Granted, these incidents are very real.

Granted, these incidents deserve serious attention AND action.

HOWEVER....

My issue is with people who all of a sudden get into a panic like...

"How an I supposed to drive down the street without being in fear of getting pulled over????"

"What am I supposed to tell my children???"

"They are killing us!! What is we gon' do???"

Ummm what??

Mind you, I'm from Baltimore. i.e. The place where this happened: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/3-indicted-in-brutal-rape-killing-of-baltimore-teen/

And this just happened this week: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-juvenile-shooting-20150722-story.html

People pass by fatal car accidents every other day on 95 and 695, yet continue texting while driving, recording instagram videos while driving, and driving confidently to and from work every day.

Yet every few months when there is a police-involved incident, people are all of a sudden "afraid for their lives".

Stop.

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that's the point of terrorism.
you don't try to kill everybody.

you use a series of random attacks that keep everybody on edge, to the point where they no longer feel comfortable in their own environment.

remember how white ppl got scared after 9/11?

even though the odds of them dying in a terrorists attack were 0?

same principle.



I agree that we could do better at processing that fear.

but dismissing it because the fear is irrational overlooks the fact that Black folks
are dealing with the psychological affects of terrorism.


I am sure you can phrase your point in a less inflamatory way, if you try.


do you want to edit your OP?

we can start this conversation off in a better way.

When you look at white people's response to 9/11, one could argue that it was a shock to their lives, as it:

A - Exposed a national vulnerability that had never been exposed before on that level

B - Was an event that took the lives of nearly 3,000 people at once

C - Many people lived privileged lives free of that sort of tragedy up to that point.

While the response of many black people was:

"Niggaz die everyday, b"

So if we see these types of incidents with some level of frequency, and experience homicide of our people at an even higher level of frequency, how does that compare?

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many whites were irrationally afraid of muslims because the violence affected ppl that looked like them.

many Blacks were indifferent because we didn't identify with the world trade center and the pentagon.



sorta like many whites were indifferent to police brutality,
and don't understand our irrational fear of cops.


i fail to see the difference.

random, targeted violence leads to paranoia to other ppl that identify with the folks that got got.


ppl have used this tactic ever since war was invented.

i dunno why you are acting like this is a Black thing,
or pretending to not understand the irrational fear.

we can and should process it better. but it looks like humans being human to me.

why do you disagree?

than a plane being hijacked and killing 3,000 people.

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look at how many ppl are in this country.

look at how many of them have lived and died without being killed or hurt by a terrorists.

3000 ppl dying of terrorism is a tragedy, but this is an exceptionally safe country.



similarly, the vast majority of Black ppl's interaction with police go fine.

maybe you get a ticket.
maybe you get a warning.
maybe they walk by you and say nothing at all.

that happens a lot.


every Black person murdered by polie is a tragedy, but we still live in a safe country.



but- from a psychological perspective- it's a mindfuck.


will THAT muslim hijack the plane?

will THAT cop shoot me dead?

sure, the last 100 times a cop walked by me things went fine.
but you never know. because, terrorism.



why do you think ppl use guerilla warfare tactics?

maybe because they work?

it's an excellent way to keep folks in line.

that's human nature.
we can change our reaction,
but irrational fear is a natural reaction.

are you still going to pretend that irrational fear is not a natural reaction to a fucked up event?

why are you framing the post this way?


>than a plan being hijacked and killing 3,000 people.

few months.

Meanwhile, in Baltimore specifically, women and children are currently being murdered at a rate greater than what we have seen in 20yrs.

Meanwhile, people are dying younger and younger of disease. One of my friends from middle school just had a double mastectomy and is going through chemo. Another died of heart failure.

That should be equally if not more shocking.

Yet we move right on by that, and get all crazy over this.

We normalize what we choose to normalize.

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but statistically, you are more likely to get struck by lightning than die by terrorist attack.

that doesn't change the emotional impact, of course.

still- in the grand scheme,
Americans are relatively safe from terrorist attack.

but we still get irrationally afraid of terrorism because it's terrorism.

it's designed to create an irrational fear.

>When you look at white people's response to 9/11, one could
>argue that it was a shock to their lives, as it:

>A - Exposed a national vulnerability that had never been
>exposed before on that level

Pearl Harbor did this already as did the sinking of the Lusitania. So what is being illustrated here?

>B - Was an event that took the lives of nearly 3,000 people at
>once

It's not a contest but Pearl Harbor took 2,500

>C - Many people lived privileged lives free of that sort of
>tragedy up to that point.

This is not true based on the response to A.

>While the response of many black people was:
>
>"Niggaz die everyday, b"

Perhaps for this one tragedy, but among which age groups etc? However, in light of Pearl Harbor and the Lusitania do you believe that response to be consistent?

>So if we see these types of incidents with some level of
>frequency, and experience homicide of our people at an even
>higher level of frequency, how does that compare?

You should provide stats on the rate at which black people kill each other if you want to make that comparison. Also the killing of black people by black people is not equal to sanctioned killing of black people by law enforcement. Killers and criminals are not sworn to protect anyone (assuming swearing means something).

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impacted by 9/11. What is YOUR point.

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with sudden and unexpected acts of aggression to dispel all of those points. People were not any more on edge now than they were then.

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the fear that THE POLICE WILL GET AWAY WITH IT.

w/those other crimes we have at least some security - if private citizens act badly against us we have more hope that the police will investigate and if the criminal is found the justice system will prosecute. there are bad guys out there but the good guys are working to keep them in check. when the police are the bad guys - it's like we have no safe place. no security. no quarter.

this is pretty obvious stuff. i won't make another serious reply in this post. it's not worthy.

That only matters to those left behind.

The fear being stated is of dying period.

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>that's the point of terrorism.
>you don't try to kill everybody.
>
>you use a series of random attacks that keep everybody on
>edge, to the point where they no longer feel comfortable in
>their own environment.
>
>remember how white ppl got scared after 9/11?
>
>even though the odds of them dying in a terrorists attack were
>0?
>
>same principle.
>
>
>
>I agree that we could do better at processing that fear.
>
>but dismissing it because the fear is irrational overlooks the
>fact that Black folks
>are dealing with the psychological affects of terrorism.
>
>
>I am sure you can phrase your point in a less inflamatory way,
>if you try.
>
>
>do you want to edit your OP?
>
>we can start this conversation off in a better way.
>
>

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ain't shit we could do.

can't jump on a car, climb a tree or run from a pack of squirrels

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Considering I've been harassed by the policy multiple times, and a couple of times a gun has been drawn on me.

You don't have to be afraid, but I'll be nervous everytime

Being cautious and even afraid when interacting with the police is very rational behavior.

What the OP is talking about is the hysteria on social media where you see people saying ish like

"How an I supposed to drive down the street without being in fear of getting pulled over????"

"What am I supposed to tell my children???"

"They are killing us!! What is we gon' do???"



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I mean given the history and what not.

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I had a gun pulled out on me when I was 24 as I was walking with some friends after coming back from a party on some "they fit description" shit (a liquor store was robbed a few blocks down)....

And recently I was stopped coming from work in Brooklyn by cops who wanted to know if I FOR REAL lived in the area....

I got other stories like that, dog...

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odds are, i can maneuver through the streets of Baltimore every day and encounter several police officers. none of which will kill me. that's possible because i've been doing it for a while now.

BUT

when i think about the word irrational, i'm thinking about something that seems out of the realm of possibility.

any encounter with the police could result in my death. that's real. whether i'm armed or unarmed, resisting or complying, breaking or following the law. i could wearing a suit and carrying my briefcase or in jeans & some air max. late at night or in broad daylight.

any encounter with the police could result in my death.

and you'd read about it...possibly. and when you did, it would not register the amount of shock that you would think a person's death would warrant. the cops kill so many people so often that it's no longer out of the realm of possibility.

remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLIJZhyF710

that shocked me more than any of the high profile police murders i've seen since then.

to fear being killed by a police officer more than a drunk or distracted driver.

Or to fear contracting or being diagnosed with a disease.

I use irrational because youth under 25 are being killed daily by people not in uniform, and this can happen regularly no more than 10min away from where most people live, yet we're more afraid of the police, based on stories that occur 2,000 miles away (not saying that police incidents don't occur in Baltimore, just speaking of national headlines).

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Annually more people are killed by cows then are killed by sharks, but people are generally fearful of sharks than cows. Is that irrational?

It would be if you lived on a dairy farm and never went to the ocean.

But not if you were in the ocean where sharks live.

If a black person is in a situation interacting with the cops I don't think it is irrational to be fearful of them since we know a disproportionate amount of bad shit cops do to people happen to black people.


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"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

>Annually more people are killed by cows then are killed by
>sharks, but people are generally fearful of sharks than cows.
>Is that irrational?
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>It would be if you lived on a dairy farm and never went to the
>ocean.
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>But not if you were in the ocean where sharks live.
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That's not a good example because we live in a place where there a multiple causes of death of black people that are greater than being at the hands of police.

>If a black person is in a situation interacting with the cops
>I don't think it is irrational to be fearful of them since we
>know a disproportionate amount of bad shit cops do to people
>happen to black people.
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It's not irrational in that moment, no. But I'm not saying that.

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To you Darryl? Jazz gave an excellent reply and it is the same thing.

Criminals are not supposed to uphold the law. They are not sworn to enforce or protect it. Police officers are-- and when crime happens they show up.

They (the police) also commit crimes and against blacks people at a higher rate. Their targeting of black folks is irrational as it can be any black person as we've seen. We've also seen police tamper with evidence and support that tampering all while the entire entity called "law enforcement" says nothing about the wrongdoing thus supporting all crooked cops.

The fear of police brutality is no less irrational then the fear of being robbed or shot in your own neighborhood by your own ethnic group.

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