17
it's not like one person sent $25k
Mar 28th 2014
21
they were right to take her kids from her.
Mar 28th 2014
26
Kinda weird that people HOPE she doesn't get jail time, but opposed
Apr 01st 2014
142
do the interview over skype
Mar 28th 2014
27
Nah.
Mar 28th 2014
29
Interview with the woman who started the fundraiser (link)
Mar 30th 2014
30
so she's in touch with the the ladies mother AND the father of the
Mar 30th 2014
34
"been in contact with the family & the father of the kids"
Mar 30th 2014
66
RE: OKP: Let's help Shanesha Taylor
Mar 30th 2014
33
That's the thing. Everyone's talking about how she shouldn't have left
Mar 30th 2014
35
RE: That's the thing. Everyone's talking about how she shouldn't have le...
Mar 30th 2014
38
      alllllll that shit failed. But we got guns in church now. We are becomin...
Mar 30th 2014
39
Preach, sister.
Mar 30th 2014
43
She was extremely reckless and showed extremely poor
Mar 30th 2014
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RE: She was extremely reckless and showed extremely poor
Mar 30th 2014
40
      by the time she found a church to babysit her kids or give her $$, the
Mar 30th 2014
41
           If nobody could help she could put her kids in foster care
Mar 30th 2014
44
           oh my god!!!--
Mar 30th 2014
48
                RIF, the suggestion was that she go to a church for $$ or to babysit.
Mar 30th 2014
49
not enough information to donate...these vague online sympathy cash
Mar 30th 2014
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RE: not enough information to donate...these vague online sympathy cash
Mar 30th 2014
50
Donated...the lack of empathy for the poor on this board
Mar 30th 2014
42
quite a leap to conclude a lack of empathy for the poor...
Mar 30th 2014
45
Right
Mar 30th 2014
46
There are poor people in other countries who prostitute their children.
Mar 30th 2014
51
Why do you always feel the need to write these essays
Mar 30th 2014
52
Becuase I don't hate the notion of people thoroughly articulating their ...
Mar 30th 2014
54
      Either address my question about what we should do now
Mar 30th 2014
59
           or you can just be quiet and stop contradicting yourself.
Mar 30th 2014
61
           So you have nothing like I thought
Mar 30th 2014
67
                I'm not here to answer the questions of a simple minded, over opinionate...
Mar 30th 2014
70
                     you're so angry lol nm
Mar 30th 2014
72
                          I literally responded to you the same way you responded to me
Mar 30th 2014
77
           what should be done:--
Mar 30th 2014
63
                ok
Mar 30th 2014
69
                     and she'd already gone to community college
Mar 30th 2014
73
                     temporarily is 3 to 6 months--
Mar 30th 2014
79
Amen!
Mar 30th 2014
55
cause the only way to express empathy is to give money
Mar 30th 2014
53
That's what the family needs!! lol nm
Mar 30th 2014
58
You don't care what people think. Why are you responding to their though...
Mar 30th 2014
62
no they need a parent--
Mar 30th 2014
64
      Part of being a good parents is having the necessary
Mar 30th 2014
71
      sure--
Mar 30th 2014
81
           You done jumped from endangered to almost killed to killed.
Mar 30th 2014
88
      Call down and think rationally for a minute, fam.
Mar 30th 2014
76
           if you're a parent--
Mar 30th 2014
83
                Oh, so you'e saying fuck her for being homeless.
Mar 30th 2014
87
How are you expressing it in this situation?
Mar 30th 2014
75
      I shook my head and let out a deep sigh.
Mar 31st 2014
131
The only thing more shameful than that is the lengths some people
Mar 30th 2014
56
and its only cause just she's black--
Mar 30th 2014
65
      Yes I'm very concerned with the plight of Black people
Mar 30th 2014
74
      because then its not true compassion--
Mar 30th 2014
80
           Yeah it is...don't be dense man nm
Mar 30th 2014
82
                yeah definitely 'nm'--
Mar 30th 2014
84
      Nigga jump clear off the planet with this bullshit.
Mar 30th 2014
78
           it aint an insult--
Mar 30th 2014
85
                You right. It's a flat out lie. Foh duke.
Mar 30th 2014
86
                If it were a man who did this, would you still be angry?
Mar 31st 2014
133
That's about the size of it.
Mar 31st 2014
94
this post makes me hate people--
Mar 30th 2014
47
She had two bad options, and chose the worst one.
Mar 30th 2014
60
to all of you claiming the kids were in a "hot" car... just stop.
Mar 31st 2014
89
Mar 31st 2014
90
i mean seriously.
Mar 31st 2014
91
Because 80 degrees in PHX is barely warm
Mar 31st 2014
99
      LOL I have family there and visit 3-4 times a year.
Mar 31st 2014
102
           bruh, look...
Mar 31st 2014
111
                Bruh, look, you keep ignoring the temperature IN THE CAR.
Mar 31st 2014
112
RE: to all of you claiming the kids were in a "hot" car... jus...
Mar 31st 2014
101
^ exactly. Lol
Mar 31st 2014
109
Did I say that this was OK???
Mar 31st 2014
113
      RE: Did I say that this was OK???
Mar 31st 2014
114
      please re-read and comprehend what I wrote
Mar 31st 2014
120
      u implied the actual temp mattered but continue cooking
Mar 31st 2014
116
           The only thing I implied was that PHX 80 degrees ain't hot
Mar 31st 2014
119
                True or false: the tempature IN a car is hotter than OUT of the car
Mar 31st 2014
121
                     Want to know why?
Mar 31st 2014
122
                          Ambient, schmambient. Add wind and humidity factors to that.
Mar 31st 2014
124
lol are you serious?
Nov 04th 2014
167
no
Mar 31st 2014
92
too little too late
Mar 31st 2014
95
Anybody know how the interview went?
Mar 31st 2014
96
i have a potentially stupid question about the donation site
Mar 31st 2014
103
that's not a stupid question at all
Mar 31st 2014
104
wow....
Mar 31st 2014
105
surprise!
Mar 31st 2014
106
LOLOLOLOL--
Mar 31st 2014
126
a shame for the people that donated
Mar 31st 2014
107
RE: wow....
Mar 31st 2014
108
i bet they brought their babies w/them too
Mar 31st 2014
110
The girl has addressed this on her Facebook page..
Mar 31st 2014
127
      answering for myself....i didn't say it was silly...i said i need more
Mar 31st 2014
129
           It's currently the 3rd post down.
Mar 31st 2014
130
                she doesn't address it..she says she was accused of it....lol...lawd.
Mar 31st 2014
137
                     She also says she was asked not to release personal info...
Mar 31st 2014
139
                          you realize MANY people commit fraud and do the same thing?
Apr 01st 2014
143
                               Please gimme some links to these stories.
Apr 01st 2014
144
                                    here you go...
Apr 01st 2014
145
                                         I don't see where any of them did interviews BEFORE being exposed
Apr 01st 2014
146
Very valid question. Reply 127 tho.
Mar 31st 2014
128
RE: OKP: Let's help Shanesha Taylor
Mar 31st 2014
123
B-B-B-But that's a cool spring breeze in Arizona!
Mar 31st 2014
125
I mean, shit....the babies already 98 degrees they damn selves
Mar 31st 2014
135
I mean if she left them on the sun I could see people being upset
Mar 31st 2014
134
AZ takes their temperatures differently.
Mar 31st 2014
138
are you case_one?
Apr 01st 2014
147
Me? LOL.
Apr 01st 2014
148
Interview with MSNBC (link)
Apr 01st 2014
149
Amanda's interview with Fox Philly (link)
Apr 03rd 2014
150
Shanesha commented on one of Amanda's FB posts (link)
Apr 03rd 2014
151
Amanda's interview on Tom Joyner (link)
Apr 04th 2014
152
Interview on ABC
Apr 09th 2014
153
And finally, for those who doubted Amanda Bishop's honesty
Jul 24th 2014
154
^
Jul 25th 2014
155
glad that turned out well!
Jul 25th 2014
157
was Edson ever convicted/sentenced tho??? (link)
Jul 25th 2014
156
Plead guilty in Sept 2013 but not sentenced yet?
Jul 25th 2014
158
not sure how anyone can watch this CNN interview and walk away
Aug 09th 2014
159
Why? Cause she speaks well? Cause she has a pleasant appearance?
Nov 04th 2014
165
charges to be refiled. failed to set up trust find. judge wants ReCEIPTS
Nov 03rd 2014
160
lol not surprised at all
Nov 03rd 2014
161
some reports said she never even got the kids back smh
Nov 04th 2014
162
RE: charges to be refiled. failed to set up trust find. judge wants ReCE...
Nov 04th 2014
163
You can't give a bad mother with no job $100K
Nov 04th 2014
166
"You can't give a bad mother with no job $100K" <--- I mean................
Nov 04th 2014
172
RE: charges to be refiled. failed to set up trust find. judge wants ReCE...
Nov 05th 2014
174
Okp stay getting egg on their face man.
Nov 04th 2014
168
      we agree like a muhfucka here
Nov 04th 2014
169
      lol funniest part is seein em ghost afterwards
Nov 04th 2014
171
      ehh, not that much. any donation to red cross, panhandlers, church
Nov 05th 2014
175
      You think this is the same as giving a check to Red Cross?
Nov 17th 2014
180
      and it's always the SAME high & mighty "enlightened" ones too...
Nov 18th 2014
187
No. Arizona-- Hell No
Nov 04th 2014
164
she left a 6 month old with a 2 year old, and folks talking about
Nov 04th 2014
170
Who is PoppaGeorge's HS science teacher
Nov 05th 2014
173
Seriously.
Nov 18th 2014
185
so according to this article she spent some of the money on studio time
Nov 17th 2014
176
and was offered FREE child care to work any of these jobs.
Nov 17th 2014
177
Why work when she could live off the gullibility, OOPS!
Nov 17th 2014
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      RE: Why work when she could live off the gullibility, OKPS!<----fixed it
Nov 19th 2014
190
lol she ain't shyt but I hope this ain't true
Nov 17th 2014
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      RE: lol she ain't shyt but I hope this ain't true
Nov 17th 2014
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      Engineer: "Yo son, drop that that heat son!"
Nov 17th 2014
184
Hey what happened to the homeless dude with the beautiful voice?
Nov 17th 2014
181
He actually surfaced in some video last week
Nov 17th 2014
183
      fck you make me watch a whole minute of that b4 getting to the meat??
Nov 18th 2014
186
wonder why the court didnt appoint a conservatorship for her money
Nov 18th 2014
188
anyone regret donating?
Nov 19th 2014
191
^^getting points on the back end
Nov 19th 2014
192

Clarence Clarke
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1. "DONATE HERE:"
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http://www.youcaring.com/help-a-neighbor/shanesha-taylor-fundraiser/153519

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2. "was in a HUGE debate about this case yday."
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i had her back
but that WAS a hot ass day, didn't know that when i started arguing lol

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3. "It's arizona"
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Always a hot ass day

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28. "Yeah I ain't realize it was Arizona."
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4. "6 months and 2???---"
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heyll fucking no

you gotta be kidding with this shit....

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5. "Family Friends?--"
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....Lets say that she didnt...

really?

man if you dont get this bullshit outta here

  

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6. "RE: OKP: Let's help Shanesha Taylor"
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Thu Mar-27-14 11:08 PM by auset1

  

          

Don't leave your children in a hot car for any reason.
Job interview will have to be rescheduled risking not getting the job but I'll just keep on looking.
No excuse ever to do that. Ever.
Hot car cold car cool car any car...don't leave them.



I'm not throwing stones at her, I've been homeless, I've lived n a shelter so I sympathize..I have a child, was a single mother for a while, had to take my baby with me everywhere, no sitting in the car to run in the store, to pay for gas, to do anything, he was on oxygen so the tank had to come with us too.
You aren't gonna have a sitter all the time, that's a fact..you can't risk your child's safety because of it, job interview be damned.
Stay home and regroup.



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10. "true true...."
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I remember I had a friend meet me and my youth one time while I popped into an interview and they went to Toys R Us.

Wasn't the best option but it sufficed.


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11. "RE: true true...."
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Nothing wrong with what you did at all.

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22. "Yea I sat in the car 4 someone"
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And didn't fall asleep that time...

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7. "fuked up situation but naw."
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That ish couldve ended horribly


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8. "Man, this ain't gonna go well...We child advocates on this site. "
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9. "No. Let's not. "
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12. "I feel for her. :("
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13. "she's raised 25k"
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16. "people are fucking morons"
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32. "double that now."
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14. "I'm torn. On one hand, I def agree don't leave your kids alone in a"
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car especially on a hot day, but as the article says the desperation of being homeless with dependents can make you have to choose between a rock and a hard place.

It's easy to say reschedule or look for another job, but if you're HOMELESS with your kids and this is possibly the first real lead you've had in a while, you're gonna try to show up. Employers don't care about your excuses. And neither do bills...or a roof over your head..,or food for your children to eat.

She made a bad decision, but I get it.

  

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15. "bullshit--"
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theres desperation then theres stupidity

this was stupidity

a 6month and 2 year old? in a car on a hot day??

thats just fucking stupid

no excuse for it

  

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18. "Lots of parents deal with this issue most of them don't endanger the kid..."
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I can't think of any reason where this would be excusable or okay or worthy of being rewarded.
If I left my son like that I don't think id be getting thousands of dollars for child neglect, there are options and that isn't one.
She shouldn't get a pass, not when it comes to kids.


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24. "im sayin--"
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it shows terrible judgement

those kids dont need to be with her

i really dont understand the sympathy money these idiots are giving this chick

  

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25. "for reals.."
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93. "Lots of homeless parents? "
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97. "Yes but we don't read about it because they choose to not leave the kid..."
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Unattended. Anywhere.
We hear the stories like this tho...
people who don't neglect their 6 month old babies don't get rewarded they don't get SHIT., we don't read about them, nobody cares until you fuck up.
I dealt with it, I lost jobs because I didn't have anyone to watch my sick baby, i was homeless. Lived in two shelters...nobody there that had children left their babies alone.
People that aren't homeless do this shit all the time too....it's not about her being homeless, she had fucking options, she choose the wrong one.
Her children were not starving,
They had a place to live
Cold car, hot car, comfortable car with a tv in it....don't leave your kids. Period.
A 6 month old, and a two year old...he'll the fuck no.
Her option was to keep looking for work, get up the next day and keep trying.
Y'all acting like this was an emergency and she living in a ditch with no food and dying of hunger and thirst


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98. "i think we don't hear about a lot of homeless parents that DO, as well."
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Remember, this story is only a story because someone called the police. I think that this happens more often than we'd like to think it does.

  

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100. "RE: i think we don't hear about a lot of homeless parents that DO, as we..."
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Yeah it does, and it's wrong no matter what the situation no passes.

Give some money to a family that makes good choices and is still struggling...where is that fundraiser?

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115. "make one "
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117. "RE: make one "
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Shit I need one.
We living day to day over here.

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19. "Agreed."
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I don't have kids so y'all can discount my opinion if you like.

But I can only try to imagine the thought process...knowing that it's dangerous as all hell and being scared to death. But then if she could just get thru this interview, get this little piece of a job and have her kids be alright, she would swear that they'd never be in danger again.

I can see how it's an absolutely terrible decision. But I can also see the desperation.

  

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20. "yep"
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23. "you dont have kids--"
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stop there

  

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57. "Yeah... I can see this too. "
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When you don't have a support system sometimes there really is no good choice. Just shitty choices and shittier choices.
1) Stay homeless and jobless and unable to provide for the kids.
2) Leave the kids in the car for 30 mins and hope they'll be ok to get a job to remedy point 1.

Both shitty choices.

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68. "And that's usually how it spirals"
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>When you don't have a support system sometimes there really
>is no good choice. Just shitty choices and shittier choices.
>1) Stay homeless and jobless and unable to provide for the
>kids.
>2) Leave the kids in the car for 30 mins and hope they'll be
>ok to get a job to remedy point 1.
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>Both shitty choices.

  

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132. "Yep"
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>
> I don't have kids so y'all can discount my opinion if you
>like.
>
> But I can only try to imagine the thought process...knowing
>that it's dangerous as all hell and being scared to death. But
>then if she could just get thru this interview, get this
>little piece of a job and have her kids be alright, she would
>swear that they'd never be in danger again.
>
> I can see how it's an absolutely terrible decision. But I
>can also see the desperation.

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31. "Real talk."
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>Employers don't care about your excuses. And neither do
>bills...or a roof over your head..,or food for your children
>to eat.
>
>She made a bad decision, but I get it.



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118. "if you got this few options though...getting that job aint helping"
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let's be honest...

if you in such dire straits that you can't find someone to watch your kids for 2 hours...what are you going to do when you get the job?

that job better be a daycare lol cause otherwise...they gonna be on their own til lunchbreak

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136. "hopefully with a job she'd be able to afford daycare or a sitter."
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and having no options for anyone to watch them on that day does not mean she NEVER has other options.

For all we know, her option backed out at the last minute.

  

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140. "I'm sayin'"
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>and having no options for anyone to watch them on that day
>does not mean she NEVER has other options.
>
>For all we know, her option backed out at the last minute.

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141. "Are you voicing the devil on her shoulder, my nig?"
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I guess that's valuable to the convo, but you forgot the quotation marks.

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17. "I think charity starts at home. This is a good illustration why. "
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I'd like to think that this woman made one bad decision during a very desperate time, but the truth is I don't know a damn thing about her other than what she did in this instance.

She could be an awful person. She could be a great person. If she were a neighbor I'd help her out. I'd like to think if she approached me on the street I would help her out.

But sending 25k to a person through the internet I dont know from adam just doesn't seem like a great idea to me.


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21. "it's not like one person sent $25k"
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That was the sum of small donations

but I agree that there is a better way to help her. Helping her find a job so that SHE can support herself is the best solution.

  

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26. "they were right to take her kids from her."
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she's unemployed, homeless, and she left them in a situation where they very well could've died.

i am sympathetic to her plight, however, right now she is not in the financial, emotional or mental condition to care for two babies. that's real.

i dunno who these people are who donated 25K to her, but i wouldn't be giving her any money. i hope she doesn't get significant jail time, but she needs a mental health evaluation and some social service help, not more money than she's likely ever seen in her life at once and may not know what to do with.

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142. "Kinda weird that people HOPE she doesn't get jail time, but opposed"
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to donating money for her to get a decent lawyer.
And alotta these are atheists who are against the idea of faith.


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27. "do the interview over skype "
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assuming the job contacted her via.....PHONE
even if she was homeless she could have skype'd the interview via phone or went to starbucks/library something
poor people have to start using technology to make their lives easier
really no excuse for leaving babies in cars at this point

  

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29. "Nah."
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30. "Interview with the woman who started the fundraiser (link)"
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http://www.azfamily.com/news/mobile/Online-fundraiser-set-up-for-mother-accused-of-leaving-kids-in-hot-car-252996231.html

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34. "so she's in touch with the the ladies mother AND the father of the"
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kids....okay....why doesn't the article explain where they were while all of this was going down?

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66. ""been in contact with the family & the father of the kids""
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so none of them were available to watch the kids.
yup, now I really disgusted. I don't know if the mom attempted to reach out to her family and the father of her kids to help her, but the fact that they are around now and none of them were around or available (who knows...) when she needed someone to watch the kids is a mess.

  

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33. "RE: OKP: Let's help Shanesha Taylor"
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You ppl NEVER cease to amaze me...

Lol

I was talking to a friend abt Relishes the other day & he said 'her mother needs to go to jail'. & I told him the story abt how during hurricane Katrina, when ppl w/ DL's & ID's that were NOT from LA, were allowed to get on busses to Houston, ppl judt startes randomly handing them their children & babies...

These ppl had no idea who they were giving their kids to or where they were going, they just knew they had to gtf out of that superdome.

Im blessed in that I have family & friends who wld & HAVE taken my child when I cld be of no service to her. im blessed in that ive always been able to take advantage of social services when ive needed to & ive been blessed that in the late 80's & early 90's when MY MAMA left me in the car to shop or pay a bill or WHATEVER she was doing cuz back then it really wasnt a big deal, in July in New Orleans, I didn't die. Lol

Wld I have done it? Absolutely not... but I also dont know what it feels like to be WITHOUT options...


Y'all the same niggas who feel like ppl on welfare shldnt have to take drug tests or answer to where they spend the g ovts money, but yall cant understand what it feels like to be WITHOUT OPTIONS???? LOL.

& IONT know what 25-50k gon do for her. She gon spend that in legal fees, so she gon be in the same position when she gets out...

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35. "That's the thing. Everyone's talking about how she shouldn't have left"
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Her kids in the car, etc.

no shit.

But no one is talking about the fact that she didn't have options.

No, we are not required to be adults for other adults. So, it's not incumbent upon is to provide those options for her (I.e. Money). But we can be compassionate and not vilify her.

Indeed, leaving her kids in a hot car was a bad choice, no doubt. But what were her real options? Skype the interview...come the fuck on.

And folx acting like taking her kids is better for them as if kids in the system are better off than kids with their parents. Lol. Have folx not seen how the system really works.

Folx are speaking in absolutes when this whole story is about the gray area.

I, too, was like fuck giving her money--give her a job. And I still say, help her get a job. But then I remembered that she's got legal fees now. That lil $50k will no doubt go largely toward that. So, if a few folx are so inclined to donate their lunch money for a greater good, good for them.

  

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38. "RE: That's the thing. Everyone's talking about how she shouldn't have le..."
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Not to change the conversation, but u said how the system deals with kids...
GIRL, ALL THREE OF THOSE LAWS DIRECTLY RELATED TO HELP KIDS FAILED...

BUT we can bring guns in church... (YAY)

My feelings were SO hurt for those children who died, & the autistic & the children who suffer from seizures...

Smh...

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39. "alllllll that shit failed. But we got guns in church now. We are becomin..."
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43. "Preach, sister."
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>Im blessed in that I have family & friends who wld & HAVE
>taken my child when I cld be of no service to her. im blessed
>in that ive always been able to take advantage of social
>services when ive needed to & ive been blessed that in the
>late 80's & early 90's when MY MAMA left me in the car to shop
>or pay a bill or WHATEVER she was doing cuz back then it
>really wasnt a big deal, in July in New Orleans, I didn't die.
> Lol
>
>Wld I have done it? Absolutely not... but I also dont know
>what it feels like to be WITHOUT options...
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>Y'all the same niggas who feel like ppl on welfare shldnt have
>to take drug tests or answer to where they spend the g ovts
>money, but yall cant understand what it feels like to be
>WITHOUT OPTIONS???? LOL.
>
>& IONT know what 25-50k gon do for her. She gon spend that in
>legal fees, so she gon be in the same position when she gets
>out...

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36. "She was extremely reckless and showed extremely poor "
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Judgment. If she had called half a dozen churches soneone would have watched her kids for a few hoursor given her a few dollars for Childcare. They are babies; people love babies and are extremely sympathetic to women with small children as evidenced by this 50k fund. She lacks common sense more than money.

  

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40. "RE: She was extremely reckless and showed extremely poor "
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Ppl are sympathetic to a CAUSE...

Let us not forget the woman who knocked on doors during Sandy while begging for help & was met w/ deaf ears while her children drowned...

Or the lady who was shot dead after asking for someone to call police because shed been in a car accident...

A church may have helped her. Thats true, but they may not have. When my mother was ill, the church we are MEMBERS of & active in tried to CHARGE us to have ppl sit w/ my mother so my aunt's & uncles cld have a weekend off... #shrug... & my mama was damn near comatose, so they'd LITERALLY just be sitting there... lol

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41. "by the time she found a church to babysit her kids or give her $$, the"
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interview would have been over.

Unfortunately, most of them do not work like that.

Most community churches do not have the financial resources to just hand out money like that, and for liability reasons can't just take in kids at a moments notice.

  

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44. "If nobody could help she could put her kids in foster care"
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Until she was able to get on her feet. A lot of women do it.

how was she going to work if she got the job anyway, by leaving the kids in the car?

Who was going to watch them?

  

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48. "oh my god!!!--"
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the interview would have been over

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49. "RIF, the suggestion was that she go to a church for $$ or to babysit."
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37. "not enough information to donate...these vague online sympathy cash"
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donation stories tend to unravel quickly to reveal the truth.
why is her mom and the father of the 2 kids in the picture now? where were they? why hasn't that been explained? Follow up on the place that she went to do the interview?

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50. "RE: not enough information to donate...these vague online sympathy cash"
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>why is her mom and the father of the 2 kids in the picture
>now? where were they? why hasn't that been explained? Follow
>up on the place that she went to do the interview?

this wont be answered, of course

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42. "Donated...the lack of empathy for the poor on this board"
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is shameful. When did y'all become judge and jury?

  

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45. "quite a leap to conclude a lack of empathy for the poor..."
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this is a thread asking for donations for a vague account where the only information we have is that she told the police she left the kids in her truck to go to a job interview.

if that's all you need, then ok.

but, i would need just a little bit more detail being that 2 children's lives were in danger.

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we understand you can easily come back and we're not impressed. how about getting a life first. okpdan

  

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46. "Right"
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>the lack of empathy for the poor on this board is shameful.
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51. "There are poor people in other countries who prostitute their children. "
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>is shameful. When did y'all become judge and jury?

I'm not saying leaving your kids in a hot car is the same as prostituting them. The root of the issue is still a poor family making an extreme decision that involves abusing their children, and the way you reduced this to hating poor people and removed ALL context is the sort of logic that would also excuse poor parents prostituting their children.

After all, they're poor, and hard choices have to be made, right?

They literally could have died in that car, and yet you still think this is about hating poor people.

They literally could have been kidnapped and on their way across a border before she got out of that interview, yet you think this is about hating poor people.

What's shameful is you pretending that this isn't a highly odd and complex situation and removing every ounce of context so that you can ride this high horse and pretend to have a higher moral compass.

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52. "Why do you always feel the need to write these essays"
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in all of your responses? I don't really care what you think. Donate or don't donate.

It's just funny to me that whenever there's a post like this on okp, people always seem to scramble for reasons for why they can't/won't help someone out, but they'll spend days having silly ass abstract debates surrounding the causes of poverty.

The fact is the kids didn't die. Now what? Should we continue to shame the mother on the internet? What if the money actually went to some counseling/mental health assistance? Or put food in those kids mouths? God...y'all are so ridiculous.

>>is shameful. When did y'all become judge and jury?
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>I'm not saying leaving your kids in a hot car is the same as
>prostituting them. The root of the issue is still a poor
>family making an extreme decision that involves abusing their
>children, and the way you reduced this to hating poor people
>and removed ALL context is the sort of logic that would also
>excuse poor parents prostituting their children.
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>After all, they're poor, and hard choices have to be made,
>right?
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>They literally could have died in that car, and yet you still
>think this is about hating poor people.
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>They literally could have been kidnapped and on their way
>across a border before she got out of that interview, yet you
>think this is about hating poor people.
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>What's shameful is you pretending that this isn't a highly odd
>and complex situation and removing every ounce of context so
>that you can ride this high horse and pretend to have a higher
>moral compass.
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54. "Becuase I don't hate the notion of people thoroughly articulating their ..."
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thoughts, that's why.

>in all of your responses?

If I'm going to make a point, I'm going to be thorough. I realize most of you are on this gen-y, twitter level of comminication where you don't want to read anything longer than 140 characters, but that's not my problem. Your problem is that you want to challenge other people on their perspective with your distortion of the facts, but you don't want *your* perceptions to be challenged.

If you don't like it, log off because that's how it works.

>I don't really care what you think.
>Donate or don't donate.

If you didn't care what people think, you wouldn't have went on that ridiculously loud and wrong rant.

>It's just funny to me that whenever there's a post like this
>on okp, people always seem to scramble for reasons for why
>they can't/won't help someone out, but they'll spend days
>having silly ass abstract debates surrounding the causes of
>poverty.
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>The fact is the kids didn't die. Now what? Should we continue
>to shame the mother on the internet? What if the money
>actually went to some counseling/mental health assistance? Or
>put food in those kids mouths? God...y'all are so ridiculous.

Interesting. You don't care what people think, yet here you are posting your reaction to what people think. More interesting that is how fast and loose you are with the facts. Basically, just want to shit on people and don't want the facts to get in the way of your soap boxing.

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59. "Either address my question about what we should do now"
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or be quiet. I don't care about anything else you said.

  

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61. "or you can just be quiet and stop contradicting yourself. "
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>or be quiet. I don't care about anything else you said.

Of course not, because you got taken to task for spouting off a bunch of factually incorrect bullshit.

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67. "So you have nothing like I thought"
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You're just a pitiful verbose idiot. Good Luck with that.

  

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70. "I'm not here to answer the questions of a simple minded, over opinionate..."
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Shrew who says she doesn't care to hear what people think yet comments on people'sthpughts and demands answers to questions she wouldn't ask if she didn't have an interest in what people think.

You can stop now.

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72. "you're so angry lol nm"
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77. "I literally responded to you the same way you responded to me"
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So yeah, you can miss me with that nonsense.

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63. "what should be done:--"
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she should lose her children temporarily

she should have to take parenting classes to get them back

she should take community college courses/join whatever program is neccessary to help her take care of her kids in the interim

WHAT SHOULDNT HAPPEN:
being monetarily rewarded for almost killing her children

  

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69. "ok"
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>she should lose her children temporarily
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>she should have to take parenting classes to get them back
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>she should take community college courses/join whatever
>program is neccessary to help her take care of her kids in the
>interim
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>WHAT SHOULDNT HAPPEN:
>being monetarily rewarded for almost killing her children

How long is temporarily? Once your kids are in foster care it can take quite awhile to get them back. How messed up will her kids be if they're possibly spilt up and put in the system? So she takes the parenting classes and the community college classes. This doesn't guarantee her a job that will enable her to take care of her children. I see the donation as setting an economic foundation for her and the kids future, not a reward. A good portion of that money will probably go to pay legal fees anyway.

  

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73. "and she'd already gone to community college"
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79. "temporarily is 3 to 6 months--"
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she almost killed them

the only compassion she should get is letting her get them back at all

no one is guaranteed a job

she wasnt when she left her children in the car

which is another reason why it was extremely stupid for her to do so

  

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55. "Amen!"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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53. "cause the only way to express empathy is to give money"
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gotcha


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58. "That's what the family needs!! lol nm"
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62. "You don't care what people think. Why are you responding to their though..."
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-Sig-

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64. "no they need a parent--"
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who can function as an adult and make the right decisions regarding their well being

what the fuck kind of sense does it make to almost kill your children so you can provide for them?!

  

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71. "Part of being a good parents is having the necessary"
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economic resources. But let's keep ignoring that.

  

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81. "sure--"
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but you dont kill your children/put them in danger to get those economic resources

  

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88. "You done jumped from endangered to almost killed to killed."
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In a minute you'll be saying the children's funerals are next week after dying
during their health examinations.

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76. "Call down and think rationally for a minute, fam."
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>they need parent
>who can function as an adult and make the right decisions
>regarding their well being


They have a parent who was trying to get to a place where that was possible.
Hell if we wanna get technical, being homeless at all isn't good for children.
Poverty isn't good for them. I applaud the woman for not giving up. Where
was they damn daddy while we dropping judgment on her?
You talkin' about being an adult... what kind of adult is comfortable letting
their children starve either?


>what the fuck kind of sense does it make to almost kill your
>children so you can provide for them?!


Then again, what the fuck kind of sense does it make to sit there and do nothing?
She tried the only thing she could, in her situation. It was bad, because she
was in a bad situation.
I know I'm not gonna change your mind, and you're not gonna change mine.
But you not finna be in here going in THIS damn hard on somebody so damn
down and out.
At least TRY to see both sides, my nig.

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83. "if you're a parent--"
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you NEVER willfully put your child in mortal danger

theres no 2 sides to that

  

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87. "Oh, so you'e saying fuck her for being homeless."
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Gotcha

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75. "How are you expressing it in this situation?"
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Not even saying you're wrong... but please list the other ways.

Thanks for your concern, SeV.


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131. "I shook my head and let out a deep sigh. "
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thx for asking.
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56. "The only thing more shameful than that is the lengths some people"
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will go to excuse, defend, support and reward poor decision-making and reckless behavior in the name of "compassion and empathy."

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65. "and its only cause just she's black--"
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if we're being honest

if this was a white chick from west virginia all this fake ass compassion would be right out the window

  

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74. "Yes I'm very concerned with the plight of Black people"
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why is that problematic? Why do we constantly have to bring these "if it was a yt person" statement into our discussions?

  

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80. "because then its not true compassion--"
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and empathy for poor people as you put it

  

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82. "Yeah it is...don't be dense man nm"
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84. "yeah definitely 'nm'--"
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cause i know you aint even gonna attempt to explain that dumb shit

  

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78. "Nigga jump clear off the planet with this bullshit."
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People in need are people in need. You know some people of any race needing
help that I can provide? Holla at me. I'm down.
Miss me with these silly hypothetical insults, dawg.

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85. "it aint an insult--"
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its the truth

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86. "You right. It's a flat out lie. Foh duke."
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133. "If it were a man who did this, would you still be angry?"
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I don't think so

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94. "That's about the size of it."
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47. "this post makes me hate people--"
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but as i always say to myself: "never underestimate stupidity"

leave your babies in the car alone on a hot day for a job interview.......$50,000

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60. "She had two bad options, and chose the worst one. "
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That's really what this boils down to.

Job interviews don't grow on trees and who knows when she might get another one.

Kids can die in hot cars, unattended children can get kidnapped, and at bare minimum, the police and social services are likely destinations for children left in cars

So, she was faced with the notion of not taking the job interview, or leaving her kids in a car.

I'm someone who has been one of those kids and perfectly understands how things can be when you have no options. This wasn't the parent who left her children who left her kids in the car at the casino while she gambled, like another recent story. She made the worst of two bad choices while trying to improve her situation. It's pretty much a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.

Still, it's absolutely appropriate for social services to be involved at this point. I think it's foolish to simply assume that she's a good parent who simply made a mistake just as I think it exhibits a gross lack of empathy to assume she's just an irresponsible mother. Who knows? What I do know is that this particular choice was easily the worst of her two bad options, and this is all unfortunate.

There's unfortunately no defense for that choice, either. An infant and a two year old? In Arizona of all places? This notion that because some folks have never been in a position of having "no options" they are wrong for condemning this choice is absurd.

She placed her kids in very real danger. Thankfully they came out of it unscathed, but it's foolish simply assume that this overall situation does not warrant a serious look into the details by social services, because she made the choice that you absolutely shouldn't make in that situation.

I've been that child of a parent without options, but I can already hear the responses that fact will get here on OKP if it doesn't jive with those in the "pro-donation!" camp. I'll also get flak for actually writing down my thoughts on the subject instead of stating a trite and far less nuanced opinion in two sentences.

The fact remains, she made the wrong decision and endangered the lives and well being of her children in the process. It's strange to me that the greater concern here does not seem to be the well being of the children in the care of a person who is in such a desolate situation, and that focus is instead centered on the person who put them in harms way.

Obviously the potential for them to go into foster care is equally a crap shoot and far from an ideal resolution. Hopefully there's a good relative somewhere that can take them. The prosecution should show a little humanity in this situation and keep her out of jail, so that she has a chance to get on her feet.

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89. "to all of you claiming the kids were in a "hot" car... just stop."
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If this would have happened in most other states, you'd have a valid concern.

But...

This happened in metro Phoenix. 80 degrees in metro Phoenix is like 60-65 degrees elsewhere. The kids were honestly in no danger of heat related issues. Trust me on this. Coming from Detroit, the first time I drove into AZ and the weather report up in Navajo country said it was 75 degrees I was confused 'cause it felt so damned cold. 75 in Tha D is nice, pleasant weather. 75 in Navajo country required a jacket and a hasty retreat back to the warmth of the car.

That still doesn't excuse leaving them in the car like that. I empathize with her though. She had nothing but shitty choices to make, and she's only trying to better her position in life in order to feed her children. At worst, she probably should have taken the kids in with her to the interview. I've seen women do just that and know at least two that have done it in the past.

  

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90. ""
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Dont be dense. It's considerably hotter inside a car.

Thats a 2 year old and an infant.

This shit would be somewhat excusable if the kids were, say, 8 and 10.

Still dumb as rocks but at least they could scream for help or run to dial 911 or go ask for water or SOMETHING in the event of an emergency.

Two babies? Nope. Sitting ducks.
Stop being dense.

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91. "i mean seriously."
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this post is just bizarro man. i don't see how people can cop pleas for leaving 2 babies inside a hot, locked car. "it's not that hot"? the fuck? really?

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99. "Because 80 degrees in PHX is barely warm"
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You can't approach this if you haven't lived here. I've been in metro Phoenix since 2003. I doubt you've even visited the area. You're using your own frame of reference on what 80 degrees is like but that simply doesn't fly out here. Even Cali folks can't even speak on it. Only people that have similar weather is New Mexico.

80 degrees outside is not HOT in PHX, it's barely even warm. You don't get warm/nice until you hit 90+. You ain't sweating in 80 degrees in PHX, you ain't sweating in 90 degrees in PHX.

Unless you've been here, you simply won't get it.

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102. "LOL I have family there and visit 3-4 times a year. "
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In fact, I'm going this coming weekend. In fact, I've posted about trips to AZ.

We can meet up if you want if you really need proof like that.

>80 degrees outside is not HOT in PHX, it's barely even warm.
>You don't get warm/nice until you hit 90+. You ain't sweating
>in 80 degrees in PHX, you ain't sweating in 90 degrees in
>PHX.

In.A.Car.

Youre talking about outside.

Im talking about in a car.

Theres a massive difference between the two.

Since you're determined to be dense, here are some facts for you:

an outside tempature of 90 degrees outside is about 110 degrees inside within ten minutes.

In fact, I'm going this coming weekend. In fact, I've posted about trips to AZ.

We can meet up if you want if you really need proof like that.

>80 degrees outside is not HOT in PHX, it's barely even warm.
>You don't get warm/nice until you hit 90+. You ain't sweating
>in 80 degrees in PHX, you ain't sweating in 90 degrees in
>PHX.

In.A.Car.

Youre talking about outside.

Im talking about in a car.

Theres a massive difference between the two.

Since you're determined to be dense, here are some facts for you:

an outside tempature of 90 degrees outside is about 110 degrees inside within ten minutes. Don't believe me?

http://www.weather.com/newscenter/specialtopics/slideshows/hotcar061909.html

http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/enforce/childrenandcars/pages/unattend-hotcars.htm

http://www.redrover.org/mydogiscool/how-hot-do-cars-get

You can sit here and talk about how you live in AZ and nobody but you lives there or has ever visited, but its all nonsense. Youre just factually wrong. Its not debatable or up for opinion. Youre just factually incorrect.

Youre talking about heat in subjective terms, not factual terms.
80 degrees is NOTHING to people in AZ!

No shit, youre used to generally hotter temperatures.

That doesnt change how much hotter the INSIDE OF A CAR gets, nor does it change the fact that were talking about an infant and a 2 year old left unattended. The fact that nothing happened to them is immaterial, as thats only because a decent human being saw them.
They could have been found by human traffickers. Since youre so familiar with AZ, thats a huge fucking problem there.and across the world.

They could have been kidnapped by some regular ol creeplife dude. That shit happens a lot too.

The fact that these things didnt happen is no more a defense than being a bad shot is if you shoot at someone and missed. All it means is they dodged a bullet, and mom, unfortunate though her situation may be, put them directly in danger.

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111. "bruh, look..."
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When me and the family made our first trip to AZ from Tha D my whole perspective changed.

75 degrees in Detroit = beautiful warm weather.
75 degrees in PHX = cool, jacket and pants weather.
75 degrees in Navajo country (north east AZ) = constantly checking the temperature 'cause you can't believe how fuckin cold it is.

As for meeting up, I'll take a raincheck. I'm in Vegas on business for the next few weeks.


The thing that neither of you seem to realize is that I, in no way, shape, or form endorse what she did. I'm not saying it was OK to leave her kids in the car, especially not so young. I'm saying that I see the term "hot" being thrown around this thread and 80 in PHX simply ain't hot.


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112. "Bruh, look, you keep ignoring the temperature IN THE CAR. "
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You keep ignoring the fact that a car basically becomes an oven and the heat can easily rise more than twenty degrees within minutes.

You can spit those anectdotes all you want, that doesn't detract from the actual facts.

you're talking like sitting in AZ in a hot car for 10 minutes is about the same tempature as a spring picnic in the park with a light breeze.

You're entire perspective on heat is at a relative level, not an actual one, and you KEEP IGNORING THE FACT- yes, fact, not opinion, not anectdote, but fact- that the tempature inside a car grows significantly greater than the tempature outside a car in a very short amount of time.

You keep offering your anectdotes while ignoring key details.

I keep providing facts that aren't debatable.

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101. "RE: to all of you claiming the kids were in a &quot;hot&quot; car... jus..."
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Doesn't matter the temp of the car, there was a 6 month old left alone with a 2 year old babysitter.


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109. "^ exactly. Lol"
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113. "Did I say that this was OK???"
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Please, by all means quote the part where I said it was OK to leave babies in a locked car.

I'll wait...

(tip: you can't find that part).

Y'all niggas are bigger fuckin idiots than I thought if you really think that I believe it's ok to leave kids in a car.

May/June 2004: Me and the family at Metrocenter Mall in central Phoenix. We're leaving and as we roll through the parking lot we spot a Cadillac parked with a boy inside. Temps were at least 110 degrees and this kid was sitting there in the car with no parents in sight.

I CALLED 911.

Not my wife.

Me.

We sat there until the cops came. Turns out the car was on and the AC was running, but even still this boy was maybe 6 or 7 years old and by himself in a running car the entire time we sat there. Anything could have happened had he got curious enough and started fucking with the shifter or whatnot.

So no, I don't believe it's OK to leave small kids in a car like that.


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114. "RE: Did I say that this was OK???"
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YOU BRINGING IT UP LIKE ITS RELEVANT.

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120. "please re-read and comprehend what I wrote"
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I commented on 80 degrees in AZ not being as "hot" as everybody thinks.

I also said, and I quote:

"That still doesn't excuse leaving them in the car like that. I empathize with her though. She had nothing but shitty choices to make, and she's only trying to better her position in life in order to feed her children. At worst, she probably should have taken the kids in with her to the interview. I've seen women do just that and know at least two that have done it in the past."

So either you have shitty comprehension skills or you're just being stupid for the sake of being on OKP.

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116. "u implied the actual temp mattered but continue cooking"
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on slow broil even lol

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119. "The only thing I implied was that PHX 80 degrees ain't hot"
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The rest of the shit is y'alls imagination.


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121. "True or false: the tempature IN a car is hotter than OUT of the car"
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Answer: TRUE.

80 outside is closer to 100 inside.

Notice how you've literally never addressed that?

Yeah

We did.

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122. "Want to know why?"
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>Answer: TRUE.
>
>80 outside is closer to 100 inside.
>
>Notice how you've literally never addressed that?
>
>Yeah
>
>We did.
>
>

Because with ambient temps approaching 100 degrees studies have shown that, in toddlers, the effect is heat stress and discomfort. Not life threatening at all (one study I'm referring to was done in Japan by subjecting infants and toddlers to a room with and ambient temp of 96 degrees, it was reference in another study I read a while back).

At worst case, after 30 minutes her car would have been about 95-98 degrees. However, there is one factor that hasn't been taken into account and that's tint; something that most people in metro PHX have on their windows. If her windows were tinted, this would have slowed the rate the ambient temp rises, meaning it wouldn't have been as hot in the car. Also not taken into account was the color of the car's interior or materials used in the car. Lighter colors and cloth materials keep a car cooler than dark colors and leather/vinyl (proven fact). Parking in the shade vs open space also affects the ambient temp of a car by several degrees.

That's why. There are entirely too many variables at play here.



As I said in my initial post: "That still doesn't excuse leaving them in the car like that."

I think that you and auset1 both missed that part.



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124. "Ambient, schmambient. Add wind and humidity factors to that. "
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Ambient temperature is but one element in the equation. The effects of ambient temperatures when youre in a room are not the same as ambient temperature when youre in a car, unless that room is exceedingly small, made of metal, and surrounded by windows.

Did that study also take into account how a toddler or infant reacts to heat when in a panicked, worried, or scared state? How well do you think a (potentially) screaming infant would handle that heat in comparison to a calm, sleeping one? What of a (potentially) worried, crying two year old? You dont think the physical stress of such emotions factor in, considering your body temperature rises in such states, causing you to sweat and thus release fluids? How's that for variables?

Any way you slice it, youre wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, just plain factually WRONG.

Far as you thinking it's not cool for her to do this, I didnt miss that part. Im not arguing whether you think its ok for her to do this.

Im arguing that youre underestimating the potential danger.
You made a very valid point: there are too many variables at play.
Your implication is that the heat is really not a big deal.
You cite a random study in Japan, but I put up a link to the weather channel showing how easily heat can magnify in a car. The danger of leaving children in cars is touted loudly and often, and with good reason: its dangerous.

While were talking variables, you introduced the possibility tinted windows. What if theres no tint, and the infant was squarely in the sun? That would be significantly greater danger due to constant exposure of direct sunlight through glass on relatively skin. If were talking variables, why do you not bring up the significantly more dangerous variables while assuming less dangerous ones?

I challenge you to sit in a hot car with the windows rolled up for 15 minutes, and put it all on camera. Im sure youll be just fine, but how comfortable do you think youll be? There would be a difference if, say, you were well hydrated going in. If you werent, the danger is greater, is it not?

In fact, Ill do this myself. I guarantee you the results will be different than if you did it, because people react to temperatures differently.

I cant handle heat well at all. Others I know handle heat just fine. I guarantee Id be soaked in sweat by the end of it. Ill do this in AZ this weekend, on camera, and show you the results. Its not like Im going to die, but it will be extremely uncomfortable and Ill sweat buckets.

What if that interview went for an hour? An hour and a half?
The argument here is that youre understating the potential danger to the children from the heat. I have not argued one time that you were ok with this decision, only your implications regarding the heat.

Since there are many variables at play, and we do not have sufficient details, as decent human beings our greater concern is the safety of the children in this situation and with the understanding of the variables at play, the overall potential danger far outweighs the potential safety of the situation.

If you really think 10-15 minutes in a car in 98 degree heat for two children under the age of two, I have to ask if youd make the same decision with your own children. If not, I ask why not? Whats the big deal? 98 degrees isnt all that hot, right? Its a cool summer breeze down in AZ! Right?

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92. "no"
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this post is really weird.

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95. "too little too late"
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those without options need more options...money won't really give her more options seeing as how she doesn't have a reasonable legal defense imho

she's got 2 infants and is homeless?

how long has she been homeless?

what job was this? would it have even been good enough to support someone so far in that hole?

if she got the job...then what? she gonna leave them in the car til lunch?

i mean...her decision was not just one about lack of options which is a serious problem for the poor and the homeless but this was just a bad decision...one that not only is illegal, it puts the people you are trying to care for in harms way

if you are THAT short on options...is working even a viable solution?

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96. "Anybody know how the interview went?"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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103. "i have a potentially stupid question about the donation site"
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there is a fraud alert posted there, not sure how long it will stay up but it claims that the organizer is a fraud and has no intention of giving the money to taylor...so my question is how can anyone donating on these pages know where the money is actually going? Is there some sort of check done by the site?

  

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104. "that's not a stupid question at all"
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105. "wow...."
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ATTEN EVERYONE: FRAUD ALERT! This money is not being use for Ms. Taylor at all and the girl page is catfish. Ms. Taylor was bailout last night at 1am and the girl running the donation page did not pay for it. Good hearted people in Arizona wanted to donate $5,000- $10,000 to the family, however, MissAmanda or this account could not provide proof they actually know the family.

They continue to say the "The Family" but they provide no proof of knowing the family and the family has never made one statement. According to other people in Arizona, Ms. Taylor family have no clue about this. These people have about 4-6 people working to together to scam you guys out of your money. If you don't believe me, go to the facebook page and tell the girl you want to 'directly donate to the family' or to Ms. Taylor, she's going to give you a fake 'P.O Box' and not give you any real proof she knows them.

A woman by the name of Kristin Mallory and her friend bailed Ms. Taylor out of jail not these people. Do not give to them they are a scamming big time and anytime they get called out about it, they block you. We have examine this page all week long and notice the girl keeps deleting comments made by the black community.

Why is that? What are they trying to keep from you guys. If anyone knows how to get in contact with the family so we can donate the $10,000 directly, please contact christianunityclothing@gmail.com I will be reporting this page a fraud right now. Spread the word please these people are not right....

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126. "LOLOLOLOL--"
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yo you're Avy is so appropriate

  

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108. "RE: wow...."
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Somebody is at the mall right now...balling.


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110. "i bet they brought their babies w/them too"
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>Somebody is at the mall right now...balling.

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127. "The girl has addressed this on her Facebook page.."
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https://www.facebook.com/MissManders#sthash.k8pxloh1.dpuf

We'll definitely see if this is all a fraud.
I do find it curious tho, that even tho this girl interviewed with local news and
MSNBC that you all are very quick to believe the very first accusation of fraud
WHILE you claim it's silly to believe the validity of the donation page.
You accusing people of running with a donation page, but you running with
the one negative comment despite having more proof that it's real than not.
That's quite hypocritical.


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129. "answering for myself....i didn't say it was silly...i said i need more"
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information. i forgot how this place likes to gloss over what is actually said and completely ignore facts.

i posted up the fraud claim that yishthat talked about because it's annoying to me when people mention something and don't link to it.

i don't see in the link you provided where she addressed that claim.

this chick raising the money could be a fraud or she could have the best intentions in the world...there is still not enough information for me.

>https://www.facebook.com/MissManders#sthash.k8pxloh1.dpuf
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>We'll definitely see if this is all a fraud.
>I do find it curious tho, that even tho this girl interviewed
>with local news and
>MSNBC that you all are very quick to believe the very first
>accusation of fraud
>WHILE you claim it's silly to believe the validity of the
>donation page.
>You accusing people of running with a donation page, but you
>running with
>the one negative comment despite having more proof that it's
>real than not.
>That's quite hypocritical.
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130. "It's currently the 3rd post down."
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>i don't see in the link you provided where she addressed that
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137. "she doesn't address it..she says she was accused of it....lol...lawd."
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139. "She also says she was asked not to release personal info..."
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by the family, and that they wanted to avoid media coverage of her release.
She also says in the comments, that the family was unaware how dire her
situation was.
Sounds like you stopped after reading the first 2 sentences tho.

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143. "you realize MANY people commit fraud and do the same thing?"
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they go on interviews, on tv shows, and steal ppl money and disappear like whoosh.

its' not common but it happens all the time. why are ppl coming out the woodwork accusing her of stealing if she didn't?

and she said the lady was freed but above, it mentions someone else freed her. she didn't say we used your money to get her free...she's very careful with her words now.

  

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144. "Please gimme some links to these stories."
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>they go on interviews, on tv shows, and steal ppl money and
>disappear like whoosh.


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145. "here you go..."
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http://www.oddee.com/item_98193.aspx

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2519575/Dayna-Morales-Lesbian-waitress-accused-anti-gay-note-hoax-finally-starts-refunding-gullible-wishers-gave-thousands-dollars.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/26/coworker-outed-woman-faked-sons-cancer/6909877/





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146. "I don't see where any of them did interviews BEFORE being exposed"
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but I get your point.

*edit*

self-correction:
Dayna Morales did an interview about the receipt but not to promote her fundraiser,
so she halfway applies.

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128. "Very valid question. Reply 127 tho."
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123. "RE: OKP: Let's help Shanesha Taylor"
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It is estimated Taylor's 6-month-old and 2-year-old sons were left inside the car for at least 30 minutes. The temperature outside was about 82 degrees and the temperature inside the car exceeded 100 degrees, according to court documents.

Let's give her a trophy too!!!!!!



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125. "B-B-B-But that's a cool spring breeze in Arizona! "
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It's really not that big a deal, because some people from Japan did a study that I can't link to at the moment that showed toddlers are just fine when ambient temperatures in a room hit 98, which is totally the same as two likely frightened and worried toddlers in a car made of metal and surrounded by windows.

No big deal at all.

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135. "I mean, shit....the babies already 98 degrees they damn selves"
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134. "I mean if she left them on the sun I could see people being upset"
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but if it was only 100 degrees, no biggie.

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138. "AZ takes their temperatures differently."
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100 degrees there is probably like 70 in DC. Speaking form experience (I have a 5 month old) the doctors say I shouldn't worry about his temperature until it is 100.4 degrees. If the car was just 100, I'm sure the kids were ok.

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147. "are you case_one?"
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148. "Me? LOL."
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My atheism is pretty well documented on these boards.

I just happen to be critical of any hypocritical actions, including those of other atheists.


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149. "Interview with MSNBC (link)"
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Amanda Bishop
http://www.msnbc.com/newsnation/watch/stranger-raises-funds-for-jailed-homeless-mom-213377091549

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150. "Amanda's interview with Fox Philly (link)"
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http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/25144812/77000-raised-for-a-mother-accused-of-leaving-her-children-in-a-locked-car

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151. "Shanesha commented on one of Amanda's FB posts (link)"
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https://www.facebook.com/MissManders/posts/10202311776729979



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152. "Amanda's interview on Tom Joyner (link)"
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http://listen.reachmediainc.com/files/040414JACQUEREIDANDAMANDABISHOP.mp3

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153. "Interview on ABC"
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http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news%2Flocal%2Fnew_jersey&id=9495989

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154. "And finally, for those who doubted Amanda Bishop's honesty"
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http://www.msnbc.com/newsnation/watch/mother-given-a-second-chance-to-make-it-right-312106563898

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155. "^"
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157. "glad that turned out well!"
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Go Smack yourself and then apologize to your hand for looking stupid - Case_One

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156. "was Edson ever convicted/sentenced tho??? (link)"
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i think i saw where he plead guilty but i never saw no sentencing anywhere

http://www.fbi.gov/phoenix/press-releases/2012/former-nutracea-ceo-indicted-for-securities-fraud

Former NutraCea CEO Indicted for Securities Fraud
U.S. Attorneys Office
April 16, 2012

PHOENIXBradley David Edson, 51, of Scottsdale, Arizona, was indicted by a federal grand jury on April 11, 2012, for one count of conspiracy to commit securities and wire fraud, one count of securities fraud, nine counts of wire fraud, five counts of false certification on periodic reports, four counts of false statements to auditors of a publicly traded company, and seven counts of transactional money laundering. Edson is to be arraigned on the charges on May 2, 2012 at 10:30 a.m. before U.S. Magistrate Judge Edward C. Voss.

  

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158. "Plead guilty in Sept 2013 but not sentenced yet?"
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Scottsdale CEO pleads to fraud

September 27, 2013

Bradley David Edson, 51, of Scottsdale, Ariz., pled guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit Honest Services Wire Fraud which is punishable by a maximum fine of $250,000 and a maximum prison term of five years, or both.

Edson was indicted by a federal grand jury on April 11, 2012, for one count of Conspiracy to Commit Securities and Wire Fraud, one count of Securities Fraud, nine counts of Wire Fraud, five counts of False Certification on Periodic Reports, four counts of False Statements to Auditors of a Publicly Traded Company, and seven counts of Transactional Money Laundering.

  

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159. "not sure how anyone can watch this CNN interview and walk away"
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thinking she's a bad mom.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/living/shanesha-taylor-plea-deal/

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165. "Why? Cause she speaks well? Cause she has a pleasant appearance?"
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160. "charges to be refiled. failed to set up trust find. judge wants ReCEIPTS"
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“Hot Car Mom”Shanesha Taylor(pictured), the Mother who lacked childcare last March so she left her children alone in her SUV while she went on a job interview, could be charged for missing a scheduled financial payment to a trust fund for her children, according to Crime Feed.

RELATED:Charges Dropped Against Mom Who Left Kids In Car For Interview

The Scottsdale, Ariz., mom, who claimed to be homeless when she was arrested and charged with child abuse, was cuffed for leaving her 6-month-old and 2-year-old children unattended in her vehicle with the window open just an inch and hot air blowing through the vents.

At the time, Taylor reportedly left her children for an hour, when a passer-by heard the children’s cries and summoned police.

The Taylor incident occurred on a day that was 82 degrees and police investigators surmised that the vehicle’s interior temp was 103 degrees by the time they were rescued.

When Taylor was taken in to custody, she recounted to police how she was homeless, jobless, and had no childcare. Taylor’s mugshot went viral, touching many like Amanda Bishop, a 24-year-old New Jersey resident, who so wanted to reach out to the Mom that she started an online fund-raising drive, hoping to raise $9,000 to post bail. Nearly $115,000 was donated by 4,053 people who also felt compelled to assist the mother in need.

In order for Taylor not to be prosecuted, she had to meet certain conditions, such as a court-ordered mandatory deposit of $60,000 that must be placed in to a trust fund for her children’s college and childcare expenses.

 Last July, Taylor agreed to the court mandate, but by last Monday, the young Mom failed to meet the trust fund mandate.

When asked by a judge to show bank statements to determine whether any big purchases were made, Taylor allegedly failed to give the justice truthful responses: Taylor initially told the judge that the money was in her mother’s account and then switched her story to state that she could produce proof that she was in possession of $35,000.

As far as work, Bishop claims Taylor received loads of job offers — via the online fund —  that she passed along to the Mom. Taylor is reportedly not providing any explanations for still not being employed but is reportedly blaming the media for her plight.

Prosecutors will now proceed with the child abuse case against Taylor and a trial date has been set for December 10th. If she is convicted on the two child abuse charges, in addition to having the felonies on her record, she faces up to 18 months in jail.



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161. "lol not surprised at all"
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People want to throw money at a problem hoping it solves shyt that goes deeper than monetary issues



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162. "some reports said she never even got the kids back smh"
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WTF SHANESHA



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163. "RE: charges to be refiled. failed to set up trust find. judge wants ReCE..."
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I still dont get the sympathy.
you dont leave your phone in the car..dont leave your kids.
I dont care what the reason is, a job interview isnt a reason.
yes i have a child
yes ive had to turn down opportunities for lack of a sitter when I was alone with an infant.
he is 13 now and I still dont leave him in the car.
she gets all this money and still didnt take any job offers.


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166. "You can't give a bad mother with no job $100K "
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and expect good things.

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172. ""You can't give a bad mother with no job $100K" <--- I mean................"
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>and expect good things.
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174. "RE: charges to be refiled. failed to set up trust find. judge wants ReCE..."
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I agree. I don't even leave my 2 year old in the car when she's asleep and I just have to pop in and out of somewhere. I will bundle her sleepy ass up and take her where I need to go. Yes, its a bit inconvenient, but if anything happened to her I would be beating myself up for the rest of my life.

I just don't get how she thought it was okay to do something like this. I understand its a job interview, but no sitter, no interview.

I admit I felt bad for her initially but this is some bullshit. She had people riding for her and she still fucked it up.

Sorry, I am so sweary...the election got me all fucked up.

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168. "Okp stay getting egg on their face man. "
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169. "we agree like a muhfucka here"
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171. "lol funniest part is seein em ghost afterwards"
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175. "ehh, not that much. any donation to red cross, panhandlers, church"
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millions 4 ice bucket challenge

u have no guarantee its getting spent any better than what happened here

alotta ppl were arguing whether the organizer was scamming
which she wasnt, no egg there either

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180. "You think this is the same as giving a check to Red Cross?"
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Here are the Red Crosses most recent Audited Financials

http://www.redcross.org/images/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m19544869_2012-Consolidated-Financial-Statements.pdf

Here is the audit report of the independent auditor who reviewed those financials

http://www.redcross.org/images/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m19544826_2012-USAAA-report.pdf


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187. "and it's always the SAME high & mighty "enlightened" ones too..."
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164. "No. Arizona-- Hell No"
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and anyone there should know that. I lived there for three years. Two things I learned-- The heat will kill your ass and folks need to gate and lock their damn pools.

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170. "she left a 6 month old with a 2 year old, and folks talking about"
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help her.

yeah she needs help alright...but not cash.

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173. "Who is PoppaGeorge's HS science teacher"
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They need their ass beat.

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185. "Seriously. "
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176. "so according to this article she spent some of the money on studio time"
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http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/civil-rights-leader-says-shanesha-taylor-spent-money-on-rap-album

Oh dear.

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177. "and was offered FREE child care to work any of these jobs."
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that she didnt bother to show up for the interview for.
now she has set up another fundraiser.

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178. "Why work when she could live off the gullibility, OOPS!"
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I mean generosity of others?

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190. "RE: Why work when she could live off the gullibility, OKPS!<----fixed it"
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>I mean generosity of others?


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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

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179. "lol she ain't shyt but I hope this ain't true"
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it sounds like some made up shyt


but with her decision making it seems absolutely plausible


but im banned tho.
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182. "RE: lol she ain't shyt but I hope this ain't true"
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the guy in the interview used to be her supporter..he sounds credible, the truth will come out in court tho.
she gotta bring some receipts!!


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184. "Engineer: "Yo son, drop that that heat son!""
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Shanesha: ".........."
Engineer: "my bad"

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181. "Hey what happened to the homeless dude with the beautiful voice?"
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I always wished they follow-up with him to see if he would turn out to be a boondoggle like this lady.


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183. "He actually surfaced in some video last week"
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it was weird because the vide wasn't even *about* him.... I think it was the video of Jennifer Lawrence getting jumped by fans and running away. Lo and behold, the Man With the Golden Voice just happened to be in the crowd of onlookers and they asked him a few questions.

EDIT: http://youtu.be/J_xPrYO65_I

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186. "fck you make me watch a whole minute of that b4 getting to the meat??"
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here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_xPrYO65_I#t=64

  

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188. "wonder why the court didnt appoint a conservatorship for her money"
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To help her allocate the court ordered funds appropriately.

Cant expect a broke homeless mom to automatically become fiscally responsible when she probably not used to have alot of anything.

Not surprised she went bananas with that money.

  

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191. "anyone regret donating?"
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i actually dont

folks are going to do what they are going to do
i like to think the best
was only $20 out of my pocket
but unfortunately for her yes i'm judging at this point and the pocketbook is being redirected to other causes
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192. "^^getting points on the back end"
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