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neuro_OSX
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"Sandra Bland dash cam video"


  

          



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I'm not watching-- this stuff is basically snuff film murder porn now
Jul 21st 2015
1
The video just shows her getting unlawfully arrested.
Jul 21st 2015
5
that may be so, but it makes it no less disturbing
Jul 22nd 2015
21
.
Jul 22nd 2015
20
I'm fucking pissed, man.
Jul 21st 2015
2
RE: I'm fucking pissed, man.
Jul 21st 2015
3
So her real "crime" was not being happy about being pulled over?
Jul 21st 2015
4
In Texas are people with epilepsy allowed to drive
Jul 22nd 2015
16
      I'm pretty sure it depends on the severity of it.
Jul 22nd 2015
32
      it depends on how recent your most recent seizure was
Jul 22nd 2015
53
So there is a person saying that this video was edited...
Jul 21st 2015
6
oh boy............Ava Duvernay agrees
Jul 21st 2015
7
dog, anyone who watches the video that isnt blind would agree
Jul 21st 2015
13
      lol
Jul 21st 2015
15
I don't get it
Jul 21st 2015
8
Yes, the edited footage could be inconsequential.
Jul 21st 2015
9
RE: Yes, the edited footage could be inconsequential.
Jul 21st 2015
12
RE: I don't get it
Jul 21st 2015
11
Hes talking about the arrest
Jul 21st 2015
14
RE: So there is a person saying that this video was edited...
Jul 21st 2015
10
fam, @32:39 the f'n car disappears, yeah, I can't wait to hear the BS
Jul 22nd 2015
18
      The car disappears then the same car comes in
Jul 22nd 2015
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      RE: The car disappears then the same car comes in
Jul 22nd 2015
26
      RE: The car disappears then the same car comes in
Jul 22nd 2015
27
      Whoever had Youtube's fault in the office pool, collect your prize!
Jul 22nd 2015
34
this is very disturbing, sad and tragic
Jul 22nd 2015
17
sick sad shit!
Jul 22nd 2015
19
I think they choked her to death then made it look like a hanging
Jul 22nd 2015
22
      I dunno man
Jul 22nd 2015
28
           oh most definitely everyone is dirty on this. No good cops man.
Jul 22nd 2015
33
so basically he got annoyed that she was annoyed
Jul 22nd 2015
23
A couple of obvious observations
Jul 22nd 2015
25
I was wondering the same thing
Jul 22nd 2015
29
this shit has me so fucking mad I don't even know what to say...
Jul 22nd 2015
30
My dime on the matter.
Jul 22nd 2015
31
Bullsh*t stop to begin with. that cop escalated everything
Jul 22nd 2015
35
why did she need to put out her cigarette?
Jul 22nd 2015
36
did you peep him lying on the phone afterward? ALSO
Jul 22nd 2015
37
yeah
Jul 22nd 2015
40
That's what gets me
Jul 22nd 2015
38
      LOL @ always blow on the pie.
Jul 22nd 2015
39
           That cop was so quick on the draw
Jul 22nd 2015
42
                Exactly.
Jul 22nd 2015
43
white girl smart mouthing police officer
Jul 22nd 2015
41
^^ that's all this cop had to do.
Jul 22nd 2015
44
lol that cop was great
Jul 22nd 2015
47
look how THS officer handles mouthing off? https://youtu.be/GXY2fImfr7Y
Jul 22nd 2015
45
much nicer than he had to be
Jul 22nd 2015
49
that's all well and good, LOL@1992, but this is the video they show
Jul 22nd 2015
51
      In 2015, this vid would have lasted about 45 seconds
Jul 23rd 2015
63
They just uploaded a new dashcam video to prove its unedited
Jul 22nd 2015
46
This would likely open the police department up to liability
Jul 22nd 2015
48
Even if she did commit suicide
Jul 22nd 2015
50
I really wish both of them would have just shut the fuck up..
Jul 22nd 2015
52
agree but the cop was at work, so he was being PAID to act professionall...
Jul 22nd 2015
54
oh I agree. He was in control of the outcome of that situation.
Jul 22nd 2015
55
      ^
Jul 23rd 2015
65
agreed
Jul 23rd 2015
60
He gave her the option to keep it lit. If he wanted it out.
Jul 23rd 2015
68
      not sure what that has to do with anything.
Jul 23rd 2015
71
           RE: not sure what that has to do with anything.
Jul 23rd 2015
92
                who is giving an excuse though? I'm not talking legal or illegal..
Jul 23rd 2015
101
                     RE: who is giving an excuse though? I'm not talking legal or illegal..
Jul 23rd 2015
112
                          I'm not willing to contribute to the unnecessary escalation of a situati...
Jul 23rd 2015
128
                               RE: I'm not willing to contribute to the unnecessary escalation of a sit...
Jul 23rd 2015
130
                                    I'm not disagreeing with you, fam. I'm not assigning blame to the...
Jul 23rd 2015
131
theres speculation she may have already been dead in her mugshot.
Jul 22nd 2015
56
thats a little too much conspiracy theory even for me
Jul 23rd 2015
57
So they're saying this was taken after she appeared b4 the judge &
Jul 23rd 2015
58
^^^^^people who insist she's dead in the mugshot ignore these facts
Jul 23rd 2015
62
      I mean.. I'm not saying it's impossible that they didn't take the pic
Jul 24th 2015
148
i just cant.
Jul 23rd 2015
59
start trying to believe it.
Jul 23rd 2015
64
RE: i just cant.
Jul 23rd 2015
98
Oh good grief.
Jul 23rd 2015
61
everytime i see that picture it fucks me up
Jul 23rd 2015
66
Lwren Scott was 6ft and killed herself on a door knob.
Jul 24th 2015
149
She's not against a wall and her arms are at different angles
Jul 23rd 2015
67
she went before a judge and talked to family after her arrest
Jul 23rd 2015
70
that looks like a floor and her shoulders indicate different angles.
Jul 23rd 2015
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      agreed
Jul 23rd 2015
73
      how can you tell its a floor and not a wall?
Jul 23rd 2015
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its a gray background, how can you tell if its a wall or a floor?
Jul 23rd 2015
74
      You can't. But people are worked up to it's gonna go that way.
Jul 23rd 2015
79
      too much CSI, lol
Jul 23rd 2015
84
      To be honest I can't. Her body just screams 'prone' to me here's why
Jul 23rd 2015
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           RE: To be honest I can't. Her body just screams 'prone' to me here's why
Jul 23rd 2015
90
                This dude said her face clean......
Jul 23rd 2015
94
                I said to me. Just looks like it was washed.
Jul 23rd 2015
100
                     RE: I said to me. Just looks like it was washed.
Jul 23rd 2015
102
                          her face isn't what convinces me. Her clothes and musculature do.
Jul 23rd 2015
109
                You think her arms are at her sides?
Jul 23rd 2015
99
the shoulders are a dead giveaway
Jul 23rd 2015
75
that alone
Jul 23rd 2015
76
why would they stage the pic?
Jul 23rd 2015
78
i dont know.
Jul 23rd 2015
80
because they didn't book her properly
Jul 23rd 2015
81
uhhh...because they murdered her maybe???
Jul 23rd 2015
89
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2enmc8i.jpg
Jul 23rd 2015
91
digital photos have exif data. they need to release that.
Jul 23rd 2015
77
yup. If they said she died on the 13th exit data should
Jul 23rd 2015
87
That data can be manipulated though.
Jul 23rd 2015
103
^^^being too rational^^^^^
Jul 23rd 2015
95
If they don't within the next few days, i'm further #teamshewasdeadalrea...
Jul 23rd 2015
96
they tryin to alter that shit rat nah..jus like the video
Jul 23rd 2015
105
**link to other Waller co mugshots(is that the correct co jail?) to comp...
Jul 23rd 2015
106
I'm not watching this
Jul 23rd 2015
69
not sure why people are coming up with excuses
Jul 23rd 2015
83
baseless speculation about the photo is a diversion from the real FACTS....
Jul 23rd 2015
93
      but you saw that video right? You saw Scott's killer move evidence
Jul 23rd 2015
116
I get PISSED at Black folks like Michael Colyar for saying "She shouldn'...
Jul 23rd 2015
85
I read that as, These situations can be avoided if you're a robot
Jul 23rd 2015
86
For real. And I hate that ANYTHING we do has to come with a "well,
Jul 23rd 2015
97
Are there black sovereign citizens?
Jul 23rd 2015
104
there is no such thing as sovereign citizenship.
Jul 23rd 2015
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      RE: there is no such thing as sovereign citizenship.
Jul 23rd 2015
111
      lol
Jul 23rd 2015
113
      Was the word "Bey" in their names?
Jul 23rd 2015
126
           yes in most cases.
Jul 23rd 2015
127
perhaps not, should have....rather why didn't she?
Jul 23rd 2015
108
^ the best and most honest advice.
Jul 23rd 2015
110
except she did what she was asked to do
Jul 23rd 2015
115
      Do what they say only works if you hear requests as commands
Jul 23rd 2015
117
           RE: reply 86
Jul 23rd 2015
118
                Hey I agree-- that cop was looking for someone to harass.
Jul 23rd 2015
119
RE: I get PISSED at Black folks like Michael Colyar for saying "She shou...
Jul 23rd 2015
114
Like we don't get harassed when we have a good attitude...
Jul 23rd 2015
121
DA speaks... Bullshit
Jul 23rd 2015
120
The weed is allegedly while in custody-- which makes no sense.
Jul 23rd 2015
122
shit stays in your system for months
Jul 23rd 2015
135
      They are saying the private autopsy showed she ingested it
Jul 23rd 2015
140
           ah
Jul 23rd 2015
142
One hypothetical that fits, IMO. hematoma
Jul 23rd 2015
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      I agree
Jul 23rd 2015
124
      :-/
Jul 23rd 2015
125
      Right
Jul 24th 2015
156
           It's also starting to feel alot like Ferguson IRT the information being
Jul 24th 2015
160
RE: Sandra Bland dash cam video
Jul 23rd 2015
129
Officer Brian Encinia, is under a criminal probe LINK
Jul 23rd 2015
132
I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think foul play
Jul 23rd 2015
133
The poorly edited video that went up then down is not a red flag?
Jul 23rd 2015
139
Her death and what happened during the stop are independent events
Jul 23rd 2015
143
      RE: They taking booking photos on your arrival
Jul 24th 2015
144
      If I told you there are other booking photos with orange jump suits...
Jul 24th 2015
145
           RE: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/?page=1
Jul 24th 2015
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                RE: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/?page=1
Jul 24th 2015
147
                     based on there being other photos in each of those references
Jul 24th 2015
163
                          no
Jul 24th 2015
167
      They jail/county uploaded a new video that plays all the way through
Jul 24th 2015
151
      So what does the officer say that was missing?
Jul 24th 2015
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      I understand a lot of what you're saying and don't fault your stance
Jul 24th 2015
153
Same. I don't think its foul play. I do think they fucked this up
Jul 24th 2015
154
‘Character Assassination’ of Sandra Bland
Jul 23rd 2015
134
right?
Jul 23rd 2015
136
RE: right?
Jul 23rd 2015
137
He is 100% about driving through that area
Jul 23rd 2015
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      RE: He is 100% about driving through that area
Jul 23rd 2015
141
      aww man i went to school for a lil while in th GT..beaumont
Jul 24th 2015
150
This new video of her supposedly being dragged lifeless from the cruiser
Jul 24th 2015
155
people don't pay that much attention, especially when they are already u...
Jul 24th 2015
157
clearly, but damn all that. Someone probably put that video out there on...
Jul 24th 2015
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And there is all this record of her being alive in jail. I think her
Jul 24th 2015
162
u can get arrested for resisting arrest yet not told why ur arrested???
Jul 24th 2015
159
i'm no lawyer, but THIS seems like a key violation of procedure/her righ...
Jul 24th 2015
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      Unfortunately, I think the officer was technically right in arresting he...
Jul 24th 2015
164
           right, he can ask her to step out of her car...
Jul 24th 2015
165
           yeah, failure to comply with a lawful order
Jul 24th 2015
166
           alot of your 'rights' are up to an officer's discretion. If an officer d...
Jul 26th 2015
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           Here's thing his first order is unlawful. The cigarette issue is semanti...
Jul 27th 2015
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                You're talking semantics, I'm telling you the legal ground he had for
Jul 27th 2015
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                     No I get that stance, but I think even it fails in light of the initial ...
Jul 27th 2015
174
                          I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think they are even going to charge
Jul 28th 2015
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RE: Activist Found Dead In Jail Cell After Traffic Fine Arrest
Jul 26th 2015
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This is why I don't give two fucks when cops are murdered.
Jul 26th 2015
169
...
Jul 26th 2015
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any timeline on the independent autopsy?
Jul 28th 2015
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Atillah Moor
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1. "I'm not watching-- this stuff is basically snuff film murder porn now"
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I say that because they just keep showing it to the public and nothing changes and folks just get used to seeing it because it really is nothing new and people used to actually watch black men, women, and children get killed in plain sight within the past 100 or so years so it really is business as usual. Ritual violence just like Coates said.

All I can really say is that if there was foul play involved in her death I hope true and righteous justice falls on the heads and households of all those involved, but that's just me though,

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Meadow
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5. "The video just shows her getting unlawfully arrested."
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21. "that may be so, but it makes it no less disturbing "
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2. "I'm fucking pissed, man."
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The fuck.

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3. "RE: I'm fucking pissed, man."
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Tue Jul-21-15 08:26 PM by neuro_OSX

  

          

No reason for her to be arrested, serious bullshit. Racist ass muthafucking white cops.. She didnt submit to that white authority so he removed her from the car and ultimately contributed to her being murdered, directly or indirectly.

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4. "So her real "crime" was not being happy about being pulled over?"
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Tue Jul-21-15 09:04 PM by Boogie Stimuli

          

The inconsequential micro-orders were gonna persist until he either dehumanized
her or found a reason to remove her from the vehicle.

Sandra: I have epilepsy
Cop: Good

This supercoon Black woman is disgusting.. "I saw the whole thing! Yessuh you's right Mr. White Man!"

That punk cop just wouldn't have been satisfied until she was grinning in his face while
during a traffic stop. And listen to all the the dishonesty when he calls it in.
And does a person need to look at you for you to give them a warning or a ticket?
Hell naw. He's dealing in his emotions.
And at one point she gets VERY quiet after being very vocal. I'm wondering if she
was unconscious or had had a seizure at that point.
All around disgusting.

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16. "In Texas are people with epilepsy allowed to drive "
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Or are there permits which would allow them to?

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32. "I'm pretty sure it depends on the severity of it. "
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I have a friend with epilepsy and I recall her driving. I never checked her id or anything. I just assumed it was all good.

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53. "it depends on how recent your most recent seizure was"
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my cousin in law has epilepsy and is sometimes able, sometimes not able. same iwth all her sisters.

  

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Meadow
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6. "So there is a person saying that this video was edited..."
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So we have unlawful arrest and possible tampering with evidence during a murder investigation. Oh boy.

http://bennorton.com/dashcam-video-of-violent-arrest-of-sandra-bland-was-edited/

  

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7. "oh boy............Ava Duvernay agrees "
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https://twitter.com/AVAETC/status/623683526001438720

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‏@AVAETC

I edit footage for a living. But anyone can see that this official video has been cut. Read/watch. Why? #SandraBland http://bennorton.com/dashcam-video-of-violent-arrest-of-sandra-bland-was-edited/ …

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13. "dog, anyone who watches the video that isnt blind would agree"
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I went to 33:19 or whatever to see if I could ctach the edit. that shit is so fucking obvious. Its like if I tried to edit the footage myself with imovie.

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15. "lol"
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>I went to 33:19 or whatever to see if I could ctach the edit.
>that shit is so fucking obvious. Its like if I tried to edit
>the footage myself with imovie.

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8. "I don't get it"
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I jumped to the times in the article. While there is clearly something wrong with the footage, it seems to happen at an inconsequential time. Nothing is happening there.

The guy is just talking and it doesn't see like there are any breaks in the audio.

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Meadow
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9. "Yes, the edited footage could be inconsequential."
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I just got finished watching the video, saw some of the comments and posted.

Kind of wish they just sped the video up during those moments (if that's really the reason it's edited) rather than cut it up and not mention it.

People are really suspicious right now.

  

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neuro_OSX
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12. "RE: Yes, the edited footage could be inconsequential."
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I disagree nothing should have been sped up, you're watching a video on youtube as the viewer you can manually move the video along if you want. There are 10 hr videos on youtube, no excuse for not including the raw unedited video.

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neuro_OSX
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11. "RE: I don't get it"
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Its possible it was edited because one or two words perhaps racial slurs were spoken by the officers. Never a good look when police vehicle dash cam footage is edited and that fact isn't notated when the video is released on the official youtube channel of the sheriff department.

Shit aint right, I hope the FBI jumps all over this bullshit

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14. "Hes talking about the arrest"
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my guess is he either makes a joke or says something inappropriate or says something he shouldnt have said. Cause it loops and you hear his stupid chuckle.

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neuro_OSX
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10. "RE: So there is a person saying that this video was edited..."
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Ain't that some bullshit.. FUCK!

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18. "fam, @32:39 the f'n car disappears, yeah, I can't wait to hear the BS"
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they come up for this here.

WOW!

I guess we know what that fool's been doing while on desk duty.

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24. "The car disappears then the same car comes in"
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It looks like the clip stopped and then looped back. That's weird.
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26. "RE: The car disappears then the same car comes in"
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more than once too. you see a few cars disappear, reappear and loop back again. shit is crazy!

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27. "RE: The car disappears then the same car comes in"
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over and over and over

I think there's a least a few minutes in sequence

beginning at that time mark

where that same car, followed by the same car

disappears and reappears

at least a few times

shit is real obvious.

I thought about that

maybe just a glitch where the recording jumps

but I'm assuming (and hoping) it's a digital recording

+ for all the obvious editing loops

the audio is never interrupted

= somebody did something to that tape.

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34. "Whoever had Youtube's fault in the office pool, collect your prize!"
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/sandra-bland-arrest-dashcam-video-questions

Texas police have now told Mother Jones that the 52-minute video of Bland's was not deliberately edited, and that the glitches were the result of a YouTube upload error. "Some of the video that occurred during this conversation was affected in the upload and is being addressed," said Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman Tom Vinger, by email. He added that the agency asked the FBI to examine the footage to ensure its integrity, prior to the video's release. (In a July 17 statement, DPS says that officials asked the FBI to "conduct a forensic analysis" of the footage.) He didn't elaborate about the specific glitches, nor the apparent mismatch between audio and video.

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17. "this is very disturbing, sad and tragic"
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i'm at a loss for words.

  

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19. "sick sad shit!"
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and the video doctoring?! wtf! they hung that girl in her cell.

  

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22. "I think they choked her to death then made it look like a hanging"
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choking and shooting seem to be the most common ways by which they kill.

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28. "I dunno man"
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this is some truly sick shit. doctoring videos and shit, lord knows what else they do and have done. too many people involved that were okay with it.

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33. "oh most definitely everyone is dirty on this. No good cops man."
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I worry about the second autopsy even being able to produce any solid evidence as I can't help but imagine the body has already had anything incriminating removed or covered up.

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23. "so basically he got annoyed that she was annoyed "
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and decided to escalate the situation. It did look like he was speeding up and she just got over to get out of his way. Although it was obvious she wasn't happy about the situation, she was calm and did everything he asked. He couldn't come up with a good reason to ask her to get out of the car so he kept saying "I'm giving you a lawful order." Wtf does that mean? He didn't like that how authority was being challenged. So, once again, instead of calming a situation, the cop escalates the situation. Of course it's very fishy that she went from being that feisty to deciding to kill herself. Can't wait for them to get to the bottom of this.

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25. "A couple of obvious observations"
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I can't help but wonder the race of the person stopped at the beginning of the video

that fool was straight kiki'ing it up, safe bet they weren't black

That MF'ing towtruck was on the scene with the quickness

maybe we need to make them EMS techs too

and Fok that bird running up on the scene on some

yeah boss, we showl did get kicked boss, ise saw da howl thing boss

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY GO BACK IN THE CAR 80 11 HUNDRED TIMES?

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29. "I was wondering the same thing"
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>I can't help but wonder the race of the person stopped at the
>beginning of the video
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30. "this shit has me so fucking mad I don't even know what to say..."
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she had no business being arrested and in that jail in the first place.

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31. "My dime on the matter."
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I tried to avoid watching this video because like many of you I had seen reports about the horrific outcome regarding the suspicious death of Ms. Bland. And the video has only fueled my righteous anger even more. The fact is that the police are out of control and yes I am generalizing. I don't care if "not all police are bad" because all police know who the "bad cops" are yet they (the Good Cops) refuse to do something about their fellow officers.

If the police refuse to correct themselves then how in the hell are we suppose to feel safe about those who have taken an oath to protect and serve. The Texas police officer (The trained professional. The one who was in control) that conducted the stop broke procedure and escalated the situation beyond the limits of professionalism and respect. And he needs to be charged with everyone involved in this woman's death. And the officer's entire chain of command needs to be relieved ASAP. In addition, massive and exaggerated changes within the justice system and its police departments is badly needed so that real accountability and integrity can be established.
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35. "Bullsh*t stop to begin with. that cop escalated everything"
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cop comes barreling behind her, she moves over...he stops her for that. bullshit stop. ok, she didn't signal, give her the warning and be on your way. it's none of your business why she's irritated.

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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36. "why did she need to put out her cigarette?"
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it's not illegal to drive while smoking AFAIK.

clearly she was an uppity nigger bitch who needed to be put in her place after she'd bruised that cop's ego. fuck. that.

even if her conduct was ill-advised, the cop is a trained professional who should've handled that situation better. she gave him lip - he should've issued the warning and let her go. then he should've vented his frustration w/some other cop or w/his family or whomever. but there was no good reason for him to engage her as he did - escalating the situation. IMO he did that b/c he wanted to teach her a lesson. it's bullshit. and none of it had to happen. it could've all been avoided if the officer had acted professionally. ppl who get pulled over for traffic stops REGULARLY have bad attitudes. the cop is trained to deal w/that w/o doing what he did here.

fuck you.

  

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37. "did you peep him lying on the phone afterward? ALSO"
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he didn't mention the tazer in his report.

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40. "yeah"
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fuck you.

  

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38. "That's what gets me"
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>the cop is a trained
>professional who should've handled that situation better. she
>gave him lip - he should've issued the warning and let her go.
> then he should've vented his frustration w/some other cop or
>w/his family or whomever. but there was no good reason for
>him to engage her as he did - escalating the situation. IMO
>he did that b/c he wanted to teach her a lesson. it's
>bullshit. and none of it had to happen. it could've all been
>avoided if the officer had acted professionally. ppl who get
>pulled over for traffic stops REGULARLY have bad attitudes.
>the cop is trained to deal w/that w/o doing what he did here.

A central part of police training, as I understand it, is calmly talking through situations no matter how heated the other side gets.

They need the kind of training police get down here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSN2lQ4z2kY

^^ to me that's how you handle difficult customers. Always blow on the pie.

Just IMO though.

  

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39. "LOL @ always blow on the pie."
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WTF?

LOL

fuck you.

  

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42. "That cop was so quick on the draw"
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>WTF?
>
>LOL
>

"Safer Communities Together" was the Police slogan at the time too.

Friend of mine was also on duty during one of those shows. Unfortunately he didn't want me to upload his segment to Youtube.

He was dealing with a drunk and disorderly guy, trying to calm him down. The guy ends up apologising and my friend says "That's okay, nobody's perfect"

To which the guy immediately responds "God's perfect"

Which is perfect for my friend, who is as unreligious as it gets without being militantly atheist.

But my friend is trying to keep things calm so he comes back with "God... God is probably perfect."

He then had to sit through an impromptu rendition of Sweet Transvestite from the Rocky Horror Picture show, totally not my friend's sort of thing.

It's hilarious from a personal point because you know from knowing the guy how badly he's having to grit his teeth through all this.

But, that's what they're trained to do.

Just IMO though.

  

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43. "Exactly."
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fuck you.

  

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41. "white girl smart mouthing police officer"
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Was she arrested..?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5T2zfdxiAc

"You used to be so cool, but now, you know you're so cold"

  

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44. "^^ that's all this cop had to do."
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He handled that correctly, imo.

fuck you.

  

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47. "lol that cop was great"
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what a dumb asshole that girl is. he had every right to give her a ticket. "So why don't you ah, leave then?"

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45. "look how THS officer handles mouthing off? https://youtu.be/GXY2fImfr7Y"
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https://youtu.be/GXY2fImfr7Y

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49. "much nicer than he had to be"
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that guy he pulled over was a lunatic lol.

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51. "that's all well and good, LOL@1992, but this is the video they show"
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officers in training now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQ

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63. "In 2015, this vid would have lasted about 45 seconds"
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when the driver was dancing around, then ran at the officer, *pop pop pop* done.

(at least if they were melanin-rich)

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46. "They just uploaded a new dashcam video to prove its unedited"
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https://youtu.be/CaW09Ymr2BA

They're also claiming she admitted to a previous sucide attempt.
http://news.yahoo.com/dashcam-video-shows-confrontational-texas-traffic-stop-073250136.html

  

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48. "This would likely open the police department up to liability"
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>They're also claiming she admitted to a previous sucide
>attempt.
>http://news.yahoo.com/dashcam-video-shows-confrontational-texas-traffic-stop-073250136.html

But less liability than murder. hmm....

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50. "Even if she did commit suicide"
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its still that asshole cop's fault that she's not alive today, she never should have been in jail.

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52. "I really wish both of them would have just shut the fuck up.."
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and moved on.

She was irritated.. so what. Give her the warning and keep it moving.

You're getting a citation for an illegal lane change.. so what. Accept it and move on.

She didn't answer your questions.. so what. It's a basic traffic stop. Move on.

He asked you to put your cigarette out... so what. Put it out, get past the stop and keep smoking.

Everybody put the bullshit aside, shut the entire fuck up, and move on with your day.

Damn.

So many terrible things start from the most basic shit. It's frustrating.

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54. "agree but the cop was at work, so he was being PAID to act professionall..."
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55. "oh I agree. He was in control of the outcome of that situation."
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He had control over how it started, continued, and ended.

She was just a contributor.

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65. "^"
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

  

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60. "agreed"
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68. "He gave her the option to keep it lit. If he wanted it out."
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Say Put it OUT!

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71. "not sure what that has to do with anything."
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My point is that they were both being assholes trying to show each other that they had some level of control/authority instead of being reasonable in the interaction.

It's like if a cop pulls me over for speeding an in the midst asks me to turn my radio off. Sure, I don't have to. Sure, it has nothing to do with anything. But to get through the interaction I'm just going to turn it off. Leaving it on is doing nothing for me in that situation. Rae Sremmurd ain't helping me to get out of the ticket.

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92. "RE: not sure what that has to do with anything."
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>My point is that they were both being assholes trying to show
>each other that they had some level of control/authority
>instead of being reasonable in the interaction.
>
>It's like if a cop pulls me over for speeding an in the midst
>asks me to turn my radio off. Sure, I don't have to. Sure,
>it has nothing to do with anything. But to get through the
>interaction I'm just going to turn it off.

Well that is noise so that's an entirely different thing if you are blasting your music how can you hear me and how can i hear you? We're talking about smoking a cigarette. If there ain't not laws against me smoking a cigarette I'm not putting it out, I'm trying to keep calm over here officer.
The officer had no valid reasoning for taking her out her car the whole situation is just wrong.

You can be an asshole if you want to bro, There are no laws against it. But being a police officer you are a trained professional and the Officer is held with more responsibility to remain as such. Before you become a police officer you already know that people can be assholes so you should expect these types of encounters. People need to stop giving excuses for Police to act in this type of manner.

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101. "who is giving an excuse though? I'm not talking legal or illegal.."
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I'm talking about two adults getting through an interaction without it escalating.

Both of them had choices.

As I already mentioned, as the officer he was in control of the situation, so ultimately the interaction was his responsibility.

But my original point was that I wish that both of them would have handled it better.

If he stops probing her about her attitude, it's over in minutes.

If she put out her cigarette and chilled the fuck out, it's over in minutes.

Both of them had choices.

And to be clear, these comments are in no way connected to her eventual death. Those are just my observations about the interaction.

In my radio example, I'm not talking about it blasting, I never said that (because that would be an obvious issue). I just mean on period at a reasonable level. If for some reason he was being an ass and wanted it off, fuck it, I'll just turn it off. Some shit ain't worth debating.

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112. "RE: who is giving an excuse though? I'm not talking legal or illegal.."
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>I'm talking about two adults getting through an interaction
>without it escalating.
>
>Both of them had choices.
>
>As I already mentioned, as the officer he was in control of
>the situation, so ultimately the interaction was his
>responsibility.

Right.

>But my original point was that I wish that both of them would
>have handled it better.

She just wanted to continue smoking her cigarette. she did nothing wrong. Handled it better how? when she did nothing wrong until he yanked her out the car.

>If he stops probing her about her attitude, it's over in
>minutes.

My attitude has nothing to do with the fact that I failed to signal when changing lanes. Come on man. The attitude is irrelevant.

>If she put out her cigarette and chilled the fuck out, it's
>over in minutes.

That's why she was smoking her cigarette to calm herself down and deal with her nervousness because I'm sure she was nervous. But she was pulled out of the car for it on a failure to signal.

>Both of them had choices.

They did and the responsibility falls on the officer to make the right choice. She did nothing but decline to put out her cigarette then gets pulled out the car for it. Fuck that.

>And to be clear, these comments are in no way connected to her
>eventual death. Those are just my observations about the
>interaction.
>
>In my radio example, I'm not talking about it blasting, I
>never said that (because that would be an obvious issue). I
>just mean on period at a reasonable level. If for some reason
>he was being an ass and wanted it off, fuck it, I'll just turn
>it off. Some shit ain't worth debating.

So if you had a child in the backseat making noise crying and such is it ok for the officer to tell you to shut your kid up? Absolutely not my kid crying has nothing to do with you giving me a ticket and neither does a fucking radio that is on or cigarette that is lit. So
I have to put my cigarette out because what? cause you're a police officer?

Yeah I get it personal responsiblity is very important BUT we as American people should understand that we can't expect our citizens to not be assholes to police especially at the climate we are in now. But we can expect our Police officers to keep things in tact considering the fact that we pay their salaries. She may not have been arrested if she put out the cigarette but then again the officer could've found any other way to get her out the car and do what he did. We will never know.

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128. "I'm not willing to contribute to the unnecessary escalation of a situati..."
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just for the sake of poking my chest out. Not as an adult. As a teenager, sure I argued with errybody. But as a grown as man, I'm just trying to go in with my day.

Whether it's an officer doing it or a civilian, it's dumb and a waste of time.

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130. "RE: I'm not willing to contribute to the unnecessary escalation of a sit..."
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>just for the sake of poking my chest out. Not as an adult.
>As a teenager, sure I argued with errybody. But as a grown as
>man, I'm just trying to go in with my day.
>
>Whether it's an officer doing it or a civilian, it's dumb and
>a waste of time.
>
>Regardless of who was wrong or "wronger" that's my only point
>here.
>

I certainly can respect this. A grown man who doesn't want no problems, I get it. But you're a grown man who knows probably from experience not to get into pitty pat arguments with police because it leads to other bullshit. But that is the problem right there, American people are allowing this to happen because people don't want to stand up to the police. What about say a young 19 year old kid who thinks he/she's hot stuff and encounters the same situation. Does he or she need to be dealt with like this by the Police because they didn't want to put out a cigarette? No nobody deserves that type of treatment and shouldn't be punished for not putting out a cigarette. Instead of people looking at Sandra and saying what she did wrong, Let's point out the fact that this was a simple traffic violation and let's point out the fact that the officer had no reason to pull this woman from her car. The arrest would not have happened had he not violated her rights and pulled her from her car.

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131. "I'm not disagreeing with you, fam. I'm not assigning blame to the..."
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woman.

I'm not giving the cop an excuse.

This ain't about who "deserved" what, or punishment fitting the crime or none of that.

I'm just saying that I wish both of them made different choices.

Because so many of these incidents start with little, insignificant shit.

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56. "theres speculation she may have already been dead in her mugshot."
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57. "thats a little too much conspiracy theory even for me"
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58. "So they're saying this was taken after she appeared b4 the judge &"
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62. "^^^^^people who insist she's dead in the mugshot ignore these facts"
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She saw the judge and spoke with family and friends. They killed her AFTER they booked her.

  

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148. "I mean.. I'm not saying it's impossible that they didn't take the pic"
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when they were supposed to. They obviously don't care about doing things right.
I just wanna know what the entire theory is, and I want to be solid, because them folks
will try to use this speculation as ground to dismiss all speculation of foul play if people
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59. "i just cant."
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Im sorry guys. I am trying to rationalize this conspiracy theory. Like if someone said my best friend killed herself and had attempted suicide within the last year id know that shit wasnt true. But i also know my bestie would have complied with the cop at the beginning and disputed the ticket later.

I just cant believe everything is a lie and they were just picking on her and making an example out of her. Maybe i just dont want to believe it.


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64. "start trying to believe it. "
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98. "RE: i just cant."
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And I bet your one of the people that are saying that Bill Cosby is absolutely guilty.

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66. "everytime i see that picture it fucks me up"
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they killed that woman. THEN tried to cover it up in the most cowardly and dishonest way possible.

aaaannnddd...it shows how slick they think they are, and how stupid they think we are. i mean all the scientific discrepancies in these photos prove how STUPID they are. she hung herself and its not a mark on her neck? the prison jumpsuit in a mugshot? how does someone SIX FEET TALL hang themselves on a 5 ft wall. they're insulting our intelligence, and that infuriates me.
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149. "Lwren Scott was 6ft and killed herself on a door knob."
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67. "She's not against a wall and her arms are at different angles"
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as you can tell from her shoulders. I would imagine her hands would be at her sides if taking a mug shot, but that clearly not being a wall behind her is the most troubling.

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70. "she went before a judge and talked to family after her arrest"
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she is not dead in her mugshot

  

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72. "that looks like a floor and her shoulders indicate different angles."
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Her right arm is at about 8 and the left is at 6. I don't know the timeline, but that photo is not right. When do you get the number plaque? Is that only when going to prison?

I'm not saying she's dead in that photo, but I don't think she's standing against a wall either.

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73. "agreed"
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>Her right arm is at about 8 and the left is at 6. I don't
>know the timeline, but that photo is not right. When do you
>get the number plaque? Is that only when going to prison?
>
>I'm not saying she's dead in that photo, but I don't think
>she's standing against a wall either.


  

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82. "how can you tell its a floor and not a wall?"
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it could just be a different wall from the guy's mugshot.

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74. "its a gray background, how can you tell if its a wall or a floor?"
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79. "You can't. But people are worked up to it's gonna go that way. "
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Same way people are trying to analyze her arm angle, her shoulder symmetry and any other number of things from a grainy pic that you can't really tell anything from.
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84. "too much CSI, lol"
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88. "To be honest I can't. Her body just screams 'prone' to me here's why"
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http://oi57.tinypic.com/2enmc8i.jpg

the yellow represents stress from her garment and you'll see that the fabric lines are wide and descending suggesting the arm is out at an angle and the fabric is not bunched but spread out and more relaxed to accommodate (as opposed to the bunched fabric of the left arm).

The left arm also shows a heavy trap fold (crease) which the long yellow arrow points to. To me that's a clear indication that that arm is down and at her side as that exactly how the fabric would react.

The green lines are the neck muscles which align oddly with the center of her clavicle. The way the muscles are tensed and relaxed suggest her head is turned however she is looking straight ahead. In other words something is wrong with her neck in relation to her torso.

Her face is very clean and although she may have been sobbing extra friction has perhaps been applied to the nose the nostrils of which are very clean as well for someone who may have been emotional.

finally her eyes look glazed and there appears to be a strong shadow being projected from a light source to her right.

she may be standing but there is something very very wrong with that photo.

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90. "RE: To be honest I can't. Her body just screams 'prone' to me here's why"
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http://t.qkme.me/3pcll2.jpg

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94. "This dude said her face clean......"
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....like *blank stare*


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100. "I said to me. Just looks like it was washed."
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Her arms are however at 8 and 6. Why?

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102. "RE: I said to me. Just looks like it was washed."
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But you would have no way knowing if it was washed. You're speculating. Her face could be dirty. There's no definitive way to know.

You literally cannot see her arms, so it's speculation. She could have had one arm down, and another arm akimbo with her hand on her hip in disgust. or maybe the jail jumpsuit as is often the case is ill-fitting, so everything is not going to be symmetrical.

Look down at your own clothing right now that you are wearing? Is every wrinkle symmetrical on one side of your body as the other? Most likely not.

And all that about her neck muscles and the clavicle? C'mon, the photo is not nearly clear enough for that.

From this quality of a pic, there's no definitive way to tell in my opinion. Sure there are questions to be asked, but that's what the investigation is for.

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109. "her face isn't what convinces me. Her clothes and musculature do."
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If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

>You literally cannot see her arms, so it's speculation. She
>could have had one arm down, and another arm akimbo with her
>hand on her hip in disgust. or maybe the jail jumpsuit as is
>often the case is ill-fitting, so everything is not going to
>be symmetrical.

Okay so smoking a cigarette is not allowed but they're okay if she takes a sassy pose? The left arm is down for sure that is the only way cloth can bunch in your armpit is if the arm is down. No matter how ill-fitting-- if the other hand was down you'd see the same fold on the other side. So either they lightened up on her after manhandling her for smoking or it's being held out, or it's lying flat and out, but it is out at an angle.


>Look down at your own clothing right now that you are wearing?
>Is every wrinkle symmetrical on one side of your body as the
>other? Most likely not.

The trap folds under both my arms are pronounced and visible because my arms are at my sides.

>And all that about her neck muscles and the clavicle? C'mon,
>the photo is not nearly clear enough for that.

Turn your head right and feel your neck. You left neck muscle tenses and straightens. Turn your head left and your right neck muscle tenses and straightens. Look forward-- neither neck muscle is tense or straight. Her right neck muscle appears to be tense and straight.

>From this quality of a pic, there's no definitive way to tell
>in my opinion. Sure there are questions to be asked, but
>that's what the investigation is for.
>
>But I'mma let people cook.
>

Yup and white supremacy is for derailing investigations, so we'll see how this turns out.

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99. "You think her arms are at her sides?"
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75. "the shoulders are a dead giveaway"
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for anyone who doubts: take a picture of yourself lying down, then take a picture of yourself standing up.

the people who staged this, aside from being sick and evil, were also pretty damn stupid.

  

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76. "that alone"
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then you have gravity pulling her hair back
its like come on
use your eyes
people are taking what they've been told and making their eyes believe otherwise
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78. "why would they stage the pic?"
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considering mugshots are used for the sole purpose of identifying the detainee in police reports and jail records. why would they need to fake it? and why would they wait until after she was in custody for 3 days to take the picture when they could've taken it at any point during the prior 2 days?

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80. "i dont know."
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81. "because they didn't book her properly"
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and needed a mugshot for public record.

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89. "uhhh...because they murdered her maybe??? "
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91. "http://oi57.tinypic.com/2enmc8i.jpg"
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the yellow represents stress from her garment and you'll see that the fabric lines are wide and descending suggesting the arm is out at an angle and the fabric is not bunched but spread out and more relaxed to accommodate (as opposed to the bunched fabric of the left arm).

The left arm also shows a heavy trap fold (crease) which the long yellow arrow points to. To me that's a clear indication that that arm is down and at her side as that's exactly how the fabric would react.

The green lines are the neck muscles which align oddly with the center of her clavicle. The way the muscles are tensed and relaxed suggest her head is turned however she is looking straight ahead. In other words something is wrong with her neck in relation to her torso.

Her face is very clean and although she may have been sobbing extra friction has perhaps been applied to the nose the nostrils of which are very clean as well for someone who may have been emotional.

finally her eyes look glazed and there appears to be a strong shadow being projected from a light source to her right.

she may be standing but there is something very very wrong with that photo.

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77. "digital photos have exif data. they need to release that. "
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87. "yup. If they said she died on the 13th exit data should"
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show the photo was taken on the 10th (or whenever she was booked). Before she spoke with family and appeared in court.



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103. "That data can be manipulated though. "
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Easily is what I've heard.

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105. "they tryin to alter that shit rat nah..jus like the video"
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106. "**link to other Waller co mugshots(is that the correct co jail?) to comp..."
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69. "I'm not watching this"
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not today man.

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83. "not sure why people are coming up with excuses"
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for devils. they're getting the benefit of the doubt for some reason.
why?

  

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93. "baseless speculation about the photo is a diversion from the real FACTS...."
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she shouldn't have been there in the first place, the "arrest" was illegal, the cop LIED.

Just seeing how dumb that cop was makes it hard to believe the people he works with are smart enough to even attempt to stage this elaborate dead woman jailhouse photo with her staring directly into the camera.

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116. "but you saw that video right? You saw Scott's killer move evidence "
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Why are we assuming this is the 'by the book' precinct?

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85. "I get PISSED at Black folks like Michael Colyar for saying "She shouldn'..."
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have had such a bad attitude." Get the ENTIRE fuck outta here. From Zsa Zsa Gabor to trailerpoodle ass White women, there's a whooole whole lot of them who give much worse attitude when they're actually in the wrong. Fuck that.

Michael Colyar was the comedian for the National Bar Association event Tuesday, and he was basically telling the crowd "we need to raise our kids so they know how to deal with police, so that they don't end up dead. And we need to control our temper so we don't get killed like Sandra Bland. These situations can be avoided if you just know how to talk! I'm (sixty?) years old, and I've never been killed by police because I know how to act!" Fuck eeeeeeeeeverything he said.

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86. "I read that as, These situations can be avoided if you're a robot"
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that's all well and good

except, we're dealing with humans!

I'm going to go ahead and assume that Sandra had a long day

i.e. driving from Chicago

interviewing/accepting a new job

moving to a new city

etc...

from personal experience

when I'm exausted and/or have a schedule to keep, the last thing I have time for is folks wasting my time

cops or otherwise.

SHEEEEEIIIITTT, crazy cat lady was trying my f'n patience at the grocery store using the check out line for price checks

when does the expectation allow for us to be human beings.

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97. "For real. And I hate that ANYTHING we do has to come with a "well,"
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if you hadn't done that, you wouldn't be dead" type of tag on it. It does nothing but excuses their behavior.

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104. "Are there black sovereign citizens?"
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Can we get away with stuff?

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107. "there is no such thing as sovereign citizenship."
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but there are several ppl who believe in it and several of them are black. i've seen them in court.

bless their hearts.

fuck you.

  

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111. "RE: there is no such thing as sovereign citizenship."
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2 words

Wesley.
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113. "lol"
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fuck you.

  

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126. "Was the word "Bey" in their names?"
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127. "yes in most cases."
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to the point where i saw a 'Bey' name on a court call list once and expected a s/c and was disappointed when she wasn't actually a s/c.

fuck you.

  

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108. "perhaps not, should have....rather why didn't she?"
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110. "^ the best and most honest advice."
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115. "except she did what she was asked to do"
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that whole scenario escalated when ol' boy started asking questions

like...'what's wrong' 'you seem upset' etc...

i.e. taking your advice wouldn't have changed anything.

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117. "Do what they say only works if you hear requests as commands"
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and even then not 100% of the time.

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118. "RE: reply 86"
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sounds good if you're a robot

WE ARE NOT THE ISSUE!

it should be apparent by now that it doesn't matter what YOU do.

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119. "Hey I agree-- that cop was looking for someone to harass."
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he would have just kept picking targets until he found someone.

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114. "RE: I get PISSED at Black folks like Michael Colyar for saying "She shou..."
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>have had such a bad attitude." Get the ENTIRE fuck outta
>here. From Zsa Zsa Gabor to trailerpoodle ass White women,
>there's a whooole whole lot of them who give much worse
>attitude when they're actually in the wrong. Fuck that.
>
>Michael Colyar was the comedian for the National Bar
>Association event Tuesday, and he was basically telling the
>crowd "we need to raise our kids so they know how to deal with
>police, so that they don't end up dead. And we need to control
>our temper so we don't get killed like Sandra Bland. These
>situations can be avoided if you just know how to talk! I'm
>(sixty?) years old, and I've never been killed by police
>because I know how to act!" Fuck eeeeeeeeeverything he said.


On god! Fuck that nigga for that!

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121. "Like we don't get harassed when we have a good attitude..."
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Or if we wear suits instead of hip hop clothing, we won't be harassed. Or if we get jobs. Or speak "properly." Or follow the law. Or take care of our children. Or be good neighbors. Or be well-read. Or...


None of that shit matters in terms of how we are treated by "the system" in America, and probably the greater world.

  

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120. "DA speaks... Bullshit"
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Now they are showing her body from the autopsy to the press.
They've already said she had weed in her system. They spent the majority of the time speculating how she could have had weed in her system 3 days later. They speculated that she either smuggled weed in the jail ormust have smoked copious amounts before her arrest. He reiterated it was pure speculation after musing on it for 20 minutes. They also said her hands were clean and that the only bruises where from her resisting arrest, no defensive wounds. : /
Question... If you were hung while hung while handcuffed why would you have defensive wounds and how would you be able to struggle?
They seem to be implying she was a cutter and had 30 cut marks on her arm. The thing is they are saying there were no signs of a violent struggle.

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135. "shit stays in your system for months"
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women have higher body fat than men it can stay way longer at higher levels trust


thats the dumbessst thing ive ever heard,weed in your system 3 days later



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140. "They are saying the private autopsy showed she ingested it "
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While in custody. That was an early version of the story I saw.

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142. "ah "
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guess i can see that??

  

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123. "One hypothetical that fits, IMO. hematoma"
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I briefly worked in TBI, and one (one of many), one story that stuck with me

because ol' boy was my age and just out shooting the shit w/his friends

ol' boy gets into a bar fight

I don't remember specifically if it was getting punched, or the fall and hitting his head

but anyway

him and his homies continue their night

drinking beers, etc...

and it isn't until a good amount of time had passed, early morning the next day

that his friends notice his speech pattern is slurred, and he eventually passes out

and falls into a coma

so the hematoma was building and swelling over that period of time

and the symptoms didn't manifest until a long period of time had passed

in Sandra's case, that is the hypothetical that comes to mind

the cop slammed her head into the ground and she doesn't manifest symptoms until a long period of time has passed

they find her in a coma

and now they're backtracking trying to make everything look legit

or at least, make it look like they aren't liable

suicide
edited video
manipulated mugshot

you follow?

I don't think they've released the actual autopsy report

but it's strange that aren't reporting any head injury

when she clearly stated that on the video.

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124. "I agree"
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I think they banged her head on the ground, she shouts I'm epileptic. After head injuries trama and stress she ended up dying. Now whether she had a seizure and died due to the head injury or she had a hematoma directly caused by being slammed on the ground, I don't know but she died as a direct result of them injuring her and then they hung her up to try to cover it up what they did.
She requested medical assistance on the scene and then say she rejected it. Doesn't make much sense.
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125. ":-/"
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156. "Right"
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160. "It's also starting to feel alot like Ferguson IRT the information being"
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leaked

the ferguson DA obviously executed a strategy to overwhelm the public and jurors with valid and false evidence

in order to conflict all possible narratives = no idictment

part of a report that I read stated it was a justic of the peace that concluded it was a suicide

based on a mark on her neck

and 'plastic hanging from somewhere'

that is to say

wouldn't there be/shouldn't there be photos of the scene

i'm wondering what the SOP is for an inmate's death

whether suicide or otherwise

i can't imagine why this wasn't treated like a crime scene

i.e. it'd be real easy to dispell these assumptions with a photo/evidence.

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129. "RE: Sandra Bland dash cam video"
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Pure speculation but riffing of bentagain above talking about TBI

http://www.msktc.org/tbi/factsheets/Seizures-After-Traumatic-Brain-Injury

and

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1187111-overview

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132. "Officer Brian Encinia, is under a criminal probe LINK "
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/trooper-in-sandra-bland-case-is-under-criminal-probe-1437589219


Trooper in Sandra Bland Case Is Under Criminal Probe
Texas district attorney investigating Brian Encinia in arrest of black woman who was found dead in her jail cell days later
The Texas Department of Public Safety has published the full police dashcam video showing the arrest of Sandra Bland, who died three days later in a police cell. Photo/Video: Texas Department of Public Safety
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Updated July 22, 2015 7:16 p.m. ET
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A Texas district attorney said Wednesday that he has opened a criminal investigation into the arrest of Sandra Bland, the black woman who was pulled over and taken into custody after a traffic stop this month and was found dead in a jail cell three days later.

Ms. Bland, 28 years old, was arrested for allegedly assaulting a public servant on July 10, after she was pulled over by Texas highway patrol trooper Brian Encinia for allegedly failing to signal that she was changing lanes in Waller County, about 60 miles northwest of Houston.

A dash-cam video of the arrest released Tuesday showed tensions quickly escalated after the stop, with Ms. Bland becoming angry at being pulled over for a minor violation and Mr. Encinia threatening to use what appeared to be a stun gun on her if she didn’t exit the vehicle.

In an interview Wednesday, Waller County District Attorney Elton Mathis said he is investigating whether Mr. Encinia violated any criminal laws. “I didn’t like what I saw when I saw the video of the trooper’s actions, but I’ll reserve judgment,” Mr. Mathis said.

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The family of Sandra Bland, who allegedly hanged herself in a police cell, have called for a Justice Department probe, and an independent autopsy has been ordered.
The Texas Department of Public Safety didn’t respond to a request for comment about the investigation, and the trooper couldn’t be located. It wasn’t clear if he had a lawyer.

Mr. Encinia, 30, has been “removed from street duty” pending investigation, Steven McCraw, the department’s director, said Tuesday. The agency earlier said Mr. Encinia was assigned administrative responsibilities.

In an arrest affidavit prepared by Mr. Encinia, which was released Tuesday by the county district attorney’s office, he said Ms. Bland was “combative and uncooperative” and swung her elbows at him. He didn’t mention threatening to use his stun gun.

It wasn’t clear what, if any, charges Mr. Encinia could face as a result of a probe. Susan Klein, a professor at the University of Texas School of Law, said that while Mr. Encinia might have exhibited poor judgment during the arrest, she had seen no evidence to indicate he violated a criminal law.

Ms. Bland was found dead in a Hempstead, Texas, jail cell on July 13. She was still in custody three days after her arrest because she hadn’t posted bail, set at $5,000, the county sheriff’s office said.

Authorities initially ruled her death a suicide, saying she appeared to have hanged herself.

Protesters gathered this week outside the jail in Waller County, Texas, where Sandra Bland, 28, was found dead in her cell July 13. ENLARGE
Protesters gathered this week outside the jail in Waller County, Texas, where Sandra Bland, 28, was found dead in her cell July 13. PHOTO: KAREN WARREN/HOUSTON CHRONICLE/ASSOCIATED PRESS
The county district attorney’s office late Wednesday released a “suicide assessment” of Ms. Bland when she was booked into jail. According to the one-page form, Ms. Bland allegedly reported having attempted suicide by taking pills earlier this year after she lost a baby. Still, the form said that neither the arresting officer nor any other person believed Ms. Bland was a suicide risk.

Her family and friends have sharply questioned suggestions that she took her own life and have pursued an independent autopsy.

Cannon Lambert, a lawyer who is representing Ms. Bland’s family, said her relatives have returned home to Illinois with her body, and plan to hold a service for her Saturday. Her family “was fortunate enough to fly home with Sandy, who was transported on the same flight,” he said via text message.

Mr. Mathis earlier this week opened a separate probe into the death, which he has said is being treated as a murder investigation. The district attorney said he would conduct a thorough investigation and present the facts to a grand jury in Waller County to determine whether it was a suicide or homicide.

“If it’s a suspicious death, even if we believe it’s a suicide, we’ll take that to a grand jury so that there can be an open and honest discussion about that person’s life,” Mr. Mathis said in an interview Wednesday.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation said it is assisting with the local probe into Ms. Bland’s death and would review the evidence it generates to see if any federal laws were violated.

The Texas Rangers have also launched a state investigation into the case, including Ms. Bland’s treatment in jail as well as the circumstances of her traffic arrest.

Jail staff found Ms. Bland hanging from a privacy partition in her cell, according to Waller County Sheriff R. Glenn Smith. Earlier this week, he told reporters that evidence indicates Ms. Bland appeared to have used a plastic trash liner to hang herself. The sheriff said his office would work on improving jail conditions and had removed plastic trash liners from all cells.

A woman places flowers Tuesday at a memorial for Sandra Bland near Prairie View A&M University in Texas.
A woman places flowers Tuesday at a memorial for Sandra Bland near Prairie View A&M University in Texas. PHOTO: PAT SULLIVAN/ASSOCIATED PRESS
A special state inspection of Waller County Jail three days after Ms. Bland’s death revealed that staff failed to check on inmates at least once an hour, as mandated by jail policies.

The Texas Commission on Jail Standards, which conducted the probe, also found that county officials didn’t have any documentation proving that jailers completed required training on how to identify and handle inmates who are mentally disabled or potentially suicidal.

In separate inspections over the past five years, the commission found several infractions at the jail, from missing fire and kitchen inspections to failing to secure doors, allowing an inmate to escape.

The jail had also failed to conduct hourly face-to-face observations once before, in November 2012, according to an inspection report.

The county sheriff’s office said last week that it had no reason to believe the infractions cited by the Texas jail agency “had any part in the death of Ms. Bland.”

The case has generated a passionate response on social media, underscoring the newly charged scrutiny of police conduct involving minorities, nearly one year after the shooting death of a young black man by a police officer in Ferguson, Mo., ignited racial tension and rioting.

Ms. Bland had been part of that social conversation earlier this year, posting on Facebook a series of videos titled “Sandy Speaks” expressing her views on alleged police misconduct and other issues affecting African-Americans.

The Chicago-area native, who had graduated from Texas’ Prairie View A&M University in 2009, had moved to Illinois but was returning to the Texas school, which had offered her a job, when she was arrested.

“She was elated and making plans to be here for a while,” said LaVaughn Mosley, a friend and mentor of Ms. Bland’s in Texas, adding that she was interested in pursuing a master’s degree at the school related to nutrition, a field she had long been interested in.

“This was not characteristic of someone who wanted to kill herself,” he said.

Mr. Mosley added that he met Ms. Bland about a decade ago, when she started attending Prairie View A&M and worked with him at a 4-H summer camp for inner city youth. He described her as having a deep passion for social justice and issues of racial inequality.

Mr. Mosley said that Ms. Bland had called him from jail on the day of the arrest and explained that she wouldn’t be able to see a judge until the following day.

“She said ‘I was arrested. It was a traffic stop and the officer said I assaulted him, and I didn’t,’ ” Mr. Mosley recalled.

That Saturday, Mr. Mosley said he missed two calls from Ms. Bland. He subsequently called the jail and was told her bond had been set at $5,000.

The dash-cam video of the arrest released Tuesday inflamed tensions surrounding the case, which had initially focused more on the circumstances of Ms. Bland’s death.

The footage shows Mr. Encinia asking Ms. Bland to extinguish a cigarette, and Ms. Bland questioning his right to request that. It then shows Mr. Encinia demanding that she get out of the car, and threatening her with what looked to be a stun gun if she didn’t comply. She eventually exits the car.

Off camera, the two continue to exchange words and Ms. Bland complains that she has been roughly taken to the ground. She adds that she cannot wait to take him to court.

Adding to the debate over the video, some of those who initially viewed it online noticed it appeared to have been edited because it showed the same car and person passing several times. A Department of Public Safety spokesman said the video had not been edited but was “affected in the upload.” The agency subsequently posted a new version Wednesday that didn’t have the glitches.

Mr. Encinia joined the Department of Public safety in January 2014, an agency spokesman said. Previously, he had served as a volunteer at the Brenham, Texas, fire department for four years, according to Brenham Fire Chief Ricky Boeker.
“He was an excellent firefighter,” Mr. Boeker said. “He was well liked, and we did not have any issues with him.”

Texas state Sen. Royce West, center, speaks, flanked by Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, second from left, during a news conference Tuesday following a meeting related to Ms. Bland’s death.
Texas state Sen. Royce West, center, speaks, flanked by Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, second from left, during a news conference Tuesday following a meeting related to Ms. Bland’s death. PHOTO: PAT SULLIVAN/ASSOCIATED PRESS
Texas officials, including Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick and several Texas state senators, met Tuesday with Ms. Bland’s family and their lawyer at Prairie View A&M.

State Sen. Royce West, a Democrat who attended the meeting, said he was troubled by the arrest. “Sandra Bland didn’t deserve to be taken into custody,” he said.

Mr. Patrick, a Republican, said no conclusions could be reached about the arrest or Ms. Bland’s subsequent death in jail until all the facts are known.

“We are going to take very careful steps so there is no rush to judgment,” he said.

—Dan Frosch contributed to this article.

Write to Nathan Koppel at nathan.koppel@wsj.com and Ana Campoy at ana.campoy@wsj.com
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133. "I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think foul play"
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A lot of people seem like they are so sure that she was murdered. But what is this based on? What particular fact in the case points to murder?
The only info I have about this is situation is the dash cam vid, the jail vid, and people's statements about her.
None of what I've seen would lead to believe she as murdered.

I mean, it's possible. Especially given the area this took place in. But it seems like so many are too easily convinced,
and there is nothing in the world that can change their mind.
And understandably so given recent events.

The main thing I see people on facebook latching on to is the opinion that there is no way that this woman would ever kill herself. How would you know that?
So many suicides catch family and friends by total surprise.

On a related note, there was another jail suicide close by in Houston. The reporter in the video made sure to put extra emphasis that he was an Asian man.
But should we automatically assume foul play here?

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2015/07/23/inmate-found-dead-inside-downtown-houston-jail/30583099/

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139. "The poorly edited video that went up then down is not a red flag?"
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Disappearing cars and what not. That's fair and it may very well be possible that she's not dead or otherwise comatose in that photo even though her arms are at odd angles based on the angles her shoulders are at and the distinct folds in her jumpsuit.

There's also the fact that we've seen on video cops tampering with evidence, murdering suspects, and having other officers act totally complicit. So to scratch ones head as if to say "gee I don't know I guess it's possible" seems like rather lukewarm thinking in regard to what we now have seen demonstrated.

Who commits suicide the day before their release knowing they can sue the police for huge sums?

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143. "Her death and what happened during the stop are independent events"
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Maybe it was just a recording glitch in the video. Or maybe the officer did/said something he shouldn't have and edited the video.
Either way, it's not important to me in regards to her death.

It's clear the cop acted very inappropriately. But the fact is, she made to the jail alive.
What happened at the jail is what I am interested in.

The theory that she is dead in the mugshot is ridiculous to me and not very believable. People are analyzing the way her locks are hanging, how her shoulders are leaning, eyes are crossed, etc. Basically working extra hard to convince themselves that what they want to find is actually there.

First I don't know what they are seeing in the pic, but she looks alive to me. It just looks like an upset woman to me.
Secondly, she died on her third day in jail. They taking booking photos on your arrival. Did someone forget? It's not like the arrest was kept off the books.

I'm not saying she wasn't murdered. I'm saying that there is nothing out there to lead me to believe she was murdered.
Contrast that with the many folks I see on FB and Twitter who are 100% certain she was murdered.

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Someone with depression. Being in jail for three days can fuck with you even if you aren't depressed.

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144. "RE: They taking booking photos on your arrival"
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which alot of folks are overlooking

if she was photographed at booking

why is she in orange counties?

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145. "If I told you there are other booking photos with orange jump suits..."
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would you believe me?

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146. "RE: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/?page=1"
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http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/?page=1

if I told you there were a handful of recent cases of citizens arrested for minor offenses committing suicide in police custody

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147. "RE: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/?page=1"
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http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/Chaun-Edward-Prine.66961758.html
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/Mark-Stephen-Moon.66961674.html
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/Leroy-Livingston-Jr.66961603.html
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/Raymond-A-Hefelfinger-Jr.66961489.html
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Waller-County-TX/John-Austin-Garrett-Jr.66961396.html

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163. "based on there being other photos in each of those references"
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do you think they are in counties because that photo was taken when they were already in custody?

i.e. the other photos were taken at booking

and the counties photo is a later pic?

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153. "I understand a lot of what you're saying and don't fault your stance"
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The photo may or may not have been tampered with, there's nothing concrete enough to say she is alive or dead in it.

I'm still suspect of that video, file size can be ruled out because it's youtube which has size limits. I've uploaded a lot of videos and have not had any errors that look like edits. If there is an error the whole video is unwatchable. That has been my experience with youtube errors I'm not sure how the police account would handle them differently.

I just have a hard time understanding nor will I ever really understand how there can be any trust of an organization that we now have visual proof of being willing to quickly engage in acts of wrongdoing to cover up murder i.e. Walter Scott.

One would have to believe those event are rare to non existent in order to trust that it's unlikely foul play is at work in this particular precinct.

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154. "Same. I don't think its foul play. I do think they fucked this up"
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from the second they pulled her over until the moment she died. Saying she was on drugs. Saying she told the jailer she attempted suicide before (if thats the case why werent they checking up on her?). We aren't going to even touch the fugazi reason for the arrest.

In 2015 police/community relations have dissolved to the fact that when something like this happens the popular opinion is, "THE POLICE DID IT", lol

  

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134. " ‘Character Assassination’ of Sandra Bland"
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-tx-judge-goes-off-on-character-assassination-of-sandra-bland/

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That shit says a lot.. SMH

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138. "He is 100% about driving through that area"
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Those small East Texas are scary as hell. People think of places like Mississippi or Alabama as being racist.
They don't have anything on the Golden Triangle region (Beaumont, Port Arthur, Orange)

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Yup, you black and rolling through a small town with out of state plates, guaranteed to get stopped by the police..

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150. "aww man i went to school for a lil while in th GT..beaumont"
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no fucking joke...ask about vidor...the most inbred racist town ive ever seen in my life,,,a true sundown town..

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155. "This new video of her supposedly being dragged lifeless from the cruiser"
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Is this a joke that people arent catching?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNpWlhGHABQ
Its all over facebook and people are eating it up. Unless Im missing something..
She was obtained by a state trooper in Texas but the car in the video says Tampa.
She had on a dress in the dash cam video
How are people not noticing this?

This is really who it is.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/24589789/2014/01/30/video-shows-tpd-officer-dragging-homeless-woman

  

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162. "And there is all this record of her being alive in jail. I think her "
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people talked to her even.

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159. "u can get arrested for resisting arrest yet not told why ur arrested???"
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first you have to be in the process of being ARRESTED for something else before you can resist THAT arrest, no? so, if that's the case she was being arrested for failing to signal?

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failure to comply with a lawful order, etc...

also unfortunate is that it is really unclear what our rights are

but a case that was referenced IRT her arrest was pennsylvania vs mimms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_v._Mimms

= when you get pulled over cops can ask you to step out of your car.

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but to resist arrest by definition means you're being arrest for something else, no?

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that his discretion is something that you are doing is a threat, your right to do that certain thing can go out of the window. The officers discretion could be bs tho, but youu have to follow his lawful order.

So all the officer really needs to say after the fact is that whatever youu were doing he perceived as a threat and gave you a lawful order to do/or stop doing something

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If he wanted her to put it out he could have ordered her. Instead he hides the order with the "would you?" giving the illusion of choice. So she naturally responds "why?". Now that she's confused about the nature of the request he manipulates her.

A lawful order can't proceed from an unlawful one. His motivations are clearly not based on law enforcement and any command issued from after his set up can be deemed unlawful as it stems from unlawful motivations.

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173. "You're talking semantics, I'm telling you the legal ground he had for"
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asking her to step out of the car

I'm not arguing that he didn't escalate the situation, shouldn't have extended the stop, etc...

sheeeeiiiittt

I'm not even arguing fam

the legal case I cited is what that officer will use to defend his actions

IF HE'S EVEN CHARGED WITH ANYTHING!

I would also assume, as we saw in Ferguson

the officer will probably also incoporate the weed in her system for justifying the search

yeah, I know it's BS

we also have watched video tapes of citizens being murdered by police result in not even being charged

I've also seen former Justice of the Peace, DeWayne Charleston speaking on the history of racism in Waller County

= last county in the US to abolish slavery

segregated cemetaries

hospitals

etc...

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/7/27/sandra_bland_laid_to_rest_first

I also read somewhere that Waller County had the highest number of recorded lynchings in the US

although I did read another report that conflicted that, and walked it back to 3rd most in TX

so maybe that first number was most per capita, IDK

anyway, DeWayne shed some insight into the DA's record

i.e. with legal ground to stand on = no indictment in Waller County

There are rumblings about Loretta Lynch getting involved

but short of an official DOJ investigation

I don't think any legal penalties will be levied against the officer

short of finding a smoking gun.

The reason I posted that case was because I didn't know that

and assumed he had no right to even ask to step out of the car

but that case establishes that right during a traffic stop

it's f'd up that it's so confusing to even know what our rights are

and I think even Sandra asssumed he couldn't ask her to step out

I'm just telling you he could, and THEY CAN.

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being purposely (or even accidentally) flawed. My point being that even though arguing semantics it's fair because "would you mind" is not a command across the nation. If it is in fact a proper command it is only so in the South. Bland is from Chicago. I'm guessing that the Chi Town police aren't asking anyone if they mind anything.

Would you mind putting your hands behind your back?

Would you mind coming out with your hands up?

If there was anything legal about what had happened the arrest would not be cited as being illegal.

However in the end we are discussing a system created because of the existence of black people in the first place so it really doesn't matter if the officer was or was not "legally" justified.

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bentagain
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175. "I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think they are even going to charge"
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the officer

poor judgement, yes

I just wouldn't expect a charge behind it is all

"However in the end we are discussing a system created because of the existence of black people in the first place so it really doesn't matter if the officer was or was not "legally" justified."

and from my understanding to even prove that, systemic racism, is a heavy burden

they literally have to call you a nigger while they murder you

http://mic.com/articles/122311/the-police-killing-of-a-black-man-in-mississippi-just-took-another-disturbing-turn

not to say that doesn't happen though.

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168. "RE: Activist Found Dead In Jail Cell After Traffic Fine Arrest"
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http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/07/native-american-found-in-jail-after-traffic-fine-arrest/

yeah, just sayin'

WTF!?

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169. "This is why I don't give two fucks when cops are murdered. "
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And never will.

It's also why I don't give two fucks about their families grief when someone plugs one of these pigs.

Lawful order my ass, he had NO FUCKING REASON to issue that order to begin with.

EVERYTHING ABOUT THE THE DASH CAM VIDEO SHOWS THIS PILE OF SHIT ON A POWER TRIP.

Nobody seems to be talking about her initial issue, which this maniac tailgating her to begin the whole thing.

So what we have is a power tripping pig agitated someone, getting a reaction, and using that reaction to justify each successive act of escalation.

He created that shit. He threw gas on a fire that was barely lit to begin with.

The more these videos come out and the more the layers get peeled back and we see deeper into the situation, the more apparent to me that so much of the barrel is rotten there's no reason to believe a goddamn word any of them say. When i see shit like how the sheriff in this case- the one who said every suicide he deals with has friends and relatives who cling to conspiracy theories and refuse to believe their loved one committed suicide- was previously fired for racism, I care less and less about the lives, safety, and general well being of a group of people that consistently take more authority while desiring as little oversight and accountability in the process.

  

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170. "..."
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176. "any timeline on the independent autopsy?"
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