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"I really think it matters what you name your child"


          

watching that FB car fight and seeing the names in the facebook feed....

c'mon.

I know people will say I'm coonin but it really doesn't help a child when you name them La'Kraysha

discuss.. or don't.

and for those who think it's acceptable, did you name you child something challenging or nah?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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me too, but I am not a parent
Jul 09th 2015
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it don't
Jul 09th 2015
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just fine for what? Reception work?
Jul 09th 2015
90
I've come around on this, mostly thanks to this board
Jul 09th 2015
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Mine have African names and Korean middle names
Jul 09th 2015
34
why does it matter tho? because of racism or because somehow their
Jul 09th 2015
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I found this article real interesting (link inside)
Jul 09th 2015
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      fuck Freakonomics though.
Jul 09th 2015
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           thanks for that link. hadn't seen that before. live science might be a b...
Jul 09th 2015
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           i'd definitely ignore all of that when naming my kid.
Jul 09th 2015
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                I hear you. Some of that is addressed in the live science article.
Jul 09th 2015
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           this kind of crushes me.
Jul 09th 2015
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You haven't made an argument on why it matters?
Jul 09th 2015
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Because numerous studies have shown that people white "black"
Jul 09th 2015
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      some of those studies were flawed.
Jul 09th 2015
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           I see your point. But are you going to use your kid to prove it?
Jul 09th 2015
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                i don't know this.
Jul 09th 2015
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                     ^ that.
Jul 09th 2015
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You're right. But its been nice knowing you.
Jul 09th 2015
7
Lucretia
Jul 09th 2015
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nice
Jul 09th 2015
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thats a very old greek or roman name i believe
Jul 09th 2015
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      Yep, Pope Alexander's (Borgia) daughter etc.
Jul 10th 2015
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Lol.
Jul 09th 2015
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who gon hire J'OnQuavious?
Jul 09th 2015
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the same people who hired Condoleeza?
Jul 09th 2015
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It always comes back to Condoleeza
Jul 09th 2015
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if J'OnQuavious got a PhD from Stanford then sure
Jul 09th 2015
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that and apparently anglo roots.Folks won't generally shit on that.
Jul 09th 2015
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if you are Black and know how to speak Russian you can do anything
Jul 09th 2015
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      ^ Truth. Your name certainly won't be getting in the way.
Jul 09th 2015
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      Hasn't helped me yet
Jul 09th 2015
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           HA
Jul 10th 2015
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If he's referred by someone with some credibility, anybody
Jul 10th 2015
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That's a defeatist/slave mentality to me.*edit*just look at reply #10 LO...
Jul 09th 2015
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#YouRight
Jul 09th 2015
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      Word
Jul 09th 2015
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RE: I really think it matters what you name your child
Jul 09th 2015
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white mans names are namier nm
Jul 09th 2015
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LOL
Jul 09th 2015
22
It's conceding defeat to white supremacy in one area.
Jul 09th 2015
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As long as we understand that the discrimination is white man's fault
Jul 09th 2015
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      fuck it, for the same reason i won't cross the street for white women.
Jul 09th 2015
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           Speaking of crossing the street for white women
Jul 09th 2015
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           WO!
Jul 09th 2015
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           Well in this case, isn't it the bigot's baggage as well?
Jul 09th 2015
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                Of course it's the biggot's fault
Jul 09th 2015
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                     I get that, but do you not consider it "leaving the door open"
Jul 09th 2015
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                          Crossing or not crossing, neither affects me in any way
Jul 09th 2015
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                               What about the name?
Jul 10th 2015
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                                    the name is definitely locking the door
Jul 10th 2015
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           Amber's and Krystal's have it rough too.
Jul 09th 2015
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it doesn't matter.
Jul 09th 2015
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no shit.
Jul 09th 2015
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hi, my name is aziza. i've never had any issues.
Jul 09th 2015
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i LOVE your name. its my favorite.
Jul 09th 2015
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Aziza apply at the TSA and get back to us
Jul 09th 2015
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dude 99% of the TSA at my cities airport is tongan
Jul 09th 2015
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theirs nothing "ghetto" about that name
Jul 09th 2015
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yea i'd imagine an indian woman with a Phd
Jul 09th 2015
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      pretty much
Jul 09th 2015
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but that sounds like an indian doctor or some shit
Jul 09th 2015
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My mom's gave me a white name for future jobs
Jul 09th 2015
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i have 2 last names and i'm 3rd generation
Jul 09th 2015
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yeah for me it is not a one-sided issue, and isn't just about race eithe...
Jul 09th 2015
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a white child named Oddly and a black child named Demonic
Jul 09th 2015
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I think it matters, but not for a different reason
Jul 09th 2015
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yep, this is pretty much what i was saying in #14
Jul 09th 2015
This fucking place man...
Jul 09th 2015
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arent you the guy who said he wouldnt bring a GF to the job
Jul 09th 2015
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      It wasn't braids. I think it was if she had a fucked up name.
Jul 09th 2015
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           eat the watermelon Annie-Mae!(c) co worker.
Jul 09th 2015
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Absolutely, and this issue matters to me right now w/ my son on the way.
Jul 09th 2015
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I've datedwhite girls in HR and The BIAS is TRUE!!!
Jul 09th 2015
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tell thm agn... the shit is real. theyve done expose pieces about it
Jul 09th 2015
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i've worked in HR myself and the bias is FALSE.
Jul 09th 2015
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      so all the studies and undercover stings that have been on 20/20
Jul 09th 2015
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      Studies and newsmagazine stories ARE infallible.
Jul 09th 2015
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           didnt say they were infallible, but they exist for a reason...is it wise
Jul 09th 2015
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                yup!
Jul 09th 2015
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                     not necessarily...the ppl who screen are often not the same ppl
Jul 09th 2015
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                          Oh okay.
Jul 09th 2015
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                          do u really think they would let u see something like that tho?
Jul 09th 2015
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                               yup.
Jul 09th 2015
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                                    They're hr. They can't do that with a black person (you) around
Jul 10th 2015
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                                         Oh okay.
Jul 10th 2015
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                                              when your black ass was around
Jul 10th 2015
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                                                   Sure but there were Black ppl w/'creative' names working there.
Jul 10th 2015
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                          Indeed. Getting in the door is half the battle.
Jul 10th 2015
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      Dude you are one person. I've dated many a HR Chick
Jul 10th 2015
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           i have been friends w/several HR employees
Jul 10th 2015
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Can't nobody ever say tokp's won't ride for black people no matter what.
Jul 09th 2015
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what the fuck is a typical okp?
Jul 09th 2015
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Typical okp's act like they don't know what I mean.
Jul 09th 2015
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      it's not an act.
Jul 09th 2015
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      Fuck, i laughed out loud at work
Jul 09th 2015
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      i know what you mean and i think it's bullshit.
Jul 09th 2015
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           You're Expert Level Typical Okp so of course you'd would.
Jul 09th 2015
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                *holds up mirror*
Jul 09th 2015
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Self-hating GrumpySmurf post #2912
Jul 09th 2015
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      Yall use Self hate as wild card now when you have nothing else to say.
Jul 09th 2015
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           you express shock that the rest of us don't hate us as much
Jul 09th 2015
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           Name your child De'Qaun then. Go'head
Jul 09th 2015
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                i certainly wouldn't avoid doing so b/c racists might not hire him.
Jul 09th 2015
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                     We're done here, you're right and Im wrong.
Jul 09th 2015
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                          ^ the real TOKPR
Jul 09th 2015
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                          LOL!
Jul 09th 2015
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           Tomato Tomatoe, nigga. Either way, you dont belong in a fruit salad
Jul 09th 2015
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Why are yall calling these name black names tho? I know plenty of
Jul 09th 2015
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Condoleeza on line 1. Barack on Line 2...can I connect the call?
Jul 09th 2015
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neither one of those are "hood" names
Jul 09th 2015
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it's all about perspective...
Jul 09th 2015
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Oprah on Line 3.
Jul 09th 2015
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You don't need a college education. Look at Bill Gates, Zuckerburg, etc
Jul 09th 2015
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this is a stupid argument...
Jul 09th 2015
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I totally agree. Your child doesn't need to have a Euro name, just don'...
Jul 09th 2015
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Soleil. Apple. A. Buzz. Captain. Fritz. River. Sunday. Tuesday. Pilot In...
Jul 09th 2015
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Soleil. Apple. A. Buzz. Fritz. River. Sunday. Tuesday. Pilot Inspektor
Jul 09th 2015
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lmao @ Pilot Inspektor
Jul 09th 2015
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Day of the week names mad African tho
Jul 09th 2015
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HELLO.
Jul 09th 2015
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It's not 'weird' names that carry a negative bias in our country...
Jul 09th 2015
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It's "weird" black names
Jul 09th 2015
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Finally someone gets it^^
Jul 09th 2015
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But what's to say Da'Quan won't be just accepted as Keisha in 2030?
Jul 09th 2015
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we got it a long time ago.
Jul 09th 2015
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and those names sound a hot mess anyway
Jul 10th 2015
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if they just don't like black ppl
Jul 10th 2015
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which is a good reason to say fuck it.
Jul 09th 2015
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Sho nuff.
Jul 09th 2015
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Name your kids Bobby-Sue and Bubba-Ray then.
Jul 10th 2015
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those names are clowned nonstop tho
Jul 09th 2015
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How many of those kids are set for life though?
Jul 09th 2015
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Just based on the numbers it's a bad idea unless it's legit African
Jul 09th 2015
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Who needs white supremacy
Jul 09th 2015
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just give your child a name they can be proud of later in life
Jul 09th 2015
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It matters if you're economically fragile and lower class
Jul 09th 2015
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very valid point.
Jul 09th 2015
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RE: It matters if you're economically fragile and lower class
Jul 09th 2015
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i didnt wanna say it lol.
Jul 09th 2015
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yeah, but the name isn't the problem there
Jul 10th 2015
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My lil cousin Marcus graduated from high school last month
Jul 09th 2015
118
I've noticed a lot of Mexicans giving their kids white names now
Jul 09th 2015
I've noticed a lot of Mexicans giving their kids white names now
Jul 09th 2015
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See, this seems more self-loathing to me
Jul 09th 2015
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but they are possibly looked at the same way when on job applications
Jul 09th 2015
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      it's LOLable.
Jul 09th 2015
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           because I had a complex growing up about being the white Mexican
Jul 09th 2015
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                not true.
Jul 09th 2015
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                     I dont know if his white skin would hold up
Jul 09th 2015
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                          Lol
Jul 10th 2015
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Really? Kinda the opposite up here in the bay
Jul 09th 2015
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maybe they're mixed race
Jul 10th 2015
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I think it REALLY matters how you RAISE your child
Jul 09th 2015
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Even if you gave your black ass child a white name.
Jul 09th 2015
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gonna name my next kid black fist.
Jul 09th 2015
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It does, but I don't think it's just about sounding "Black"
Jul 10th 2015
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As long as my white name is attached to this black skin you can
Jul 10th 2015
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Side-note: Do you "fuck appeasing the white man" people actually like
Jul 10th 2015
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no, i don't.
Jul 10th 2015
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why do you guys keep talking about the white man?
Jul 10th 2015
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      Reply 162, but even if you mean just by us...
Jul 10th 2015
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Just like any other name, it just depends on the name in question.
Jul 10th 2015
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i quit having an opinion on creative names.
Jul 10th 2015
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but you just gave an opinion on their names...
Jul 10th 2015
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      fair enough.
Jul 10th 2015
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           why do yall keep talking about white supremacist?
Jul 10th 2015
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           Well I mean.... when you say "it doesn't help a child"
Jul 10th 2015
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           since we are only 13% of the pop.
Jul 10th 2015
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           it's worth the effort to evaluate our thinking.
Jul 10th 2015
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           Same reason Chris and Gwyneth didn't ask about Apple.
Jul 10th 2015
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                feeling entitled is a part of being free.
Jul 10th 2015
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                certain things or everything?
Jul 10th 2015
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                     certain things.
Jul 10th 2015
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                          Should isn't is.
Jul 10th 2015
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                               we can make it so it is.
Jul 10th 2015
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                                    Is it right to weaponise an unborn child for this battle though?
Jul 10th 2015
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                                         we gotta act free in order to be free.
Jul 10th 2015
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                exactly...
Jul 10th 2015
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i gave my son an oldschool black name because it was my granddads
Jul 10th 2015
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Generally no...but I also don't like a lot of African, Arabic, and Engli...
Jul 10th 2015
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I don't know if it's so much the conspicuous ethnicity of the name
Jul 10th 2015
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LOL pretty much
Jul 10th 2015
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^^^^Everything you just said is spot on.1 of the best comparisons posted
Jul 10th 2015
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That being said, I don't think having a 'ghetto' name MAKES you
Jul 10th 2015
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      I don't think anybody said its gonna ensure it, but it doesn't help at a...
Jul 10th 2015
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           So what effect does it have on shaping a child's character?
Jul 10th 2015
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                honestly, i think you have to be a little crazy to spel a kids name like...
Jul 10th 2015
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                if you're the type of parent that would name their kid La'Kray-Sha....
Jul 10th 2015
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                So, in other words, it's not the name itself. nm
Jul 10th 2015
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                ^^ This is why white supremacy has to be mentioned in these
Jul 10th 2015
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                please chill.
Jul 10th 2015
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                You sound 14 yrs old, bruh.
Jul 10th 2015
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                     this is exactly NOT how to build
Jul 10th 2015
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                          Yet you leave this comment for me...
Jul 10th 2015
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                You really gotta tone this shit down to a 6 or 7.
Jul 10th 2015
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                     No, I don't.
Jul 10th 2015
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                why do I have explain this?
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                     you don't.
Jul 10th 2015
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Yes, exactly this.
Jul 10th 2015
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i'm willing to bet southern names aren't frowned on
Jul 10th 2015
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      I would assume the same
Jul 10th 2015
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      in corporate? i bet they are..
Jul 10th 2015
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           from what i understand *if* its a big issue they abbreviate it...
Jul 10th 2015
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                yup. They cut that name off with the quickness
Jul 10th 2015
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Job recruiters and people in HR do discriminate against you
Jul 10th 2015
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I'm gonna get in trouble for this but fuck it...
Jul 10th 2015
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      however many do.
Jul 10th 2015
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      How much of this is related to the name though?
Jul 10th 2015
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A Barack Obama is president tho
Jul 10th 2015
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Bara(c)k is a biblical name.
Jul 10th 2015
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and Blacks didnt fuck with him until we saw Michelle
Jul 10th 2015
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I think the bias is real but it's effect is surmountable
Jul 10th 2015
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There is so much shaming of poor Black people on this board...
Jul 10th 2015
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^^^
Jul 10th 2015
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What is an authentic African American name to you?
Jul 10th 2015
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A name created by Black people in America
Jul 10th 2015
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      Tamika and Keisha are great names, nobody here clowned those.
Jul 10th 2015
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           not NOW. They've become ingrained in the culture
Jul 10th 2015
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                no they're not
Jul 10th 2015
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                     I kinda agree with the second part
Jul 10th 2015
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so being black should make it impossible to be classist?
Jul 10th 2015
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Can you show us where she said that?
Jul 10th 2015
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Lol
Jul 10th 2015
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YUP.
Jul 10th 2015
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"Hello fellas...how is the water today?"
Jul 10th 2015
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thinking about how you are judged hurts at a certain point.
Jul 10th 2015
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      i hear you but that is not what im ultimately getting at
Jul 10th 2015
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           it's a waste of mental engergy to do this.
Jul 10th 2015
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meanwhile Jordan Davis and Michael Brown
Jul 10th 2015
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What's the FB car fight?
Jul 10th 2015
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google exactly what you typed in the subject line
Jul 10th 2015
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      Damn, that shit is some Grade-A foolishness right there
Jul 10th 2015
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i really don't see where it "helps", but name your kid what you want...
Jul 10th 2015
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You can go to Harvard named Lajarius Lavartabel Greene
Jul 10th 2015
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A lot of English names on this list of inmates
Jul 10th 2015
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oh wow.
Jul 10th 2015
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why CHRISTOPHER BRANDON COLEMAN trying to seduce me?
Jul 10th 2015
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      he can't help it
Jul 10th 2015
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LATIVIA NAKIA BYRD is the studliest stud of ALL TIME
Jul 10th 2015
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if people get my name wrong, i assume they're uncultured
Jul 10th 2015
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yeah so do native americans and day of
Jul 10th 2015
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SuiteLady
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1. "me too, but I am not a parent"
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2. "it don't"
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Thu Jul-09-15 12:34 PM by SooperEgo

          

names like La-A (pronounced La-Dasha) are just fine.

  

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90. "just fine for what? Reception work? "
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My question really being I'd imagine it would be a lot tougher for a La-Anything to make vertical progress in just about any workplace. I'm also not shitting on reception work, just saying that might be the cap when you carry that name or one's like it.

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3. "I've come around on this, mostly thanks to this board"
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and a couple of other sources. That said, I don't think "black names" speak to my heritage, mostly because they haven't been used widely in my family. I chose to give my children fairly Anglo first names and Korean middle names. (I have a very Anglo first name and Swahili middle name).

  

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34. "Mine have African names and Korean middle names"
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kev

  

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4. "why does it matter tho? because of racism or because somehow their"
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name makes them pre-disposed to acting a certain way?

i gave my kid a fairly normal name tho

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6. "I found this article real interesting (link inside) "
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http://freakonomics.com/2013/04/08/how-much-does-your-name-matter-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/

I also watched it on Netflix. Not sure if I agree with all of it BUT we all know that people have biases. We cannot take the bias out of people, we can sometimes duck and dodge it lol

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17. "fuck Freakonomics though."
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http://exiledonline.com/s-h-a-m-e-profile-freakonomics-author-steven-levitt-is-an-anti-labor-pro-prison-milton-friedman-extremist/

fuck you.

  

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25. "thanks for that link. hadn't seen that before. live science might be a b..."
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http://www.livescience.com/6569-good-bad-baby-names-long-lasting-effects.html

"other peoples expectations" and the biases that we all know exist are wrong.

Even though it is wrong, I wouldn't ignore it if I were a parent. That is just me though, and I am not a parent.

I will also add that my name is very common. Soo common that I could not go by just my first name until adulthood. I was always "my name" plus the first initial of my last because there were always so many other "my names" around. I hated that!

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27. "i'd definitely ignore all of that when naming my kid."
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more important IMO is the kid's experience getting through years of roll call in elementary and high school. i'd want to be sure i don't give them a name that would result in easy jokes made at their expense.

fuck you.

  

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28. "I hear you. Some of that is addressed in the live science article."
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60. "this kind of crushes me. "
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because im a fan of what they do.

now I gotta turn that off.

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5. "You haven't made an argument on why it matters? "
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And what's wrong wit La'Kreysha, or whatever name you pulled out the hat?

  

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19. "Because numerous studies have shown that people white "black""
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sounding names have a less chance is getting called back for a job than "white" sounding names that also have a felony on their record.

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21. "some of those studies were flawed."
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but even if they're true...we can't lay down to racist assholes by declining to name our children as we see fit b/c racists are going to use the name against them.

fuck you.

  

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31. "I see your point. But are you going to use your kid to prove it?"
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You know beforehand the kid is likely to have a more difficult time in life with a certain name (I know you don't quite believe the research in this area, but for the sake of argument just accept that it is correct).

Are you going to put his/her future on the line so that you can stand up to the assholes today?

>but even if they're true...we can't lay down to racist
>assholes by declining to name our children as we see fit b/c
>racists are going to use the name against them.
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33. "i don't know this."
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>You know beforehand the kid is likely to have a more
>difficult time in life with a certain name.

i don't know this as related to this discussion. my main concern as related to this topic is avoiding a name that'll cause problems when my kid's name is called during 6th grade roll call.

>Are you going to put his/her future on the line so that you
>can stand up to the assholes today?

yup. i am. if i want to name my kid ___ i'm not going to avoid doing it b/c racists might react badly to the name. fuck racists. if anything i'd be sure the kid is aware there are racist assholes out there who will try and diss him b/c of his name. but i'm not going to change his name b/c of them. that's terrorism.

fuck you.

  

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36. "^ that."
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7. "You're right. But its been nice knowing you."
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8. "Lucretia"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucretia_Mott

  

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29. "nice"
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66. "thats a very old greek or roman name i believe"
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137. "Yep, Pope Alexander's (Borgia) daughter etc."
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Lucretia/Lucrezia is a pretty traditional aspirational Latin name from the same root as "Lucrative".

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9. "Lol."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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10. "who gon hire J'OnQuavious?"
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Actor?
Rapper?
Basketball Player?
Drug Dealer?

So, Jon you went from semi-pro ballplayer to rapper-turned-actor; but, tell us about the years you spent 'trappin out the bando'
(͡°͜ʖ͡°)



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11. "the same people who hired Condoleeza?"
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12. "It always comes back to Condoleeza"
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20. "if J'OnQuavious got a PhD from Stanford then sure"
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also Condoleeza is one of those black southern country names, white folks don't generally have the same level of prejudice against those.

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92. "that and apparently anglo roots.Folks won't generally shit on that. "
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The name Condoleeza was supposedly coined from the Italian musical term "Con dolcezza" meaning "with sweetness."

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50. "if you are Black and know how to speak Russian you can do anything"
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93. "^ Truth. Your name certainly won't be getting in the way."
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But maybe your vodka habit will.

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98. "Hasn't helped me yet"
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158. "HA"
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193. "If he's referred by someone with some credibility, anybody"
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He might not get chosen out of a pool of 30 on Monster but if a solid member of the company says "My friend Jon Q has alot of experience with that system. You should give him a call", HR might raise an eyebrow as they try to type his name into the payroll system, but they'll get over it.

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13. "That's a defeatist/slave mentality to me.*edit*just look at reply #10 LO..."
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As in:

"If you don't have no english name, massa ain't gon hire ya!"

Name them the wildest, most Blackety Blackest ghetto name you can come up with,
and then teach them to be enterprising. Hell start a business they can inherit.
We need successful Black folks named Taquandiniqua and Dequantavius.

If all the successful and responsible Black folks have a "white" name, then hell we're
helping perpetuate this myth that that part of our culture is negative. It's just a name,
and I'll be goddamned if I CONDONE you discriminated against me based on it.

We cannot allow ourselves to be defeated in these kinds of ways.

Same goes for dredlocks and afros... even tho that's kind of another issue.
Same basic concept concerning defeatism tho (be more like white folks and they will love you
and let you get ahead). Fuck that, we's free now! They should not still be being
beat into submission. We have the ability to set the terms of our acceptance in some ways.

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121. "#YouRight"
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*looks at Facebook again*


I thought one of y'all would at LEAST try to bring up Quvenzhane Wallis but #Noap.

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134. "Word"
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14. "RE: I really think it matters what you name your child"
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i do too. names have meaning and to me that's important.

for example, when my wife was pregnant with my son we considered the name Jacob. looked up the meaning and it means "supplanter, underminer, heel catcher" as far as the Biblical meaning anyways. well, we decided that isn't what we wanted as a name to represent our son. and no offense to anyone named Jacob, just using that as an example. i say all that to say it goes beyond even just being creative with spellings etc. to me. names have meaning and, in my opinion, that should be taken into consideration.

  

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15. "white mans names are namier nm"
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22. "LOL"
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16. "It's conceding defeat to white supremacy in one area."
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which does have real consequences for people's lives.
Should you be able to name your kid whatever the fuck you want and have it not affect their outcomes in life? Absolutely.
White supremacy doesn't allow for that though.

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23. "As long as we understand that the discrimination is white man's fault"
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If someone steals your car radio (people do still steal car radios. How you think I got this coat?) because you left it unlocked, it's not YOUR fault. That said, I understand why people lock their cars. Now a real committed theif isn't going to care if your car is locked or not, he's going to steal your shit. And a real racist isn't going to hire your black ass if your name is Warren Worthington III, but I understand why some people would want to make thieves and bigots work a little.

  

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32. "fuck it, for the same reason i won't cross the street for white women."
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if white ppl can make up whatever names they want for their kids, we can to.

white parents name their kids what they want.

i will to, if i have them.

  

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35. "Speaking of crossing the street for white women"
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At a previous job, I had a fellow department head tell our president that I scared her and made her cry when I got mad at her. Our president, also a white woman, said that she was sure that I'd behaved professionally, but I could be threatening just by virtue of being me.


You mufuckas seen my instagram. I'm the least threatening dude alive. So yeah, I ain't crossing the street for white women. That's their baggage, not mine.

  

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39. "WO!"
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> I could be threatening just by virtue of being me.

  

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47. "Well in this case, isn't it the bigot's baggage as well?"
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>yeah, I ain't crossing the street for white women. That's their baggage, not mine.
>


The bigot you mention in reply 23. That bigot could not hire you.
That white female bigot could get you jailed or whatever.
What's the difference?


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52. "Of course it's the biggot's fault"
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just like it's thief's fault, even if you left the door open.

  

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131. "I get that, but do you not consider it "leaving the door open""
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to not cross the street for white women?

I'm asking what the difference is in "leaving the door" open in that instance
as opposed to "leaving the door open" with your name.

It seems that you're saying it's best to concede to bigots in one instance but not the other.
Maybe I'm understanding you wrong, and you're saying that you never concede to bigotry, at all.


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135. "Crossing or not crossing, neither affects me in any way"
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The lock might help me. Crossing won't.

  

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147. "What about the name?"
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Is that akin to crossing the street or locking the door?

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165. "the name is definitely locking the door"
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96. "Amber's and Krystal's have it rough too."
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18. "it doesn't matter."
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fuck you.

  

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24. "no shit."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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26. "hi, my name is aziza. i've never had any issues."
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now go runtelldat, ho.

  

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30. "i LOVE your name. its my favorite."
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you're so lucky.

  

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44. "Aziza apply at the TSA and get back to us"
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Because that sounds Muslim and you know the rest.

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46. "dude 99% of the TSA at my cities airport is tongan"
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they got all kinds of wild names


it aint that serious

  

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49. "theirs nothing "ghetto" about that name"
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61. "yea i'd imagine an indian woman with a Phd"
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65. "pretty much"
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73. "but that sounds like an indian doctor or some shit"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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37. "My mom's gave me a white name for future jobs"
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and it is always shocking when they call me by my name in a room full of people and the only black dude there stands up. Growing up though, I hated it since I had issues with most of the black people because they thought I wasn't "black" enough so I always had beef and had to prove shit

we keep it moving,

  

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45. "i have 2 last names and i'm 3rd generation"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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62. "yeah for me it is not a one-sided issue, and isn't just about race eithe..."
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gender (boys named commonly girl names) and spelling (Harrmman vs Harman; Allison vs Alyson) can be and cause headaches too. So I personally would think of all of that while choosing my child first name. Can't do nothing about the last name but ...

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38. "a white child named Oddly and a black child named Demonic"
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I know them both, and I know their parents.

Both names make my teeth sweat.


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40. "I think it matters, but not for a different reason"
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I like the idea of giving a kid a name with meaning. I think it's cool to let a kid know what that means. So, they can grow up with pride in it. It could be from any language, as long as it has a solid meaning that my child can aspire to live up to. I'm not the least bit concerned about what racist would think, since I would teach my child that the meaning of his/her name is something that they can and should be proud of.

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"yep, this is pretty much what i was saying in #14"


  

          

  

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41. "This fucking place man..."
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Streets won't let me chill.

  

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48. "arent you the guy who said he wouldnt bring a GF to the job "
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if she had braids or some weird shit like that?

maybe not, but I'm pretty sure it was you

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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53. " It wasn't braids. I think it was if she had a fucked up name."
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And I stand by it. That's how I'm living. All this hootin and hollerin and fake ass black power shit people shout in here. People kill me. Kids gonna be broker than a broke dick dog.

Streets won't let me chill.

  

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57. "eat the watermelon Annie-Mae!(c) co worker."
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>And I stand by it. That's how I'm living. All this hootin and
>hollerin and fake ass black power shit people shout in here.
>People kill me. Kids gonna be broker than a broke dick dog.

  

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42. "Absolutely, and this issue matters to me right now w/ my son on the way."
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He'll be here in 2 months and my wife and I wanted a somewhat unique name that would still make him employable.

According to the Social Security Administration, only 723 boys were born in 2014 having the name we chose...so, relatively uncommon.

P.S. - expecting parents, i bet you didn't know the best place to find baby names is the SSA.

  

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43. "I've datedwhite girls in HR and The BIAS is TRUE!!!"
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Those ethinic sounding name resumes go straight to the trash bin in many companies. Unless, they are specifically looking for Non whites to fulfill their Affirmative action quota.

Ironically, I began my career in the mid 1990s when Affirmative Action hiring was at a all time high. I am pretty sure I got a lot of my Interviews in IT because I was black and Have a name that can be female as well. Which is ideal for affirmative action quotas(Minority and female)I ain't complaining about it back then but if it were now, who knows.

All 4 of my kids have neutral American Names.
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54. "tell thm agn... the shit is real. theyve done expose pieces about it"
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with hidden cams and the whole 9...it matters. now, if u dont give a shit about that kinda stuff then rock out witcha cock out

  

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64. "i've worked in HR myself and the bias is FALSE."
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i didn't routinely discard resumes that featured ethnic-sounding names and my coworkers didn't either. we worked at a major professional services firm. you've heard of it.

fuck you.

  

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103. "so all the studies and undercover stings that have been on 20/20"
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etc are completely invalid? maybe it just didnt hapn at your spot, which is a good thg...but that doesnt mean it never happens

  

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106. "Studies and newsmagazine stories ARE infallible."
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So there's that.

fuck you.

  

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109. "didnt say they were infallible, but they exist for a reason...is it wise"
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to discredit them completely just because of your own experience?

  

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110. "yup!"
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No more than I'd credit them based on Crisco's jump-off's experience.

And even if the stories are true - if racists will toss L'Terique's resume based on his name they'd toss Ward's resume after he appears for an interview. Bc, you know, his FACE is Black.

fuck you.

  

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114. "not necessarily...the ppl who screen are often not the same ppl "
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who do the interviewing, plus, after a face to face interaction someone who may have been on the fence might be swayed. lots of factors to speculate on.

  

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117. "Oh okay."
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I worked in HR. I didn't engage in the practice or see my coworkers do it.

fuck you.

  

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122. "do u really think they would let u see something like that tho?"
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ppl have been known to do slick shit sometimes.

  

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124. "yup."
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it wasn't happening. we routinely discarded resumes for various reasons - the name being 'too-ethnic' was not one of them.

fuck you.

  

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139. "They're hr. They can't do that with a black person (you) around "
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142. "Oh okay."
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It didn't happen @ that company.

fuck you.

  

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144. "when your black ass was around"
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>It didn't happen @ that company.

that's all you can confidently say.

  

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203. "Sure but there were Black ppl w/'creative' names working there."
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So I'm pretty confident in what I'm saying. Plus, you know, I was there and you weren't.

fuck you.

  

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217. "Indeed. Getting in the door is half the battle. "
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>who do the interviewing, plus, after a face to face
>interaction someone who may have been on the fence might be
>swayed. lots of factors to speculate on.

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216. "Dude you are one person. I've dated many a HR Chick"
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Plus you are black of course you aint discarding tethnic resumes.

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220. "i have been friends w/several HR employees"
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none of them have told me this practice occurs in their office.

fuck you.

  

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51. "Can't nobody ever say tokp's won't ride for black people no matter what."
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I actually respect the dedication.

  

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55. "what the fuck is a typical okp?"
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we don't agree about anything.
look in this post.

disagreement.

you're probably getting ready to disagree with this reply I just wrote.

what's typical?

  

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56. "Typical okp's act like they don't know what I mean."
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58. "it's not an act."
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i've argued with too many ppl here to think there is general consensus on anything.

look at me now.
I am arguing with you, an okp.

  

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59. "Fuck, i laughed out loud at work"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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63. "i know what you mean and i think it's bullshit."
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how typical is that?

fuck you.

  

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68. "You're Expert Level Typical Okp so of course you'd would."
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69. "*holds up mirror*"
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b/c i'd say the typical OKP comes here knowing that a good # of ppl who post here hold alt-opinions but still clutches-the-pearls when OKPs express alt-opinions. it's fairly mind-numbingly stupid of you ppl and you do it everyday.

i said all that to say: the typical OKP is a social conservative who expresses disdain and disapproval when a handful of OKPs express quasi-radical opinions ('quasi' b/c they're not actually radical).

fuck you.

  

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67. "Self-hating GrumpySmurf post #2912"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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70. "Yall use Self hate as wild card now when you have nothing else to say. "
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71. "you express shock that the rest of us don't hate us as much"
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as you hate you for being one of us.

fuck you.

  

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74. "Name your child De'Qaun then. Go'head"
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75. "i certainly wouldn't avoid doing so b/c racists might not hire him."
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he could be named Ward Cleaver and racists still might not hire him. so then what?

fuck you.

  

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80. "We're done here, you're right and Im wrong."
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81. "^ the real TOKPR"
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i laffed tho

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94. "LOL!"
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fuck you.

  

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120. "Tomato Tomatoe, nigga. Either way, you dont belong in a fruit salad"
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You're a vegetableeee

You're a vegetableeee

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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72. "Why are yall calling these name black names tho? I know plenty of "
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Tremane's, Marcus, Derrick's, Terrence's, Dewayne's ect that have no problems getting jobs, succeeding ect.
Its the "ghetto" ass names that send off the red flag.

  

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76. "Condoleeza on line 1. Barack on Line 2...can I connect the call? "
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79. "neither one of those are "hood" names"
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85. "it's all about perspective..."
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Barack is an african name & can be interpreted as being ghetto

  

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84. "Oprah on Line 3."
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91. "You don't need a college education. Look at Bill Gates, Zuckerburg, etc"
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I.e. listing random exceptions doesn't help your case

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77. "this is a stupid argument..."
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my name is Arabic & can be misconstrued as being black or ghetto.

Not to mention a person can mispronounce a name like Leonard and flip it all kinda ways.

  

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78. "I totally agree. Your child doesn't need to have a Euro name, just don'..."
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>watching that FB car fight and seeing the names in the
>facebook feed....
>
>c'mon.
>
>I know people will say I'm coonin but it really doesn't help a
>child when you name them La'Kraysha
>
>discuss.. or don't.
>
>and for those who think it's acceptable, did you name you
>child something challenging or nah?

them a name that you made up.

  

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82. "Soleil. Apple. A. Buzz. Captain. Fritz. River. Sunday. Tuesday. Pilot In..."
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#whitepeoplenames

  

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83. "Soleil. Apple. A. Buzz. Fritz. River. Sunday. Tuesday. Pilot Inspektor"
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#whitepeoplenames

  

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86. "lmao @ Pilot Inspektor"
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95. "Day of the week names mad African tho"
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97. "HELLO."
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fuck you.

  

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99. "It's not 'weird' names that carry a negative bias in our country..."
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It's 'black' names

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100. "It's "weird" black names"
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Euro-based "black" names like Andre, Terrell and Jermaine don't carry a stigma

African names don't carry a stigma

Old-school "Af-Am" names like Keisha and Latoya no longer have a stigma either

  

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101. "Finally someone gets it^^"
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104. "But what's to say Da'Quan won't be just accepted as Keisha in 2030?"
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105. "we got it a long time ago."
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how much energy do racists spend trying to make us comfortable?

oh yeah.

none.

well why should we second guess what we name our babies?

all this second guessing is exhausting.

i quit.

it doesn't help, anyway.
it just slows us down.

  

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150. "and those names sound a hot mess anyway"
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159. "if they just don't like black ppl"
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>Euro-based "black" names like Andre, Terrell and Jermaine
>don't carry a stigma
>
>African names don't carry a stigma
>
>Old-school "Af-Am" names like Keisha and Latoya no longer have
>a stigma either

i thnk that's enough. for a lot of white people we're all the same. so i gotta disagree.

  

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102. "which is a good reason to say fuck it."
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negros in hoodies scare racists, too.

I am still wearing mine.

fuck them.

  

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107. "Sho nuff."
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fuck you.

  

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169. "Name your kids Bobby-Sue and Bubba-Ray then."
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>It's 'black' names

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119. "those names are clowned nonstop tho"
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130. "How many of those kids are set for life though?"
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87. "Just based on the numbers it's a bad idea unless it's legit African"
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Or whichever non western culture. I think the name having meaning is what's important not so much how it reads.

Children need all the one ups they can get-- so if that means names that can help open doors then fine by me.

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88. "Who needs white supremacy"
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when we have Black people to police other Black people

I have a Black name, I'm proud of it - I feel it gives a lot of individualism. Guess everybody doesn't see it that way.

Eurocentric names >>>> anything Black?

  

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89. "just give your child a name they can be proud of later in life"
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there's a lot of weird white names out there too...give you kid a name they can grow up with and hold in high regard as an adult...spare them some of the teasing and jokes that come with certain names...apart from that, do what you do.

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108. "It matters if you're economically fragile and lower class"
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and looking to get into a boring ass middle class profession with boring ass not very bright middle class people - basically do office drone work. shifting classes is difficult and you need all the hlep you can get.

if you're middle to upper class and bright and have bright children and someone who can send them to private schools and put them on the path to own their own businesses or be part of the creative or artisan class or intellectual class (they create code or are a research scientist or actually contribute something of value to society) it really doesn't matter becaue their peers are going to be esme, artemis, apple and pilot.

if you have a trust fund or millionsi n the bank then you really don't need to worry. it's all a matter of how fragile you are. someone like condoleeza grew up middle class black and so it was really irrelevant and her parents knew this. they aren't really fragile. She might be an only child too if i remember right. The super rich will smith's and thems kids are super antifragile*. they really have nothing to wrry about so it REALLY doesn't matter.


(* antifragile --> http://www.google.com/search?q=antifragile for those not up to speed)

  

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111. "very valid point. "
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113. "RE: It matters if you're economically fragile and lower class"
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>and looking to get into a boring ass middle class profession
>with boring ass not very bright middle class people -
>basically do office drone work. shifting classes is difficult
>and you need all the hlep you can get.

Unfortunately, these are the parents most likely to name their kid Q'Doba.

>if you're middle to upper class and bright and have bright
>children and someone who can send them to private schools and
>put them on the path to own their own businesses or be part of
>the creative or artisan class or intellectual class (they
>create code or are a research scientist or actually contribute
>something of value to society) it really doesn't matter becaue
>their peers are going to be esme, artemis, apple and pilot.

Maybe in the creative fields. In the "intellectual class" as you put it, they'll be competing with a whole lot of Asian/Indian names

>if you have a trust fund or millionsi n the bank then you
>really don't need to worry. it's all a matter of how fragile
>you are. someone like condoleeza grew up middle class black
>and so it was really irrelevant and her parents knew this.
>they aren't really fragile. She might be an only child too if
>i remember right. The super rich will smith's and thems kids
>are super antifragile*. they really have nothing to wrry about
>so it REALLY doesn't matter.

You right, but Black folk as a whole are fragile as fuck.

  

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115. "i didnt wanna say it lol."
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>Unfortunately, these are the parents most likely to name their
>kid Q'Doba.
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149. "yeah, but the name isn't the problem there"
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black males have a 59% high school graduation rate. in nyc schools where the largest number of black males are educated it's around 25%. detroit is a bit lower.

we really focus on the wrong stuff.

if you're making sure there's food on his table, he's educated and well supervised Dayshawn is probably going to be just fine.

oh and white upper class people stay naming their kid all kinds of silly stuff like rand, tripp, tagg, piper (oitnb) especially the intellectuals, so it really doesn't matter if your kid is going to enter the intellectual class. berkley is probably the world center of weird ass names.

  

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118. "My lil cousin Marcus graduated from high school last month"
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and his class was mostly Black. Most of the names were not white-sounding and I LOVED IT. The most popular girl name was Aaliyah and I cracked up at that shit.

Lamontavius will be fine as will Aaliyah. And if they aren't it won't be bc they weren't named John or Jane.

fuck you.

  

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"I've noticed a lot of Mexicans giving their kids white names now"


  

          

my sons school was 80% latino. He would come home and talk about his friends Kevin, Brendan, Aiden, and Joshua. Then I would go pick him up from school I would see this dark ass Mexican kid speaking spanish to his mom turn to us and say bye Emiliano. Then he would say by Brendan. I was like WTF! Kevin, Aiden, and Joshua were all bilingual. He was actually one of the only kids in his class with a more "ethnic" sounding name. But he looks white. When I was growing up Mexican's had Mexican names. Lots of Jose's, Manuel's, Estevan's, Alberto's, etc. It was only one class of 25 kids. But out of that class there were 20 kids who were latino and to only have 2 or 3 of those kids with traditional names has to say something.

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112. "I've noticed a lot of Mexicans giving their kids white names now"
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my sons school was 80% latino. He would come home and talk about his friends Kevin, Brendan, Aiden, and Joshua. Then I would go pick him up from school I would see this dark ass Mexican kid speaking spanish to his mom turn to us and say bye Emiliano. Then he would say by Brendan. I was like WTF! Kevin, Aiden, and Joshua were all bilingual. He was actually one of the only kids in his class with a more "ethnic" sounding name. But he looks white. When I was growing up Mexican's had Mexican names. Lots of Jose's, Manuel's, Estevan's, Alberto's, etc. It was only one class of 25 kids. But out of that class there were 20 kids who were latino and to only have 2 or 3 of those kids with traditional names has to say something.

November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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116. "See, this seems more self-loathing to me"
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What a lot of people in this post seem to be missing, is that a lot of these "black" names are pretty damned new, and a lot of us don't actually feel as if those names are part of "our culture" because they aren't traditional yet. These old Mexican names are traditional as fuck

  

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123. "but they are possibly looked at the same way when on job applications"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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125. "it's LOLable."
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b/c 'Jessica Villalobos Santillanas' ain't foolin no racist! LOL

fuck you.

  

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126. "because I had a complex growing up about being the white Mexican"
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i fucked my son out of being able to get jobs when he is grown.

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127. "not true. "
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he can still be a landscaper!

fuck you.

  

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128. "I dont know if his white skin would hold up"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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209. "Lol"
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fuck you.

  

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133. "Really? Kinda the opposite up here in the bay"
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I work for the school districts so I'm constantly traveling from school to school

And man lemme tell you it's a lot of Mexican kids with names like Monserrat, yahaira, julia (silent J), etc.

was born up here and I don't really remember it being that way



Of course this is all anecdotal.

  

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141. "maybe they're mixed race"
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my friends kids are dylan and asher Rodriguez* . She's white. He's mexican.

*slght last name change

maybe they're bilingual and are doing a english first spanish last name.

or doing the six mexican names thing and all but one is spanish

i don't think it matters.

  

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129. "I think it REALLY matters how you RAISE your child"
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As opposed to what you name the child. Granted, your child may face some obstacles if he or she has a certain type of name. The same can see said about how they look, but a properly raised child can overcome obstacles like their predecessors(who more than likely had "default" names.

If a parent is active in a child's life and gives the child enough love, supervision, instruction, education and other things needed to succeed in life, then said child will have a good chance to to be successful in life.

  

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132. "Even if you gave your black ass child a white name."
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If the employer is willing to reject them for a black ass name, what will stop them from rejecting their black ass when they walk in for the interview and see a black ass person? Your black ass child is black, okay? They are black.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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136. "gonna name my next kid black fist."
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138. "It does, but I don't think it's just about sounding "Black""
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It's a lot about class and perceived class. Working class white people often go with 'unique' names too and get a lot of the same judgement from teachers and employers (my mother was an elementary school teacher to mostly urban, white, working class kids; she hated to admit it, but she could tell looking down the list of names which kids were likely to be difficult each year and it was depressingly accurate - not all of them, but at least one every year would fulfill the prejudice)... it's not fair on the good kids in the slightest, but this definitely happens at all stages of life... it starts in the playground, continues through the classroom and all the way into adult life.

People see non-standard names and infer, however falsely and unreliably, something about how a child was likely to have been brought up - if the parents named the child for "fashion" rather than for "success", did they also pay more attention to the sneakers he was wearing than the books he was reading? Was he getting his ears pierced whilst James was getting his eyes tested? Was it cartoons or stories before bed?

It's ALLLLL in the perception - none of this has anything to do with actual parenting and is unfair on the majority of parents who use interesting names and raise great children, but we live amongst a species to whom perception is vitally important and I think it's unfair to thrust an unborn child into a life of having to prove people's misconceptions wrong when it's not really that big a deal to be called Nicholas or something else relatively unimaginative. If the child hates their boring name by the time they're a teenager, they can assume a nickname or get it changed anyway.

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140. "As long as my white name is attached to this black skin you can"
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miss me with that shit.



"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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143. "Side-note: Do you "fuck appeasing the white man" people actually like"
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"Creative" black names?

I gave my son an anglo name with a great deal of familial significance, but I was weighing giving him an old-school black name. I like old-school black names, as well as African and Arabic names, but I don't really fuck with "creative" black names. They were never a consideration, but it never had anything to do with making him sound white on a resume.

  

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145. "no, i don't."
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most of them give me the impression that the person's parents couldn't spell. indeed i've talked to a mother who admits her son's name is misspelled in part b/c she was still on pain medz after having given birth when they asked her for his name. LOL. but anyway...i'm generally not a fan of the more creative names but not b/c i fear the white man's retribution on the name-bearer.

fuck you.

  

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152. "why do you guys keep talking about the white man? "
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I think those creative misspelled names are shitty as hell.

Fuck what the white man thinks. A lot of Black people cringe at those names.

Sharkeedah is a fucked up name. I also hate those Bobby JoAnne, Suzy Joe, 2 first names white people love in Appalachia.

It's damn near impossible to say those names with love. You don't softly say Sharkeedah. You have to say it with your chest, from the gut.

SHARKEEDAH!!!

I got a cousin who was supposed to name her kid Marcus. But since she ain't about shit she added a De and now it's DeMarcus. The family was not happy. Duh..Marcus

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167. "Reply 162, but even if you mean just by us..."
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hella people in here don't and are talking about hiring practices and other stuff that
basically means white folk gon hold u back.

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146. "Just like any other name, it just depends on the name in question."
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148. "i quit having an opinion on creative names."
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I think blue ivy and nort west are stupid names.

but they ain't my kids.

  

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153. "but you just gave an opinion on their names..."
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and that's OK.

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157. "fair enough."
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my only point is that blue ivy's parents didn't consider MY opinion before they named THEIR baby. because fuck my opinion.
why should they care about my thoughts on the name?



for the same reasons, I won't consider the opinions of white supremacist before I name mine.

I'd name my kid whatever if I liked the name.

  

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160. "why do yall keep talking about white supremacist? "
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if you don't care what they think why do you keep bringing them up?


why cant WE, on okp, have discussions and leave it at that.


I know, Atillah... I know...

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162. "Well I mean.... when you say "it doesn't help a child""
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is that referring to how they'll be perceived solely by us as Black folk?
Or does that mean by...

I think you know where I'm going here lol

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176. "since we are only 13% of the pop."
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but I still don't like this white supremacy shit everyone runs to in every convo.

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168. "it's worth the effort to evaluate our thinking."
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we grew up in america,
so we got racist thinking embeded in our makeup just like white ppl do.

so we can tie ourselves in knots
always trying to make sure we stay on our best behavior.


sometimes, I catch myself worrying about stuff that white ppl don't worry about.

when I catch myself doing that, I intentionally stop it
and go back to thinking what I was thinking before.


any time I find myself asking,
"but what would white ppl think?" I kill the train of thought.


that doesn't mean I have to intentionally try to piss off white ppl, either.

but I damn sure can make a decision without considering their feelings.


if we gonna be free,
we have to deliberately start ignoring their feelings towards us.

which is hard, because society trains everybody to consider their feelings first.

so we talk about it...
so as to free our own minds.


>if you don't care what they think why do you keep bringing
>them up?
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>why cant WE, on okp, have discussions and leave it at that.
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>I know, Atillah... I know...

  

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164. "Same reason Chris and Gwyneth didn't ask about Apple."
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Madonna didn't ask about Lourdes, Michael Jackson didn't ask about Prince Michael II and Kimye didn't even think twice about naming an actual human being North West.

These kids will never have to worry about interviewing for a role as an office junior or graduate IT tech.

In the main, it's probably best that most of us don't base decisions about our own children on examples of extreme celebrity entitlement.

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170. "feeling entitled is a part of being free."
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i want my kids to feel entitled to certain things.

working class ppl would be better off if we felt more entitled to stuff rich ppl just get for being born.

if you feel entitled to something, you'll fight for it.

we need that.

  

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179. "certain things or everything?"
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183. "certain things. "
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there are somethings that can not and should not be owned.
but yeah... we should all feel entitled to certain things.

that is what makes us fight when we aren't getting what we should.

  

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191. "Should isn't is."
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In principle, your stance is impossible to argue with. Of course names should be transparent and everyone should be given a fair chance, but we all know the shortcomings of our species all too well in 2015 - humans will look for any reason to jump to a conclusion and save themselves the need for genuine evaluation.

I remember having stand-up rows with my Father about things like this when I was a teenager and I still agree with my ideologies, though I realise how naive I was now... people should absolutely not be judged on things like their name, their piercings, their hair style, their clothes or their vernacular... but they absolutely *are*, always have been and likely always will be to a certain extent. I chopped off my long, blonde, messy wannabe-surfer hair when I joined the adult world despite having protested to my father a few years earlier that I never would and that it'd never hold me back anyway.

When my best friend's ex pierced the ear of their 5 year old son, him and I saw pieces of his potential that would never be recognised because teachers and strangers will be too busy prejudging him as a troublemaker from a rough family. Of course it's sad, but it's no less true for it.

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195. "we can make it so it is. "
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giving thought to what racists will think about you and your children
is letting the terrorists win.

where does that stop?


should i quit wearing hoodies?
should i stop using my natural dialect?
should i take bass out of my voice when talking to white ppl at work?

and what will i name my kid?
what name would make racists feel better about my kid?



i really just can't.
and i won't.

we've come too far for me to think like that.

  

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207. "Is it right to weaponise an unborn child for this battle though?"
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Why thrust your child in the position where they're forced to struggle against this sort of bullshit when you have an easy option for them to avoid some of it?

I'm not trying to suggest white-washing either; naming your daughter Chioma instead of L'Orreyal (because she's worth it) seems like a prenatal act of kindness to me.

If they want a more imaginative/creative name when they're grown couldn't they pick a new one for themselves or earn a nick name from their friends?

I'm as white and 'average' as they come but I definitely consider society's expectations of me fairly often and I think it's helped me end up in a top tier job compared to most of my friends despite not having as many formal qualifications... it's not *just* about racism, there's certainly that element to it and it's more exaggerated along those lines, but it's largely just accepting the realities of living amongst millions of other humans.

I'd love to come into the office wearing my usual at-home uniform of baggy shorts, bright t shirts and hoodies and tell everyone to call me Albi instead of Simon like people do when I DJ, but for 8 hours a day I wear a dark suit and answer to Simon because I don't want to have to prove myself worthy of my position to ignorant motherfuckers with prejudices against unkempt, rap-loving potheads every 5 minutes. I don't need to stand out here, I'm not here for fame or to have my life choices validated, I just need to bring home a fat cheque once a month for the least possible hassle.

All of us need the ability to blend into the pack once when... I'm definitely grateful my my Mum pulled rank and called me Simon and not Cosmo or Thelonious like my Dad wanted because I'm shit at playing brass and I'd be wearing clown makeup to work by now.

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231. "we gotta act free in order to be free."
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racists don't get to decide what i name my kid.

nope.

  

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177. "exactly... "
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its like saying look at the NBA player with the fucked up name.

dude is 1% of the 1% who make it... but the rest of them Anphernys gotta go out in this world without scholarships and amazing ball skills.

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151. "i gave my son an oldschool black name because it was my granddads"
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name and plus i liked it just in general. as for the "creative" names? nah. wasnt even in the convo. and i KNOW his snooty ass moms wasnt havin it lol.

  

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239. "Generally no...but I also don't like a lot of African, Arabic, and Engli..."
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either. However, if I meet someone with ones of those names or have them as a student, I make it a point to learn how to pronounce the name correctly and treat the person with respect. I don't go around sneering at the person and whispering about how "ghetto" their name is. I also think it's very audacious and brave when Black people create original names for their kids.

  

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154. "I don't know if it's so much the conspicuous ethnicity of the name"
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as it is the perceived *class* of the name.

As has been mentioned, blatantly black names like Andre, Tyrone and Keisha are fine.

A name that takes the name of a downmarket liquor and parses it with randomly placed apostrophes and capitalizations... red flag.

Has anybody done such a study for white people? Are they less likely to be called back if they have names like Carrie Mae and Jimmy Joe Bob?

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156. "LOL pretty much"
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>A name that takes the name of a downmarket liquor and parses
>it with randomly placed apostrophes and capitalizations... red
>flag.

  

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166. "^^^^Everything you just said is spot on.1 of the best comparisons posted"
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172. "That being said, I don't think having a 'ghetto' name MAKES you"
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a miscreant.

Yeah, I understand all the arguments about how it colors the perception of others who encounter you.

But a lot of these people out here claiming that naming your son Ja'vaRiouss is gonna ensure that he grows up to be a criminal or WSHH video star.

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174. "I don't think anybody said its gonna ensure it, but it doesn't help at a..."
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>a miscreant.
>
>Yeah, I understand all the arguments about how it colors the
>perception of others who encounter you.
>
>But a lot of these people out here claiming that naming your
>son Ja'vaRiouss is gonna ensure that he grows up to be a
>criminal or WSHH video star.

  

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181. "So what effect does it have on shaping a child's character?"
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You got people in here suggesting that the reason a woman appears in a video kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach is *because* her name is La'Kray-Sha... what is it about the name that turns you into a crazy person?

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185. "honestly, i think you have to be a little crazy to spel a kids name like..."
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so more than likely that child is going to see crazy in their childhood and think violence is an acceptable option when disrespected.

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186. "if you're the type of parent that would name their kid La'Kray-Sha...."
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then obviously, you aren't a parent that is seeing the world clearly.
no wonder your kid is on World Star right now.

the kid never had a shot. it's this "culture" of poverty
that is keeping these kids down.

that's what i take from it.
that's what i used to think, at least.

>You got people in here suggesting that the reason a woman
>appears in a video kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach is
>*because* her name is La'Kray-Sha... what is it about the name
>that turns you into a crazy person?

  

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190. "So, in other words, it's not the name itself. nm"
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188. "^^ This is why white supremacy has to be mentioned in these"
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kinds of posts.

Because the answer to that question is "absolutely nothing", HOWEVER,
people are used to seeing that in a certain (black) community, and that
certain community faces economic, educational, and political disparities because of....
ding ding ding!
Unless you just wanna believe "Black" names make people crazy. That is just plain,
OUTRIGHT white supremacist speech... mufucka might as well join the Klan with that lol.


It's at the root whether it's stated or not.

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189. "please chill. "
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>OUTRIGHT white supremacist speech... mufucka might as well
>join the Klan with that lol.
>
>
>It's at the root.




i agree with you in terms of why we should name our kids what we want.

but i am also sure that you were not born having the perspective you have now.

you probably read a book or had somebody talk to you
and tbh, you would not have been all that receptive to the ideas you take for granted now if the ppl that approached you about this stuff called you a goddamned Klansman.

LD and i disagree a lot but goddamn.

i aint about to call the man a sellout.
i don't know him.
i don't know what he is doing for his ppl in his free time.
and the sentiment he is expressing is relatively common, in that he could have reached that conclusion without giving the issue as much thought as you have.


ppl might listen to you if you listen to them for a second.


i mean, damn.

you come across like a caricature of Black empowerment, not an
embodiment of it.

it is perfectly okay for the movement
for you to have some chill about you.

  

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197. "You sound 14 yrs old, bruh."
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>i agree with you in terms of why we should name our kids what
>we want.


That's awesome.


>but i am also sure that you were not born having the
>perspective you have now.


How did you come to this profound conclusion? I'm amazed.


>you probably read a book or had somebody talk to you
>and tbh, you would not have been all that receptive to the
>ideas you take for granted now if the ppl that approached you
>about this stuff called you a goddamned Klansman.


I read alot and still do. I also lived and saw things for myself. I wasn't lucky enough
to have people around me who would be so honest in my formative years.
I am my own man.


>LD and i disagree a lot but goddamn.
>
>i aint about to call the man a sellout.



I'm pretty sure he knows I'm not calling him one either.



>ppl might listen to you if you listen to them for a second.


Nigga fall back. Who am I not listening to? I disagree and I don't cut corners.
You and all this preaching can go to sleep. Take your own advice.


>i mean, damn.
>
>you come across like a caricature of Black empowerment, not an
>
>embodiment of it.
>
>it is perfectly okay for the movement
>for you to have some chill about you.

No chill. Not now, not ever. Cry about it.
Picture me giving a fuck how YOU feel about me. LOL


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202. "this is exactly NOT how to build"
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JCM is on your side

  

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210. "Yet you leave this comment for me..."
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Despite how he approached me, lol. Cliquey folks gonna clique.
I realize we agree, but you get checked for coming at me sideways.
No hard feelings from me, ever.
I say my piece tho. I have plenty opportunities to preach at people about their character too.
I got more social skill than that if I'm tryna build tho. *shrugs*

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204. "You really gotta tone this shit down to a 6 or 7. "
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201. "why do I have explain this?"
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its not that difficult

  

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232. "you don't."
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175. "Yes, exactly this."
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>as it is the perceived *class* of the name.
>
>As has been mentioned, blatantly black names like Andre,
>Tyrone and Keisha are fine.
>
>A name that takes the name of a downmarket liquor and parses
>it with randomly placed apostrophes and capitalizations... red
>flag.
>
>Has anybody done such a study for white people? Are they less
>likely to be called back if they have names like Carrie Mae
>and Jimmy Joe Bob?

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178. "i'm willing to bet southern names aren't frowned on "
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> Are they less likely to be called back if they have names like Carrie Mae and Jimmy Joe Bob?

  

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182. "I would assume the same"
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unless they're really extreme ones like Cooter and Billy-Boy (yes, people do have government names like that)

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184. "in corporate? i bet they are.. "
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187. "from what i understand *if* its a big issue they abbreviate it..."
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Caroline Anne Williams = Caroline A. Williams

Mary Lynn Prince = Mary L. Prince

Same for the men

  

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224. "yup. They cut that name off with the quickness"
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155. "Job recruiters and people in HR do discriminate against you "
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if you have an "ethnic" name. They are not supposed to and they could get in trouble if they do but they DO.

However for companies that lack alot of minorites (i.e. tech companies) having an ethnic name is probably a plus. So what does this mean? If you wanna name your kid LaKraysha give them a computer and teach em how to code when they are young.

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161. "I'm gonna get in trouble for this but fuck it..."
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how many parents giving their kids those names will encou4age them to write code?

I ask this question because I have a nice amount of cousins in the hood and they aren't thinking about code.

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173. "however many do."
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>how many parents giving their kids those names will encou4age
>them to write code?
>
>I ask this question because I have a nice amount of cousins in
>the hood and they aren't thinking about code.


it was easy for my parents to encourage music because there was a piano in the house that I taught myself to play.

bill gates had a mainframe before other ppl knew what it was. it's easy to encourage kids to do shit when you have stuff.


but yes, there are parents in the hood that are encouraging learning code.

  

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236. "How much of this is related to the name though?"
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163. "A Barack Obama is president tho"
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i mean... you're right somewhat, but at the same time fuck that...

  

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171. "Bara(c)k is a biblical name."
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The additional C anglicizes it a little, but yeah, it's about as traditional as Joseph; just rarer in the Western world.

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180. "and Blacks didnt fuck with him until we saw Michelle"
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and there was a big argument over Fox news and other candidates using his whole name.

7 years in and people still think he is a closer Muslim.

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192. "I think the bias is real but it's effect is surmountable"
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Most of the studies are focused on who gets called from online ads.... basically, what's often the long shot way of getting a job because you're up against dozens of people and HR people will downselect on arbritrary reasons, at times.

If you're name comes with a great referral from someone else that's worked with you, you're much more likely to get the job. Building that network is important for anybody... but it's particularly important if your name is unique.

I have an African name and I went through a short identity crisis in my all-white middle school where I wanted to have a "regular" name. I, thankfully, got over that shit and have been teaching people my African name ever since.

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194. "There is so much shaming of poor Black people on this board..."
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it's really sickening. Black people should name their kids what they want. It's one of the few ways we can demonstrate our autonomy in a white supremacist society. Instead of clowning kids with authentic African American names, we should fight against the system that oppresses them. Y'all niggas are classist and egregious as fuck.

  

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200. "^^^"
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205. "What is an authentic African American name to you?"
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212. "A name created by Black people in America"
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If it goes into common usage, than it's an authentic African American name. Think Tamika and Keisha.

  

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213. "Tamika and Keisha are great names, nobody here clowned those."
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215. "not NOW. They've become ingrained in the culture"
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D'Emontavious may be there in 30 years.

  

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230. "no they're not"
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>D'Emontavious may be there in 30 years.

and no it won't......

amongst white people these are still hood names.

  

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234. "I kinda agree with the second part"
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The first generation of original Af-Am names were fairly standardized, so the names were common enough to become traditional. The curent trend it to be uber-original and creative, so individual names aren't really gaining traction


But Keisha? Keisha is 50. Whole generations of white folk have grown up with middle-class Keishas.

  

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221. "so being black should make it impossible to be classist?"
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because that shit is in the water and I'm not surprised by it, Americans off all stripes hate poor people.

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222. "Can you show us where she said that?"
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238. "Lol"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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223. "YUP."
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fuck you.

  

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196. ""Hello fellas...how is the water today?""
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I've been reading through this thread and there are a lot of common points echoed throughout the thread

based on the fact that people here know of the bias that can come with a creative black name and the fact that the negative associations can be explicitly stated brings up a point that no one here has said outright:


wether we would like to admit it or not there are many things about yourself that will outline your mental image in persons mind before you will have a chance to speak or contextualize yourself.

humans have a habit of categorizing as a means of gaining understanding

a human being can be named anything but it cannot be ignored that names carry associations (beyond just "good" or "bad") and those associations are used to bring meaning into the minds of others

we could focus on white supremacy until the end of of the time but that is just one of the ways human weigh and consider names.

names live ahead of you and behind you; you are judged before you enter a room and reflected upon after leaving a room.

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199. "thinking about how you are judged hurts at a certain point."
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i passed that point a while back.

do you, and dare somebody to challenge you on it.

fuck the bullshit,
my life sucks when i think about ither ppl's opinions.

  

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206. "i hear you but that is not what im ultimately getting at"
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there are levels to being free and you can manage to break free and be your own person

however

that does not mean you do not think about the way other people come off or that you do not place judgement on others

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237. "it's a waste of mental engergy to do this."
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>that does not mean you do not think about the way other people
>come off or that you do not place judgement on others


we off that.

  

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198. "meanwhile Jordan Davis and Michael Brown"
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BOTH got killed just like Trayvon Martin and Rekia Boyd.

These crackas don't give a foooooooook #thewaymyracismissetup

I'll have a nice anglo sounding name (which I do), and get a call in for the interview where otherwise I would would have had my resume tossed, and then pay for 2 swipes to go to and from the interview JUST to only end up being Black in their face. Except even worse, cause I was deceptively Black.

The only reason why names should matter to an employer is that they spell it correctly on my paycheck. D'Quandaneshia could be the best programmer for corporate CEO EVER. Meanwhile yall hating.

Focus less on race and more on culture.

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208. "What's the FB car fight?"
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Got a link?

  

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214. "google exactly what you typed in the subject line"
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218. "Damn, that shit is some Grade-A foolishness right there"
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Mad people standing around filming a bunch of hoodrats yelling at each other. Punk-ass chick attempted murder on like 5 people, and dude's still holding their cameras yelling "damn!"

I never want to go to that place (is it East St. Louis?).

I know from riding bikes all the time that you pull off to the side where they can't hit you, THEN pop shit at a car driver.

  

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219. "i really don't see where it "helps", but name your kid what you want..."
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...i've been hearing some latin names like Xiomara (sp) that i peronally like, but it's whatever...do you....


let's NOT act like naming your kid "Wisdom" makes them more apt to "fit in"...either way, it's between you and the kid...

"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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225. "You can go to Harvard named Lajarius Lavartabel Greene"
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and be whatever you want to be

  

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226. "A lot of English names on this list of inmates"
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http://houstoncountyso.org/include/OMS_inmate.php


Most of the black men locked-up have good ol' English names likw William, Kevin or Patrick. Tho there are dudes named Debonair, LaJoespet, Cordaryl and Martavous on that list.

From the data gained form this sloppy, arbitrary and un-scientific study, I conclude it's a wash. A black dude could be named D'Anqueeshelle Jenkins and be successful, while James Smith III is a career crook.

  

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227. "oh wow."
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LOL

CHRISTOPHER BRANDON COLEMAN is in jail w/MARTAVOUS LADARIAN BYRD.

wrap this post up.

fuck you.

  

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229. "why CHRISTOPHER BRANDON COLEMAN trying to seduce me?"
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233. "he can't help it"
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fuck you.

  

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228. "LATIVIA NAKIA BYRD is the studliest stud of ALL TIME"
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235. "if people get my name wrong, i assume they're uncultured"
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and not well read. it's japanese, indian, russian, jewish/hebrew, in the koran, mexican, south american spanish, eastern european and the name of a black american author.

an acquaintance got my name wrong at dinner a few weeks ago and i told him it's okay i give white people a pass, everyone laughed and my jewish friend clowned him for several minutes.

i would learn towards giving my kid a similar name that's a biblical or mythological refernce or ethnic and traditional. not ffor the litmus test but because i'm not keen on robert or bill or skylar or jill.

  

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240. "yeah so do native americans and day of"
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the week africans

  

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