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John Forte
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"Millennial fuckboys who wouldn't have been allowed to cook 20 years ago"


          

Inspired by Ernest Baker. I feel like niggas would have got him out the paint in three weeks, back in the day.

Then there's that dude Stitches. He never would have gotten on. Bronson would have been silenced too. Brother Ali happened, but he ain't really prosper like that.

  

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Bro you forgot Macklemore
Dec 04th 2015
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Somehow, I think he could have happened
Dec 04th 2015
2
      He would have been G-Love and Special Sauce status
Dec 04th 2015
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           lol.
Dec 04th 2015
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           oh yah that guy.
Dec 04th 2015
25
           nah, old heads in the seattle scene rock with Mack
Dec 05th 2015
28
got me scratching my head over here...
Dec 04th 2015
4
Brother Ali isn't a millennial. He's close to 40.
Dec 04th 2015
5
I know. He was my example of a fuckboy from our generation
Dec 04th 2015
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      people are confused as to why you call him that
Dec 04th 2015
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           He literally pretended to be black
Dec 04th 2015
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                No not quite.
Dec 04th 2015
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                I literally just learned he's white albino
Dec 05th 2015
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                     I mean, it's not like he never speaks on it
Dec 05th 2015
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                          I thought he was black
Dec 06th 2015
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                               Because when he first came out, he wanted you to
Dec 06th 2015
61
it's been a bad week for YT rappers...
Dec 04th 2015
8
lmao that video was comical
Dec 05th 2015
43
That Badu shit was fuckin HILARIOUS!
Dec 05th 2015
44
Seriously
Dec 04th 2015
9
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^...
Dec 04th 2015
10
Yeah he needs a 2 week ban from listening to hip hop for that one
Dec 04th 2015
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lmao
Dec 04th 2015
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Yeah, I was going to add that too.
Dec 04th 2015
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RE: Yeah, I was going to add that too.
Dec 04th 2015
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      all that industry stuff aside, guys
Dec 04th 2015
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      Nah b... nah...
Dec 04th 2015
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      He pretended to be black
Dec 04th 2015
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           When? 'cause I don't remember that.
Dec 04th 2015
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           Take your L chief
Dec 05th 2015
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           dude is the Ben Carson of music discussions
Dec 05th 2015
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                ha!
Dec 06th 2015
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           Forte couldnt cite anything to support this if he wanted to
Dec 05th 2015
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                I assumed people remembered, but here we go:
Dec 05th 2015
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                     Yea I'm surprised folk forgot about that
Dec 05th 2015
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                     none of that is even remotely him claiming to be black
Dec 06th 2015
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                     RE: righteous black man
Dec 06th 2015
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                          That is AN interpretation
Dec 06th 2015
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                               And then there's this
Dec 06th 2015
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                                    Oh, you niggas real quiet now
Dec 07th 2015
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                                         Lol
Dec 07th 2015
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                                         Where yo ass was at when Ali was a brother?
Dec 07th 2015
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                                         Hello from the other side. Y'all forgot when Ali lied
Dec 07th 2015
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                                         Pettie Kendricks.
Dec 07th 2015
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                                              They fried me, yung. Now I'm partying
Dec 07th 2015
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                                         Y'all can't "new number. Who dis" this shit
Dec 07th 2015
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                                         LOL
Dec 08th 2015
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                                         Ooop!
Dec 07th 2015
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 04th 2015
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Im stunned
Dec 04th 2015
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^^^^
Dec 05th 2015
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Yeah, nothing fuckboy about Brother Ali
Dec 08th 2015
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I feel no kinds of sympathy for Stitches.
Dec 04th 2015
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Nigga do you even use that word in real life?
Dec 04th 2015
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prolly not...matter of fact...I'ma say NO.
Dec 05th 2015
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He also made a thread like "IS THIS DISRESPECTFUL TO GAYS?"
Dec 06th 2015
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      oopths
Dec 06th 2015
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      Actually, nearly everyone disagreed with me
Dec 06th 2015
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           correct
Dec 07th 2015
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bronson is a millenial fuck boy?
Dec 04th 2015
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learn about it:
Dec 05th 2015
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 05th 2015
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Tyler, Mac Miller, Wiz....maybe?? But Brother Ali??
Dec 05th 2015
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If we're being honest.......Drake and Kid Cudi.
Dec 05th 2015
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I can see having issue with Brother Ali at one point
Dec 05th 2015
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Wait, Brother Ali isn't a fuckboi b/c he cool w/ some posters here or b/...
Dec 05th 2015
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If a rapper is a "fuck boy" based on how he treats women
Dec 05th 2015
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I dont thinik John is using "fuckboy" in ithat way.
Dec 06th 2015
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      RE: I dont thinik John is using "fuckboy" in ithat way.
Dec 06th 2015
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           Thank you for your reply I learned a lot.
Dec 07th 2015
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You lumping AB in with Stitches? L.
Dec 06th 2015
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Are there any millenials who aren't mad slammable?
Dec 06th 2015
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as some one who has been in public k-8 ed for 8yrs
Dec 06th 2015
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Congrats on being able to do better push-ups than a kindergartener
Dec 06th 2015
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      .
Dec 06th 2015
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      Lmao. Thx for giving us drake and the rise of soccer fandom
Dec 07th 2015
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That's just more "our__________ was better" sentiment
Dec 06th 2015
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right? i dont see it
Dec 06th 2015
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      gotta hear both sides
Dec 06th 2015
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      Lol I hoop with kids that age too
Dec 07th 2015
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No. None. Every male born after 1987 is mad pussy
Dec 06th 2015
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Rousey, LBJ, All of the UFC, Every pro boxer, every NFL/NBA/MLB/MMA....
Dec 06th 2015
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      Lebron is 6'8 250 and flops like a girl
Dec 07th 2015
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           But, can you slam him?
Dec 07th 2015
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Good post. The whole Brother Ali section was interesting
Dec 07th 2015
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millenial fuckboys... lmao
Dec 07th 2015
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sounds like a line in House of Lies
Dec 07th 2015
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Stitches is partially blind now I-(
Dec 08th 2015
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So what.
Dec 08th 2015
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      you the type of n*gga that talks during tv shows arent you?
Dec 08th 2015
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           What a nonsensical conclusion
Dec 08th 2015
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                What are you basing this accusation on?
Dec 08th 2015
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                     What did you base your conclusion on?
Dec 08th 2015
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                          damn that's deep so you draw conclusions off of smiley faces....
Dec 08th 2015
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                               Context is key. You drew a conclusion so I drew one myself
Dec 08th 2015
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So John hit y'all with a nice ass comeback.
Dec 08th 2015
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T Reynolds
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1. "Bro you forgot Macklemore"
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and definitely Drake

  

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John Forte
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2. "Somehow, I think he could have happened "
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Also not certain he's a fuckboy...or a millennial

  

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3. "He would have been G-Love and Special Sauce status"
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7. "lol."
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https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

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Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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25. "oh yah that guy."
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Fri Dec-04-15 10:54 PM by denny

          

He actually had a couple nice tracks. First album with the upright bass was dope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBrZHCSbEM

Just revisiting now.....holds up better than i thought. Wonder if Quest was buds with these guys. Drummer was pretty damn good. Subsequent albums got more and more lame....but the debut was pretty nice. First track even has a break that I've jotted down for future use.

  

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astralblak
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28. "nah, old heads in the seattle scene rock with Mack"
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Ish said, he's his come up since he left NY after the Digable break up and Mack is good in his book

  

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4. "got me scratching my head over here..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaCRcrNOJqw

'Cause I'm like "Ernest Baker??? King Ernest??? Didn't he die back in 2000?"


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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5. "Brother Ali isn't a millennial. He's close to 40."
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He's as much a product of '80s and '90s as the other rappers from his era.

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John Forte
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6. "I know. He was my example of a fuckboy from our generation "
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14. "people are confused as to why you call him that"
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John Forte
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22. "He literally pretended to be black"
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24. "No not quite."
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Not at any time since he's been putting out music.

On his first album he said in speaking about being a teen he said
"I told him 'Listen stupid, I know what you're here to do
But we're not gonna do it
This is a movement that I'm part of it
You're lucky I'm a righteous blackman'
And you thought I had issues now, really had em back then"

He's clearly saying I am not black, and at one point, when I had serious issues, I thought I was.

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31. "I literally just learned he's white albino"
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39. "I mean, it's not like he never speaks on it"
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Forrest Whitaker was one of his first big hits and it's pretty much all about him not fitting in because he's albino.

  

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55. "I thought he was black"
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61. "Because when he first came out, he wanted you to "
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8. "it's been a bad week for YT rappers..."
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first slim jesus got bodied at his own show
stiches got knocked out
iggy got yanked by badu

what a time (c) Drake

  

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43. "lmao that video was comical"
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that dude that took his mic took a step back like that skinny fuck might do something hahahaa

  

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44. "That Badu shit was fuckin HILARIOUS!"
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She gave NO FUCKZ!

Its da movement for 2k16,....#takeourcultureback!

These outsiders cold gettin reckless wit our shit. Between Ghostface smackin fire outta Bronson and Badu pullin' Iggy's card, I crack smiles
wit a cold brew on some, "Sho you right!" shit.




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9. "Seriously"
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Fri Dec-04-15 03:24 PM by double 0

          

Yo...

Never ever in your fuckin life should you put Brother Ali & f**kboy in the same paragraph..

Seriously never ever

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10. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^..."
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>Yo...
>
>Never ever in your fuckin life should you put Brother Ali &
>f**kboy in the same paragraph..
>
>Seriously never ever

The audacity of this nigga is mind boggling. It's plenty of 33 year olds out here doing fuck shit for him to talk about.

  

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11. "Yeah he needs a 2 week ban from listening to hip hop for that one"
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18. "lmao"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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12. "Yeah, I was going to add that too."
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But people who know, know.

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15. "RE: Yeah, I was going to add that too."
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Ali is the most stand up, generous and good-hearted dude I know in this game outside of Bun B..

shit is just slanderous and uncalled for

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16. "all that industry stuff aside, guys"
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you gotta know on the purest of surface levels, he can rub people the wrong way

  

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19. "Nah b... nah..."
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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23. "He pretended to be black "
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26. "When? 'cause I don't remember that."
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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30. "Take your L chief"
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you know not of what you speak of.

  

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33. "dude is the Ben Carson of music discussions"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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65. "ha!"
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

  

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35. "Forte couldnt cite anything to support this if he wanted to"
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______________________________________

Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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40. "I assumed people remembered, but here we go:"
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Sat Dec-05-15 05:01 PM by John Forte

          

Early in his career, he referred to himself as a righteous black man in songs.

http://genius.com/Brother-ali-win-some-lose-some-lyrics/

He talked about going to lay low at his grandmother's house on the South Side of Chicago (not conculsive, but definitely shorthand for black)

http://genius.com/Brother-ali-nine-double-em-lyrics

And then there's this interview where he talks about his racial identity:

http://stopbeingfamous.com/2013/11/13/brother-ali-speaks-about-his-journey/_3308199.html


Early in his career, Ali was on that Dolezal. AT best, you can say he was coy abut his race and didn't correct writers who wrote that he was Black.

http://www.popmatters.com/feature/brother-ali-has-finally-laid-down-the-undisputed-truth/





  

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42. "Yea I'm surprised folk forgot about that"
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I remember seeing arguments on the UGHH forums about racial fluidity over that ish back in 07. He was Rachel Dolezal'n before he caught any real heat over it. If that happened today he def would've gotten aired out by black twitter.

  

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53. "none of that is even remotely him claiming to be black"
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wow what a bad agenda

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60. "RE: righteous black man"
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AGAIN: the very next line is "you thought I had issues now I really had em back then" which directly implies that he is not black but was confused as a teenager.

It's not his fault that YOU can only understand one line at a time and are allergic to context.

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62. "That is AN interpretation "
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You mention context, and I assume you mean the context of the verse, but you also have to look at the context in which we heard that. The context is new, albino rapper calling himself Brother Ali and rapping about laying low at his grandmother's crib on the South Side of Chicago. If you know he's white, it's easy to interpret the rhyme the way you did, but be did not publicly admit to his whiteness until some time about 06. That shit dropped in 2000. Countless articles came out calling him a black albino, and it took him six or seven years to correct the record.

  

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63. "And then there's this"
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http://www.prefixmag.com/mobile/post/12340/

"Especially in my state, Minnesota, the family department is very intrusive and they love to cook them a black person, they love that shit here. Whether it's your wife, your kids, or whatever, they love taking brothers to jail. The slightest little tip and they'll come get you. My wife can't get a checkup without an interrogation about if I hit her and if she feels safe and all this stuff. That's very big in our state."

  

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69. "Oh, you niggas real quiet now"
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70. "Lol "
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72. "Where yo ass was at when Ali was a brother?"
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73. "Hello from the other side. Y'all forgot when Ali lied"
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77. "Pettie Kendricks."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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79. "They fried me, yung. Now I'm partying"
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They not around, so I might send these niggas evites to come collect their Ls.

  

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80. "Y'all can't "new number. Who dis" this shit"
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88. "LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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83. "Ooop!"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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17. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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*************************************
like.me
http://tinyurl.com/3z8486u

"if the children are not initiated into the village they will burn it down just to feel its warmth." - african proverb

  

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20. "Im stunned"
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It's like he tried to think of the person who would least fit this description, and then put that.

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http://www.soundcloud.com/sectachrome

  

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29. "^^^^"
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94. "Yeah, nothing fuckboy about Brother Ali"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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13. "I feel no kinds of sympathy for Stitches."
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I can't stand attention whores who do and say just about anything for shine and those who start beefs for no good reason. That moron ended up doing both, thus my disdain for this character. Dude set himself up to get knocked out and eventually get arrested. Stupid idiot.


Since 1976

  

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21. "Nigga do you even use that word in real life?"
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32. "prolly not...matter of fact...I'ma say NO. "
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48. "He also made a thread like "IS THIS DISRESPECTFUL TO GAYS?""
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Everyone said yes and now I feel like he uses it more often than before.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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50. "oopths"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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51. "Actually, nearly everyone disagreed with me"
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71. "correct"
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I was one of those who disagreed, on the grounds that it's current proliferation in the "mainstream" vernacular is some "millennial" shit

(likely due to exposure through rap music. it's kind of how people started saying "BEYOTCH" because of The Chronic)

  

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27. "bronson is a millenial fuck boy?"
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im way out of touch apparently

  

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34. "learn about it:"
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https://soundcloud.com/ineffable-music/markis-precise-the-feeling-of-flying-feat-brother-ali

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But hell, what do I know?

  

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45. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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36. "Tyler, Mac Miller, Wiz....maybe?? But Brother Ali??"
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Sounding a bit crazy...

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Everyone here hates pop music, but loves Michael Jackson... Okay Player...

  

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37. "If we're being honest.......Drake and Kid Cudi."
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38. "I can see having issue with Brother Ali at one point"
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There used to be some identity issues back when he first started and he said some things that he probably shouldn't have but I feel like he's owned up to that and these days he's much more straight forward about who he is and what he represents.

I actually just saw him last night and he was speaking a lot about how hip-hop is a celebration of the genius of black and brown men and how if you don't love the people who created the culture, you can't claim to love hip-hop.

I think it's reasonable to have an issue with one thing that he did but the man has really become an incredible leader not just in hip-hop but in the community as well and really seems like a stand up guy.

  

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41. "Wait, Brother Ali isn't a fuckboi b/c he cool w/ some posters here or b/..."
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ain't nobody bringing receipts or b/c he's a good rapper? 2/3 or all of the above??

Many moons ago, there was a lot of chatter about how the Brother & other Rhymesayer artists treated women. I heard nothing accusing BA of assault, just your run of the mill nice guy misogyny stuff (the incident I witnessed didn't involve BA but shit, birds of a feather & what not). Maybe, his fuckboism is in remission tho lol Idk.

<<Mood...Poppy Okotcha in Look 1 at Ashish Fall 2016
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46. "If a rapper is a "fuck boy" based on how he treats women"
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it might be quicker to start a post listing rappers who aren't fuck boys

(btw I am not cosigning the accusations of Ali/RS, never heard anything about that)

  

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49. "I dont thinik John is using "fuckboy" in ithat way."
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Recently black feminists/womanists rebranded "fuckboy" as a term for misogynistic/politically unaware men but this post looks like the old school iteration.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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59. "RE: I dont thinik John is using "fuckboy" in ithat way."
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>Recently black feminists/womanists rebranded "fuckboy" as a
>term for misogynistic/politically unaware men but this post
>looks like the old school iteration.

This doesnt sound right either

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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78. "Thank you for your reply I learned a lot."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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47. "You lumping AB in with Stitches? L."
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I also think you are wrong, what is the big difference between someone like stitches and someone like Necro or Cage? Those guys were a little more talented and perhaps not as flagrant in their violations, but close enough for me.

The thing I think is off today is the collaboration with big ass pop stars. Could you imagine anyone in the 90s linking up with Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys? That would get your card pulled instantly. Now these sissies are lining up around the block to drop a verse behind Justin Bieber.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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52. "Are there any millenials who aren't mad slammable? "
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Seems the entire generation doesn't do dips or tricep push downs at all

  

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54. "as some one who has been in public k-8 ed for 8yrs "
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i can tell you watching the majority of the boys attempt to do push ups will make you realize what a different era we grew up in

  

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66. "Congrats on being able to do better push-ups than a kindergartener "
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67. "."
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nevermind

  

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76. "Lmao. Thx for giving us drake and the rise of soccer fandom"
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You guys are officially the greatest generation

Move over Gramps

  

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56. "That's just more "our__________ was better" sentiment"
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I guarantee every generation says that about the next

Shit WWII vets/Depression era men must look at every last man born after the war as pussy personified.

  

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58. "right? i dont see it"
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i play hoops with kids aged 15-25 and i dont see them as all being slammable or being any more slammable than our group was as a whole.

sure some of them are vags but we had our share of those, too.

i seen a few kids square up and scrap, pretty normal stuff.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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68. "gotta hear both sides"
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74. "Lol I hoop with kids that age too"
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And yeah there isn't much difference in slammability

My post was like 26% serious

  

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57. "No. None. Every male born after 1987 is mad pussy"
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cmon

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64. "Rousey, LBJ, All of the UFC, Every pro boxer, every NFL/NBA/MLB/MMA...."
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... aka most of the under 34 athletes and people in this world.

  

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75. "Lebron is 6'8 250 and flops like a girl"
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He also enjoys soccer


Bad example

  

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81. "But, can you slam him?"
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>RE: Lebron is 6'8 250 and flops like a girl

It should be possible for you to slam Lebron James since he's a millenial, right?

  

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82. "Good post. The whole Brother Ali section was interesting"
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He did some weirdo shit, but I guess most gloss over that whole phase because they deem him "for the cause".

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b8/05/31/b805311f05084e379e3ee4a2aca5fbef.jpg

His kids are bi-racial, so I'd say he has some investment in "blackness".

And it's not fair to say he couldn't pull it off in a previous era, when we grew up listening to this guy
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_nfn9q9QQT0/hqdefault.jpg
I'm told he used to use the N word pretty freely.






Some good snark being thrown around in this post too.

  

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84. "millenial fuckboys... lmao"
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who would ever call someone that shit to their face? lol

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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85. "sounds like a line in House of Lies"
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86. "Stitches is partially blind now I-("
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https://www.instagram.com/p/_CaIz7voFh/

  

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87. "So what. "
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That dude actively sought out drama

Went out of his way to have a physical altercation

I assume this is from that KO.

People can argue whether he got what he “deserved” but there’s no debating that he reaped a harvest sewn by his own hand.

I feel no sorrow for him. I hope he can continue to support his family but other than that who gives a fuck if he’s blind in one or both eyes as a result of that shit? He can either learn from this and embark on a new path or continue being the same knucklehead he was the night he got fucked up.

  

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89. "you the type of n*gga that talks during tv shows arent you?"
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i got your whole profile pegged

  

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90. "What a nonsensical conclusion "
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Then again, you make sad faces for idiots who suffer consequences for their stupidity.

You're that dude that applauds ignorance and plays the victim card when consequences arrive.

  

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91. "What are you basing this accusation on?"
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>Then again, you make sad faces for idiots who suffer
>consequences for their stupidity.
>
>You're that dude that applauds ignorance and plays the victim
>card when consequences arrive.
>

  

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92. "What did you base your conclusion on?"
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I based it on you making what appears to be a sad face at an idiot who got the consequences he worked hard to receive.

  

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93. "damn that's deep so you draw conclusions off of smiley faces...."
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Tue Dec-08-15 07:47 PM by Big Kuntry

  

          

i made the one in question as an homage of sorts to the blind, lol jokes on me, like they'd ever see it anyways.

Oooh what about this one?
ಠ_ಠ

What's Ol boy on here that be killin it? Dudes keyboard game is off the charts, I wonder how you'd react to him?

  

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95. "Context is key. You drew a conclusion so I drew one myself"
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I don't know you (or your OKP "persona", as it were) well enough to draw any real character conclusions.

To be clear, I don't actually think you think that way or any way on the subject. It was just some tit for tat nonsense.

I didn't see the blind face until you pointed it out and it's actually funny in context.

  

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96. "So John hit y'all with a nice ass comeback. "
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Tue Dec-08-15 08:09 PM by Cold Truth

  

          

Without doing any research whatsoever on the subject it looked like he was down for the count and possibly avoiding the post to avoid an L.

Right now it looks like he hulked the fuck out and hit his detractors in the face with a big yellow boot.

I can't call a leg drop until I see how he handles a rebuttal version (c) El P

  

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