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" SC Resource Officer Slams (female) Student"


  

          

Crazy thing about it, the male teacher does nothing smh.

http://www.wistv.com/story/30353999/video-shows-confrontation-between-spring-valley-student-and-school-resource-officer

  

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I'm pretty sure he probably called the officer to get her out of his cla...
Oct 26th 2015
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I'm pretty sure he didn't call him to manhandle her ass.
Oct 26th 2015
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Student who filmed it speaks out
Oct 27th 2015
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so...how do you remove a disruptive student from a desk?
Oct 27th 2015
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valid questions...
Oct 27th 2015
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Anytime you physically touch a student you lost
Oct 27th 2015
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so your solution is talking but from a different angle, ok.
Oct 27th 2015
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Yup. Im right too.
Oct 27th 2015
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      ok? be right nigga, no one said you wasnt, LOL
Oct 27th 2015
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      f'reals...that was just a lil girl being a lil girl...gettin smart
Oct 27th 2015
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      I've been in literally this *exact* scenario.
Oct 27th 2015
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           What do/did you do?
Oct 27th 2015
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                I addressed it calmly.
Oct 27th 2015
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                ^^^^^post should end here folks
Oct 27th 2015
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                RE: I addressed it calmly.
Oct 28th 2015
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                ^^^ this. the teacher, and cop unnecessarily escalated the
Oct 28th 2015
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                RE: What do/did you do?
Oct 27th 2015
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                     This does play a large part. Can you get kids to like your class?
Oct 27th 2015
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                          ^^^^^
Oct 28th 2015
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this seems more about bruised egos than anything.
Oct 27th 2015
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they say the officer has had racial complaints before
Oct 27th 2015
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      the cop wouldn't have gotten called if (Fill in the blank)
Oct 28th 2015
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           the cop wouldn't have gotten called if the teacher and admin hadn't
Oct 28th 2015
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                Overreacted? Like the girl who ignored 3 authority figures?
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                     the girl didn't 'overreact'. she misbehaved.
Oct 28th 2015
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                          She would have been punished appropriately if she LEFT
Oct 28th 2015
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                               there was no need for her to leave the classroom or be forcibly removed...
Oct 28th 2015
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                               There wouldn't be a cop if she took orders from teachers/admin
Oct 28th 2015
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                                    RE: There wouldn't be a cop if she took orders from teachers/admin
Oct 28th 2015
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                               Polic should not be in schools in the first place
Oct 28th 2015
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My old teachers would of did the same thing
Oct 27th 2015
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      they also WOULD'VE cringed at your use of 'would of'
Oct 27th 2015
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           http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WbKpMjrNJm4/hqdefault.jpg
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                ...
Oct 27th 2015
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You discipline them after class. Simple and plain.
Oct 27th 2015
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RE:
Oct 27th 2015
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its like they already decided the set consequences for
Oct 27th 2015
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Exactly, I never gave any student enough power to disrupt class...
Oct 28th 2015
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i would've left the room with the rest of my class.
Oct 27th 2015
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What do you do? How 'bout call her parent(s) or guardian?
Oct 27th 2015
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Slowly start tipping the desk until they're forced to get up or fall.
Oct 27th 2015
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You don't
Oct 28th 2015
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      the question doesnt say her actions warranted anything
Oct 28th 2015
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           Your question was so shockingly dumb for an adult
Oct 29th 2015
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                bitch if i wanted to blame the girl i would, get over yourself
Oct 29th 2015
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                     YOU STEPPED WAY OVER THE LINE WIT THAT ONE
Oct 29th 2015
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                     You're loud and wrong you Uncle Tom piece of shit
Oct 29th 2015
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Absolutely vile.
Oct 27th 2015
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I would be in jail right now for beatin the brake dust off his ass
Oct 27th 2015
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Need to beat your daughters ass for being a disrespectful shit...
Oct 27th 2015
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      much more fun beatin his and anyone who rides for him
Oct 27th 2015
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      I swear y'all niggas are the worst
Oct 27th 2015
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      ^^^WENT THERE.
Oct 27th 2015
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      ^^ someone had to
Oct 27th 2015
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      That response didn't warrant that kind of abuse or agression
Oct 27th 2015
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      jeez
Oct 27th 2015
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      LOL. Y'all tough type. But if a grown ass man mollywopped ya daughter
Oct 27th 2015
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      who's troll alias are you?
Oct 27th 2015
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      Christ on the cross ..
Oct 27th 2015
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lmao i flipped a desk on a classmate like that once before.
Oct 27th 2015
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Don Lemon got that uncut...:
Oct 27th 2015
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anybody saying this dude was justified in using THAT kind of force..
Oct 27th 2015
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      and it was a GIRL....
Oct 27th 2015
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Im not saying he shoulda flipped her desk, but i understand (c) Rock
Oct 27th 2015
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Help me understand why you ''understand''...
Oct 27th 2015
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      funny how size and authority didnt matter while she was refusing
Oct 27th 2015
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           so you're saying she deserved it?
Oct 27th 2015
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                RE: so you're saying she deserved it?
Oct 27th 2015
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                     Whether you find the suggestion of calling her parents laughable,
Oct 27th 2015
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An alleged video of the Deputy squatting 940 pounds.
Oct 27th 2015
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Won't watch the video BUT I am confident that the white demonry levels r
Oct 27th 2015
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So the girl didn't listen to the teacher, principal, and officer
Oct 27th 2015
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i wouldn't have gotten her out of the classroom.
Oct 27th 2015
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So you think she would have showed up to the admin's office after class?
Oct 27th 2015
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yes. and if not she'd have been disciplined.
Oct 27th 2015
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i'm so glad i'm not a teacher...i don't have the patience to deal with
Oct 27th 2015
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      she shouldn't have been criminally charged.
Oct 27th 2015
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      we in this dudes district
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      heh.
Oct 27th 2015
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      the only one to overreact was the cop
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           so this coon thinks it's cool to ARREST CHILDREN...
Oct 29th 2015
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                please show me where I said this
Oct 30th 2015
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                     You didn't. You DID say teachers should have kids arrested for disrespec...
Oct 30th 2015
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      basically...
Oct 28th 2015
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If she didn't, she'd almost certainly be suspended.
Oct 27th 2015
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She was insubordinate, I was kicked out of classes for similar shit
Oct 27th 2015
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      Then, I'm sad to say, you had poor teachers.
Oct 28th 2015
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who said anything about race?
Oct 27th 2015
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Nope, the only acceptable questions are why a police officer assaulted a...
Oct 27th 2015
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I don't know why the teacher is getting blamed for anything.
Oct 27th 2015
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      then the protocol needs to be changed.
Oct 27th 2015
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      'the teacher created this problem - not the girl' <-- the REAL problem
Oct 27th 2015
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      haha this.
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      I mean...the teacher probably has rules about phones...
Oct 27th 2015
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           and thankfully the student who recorded this incident using his phone
Oct 27th 2015
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           This, respectfully, is bullshit.
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      HE DID NOTHING TO STOP THE ABUSE!!!
Oct 27th 2015
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      This all happened in the span of like 3 seconds
Oct 27th 2015
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           I agree that it could have gone down quick from his POV...
Oct 27th 2015
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      he's a pussy...plain and simple...u watched a lil girl get drug
Oct 27th 2015
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      man, I quit
Oct 27th 2015
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      Because one of the first things you learn when getting certified...
Oct 28th 2015
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You know how many kids in schools don't listen to teachers/admins?
Oct 27th 2015
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well said
Oct 27th 2015
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http://i.minus.com/izA8HlTTNn5RZ.gif
Oct 27th 2015
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No one here will give you a straight answer to this:
Oct 27th 2015
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I wouldn't have tried is a straight answer.
Oct 27th 2015
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What if she was playing Candy Crush at full volume?
Oct 27th 2015
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      she wasn't playing Candy Crush w/the volume up.
Oct 27th 2015
i gave a straight answer.
Oct 27th 2015
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Fair enough
Oct 27th 2015
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      also, Frank Longo (an actual teacher) has said what he'd have done.
Oct 27th 2015
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EXIT CLASSROOM WITH THE REST OF THE STUDENTS
Oct 27th 2015
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      Like, the teacher and the other students all leave?
Oct 27th 2015
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      That's how I'd do it too if it was that bad.
Oct 27th 2015
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      lol that's the library is for
Oct 27th 2015
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           or that. it's been a while since i've been in a high school man
Oct 27th 2015
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      classroom of 30: teacher + 29 students exit.
Oct 27th 2015
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      I'd do that if I thought the student was being truly disruptive.
Oct 27th 2015
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      i read the account of the student filming...it's admin's fault
Oct 27th 2015
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           Honestly, the teacher didn't need to call the admin either.
Oct 27th 2015
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                very true.
Oct 27th 2015
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      umm, if im the disruptive student im leaving with the class...lol
Oct 28th 2015
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           RE: umm, if im the disruptive student im leaving with the class...lol
Oct 29th 2015
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EXIT CLASSROOM WITH THE REST OF THE STUDENTS
Oct 27th 2015
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She didn't need to be expelled from the classroom...
Oct 28th 2015
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you know this shit happens all the time, right?
Oct 29th 2015
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SROs are only supposed to use force when necessary...
Oct 27th 2015
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excessive force
Oct 27th 2015
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They're both wrong
Oct 27th 2015
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They were both wrong, but there's a solution to this kind of shit
Oct 27th 2015
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Plenty of schools do have this, including mine.
Oct 27th 2015
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      let 'em keep the phones then, but use these
Oct 27th 2015
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           It's not a problem for 99% of students.
Oct 27th 2015
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                just because you didn't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't.
Oct 27th 2015
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                     There's so much awesome in this post I can't tackle it all
Oct 27th 2015
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                          she's gotten off track a number of times due to it
Oct 27th 2015
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Okp never fails to disappoint
Oct 27th 2015
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thank you
Oct 27th 2015
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that was just a cracker trying to show her who was boss
Oct 27th 2015
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something tells me that guy would behave the same with any color
Oct 27th 2015
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      Maybe, but folks wouldn't be as loud & proud to blame the victim tho if ...
Oct 27th 2015
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      i disagree....
Oct 27th 2015
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      In the gawker article there have been claims made against him for...
Oct 27th 2015
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The fact is the if she was a white female no force would've been used.
Oct 27th 2015
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not disagreeing but would a white girl act out that way?
Oct 27th 2015
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WOW.
Oct 27th 2015
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perfect example of how ignorance is dangerous. *smh*
Oct 27th 2015
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congrats you've jumped all the way to the conclusion
Oct 27th 2015
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wow for reporting what I've seen in the classroom?
Oct 27th 2015
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yikes
Oct 27th 2015
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+2 points for race hate. +1 point for caping for white girls
Oct 27th 2015
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you didn't read that did you?
Oct 27th 2015
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      Because its a stereotype
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           my conclusion is they are less likely to act out in 'that way'
Oct 27th 2015
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yoooooooooooooooo you really went there
Oct 27th 2015
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where is there? A report form my time teaching in the school system?
Oct 27th 2015
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      what city
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           Montgomery County Maryland
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                LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...YO STOP!!!!!!!!
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                     Okay if you want to come at it that way.
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                          people from MoCo are rich n docile..so the white folks
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                               you have an interesting definition of rich
Oct 28th 2015
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                                    I guess the rest of the world does too bruh....#11
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                                         it's not a pissing contest and those schools aren't in the majority
Oct 28th 2015
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                                              like white kids do huh
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                                                   or Asian or Arab or Indian -- take your pick
Oct 28th 2015
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                                                        while I'm @ it?... check your tone playboy
Oct 28th 2015
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                                                             Don't call me by my government name on these boards.
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                                                                  I have no idea what u talkin about with government names
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                                                                       who is justifying the officers actions in this (our) exchange?
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                                                                            white kids arent taught to respect authority or get out of the way...
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                                                                                 I said 'in that way' and you can substitute AFRICAN, ARAB, CHINESE
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                                                                                 I bet you if we were IN Africa, Arabia or China you would find
Oct 29th 2015
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                                                                                 But we aren't. Stop arguing just to argue.
Oct 29th 2015
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                                                                                 u told on yourself....no more 'argument' from me
Oct 29th 2015
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                                                                                 nah -- I've always had a 'know your enemy' stance
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Oh wait we're mad because I said we have different backgrounds
Oct 27th 2015
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White kids don't challenge authority?
Oct 27th 2015
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      Not saying they don't - Here in my laughable neck of the woods
Oct 27th 2015
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I knew this white supremact act was some bullshit... lmao
Oct 27th 2015
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I know you've been waiting a long time to type that
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      This isnt the first time I typed it..
Oct 29th 2015
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           how can you talk about racism if you don't talk about white supremacy?
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my friend! i can't believe you typed this.
Oct 28th 2015
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I know -- questions about our own actions are dangerous in general
Oct 28th 2015
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children will act unwisely. count on that.
Oct 28th 2015
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      I'm talking about behavior you're talking about something else
Oct 28th 2015
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           'nobody is behaving properly in this scenario -- that's just the truth'
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                RE: 'nobody is behaving properly in this scenario -- that's just the tru...
Oct 28th 2015
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                     no. you wil not absolve the adults for their behavior.
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                          I'm not absolving them they should be disciplined but they won't change
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you saying he went to school in a safe, lilly white area?
Oct 29th 2015
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      should we divide on skin tones as well since were using education
Oct 29th 2015
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this girl seemed pretty calm though
Oct 28th 2015
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When your true beliefs slip out like....
Oct 28th 2015
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Heaven forbid our kids be taught how to avoid their enemies
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      ^^^^^^^^ THIS!!!
Oct 28th 2015
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      um hum...
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           usually you have well formed and thought provoking things to say
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Omfg... are you serious?
Oct 29th 2015
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Round and round. This is why we cant have nice things.
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      Foh with nice things...I'm trying to get free
Oct 29th 2015
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           If you wan't freedom get on a plane to some other country.
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                No thanks...I'll stay and fight for freedom in the land my
Oct 29th 2015
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                     Fight what and how? But if that's what you want go for it?
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Worst shit I read it weeks. Please put this nigga in the database.
Oct 29th 2015
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fool I am the database
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I was wondering what had made this go POAST
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man i seen SROs and teachers toss up ppl of all races in school.
Oct 27th 2015
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Stop dismissing the racialized & gendered violence Black girls face b/c
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      ^^^^^this is what I think a lot of the disregard for Blk women boils dow...
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      you say it like i aint seen it with my own two. often.
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      RIGHT??
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6xvoOEbljM
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my bad the girl is Latina
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Someone should crack his skull
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wtf man...i would not want to be touching any student like that...especi...
Oct 28th 2015
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RE: The fact is the if she was a white female no force would've been use...
Oct 27th 2015
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I went to one of those old school catholic elementary schools
Oct 27th 2015
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LoL, omg...I will never forget Sister Irene & her arctic death grip!
Oct 27th 2015
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ROTFL at strongest grip
Oct 27th 2015
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2nd grade, several kids were lined up in front of the room...
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Does anybody think reason we have to have "school resource officers"...
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they're supposed to respond to lockdown situations
Oct 27th 2015
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"school resource officers" are not for what's in that video
Oct 27th 2015
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lol...when?
Oct 27th 2015
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no. i think it's more about lawyers than kids.
Oct 27th 2015
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i'm amazed how you consistently stay on the wrong side of everything.
Oct 27th 2015
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School Resource Officer is the political term for Cop in School
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the reason why they are needed is obvious
Oct 28th 2015
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no. it's a part of the militarization of american private life
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      ^^^ sees the forest ^^^
Oct 29th 2015
      im struggling to see the private part *snickers*
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Glad some of yall arent teachers....
Oct 27th 2015
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Glad some of these folks aren't parents either.
Oct 27th 2015
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      My kid acts up in class, PUNCH HER IN THE FUCKING FACE
Oct 27th 2015
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           ^ old school.
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           that good home training
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                man...if i got dragged like that child did...
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                using terror to keep kids in line always worked.
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                     basically nm
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                     RE: using terror to keep kids in line always worked.
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           Kids that don't follow orders need to be tazed. Repeatedly.
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                Why not cut off a hand?
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                     I think you should be able to pith a kid right there in the classroom
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RE: SC Resource Officer Slams (female) Student
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why are folks so quick to jump to a "mentally disturbed" defense???
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      RE: why are folks so quick to jump to a "mentally disturbed" defense???
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Adrian Peterson
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Do we have any actual OkayTeachers? How would you have handled...
Oct 27th 2015
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questions answered all up in this post already
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Several have replied in here. None agree with you.
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RE: Several have replied in here. None agree with you.
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      and I have friends that are veteran city public high school teachers...
Oct 27th 2015
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           This is not one of those schools.
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           from the link YOU posted...
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                ... did you think you were making a strong counterpoint?
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           school staff have diverse reactions to the incident in SC
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           Who are you, and what did you do with ThaTruth?
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I was an actual teacher who faced this exact same scenario.
Oct 27th 2015
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Actually you said you never had a student refuse to leave the class
Oct 28th 2015
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      Because I knew the student wouldn't have left, so I didn't ask.
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           So where and what kind of school did you teach in and what subject...
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                lol my man is like "WHERE exactly should I move these goalposts?"
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                     LMAO!!
Oct 28th 2015
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                     Lol it's ridiculous
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                     LOL
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                     Womp Womp
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                     Its called a discussion, genius. Teaching glee club at Sunnyvale...
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                     yes, we all know you're seeking to discredit Longo
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                          He acts this way toward me on multiple boards for reasons unknown.
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                          i'm not surprised.
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                          lol, wtf are you talking about dude? Outside of college basketball...
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                          Not surprised
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                          Its called a discussion, genius. Context is everything, being a big time...
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                               yes i understand ad hominem attacks pretty well.
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                                    RE: yes i understand ad hominem attacks pretty well.
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                                         What are their names? What do they teach? How long?
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                                         ^^^^^
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                                         uh huh.
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                                              You don't have to take my word for it. Talk to some CPS peeps and ask...
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                                                   i've already talked to 2 of them, homie.
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                                                        RE: i've already talked to 2 of them, homie.
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                                                             why does it matter??
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                                                             One of the other students told us.
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                                                             RE: i've already talked to 2 of them, homie.
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                     lolol
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                     LOL
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I've been a teacher and I've faced this scenario.
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Student who recorded the incident was also arrested and charged (link).
Oct 27th 2015
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God bless that young lady
Oct 27th 2015
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amen.
Oct 27th 2015
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The fuck??
Oct 28th 2015
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Our "resource officer" was so butter soft.
Oct 27th 2015
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WTF!... is that a WSHH video?
Oct 27th 2015
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There's no reason to remove a non-violent child with force, period.
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ya again its like we skipped all the normal shit that a student
Oct 27th 2015
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      That's the perfect description
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      thats the only place i can think of where that is acceptable
Oct 27th 2015
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      Yeah it's disgusting.
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I can't believe anyone sane would defend this vile
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FUCK EVERY ONE IN HERE DEFENDING THIS
Oct 27th 2015
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This was excessive and dangerous. No excuse
Oct 27th 2015
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Its a gang of UncleToms & Housenegros in this thread!
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LMFAO!!
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*edit*
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my MIL was an educator and when we watched this she said...
Oct 28th 2015
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wonderful, we were dying to know what your MIL would do in this sich
Oct 28th 2015
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bruh!
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lol...right...ninja Kwesi woke up this morning on 10
Oct 28th 2015
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i hate you... lol
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lolz
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Your MIL is overreacting.
Oct 28th 2015
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maybe, but i think once you ask a student to leave and they refuse...
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asking the girl to leave class is doing too much.
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RE: Your MIL is overreacting.
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      that makes sense.
Oct 28th 2015
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My wife is on the phone with her mother (a teacher) as I type this
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Teenagers are expected to be teenagers. Adults need to be adults.
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Nah, 'cause up and down in this thread y'all admonishing the teacher
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      Actually you do because the officer has been fired..
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           guess you haven't been to SC...the charges won't be dropped...
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                doubt it.
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basically...
Oct 28th 2015
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      when did you become such an Uncle Tom?
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           The character Uncle Tom gave his life for his fellow enslaved African
Oct 29th 2015
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           Is that your rationalization for sounding like a Tom in this post?
Oct 29th 2015
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                Is that what one who would lay their life down for another sounds like?
Oct 29th 2015
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                     Hey! Where'd you go? I thought we were name calling here!?
Oct 29th 2015
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                     You are laying down your life for another in this post?
Oct 29th 2015
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                          Am I saying that I am? I don't recall saying that.
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                               how about calling you a sell-out, a coon,
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                               Meh -- at least it's more intelligent than Uncle Tom
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                               dont recall saying anything about laying down ur life til u mentioned it
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                                    Did you call 1-800-TRY-HARD before typing this?
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           RE: when did you become such an Uncle Tom?
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It didn't even require that. The teacher's reaction made it a bigger dea...
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Exactly. The teacher is complicit in the criminalization of children.
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      Yeah, that indicates to me poor classroom management skills.
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      Sadly, the Sheriff actually has the most sense of all the involved adult...
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      That's going a little far imo.
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           They are if they failed to report the officer endangering the child...
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           Oh that makes more sense.
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           I didn't say complicit in the assault. I said complicit in the..
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                Nah.
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                     y'all are arguing over the wrong thing.
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                     Either way the teacher is a pussy for not speaking up..
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                     The teacher should've never had to escalate the issue.
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                          ^^
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                     This wasn't a noise complaint.
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or they could have waited til class ended
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smh. No excuse for what took place.
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What the hell is SRO? they have guns?
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Shocked this post did numbers. There should have been on post saying
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gotta hear both sides (c) Don Lemon & assorted other assholes.
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Yah really.
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Post #4 is what the majority of discussion here is about
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      sadly this is where we are with race relations today
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He's Fired
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something all sides should be able to agree on.
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Fired (link)
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WAIT, WAIT, WAIT...being disruptive in a classroom = a crime...WTF?
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hello.
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Its unfortunately called = film a cop doing bad, expect 'legal' reprecus...
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      but they need the FBI to investigate criminal charges against the office...
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           my biggest issue with the whole thing....why he aint charged
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                because he's a cop.
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                     it was a rhetorical ? just like the Eric Garner shit
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those kids were chillin hard tho... 2 of them didn't even flinch
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she showed no aggression, force shouldn't have been used
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the girl is an orphan (link/swipe)
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I wanna see more heads roll.
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Yup!
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yeah, if they knew what was going on with ol' girl, they definitely f'd ...
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AS A TEACHER YOU GOT TO KNOW YOUR KIDS
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i hope this officer has a house/assets.
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I'm trying to imagine the responses to this news.
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Follow the rules is the still the motive.
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      yall killin me with the &quot;but&quot;...
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           Stop excusing her role in this. Comply. No cops.
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                so her not giving up her phone is the "more pertinent fact"?...
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                     Had she complied, no cops would have been called
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                          sure except we all know of cases where cops are called
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                               You don't get to post-hoc examine shit. The cop was wrong too.
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                                    "I already can't turn on the radio. I think I'm gonna drop one more alb...
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that just crushed me, i swear
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Exactly why teenagers should be treated like... I don't know...
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Ppl want the girl to be made accountable. As if being battered, arrested...
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      I'm really disgusted by it all. Like, seriously.
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           Our conditioning is conditioned.
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^ that's the 'more info' for Don Lemon's Tom-ass.
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I want the Teacher and Admin FIRED too
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All u weirdos, closet Ben Carson acolytes and "New" Blacks....
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Comply with the teacher, and the cop doesn't get called.
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^^Type to ask a rape victim: what they were wearing & why were they
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don't go out alone, rapist won't bother you!!!
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don't be a woman and you won't get raped!
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Way to scrape the barrel. Comply = No cop interaction
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      and for her bad behavior the recently orphaned foster girl has been batt...
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           Bruh!!! Talk that shit!!
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           You want compassion? Follow the rules.
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                arlier, smaller studies, researchers also found that Americans with the ...
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RE: Comply with the teacher, and the cop doesn't get called.
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      Doesn't matter. The time for all of this talking is before the cop is ca...
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           yes. b/c the adults' conduct is what's worthy of discussion in this sto...
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                So don't bring up the cop w/o understanding WHY he was called
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                     i know why the cop was called.
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                          Do as you're told. Period. Students are not the authority
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                          i place most of the blame for all of this on the teacher and the admin a...
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                               1. do as you're told 2. I'm glad the cop was fired
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                                    nd demanded that they also be detained in solidarity. Police fired stun...
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                                    "Doing as your told" doesn't protect Black children from violence
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                                         If she'd left the classroom, what would we discuss?
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                                              if she'd stayed home that day this post wouldn't exist.
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                          http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-14-2015/7q7hLA.gif
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it's the same bullshit we heard in the wake of the Mike Brown murder.
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it's an epidemic.
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actually its the "New" Blacks who don't believe a child should stay in a...
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could've shot her in the face, and ppl would be like "he's wrong but she...
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see: Mike Brown and Eric Garner.
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the teen was disruptive and caused the intital conflict. the officer esc...
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why do i have to obey cops?
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we should obey authority figures who are in their position of authority
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RE: we should obey authority figures who are in their position of author...
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in general? you have to decide if it's worth it not to
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Students don't have those rights in public schools. No insubordination
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      "certain" students don't have those rights in public schools. No insubo...
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Sounds familiar...
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oh so nobody's touching this huh? lol
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      you ignores reply 370. why should i obey cops?
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      RE: oh so nobody's touching this huh? lol
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           why can't they both be wrong? Just because one person is wrong doesn't.....
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                RE: why can't they both be wrong? Just because one person is wrong doesn...
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                RE: why can't they both be wrong? Just because one person is wrong doesn...
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                SHE GOT BEAT THE FUCK UP FOR WHAT SHE DID, NUMBNUTS.
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                You don't even think children should be spanked so there's no point in.....
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                     i think children need discipline and correction.
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                nigga said he did what he was ordered to do...ya'll watch way
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                     read the news reports, it says the SRO was "ordered to remove the girl"....
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                          who ordered it....his seargant?...his colonel?...his captain?
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                               are you sure about that?
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                                    i sure am...a SRO is a police officer...they dont take ORDERS
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even w/ the orphan info y'all still want her flogged. I hate you
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Life is rough. But that doesn't change the rules. STFU
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the 8th amendment in that same rule book too....but of course
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      Fuck you ambient1
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      lol....exactly....the white man sure did a number on us
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      This is fantastic satire.
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      RE: Fuck you ambient1
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      BigRed wins; flawless victory.
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      :-)
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      Both were at fault. Don't condone insubordination.
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           why not? says who? why is insubordination bad?
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                Why is insubordination bad? GTFOHWTBS
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                     my kids would spread some disorder.
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                     Her mom is dead.
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Niggas would strangle their own daughter on some honor killing
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      godleeluv said the COP IS A VICTIM.
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      SoWhat said the girl is ABSOLVED OF ALL BLAME
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           you're unraveling
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           She is....ALL the blame for this is on the teacher, administrator, & cop...
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           I think he's merely pointing out that kids will be kids.
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      thanks for making me laugh, fam
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Raven Symone is a tragedy by the way.
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she sits in Hasselbacks chair right?
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i'd think more of her if i believed she was trolling
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she's not clever enough to troll.
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Yup. You can actually see the stupid
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nope she is that stupid
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There's a petition to get her removed from the show lol
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the school resource officer was nicknamed “Officer Slam.”
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and it wasnt racial because his girlfriend is black
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      lol
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Carlos Martin (another Ben Fields victim) interview:
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yikes...
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Another issue I had, for an 11 year vet, and all the touting they were
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      I agree with this...
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           The glaring problem, IMO, with the US media is there is no accountabilit...
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what beer goes best with gumbo? I think Abita
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RE: SC Resource Officer Slams (female) Student
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She was wrong as two left shoes.
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      Who's doing this? What'd they say?
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      thats that NEW nigga narrative, shit waters down the whole cause
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           what cause?
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don't care about any of it
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that's a lot for someone who doesn't care.
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Funny how history is so important in these situations
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I think this is a bigger issue in contrast to the history of the officer...
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What this is really about...
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damn.
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Going VERY off-topic a little bit, being African...
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that shit is wrong in Africa too.
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being African...im completely disgusted by this behaviour
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This was not punishment, it was assault
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some real idiots in here..zero excuse for any student not displaying
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Where are Black children safe? (NYT link)
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he's just a child...
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that child is wrong.
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What that case got to do with this one tho?
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You are a moron.
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Absolutely. WE ARE 100% PRO-TEACHER ASSAULT
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1. "I'm pretty sure he probably called the officer to get her out of his cla..."
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>Crazy thing about it, the male teacher does nothing smh.

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2. " I'm pretty sure he didn't call him to manhandle her ass."
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3. "Student who filmed it speaks out "
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http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/27/student-who-videotaped-incident-speaks-out/74664592/

  

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4. "so...how do you remove a disruptive student from a desk?"
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do you at all?

or do you let them sit there and make everyone else leave?

and before you say she wasnt being disruptive
her refusing to give her phone to the teacher was the disruption


idk man,
the teacher asked....she refused

assistant principal asked....she refused

the officer asked....she refused

what do you do?


ugh
im SO against cell phones in the classrooms
but times have changed

  

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6. "valid questions..."
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>do you at all?
>
>or do you let them sit there and make everyone else leave?
>
>and before you say she wasnt being disruptive
>her refusing to give her phone to the teacher was the
>disruption
>
>
>idk man,
>the teacher asked....she refused
>
>assistant principal asked....she refused
>
>the officer asked....she refused
>
>what do you do?
>
>
>ugh
>im SO against cell phones in the classrooms
>but times have changed

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7. "Anytime you physically touch a student you lost"
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I don't get what imaginary universe people come from where they can't talk a teenager into getting out of a chair, lol. It's not like she was the Rosa Parks of SC, she was being a bratty teenager like most teens are. If you gotta pull WWE moves to get her out of a chair, you lost.

If that happened when I went to school and she refused to get out of a chair most of the battle axes I served under would have kept on teaching, then locked her inside and called her parents after we got up, lol. That's if they couldn't be bothered to verbally take her soul before hand.

  

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8. "so your solution is talking but from a different angle, ok."
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18. "Yup. Im right too."
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I know a bunch of teachers and the first thing they would say is some can hack the job, some can't.

There's a reason why ten minutes in some substitutes are in a corner crying, and some teachers can walk in the hood of the hoodest classrooms and have those motherfuckers stand up straight like it's an ROTC meeting.

The cop should be fired, the teacher obviously needs more work if he can't handle a teenager without 'backup'. It be one thing if she was throwing shit around, yelling in class, all the bitch ain't wanna do is give up her phone and he calls the police on her? LOL. Dude sucks.

  

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20. "ok? be right nigga, no one said you wasnt, LOL"
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21. "f'reals...that was just a lil girl being a lil girl...gettin smart"
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real disruption is when a kid is in your grill


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30. "I've been in literally this *exact* scenario."
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> all
>the bitch ain't wanna do is give up her phone and he calls the
>police on her? LOL. Dude sucks.

In which a boy/girl doesn't wanna give up his/her phone when I request it be handed over.

You don't call fucking security, lol. That's a laughable overreaction.

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42. "What do/did you do?"
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Do you just ignore it completely and move on or did you persist in getting them to comply?

What if a student was actually disruptive? Like making it impossible for class to continue. How do you handle a situation like that?

Please realize that these aren't setup questions to attack your answers. I'm genuinely interested because I'm 98% sure I'm not built for this job lol

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47. "I addressed it calmly."
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>Do you just ignore it completely and move on or did you
>persist in getting them to comply?

I had a kid refuse to give up her phone. I informed her that I'd be writing her up, what her punishment would be, and if I continued to see the phone during class, I'd be writing her up for every subsequent appearance it made. She continued to text for a minute, just to show she wasn't backing down, then put it away once I resumed teaching.

Some kids *aren't* going to back down. You have to be a smart enough teacher to realize what kind of student you are dealing with.

>What if a student was actually disruptive? Like making it
>impossible for class to continue. How do you handle a
>situation like that?

Kids never really did that in my class, because the class dynamic and my respect for them was established early on.

I had a couple of virulently disrespectful kids, but when I asked them to leave the class, they'd leave. Odds are the majority of disrespectful kids won't want to remain in your class anyway-- if they're pissed at you, they really *would* rather leave than stick around. Even if that means sitting in the dean's office. Many would rather do that than stay in the situation that's making them so upset.

And I'd always go down and talk to the kids myself after that class, if I had the time. I'd go let the kid know that I'm not mad at them, I don't hate them, but I've got a job to do. As long as that kid lets me do my job, I won't ever do wrong by them... and if they give my class a chance, they really might learn something that they enjoy. That one-on-one talk with the disrespectful kids worked 90% of the time.

Many of the kids who had the biggest blow-ups in my class ended up being kids who would swing by and say hello in the subsequent years. If they're disrespectful in your class, odds are they're disrespectful *everywhere,* and odds are they need an advocate, or at the very least, they want to feel like there's someone on their side who may have a chance at liking them or treating them the way they'd like to be treated. Whenever I tried to be that person, it pretty much *always* worked out.

>Please realize that these aren't setup questions to attack
>your answers. I'm genuinely interested because I'm 98% sure
>I'm not built for this job lol

Sure. I'm always happy to talk about teaching. There are so many misconceptions about schools/teachers in general, largely fueled by a person's own bad experiences... and there are so many things systemically wrong in our approach that we need to change. I'm happy to talk about all of them.

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88. "^^^^^post should end here folks"
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not sure how this got to 80+ replies

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302. "RE: I addressed it calmly."
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"If they're disrespectful in your class, odds are they're disrespectful *everywhere,* and odds are they need an advocate, or at the very least, they want to feel like there's someone on their side who may have a chance at liking them or treating them the way they'd like to be treated. Whenever I tried to be that person, it pretty much *always* worked out."

You hit it on the bullseye with this post. There's almost always some underlying issues going on with a child that acts in this manner. The solution with these types of people is communication and letting them know someone is there for them not to get physical with them. People don't understand that what that officer did is how you create a criminal not a law abiding upstanding citizen.

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373. "^^^ this. the teacher, and cop unnecessarily escalated the "
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situation.

at some point SOMEBODY needs to think... does it make sense for a child to get a record, let alone be assaulted over a fucking cell phone in class?

this is where the people w/ frontal lobes should be stepping up.


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51. "RE: What do/did you do?"
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Employ good ol peer pressure

"if student _____ isn't going to hand in her phone you all are doing a test" or something of that nature where her individuals action has a group consequence. Let it be a lesson in class cohesion/democracy or whatever LOL

  

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54. "This does play a large part. Can you get kids to like your class?"
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If they like you and/or your class, any disrespectful students will immediately meet with pressure from their peers. Whenever kids tried to sass me, there was always a wave of other kids yelling "SHUT UP!" to that kid.

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193. "^^^^^"
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make your class a community and a LOT of stuff is prevented

  

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23. "this seems more about bruised egos than anything."
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She was defying commands and embarrassing authority figures. She had to be put in her place - by any means necessary.

Perhaps class could've continued and she could've been disciplined after class.

fuck you.

  

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26. "they say the officer has had racial complaints before"
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312. "the cop wouldn't have gotten called if (Fill in the blank)"
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C'mon. The cop got called cause she ain't wanna comply

The cop goofed but she clearly was in the wrong

  

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314. "the cop wouldn't have gotten called if the teacher and admin hadn't "
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overreacted to the girl's bad behavior which was likely rooted in the recent loss of her mother and her being placed in foster care which the teacher or admin should've known.

fuck you.

  

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343. "Overreacted? Like the girl who ignored 3 authority figures?"
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See you won't get away this easily.

1. The girl is and was still in the wrong

2. The cop is in the wrong

  

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345. "the girl didn't 'overreact'. she misbehaved."
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and she should've been punished w/a suspension from school. there was no need for her to leave the classroom or be forcibly removed.

fuck you.

  

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346. "She would have been punished appropriately if she LEFT"
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what aren't you getting?

The time to fall in line is before the assistant principal gets called

But no, we escalated to the police.

So stop passing the buck of behavior here.

  

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348. " there was no need for her to leave the classroom or be forcibly removed..."
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there was no need for her to leave the classroom or be forcibly removed.

fuck you.

  

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362. "There wouldn't be a cop if she took orders from teachers/admin"
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Stop supporting shitty behavior.

  

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363. "RE: There wouldn't be a cop if she took orders from teachers/admin"
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o lowkey I was down. So I was like "okay I'll go. Who's all going & when we leaving." All this bitch says is "be ready by 8"

So I call her like "bitch I SAID who's all going!" & she says "my boyfriend & our room mate & my room mate has a place in Tampa "

So I'm like ok ok ok. I'll be ready. So I pack my baddest stripper wear & I'm ready. Now my nigga DID NOT want me to go. He was soooooo hurt o I texted her on the slick while in the backseat like "another sugar daddy? U got a type bitch!" & THE BLACL DUDE HAD HER DAMN PHONE!!!

So he starts laughing & he goes "I'm using her GPS. no I'm not a SD I've known her & her dude for 8 years. We all live together.."

So I was like "My bad. Who lives in Tampa?" & black dude (still aint told me his name) goes "my fiance" ...so tht was it. Now we on the road ERE WERE LITERAL PROSTITUTES STANDING WITH THEIR PIMPS OUTSIDE. I SWEAR TO GOD. I said "I have $. I can get my own room. It's fine"

so jessica (the white bitch) pulls me to the side & is like "we gone be at the club all night. This room for Jarrett. not us! dnt even trip"

So I was like yea bitch okay. But trust I am NOT laying my head here. . So we leave our shit at the motel wit Jarrett & head to the club

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359. "Polic should not be in schools in the first place"
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Teachers and administrators should be able to handle the kids. The presence of police in schools is not to protect anyone. It's just another feature of the school to prison pipeline.

  

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122. "My old teachers would of did the same thing"
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we keep it moving,

  

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128. "they also WOULD'VE cringed at your use of 'would of'"
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and WOULD HAVE reminded you that 'would of' has no meaning and that you should use either 'would've' or 'would have'.

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129. "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WbKpMjrNJm4/hqdefault.jpg"
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http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WbKpMjrNJm4/hqdefault.jpg

  

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131. "..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pele5vptVgc

fuck you.

  

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29. "You discipline them after class. Simple and plain."
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I've had students refuse to comply before. It has happened to nearly every teacher. You inform the student that they will be punished, and that if they continue, they will continue to be punished.

You have to know what kind of student you're dealing with, too. If I knew it was the type of kid who wouldn't hand over her phone, I wouldn't have even asked. I would have told her that I was writing her up for having it out, and every time I look over, if I see it still out, I'm writing her up again.

Nothing she could have been doing could have been *that* disruptive. There are ways of handling that situation-- teachers, admins, police all need to be smarter.

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45. "RE: "
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OMG ...1000x Yesss!!!!!
>
>Nothing she could have been doing could have been *that*
>disruptive. There are ways of handling that situation--
>teachers, admins, police all need to be smarter.


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153. "its like they already decided the set consequences for"
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the action arent good enough
and this person needed to be dealt with physically... foh!

  

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249. "Exactly, I never gave any student enough power to disrupt class..."
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if you do, you'll have kids trying it, just to avoid work. Plus, you don't know why the phone was so important to the student. I would get the other kids working and engage the child, b/c there could be a legit reason why she needs to watch her phone. Basically, treat the child like she's a human being.

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65. "i would've left the room with the rest of my class."
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tell admin office my plans and ask for campus security to go to my classroom, email principal/vp/etc why i'm leaving the classroom...bet that student would've left the classroom after all her peers left.

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165. "What do you do? How 'bout call her parent(s) or guardian?"
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>do you at all?
>
>or do you let them sit there and make everyone else leave?
>
>and before you say she wasnt being disruptive
>her refusing to give her phone to the teacher was the
>disruption
>
>
>idk man,
>the teacher asked....she refused
>
>assistant principal asked....she refused
>
>the officer asked....she refused
>
>what do you do?
>
>
>ugh
>im SO against cell phones in the classrooms
>but times have changed

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167. "Slowly start tipping the desk until they're forced to get up or fall. "
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The desk is school property.

  

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357. "You don't "
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You call her parents to intervene. Then you give the student a consequence and implement measures to improve their behavior. This student was recently placed in foster care after the death of her mother. She's experiencing a great deal of trauma and this only added to it. Having a cell phone and refusing to give it to a teacher does not warrant this kind of response.

  

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367. "the question doesnt say her actions warranted anything"
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its amazing that yall instantly jump to that conclusion

every
single
time

please seek professional help

  

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378. "Your question was so shockingly dumb for an adult"
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Your last few sentences definitely attempt to justify that cops actions. Smh.

  

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390. "bitch if i wanted to blame the girl i would, get over yourself"
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asking WHAT DO YOU DO doesnt blame anyone dumbass

  

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403. "YOU STEPPED WAY OVER THE LINE WIT THAT ONE"
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462. "You're loud and wrong you Uncle Tom piece of shit"
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Get the white man's dick out of your mouth.

  

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5. "Absolutely vile."
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fuck you.

  

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9. "I would be in jail right now for beatin the brake dust off his ass"
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w/o hesitation or trepidation

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10. "Need to beat your daughters ass for being a disrespectful shit..."
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11. "much more fun beatin his and anyone who rides for him"
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12. "I swear y'all niggas are the worst "
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14. "^^^WENT THERE."
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22. "^^ someone had to"
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16. "That response didn't warrant that kind of abuse or agression"
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But I maybe you agree with abusing teens. I'd love to see ho you respond when the police drag you for whatever reason.


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17. "jeez"
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19. "LOL. Y'all tough type. But if a grown ass man mollywopped ya daughter"
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for not giving them her phone y'all would be like 'Yay!', lol.

  

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32. "Christ on the cross .."
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13. "lmao i flipped a desk on a classmate like that once before."
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solid form.

i know its some SROs that wanted to do that to us back in school. adults supposed to know better tho.

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15. "Don Lemon got that uncut...:"
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https://www.facebook.com/AC360/videos/10156282119435533/

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28. "anybody saying this dude was justified in using THAT kind of force.."
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fuck you and everybody that love you. He fuckin drug that child across the floor like he had just bagged a deer.

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31. "and it was a GIRL...."
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fuck em all

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24. "Im not saying he shoulda flipped her desk, but i understand (c) Rock"
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33. "Help me understand why you ''understand''..."
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you feel her "disobedience" warrants to be dragged and pulled by a man twice the size of her?

  

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34. "funny how size and authority didnt matter while she was refusing"
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size of the officer

authority of the officer, teacher, and assistant principal

  

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35. "so you're saying she deserved it?"
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36. "RE: so you're saying she deserved it?"
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its not that simple with me

while the officer could have done it a million different ways
he didnt.

everything leading up to the officer was 100% on the girl

the officer crossing whatever line doesnt absolve her of all fault



i DO find the suggestion of calling her parents laughable

clearly she couldnt give a fuck less about anyone trying to correct her


  

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166. "Whether you find the suggestion of calling her parents laughable,"
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>i DO find the suggestion of calling her parents laughable
>
>clearly she couldnt give a fuck less about anyone trying to
>correct her
>
>
>

or not, Her PARENTS are the ones who are Ultimately responsible for her actions; THEY (i.e., he parents) are the ones who authorities are to hold accountable for HER actions. They (i.e., he parents) need to be notified and involved BEFORE things escalate to this level.

This shit was foul and you can't make it right by diverting blame to the victim.

If her father had done this to her, I'm sure that you would be quick to say he's an unfit parent and that CPS should be called in to intervene or remove the child.

These useless, excuses have got to stop!


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25. "An alleged video of the Deputy squatting 940 pounds."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdIU1ZutqSM
I dont know if its really him.

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37. "Won't watch the video BUT I am confident that the white demonry levels r"
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off the charts! The levels of human trash you have to be to do that to a (girl)child AND as an teacher, watch that happen to your student?! I hope jaws are broken, jobs are lost, just horrible & hopefully painful, short lives for those pieces of shit...just like, gross.

Also, add documenting police brutality to the list of reasons why phones are NECESSARY in the classroom.

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38. "So the girl didn't listen to the teacher, principal, and officer"
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How would you have gotten her out of the classroom???

The cop went overboard...but this isn't a race factor...the teacher and principal are black...

It's a bad situation...

  

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39. "i wouldn't have gotten her out of the classroom."
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as the teacher or the admin or the cop i wouldn't have escalated the situation. the girl wasn't doing anything that necessitated her removal from class. i would've gotten over myself and worked through my frustration w/the girl so class could continue w/minimal distraction or interruption.

as the teacher i'd have continued w/class and disciplined her afterward - verbally and possibly in written form. as the admin i'd have directed the girl to come see me in my office after class. as the cop i'd have talked to the admin/teacher outside the classroom and declined to interfere.

fuck you.

  

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41. "So you think she would have showed up to the admin's office after class?"
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44. "yes. and if not she'd have been disciplined."
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the student who recorded the incident claims the girl was apologetic. based on that i think she would've reported to the admin's office after class if directed. and if she didn't i'd have disciplined her.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/27/student-who-videotaped-incident-speaks-out/74664592/

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56. "i'm so glad i'm not a teacher...i don't have the patience to deal with"
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other folks kids...

some of them are straight disrespectful...

i think the officer went over the line...

but he was the third option after the teacher and admin couldn't get her to leave...

this happened not too far from where i was raised...so i'm not shocked that it happened...

and i'm not shocked that the teacher and students did nothing...

but at some point...we need to quit just looking at the officer and consider what she did as well...

she got charged with a crime as well...


  

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60. "she shouldn't have been criminally charged."
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yes, the girl was wrong to not give up her phone after having been directed to do so by the teacher. and the teacher overreacted by calling in the admin and the admin and/or the teacher overreacted by calling the cop. and the cop overreacted by being physical w/the girl, taking her into custody and removing her from the school. the prosecutors overreacted by seeking a criminal charge. if any of this was necessitated by policy then the school has a bad policy.

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102. "we in this dudes district"
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109. "heh."
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fuck you.

  

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123. "the only one to overreact was the cop"
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the teacher couldn't get her to fall in line so he had to call in someone else. She still refused. That person called in the cop. The cop could have simply cuffed her and taken her out.

But, shit was escalated appropriately
---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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471. "so this coon thinks it's cool to ARREST CHILDREN..."
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for playing on their phones in class....


where do they make you ppl?

>the teacher couldn't get her to fall in line so he had to
>call in someone else. She still refused. That person called in
>the cop. The cop could have simply cuffed her and taken her
>out.
>
>But, shit was escalated appropriately
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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482. "please show me where I said this"
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I'll wait...

---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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499. "You didn't. You DID say teachers should have kids arrested for disrespec..."
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>the teacher couldn't get her to fall in line so he had to
>call in someone else. She still refused. That person called in
>the cop. The cop could have simply cuffed her and taken her
>out.

Which, if that's the case, we are gonna have to up our jail production tenfold, lol.

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313. "basically..."
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>other folks kids...
>
>some of them are straight disrespectful...
>
>i think the officer went over the line...
>
>but he was the third option after the teacher and admin
>couldn't get her to leave...
>
>this happened not too far from where i was raised...so i'm not
>shocked that it happened...
>
>and i'm not shocked that the teacher and students did
>nothing...
>
>but at some point...we need to quit just looking at the
>officer and consider what she did as well...
>
>she got charged with a crime as well...
>
>
>

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50. "If she didn't, she'd almost certainly be suspended."
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So let her not go to the admin's office. She can earn a suspension.

Eventually, that string of not showing up will result in a call to the parent or guardian saying, "Hey, your kid has out-of-school suspension for the following infractions and subordinate behaviors. We'll see her in 3 days/ a week/whatever."

The only reason a teacher or admin would blow up as a result of her refusing would be a fragile ego.

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76. "She was insubordinate, I was kicked out of classes for similar shit"
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There's no place for insubordination in a classroom. If the teacher says "put it away", you put it up or get kicked out of class.

Shit really is that simple.
---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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305. "Then, I'm sad to say, you had poor teachers. "
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40. "who said anything about race?"
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43. "Nope, the only acceptable questions are why a police officer assaulted a..."
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student & why the teacher called for the officer in the first place.

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46. "I don't know why the teacher is getting blamed for anything."
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He had a disruptive student and he called an authority to assist. Hell, he might have been following protocol to make sure his ass is covered.

Y'all acting like he wanted this dude to abuse her

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48. "then the protocol needs to be changed."
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b/c all of this was ridiculous.

the teacher created this problem - not the girl. yes, the girl defied the teacher but the defiance wasn't so disruptive that class instruction needed to be stalled. the teacher could've kept on w/instruction after a write up. he was doing too much. the girl didn't need to leave the classroom due the alleged infraction (refusing to give him her phone).

fuck you.

  

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52. "'the teacher created this problem - not the girl' <-- the REAL problem"
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199. "haha this."
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57. "I mean...the teacher probably has rules about phones..."
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he gotta stand his ground there for the sake of getting respect from the other students...

i bet you no other student gonna be messing with their phone in his class now...

  

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61. "and thankfully the student who recorded this incident using his phone"
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also violated the teacher's rule if such rule exists.

b/c otherwise we wouldn't have the video.

the teacher could've enforced his rule via more reasonable means. the girl didn't need to leave class or be forcibly removed from class.

fuck you.

  

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86. "This, respectfully, is bullshit."
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>he gotta stand his ground there for the sake of getting
>respect from the other students...

Respect is not enforced, it is earned. Every teacher knows this. Let the punishment do the talking.

If you're a teacher whose ego is not prepared for talkback from a child, you probably shouldn't be a teacher.

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68. "HE DID NOTHING TO STOP THE ABUSE!!!"
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Are you serious right now??

You could live wit yourself witnessing a GIRL being drug across the floor like animal??
As a man how do you not see how disgusting that is?

  

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112. "This all happened in the span of like 3 seconds"
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By the time he was even able to react (if he wanted to), the situation was calmed (she's restrained on the ground).
Was his best course of action to then start wrestling the cop?

You can play that old "I would have done this and that" game, but reality doesn't work like that.

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124. "I agree that it could have gone down quick from his POV..."
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but to do absolutely nothing? I'm sorry but I gotta play that "I would have done this and that" game because honestly I wouldn't have been able to live wit myself I didn't step up.

That teacher could have put his hands up and stopped this immediately MAN to MAN and reminded him what his role was in that school and how as a MAN he's not only violating her but also scarring her for life!If that means me takin an L and standing up for those kids, i'll do it. But, to stand around and do nothing??

He let her down, just like those grownups let that lil sista down in Texas at the pool party. We gotta step up as protectors and stop turning a blind eye,these kids aren't equipped to stand up to these ADULTS who abuse their power.

  

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83. "he's a pussy...plain and simple...u watched a lil girl get drug"
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85. "man, I quit"
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.

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299. "Because one of the first things you learn when getting certified..."
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is classroom management. You deal with minor disruptions all the time. For the most part, you handle them yourself unless the situation is getting loud or violent. When the student refused to give up the cell phone, he could've got the class moving along or waited until after class and addressed the student directly. What you don't want to do is create a big ass scene that ends up being more of a disruption than the original issue.

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49. "You know how many kids in schools don't listen to teachers/admins?"
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A lot. A lot a lot a lot.

They don't all deserve to be slammed. Really, not one of them does, unless they are posing immediate physical danger to another (or, in very rare instances, themselves).

Kids are stubborn smart-mouthed assholes a lot of the time. It's up to teachers/admins/police to rise above that and hold themselves to a higher standard of temperament.

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168. "well said"
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53. "http://i.minus.com/izA8HlTTNn5RZ.gif"
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>The cop went overboard...but this isn't a race factor...the
>teacher and principal are black...

Da fuck kinda "Im not racist, my best friend is Black" response is this, Duke?

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55. "No one here will give you a straight answer to this:"
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>How would you have gotten her out of the classroom???


Edit: And, for the record, let me just say that I'd be gathering family to go "looking" for that security guard if that was my child. Completely despicable.

  

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59. "I wouldn't have tried is a straight answer."
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And I think that's most people's position.

The goal of removing her from the class is to prevent her from being a distraction. And punish her.

She can be punished other ways at a later time.

Whatever distraction she was causing couldn't have been as bad as the distraction (among other negative impacts) of seeing a classmate being brutalized by police in a classroom.

It's not that complicated.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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64. "What if she was playing Candy Crush at full volume?"
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Since we're making suppositions. Or --regardless of what she was doing-- she had the volume up?

You don't think that would be distracting to other kids?

Everyone here agrees that the security guard was very wrong, so there's no point in discussing that. What *hasn't* been discussed is, what *should* have been done? Leaving a child to distract other children in class isn't the best solution for the other kids. I would *not* want my kid to have to deal with that nonsense while trying to learn.

>The goal of removing her from the class is to prevent her from
>being a distraction. And punish her.
>
>She can be punished other ways at a later time.
>
>Whatever distraction she was causing couldn't have been as bad
>as the distraction (among other negative impacts) of seeing a
>classmate being brutalized by police in a classroom.
>
>It's not that complicated.

Actually, it must be *very* complicated because no one here has actually presented a idea on what should have been done. Doing nothing isn't the answer either.

  

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"she wasn't playing Candy Crush w/the volume up."
Tue Oct-27-15 12:14 PM by SoWhat

  

          

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/27/student-who-videotaped-incident-speaks-out/74664592/

^ student who recorded the video gave an interview w/details about what the girl was doing.

>Everyone here agrees that the security guard was very wrong,
>so there's no point in discussing that. What *hasn't* been
>discussed is, what *should* have been done? Leaving a child to
>distract other children in class isn't the best solution for
>the other kids. I would *not* want my kid to have to deal with
>that nonsense while trying to learn.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_mesg&forum=4&topic_id=12916786&mesg_id=12917155&page=

>Actually, it must be *very* complicated because no one here
>has actually presented a idea on what should have been done.
>Doing nothing isn't the answer either.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_mesg&forum=4&topic_id=12916786&mesg_id=12917155&page=

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62. "i gave a straight answer."
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fuck you.

  

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70. "Fair enough"
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71. "also, Frank Longo (an actual teacher) has said what he'd have done."
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and so has Regina Rose.

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67. "EXIT CLASSROOM WITH THE REST OF THE STUDENTS"
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>>How would you have gotten her out of the classroom???

i'm willing to bet she would've left an empty classroom in less than 15 minutes. i would've taken the rest of my classroom to the library.

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69. "Like, the teacher and the other students all leave?"
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I had a teacher that would do this when two kids started fighting (back in like 3rd grade). Not a bad idea. It's still disruptive, but hopefully the disruption can be minimized.

  

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72. "That's how I'd do it too if it was that bad."
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Security officer monitor the child until she's ready to go to the dean's office.

Kids who are behaving we're going to finish class out under the trees by the baseball fields and enjoy this fall weather since you're all behaving so well.*



*Obviously weather/facility permitting but you get the idea.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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78. "lol that's the library is for"
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>Security officer monitor the child until she's ready to go to
>the dean's office.
>
>Kids who are behaving we're going to finish class out under
>the trees by the baseball fields and enjoy this fall weather
>since you're all behaving so well.*
>
>
>
>*Obviously weather/facility permitting but you get the idea.

there's an empty classroom somewhere (teachers' preparation period)

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84. "or that. it's been a while since i've been in a high school man"
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we used to have class outside every now and again as a "treat" though. not sure if that's common or not.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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75. "classroom of 30: teacher + 29 students exit."
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leave the unresponsive student back. if the student messes up the classroom take her ass to jail. i'm not going to let one student stop 29 other students from getting their education.

document all the unresponsive students' behaviors before the incident, document what time the classroom exited and the staff/authorities were contacted.

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77. "I'd do that if I thought the student was being truly disruptive."
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If she was just texting or playing Candy Crush, I would've just let her continue to do so and rack up her punishment that she may receive as she heads out the door.

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89. "i read the account of the student filming...it's admin's fault"
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it was the admin who decided to call the SRO. teacher did the right thing and called the admin. adults could've handled the situation a lot better. appropriate split second decisions by the adults would've kept this an everyday occurrence and prevented it from becoming the national story that it is...

the SRO will probably keep his job.

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92. "Honestly, the teacher didn't need to call the admin either."
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97. "very true."
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the power struggle over cell phones in high schools is a nationwide epidemic...

every parent and student signs a cell phone contract before the school year ends. if you're cellphone is out during school hours w/o permission, your phone gets taken away and parent has to collect it after school.

sometimes i'll take kids' cellphones away and tell them "you can get your phone back when the period ends." i'll even try to trick them into giving it up by saying shit like "that's a cool phone. cool phone case. is that a 6s? how do you like it?" or "you can charge it while it's on my desk."

but most of the time its thoughts of "if only your parents knew how you acted in school..."

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218. "umm, if im the disruptive student im leaving with the class...lol"
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like, it's not that easy imo. I would think a student who is being difficult will continue to make t difficult when you try to clear the classroom.

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456. "RE: umm, if im the disruptive student im leaving with the class...lol"
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>like, it's not that easy imo. I would think a student who is
>being difficult will continue to make t difficult when you try
>to clear the classroom.
>
>

that's what i love about the teenage mind: easily manipulated.

"i'f i'm the disruptive student i'm leaving with the class"
-as school staff, that's the results i want. it's peer pressure. everyone else is leaving.

"i would think a student who is being difficult will continue to make it difficult when you try to clear the classroom"
-how would they make it difficult? by getting out of their seat? that's the results i want lol

no snark. it's easier said than done.

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66. "EXIT CLASSROOM WITH THE REST OF THE STUDENTS"
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bet she would've left an empty classroom in less than 15 minutes.

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301. "She didn't need to be expelled from the classroom..."
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unless she was being loud/violent and disrupting others. All the teacher needed to do was to get the other students occupied and then they could've addressed her without it ever needing to be a scene.

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397. "you know this shit happens all the time, right?"
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kids refusing to comply in classrooms?

And it almost never ends up in a child being thrown across a class by a roid raging cop

  

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58. "SROs are only supposed to use force when necessary..."
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i.e. stopping a fight or a person swinging on them.

I don't see how anyone can cosign that level of force. At all.

  

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63. "excessive force"
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73. "They're both wrong"
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74. "They were both wrong, but there's a solution to this kind of shit"
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1. The teacher asks her to stop fuckin with her phone, she didn't. When I was in school acting like that was grounds for a suspension and a call to the folks to make sure they knew why I was suspended.

2. Cop didn't need to get *that* physical, but he did need to get her out of the classroom when so ordered by the faculty. Find a better way.

The solution: Ban cell phones from the classrooms. Go back to the way we used to have it. If there was a family emergency, call the school, the school will get your kid out of class and you come pick them up or whatever. There is never a valid reason for a kid to have a phone in class.

I've heard of at least one school going so far as to deploy GSM/CDMA jammers for the classrooms. Pull out the phone all you want, you ain't gettin a signal. Need to use it? Give a valid reason and step outside the classroom.



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79. "Plenty of schools do have this, including mine."
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>The solution: Ban cell phones from the classrooms. Go back to
>the way we used to have it. If there was a family emergency,
>call the school, the school will get your kid out of class and
>you come pick them up or whatever. There is never a valid
>reason for a kid to have a phone in class.

But that doesn't stop kids from bringing them and keeping them in their backpacks. And it doesn't stop rebellious kids from trying to text/snapchat during school.

I don't have the statistics, but I'd be surprised if the number of schools enforcing this hasn't risen annually.

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90. "let 'em keep the phones then, but use these"
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http://www.thesignaljammer.com/pages/School-%7B47%7D-Classroom-Cell-Phone-Jamming.html


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93. "It's not a problem for 99% of students."
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The policy is simple: if we see or hear your phone, 1 day suspension.

If you pull it out or if it rings, 1 day suspension.

The overwhelming majority of kids either don't bring their phone or don't pull it out of their backpack ever.

A couple always try to test the policy.

If a kid was texting in my class, I'd tell the kid to put it away. If the kid didn't, I'm attempt to take it, if I knew the kid well enough. If not, I would do what I said above in the post. A kid texting in class isn't really disruptive, it's just disrespectful. I'm fine with a kid disrespecting me, as long as he/she knows the consequence.

The school doesn't need to put jammers in place just for a couple of disrespectful kids.

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116. "just because you didn't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't."
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These lil kids are sneaky as shit. This is epitomized by my 17 year old. I had to clamp down on her shit waaaay beyond Big Brother because she kept trying to skirt around the rules... And she's home schooled.

During school hours there's to be no cellphone usage at all and you're only to use your computer for school related shit. We thought she was complying until we found that she had her old phone, which was the same model as her current one but broken, put up where we could see it and had the working phone in her possession.

I caught her.

Now that her phone has been taken, she set out to find a way around that. She pulled out her old Android phone and started using it on wifi. One day I happen to run a scan on my network while sharpening my skills using Nmap, found one too many devices on the network and tracked it to her room. She was grounded for it.

Repeat this for her tablets. Technically she has three of them, a 10" joint and two generic 7" tablets the oldest of which she has sworn was so slow it was unusable. I caught her on her two "good" tablets but didn't worry about the other one 'cause it was unusable. Days later I did another sweep of the network and found another device on it. It was her old supposedly unusable tablet. Turns out one afternoon she cleaned off all of the junk that made it run like shit and the thing was working just fine. Grounded for a month after this.

So now all of her shit has been confiscated... Then K12 sent her a Kindle e-reader for her new books. I told the wife one of my coworkers back inna day had one and the thing had a web browser for internet access. My daughter insisted it didn't and the wife sided with her. My daughter ALWAYS had it with her. A month later she left it in the bathroom. I found it and it was opened up to a web page. She got in serious trouble for this one because she played my wife into defending her.

So... everything taken away... You'd think she would get the message: No fucking off during school hours.

HA!

She now tried to use her PC. So far I've caught her:

Clearing her history to avoid us finding out she was fucking off during school hours (which we found anyways)
Using incognito mode in Chrome to avoid the missus and I checking her history.
Using multiple browsers to evade us.
Using a VPN to keep her browsing from showing up in the firewall/router logs.

Finally, I got to the point where I had enough. I now have TightVNC server installed on her machine. I did it in a manner where she can't uninstall it herself (even though she has full admin rights), she can't even see it in add/remove programs, the directory can't be touched by anyone other than me on my login, and in starts at boot.

Now if she tries some shit and I happen to jump on there for a spot check, I can see it happening and I'll start up Cam Studio to take a recording of it in action.

She tried to do it once. Denied the whole shit too even got indignant and insisted I check her machine for any trace of it happening. When I replayed the video of her fucking around on FB, Twitter, and IG (among other things) she was grounded and almost caught a belt for trying to lie like that. She didn't realize I had the ability to record her activities like that.

I have no doubt she's going to try some other shit soon.

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119. "There's so much awesome in this post I can't tackle it all"
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but Ill say you've got an awesome future tech geek if she's running VPN's to avoid you guys catching her, LOL.

Is there a reason why you guys are so diligent with the web browsing or is it just to instill discipline? Reason I ask is because she's pretty old for such heavy handed tactics imho.

  

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127. "she's gotten off track a number of times due to it"
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>but Ill say you've got an awesome future tech geek if she's
>running VPN's to avoid you guys catching her, LOL.

She's in classes for game development. The younger two are as well.

>
>Is there a reason why you guys are so diligent with the web
>browsing or is it just to instill discipline? Reason I ask is
>because she's pretty old for such heavy handed tactics imho.


She needs to stay on task. The younger two have no problem getting up and getting done with their school work each day, but the 17 year old has always been problematic. We found out she was failing a few classes last year and it turned out that while she was in her teacher led classes she was screwing around on FB and whatnot and not paying attention.

The kids have set hours for "free time" on their computers, hers is longer. However she's been found to "forget" to put up her devices and sit on them all night. I found her in possession of her older sister's laptop one night a couple of years ago and when we checked it's history we found that she had been on it the night before as late as 4am.

Even recently, the oldest sometimes leaves her laptop and it always falls into her hands and she's on it all night.


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80. "Okp never fails to disappoint"
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This shit is called child abuse.

  

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82. "thank you "
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81. "that was just a cracker trying to show her who was boss"
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the solution is suspension/parent teacher conference
anything other than putting your hands on her
she posed no physical threat

  

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87. "something tells me that guy would behave the same with any color"
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94. "Maybe, but folks wouldn't be as loud & proud to blame the victim tho if ..."
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weren't a Black girl.

I mean there are (maybe?) Black men in this thread on some, "Well, a teenager did not do what the teacher asked her to do! How else do you get Black girls to follow the classroom rules but w/out violently assaulting them?!"








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96. "i disagree...."
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101. "In the gawker article there have been claims made against him for..."
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“recklessly targets African-American students with allegations of gang membership and criminal gang activity” is pending.

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91. "The fact is the if she was a white female no force would've been used. "
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So people can stop pretending that race is not the issue or that that failure to comply warranted such force.

Stop playing the Stupid Game and THINK!



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115. "not disagreeing but would a white girl act out that way?"
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I've been in plenty of class rooms and have to be honest it's only the black and Latino kids I've seen act this way (on rare occasion white males) and I'm not defending the cop just saying maybe we don't know how the situation would be handled with a white girl because it's rare for them to have the same kind of background perhaps or same manner of misbehaving.

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117. "WOW."
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>I've been in plenty of class rooms and have to be honest it's
>only the black and Latino kids I've seen act this way (on rare
>occasion white males) and I'm not defending the cop just
>saying maybe we don't know how the situation would be handled
>with a white girl because it's rare for them to have the same
>kind of background perhaps or same manner of misbehaving.

*smh*

fuck you.

  

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120. "perfect example of how ignorance is dangerous. *smh*"
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133. "congrats you've jumped all the way to the conclusion "
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your feelings betray you.

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132. "wow for reporting what I've seen in the classroom?"
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Not sorry if it bothers you though.

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125. "yikes"
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126. "+2 points for race hate. +1 point for caping for white girls"
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YOU'VE WON TODAY'S AWARD!!!

  

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136. "you didn't read that did you?"
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have you been in any elementary, junior high, or high schools?

I asked a question and posted an experience you got in your feelings and read something I didn't write. I'll type it again though.

Black and Latino kids I have seen act out more often than any other group while I was in the classroom 8 hours a day for about 6 months. White girls were the least likely. That is what I observed. How will you misconstrue that?

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141. "Because its a stereotype"
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You can say something like this:

I've been in plenty of class rooms and have to be honest it's only the black and Latino kids I've seen act this way (on rare occasion white males)"

and it can be factual, the problem is the conclusion that you draw; white girls are less prone to 'act up in class' and minority kids are is problematic because you've got shitty schools of a wide variety across the US. I can walk outside of my door in Gentrifying Hood, USA and say "these old darkies are crackheads but the young white folks are fine" but I know that i am taking a small unique section of the populace and painting a BROAD ass brush (I also know cause I have been around the white kids getting coked up, lol. they are worse then some of the regulars, lol)



>have you been in any elementary, junior high, or high
>schools?
>
>I asked a question and posted an experience you got in your
>feelings and read something I didn't write. I'll type it again
>though.
>
>Black and Latino kids I have seen act out more often than any
>other group while I was in the classroom 8 hours a day for
>about 6 months. White girls were the least likely. That is
>what I observed. How will you misconstrue that?

  

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145. "my conclusion is they are less likely to act out in 'that way'"
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not that they don't act out and they act out just as much as anyone else, but often not in that particular fashion.

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130. "yoooooooooooooooo you really went there"
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137. "where is there? A report form my time teaching in the school system? "
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I guess I should have not been honest?

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140. "what city "
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142. "Montgomery County Maryland "
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Schools were mostly white, latino, black.

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144. "LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...YO STOP!!!!!!!!"
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Nigga said Montgomery County

LMAO

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146. "Okay if you want to come at it that way."
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I'm talking about patterns of behavior -- doesn't really matter what city they manifest in.

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149. "people from MoCo are rich n docile..so the white folks "
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are even moreso


and in my experience,hs, and city

white girls can and DO get just as huffy wit authority...
they just don't go to the physical

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213. "you have an interesting definition of rich "
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222. "I guess the rest of the world does too bruh....#11 "
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States

used to be higher than that...but u know that already

and the school system ain't typical or average...
Montgomery Blair and Wheaton don't look like your typical hs

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228. "it's not a pissing contest and those schools aren't in the majority "
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At the end of the day I just want to to see black children conduct themselves with regard for their own safety in the face of those who have little regard for it as there is more than enough information and evidence out there to know what we're dealing with.

Will that prevent all cases such as this or worse from happening --no, but it will lower the occasions for them to happen. There are other students who can also reap injustice based on their ethnicity (I'm looking at you middle easterners, Indians, and Pakistanis) and odds are were they in a situation such as this it may not have gotten to this level and there's something I think we as black people can learn from that. That is all.

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250. "like white kids do huh"
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>>>At the end of the day I just want to to see black children conduct themselves with regard for their own safety in the face of those who have little regard for it


because having a cell phone in the class is risking their safety

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267. "or Asian or Arab or Indian -- take your pick"
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and act like you know what time it is while you're at it.

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268. "while I'm @ it?... check your tone playboy"
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269. "Don't call me by my government name on these boards. "
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actually -- all snark aside. As far as I'm concerned this isn't about white kids. This is about what can be done by us for us to help protect us. I don't mind reiterating that and I've tried to make it clear. I hope you at least understand what I'm trying to say even if you don't agree.

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285. "I have no idea what u talkin about with government names"
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in order for us to 'protect' us we need us to identify the enemy/threats/barriers

and as shown in this here post and the world....we(as a people) can't agree on that


I just know its beyond sad to watch that video:
as a #1 a man #2 a father #3 a Black man
and make ANY semblance of justification for dudes actions

a little girl with a damn cell phone gotta be viewed as the reason for her own assault...not staying after/suspension/principles office/call your mother....assault


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300. "who is justifying the officers actions in this (our) exchange? "
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>in order for us to 'protect' us we need us to identify the
>enemy/threats/barriers
>
>and as shown in this here post and the world....we(as a
>people) can't agree on that

Which is a damn shame because it should be obvious.

>I just know its beyond sad to watch that video:
> as a #1 a man #2 a father #3 a Black man
>and make ANY semblance of justification for dudes actions

>a little girl with a damn cell phone gotta be viewed as the
>reason for her own assault...not staying
>after/suspension/principles office/call your
>mother....assault

No one is saying she is the reason for her assault. I hope that's not the take away from this back and forth. That officer came there with the intent to act as he did. He was on a collision course and when something is barreling towards you you have to get out of the way or get hit by it. Not enough of our kids are taught that while other kids are and I'll leave it at that.

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391. "white kids arent taught to respect authority or get out of the way..."
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I don't see how you can scream white supremacy yet say you never see white girls standing up to authority

you are acting like this black girl was swinging on this officer.

he dragged her like it was the 60's...


take that L and keep it movin bruh, you fucked up on this one.

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395. "I said 'in that way' and you can substitute AFRICAN, ARAB, CHINESE"
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there is a point where the kid complies if it even goes as far as armed dudes coming into the room. That or they find another way to carry on that is more subversive or whatever. This is what I've observed in my experience and you best believe the kids from those groups above are being taught the nature of the beast.

White kids from my observation and what I've heard from parents who are white get a type of lesson as well. Less vilifying of the police but certainly heavy on pro-compliance.

This isn't about winning anything. L'isms do not apply.

wait let me get the loud and wrong "fuck that model minority bullshit!!" response out of the way as well.

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400. "I bet you if we were IN Africa, Arabia or China you would find"
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disruptive kids who 'act in that way'

the 5 or 6 minority IMMIGRANTS you see ain't a true representation of their peoples


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405. "But we aren't. Stop arguing just to argue. "
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and in schools which are controlled environments to a degree it's valid. Also those groups I believe are well into second gen status so to say immigrants is inaccurate. How about we throw Jewish in the mix -- just to spice things up a bit?

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409. "nah -- I've always had a 'know your enemy' stance"
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see the Eric Garner post.

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138. "Oh wait we're mad because I said we have different backgrounds"
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and that kids can act out differently based on said backgrounds? Okay now I get it.

To those that wan't to play "oooohhhh" I hate to break it to you but there is a difference in how children of various ethnic and economic backgrounds relate to authority.

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143. "White kids don't challenge authority?"
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May I invite you to come hang out in some 'white' schools in the NYC area


>and that kids can act out differently based on said
>backgrounds? Okay now I get it.
>
>To those that wan't to play "oooohhhh" I hate to break it to
>you but there is a difference in how children of various
>ethnic and economic backgrounds relate to authority.

  

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147. "Not saying they don't - Here in my laughable neck of the woods "
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it would appear that the manner in which it is challenged differs. New York is a different animal which is something I hope we can agree on.

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173. "I knew this white supremact act was some bullshit... lmao"
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180. "I know you've been waiting a long time to type that"
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396. "This isnt the first time I typed it.."
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but this is a perfect time to retype it

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399. "how can you talk about racism if you don't talk about white supremacy?"
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another topic for another day perhaps.

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194. "my friend! i can't believe you typed this."
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the rest of the repliers should think you a wild boy for this.

and as valid as your experience in moco schools are - have you ever seen a student slammed like this?

do you realize moco is where nice whites go to live & learn. there are plenty of poor and ridiculous whites all over the country.

moco and your experience in it is too small of a sample to bring into this conversation.

  

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195. "I know -- questions about our own actions are dangerous in general"
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>the rest of the repliers should think you a wild boy for
>this.

That's fine. I wouldn't really walk any of it back elaborate or rephrase though sure.

>and as valid as your experience in moco schools are - have you
>ever seen a student slammed like this?

Of course not (in America) and I'm not even saying it's okay or acceptable. I think people are responding to that officers action mixed with their emotions which is always dangerous when it comes to posing questions.

>do you realize moco is where nice whites go to live & learn.
>there are plenty of poor and ridiculous whites all over the
>country.

I touched on that though annd there are plenty of poor whites in moco e.g. Germantown . Whites with a background that may be closer to resembling what seems to be more common among blacks and Latinos would likely act similarly. I said "rare" in my original comment because not "a lot" of whites (compared to the overall population of poor or lower income whites) of similar social/economic backgrounds live among lower income blacks therefore it may be rare or less likely depending on the area/city/district. Where there are higher cocentrations with overlap you'd likely see it more often, but really how many areas like that are there? I'm guessing not many.

>moco and your experience in it is too small of a sample to
>bring into this conversation.

Disagree -- we're talking about patterns of behaviour which can be applied to any school district as I'm sure many of us have seen.

"Hey! Quit writing in blue write that in red!!" For example.

I don't like what I'm seeing just as much as anyone else, but I also don't like seeing our own kids act unwisely in the face of authority and I've seen it a lot and I've seen kids of other backgrounds act differently in the face of that same authority some similar some not. Folks can "feel" about it how they like -- that's okay just not productive.

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196. "children will act unwisely. count on that."
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and the adults in the situation should always be held more accountable, at every turn.

they failed this little girl.

you failed her too, cause your observation is disgustingly dangerous to black youths, limited in scope and painted by prejudice.

i'd feel much better about this if you realized that her skin color doesn't make her less deserving of compassionate authority.

  

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198. "I'm talking about behavior you're talking about something else"
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>and the adults in the situation should always be held more
>accountable, at every turn.

I'm not talking about the adults other than to say they were all wrong including whoever didn't teach this girl how interact with adults who look like her i.e. the teacher and adults who can and will hurt her. Somebody is supposed to be caring for this kid outside of school they may have failed her too.

>they failed this little girl.
>
>you failed her too, cause your observation is disgustingly
>dangerous to black youths, limited in scope and painted by
>prejudice.

Don't be like that. Especially if you count yourself among those that use the word "nigger" to refer to your own folks. That wouldn't be right.

>i'd feel much better about this if you realized that her skin
>color doesn't make her less deserving of compassionate
>authority.

Don't you get all emotional on me too. I'm not saying she's unworthy of compassion. Nobody is behaving properly in this scenario -- that's just the truth.

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201. "'nobody is behaving properly in this scenario -- that's just the truth'"
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we agree here.

what's more is that the 'adults' in the situation are to be held accountable.

why look at the BLACK child and say - well, WHITE children don't act like this?

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>we agree here.
>
>what's more is that the 'adults' in the situation are to be
>held accountable.

Yes no debate there.

>why look at the BLACK child and say - well, WHITE children
>don't act like this?

I didn't say that and that's not the context. The context is would a white (or other non black or perhaps non latino child) act out in such a way that would get the situation to that level? The answer is "yes" the debate is with what degree of regularity.

>why look at it like that?

Looking at it like that (in the context I outlined) is an attempt by me to illustrate what I believe is a need for our children to be taught survival strategies as the nature of life in this country will always come at them in a way similar to the way this officer did. They need to learn how to avoid this particular type of scenario which is and was entirely possible (had that knowledge been there). The officer and teacher are too far gone to be reached the student can still be taught. Got to get them while they're young.

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207. "no. you wil not absolve the adults for their behavior."
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>I didn't say that and that's not the context. The context is
>would a white (or other non black or perhaps non latino child)
>act out in such a way that would get the situation to that
>level? The answer is "yes" the debate is with what degree of
>regularity.

this doesn't matter. the comparison has no room in this conversation.

>>why look at it like that?
>
>Looking at it like that (in the context I outlined) is an
>attempt by me to illustrate what I believe is a need for our
>children to be taught survival strategies as the nature of
>life in this country will always come at them in a way similar
>to the way this officer did. They need to learn how to avoid
>this particular type of scenario which is and was entirely
>possible (had that knowledge been there). The officer and
>teacher are too far gone to be reached the student can still
>be taught. Got to get them while they're young.

survival strategies??

she's in school. a 'safe place'. there is no survival strategy for a child being in a classroom. that institution needs to be held fully accountable.

the officer and teacher are too far gone? that thinking needs to be reversed. and the situation needs to be fixed.

those people don't need to be neither an officer nor a teacher.

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212. "I'm not absolving them they should be disciplined but they won't change"
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as people. I think that's a fair statement.

>this doesn't matter. the comparison has no room in this
>conversation.

It has room, but we can disagree on that. I mean we got to talk about it somewhere right? The discussion can't always be about what we wish the system would do, but ultimately can't or won't.

>>>why look at it like that?
>>
>>Looking at it like that (in the context I outlined) is an
>>attempt by me to illustrate what I believe is a need for our
>>children to be taught survival strategies as the nature of
>>life in this country will always come at them in a way
>similar
>>to the way this officer did. They need to learn how to avoid
>>this particular type of scenario which is and was entirely
>>possible (had that knowledge been there). The officer and
>>teacher are too far gone to be reached the student can still
>>be taught. Got to get them while they're young.
>
>survival strategies??
>
>she's in school. a 'safe place'. there is no survival strategy
>for a child being in a classroom. that institution needs to be
>held fully accountable.

Kids get shot in school. They aren't safe places (probably never really were) and being a black child or person has never been safe so we have to find effective ways to protect ourselves. Not being where your enemy expects you to be is one such way (metaphorically speaking in this case).

>the officer and teacher are too far gone? that thinking needs
>to be reversed. and the situation needs to be fixed.

Sad but true IMO getting rid of them is the only fix and sadly it's a temporary one. There's a lot of guys like that out there. We can protect and educate our kids more effectively than changing the hearts and minds of those with messed up dispositions -- that's all I'm getting at.

>those people don't need to be neither an officer nor a
>teacher.
>
>get it?

For sure and they shouldn't be called men either. I've never stated they were in the right.

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why is the suburban Negro always the most radical? comically radical...

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overall i agree with you based on my anecdotal experience and those of the 3-4 public school teachers i know
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318. "Heaven forbid our kids be taught how to avoid their enemies "
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And heaven help any black person who chooses to first ask what can be done as a black person to better survive in a land that is against them seeing as how that person can not change the land.

I swear this whole forsaken country is a lost cause.

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Act like what?? The girl didn't do anything besides not giving authority figures her damn cell phone. I'm confused as to why people are expecting absolute obedience from a fucking teenager. I've taught high school and now college. All kids from 14-20 are jerks. All of them. I've had white girls be openly disrespectful to me in high school and college. Black people need to stop buying into the idea that our kids are anymore poorly behaved than others kids. The only difference is that our kids face higher levels of punishment when they act up.

  

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388. "Round and round. This is why we cant have nice things. "
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>Act like what??
First for the God knows what time -- no adult acted properly in this. Second -- no body is without guilt in this. We know what the adults did wrong right? Right!? What about the young lady? Her actions are off limits or something? In regard to here actions -- how many levels of authority did she go through? Teacher asked she refused. Vice Principal asked she refused. Gun wielding white person comes in.

By the time a gun wielding white person enters the equation how would an African kid react? How would a Chinese kid react? How would an Indian kid react? How would an Arab kid react? My "feeling" is the kid would comply at that point if it even got that far. Maybe I'm wrong, but either way in 2015 after 100's of years of the same patterns of behavior among the "authorities" there are cultural things we should be teaching out kids. Things like "DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH THESE PEOPLE THEY CAN AND WILL MURDER YOU". There's a middle eastern family telling their kids that right now.


The girl didn't do anything besides not
>giving authority figures her damn cell phone. I'm confused as
>to why people are expecting absolute obedience from a fucking
>teenager. I've taught high school and now college. All kids
>from 14-20 are jerks. All of them. I've had white girls be
>openly disrespectful to me in high school and college.

In the high school setting at what point do these girls comply or do they ride it out until the guns show up? Serious question.

Black people need to stop buying into the idea that our kids are
>anymore poorly behaved than others kids.

This isn't my focus, my focus is that our kids are not being trained how to deal with what you describe below.

The only difference
>is that our kids face higher levels of punishment when they
>act up.

True. So why aren't our kids acting with this knowledge? Fair question no?

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463. "Foh with nice things...I'm trying to get free"
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>>Act like what??
>First for the God knows what time -- no adult acted properly
>in this. Second -- no body is without guilt in this. We know
>what the adults did wrong right? Right!? What about the young
>lady? Her actions are off limits or something? In regard to
>here actions -- how many levels of authority did she go
>through? Teacher asked she refused. Vice Principal asked she
>refused. Gun wielding white person comes in.

The adults are the trained professionals. She is a CHILD who recently lost her mother and was placed in foster care. Anyone working in a school setting should know when a kid is in crisis. Her actions are immaterial.



>By the time a gun wielding white person enters the equation
>how would an African kid react? How would a Chinese kid react?
>How would an Indian kid react? How would an Arab kid react? My
>"feeling" is the kid would comply at that point if it even got
>that far. Maybe I'm wrong, but either way in 2015 after 100's
>of years of the same patterns of behavior among the
>"authorities" there are cultural things we should be teaching
>out kids. Things like "DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH THESE PEOPLE
>THEY CAN AND WILL MURDER YOU". There's a middle eastern family
>telling their kids that right now.

She's African too. Do you mean an African immigrant? Well the Liberian and Malian kids in the two Philly public school I taught in turned up on the daily. So did the Cambodian and Vietnamese kids. Foh with your stereotypical model minority ideals. We don't need to teach our kids to obey authority figures. We need to teach them to be strategic and how to defend themselves against racist attacks.

>The girl didn't do anything besides not
>>giving authority figures her damn cell phone. I'm confused
>as
>>to why people are expecting absolute obedience from a
>fucking
>>teenager. I've taught high school and now college. All kids
>>from 14-20 are jerks. All of them. I've had white girls be
>>openly disrespectful to me in high school and college.
>
>In the high school setting at what point do these girls comply
>or do they ride it out until the guns show up? Serious
>question.

Some complied, some didn't. I never called an administrator to handle anything in my class. That indicates the teacher has poor classroom management skills. I'd ask them to put it away. Some did. The ones who didn't were reminded of the consequence and written up. I then moved on with my lesson. The teacher in this case was an idiot. It's a school, not a prison. Or maybe our public schools are actually prisons these days. Smh.

>Black people need to stop buying into the idea that our kids
>are
>>anymore poorly behaved than others kids.
>
>This isn't my focus, my focus is that our kids are not being
>trained how to deal with what you describe below.


How should we train them. Again, I believe we should teach our kids to be strategic and how to defend themselves. I'm not down with the idea of teaching obedience. They're human beings.


> The only difference
>>is that our kids face higher levels of punishment when they
>>act up.
>
>True. So why aren't our kids acting with this knowledge? Fair
>question no?

Because they're kids, not robots. Kids make mistakes. They do dumb things. They talk back. They forget they're black and have to be more careful, because that kind of thinking is unnatural and just wrong.

  

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466. "If you wan't freedom get on a plane to some other country."
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Where this doesn't happen often if at all.

>The adults are the trained professionals. She is a CHILD who
>recently lost her mother and was placed in foster care. Anyone
>working in a school setting should know when a kid is in
>crisis. Her actions are immaterial.

Where is the disagreement about the adults actions? This information about her particular circumstance is new info so please don't bring it up like people knew that from the jump and in light of those details I'd agree -- it's immaterial.

I do still stand by what I said as far as seeing this type of obstinate refusal as being something that seems to be more common among our kids than it is among others in my classroom experience though so do with that what you will. I know it's not a popular statement -- so be it.

>She's African too. Do you mean an African immigrant? Well the
>Liberian and Malian kids in the two Philly public school I
>taught in turned up on the daily. So did the Cambodian and
>Vietnamese kids. Foh with your stereotypical model minority
>ideals.
go

I already addressed this type of emotional response with Ambient1. You can search for it if you like and I mean culturally African not of African middle passage descent. Right now it sounds like you're describing a kid here or there. Are you saying just as many, more than, or fewer than the African American kids?

We don't need to teach our kids to obey authority
>figures. We need to teach them to be strategic and how to
>defend themselves against racist attacks.

This is where I want to tap out because I said the exact same thing so I don't understand why you're repeating it back to me in a more confusing manner. I say more confusing because not including instruction about when to obey authority and the value to self in doing so as a child seems unwise and therefore not strategic at all.


>>In the high school setting at what point do these girls
>comply
>>or do they ride it out until the guns show up? Serious
>>question.
>
>Some complied, some didn't. I never called an administrator to
>handle anything in my class. That indicates the teacher has
>poor classroom management skills. I'd ask them to put it away.
>Some did. The ones who didn't were reminded of the consequence
>and written up. I then moved on with my lesson. The teacher in
>this case was an idiot. It's a school, not a prison. Or maybe
>our public schools are actually prisons these days. Smh.

Yes they pretty much are. Same things happen in prison as they do in schools these days. Again we're in agreement about the adults

>>Black people need to stop buying into the idea that our kids
>>are
>>>anymore poorly behaved than others kids.
>>
>>This isn't my focus, my focus is that our kids are not being
>>trained how to deal with what you describe below.
>
>
>How should we train them. Again, I believe we should teach our
>kids to be strategic and how to defend themselves. I'm not
>down with the idea of teaching obedience. They're human
>beings.

As a kid obedience is the safest route and one must learn the rules before they can successfully bend or break them right? And for real don't kids need to obey their folks? That in and of itself can lead to better outcomes in school, but teaching children the reality of American society and history are good starting points. Kids need to know that the country is and always will be anti black and that at the end of the day authority figures are looking for them first so be on guard and learn what the blind spots are. It shouldn't have to be that way, but it is.

>
>> The only difference
>>>is that our kids face higher levels of punishment when they
>>>act up.
>>
>>True. So why aren't our kids acting with this knowledge?
>Fair
>>question no?
>
>Because they're kids, not robots. Kids make mistakes. They do
>dumb things. They talk back. They forget they're black and
>have to be more careful, because that kind of thinking is
>unnatural and just wrong.

That's a valid answer, but so is that they aren't getting enough of that knowledge and even now our own culture is betraying us. It's hard to find any messaging in what children are absorbing that would help re-enforce that. And of course it's unnatural and wrong that's why my belief is that we should be teaching our kids a second language, promoting STEM based educations, and hopefully they can at least have the option to leave this place and live a more natural existence somewhere else, but hey -- a lot of us think we have it good here.

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468. "No thanks...I'll stay and fight for freedom in the land my"
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people have inhabited for 400 plus years.

>Where this doesn't happen often if at all.
>
>>The adults are the trained professionals. She is a CHILD who
>>recently lost her mother and was placed in foster care.
>Anyone
>>working in a school setting should know when a kid is in
>>crisis. Her actions are immaterial.
>
>Where is the disagreement about the adults actions? This
>information about her particular circumstance is new info so
>please don't bring it up like people knew that from the jump
>and in light of those details I'd agree -- it's immaterial.

Don't be terse with me because okp is always late on everything these days. I had this info the same day the initial story broke.

>I do still stand by what I said as far as seeing this type of
>obstinate refusal as being something that seems to be more
>common among our kids than it is among others in my classroom
>experience though so do with that what you will. I know it's
>not a popular statement -- so be it.
>
>>She's African too. Do you mean an African immigrant? Well
>the
>>Liberian and Malian kids in the two Philly public school I
>>taught in turned up on the daily. So did the Cambodian and
>>Vietnamese kids. Foh with your stereotypical model minority
>>ideals.
>go
>
>I already addressed this type of emotional response with
>Ambient1. You can search for it if you like and I mean
>culturally African not of African middle passage descent.
>Right now it sounds like you're describing a kid here or
>there. Are you saying just as many, more than, or fewer than
>the African American kids?

Lol @ your attempt to discount my point by calling it "emotional." The data proves that the model minority/perfect immigrant stories are bs. I'm saying they turned up at the same rate as the African American and white kids. Also, African American is culturally African. I see how you tried to be slick.

>
>We don't need to teach our kids to obey authority
>>figures. We need to teach them to be strategic and how to
>>defend themselves against racist attacks.
>
>This is where I want to tap out because I said the exact same
>thing so I don't understand why you're repeating it back to me
>in a more confusing manner. I say more confusing because not
>including instruction about when to obey authority and the
>value to self in doing so as a child seems unwise and
>therefore not strategic at all.
>


No we are not saying the same thing. Your idea of strategic is going along to get along. My idea is subversion.

>>>In the high school setting at what point do these girls
>>comply
>>>or do they ride it out until the guns show up? Serious
>>>question.
>>
>>Some complied, some didn't. I never called an administrator
>to
>>handle anything in my class. That indicates the teacher has
>>poor classroom management skills. I'd ask them to put it
>away.
>>Some did. The ones who didn't were reminded of the
>consequence
>>and written up. I then moved on with my lesson. The teacher
>in
>>this case was an idiot. It's a school, not a prison. Or
>maybe
>>our public schools are actually prisons these days. Smh.
>
>Yes they pretty much are. Same things happen in prison as they
>do in schools these days. Again we're in agreement about the
>adults
>
>>>Black people need to stop buying into the idea that our
>kids
>>>are
>>>>anymore poorly behaved than others kids.
>>>
>>>This isn't my focus, my focus is that our kids are not
>being
>>>trained how to deal with what you describe below.
>>
>>
>>How should we train them. Again, I believe we should teach
>our
>>kids to be strategic and how to defend themselves. I'm not
>>down with the idea of teaching obedience. They're human
>>beings.
>
>As a kid obedience is the safest route and one must learn the
>rules before they can successfully bend or break them right?
>And for real don't kids need to obey their folks? That in and
>of itself can lead to better outcomes in school, but teaching
>children the reality of American society and history are good
>starting points. Kids need to know that the country is and
>always will be anti black and that at the end of the day
>authority figures are looking for them first so be on guard
>and learn what the blind spots are. It shouldn't have to be
>that way, but it is.
>

I was never taught (at least not explicitly) to obey my parents. My Mom and Dad spent a lot of time teaching and talking to us like intelligent human beings. They taught us to think critically and we lived in a house in which we all respected each other. When we stepped out of line, there were consequences. There was never this feeling of you're a kid, so I have complete authority over you. The notion is foreign to me. My husband and I are raising our kids in the same way. Yes, they need to know all of the things you mentioned about black life in this society. However, we must also teach our kids to resist and go about life with what one of my professors called a "victorious consciousness." We have to believe we can create a better world for our kids or they'll be having the same discussions in 30 years. I mean what's the point in living if we can't offer our kids something better?

>>> The only difference
>>>>is that our kids face higher levels of punishment when
>they
>>>>act up.
>>>
>>>True. So why aren't our kids acting with this knowledge?
>>Fair
>>>question no?
>>
>>Because they're kids, not robots. Kids make mistakes. They
>do
>>dumb things. They talk back. They forget they're black and
>>have to be more careful, because that kind of thinking is
>>unnatural and just wrong.
>
>That's a valid answer, but so is that they aren't getting
>enough of that knowledge and even now our own culture is
>betraying us. It's hard to find any messaging in what children
>are absorbing that would help re-enforce that. And of course
>it's unnatural and wrong that's why my belief is that we
>should be teaching our kids a second language, promoting STEM
>based educations, and hopefully they can at least have the
>option to leave this place and live a more natural existence
>somewhere else, but hey -- a lot of us think we have it good
>here.

White supremacy is a global enterprise. All the bilingualism and STEM in the world won't save you from it. You can simply be slightly more comfortable, but not free. I want more for my kids and our people.

  

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478. "Fight what and how? But if that's what you want go for it?"
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>>Don't be terse with me because okp is always late on
>everything these days. I had this info the same day the
>initial story broke.

Okay, some of us didn't.

>>Lol @ your attempt to discount my point by calling it
>"emotional." The data proves that the model minority/perfect
>immigrant stories are bs. I'm saying they turned up at the
>same rate as the African American and white kids. Also,
>African American is culturally African. I see how you tried to
>be slick.

You're likely not interested in understanding what I'm trying to say that's fine and you're not answering my question which was how many? As many, more than, or less than? I'm not saying these groups are model groups I'm saying I have not observed this very specific approach to authority in those groups as much as I have seen in it In our own kids. That is what I have seen. I really don't get why stating what I've seen vexes people so much, but whatever -- and yes I think you're coming across as emotional and that's obviously okay. African American is just another word for black IMO, which is another word for negro, which is another word for (you see where I'm going with this).

>>We don't need to teach our kids to obey authority
>>>figures. We need to teach them to be strategic and how to
>>>defend themselves against racist attacks.
>No we are not saying the same thing. Your idea of strategic is
>going along to get along. My idea is subversion.

No I said learn the rules before you can break or bend them. At any rate would subversion.mean that instead of continuing to refuse a request one would give the appearance of compliance while continuing onward in a less overt manner? If so I've touched on that as well.
>>

>I was never taught (at least not explicitly) to obey my
>parents. My Mom and Dad spent a lot of time teaching and
>talking to us like intelligent human beings. They taught us to
>think critically and we lived in a house in which we all
>respected each other. When we stepped out of line, there were
>consequences. There was never this feeling of you're a kid, so
>I have complete authority over you. The notion is foreign to
>me. My husband and I are raising our kids in the same way.
>Yes, they need to know all of the things you mentioned about
>black life in this society. However, we must also teach our
>kids to resist and go about life with what one of my
>professors called a "victorious consciousness." We have to
>believe we can create a better world for our kids or they'll
>be having the same discussions in 30 years. I mean what's the
>point in living if we can't offer our kids something better?

I can't really answer that other than to say the better educational tools we give children the better their opportunities may be either here or abroad. I understand what you're saying about your upbringing and I agree with a lot of it, but I think questioning authority and resisting are two separate things and school IMO isn't the place for practicing that. Learn in school practice in life.

>>That's a valid answer, but so is that they aren't getting
>>enough of that knowledge and even now our own culture is
>>betraying us. It's hard to find any messaging in what
>children
>>are absorbing that would help re-enforce that. And of course
>>it's unnatural and wrong that's why my belief is that we
>>should be teaching our kids a second language, promoting
>STEM
>>based educations, and hopefully they can at least have the
>>option to leave this place and live a more natural existence
>>somewhere else, but hey -- a lot of us think we have it good here
>
>White supremacy is a global enterprise. All the bilingualism
>and STEM in the world won't save you from it. You can simply
>be slightly more comfortable, but not free. I want more for my
>kids and our people.

I'll take giving our kids more comfort if that's what's readily available there are many places where black people can and do live free lives -- just not in America.

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w/ regularity too. stop playing victim. it's a problem here but it aint race. it's about not being able to deal with these lil bastards in an effective manner.

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148. "Stop dismissing the racialized & gendered violence Black girls face b/c "
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your Black mother wasn't who you needed her to be.

And while I an replying to you, I don't think you are the only one who does this.

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220. "^^^^^this is what I think a lot of the disregard for Blk women boils dow..."
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And anyone who thinks this same thing would have happened to lil white girl is completely delusional! Completely

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377. "you say it like i aint seen it with my own two. often."
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>And anyone who thinks this same thing would have happened to
>lil white girl is completely delusional! Completely

it aint unusual for SROs to wild out like this on all races/genders. it just got caught on camera.

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261. "RIGHT??"
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Thinking like his is sickening and the issues behind it are transparent

  

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152. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6xvoOEbljM"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6xvoOEbljM

Stockton, CA. WHITE teacher drags WHITE freshman girl into pool during PE class...

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161. "my bad the girl is Latina"
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177. "Someone should crack his skull "
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6xvoOEbljM
>
>Stockton, CA. WHITE teacher drags WHITE freshman girl into
>pool during PE class...

  

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202. "wtf man...i would not want to be touching any student like that...especi..."
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one thats half naked, and trying to put them in a pool at that. Wtheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeef.

What made this dude think it was ok?

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172. "RE: The fact is the if she was a white female no force would've been use..."
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Even our own people (sub-consciously) rationalize and justify any and all brutality infected upon us.....

  

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95. "I went to one of those old school catholic elementary schools "
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You know where the nun with the bony wrist would grab you and rap you on the knuckles for doing dumb shit. Maybe this teacher is new but he should of never called the police.

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99. "LoL, omg...I will never forget Sister Irene & her arctic death grip!"
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That woman was like 4'10 & all of 75 lb, but she had the coldest hands + strongest grip...R.I.P. to her tho.

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104. "ROTFL at strongest grip"
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118. "2nd grade, several kids were lined up in front of the room..."
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and whooped with a yardstick by my teacher, an old-ish nun with ungodly strength. I can't remember what they did, but I remember her tagging all of them a few times and all the screaming. The last kid was so shook he was pleading with her, pulled out a rosary and everything praying she wouldn't whoop him. She still swatted him with that yardstick.

3rd grade same shit happened, a group of kids whooped in front of the class but in other incidents kids got them knuckles blasted with a ruler.

4th grade one kid got royally fucked up by our teacher/nun. Snatched out of his seat by his ear, yanked up to the blackboard, face slammed into the board, and a royal asswhoopin' with a yardstick 'cause he put a thumbtack in her chair and she sat on it.

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98. "Does anybody think reason we have to have "school resource officers"..."
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is because these kids today don't have any home training?

There was a time when a teacher told a student to do something they did it.

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100. "they're supposed to respond to lockdown situations"
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i think SROs started popping up everywhere after Columbine shooting.

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105. " "school resource officers" are not for what's in that video"
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107. "lol...when?"
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>>>There was a time when a teacher told a student to do something they did it.



kids been defying adults since the dawn of man

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108. "no. i think it's more about lawyers than kids."
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i think the overabundance of cops in schools is an overreaction to lawsuits filed against certain districts and/or admins.

i don't think kids have changed or that they're any worse-behaved than prior generations. i think each successive generation thinks 'today's kids' are worse-behaved than prior generations.

fuck you.

  

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113. "i'm amazed how you consistently stay on the wrong side of everything."
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thats a gift

  

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186. "School Resource Officer is the political term for Cop in School"
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Because when i went to HS...he was an officer in school...he had his car, gun, night stick, etc...

And most of the time, that officer graduated from the HS he's assigned to...

And considering that I raised in that area and in that district (Went to Richland Northeast...Spring Valley was our rival)...Yeah...they are needed...

Gang activity is rampant in the area...I honestly think they need more...that HS probably has close to 2000 students...

  

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258. "the reason why they are needed is obvious"
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ever step foot into a bad urban high school?
whether home training, poverty, hiphop or whatever else is to blame iono
i rather have them in schools maintaining order so the few focused kids can learn

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411. "no. it's a part of the militarization of american private life"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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449. "im struggling to see the private part *snickers*"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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103. "Glad some of yall arent teachers...."
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106. "Glad some of these folks aren't parents either. "
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110. "My kid acts up in class, PUNCH HER IN THE FUCKING FACE"
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111. "^ old school."
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back when kids knew their place and NEVER acted up.

fuck you.

  

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169. "that good home training "
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187. "man...if i got dragged like that child did..."
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my parents would have done way more at home because being disrespectful in the classroom wasn't tolerated...

Cop was out of line...he will probably lose his job...

One of my buddies back home knows the officer...works out at the same gym...

  

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192. "using terror to keep kids in line always worked."
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that's why our parents have so few stories about all of the times they were attacked by their caregivers.

and that's why all of us who were brutalized by the ppl who love us were such perfectly behaved kids. unlike kids today! they misbehave and we never did b/c we were raised by monstrous ppl who were not afraid to use weaponry against us to keep us in line!

fuck you.

  

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288. "basically nm "
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289. "RE: using terror to keep kids in line always worked."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEopQNxqi4

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114. "Kids that don't follow orders need to be tazed. Repeatedly."
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That'll learn 'em to give me any guff.

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134. "Why not cut off a hand?"
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If they don't learn after two times then move to the feet.

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159. "I think you should be able to pith a kid right there in the classroom"
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Why give them a second chance to be a fuck up?

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135. "RE: SC Resource Officer Slams (female) Student"
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I just think this was completely wrong this shouldn't be happening. What if the girl is mentally disturbed and she hasn't been diagnosed for her mental state. This is not how we would treat the mentally ill so why treat a child like this because they are not following your orders. Was she trying to harm someone? Was she being aggressive towards the officer? NO....This little situation could lead her to hate law enforcement and engage in devious behaviors as a result of her hatred. Not only her but that little incident could potentially harm other children who witnessed it mentally. It's not about him removing her from her seat it is about how he did it. Grabbing her around the neck was completely unjustified in my opinion. A simple grab of the arm and standing her up would of worked and maybe explaining to her that if she didn't cooperate what could happen. She didn't get a warning he just snapped. Anybody that thinks that shit was ok really has some issues going on. I think anybody after seeing that happen to their son or daughter would probably want to kill that officer. I know I would.

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150. "why are folks so quick to jump to a "mentally disturbed" defense???"
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especially these days.


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286. "RE: why are folks so quick to jump to a "mentally disturbed" defense???"
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Because when people are acting out in that manner there is usually some form of mental disturbance going on. And the truth is we have so many people in the U.S. suffering from some form of depression or anxiety some people are aware of it and some are not aware that they are suffering. Not saying that this is the case in this situation just a suggestion on what could be going on with her. So when police are addressing a situation like this they should approach it with the mind state that this person may be a little crazy. The person may not be able to control themselves or their thoughts and police should be mindful of that. At the end of the day the officer was completely wrong and that is why he was fired.

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139. "Adrian Peterson"
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In a recent Virginia parenting workshop there was tons of discussion over whether or not spankings could lead to charges being pressed against parents or guardians. SC seems to follow similar guidelines.

https://dss.sc.gov/content/library/manuals/HS_Chapter7/files/758-01-03.htm

You can't tighten the kid up when they get home so they could care less about you contacting a parent. Kids are aware of the laws and bad/troubled kids will always push the limits.......

.....in my opinion unless a crime was being committed the school or school resource person should be held to the same rules that apply to parents. Treat the officer the way they treated Adrian Peterson.



  

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151. "Do we have any actual OkayTeachers? How would you have handled..."
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the situation? Because a lot of these armchair teachers are ridiculous, lol.

The teacher and the others students leave the classroom??

Where they do that at?!?! Lmao

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154. "questions answered all up in this post already"
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156. "Several have replied in here. None agree with you."
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>The teacher and the others students leave the classroom??

I believe TrendONE is an actual teacher. Longo, another teacher, agreed with his proposed solution.

>Where they do that at?!?! Lmao

Maybe at Trend's school?

fuck you.

  

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162. "RE: Several have replied in here. None agree with you."
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after gathering more info on the incident, there was a break down in the process on how to handle disciplining a student, especially for using a cellphone in the classroom without the teacher's permission.

my initial reaction of leaving the classroom with all the other student was in reaction to the incident of the school resource officer using physical force to remove a female student from a classroom. it was pretty traumatizing to watch. if there is a threat to students' safety inside the classroom i get them out of harms way. that cop wrestling that female student put other students in harm's way.

after hearing the account of another student in the room, the teacher did what he was supposed to do. he couldn't get a student to comply to directions, so he called an administrator. could the teacher have done more to get the student to comply? yes and no. i'm not familar with the teacher's repoire with the student. does the student have a history of defiance in school or any learning disabilities? i don't know.

it was the administrator's call to pass along the responsibility of the students' behavior to the police department. could they have sent a female officer? i don't know. i do know all the adults in the classroom could have done something to prevent the use of physical force.

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181. "and I have friends that are veteran city public high school teachers..."
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and they say at the beginning of the year there's an assembly and the protocol is explained and they sign off on it, follow the rules or you ass gets tossed.

You can't let one disrespectful non-compliant student disrupt the education of the rest of the students that are actually trying to learn.

The cop might've been heavy handed but she could have got her ass up and left the classroom as I'm sure she was asked to do multiple times before it got to that point.

Sure the image is disturbing but it is what is. It's easy to sit back and armchair quarterback when you're not in that environment on a daily basis.

Everything is not about race but a lot of it is undisciplined kids with no home training. We see videos posted online daily of these kids ganging up and fighting and attacking each other like animals, acting out on public transit and being disrespectful to the elderly. None of that is "the white man's" fault. That's lack of home training due to broken homes and absentee fathers. Black people need to stop playing the victim in every situation and take ownership of some of our own issues.

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182. "This is not one of those schools."
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It has above average academics, and while there is a decent percentage of the student body that qualifies as economically disadvantaged, it doesn't seem to be remotely the type of school where physical force waivers would be sent home and signed by parents.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/27/spring_valley_high_school_demographics.html (among other easily Googlable links)

This school doesn't strike me as too different from the one at which I taught. I wouldn't have taken my kids to the library as TrendOne suggests (that seems to be an overreaction to a sole phone out, imo), but it would've been very easy for any experienced teacher without an ego problem to read the issue, dole out the punishment fairly and with an even temperament, and avoid this entire situation.

It's one phone. It's not disrupting anything. It's a form of disrespect, for which she should be appropriately punished, according to the school's phone policy. At my school, she would've been suspended one day for having her phone out, period, and the disrespect would've likely bought her an extra three days. We didn't fuck around when it came to discipline. But we also didn't slam kids into the ground over a little backtalk.

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184. "from the link YOU posted..."
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>It has above average academics, and while there is a decent
>percentage of the student body that qualifies as economically
>disadvantaged, it doesn't seem to be remotely the type of
>school where physical force waivers would be sent home and
>signed by parents.
>
>http://www.slate.com/blogs/ the_slatest/2015/10/27/spring_valley_high_school_demographics.html
>(among other easily Googlable links)


"In 2014, 3.3 percent of Spring Valley students served out-of-school suspensions or were expelled for "violent and/or criminal offenses" as compared with the South Carolina high school median of 1.1 percent."

>
>This school doesn't strike me as too different from the one at
>which I taught. I wouldn't have taken my kids to the library
>as TrendOne suggests (that seems to be an overreaction to a
>sole phone out, imo), but it would've been very easy for any
>experienced teacher without an ego problem to read the issue,
>dole out the punishment fairly and with an even temperament,
>and avoid this entire situation.
>
>It's one phone. It's not disrupting anything. It's a form of
>disrespect, for which she should be appropriately punished,
>according to the school's phone policy. At my school, she
>would've been suspended one day for having her phone out,
>period, and the disrespect would've likely bought her an extra
>three days. We didn't fuck around when it came to discipline.
>But we also didn't slam kids into the ground over a little
>backtalk.

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189. "... did you think you were making a strong counterpoint?"
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Nothing in that quote goes against anything I said. 3.3% having served at least one suspension for violent conduct is nowhere near the percentage necessary to have a strict enough protocol for violent conduct that waivers be signed by parents.

And unless a report comes out saying these parents did sign such a waiver, your hypothetical is a moot point. It's not that kind of school, because it isn't that kind of school. No other evidence or argument is really necessary.

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224. "school staff have diverse reactions to the incident in SC"
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every school staff wouldn't respond to the situation the same way. my bad to all if my replies come off as "i work at a school so i'm right." everyone in here has the right to be outraged at the video.

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380. "Who are you, and what did you do with ThaTruth?"
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>Everything is not about race but a lot of it is undisciplined
>kids with no home training. We see videos posted online daily
>of these kids ganging up and fighting and attacking each other
>like animals, acting out on public transit and being
>disrespectful to the elderly. None of that is "the white
>man's" fault. That's lack of home training due to broken homes
>and absentee fathers. Black people need to stop playing the
>victim in every situation and take ownership of some of our
>own issues.

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183. "I was an actual teacher who faced this exact same scenario."
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And I detailed above very plainly how I would've dealt with the situation-- the same way I dealt with it then, and the same way any experienced teacher would've dealt with it imo,

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185. "Actually you said you never had a student refuse to leave the class"
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190. "Because I knew the student wouldn't have left, so I didn't ask."
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It's called "knowing your students." It's also called not having a fragile enough ego that you're going to huff and puff every time a student sasses back. It's what kids do. You let the punishment do the talking.

You don't need to prove yourself to be a bigger man/woman than the boy/girl who's trying to aggravate you. That's literally why you're there: you're there to teach kids how to behave in the real world. Lead by example.

You know why this story is making headlines? Because it doesn't happen. Not because the kids always immediately obey every order of a teacher or admin or officer, but because good teachers don't try to have their kids escorted from the room for having their phone out.

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197. "So where and what kind of school did you teach in and what subject..."
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did you teach?

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216. "lol my man is like "WHERE exactly should I move these goalposts?""
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***
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219. "LMAO!!"
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223. "Lol it's ridiculous "
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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225. "LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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226. "Womp Womp"
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234. "Its called a discussion, genius. Teaching glee club at Sunnyvale..."
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Performing Arts Academy is not the same as teaching regular classes in a public school.

I have several friends and family members who are teachers that have worked in both types of environments, its 2 completely different worlds.

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235. "yes, we all know you're seeking to discredit Longo"
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b/c he disagrees w/you.

it's quite plain. and that's why we're laughing at you.

fuck you.

  

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237. "He acts this way toward me on multiple boards for reasons unknown."
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And this is what he does every step of the way.

There's always some sort of gay jab in there too, because of my theatre background. His glee club at Sunnyvale comment doesn't go unnoticed.

It's weird and kind of creepy, tbh.

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238. "i'm not surprised."
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fuck you.

  

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243. "lol, wtf are you talking about dude? Outside of college basketball..."
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discussions I rarely interact with you.

Get over yourself.

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264. "Not surprised"
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>And this is what he does every step of the way.
>
>There's always some sort of gay jab in there too, because of
>my theatre background. His glee club at Sunnyvale comment
>doesn't go unnoticed.
>
>It's weird and kind of creepy, tbh.

Definitely has a sexuality issue and poor attitude towards sexual abuse.

Just IMO though.

  

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239. "Its called a discussion, genius. Context is everything, being a big time..."
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attorney and all I'm sure you understand how that works.

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242. "yes i understand ad hominem attacks pretty well."
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which is why i see your 'discussion' for what it is.

and i'm laughing at you.

b/c i know that you wouldn't engage in this 'discussion' of Longo's credentials if he agreed w/you in this post. LOL

it's pretty funny.

and that's why i'm laughing at you.

LOL.

fuck you.

  

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244. "RE: yes i understand ad hominem attacks pretty well."
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>which is why i see your 'discussion' for what it is.
>
>and i'm laughing at you.
>
>b/c i know that you wouldn't engage in this 'discussion' of
>Longo's credentials if he agreed w/you in this post. LOL

That's because I personally know teachers that have different views than him.

>it's pretty funny.
>
>and that's why i'm laughing at you.

That's fine, I laugh at you all the time.

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245. "What are their names? What do they teach? How long?"
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>That's because I personally know teachers that have different
>views than him.

If they don't teach at Dangerous Minds (c) high school then they don't really know how it beez in these classroom streets where crips and bloods are lurking and use cell phones as lethal weapons.

  

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263. "^^^^^"
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Just IMO though.

  

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247. "uh huh."
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>That's because I personally know teachers that have different
>views than him.

yes, there are too many horrible teachers out there. i'm not at all surprised that YOU know some personally. LOL

fuck you.

  

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248. "You don't have to take my word for it. Talk to some CPS peeps and ask..."
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them what they think.

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252. "i've already talked to 2 of them, homie."
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they're outraged at the cop. they say the admin overreacted.

one of them thinks the teacher should've called the admin b/c the girl was disrupting class. the other says the girl wasn't disruptive and the teacher could've and should've handled the situation w/o involving the admin.

and i have 2 folks in STL who work in STL public schools - one is a guidance counselor and another teaches music. the music teacher is also pissed at the teacher. the counselor is on the fence about who's more at fault - the cop or the admin for calling the cop.

fuck you.

  

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255. "RE: i've already talked to 2 of them, homie."
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>they're outraged at the cop. they say the admin overreacted.
>
>
>one of them thinks the teacher should've called the admin b/c
>the girl was disrupting class. the other says the girl wasn't
>disruptive and the teacher could've and should've handled the
>situation w/o involving the admin.

How do they know what happened before the SRO entered the classroom? Is there another video?

>
>and i have 2 folks in STL who work in STL public schools - one
>is a guidance counselor and another teaches music. the music
>teacher is also pissed at the teacher. the counselor is on
>the fence about who's more at fault - the cop or the admin for
>calling the cop.

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257. "why does it matter??"
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>How do they know what happened before the SRO entered the classroom? Is there another video?

  

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259. "One of the other students told us."
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http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/27/student-who-videotaped-incident-speaks-out/74664592/

fuck you.

  

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330. "RE: i've already talked to 2 of them, homie."
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>How do they know what happened before the SRO entered the
>classroom? Is there another video?


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272. "lolol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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271. "I've been a teacher and I've faced this scenario. "
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It's not that complicated. Like Longo said, you inform the student the consequences of their actions and you move on. You don't give any one student enough power in your classroom to get that much attention. Beyond that, I would've gotten the kids working on an assignment and tried to engage her while the other students were occupied. Odds are, there's probably a reason why she was so attached to her phone and there is probably a reason why she didn't want to leave. So, you know, you could treat the girl like a fully-formed human being.

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155. "Student who recorded the incident was also arrested and charged (link)."
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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/sc-student-arrested-for-recording-school-cops-violent-assault-on-classmate-sitting-in-her-desk/

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157. "God bless that young lady"
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158. "amen."
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fuck you.

  

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251. "The fuck??"
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160. "Our "resource officer" was so butter soft."
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He took hella L's trying to break up fights during the day. I can imagine how many more he'd take from parents if he ever popped off like this, though:

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163. "WTF!... is that a WSHH video?"
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dude

  

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164. "There's no reason to remove a non-violent child with force, period."
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No cause to lay a hand on her - at all.

Not sure when the rules changed, but I've never seen a school officer put hands on a student where there wasn't a physical fight involved.

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170. "ya again its like we skipped all the normal shit that a student "
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should have to be concerned about as far as punishment/reprecussions and just went straight to treating them like a damn criminal or an unruly drunk at a bar


shits disgusting



  

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174. "That's the perfect description "
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>an unruly drunk at a bar

  

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176. "thats the only place i can think of where that is acceptable"
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unless you are literally tresspassing


oh and prison

prison too


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179. "Yeah it's disgusting."
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>should have to be concerned about as far as
>punishment/reprecussions and just went straight to treating
>them like a damn criminal or an unruly drunk at a bar
>
>
>shits disgusting
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171. "I can't believe anyone sane would defend this vile"
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Useless piece of shit in uniform.
Wtf is wrong with you people.
There's absolutely no reason to treat a child in this manner
And I can't believe a grown mn just nonchalantly stood there watching. Wtf?

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175. "FUCK EVERY ONE IN HERE DEFENDING THIS "
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fuck y'all. seriously

y'all are terrible humans, terrible

when you let an indignant CHILD / TEEN get to you like that, you lost as an educator. please get the fuck outta the classroom.

a child on her phone is not that god damn serious, at all.


  

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178. "This was excessive and dangerous. No excuse"
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>Crazy thing about it, the male teacher does nothing smh.
>
>http://www.wistv.com/story/30353999/video-shows-confrontation-between-spring-valley-student-and-school-resource-officer

  

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188. "Its a gang of UncleToms & Housenegros in this thread!"
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At this rate, ya'll ninjaz got Dominicanos jealous.

Thas sayin' ALOT!








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200. "LMFAO!!"
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>At this rate, ya'll ninjaz got Dominicanos jealous.

  

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191. "*edit*"
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203. "my MIL was an educator and when we watched this she said..."
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she would have cleared the classroom and let the student stay in there and let administrators handle it.

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204. "wonderful, we were dying to know what your MIL would do in this sich"
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206. "bruh!"
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LMFAO!!

  

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209. "lol...right...ninja Kwesi woke up this morning on 10"
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208. "i hate you... lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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210. "lolz"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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211. "Your MIL is overreacting."
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The kid wouldn't give up a phone - that's no reason to call an admin and clear the room. It ain't that serious. Your MIL wouldve created more disruption than the girl. Instruction could've continued even if the girl didn't give up her phone. There was no reason to stop bc the girl was being disrespectful. She was not being disruptive.

fuck you.

  

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214. "maybe, but i think once you ask a student to leave and they refuse... "
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it opens up room for more kids to use phones or ignore your instructions since they know you won't discipline then.

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227. "asking the girl to leave class is doing too much."
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she wouldn't give up a phone. the teacher wrote her up for not giving up the phone. the write-up likely would've resulted in the girl being suspended from school. that's enough.

the girl didn't need to be removed from class.

fuck you.

  

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229. "RE: Your MIL is overreacting."
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>The kid wouldn't give up a phone - that's no reason to call
>an admin and clear the room. It ain't that serious. Your MIL
>wouldve created more disruption than the girl. Instruction
>could've continued even if the girl didn't give up her phone.
>There was no reason to stop bc the girl was being
>disrespectful. She was not being disruptive.


initial reaction to video: clear the classroom.

after finding out the reason why police was called was because a female student wasn't giving up her phone: punk ass cop.

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230. "that makes sense."
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b/c the way the cop treated that girl w/o more info one would assume she'd done something to disrupt class. she might've done something violent or threatened violence. she might've brandished a weapon or threatened to do so. she might've been out of her seat before the video started....SOMETHING.

but no. LOL

fuck you.

  

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266. "My wife is on the phone with her mother (a teacher) as I type this"
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My wife's mother was a provost for a college, retired from there and has been teaching for the last 10 years. She's 75 and shows no sign of slowing down.

I can hear her ranting loud as fuck on the phone about similar incidents at the schools she's taught at as well as some shit that happened during her time on a college campus. I used to hear about "these bad ass kids" all the time, especially when she taught over on the Gila reservation.

In her opinion as a current educator, the girl was dead wrong. Whether it was "just a cellphone" or whatever the rules were violated. When a kid is insubordinate on this level they need to be removed from the classroom. She makes no excuses for the cop's actions and agrees it was out of line, but the shit didn't even have to get that far. All she had to do was put it away or give it up instead of being a little cunt. The events that led up to her being snatched up and slammed on the ground were completely on her.

All this shit could have been avoided. Put the phone up or give it to the teacher. Problem solved.

  

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270. "Teenagers are expected to be teenagers. Adults need to be adults."
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Period.

I gives two fucks what she "could" have done to prevent it from going that far.

The adults are the professionals. They're held to a higher standard.

Teenagers will make bad decisions warranting discipline; it's to be expected.

What isn't to be expected is this officer's actions. And that is why it's the only focus.

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282. "Nah, 'cause up and down in this thread y'all admonishing the teacher"
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for calling the cop.

... except the teacher DIDN'T call in the cop. The teacher called in the administrator to deal with an insubordinate student. The administrator couldn't get her to comply so she called in the cop.

I was in a similar scenario in the 11th grade. I got a cop called on me to have me removed from a classroom after an argument with the teacher, but it took a counselor and dept head to intervene first before calling the cop.


Either way, the girl still needs to be held responsible for her part in this. In the real world you don't get to act an asshole and get butthurt when someone mollywops you for it.


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292. "Actually you do because the officer has been fired.."
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and I guarantee the charges against the student will be dropped.
>
>
>Either way, the girl still needs to be held responsible for
>her part in this. In the real world you don't get to act an
>asshole and get butthurt when someone mollywops you for it.
>
>
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428. "guess you haven't been to SC...the charges won't be dropped..."
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no way no how...

she won't serve jail time...but she's gonna do some community service...because the crime is up to 90 days in jail...

  

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452. "doubt it."
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311. "basically..."
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>My wife's mother was a provost for a college, retired from
>there and has been teaching for the last 10 years. She's 75
>and shows no sign of slowing down.
>
>I can hear her ranting loud as fuck on the phone about similar
>incidents at the schools she's taught at as well as some shit
>that happened during her time on a college campus. I used to
>hear about "these bad ass kids" all the time, especially when
>she taught over on the Gila reservation.
>
>In her opinion as a current educator, the girl was dead wrong.
>Whether it was "just a cellphone" or whatever the rules were
>violated. When a kid is insubordinate on this level they need
>to be removed from the classroom. She makes no excuses for the
>cop's actions and agrees it was out of line, but the shit
>didn't even have to get that far. All she had to do was put it
>away or give it up instead of being a little cunt. The events
>that led up to her being snatched up and slammed on the ground
>were completely on her.
>
>All this shit could have been avoided. Put the phone up or
>give it to the teacher. Problem solved.

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416. "when did you become such an Uncle Tom?"
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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445. "The character Uncle Tom gave his life for his fellow enslaved African"
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453. "Is that your rationalization for sounding like a Tom in this post?"
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___________________

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455. "Is that what one who would lay their life down for another sounds like?"
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my how we despise truth these days.

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457. "Hey! Where'd you go? I thought we were name calling here!? "
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Don't stop now, I'm just getting warmed up!

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458. "You are laying down your life for another in this post?"
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>my how we despise truth these days.

you think E.T. and bigfoot are the truth.

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460. "Am I saying that I am? I don't recall saying that."
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I am stating that when calling people Uncle Tom around folks who know that term to be incorrect it may be a good idea to not use it as it makes the user look ignorant.

Now you were saying something about the totally unrelated topics of the missing link and life from beyond our planet? Not sure what that has to do with what we're discussing so feel free to elaborate.

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472. "how about calling you a sell-out, a coon,"
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Or a snitch.

Is that better?

  

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476. "Meh -- at least it's more intelligent than Uncle Tom"
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Is name calling what we want to start doing? This is why you come on here? To get emotionally worked up and go out of your way to find differences with strangers for no real reason? It would make you no better than the racists trolls on all the news sites reporting this, but fine, one at a time or all at once -- it makes no difference.

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480. "dont recall saying anything about laying down ur life til u mentioned it"
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>I am stating that when calling people Uncle Tom around folks
>who know that term to be incorrect

The term is not "incorrect", it exists on its own terms without necessitating a precise correlation to the narrative of the book.

it may be a good idea to
>not use it as it makes the user look ignorant.

it may be a good idea to not say you believe in alien encounters and bigfoot as it makes the user look like a crazy person.


>Now you were saying something about the totally unrelated
>topics of the missing link and life from beyond our planet?
>Not sure what that has to do with what we're discussing so
>feel free to elaborate.

you made a comment on attitudes towards truth; your belief in the above topics speaks to your grasp of the truth.

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490. "Did you call 1-800-TRY-HARD before typing this?"
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Because that's what you're doing in order to make some kind of strange point. Is your internet ego that frail?

>>I am stating that when calling people Uncle Tom around
>folks
>>who know that term to be incorrect
>
>The term is not "incorrect", it exists on its own terms
>without necessitating a precise correlation to the narrative
>of the book.

It's about as correct as the word "irregardless" and it has obviously always been used incorrectly which is a shame and indicative of a certain type of not knowing.

>it may be a good idea to not say you believe in alien
>encounters and bigfoot as it makes the user look like a crazy
>person.

But what do the missing link and life beyond our planet have to do with a girl being dragged out of class? Do you have an answer for that? This is why I think you may have called that number before typing. Are you saying that it's ok to use improper terms because I think it's likely those things exist? Okay that makes a lot of non sense.

>>Now you were saying something about the totally unrelated
>>topics of the missing link and life from beyond our planet?
>>Not sure what that has to do with what we're discussing so
>>feel free to elaborate.
>
>you made a comment on attitudes towards truth; your belief in
>the above topics speaks to your grasp of the truth.

You must have that number on speed dial because the truth is those topics are unrelated to the discussion (and I use the term loosely) at hand and you're trying too hard to make them relative.

It is possible that things exist that human beings do not yet know about. That's the truth.

It's also true that the character of Uncle Tom is not one indicative of betrayal or support of white supremacy and people wrongly refer to it in an attempt to paint others as being such.

Those things are true and because I'm arguing from that angle you are wasting your time in trying to somehow prove me wrong, but please do continue trying .

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477. "RE: when did you become such an Uncle Tom?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Q3VIgnvaE

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2010/05/uncle_tom_from_compliment_to_insult.html

  

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273. "It didn't even require that. The teacher's reaction made it a bigger dea..."
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The teacher needs to be reprimanded as well, b/c a kid with a cell phone should've been able to be handled w/o a resource officer. The officer should've only been called in if the student was getting violent or loud. If she just refused to get off her phone, move on and address it either after class or while the other students are occupied. It's basic ass classroom management.

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274. "Exactly. The teacher is complicit in the criminalization of children."
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It wasn't a police matter. That's part of the root of the problem.

Early in the rearing of black children, specifically, the police are often used as a disciplinary threat.. even by parents.

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275. "Yeah, that indicates to me poor classroom management skills. "
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Like, I had kids with cell phones pop up a lot at the beginning of the year. When it did pop up later in the year, I'd find that in most cases the kid had a legit reason for watching their cell phone, i.e. family member sick or some other real ass situation. All I had to do was get the focus off the student and they'd usually open up when they weren't in the spotlight. To me, that indicates that the teacher has done a poor job of establishing a rapport with their class.

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278. "Sadly, the Sheriff actually has the most sense of all the involved adult..."
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If you watch his press conference he mentioned that none of the school staff involved saw any problem with what the SRO did, but the Sheriff did.

He basically said "They didn't find any issue with it, but I did, and that's why he's fired".

He also mentioned reviewing whether or not an officer should have been called to begin with. So he seems to already agree that it was administrative issue.

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276. "That's going a little far imo."
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The teacher can't be held responsible for what the cop does. Calling the police on someone in any situation doesn't make you complicit with what the police do while responding.

I might call the police on my neighbor for what can be seen as unjust cause (a noise complaint that's not justified or something).....if that cop goes into my neighbor's place guns blazing....I'm complicit? Nah.

The teacher might have shown poor judgement. Maybe they suck as a teacher. But they're not complicit with the assault or criminalization of the child.

  

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277. "They are if they failed to report the officer endangering the child..."
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The teacher exercised poor classroom management skills in calling the officer in the first place. When the officer abused the child, they didn't speak up. As a matter of fact, the only reason we know about this whole affair is because other students recorded it. The teacher was absolutely complicit in this child's abuse and they should be appropriately reprimanded.

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280. "Oh that makes more sense."
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I thought he was being called complicit in requesting the cop to come to the classroom.

Yah. I agree with that. He's responsible for the student's safety. Not sure what that means exactly here. Can't say that he's responsible for physically intervening with the cop....but certainly after the fact he would be responsible for reporting the incident.

  

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279. "I didn't say complicit in the assault. I said complicit in the.."
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criminalization.

Meaning, as an authority figure yourself, if you call the police to remove a child from a classroom, whether excessive force is used or not, you are "signing off" on it becoming a police matter. Meaning, the child will be treated as a perpetrator or potential criminal in the eyes of the police, as their behavior has escalated beyond your control.

It's the same if a parent calls the police on their own child.

Although, even with that said, the sheriff said that the staff was fine with what happened, so they actually were complicit in the assault. They didn't see anything wrong with it and would have never reported it.

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284. "Nah."
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You're not signing off on anything (or everything) by calling the police. We're not responsible for the actions of others.

And people call the police over matters that are not criminal all the time. Like noise complaints. The cop criminalized the child....not the teacher.

I'm not being wishy-washy about this. That cop assaulted that girl. He should be charged with assault. If the teacher was, in fact, complicit...than what would he be charged with? Are you willing to call the teacher an accomplice?

  

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287. "y'all are arguing over the wrong thing."
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the teacher didn't call the cop. The administrator did. the teacher escalated the incident, likely following protocol, and removed himself from the equation.

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291. "Either way the teacher is a pussy for not speaking up.."
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and stating it was abusive. So he isn't off the hook.

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296. "The teacher should've never had to escalate the issue."
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A student with a cell phone is a pretty easy issue to handle. By escalating it, they made it a much bigger issue than it ever needed to be. If it was indeed protocol to bring in an administrator for something so minor, then we're looking at structural mishandling of classroom management.

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297. "^^"
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fuck you.

  

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290. "This wasn't a noise complaint. "
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This was a request to have a person, a child, removed from a room.

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488. "or they could have waited til class ended"
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tell her to report to the principal office, let her walk out and have the resource officer escort her to the principal's office where it could have been hashed out there.

She probably would have broken down there about her problems and they could have let her talk to a counselor to get her help.

  

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215. "smh. No excuse for what took place. "
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217. "What the hell is SRO? they have guns?"
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When i was in school we had safety agents but no one had cuffs/guns. I think the only time they touched students was to break up fights.

In any event, i don't have an issue with the teacher calling admin or admin calling the SRO.

If I call the cops on someone bc of a small infraction and the cop winds up shooting the person, that ain't on my conscience.

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221. "Shocked this post did numbers. There should have been on post saying"
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this is awful and 200 replies "Agreed".

How is there a back and forth on this?


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232. "gotta hear both sides (c) Don Lemon & assorted other assholes."
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fuck you.

  

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262. "Yah really."
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I usually attempt to at least TRY to have a devil's advocate in my mind explore the other side. Not here. There's nothing to debate. Fire his ass and charge him with assault.

  

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281. "Post #4 is what the majority of discussion here is about"
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>How is there a back and forth on this?

It's a valid question that takes NOTHING away from the despicable actions of the school guard.

Why is *that* such a hard thing for folks in here to get?

We even have several teachers and former teachers giving us their perspective and discussing possible methods to AVOID situations like this. Last time I looked, the overwhelming MAJORITY of people in this thread think the guard was way wrong, but yet people *still* come in here calling folks "uncle toms" and other ad hominems.

This isn't directed specifically at you, btw, but I had to pick one person to reply under, and you seem like one of the more rational posters.

  

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323. "sadly this is where we are with race relations today"
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conversation, discussion, and debate should be free flowing.
able to cover many different view points and perspectives
WITHOUT the constant jumping to conclusions, assuming and pitchforks being pulled out.

instead you cant ask an unbiased question without people creating straw men or injecting feelings into the question looking for bias. people like SoWhat are the queens of that shit.



  

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231. "He's Fired"
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/sheriff-south-carolina-deputy-ben-discipline?bftwnews&utm_term=.hfwn68nJG#.bqXbL2blB

  

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241. "something all sides should be able to agree on."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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233. "Fired (link)"
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/sc-officer-fired-classroom-confrontation-video/story?id=34792908

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236. "WAIT, WAIT, WAIT...being disruptive in a classroom = a crime...WTF?"
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later for the cop, we been known that was a problem to begin with

but they're chargin ol' girl

and another girl in the classroom

with criminal charges

WTF!?

when do we talk about this

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240. "hello."
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fuck you.

  

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246. "Its unfortunately called = film a cop doing bad, expect 'legal' reprecus..."
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I just watched the press conference and a reporter brought it up and the police chief said he aint have no info and that it's a 'separate case'.

if I was him id go speak to the DA quickfast and have that shit die out lest that eventual payout money the count will have to pay the videotaper is growing by the hour.

  

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254. "but they need the FBI to investigate criminal charges against the office..."
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obviously, they don't want it to look like we're investigating ourselves

so I understand calling on a separate body

but I don't understand NOT charging him

AND charging these girls

the defense for the officer is they need more evidence, a complete investiagion = just to charge him

but they're charging these girls off top

=/=

I saw a criminal assualt on that video

and what they're doing to these girls is victim blaming.

+ the prison pipeline needs to be talked about

in summary

teenager disruptive in class = crime

tossing an unarmed female teenager across the same classroom =/= a crime.

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265. "my biggest issue with the whole thing....why he aint charged"
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if my ass goes out l's out, slams, and drags a lil girl I'm getting that assault charge asap...

what they waiting for here


I aint gotta hear both sides

I seen the only side I needed to


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283. "because he's a cop. "
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before a cop is ever charged with a crime they have to *finger quotes* "investigate" the incident; it's a process they have to go through.

Otherwise every cop that has ever shot someone would be immediately charged with attempted murder or murder, every cop that tackled someone to the ground would be immediately charged with battery even when use of force is warranted.

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293. "it was a rhetorical ? just like the Eric Garner shit"
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we all lookin...

we all see it...

nothing to 'investigate' besides the clip we saw


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253. "those kids were chillin hard tho... 2 of them didn't even flinch"
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like they were used to dude flipping kids desk

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260. "she showed no aggression, force shouldn't have been used"
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295. "the girl is an orphan (link/swipe)"
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-s-teen-assaulted-deputy-orphan-article-1.2414901

Life is even harder now for the South Carolina teen assaulted by ex-Deputy Ben Fields — she recently lost her mother

Well, son, I'll tell you:
Life for me ain't been no crystal stair.
It's had tacks in it,
And splinters,
And boards torn up,
And places with no carpet on the floor —
Bare.
— Langston Hughes excerpt from "Mother to Son"

Life, for many of us, is hard.

Life for a 16-year-old black girl in the New South who lost her mother and is living in a foster home is no crystal stair.

SHERIFF'S DEPUTY WHO BODY-SLAMMED BLACK STUDENT FIRED

In an interview with the Daily News, Todd Rutherford, the respected Columbia, S.C., attorney representing the assault victim of the recently terminated Deputy Ben Fields, revealed that his client, in addition to suffering injuries on her face, neck, and arm, is a recent orphan living in foster care.

While her identity, no doubt, will eventually be leaked to the media, it's the goal of her foster mother to protect and care for her as well as she can considering the circumstances. She communicated to us that the young victim is devastated and emotionally traumatized by all that has happened to her.

School, as you can imagine, could be particularly tough for a young girl who has experienced so much pain and loss in her young life. To think that she has now suffered police brutality and is facing trumped up criminal charges for age-appropriate classroom behavior is just despicable.

SHAUN KING: BEN FIELDS SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR ASSAULT

Some trauma cannot be undone. The early loss of a parent and the experience of police brutality are both examples of such trauma.

Our kids, who already face enormous pressure in life, should never be subjected to state-sponsored violence while in school. For this young girl, Spring Valley High School should've been a refuge.

Instead, it was something far worse.

fuck you.

  

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298. "I wanna see more heads roll."
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Considering school officials HAD to have known her circumstances its thoroughly disgusting that the teacher, and then the admin dropped the ball on this.

While the knuckleheaded cop was doing what knuckleheaded cops do9and got fired like all knucklheaded cops should), its getting more and more obvious she should have never been in the position in the first place. Kids act up all the time, you would figure people working in a SCHOOL would know how to handle it without calling the authorities, particularly in such heartbreaking circumstances at this.

Only bad thing here is that she doesn't have close family to actually go whup ass some ass on her behal

  

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307. "Yup!"
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The admin who called the cop needs to be disciplined.

fuck you.

  

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309. "yeah, if they knew what was going on with ol' girl, they definitely f'd ..."
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some of the research being released about drug addicition

now that we're finally moving toward decriminalization

makes a correlation between life events (not sure that's the exact term that was used, I think it was Gabor Mate I heard speaking)

i.e., death, divorce, trauma, etc...

and drug addiction

and they establish a higher drug use outcome based on the number of life events a child has experienced

the 100% mark was 3 life events

ol' girl just had 2

and if anybody had any idea what was going on with her

they should've done better by her, and got her some help

BEFORE this happened

her outburst was entirely predictable, and hope she can over come the odds and not let this determine her life path.

if they put her in jail = 3, 100%

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417. "AS A TEACHER YOU GOT TO KNOW YOUR KIDS"
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303. "i hope this officer has a house/assets."
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304. "I'm trying to imagine the responses to this news."
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"Maybe if she'd been more respectful, her parents would be alive!"

"Who was she texting in class if her parents aren't alive? Even MORE reason why she shouldn't have been on her phone!"

etc

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320. "Follow the rules is the still the motive. "
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All she had to do was comply.

Look, we don't all start on the same footing in the world, but the sooner you get this, the better.

Respect authority. When the teacher tells you to do something, do it.

The cop was out of line, but the student didn't help the situation.

  

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325. "yall killin me with the &quot;but&quot;..."
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"yeah she got choked slammed in her chair, BUT...she brought it on herself"

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328. "Stop excusing her role in this. Comply. No cops."
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The cop overstepped his boundaries

OK?

We've said it.

Now on to the more pertinent facts. If you want to avoid dealing with the cops, do what your teachers and administrators tell you to do.

  

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329. "so her not giving up her phone is the "more pertinent fact"?..."
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more pertinent than a cop power-slamming and child and dragging her across the floor? Yall are wild.

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338. "Had she complied, no cops would have been called"
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******We all know the cop was out of line.*******

OK

So stop repeating this dumb shit.

The fact is that she didn't do as she was told and the cop was called to remove her from class.

Stop supporting insubordination

The fact that the cop was called is because she failed to yield to authority.

  

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341. "sure except we all know of cases where cops are called"
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even though no wrong has been committed.

so what you're saying is pretty irrelevant here.

the admin called the cop b/c the admin overreacted. instead the admin should've issued a suspension and called the girl's (foster) parent(s).

fuck you.

  

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352. "You don't get to post-hoc examine shit. The cop was wrong too."
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She should have complied

She gambled.

She lost.


and the cop also lost.

  

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354. " "I already can't turn on the radio. I think I'm gonna drop one more alb..."
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"I already can't turn on the radio. I think I'm gonna drop one more album, one more powerful body of work, then take a little break — go to Tokyo or Ethiopia or some shit." Hearing him boast about talking shop with Bono, or name-dropping "Naomi Campbell, who's a good friend of mine now," you may be tempted to see a diva in the making; or you may see a 25-year-old guy who's stoked and incredulous to be in the position he's in.

After rehearsal, Tesfaye is in the greenroom with his two managers, 31-year-old Amir "Cash" Esmailian and 35-year-old Tony Sal. Cash is a first-generation Iranian-Canadian sweetheart who occasionally yells things into the phone like, "You may as well bend me over a table, bro!"; Sal is a courtly charmer who grew up in Beirut during the Lebanese civil war and now dates a former Miss USA. Right now, they're trying to figure out how to get from Norway, where Tesfaye will be for promo in a few days, to Texas, where he has a show. According to their tour manager, the only commercial flight from Oslo to Austin is at 8 a.m.
"What about noncommercial?" asks Cash. The tour manager says he'll check, but they're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Cash looks around and grins: "The label's paying for it, right?"
I feel so much better today. I feel amazing right now."

The next afternoon, Tesfaye is in a seventh-floor suite at his Soho hotel, having spent most of the previous 18 hours in bed. (There was also a B12 shot involved.) When a bellman brings in a silver tray with a selection of waters, Tesfaye pours himself a glass. "I just started being fancy, to be honest," he says. "Like, I just started learning how to pronounce what I'm wearing." He imitates a snooty shopgirl: "'It's not Bal-mane, it's Bal-mahn.' 'Oh, sorry!'"

When he first started recording as the Weeknd, Tesfaye was an unlikely star. "I was everything an R&B singer wasn't," he says. "I wasn't in shape. I wasn't a pretty boy. I was awkward as fuck. I didn't like the way I looked in pictures — when I saw myself on a digital camera, I was like, 'Eesh.'" Instead of his face, his album art and videos featured black-and-white photos of artful nudes — a topless girl in a bathtub, a woman's ass in a party dress. The aesthetic was American Apparel-style hipster catnip, right down to the Helvetica font.

Early Weeknd songs were atmospheric and chilly, their thick narcotic haze sliced b

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306. " that just crushed me, i swear"
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308. "Exactly why teenagers should be treated like... I don't know..."
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TEENAGERS??

But no, let's keep talking about her being wrong in the situation.

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310. "Ppl want the girl to be made accountable. As if being battered, arrested..."
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jailed and criminally charged ain't enough.

What they really want is for this orphaned girl to be used as a representative for ALL of these 'kids today'. They want her to suffer as if that will teach all of 'these kids today' some lesson. They want to take out their resentments and frustrations with kids on this orphan.

It's appalling.

>But no, let's keep talking about her being wrong in the
>situation.

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315. "I'm really disgusted by it all. Like, seriously. "
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This is a child.

For a child to be treated that way, and for adults to even fix their face to start a sentence with "Well she should have..." is infuriating.

It shows how low we really are.

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317. "Our conditioning is conditioned."
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316. "^ that's the 'more info' for Don Lemon's Tom-ass."
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fuck you.

  

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319. "I want the Teacher and Admin FIRED too"
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The admin at a minimum because that person knew...

  

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321. "All u weirdos, closet Ben Carson acolytes and "New" Blacks...."
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I'm giving u the FUCK U side eye for even trying to say this young lady had it coming....

Some of u niggas....It's always the same folks, too...lol...

I swear....Y'all need the Drop Squad in 'yo life....

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322. "Comply with the teacher, and the cop doesn't get called."
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And even though the cop was out of line, so was the student

You don't get to ignore the half of the story you want.

  

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332. "^^Type to ask a rape victim: what they were wearing & why were they"
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drinking.

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333. "don't go out alone, rapist won't bother you!!!"
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.

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336. "don't be a woman and you won't get raped!"
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fuck you.

  

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335. "Way to scrape the barrel. Comply = No cop interaction"
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This went from:

1. teacher

2. assistant principal

3. SRO

All issuing verbal commands

And we ALL agree the cop was out of line

So whats the problem here?

You want a student who was already out of pocket to be ignored by a cop who was out of pocket?

They were both in the wrong.

Period.

  

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339. "and for her bad behavior the recently orphaned foster girl has been batt..."
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injured, arrested, jailed and criminally charged. her lawyer says she's devastated and emotionally traumatized.

what else would you like to see happen to her?

should she be flogged in the town square? should she spend some time in the stock? should she be drawn and quartered? crucified? burned at the stake? what will it take for her and others orphan foster kids to learn their lesson about the importance of following rules?

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351. "Bruh!!! Talk that shit!!"
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356. "You want compassion? Follow the rules. "
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Miss me with all of this retroactive hand holding.

The rules are for everybody.

I feel for her in her personal life, but she refused to comply with demands and she sees why those rules were put in place.

1. Do as you're told
2. I'm glad the cop was fired.

  

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358. "arlier, smaller studies, researchers also found that Americans with the ..."
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arlier, smaller studies, researchers also found that Americans with the lowest levels of education were most likely to say they were gay.
A similar pattern was found in wealth, with more than 5 per cent of those with annual incomes of under £15,000 identified as gay compared with 2.8 per cent earning more than £37,000 a year.
And while 21 per cent of American adults earn more than £56,000 a year, only 16 per cent of gay people claimed to earn that much.
The survey – based on interviews with more than 121,000 people – contradicts the perception that lesbians and gays are mostly white, urban and affluent, said lead author Gary Gates.
‘Contemporary media often think of LGBT people as disproportionately white, male, urban and pretty wealthy,’ said Mr Gates of the University of California, Los Angeles. ‘But this data reveals that relative to the general population, the LGBT population has a larger proportion of non-white people and clearly is not overly wealthy.’
The survey revealed a slight gender difference – 3.6 per cent of women identified themselves as lesbian or gay, compared with 3.3 per cent of men.This discrepancy was particularly marked among younger adults, aged 18 to 29, where 8.3 per cent of women said they were LGBT compared with only 4.6 per cent of men.

Findings: The Gallup survey, released this week, was based on interviews with more then 121,000 people, and showed that 3.4 per cent of adults fell into the LGBT category in America
Gallup survey
The results show that fewer white people sai

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334. "RE: Comply with the teacher, and the cop doesn't get called."
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>And even though the cop was out of line, so was the student
>
>You don't get to ignore the half of the story you want.


I get it...Black kids are seen as threatening...as adults....I mean, kids act up in class....That's what they do...White, black, purple, green....Don't matter the race...

But kids of a certain shade are the ones that always get treated like we are grown ass adults...

I'm going to let u party on that "other side of the story" bullshit....

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337. "Doesn't matter. The time for all of this talking is before the cop is ca..."
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Stop supporting insubordination.

When the teacher AND assistant principal tell you to leave, then there is a final resort used.

And we all acknowledge the cop overstepped their boundaries


Had the cop not been out of pocket, we wouldn't be discussing anything.

  

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340. "yes. b/c the adults' conduct is what's worthy of discussion in this sto..."
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>Had the cop not been out of pocket, we wouldn't be discussing
>anything.

right. b/c the girl's bad behavior was fairly typical and not worthy of extended discussion. the meat of this story is the cop's misconduct. that's why most of us aren't talking about the girl's wrong - the cop's wrong is so greatly outsized in relation to hers that there's no point in talking about it.

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342. "So don't bring up the cop w/o understanding WHY he was called"
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1. The girl was in the wrong

2. The cop was out of pocket

Both are true.

  

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344. "i know why the cop was called."
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the cop was called b/c the admin overreacted to the girl's disrespect.

the admin was called b/c the teacher overreacted when he couldn't handle the girl's disrespect.

but for the overreaction the cop never would've been involved.

i say 'but for' b/c the overreactions from the teacher and admin were intervening causes that supersede the girl's bad behavior.

i place most of the blame for all of this on the teacher and the admin and the cop. b/c yes the girl was wrong but her wrong should've been handled more appropriately by all 3 of the adult professionals - beginning w/the teacher and continuing w/the admin and the cop. each of them escalated the situation unnecessarily.

fuck you.

  

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347. "Do as you're told. Period. Students are not the authority"
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1. Teacher
2. ADMIN
3. SRO

Do as you're told and things don't escalate.


And none of this excuses the cop's behavior.

  

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349. "i place most of the blame for all of this on the teacher and the admin a..."
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i place most of the blame for all of this on the teacher and the admin and the cop. b/c yes the girl was wrong but her wrong should've been handled more appropriately by all 3 of the adult professionals - beginning w/the teacher and continuing w/the admin and the cop. each of them escalated the situation unnecessarily.

fuck you.

  

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350. "1. do as you're told 2. I'm glad the cop was fired"
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Stop defending insubordination and disrespect for authority.

  

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353. "nd demanded that they also be detained in solidarity. Police fired stun..."
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nd demanded that they also be detained in solidarity.

Police fired stun grenades to disperse protesters at Rhodes University in Grahamstown in the southeast.

UCT and Rhodes university remain closed, while students at Fort Hare university in Eastern Cape also joined the protests. Stellenbosch University authorities obtained a court interdict to bar protests, as students gathered in groups on the campus east of Cape Town.

Live television footage showed police putting out fires and removing rubble at an entrance to the UCT.

"The situation yesterday and today is very, very problematic for us. Some examinations could not take place and work was disrupted everywhere on campus," Francis Petersen, UCT's acting Vice-Chancellor, said in a statement.

Noloyiso Rwexana, a police officer in the Western Cape province where UCT is located said "more arrests are imminent" if students failed to observe the court interdict.

South Africa's student body as a whole is mostly black, and it is hampered by tight funding and the lingering effects of discrimination dating from white-minority rule. The proportion of blacks in higher education is still relatively low.

Higher education minister Blade Nzimande said on Monday that each university provided for its own finances and that the government could not afford to provide free education for poor students.

University administrators say without much bigger subsidies from the government

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361. ""Doing as your told" doesn't protect Black children from violence "
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either but I understand the belief in respectability mantras make some us feel safe from anti-Black violence. It's still victim blaming horseshit that won't protect us.

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364. "If she'd left the classroom, what would we discuss?"
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So yeah. She should have left the classroom. Stop trolling with this bullshit logic.

  

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365. "if she'd stayed home that day this post wouldn't exist."
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if the cop had become a fireman instead.

if the teacher had a job on Wall Street instead.

if the admin had followed her dream to be a sculptor instead.

if the students who recorded the battery on their phones had parents who'd used birth control instead.

if the websites that host the video had been porn sites instead.

if the journalists who wrote the articles reporting this story had their fingers broken b/c they owed the Mob money instead.

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360. "http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-14-2015/7q7hLA.gif"
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327. "it's the same bullshit we heard in the wake of the Mike Brown murder."
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"He shouldn't have been jaywalking"

"He should've gotten on the sidewalk when he was told"

"He shouldn't have maybe stolen those cigarillos"

...i suspect most of it is not rooted in animus but is instead rooted in a desire to protect Black kids from cops who are known to act outrageously brutal toward Black kids. kinda like that out-dated, wrong-headed line of thought that has some parents beat their kids so the cops don't beat them.

i don't know that i'm being clear. lol

anyway, i think that's true for some of these ppl. others just str8 up hate kids or Black kids, i think. LOL

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355. "it's an epidemic. "
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450. "actually its the "New" Blacks who don't believe a child should stay in a..."
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child's place.

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326. "could've shot her in the face, and ppl would be like "he's wrong but she..."
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..shoulda put her phone away and she'd still be alive"

  

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331. "see: Mike Brown and Eric Garner."
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and Tamir Rice. and Freddie Gray. and Sandra Bland.

and Emmett Till. and Medgar Evars.

and countless other Blacks who've been brutalized by police or others after having committed relatively minor offenses.

it's always the same script.

i'd rather ask why the police and other authorities tend to overreact too often to trivial misconduct than wring my hands w/worry about why ppl commit trivial misconduct. ppl are always going to act badly. we need our authorities to handle the misconduct appropriately.

like this girl - she acted out in a typical teen fashion. the teacher and other professionals who are responsible for her need to be better prepared to deal w/that kind if misbehavior w/o escalating the situation as they did here. none of it was necessary.

fuck you.

  

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366. "the teen was disruptive and caused the intital conflict. the officer esc..."
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The incident and violated the teen.


If a parent was recorded doing the same action as the officer, the parent would be arrested and charged with child abuse. So i feel this officer should be charged.

Kids tho.. smh...i really dont know how they should be handled. Im glad the incident with my close relative has been resolved. Both her kids were taken away and she and her husband were arrested and charged with abuse and neglect for whipping their children for stealing from them, others, and one broke into a store and stole things. Eventually she made one sleep out in an attachment to the house because he would wait for people to go to sleep then go in their rooms and rob them. She was at her wits end.


I cant imagine locking my doors to keep my child from stealing from me.

But in the end no one cared what the child did. They blamed her completely. I dont think thats fair. But who am i? I believe everyone should take responsibility for their actions. This young girl was being defiant and showing her ass. The boys in my family were lying and stealing from everyone....did they deserve some sort of repercussion for their bad actions? Some folks say yes, some say no. But we all agree the extreme punishment was a step too far.

But imo all that are involved are victims.
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370. "why do i have to obey cops?"
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why are Black ppl, of all ppl,
not seeing why we should not ALWAYS obey the orders of cops, necessarily.

if cops order protesters to disperse,
is dispersing ALWAYS the right decision?

and if a cop orders a crowd of protesters to disperse, and the
protesters don't disperse,
shouldn't the police then make every effort to bring the people accused of commiting crimes into custody, preferably alive and unharmed,
so they can have a TRIAL, with a jury of their peers,
so justice can be handled by the COURTS.

not some renegade cop that thinks he's judge dredd.



i am side eyeing ppl
that say we should obey cops
to be fine.

where is this place?

  

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371. "we should obey authority figures who are in their position of authority"
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I obey my manager at work even if i dont agree with him

I obey street signs when i drive

I obey my pastor at church when she asks us to stand for the reading of the word.

I obey my music agent in the studio when he asks me to record

I obey when im asked to present my fishing license while fishing

I obeyed my teacher in class when they asked me to take a test.

I have opinions and i voice them, but i also comply.

I think that is an honorable thing.


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419. "RE: we should obey authority figures who are in their position of author..."
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Even this guy:
http://news.yahoo.com/oklahoma-police-officer-charged-raping-women-while-duty-184913187.html

and this guy:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bishop-eddie-long-scandal-he-wanted-sex-in-church-says-accuser-jamal-parris/

this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._W._Botha

y'all are fuckin ridiculous, and you've been trained to hate your own kids

  

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372. "in general? you have to decide if it's worth it not to"
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even taking out the possibility of getting shot, or roughed up, it's generally gonna be a hassle, if you're like fuck you, i'm not getting out of my car.

if you're willing to deal with that, go for it.

  

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374. "Students don't have those rights in public schools. No insubordination"
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Get mad if you want to.

The time for you to selectively follow rules isn't when you're in that teacher's classroom. They have legal authority to tell you what to do and you have to obey.

So yes, if a teacher tells you to leave.

You do it.

If an admin tells you to do something.

you do it

if a cop then tells you to do something

you do it.

  

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382. " "certain" students don't have those rights in public schools. No insubo..."
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and you're cool with that.

whatever.

  

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375. "Sounds familiar..."
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https://www.facebook.com/11Alive/videos/10153116050960496/

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424. "oh so nobody's touching this huh? lol"
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429. "you ignores reply 370. why should i obey cops?"
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can you think of a scenerio when
ppl SHOULD disobey cops?

why has obeying cops become
standard operating procedure?

why is it to my advantage to always obey law enforcement?

  

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432. "RE: oh so nobody's touching this huh? lol"
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Nah...people not touching it because it's bullshit....

I mean, now it's being reported that the officer that slammed that teenage girl has a history of slamming students...So much so that they call that fool Officer Slam....lol...True story...

Like sometimes, it's just better to walk away when evidence starts mounting....I know this is your thing...No one is saying that the girl is a fucking angel...All we are saying is that kids being lil' assholes is par for the course...There are ways to handle such behavior without dragging a kid across the classroom....

I get that u like kicking up dust and such...But come on Truth...lol...This shit is ridiculous...

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434. "why can't they both be wrong? Just because one person is wrong doesn't....."
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automatically make the other person right. I had similar feelings about the Mike Brown case.

Should a person in a position of authority be held to a higher standard? Absolutely.

The cop was over the top but he was doing what he was ordered to do. The administrator had called him to remove the student from the classroom and that's what he did.

Its easy to point fingers and blame people but this is a major crisis in the education system. Because of lawsuits and everything else the teachers and administration are scared to get into a confrontation with the students and the students KNOW this so they constantly push and challenge the boundaries, thus the need for "school resource officers".

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437. "RE: why can't they both be wrong? Just because one person is wrong doesn..."
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>automatically make the other person right. I had similar
>feelings about the Mike Brown case.
>
>Should a person in a position of authority be held to a higher
>standard? Absolutely.




This should have been the end of it....^^^^^^

I cut out the rest of your post because its meaningless....We are dealing with an adult vs. a fucking kid....

It ain't about pointing fingers as u say...It's about having common sense AND questioning why black kids seem to always get treated like grown ass adults....This is the same shit that happened at that pool party in Texas when some girl in a bathing suit found herself face down on the concrete because a cop was being very overzealous and frankly racist and stupid...

Black kids are not allowed to be dickheads like white kids...There's a zero tolerance....

Like I said, the girl ain't no angel....But at the very least she should be given the benefit to be treated like a immature kid...Add the fact that she's a foster kid and u got some really complex shit going on here...

Bottom line: if you find yourself agreeing with the talking heads on Fox News, u know at the very least u r doing too much....









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442. "RE: why can't they both be wrong? Just because one person is wrong doesn..."
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>This should have been the end of it....^^^^^^
>
>I cut out the rest of your post because its meaningless....We
>are dealing with an adult vs. a fucking kid....

I hear all that, but I'm from the school of thought that a "kid" should stay in kids place. When they want to step out of that and pretend that they are an adult and want to challenge authority don't get upset when you get treated like an adult.

A teacher, an administrator, and the SRO had ASKED her to leave the classroom. After she says no I guess they're supposed to tuck their tails and let her do whatever she wants? What happens the next day when another kid tries the same thing.

>It ain't about pointing fingers as u say...It's about having
>common sense AND questioning why black kids seem to always get
>treated like grown ass adults....This is the same shit that
>happened at that pool party in Texas when some girl in a
>bathing suit found herself face down on the concrete because a
>cop was being very overzealous and frankly racist and
>stupid...

This and the girl at the pool party in Texas are completely different situations as far as I'm concerned.


>Black kids are not allowed to be dickheads like white
>kids...There's a zero tolerance....

Black adults either, welcome to America.


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439. "SHE GOT BEAT THE FUCK UP FOR WHAT SHE DID, NUMBNUTS."
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so most of us don't give a shit about pontificating about how wrong she was. it's fucking PATENT. and so in the fuck what?

plus as i said SHE PAID FOR HER BAD BEHAVIOR. she was battered by cop, she is suffering physical injuries and she is emotionally devastated, per her lawyer. also she was arrested, probably jailed, and has been criminally charged.

SHE HAS PAID FOR BEING FUCKING DISRESPECTFUL to professionals who overreacted b/c she bruised their fucking egos.

so we don't give a FUCK about what she did. it's fucking over.

the fact that you assholes keep trying to make this case about 'these kids today' makes me suspect you just hate kids. or maybe just Black kids. i dunno.

but this girl is NOT the example for your cause. b/c she's recent **ORPHAN** who has been placed in foster care. if she's acting out it's like DUH!! no fucking shit she's acting out - she just suffered some pretty traumatic life events and she is ill-equipped to handle them b/c she's a fucking kid. so yeah she's gonna misfuckingbehave you dimwit. she needs goddamned EMPATHY from the ppl around her - especially adults charged w/her care and instruction. so make your fucking case w/a kid who has both parents and isn't in fucking foster care. god damn.

fuck you.

  

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443. "You don't even think children should be spanked so there's no point in....."
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even having this discussion with you.

That's part of the problem.

If kids don't learn discipline at home they're going to end up learning it somewhere else.

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451. "i think children need discipline and correction."
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i don't think violence is required to discipline or correct them. in fact i think violence toward children (aka corporal punishment in any form) is abhorrent.

but i do not think that children should not be disciplined or corrected when needed.

and, again - the girl in this case has already been battered, arrested, jailed, and criminally charged all b/c a teacher, admin and cop overreacted after she bruised their egos w/her defiance which was likely rooted at least in part in the trauma she recently suffered upon the death of her mother and her placement in foster care. i think this girl needs support more than correction for that minor offense. i think her offense is the type teens commit on a regular basis. it's an offense that merits correction and possibly punishment depending on the circumstance. this girl didn't need punishment - she needed empathy. b/c she's obviously hurting emotionally. and now, thanks to the teacher, admin and cop, she's hurting physically on top of the emotional pain she was dealing w/due to her mom's death. also she's now suffering new emotional scars thanks to the failure of the teacher and admin.

fuck you.

  

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440. "nigga said he did what he was ordered to do...ya'll watch way"
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too much tv lmao

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441. "read the news reports, it says the SRO was "ordered to remove the girl"...."
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from the classroom.

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444. "who ordered it....his seargant?...his colonel?...his captain?"
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who ordered the code red my nigg
http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/174/22174/215221.jpg


because a school administrator can't order an officer to do a got damn thing

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448. "are you sure about that?"
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>because a school administrator can't order an officer to do a
>got damn thing
>

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495. "i sure am...a SRO is a police officer...they dont take ORDERS"
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from school administrators

they respond to incidents

they take orders from their superiors

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376. "even w/ the orphan info y'all still want her flogged. I hate you "
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with a passion

never reproduce, please

we share the same planet and that makes me I'm sad, especially cause y'all mostly POCs

when your kid steps into my, or my people's classrooms, no wonder we got so much work to do, 'cause y'all on that totalitarian acculturate to WSCP shit that makes them feel afraid to manifest their life force, embrace their feelings, work through their intellectual and creative capacities, and have an adult that understands with all the shit they deal with as growing humans their brains are always developing.

again, I hate you

respect to Longo, SW, Murph and the usual suspects trying to give you neanderthals some perspective, some light

but naw, fuck yall

  

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381. "Life is rough. But that doesn't change the rules. STFU "
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They were both in the wrong.

Stop condoning her initial misbehavior.

  

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393. "the 8th amendment in that same rule book too....but of course"
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that only applies to erybody else

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398. "Fuck you ambient1"
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You apologetic ass sambo! SURE, the cop was an adult who lost their head. SURE, the cop was supposedly a professional in de-escalation. SURE, he out right assaulted someone who weighs 1/3rd then him, who's a female, and who did nothing physical to him! SHE FUCKED UP BY ACTING LIKE A GODDAMNED NORMAL TEENAGER. who the fuck does that? Obviously she forgot she's a black kid and she's not allowed to talk back, play hooky, or smoke in the bathroom or else whatever she has coming is 100% earned!

Thankfully we live in a nation where adults can fuck 14 year olds, 15 year olds can buy beer, and 12 year olds can get credit cards because their maturity is equal to an adult at all times. Who cares if that little bitch lost her moms and is living in a foster home, that little ignorant hoodrat shouldda known to put her phone away OR GET THE CHOKED OUT.

Hell, my dick is hard right now off this self-hate disguised in 'spare the rod'-isms. Im sure other posters feel the same way.

  

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402. "lol....exactly....the white man sure did a number on us"
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and these the same type of niggas who end up as police

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418. "This is fantastic satire."
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Well done.

>You apologetic ass sambo! SURE, the cop was an adult who lost
>their head. SURE, the cop was supposedly a professional in
>de-escalation. SURE, he out right assaulted someone who weighs
>1/3rd then him, who's a female, and who did nothing physical
>to him! SHE FUCKED UP BY ACTING LIKE A GODDAMNED NORMAL
>TEENAGER. who the fuck does that? Obviously she forgot she's
>a black kid and she's not allowed to talk back, play hooky, or
>smoke in the bathroom or else whatever she has coming is 100%
>earned!
>
>Thankfully we live in a nation where adults can fuck 14 year
>olds, 15 year olds can buy beer, and 12 year olds can get
>credit cards because their maturity is equal to an adult at
>all times. Who cares if that little bitch lost her moms and
>is living in a foster home, that little ignorant hoodrat
>shouldda known to put her phone away OR GET THE CHOKED OUT.
>
>Hell, my dick is hard right now off this self-hate disguised
>in 'spare the rod'-isms. Im sure other posters feel the same
>way.
>

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422. "RE: Fuck you ambient1"
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>You apologetic ass sambo! SURE, the cop was an adult who lost
>their head. SURE, the cop was supposedly a professional in
>de-escalation. SURE, he out right assaulted someone who weighs
>1/3rd then him, who's a female, and who did nothing physical
>to him! SHE FUCKED UP BY ACTING LIKE A GODDAMNED NORMAL
>TEENAGER. who the fuck does that? Obviously she forgot she's
>a black kid and she's not allowed to talk back, play hooky, or
>smoke in the bathroom or else whatever she has coming is 100%
>earned!
>
>Thankfully we live in a nation where adults can fuck 14 year
>olds, 15 year olds can buy beer, and 12 year olds can get
>credit cards because their maturity is equal to an adult at
>all times. Who cares if that little bitch lost her moms and
>is living in a foster home, that little ignorant hoodrat
>shouldda known to put her phone away OR GET THE CHOKED OUT.
>
>Hell, my dick is hard right now off this self-hate disguised
>in 'spare the rod'-isms. Im sure other posters feel the same
>way.


THIS^^^^^^

(HOWLING....but crying on the inside....)

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425. "BigRed wins; flawless victory."
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fatality.

  

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426. ":-)"
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https://leadingpersonality.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/smug-smile.jpg

fuck you.

  

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447. "Both were at fault. Don't condone insubordination. "
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You just want me to ignore the fact that somehow one's circumstances are supposed to excuse piss poor behavior in the face of authority

1. Take your ass out of that classroom

2. I'm glad the cop got fired.

  

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454. "why not? says who? why is insubordination bad?"
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spell it out.

  

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474. "Why is insubordination bad? GTFOHWTBS"
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Keep your bad ass kids in order.

  

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475. "my kids would spread some disorder."
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>Keep your bad ass kids in order.

your society sucks.
the last thing we need is
more obedient children.

kids these days obey too much.

damn.

fuck the cop that bodyslammed her
and fuck anybody that thought
she brought that ass kicking on herself for being a disobedient child.


we free.

to anybody reading this,
disobey cops if you want to.

this coon can't even tell you why
you shouldn't be insubordinate.


  

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491. "Her mom is dead."
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>Keep your bad ass kids in order.

She was orphaned recently. She's a teenager. It's in teenagers' fucking job descriptions to be insubordinate. You're a moron.

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385. "Niggas would strangle their own daughter on some honor killing"
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to keep that respectability politics 100%.

I love how we are expecting kids never to act up in class on some minor shit, not putting a cellphone away in class, and everyone is like 'YOU'RE LETTING HER SLIDE. HER GETTING HER ASS BEAT AND ARRESTED BY A COP IS HER OWN FAULT'.

When in like 6th grade a teacher used to throw erasers at us playfully if we weren't paying attention; one time I thew it back and got in trouble. These niggas would have wanted me to get shot on sight on some, "WELL, NOW HE WILL NEVER KNOW NOT TO DO IT AGAIN"

  

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386. "godleeluv said the COP IS A VICTIM."
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she said everyone involved - which means she thinks both the girl AND THE COP are victims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjnZO5ZgWE8

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392. "SoWhat said the girl is ABSOLVED OF ALL BLAME"
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404. "you're unraveling "
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406. "She is....ALL the blame for this is on the teacher, administrator, & cop..."
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In fact, I'd throw a lot of blame to the principal/school district who hired these wastes of foreskin to be in any positions of power over children.

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413. "I think he's merely pointing out that kids will be kids."
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They do stupid stuff. Like desecrate graveyards. throw rocks through windows. Play hooky. Wear inappropriate clothes. Give authority figures the finger.

These things will literally, NEVER cease to happen. And dealing with them is a huge part of parenting/teaching/mentoring kids. Kids NEED space to do these things. Great leaders....successful adults often have these types of behaviors in the childhood past.

The one thing we CAN control....and MUST.....is to NEVER ACCEPT an assault like this on a child. Such an act is only necessary in the most dire of situations. IE They have a weapon and are threatening to use it against somebody. Or they are threatening to hurt themselves.

NOT EVER because they are refusing to comply with a cellphone rule or whatever the hell happened here.

I can't even read this whole thread cause it's just so shocking to me how many people don't seem to get that.

  

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415. "thanks for making me laugh, fam"
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cause these fools is wylin' in here

  

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407. "Raven Symone is a tragedy by the way."
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She's trolling at this point.

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410. "she sits in Hasselbacks chair right? "
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her job is to troll hard...




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412. "i'd think more of her if i believed she was trolling"
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but i think that's who she really is. ain't no schtick, aint no gimmick.

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427. "she's not clever enough to troll."
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she actually means this bullshit she says. she's THAT dim-witted.

fuck you.

  

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433. "Yup. You can actually see the stupid "
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It's in the eyes

Always is

  

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481. "nope she is that stupid"
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I have "hung out" with her 3 or 4 times. Granted this was 13-14 years ago but she is dumb as a bag of rocks.

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493. "There's a petition to get her removed from the show lol"
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https://www.change.org/p/barbara-walters-petition-to-remove-raven-symone-from-the-view?recruiter=293473025

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414. "the school resource officer was nicknamed “Officer Slam.”"
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According to students

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/28/3716995/richland-county-sheriff-student-started-it/

coon train done left the station massa

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420. "and it wasnt racial because his girlfriend is black"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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421. "lol"
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Yep. Those SS Nazi officers who had Jewish mistresses weren't racist either.

I gotta stop following this story.

  

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423. "Carlos Martin (another Ben Fields victim) interview:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6BQJPAv4BI

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430. "yikes..."
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Richland County Sheriff's Department legend continues...

First it was running over suspects...then it was shooting folks during routine traffic stops...now this...

  

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431. "Another issue I had, for an 11 year vet, and all the touting they were"
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doing of Officer Slam's service

why was he a SRO?

seems like a lowly gig for law enforcement

now you know

need the whole story (c) Don Lemon

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435. "I agree with this..."
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>doing of Officer Slam's service
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>why was he a SRO?
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>seems like a lowly gig for law enforcement
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>now you know
>
>need the whole story (c) Don Lemon

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438. "The glaring problem, IMO, with the US media is there is no accountabilit..."
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MFers were real quick to jump up in the officer's defense

now that we're getting more of the story

those same MFers should be called to the carpet and held accountable

if they want to change their stance now, fine

but to just let it go, nah, they f'd up.

same with the debates

somebody says some bullshit, call bullshit

instead you have to look up some internet fact check story

it's really sad

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436. "what beer goes best with gumbo? I think Abita"
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446. "RE: SC Resource Officer Slams (female) Student"
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All this talk about how she could've complied is fucking irrelevant... You don't get physical with a child for not complying. If all they wanted her to do was put her phone up Why didn't the officer just come in and take the damn phone from her, called her parents and suspended her? That is good enough punishment for someone that disobeys classroom rules. You people that believe this was ok are really ill and you all should really be questioning yourselves as to why you think violence is the appropriate responsse to a nonviolent individual. I seen a video recently where two kids were fighting and the principal tried to break it up, in the midst of this the principal was slammed by one of the students. In a situation like this YES please get physical with this child because he is out of control. But a nonviolent girl sitting at her desk not putting up her phone, I don't see how some of these people are in agreement with his actions. You guys really need to wake up.

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459. "She was wrong as two left shoes."
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But that's neither here nor there. Completely different discussion.

I don't get ppl trying to act like because she got body slammed her disrespect for authority the teacher and class and disrupting others students learning is some noble thing she did.

  

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464. "Who's doing this? What'd they say?"
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fuck you.

  

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465. "thats that NEW nigga narrative, shit waters down the whole cause"
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469. "what cause?"
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And who is no longer believes in it
based on this new nigga negative?

spell it out.
make it plain.

  

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461. "don't care about any of it"
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he was rightfully fired

she was unjustly tossed around

dude was nicknamed officer slam and i really don't feel like race is that important a factor here

police culture is basically the long legacy of american culture...it's why we'll never feel ok disarming cops or citizens alike

maybe i'm just outrage fatigued

i don't have a lot of faith in human decency whether they are teens are adults...and i'd be pissed at my daughter AND the SRO officer

they need to drop those charges on the teens with the phones and let the schools mishandle that per usual

edit: u know what...it is fatigue and this is likely racially motivated based on more info about him

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467. "that's a lot for someone who doesn't care. "
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470. "Funny how history is so important in these situations"
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Like what she did before the cameras were turned on, or what Michael Brown did in a convenience store before he was shot. Apparently that's important context that justifies violence and ending a life.

But the instant someone wants to raise a history of slavery and racism suddenly that's insufficient cause for protest let alone assault and shooting people in the back.

Let alone a child with a tough past and allegedly a few behavioural issues.

Just IMO though.

  

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473. "I think this is a bigger issue in contrast to the history of the officer..."
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>Like what she did before the cameras were turned on, or what
>Michael Brown did in a convenience store before he was shot.
>Apparently that's important context that justifies violence
>and ending a life.

I think this is particularly glaring in light of the fact that conservative pundits especially like to ignore the history of the officers in these incidents. When we get an officer with a history of brutality allegation, there's always this push to view a given incident solely in terms of the incident in question where the officer is concerned while even the smallest infractions or character flaws of the victim becomes a prominent talking point.

I actually think it's 100% fair and even vital to look at the behavior of the victims in these situations. In the case of this particular girl, she was disruptive and refused to abide by the authority of her teacher by refusing to not only give up her phone, but also to put it away. I think it's important to take note of the behavior of the victims in contrast to the actions of the officer so that it more clearly and accurately illustrates the disparity between the actions of the victims and the disproportionate responses of these officers. This way the chorus of "but he's just doing his job!" and "you don't understand the stress!" and "he puts his life on the line!" actually looks more absurd by comparison.

>But the instant someone wants to raise a history of slavery
>and racism suddenly that's insufficient cause for protest let
>alone assault and shooting people in the back.

Yep. It's definitely a one way street. I remember a conversation with a conservative friend about Zimmerman. He ONLY cared about who attacked who first when it came to Zimmerman, but with Trayvon he was willing to make all manner of assumptions. It took the string of Zimmerman run ins for him to finally admit Zimmerman was a scumbag, however he still couldn't bring himself to see Trayvon as an innocent victim.

These guys see "race card" more than they see any real racial dynamic and introducing historical context is considered "living in the past" because, you know, a black guy is president and all so that means we've all moved on.

Sadly I think we're at a point where even the most egregious smoking gun footage is treated with a degree of cynicism, always the exception and never the rule. Even without the presence of racial dynamics there's a very thick layer of hero worship when it comes to cops that prevents many people from casting a critical eye in their direction.

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479. "What this is really about..."
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485. "damn. "
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nice.

fuck you.

  

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483. "Going VERY off-topic a little bit, being African..."
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...I have to admit I'm conflicted here.

I felt more a pang of disgust at the officer only because this is one of those things that people shouldn't do "over there" in America.

But this girls behavior in the schools I went to in Zambia would have been dealt with just as harshly, if not *worse* and nobody would have batted an eye-lid because it would have been the right thing to do pretty much.

Shit, my dad would have probably marched me right back to school afterwards just so he could whoop my ass in front of everybody his damn self.

I'm curious to know how other people who grew up and went to school in other African countries view the reactions to situations like this in the US.

  

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484. "that shit is wrong in Africa too."
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i don't care who does it where. it's wrong everywhere. and don't let your battered-child-syndrome convince you that abuse is okay. it's never okay no matter who does it or where.

fuck you.

  

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486. "being African...im completely disgusted by this behaviour"
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>...I have to admit I'm conflicted here.
>
>I felt more a pang of disgust at the officer only because this
>is one of those things that people shouldn't do "over there"
>in America.

i dont know whats happening in zambia but this shit wouldnt have happened in schools in kenya

in fact, corporal punishment (caning and all that)
was recently outlawed in kenya

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497. "This was not punishment, it was assault"
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Like akon said, corporal punishment is winding down here and even in it's hey day the teacher would smack her hands with a hose.
A grown man throwing a teen girl to the ground and dragging her would have her whole clan at the school howling for blood.
This was inexcusable in any culture.

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487. "some real idiots in here..zero excuse for any student not displaying"
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a weapon to be treated this way by a school official...zero...definitely grounds for an asswhupping by the parent

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489. "Where are Black children safe? (NYT link)"
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NYT nailed it. Right on the head.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/30/opinion/where-are-black-children-safe.html?mwrsm=Email

fuck you.

  

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492. "he's just a child..."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/19/student-pushes-teacher-down_n_5351220.html

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494. "that child is wrong."
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it looks like he violated the teacher's rule and the school's policy about phones. the teacher was likely right to take it from him. it seems he further violated school policy by pushing the teacher. and he also may have committed a criminal offense.



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496. "What that case got to do with this one tho?"
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Oh wait, I know!
You're saying we didn't see what happened beforehand, so maybe she deserved it...
just like people are saying about the girl in this case.

Or maybe you're saying all Black children deserve the same treatment no matter
what they're doing. You're saying they deserve to be assaulted and criminally
charged whether they're being violent or not.

Either way, both of these statements are idiotic, and you have absolutely no point.

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498. "You are a moron."
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500. "Absolutely. WE ARE 100% PRO-TEACHER ASSAULT"
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I hope that elderly teacher dies because we are all anti-school here #killteachers

I know what you're thinking "thatruth" in the face of fucking leftist assholes like us who think fucking up kids is WRONG.

"Luckily Office Slam was there to protect the life of the teacher in the OP by throwing that probably high on PCP wilderbeast for not putting her cellphone away. Cellphone waves are carcinogens; Who would have supported the teachers kid when he dies in 48 years?!? On top of the fact that since it was so throwable it was an immediate threat. You've seen that animal Serena and her power, don't let those negros fool you into thinking that just because she's a female teen she's 'harmless' I hope she gets what she deserves in jail, toothbrush shank style, right in her ovaries so she doesn't have any children that will grow up to be animals themselves"

  

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