https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib_VIGWFufk

Full quote: "For a lot of well-meaning, open-minded white people, the sight of a young black man in a hoodie still evokes a twinge of fear."

Bernie is the one who "doesn't get it" though?

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even a fool can tell that clip doesn't present the full context of the statement, considering it's clear she followed that with...something.

here's the quote in full:

Let’s be honest: For a lot of well-meaning, open-minded white people, the sight of a young black man in a hoodie still evokes a twinge of fear. And news reports about poverty and crime and discrimination evoke sympathy, even empathy, but too rarely do they spur us to action or prompt us to question our own assumptions and privilege.

We can’t hide from any of these hard truths about race and justice in America. We have to name them and own them and then change them.

...go on and talk about it. but at least be, you know, HONEST. lol

fuck you.

noted.

Please, tell me more about how "open-minded whites" feel about blacks.

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o...kay.

fuck you.

After all - you rode HEAVY for hill-dawg against obama, so i expected you to cape.

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http://i.imgur.com/aNI9dmU.jpg

fuck you.

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/6495371

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i dunno what's up.

*shrugs*

fuck you.

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as i've said numerous times...i'm not in love w/Hillary i just think she's the best candidate in the field now. and i'm willing to vote for whomever wins the Dem party nomination - even if that's not Hillary. but i'm not so invested in her or her candidacy that i'm going to be made 'mad' over some gotcha! shit. i'm not a Clinton fanboy.

so...good luck w/this. maybe there's someone on this board who LOVES Hillary and is such a fool they can't understand that the clip in the OP lacks the full context of the statement and/or can't read the full quote i posted and/or is unable to comprehend the point Hillary made there. maybe that someone will play w/you as you seem to want in here.

best of luck.

fuck you.

you denied it but you were very vocal in supporting her over Obama in '08. But that's not an issue, you can be as moderate as you want to be. But it's also not shocking that you would want to paint this quote in a euphemistic light.

The context of what she said is flawed because she clearly stated (in a full sentence) that being fearful of young black-men in hoodies is something that "even open-minded whites" exhibit.

there's nothing "open-minded" about being fearful of black-men in hoodies.

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Clinton said this after the set-up statement that you've mischaracterized:

"We can’t hide from any of these hard truths about race and justice in America. We have to name them and own them and then change them."

WE HAVE TO...CHANGE. THEM.

them = hard truths about race.

hard truths = white ppl who are otherwise 'open-minded' being fearful of Blacks in hoodies.

she did NOT say it's 'open-minded' to be fearful of Blacks in hoodies. hell, i don't even know what that means.

fuck you.

>hard truths = white ppl who are otherwise 'open-minded' being
>fearful of Blacks in hoodies.

She said "well-intentioned, open-minded whites are fearful of black men in hoodies."

This is the same rhetoric that was widely used in an attempt to explain why Trayvon Martin was killed.

She's trying to have it both ways, as always. Trying to appeal to those whites who feel validated by her statement *and* trying to somehow be calling for a revision on race theory.

That Hill-Dog sho is slick.

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fuck you.

Notice she didn't say "all well meaning....."
She said "a lot of well meaning..."

There are a lot of progressive, well meaning white folks who will participate in an NAACP event and avoid the hoodied black man on their way back to their car.
Hell, a lot of black folks would do the same too

She is acknowledging that this is a problem and we need to be open and forthcoming in addressing it

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i cram to understand the 'GOTCHA' attempt here.

*shrugs*

fuck you.

and I *love* that you endorse that perspective.

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what's going on here?

fuck you.

oh ok

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Dude...we all know ol' girl is an easy target...But chill...This ain't the one....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

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And it's not even quality bait at that. But you know better than to try and frame an agenda based on a simple out of context sound bite.

You may not care for me, but I have come to expect a high standard from you. That's a compliment if you missed it.


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at a rally where he wasn't even able to articulate his stance, but Hill-dog gets to say that it's open-minded to be scared of black men in hoodies?

This is awesome.

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and add some insight

HRC already got screamed on for running that #alllivesmatter BS

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/24/417112956/hillary-clintons-three-word-gaffe-all-lives-matter

guarantee if she showed up to the netroot event she would have had a better prepared response that the BS that the other 2 threw out there

I'm guessing you're caping for Bernie

and I have to say I was very disappointed with how he handled himself at the netroot event

I get the feeling he thinks he deserves some lifetime pass because he was active in the civil rights era

but what was so telling, was both he and O'Malley for that matter, obviously had no interaction, NONE, with the #blacklivesmatter campaign

it was very telling that neither of them were ready to address an organization that has been active since Trayvon's murder

and they also weren't even ready to address a national story

he regurgitated the same stump speech instead of addressing the issue

and for somebody who wants us to believe he's the most progressive candidate

yeah, that's not gonna fly homie.

surely you can do better than a 14 sec clip

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At least not where it really matters. Not just here, but in many news/social media circles, it's been commonplace to see scathing attacks on Sanders when it comes to race - yet tepid criticisms of Hillary for her more significant mis-steps and failures.

Fact: In most of the reputable polls presently being conducted, Hillary Clinton is crushing Bernie Sanders when it comes to the black vote.

However, her record pales in comparison to Bernie's when it comes to challenging status-quo policies that acquiesce to the continued enablement of institutionalized white supremacy. She has never been as potent (whether you're assessing records or rhetoric) as Bernie at challenging structural racism.

The entire week I've heard that "Bernie thinks that just b/c cause he marched in the civil rights that he's somehow down. pshhh!" - but Bernie's been marching, voting, and influencing a higher dignity of human, civil, political and economic rights for 40/50 years while actively challenging structural racism - and he's still doing it. He never stopped doing it.

And yes - the fact that Bernie marched with the civil rights coalition, was arrested for protesting segregation in public schools, and was vocal against police brutality (particularly as it related to blacks) in 1961 matters. Particularly when Hillary was campaigning for a segregationist (Barry Goldwater) while Bernie was a champion of the civil rights movement.

But people act brand new and wholly neglect what Bernie has done since then.

While President Bill Clinton and most Democrats in Congress supported so-called welfare reform politics, Sanders not only voted against this policy change, but lambasted Clinton for his "assault on the poor, women and children, minorities, and immigrants is the grand slam of scapegoating legislation, and appeals to the frustrations and ignorance of the American people along a wide spectrum of prejudices.”

Bernie - ever since 1991 - has been vocal and active against the death penalty and the corruption of our criminal justice system, calling for our government to "not keep putting more people into jail and disproportionately punishing blacks.”

He constantly boasts the highest marks amongst the ACLU and NAACP.

After Ferguson he talked about the absurdity of police brutality in black communities, the travesty in arming corrupt police forces with military-grade weapons, and the sad state of affairs where "we have a nation where it's not safe for black men and women to walk the streets simply because they are black."

Hillary didn't do any of that.

He's been talking about structural racism since the 60's - and *still* talks about it - all the time. Hillary has/does not - and her voting record isn't in the same universe as Bernie's on the major issues.

That is the context people fail to synthesize when they slam Bernie yet play Press Secretary for Hillary when it comes to their respective ability to win the black vote.

So if people want to write him off (and vote for Hillary) because he got in a shouting match with a protester at Netroots over how to engage in a debate (not the debate itself, mind you) - then I would suggest they look into what he's said (and more importantly - done) to combat structural racism.

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you're typing alot of words

and I am intrigued by his candidacy

he's definitely on point on alot of topics

but none of that addresses the question

how could someone who you want us to believe is so in touch

completely miss a spontaneous moment to connect with that very base?

I don't think this is some gotcha moment

we're still +1 year in this campaign cycle

to date, they've all flubbed it TBH

and IMO his campaign really needs to sit down and think of how to present Bernie

without him looking like an old curmudgeon

and I don't see how that clip or your post helps.

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>how could someone who you want us to believe is so in touch
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>completely miss a spontaneous moment to connect with that very
>base?

I'm yet to hear you say exactly what his cardinal sin was here.

>and IMO his campaign really needs to sit down and think of how
>to present Bernie
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>without him looking like an old curmudgeon

I agree that he needs better counsel and a better strategy to connect to younger demographics - and a better strategy as how to better resonate with emerging political groups like BlackLivesMatter - but that should never be used as a reason to willfully ignore what he has done *and continues to do* - never stopped doing - to combat structural racism.

But too many people are dismissing him because of his aesthetics: an old white jewish dude in his 70's from Vermont. It just so happens that he's slaughtering all of his political peers where it actually matters.


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"I agree that he needs better counsel and a better strategy to connect to younger demographics - and a better strategy as how to better resonate with emerging political groups like BlackLivesMatter"

the cardinal sin

if you really want to go that far

and FTR, you're really taking this very hard

is that he's a candidate for the POTUS

comparatively, we've watched Barry O' field BS on the fly

without breaking a sweat

the homie was completely lost at that event

so the cardinal sin, as you referred to it, is that doesn't translate well for someone campaigning for president

you follow?

trust, if elected, he's going to be confronted with tougher issues than #sayhername

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Nothing he actually said or did?

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why didn't he say it?

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it was a potential gotcha question shouted at him and not worthy of playing along to even if he did know her name by heart

not to mention, i personally blank on my own birthday sometimes, my own peoples' names, nevermind names of ppl in the news

saying her name does nothing real for anyone

"off the top, no Google, can u name all the ppl murdered by cops this yr?"

are you implying that he just didn't know her name

"it was a potential gotcha question shouted at him and not worthy of playing along to even if he did know her name by heart"

that the #blacklivematter campaign isn't worth his time

"saying her name does nothing real for anyone"

or that he's not columbo and he wouldn't have solved the investigation in a 15 minute exchange with the audience

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please clarify

again, what is so telling, as someone who has attended #blacklivesmatter events in the past

is that they have obviously had 0 interaction with that group

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also

I live in LA

where there isn't a shortage of incidents

from Ezell Ford to the 2013 Gardena video that was just released

the examples that still get me pissed off

John Crawford
Tamir Rice
137 Shots
Eric Garner

sheeeiiitt, I remember going to see Fruitvale Station in the theaters

and I couldn't believe that people had no idea who Oscar Grant was

but this isn't about me is it

that was a moment that Bernie lost

to engage in genuine discourse on a legitimate issue

he missed.

and all he had to do was say her name

IT WASN'T A GOTCHA QUESTION

turning into Gargamel was the gotcha moment

why didn't he just say Sandra Bland?

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Sanders: "This video of the arrest of Sandra Bland shows totally outrageous police behavior. No one should be yanked from her car, thrown to the ground, assaulted and arrested for a minor traffic stop. The result is that three days later she is dead in her jail cell. This video highlights once again why we need real police reform. People should not die for a minor traffic infraction. This type of police abuse has become an all-too-common occurrence for people of color and it must stop."

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/22/bernie_sanders_becomes_the_first_candidate_to_speak_out_on_sandra_bland_we_need_real_police_reform/

Incidentally, Bernie Sanders - the 70-something year-old white male jewish senator from Vermont, time & time again proves (through actual votes/legislative action/statements) that he is the candidate speaking out and actually doing something about these issues. Ironically, he's being held to a higher (and far more unfair) standard than the black-vote magnet Hillary Clinton.

So my question again is: Why is this the case?





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He wasn't even allowed to address the crowd - a crowd which largely had no understanding of the work he's done and is presently doing to combat police brutality and structural racism.

Now, what didn't help matters is that the clueless O'Malley (who is actually from Baltimore) echoed the Hillary tagline "All Lives Matter" - but people just wanted to lump Sanders in with that ignorance without being fair or engaging him in an actual debate/discussion.

And that's all besides the point. Why? Sanders DID say her name. He was the first candidate to do so.

So Sanders is the problem?

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as you pointed out

O'Malley went first

so he knew what was going on before he even walked out there

and the moderator even tried to prompt him before him started talking

and what does he say, AS HE ADDRESSES THE CROWD..

"let me talk about what I want to talk about"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhrvKlZyS4

and then goes into his stump speech about income inequality

and isn't interrupted until it's obvious he's not going to #sayhername

c'mon fam

SMH

congrats on releasing a statement this wednesday

at least, it's a start

and I hope he incorporates the issue into his continued stump speeches

in your opinion, why didn't he just say her name?

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A fair and open discourse. Bernie was there on an immigration forum and #BlackLivesMatter hijacked the conference - which I respect (although the plight of Latino immigrants deserves its own forum and regard amongst protesters) - but there was no fair exchange. Nobody got on the mic and asked Bernie to engage in the debate, they just shouted on him as if he just said "All Lives Matter" when addressing police brutality (like what Clinton and O'Malley did). They likely didn't even know who he really was (which is the fault of his campaign team).

The larger issue was well elucidated by Robert Reich:

"it would be a terrible mistake for the progressive movement to split into a “Black lives matter” movement and an “economic justice” movement. This would only play into the hands of the right. For decades Republicans have exploited the economic frustrations of the white working and middle class to drive a wedge between races, channeling those frustrations into bigotry and resentment. In short, the Republican strategy has been to divide-and-conquer. They want to prevent the majority of Americans – poor, working class, and middle-class, blacks, Latinos, and whites -- from uniting in common cause against the moneyed interests. We must not let them."

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"However, her record pales in comparison to Bernie's when it comes to challenging status-quo policies that acquiesce to the continued enablement of institutionalized white supremacy. She has never been as potent (whether you're assessing records or rhetoric) as Bernie at challenging structural racism.

And yes - the fact that Bernie marched with the civil rights coalition, was arrested for protesting segregation in public schools, and was vocal against police brutality (particularly as it related to blacks) in 1961 matters. Particularly when Hillary was campaigning for a segregationist (Barry Goldwater) while Bernie was a champion of the civil rights movement."

seemingly can't be bothered or have his stump speech interrupted to address a specific issue

you follow?

Bern spoke for 20 minutes

and never addressed state violence against black and brown people

why? do you have an opinion?

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>Bern spoke for 20 minutes
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Vex...u doing too much, homie....We all know politics can be some unforgiving, unfair, bullshit.....

Bernie can point to marching for civil rights in the '60s....He can point to speaking on police brutality in the '70s....I mean, the man has credentials...

But you know what's more powerful than credentials? TELEVISION.....

And what black folk saw ON TV (fair or unfair) was Bernie coming off as an above it all white, old, out of touch liberal who seemed more perturbed that he was questioned about his BLACK CARD than the issue at hand....

No matter how you slice it, black folks will look at THAT and say, "I don't care if you marched with King....U don't know about what happening to my community NOW...."

Again, this may be unfair....But H. Clinton saw an opening and capitalized on Bernie's GET OFF MY LAWN moment.....It is what it is....Still early though. A lot of things can happen. Hill Dawg can get swept up by scandal, ect....

But one thing is for sure....We will not be winning the White House with Bernie as the nominee....God bless him though....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

some sort of conference or convention

http://movementforblacklives.org/about/

if I was involved with his campaign, he'd be there this weekend.

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>Bernie can point to marching for civil rights in the
>'60s....He can point to speaking on police brutality in the
>'70s....I mean, the man has credentials...

..and in the 80's, 90's, 2000's, up to present day. His work never stopped. It's reckless to tarnish his record by implying that he's some "what have you done for me lately" candidate - that's just not true.

>But you know what's more powerful than credentials?
>TELEVISION.....
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>And what black folk saw ON TV (fair or unfair) was Bernie
>coming off as an above it all white, old, out of touch liberal
>who seemed more perturbed that he was questioned about his
>BLACK CARD than the issue at hand....

I already agreed that he didn't handle the moment as well as he should have - but if that's the only time people had seen Bernie on TV or paid attention, then that's on them. Still, Bernie has to make a better effort to immerse himself in modern black issues - but he does more on that front than all of the other candidates combined. He makes Obama seem a moderate when it comes to structural racism and police brutality.

>Again, this may be unfair....But H. Clinton saw an opening and
>capitalized on Bernie's GET OFF MY LAWN moment.....It is what
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Sure. But that doesn't mean people can claim the logical high-ground on some "YOU HAVE TO TAKE HILLARY'S COMMENT IN CONTEXT" yet fail to take Bernie's entire career spanning 50 years in context. Hillary is winning the black vote, but inexplicably so.

>But one thing is for sure....We will not be winning the White
>House with Bernie as the nominee....God bless him though....

I don't concede that. Bernie can beat Hillary, and he can certainly beat Walker/Bush/Rubio/Trump.


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Stop being a literal-list, Vex.....u way too intelligent for that, homie.....

Also, this is why black folks in the BlackLivesMatter movement are giving Bernie the side-eye. Like I said, not all of it is fair...But OPTICS are very important, not giving a list of things u did in the past....

The money quote below: "Sanders came across as defensive, saying he spent 50 years “fighting for civil rights” and “if you don’t want me to be here that’s OK.” We all know what he was trying to say...But the way he CAME OFF on TV was an entirely different story....

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By Maya Park and Daniel Strauss

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Protesters who hijacked a presidential forum in Arizona last Saturday demanding that the candidates spend more time addressing problems in the black community left feeling dissatisfied.

But a week later, what at the time felt like a disastrous disruption has supercharged the Black Lives Matter movement — and pushed Hillary Clinton and her rivals for the Democratic nomination to speak to the concerns of an African-American community that is enraged by high-profile incidents of police misconduct and is demanding that its voice be heard.

“We’re not having this conversation because haven’t been polite,” NAACP President Cornell William Brooks told POLITICO on Friday. “We’re having this conversation because the presidential candidates are not being sufficiently precise.”

At the forum, hosted by the liberal activist group Netroots Nation, protesters clashed with Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley, commandeering the stage as they accused the two Democrats of ignoring police brutality against blacks.

O’Malley at one point said, “black lives matter, white lives matter, all lives matter” — a statement that offended many in the Black Lives Matter movement, who recall the phrase being used to diminish their cause.

Sanders came across as defensive, saying he spent 50 years “fighting for civil rights” and “if you don’t want me to be here that’s OK.”

“During the action, you saw Bernie Sanders trying to talk us down, trying to speak over us,” Angela Peoples, one of the organizers of the protest at Netroots and the co-director of GetEqual, an LGBTQ rights advocacy group. “Basically it was as if he was trying to pretend that there weren’t 15 people in the room screaming ‘black lives matter.”

Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), a leading member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said that the protesters should have let the candidates speak.

“If I ask you a question, I must want your answer. And so if I ask you a question and talk over your answer, what have I done?” Clyburn said, stressing the importance of substance over symbolism and cautioning against anyone who wants to “make a headline rather than make headway.”

Yet, as Peoples noted, all three major Democratic candidates have spent the week showing their concern for the black community.

Clinton, who skipped Netroots Nation, used a Facebook chat on Monday to emphasize that “everyone in this country should stand firmly behind” the notion that “black lives matter.”

Sanders began working the phrase ‘black lives matter’ into his stump speech and social media efforts, while O’Malley apologized and has made sure to repeatedly say he’s “listening and speaking to leaders” from the Black Lives Matter movement.

The candidates were acknowledging that, Brooks said, “the campaign rhetoric has not risen to the level of reality.”

Seizing the moment, the Black Lives Matter group —a movement organizing action on topics important to the black community and racial injustice — decided to quickly put together a summit in Cleveland, Ohio. The summit describes itself as “hundreds of Black freedom fighters from around the country” coming together to coordinate and build a new coalition for action in the black community. The conference offers panels on, for instance, self defense and organizing for black activists.

It comes after national attention fell on Sandra Bland, a 28-year-old African-American woman from Chicago who was pulled over by a Texas state highway patrolman for not signaling before changing lanes and then was jailed for not putting out her cigarette in her car, even though that’s not illegal. She died in jail, allegedly by hanging herself.

Bland’s death has further galvanized black leaders to demand that their concerns be heard. Many appreciate how the Democratic candidates talk about the black community’s economic disadvantages, but want them to more explicitly tie those gaps to racism — while others note that Bland was a college graduate.
WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 22: Democratic presidential candidate and U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) speaks at a Capitol Hill rally to introduce legislation to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour July 22, 2015 in Washington, DC. Sanders said the U.S. federal government is the largest employer of minimum wage workers in the United States. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
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“We get that the solution to the structural racism that black folks are facing is connected to fair wages, issues of access to education,” Peoples said. “The piece that’s missing is talking about how the legacy of racism, anti-blackness, and racial violence plays out in all of those issues.”

There were also setbacks. Sanders, for instance, reportedly skipped a meeting with Black Lives Matters protesters during the Netroots Nation weekend and ended up sending campaign manager Jeff Weaver instead. That resulted in some grumbling.

“Bullshit — I’m sorry,” Jamal Simmons, a Democratic consultant, said. “If he was scheduled to meet with activists, then he should have met with activists. You can’t not show up. You gotta show up.”

Other black leaders said that merely showing up wouldn’t be enough, either.

“The day is over for saying ‘I believe in justice,’ and ‘Everyone should have equality, whether black or white, male or female, young or old,’” Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) said in a phone interview from Nairobi on Friday.

Talking about how economic inequality affects African Americans is fine, legislators, activists and strategists said — but specific plans to address it are better.

For instance, Clyburn said, Sanders should offer a plan for dilapidated schools and Medicaid expansion in states that have resisted Obamacare.

“Yes, the criminal justice stuff is big,” said Democratic strategist and pollster Cornell Belcher. “If you’re talking to African-American women who will be a plurality in a lot of these Democratic primary states, education and not losing a lot of young people to crime and violence is still tops. And yeah, they have angst economically about jobs.”

Of the three main Democratic candidates, Clinton has been the most assertive in speaking to those issues.

Earlier in the year, she unveiled a set of criminal justice reform proposals with mentions of the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio, and Trayvon Martin in Florida. On Thursday, Clinton continued to beat that drum, saying in a panel at South Carolina’s influential Brookland Baptist Church, “It’s essential that we all stand up and say, loudly and clearly, that yes, black lives matter.’”

Speeches like that have helped Clinton stay visible in the African-American community, Belcher said.

“I think that most of the polling that you see right now is that Sanders and O’Malley are not very well known figures in the community,” Belcher said. “What’s important is for you to build a strategy around how to introduce yourself in the black community in a way that resonates with the value of the community and that’s not hopefully tone-deaf which is what Bernie came across with.”

It’s something O’Malley seems to have realized. On Wednesday, he released a statement saying his “heart breaks for Sandra Bland and her family” and called for a “thorough and independent investigation of the traffic stop, the arrest and Ms. Bland’s tragic death in custody.”

He also called Harvard Law Professor Charles Ogletree on Wednesday to discuss the Black Lives Matter movement and topics important to the African-American community, as part of a series of discussions ahead of unveiling his criminal justice platform.

“We had a robust and informative and strikingly candid conversation about the past, present, and future,” Ogletree said, adding he expected to talk more with O’Malley going forward.

Meanwhile, Sanders has made sure to try and offer more specifics in media interviews and over social media.

“We have more people in jail than any other country on Earth,” Sanders said in an MSNBC interview on Wednesday. “Millions of lives have been destroyed because people are in jail for non-violent crimes, so we have to take a look at mandatory minimums and the drug policy and the militarization of police forces all over the country. We have to take a look at use-of-force policy. That is what you saw in that dreadful and painful video of Sandra Bland.”

“We’ve got a lot of work in front of us,” Sanders added.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/netroots-disruption-energizes-black-activists-120617.html#ixzz3gw5JU4YB

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

And if a faction is allowing optics and perception to usurp actual substance, then it becomes an issue.

But yes - I concede that Sanders has to do more to immerse himself into the modern social media and street movements surrounding #BlackLivesMatter -- but my point is, he rocks with the movement, he just doesn't communicate it in the most effective way - and part of that is because he's in his 70's and isn't paraded around w/ handlers for weeks before making a carefully crafted public statement like Hillary. Hillary would never be caught up in a situation where she was interacting w/ protestors who weren't supposed to be at a particular event - so let's just put things in perspective.

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I'm going to side with the folks that rarely get their voice heard....While Republicans have basically said fuck u niggas, the Dems have been getting pretty complacent when it comes to listening to our needs and actually saying something beyond the usual bullshit soundbite....So the the BlackLivesMovement folks are finally getting a response from the politicians...They are FINALLY making them tap dance....

So Bernie had his chance to say SOMETHING that day....And within that moment he laid an egg and the optics looks terrible....Fair or Unfair....

Bernie has time to clean it up...In fact he's starting to do so....But sending your assistant to speak to the very same people u just pissed off??? That ain't gonna work....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

you can argue context and meaning

you can't just reverse the words, THEN argue context and meaning based on stuff she didn't say

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

"For a lot of well-meaning, open-minded white people, the sight of a young black man in a hoodie still evokes a twinge of fear."

That statement clearly says that "a lot" of open-minded (and well-meaning) white people are fearful of young black men in hoodies. It's an enabling statement that rationalizes and pardons those who think black men in hoodies are scary. As such, if you're white and think black men in hoodies are scary, you're still open-minded and it's ok - because you mean well.

But no big deal, I'll just remember this when some of the people in this post who endorse this perspective rant on social media all day when something far less egregious is being said/done.


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The first is a set up clause. The second contradicts it.

There's am implied "but" after the comma (although it doesn't fit for this particular sentence structure, the idea remains)

For example, "For a lot of healthly athletes, a burger from McDonalds is still a nice treat."

You wouldn't say this statement claims McDonalds is a healthy place to eat. It is saying these people are healthy, BUT they still do things that are unhealthy.

For Clinton's statement: These people are otherwise well meaning and open minded, BUT they are still fearful.."

Combine this with her following sentence which you clip cuts out, then you have a statement that only a crazy person could find fault with.

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the logic you just laid out is sound (and yes - what Hillary said is fairly benign and she was trying to make a larger point on race, albeit while still harnessing her moderate, white base), but the way the media and the general public respond to Sanders and Clinton respectively as it pertains to race is wild.

When Hillary says something that can be interpreted as saying something out of sync, people go Claire McCaskill and give a Press Secretary explanation on what Hillary really means/says.

In contrast, the Sanders NetRoots situation saw nobody trying to contextualize anything - no similar logic applied, just a tsunami of hashtags denigrating his public service.

Contradictory clauses, indeed.


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Not just snippets. The entire netroots event was a debacle for him.

If you want to make the claim that the media is unfair to the candidates, that can be easily done.

You don't have to stoop to using terrible examples such as this one.
the clinton snippet you posted wasn't even inflammatory by itself. You had to turn into stretch Armstrong to try to make it into something that still makes no sense.

There are so many better examples of how Clinton is the anointed one in the eyes of the media. Use those

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>There are so many better examples of how Clinton is the
>anointed one in the eyes of the media. Use those

Yes - but I'm particularly interested in both of these candidates as it pertains to magnetizing the black vote. Hillary is pulling that vote by wide margins - still - yet her record on black issues, police brutality, structural racism, and income equality are laughable in comparison to Bernie's -- so how can you claim context yet not attempt contextualize the netroots conference - like at all?


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>Not just snippets. The entire netroots event was a debacle
>for him.
>
>If you want to make the claim that the media is unfair to the
>candidates, that can be easily done.
>
>You don't have to stoop to using terrible examples such as
>this one.
>the clinton snippet you posted wasn't even inflammatory by
>itself. You had to turn into stretch Armstrong to try to make
>it into something that still makes no sense.
>
>There are so many better examples of how Clinton is the
>anointed one in the eyes of the media. Use those



This^^^^^^^^

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

I don't know why you're lying, and I don't care.

It's not an enabling statement. Acknowledging an actual thing people think --- is not endorsing that thing.

She didn't say "they have a reason"

and literally the next line is about stereotypes and biases...of which that is an example.



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

> It's an enabling statement that rationalizes and
>pardons those who think black men in hoodies are scary. As
>such, if you're white and think black men in hoodies are
>scary, you're still open-minded and it's ok - because you mean
>well.

"but too rarely do they spur us to action or prompt us to question our own assumptions and privilege.

We can’t hide from any of these hard truths about race and justice in America. We have to name them and own them and then change them."

so, no.

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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

The hoodie part isn't even needed really.

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

No harm no foul.

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

I'm guessing that's what she was trying to say

hard to tell with a 14sec clip

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Bron

dont shoot the messenger, ppl

Nevermind.

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"Love your haters until they can love themselves and then love them further." ~ J. Case

This aint the 90s grandma.. fuck you and your deleted emails.

yupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyup

>This aint the 90s grandma.. fuck you and your deleted emails.



I'm down for getting at these politicians when they r on that PANDER bear shit....

But this quote doesn't fall into that category....Gotta read the entire comment before going off the rails with this one.....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

But I am surprised Hillary would be so dumb. Maybe she wanted to make the race more interesting.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

supporter to see that there are some 1) agenda driven heads, 2) non reading, or 3) ignorant mufuckers in this post....

Like, for real?