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"US Congresswoman Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) SHOT"
Sat Jan-08-11 02:22 PM by KosherSam

          

http://www.gpb.org/news/2011/01/08/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

Congresswoman Shot In Arizona
By NPR Staff
Updated: 15 seconds ago

U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot outside a grocery store in Tucson while holding a public event, an eyewitness reported Saturday.

Giffords, who was re-elected to her third term in November, was hosting her first "Congress on Your Corner event at the Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting. At least five other people, including members of her staff, were hurt, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media.

Giffords was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Her condition was not immediately known.

Michaels said Giffords was talking to a couple when the man ran up, firing indiscriminately, and then ran off. He was tackled by a bystander and presumably taken into custody. Copyright 2011 National Public Radio. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.

WTF?????

Edit: She was on the Sarah Palin map with the gun targets:
http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2010_March/PalinTargets.jpg

Update: there are conflicting reports on whether or not she is still alive

  

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wow, i just saw her on msnbc talking about the transplant stuff
Jan 08th 2011
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What kinda shit is this??
Jan 08th 2011
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Shit like this happens all the time in other countries....
Jan 08th 2011
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      Please remove your head from your ass
Jan 08th 2011
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      im just saying
Jan 08th 2011
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      okay. let's hold ourselves to other countries standards then.
Jan 08th 2011
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and so it begins..
Jan 08th 2011
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UNCONFIRMED reports: She was shot in head
Jan 08th 2011
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oh my
Jan 08th 2011
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crazy and sad
Jan 08th 2011
5
i certainly don't wanna speculate ...however
Jan 08th 2011
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offer
Jan 08th 2011
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Just read this on npr.org ... REE COT DAYUM DICULOUS!
Jan 08th 2011
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smh@those crazy ass tea-partiers
Jan 08th 2011
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We don't know anything yet - BUT...
Jan 08th 2011
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ALSO: She was on the Palin map with the gun targets
Jan 08th 2011
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      Christ, how fucking stupid can Sarah Palin possibly be?
Jan 08th 2011
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      gtfoh. wow.
Jan 08th 2011
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      WTF? She's out of her fucking mind.
Jan 08th 2011
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      wow, if a black or brown person had this on their site
Jan 08th 2011
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      Hay-ZEUS, thats crazy
Jan 08th 2011
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      WTF???!!???!!!????
Jan 08th 2011
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      Fucking unreal.
Jan 08th 2011
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theres a witness speaking on CNN right now
Jan 08th 2011
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yeah. he's saying she got shot point blank in the head.
Jan 08th 2011
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      2 bodies lyung on the sidewalk right now
Jan 08th 2011
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this is very sad.
Jan 08th 2011
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peace to her loved ones.
Jan 08th 2011
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RE: This is horrible. Watchin CNN now
Jan 08th 2011
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grow up.....
Jan 08th 2011
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      lol.
Jan 08th 2011
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folkrs are going to need to calm down and step for a minute
Jan 08th 2011
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wat?
Jan 09th 2011
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      RE: wat?
Jan 10th 2011
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           they just let dudes like that back in the country, no questions asked?
Jan 10th 2011
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                that set of circumstances
Jan 10th 2011
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Politically...
Jan 08th 2011
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No
Jan 08th 2011
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      I disagree...
Jan 08th 2011
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           Proof is now in this thread
Jan 09th 2011
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NPR reports that she has died :( Along with 6 others
Jan 08th 2011
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wow
Jan 08th 2011
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I was down in AZ for the holiday
Jan 08th 2011
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I was in AZ too visting redneck relatives
Jan 08th 2011
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every republican in america has blood on their hands
Jan 08th 2011
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yep...exactly...
Jan 08th 2011
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You sure about that?
Jan 08th 2011
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yup. republicans had a chance to dead this rage.
Jan 08th 2011
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democrats too muthafucka
Jan 08th 2011
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dems weren't bringing guns to rally for two years
Jan 08th 2011
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not in this case
Jan 08th 2011
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Whoa, whoa, whoa... to label this as "republican" is an over-step...
Jan 08th 2011
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so then is sarah palin a radical or mainstream republican?
Jan 08th 2011
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Don't confuse "mainstream" with "highly visible"...
Jan 08th 2011
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uhm...she was a Vice Presidential candidate JUST 2 YEARS AGO.
Jan 08th 2011
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^^^end of argument
Jan 08th 2011
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      Replace "Republican" with "Muslim" in your statement...
Jan 08th 2011
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           i'm cool with that, but i think every overtly religious person
Jan 08th 2011
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           CO-SIGN
Jan 08th 2011
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           i agree with you that we don't know what happened yet, and that we
Jan 08th 2011
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                Saying Palin's views are as mainstream as Dennis Kucinich's.
Jan 08th 2011
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                     so you're saying Palin has as much clout with the Repub party as Kucinic...
Jan 08th 2011
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                     uh i don't think he's saying that.
Jan 08th 2011
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                     dennis kuchinich ever run for veep?
Jan 08th 2011
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                     uh he ran for the democratic nomination twice.
Jan 08th 2011
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                          And lost horribly in the primary both times.
Jan 08th 2011
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                          Sarah Palin was on the final ticket. big difference.
Jan 08th 2011
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                               oh snap i never knew that.
Jan 08th 2011
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                                    happy to help.
Jan 08th 2011
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                     There is a critical error in your reasoning here
Jan 08th 2011
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                     yeah Kucinich endorsed candidates really killed it this last election
Jan 08th 2011
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Republican benefited GREATLY from radical conservatism
Jan 08th 2011
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      it would be the same as if Dems wink winked at ELF
Jan 08th 2011
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yup
Jan 08th 2011
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I see that retardation is alive and well on this board.
Jan 08th 2011
175
Over the line
Jan 08th 2011
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Wow...this is terrible.
Jan 08th 2011
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*lookin dead ass at sarah palin and right-wing nutjobs.*
Jan 08th 2011
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me too.
Jan 08th 2011
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yup.
Jan 08th 2011
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CNN is now confirming that she is dead.
Jan 08th 2011
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don't retreat, just reload (C) sarah palin
Jan 08th 2011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw
Jan 08th 2011
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lol @ bristol palin just bought a house in AZ too....
Jan 08th 2011
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now they're saying that they don't know if she's dead.
Jan 08th 2011
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RIP..... ridiculous.
Jan 08th 2011
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lol@ all the mofos on twitter sayin lock palin up for inciting terrorism
Jan 08th 2011
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oh thank god she took it down before something bad happened
Jan 08th 2011
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      yeah..this should do it for her
Jan 08th 2011
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      it won't be.
Jan 08th 2011
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           yeah, she'll turn this dogpiling into gold
Jan 08th 2011
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RIP. SMH.
Jan 08th 2011
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why the hell was the local coverage station letter KGUN?
Jan 08th 2011
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My homie at CNN is looking for folks to talk to.....
Jan 08th 2011
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Americans trying to outdo Pakistanis in the same week n/m
Jan 08th 2011
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Conflicting reports that she has died
Jan 08th 2011
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This is crazy. I bet there will be copycats too
Jan 08th 2011
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One of the RARE reasonable public minds in Arizona. Taken away.
Jan 08th 2011
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*Sets DVR for Monday night's The Daily Show*
Jan 08th 2011
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ad run by gifford's november opponent
Jan 08th 2011
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what the entire fuck??
Jan 08th 2011
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      this one doesn't bother me as much
Jan 08th 2011
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           after today..it just reads a little crazy..but i get what youre sayin
Jan 08th 2011
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           this was written in june when event was announced
Jan 08th 2011
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           there's no doubt that it was a metaphor, still it was dangerously
Jan 08th 2011
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fuckin' disgusting.
Jan 08th 2011
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SMH at these comments on Palins fb page..blame Obama now??
Jan 08th 2011
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this one is awesome though
Jan 08th 2011
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They STILL trying to defend her even and blame Obama! *smh*
Jan 09th 2011
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NY Times article about her marriage to astronaut Capt. Mark Kelly
Jan 08th 2011
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a Federal Judge was among those killed, according to MSNBC
Jan 08th 2011
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^^^ this right here is even crazier
Jan 08th 2011
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Jesus Christ.
Jan 08th 2011
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haunting, poignant and ironic quote from Gabby Gifford:
Jan 08th 2011
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RE: haunting, poignant and ironic quote from Gabby Gifford:
Jan 08th 2011
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here's the video of her saying that, if anyone doubts the authenticity
Jan 08th 2011
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Reports are that she made it through surgery & is responsive...
Jan 08th 2011
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so, the surgeon is saying that he is optimistic that she will recover.
Jan 08th 2011
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doctor at the hospital just said the young child who was shot, died!
Jan 08th 2011
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i didn't hear him say that. i thought he said that he couldn't give
Jan 08th 2011
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      he said the 9 yr old child died
Jan 08th 2011
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           :-( don't say that Harmonia.
Jan 08th 2011
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as an aunt, the shooting of the 9 year old is fucking me up.
Jan 08th 2011
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These are the type of people that support Sarah Palin.
Jan 08th 2011
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disgusting, and sadly not shocking
Jan 08th 2011
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i'd love to have about 10 minutes in a room
Jan 08th 2011
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Why can't we bring these niggas up on charges?
Jan 08th 2011
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^^^
Jan 08th 2011
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Let's not forget shooting up the holocaust museum.
Jan 08th 2011
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first amendment offers VERY broad protections
Jan 08th 2011
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      I mean, damn.
Jan 08th 2011
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This is the post Expertise won't be showing up in
Jan 08th 2011
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show these balls, you sorry POS.
Jan 08th 2011
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      RE: show these balls, you sorry POS.
Jan 08th 2011
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Damn
Jan 08th 2011
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The potential fallout from this is blowing my mind right now
Jan 08th 2011
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I pray and I may have to get this message out there...
Jan 08th 2011
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i hope that that would be the case as well, and that something good
Jan 08th 2011
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shooter ID'd as Jared Laughner (2 swipes from Drudge)...possible Youtube...
Jan 08th 2011
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yeah, he crazy.
Jan 08th 2011
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He's also very clearly tea-party.
Jan 08th 2011
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      RE: He's also very clearly tea-party.
Jan 08th 2011
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      I hate that Ron Paul is lumped in with these people.
Jan 08th 2011
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      That shit seems more Alex Jones than Tea Party.
Jan 08th 2011
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      How many people in the tea party agree with flag burning? GTFOH
Jan 15th 2011
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the spelling of his name is different on the Youtube channel
Jan 08th 2011
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There seems to be some confusion over the spelling.
Jan 08th 2011
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Jesus Christ.
Jan 08th 2011
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Wow that youtube video is fascinating to me
Jan 08th 2011
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*sigh*
Jan 08th 2011
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this is why afghanistan and iraq was always bulls***
Jan 08th 2011
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EGGFUCKINGZACKLY
Jan 08th 2011
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Yeah...
Jan 08th 2011
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i'll be amazed if we get anything from Beck, etc beyond
Jan 08th 2011
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Yup, and unfortunately it'll work.
Jan 08th 2011
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      ^
Jan 08th 2011
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I look at this as chickens coming home to roost...
Jan 08th 2011
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I have a huge problem with the fingerpointing in this post
Jan 08th 2011
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THANK YOU... You can't always affix a label to crazy.
Jan 08th 2011
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you can affix a label to why we have some many guns floating around.
Jan 08th 2011
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      guns aint shoot her that man did. yall quick to blame guns like they
Jan 08th 2011
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           access to guns definitely has an effect on the crime rate..
Jan 08th 2011
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           then how do you explain away Chicago and DC
Jan 09th 2011
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           nope, the gun shot her
Jan 08th 2011
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I agree, its way too early to be making assumptions
Jan 08th 2011
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...I have a problem with blanket accusations.
Jan 08th 2011
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You're VASTLY underestimating the effect of speech on "sane" people
Jan 08th 2011
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it's not really political.
Jan 08th 2011
133
It really is political
Jan 08th 2011
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it's not political in the sense that its any party's fault...
Jan 08th 2011
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      Fair point on the first part
Jan 08th 2011
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      obviously it's political and there's definitely blame to go around here
Jan 08th 2011
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i agree with this, however...
Jan 08th 2011
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RE: Sad Times
Jan 08th 2011
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yall have got to be the sorriest pieces of shit I've ever heard of.
Jan 08th 2011
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No, you fuck off
Jan 08th 2011
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Probably because I'm not a fucking moron who thinks everyone's a reactio...
Jan 08th 2011
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      ......
Jan 08th 2011
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      ^^
Jan 08th 2011
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      I'm not sure whom I have less respect for to be honest
Jan 08th 2011
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      while you're cycling through the feminine hygiene aisle ...
Jan 08th 2011
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      Oh Really? Funny. You didn't mind that idea LAST month:
Jan 09th 2011
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           it was sarcasm pointed at you idiots.
Jan 09th 2011
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           Right.
Jan 09th 2011
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           might as well be. You're no different.
Jan 09th 2011
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           uh huh.
Jan 09th 2011
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                His job is to investigate the crime. Who GAF what he thinks.
Jan 09th 2011
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           ;-)
Jan 09th 2011
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The feeling is mutual.
Jan 08th 2011
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Oh, so it's OKAY to falsely blame people for mass murder,
Jan 08th 2011
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      We're talking on fucking okayplayer here. Nobody cares.
Jan 08th 2011
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      Is it OK to suggest that the target poster is inappropriate?
Jan 08th 2011
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      you may not do that but....
Jan 08th 2011
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the crazy environment that the Tea Party
Jan 08th 2011
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if there was nothing wrong with the Palin map, she should've left it up
Jan 08th 2011
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These same cats would flip...
Jan 08th 2011
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cuz I support many folks who post up maps of gun targets
Jan 08th 2011
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      LOL
Jan 09th 2011
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once again, this is like when they blamed Goldwater for JFK
Jan 08th 2011
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go fuck yourself Pisspertise
Jan 09th 2011
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you and your people don't get to be offended today
Jan 09th 2011
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'WHO ME'?! -- the tea party today
Jan 09th 2011
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This is some sick sad shit...People are dead...
Jan 08th 2011
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People are always dying.
Jan 08th 2011
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As much as I want republicans and tea-partiers to take the blame for thi...
Jan 08th 2011
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Dude is crazy.
Jan 08th 2011
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The dude who crashed the plane into the IRS building was crazy too.
Jan 08th 2011
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      RE: The dude who crashed the plane into the IRS building was crazy too.
Jan 08th 2011
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      agreed.
Jan 08th 2011
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      absolutely.
Jan 08th 2011
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She was the first person he shot. We have to assume that it was
Jan 09th 2011
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reports now saying the shooter was a veteran of the afghanistan war
Jan 08th 2011
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this whole situation stinks.
Jan 08th 2011
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shit, so much about us treating our soldiers for mental issues
Jan 08th 2011
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I worry so much about that. There was an okp talking about
Jan 08th 2011
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Looks like he actually just tried to enlist, but was turned down.
Jan 08th 2011
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I am incensed.
Jan 08th 2011
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keep being blind to the danger of right wing nutbags if u want
Jan 08th 2011
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so why has sarah palin's team spent the day
Jan 08th 2011
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^ because they are distancing themselves from
Jan 08th 2011
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^^^^
Jan 08th 2011
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The same reason the Daily Kos did:
Jan 09th 2011
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      Tise, some of what you say has substance, but u lose
Jan 09th 2011
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      your whole life is a joke
Jan 09th 2011
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gawker post on shooterfelon-
Jan 08th 2011
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so they trying to paint him as a liberal / leftist
Jan 09th 2011
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      sounds like started as hardcore communist
Jan 09th 2011
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im so disgusted & i hope yall tough typers are ready
Jan 08th 2011
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I just find it interesting
Jan 08th 2011
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      Gifford was also for tougher immigration laws, something most Arizonans
Jan 09th 2011
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           wrong
Jan 09th 2011
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wow. the little girl was born on 9/11/01 (swipe):
Jan 08th 2011
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shit. that's a lil' TOO much symmetry for me.
Jan 09th 2011
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oh shit, FOH!
Jan 09th 2011
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Gematria
Jan 09th 2011
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that was Dallas Green's granddaughter
Jan 09th 2011
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Olbermann (link)
Jan 08th 2011
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Have we talked about the dude's youtube pages?
Jan 09th 2011
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Surprised they haven't removed it yet!
Jan 09th 2011
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      I'm not
Jan 09th 2011
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Westboro Baptist Church To Picket Funerals Of Arizona Shooting Victims
Jan 09th 2011
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these muthafuckers lol .... always on time
Jan 09th 2011
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Real talk: Can we please get a crazy Leftist to end these fuckers?
Jan 09th 2011
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September 12th, 2009
Jan 09th 2011
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H.A.M.
Jan 09th 2011
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civics questions
Jan 10th 2011
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special election
Jan 10th 2011
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      I wonder if she will have to pick a democrat
Jan 10th 2011
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           what about the judge? I hope she pulls through completely but I'm concer...
Jan 10th 2011
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           Roll is replaced by Roslyn Silver, senior-most active judge
Jan 10th 2011
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                thanks
Jan 11th 2011
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           it said "special primary and general election"
Jan 10th 2011
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#TEAMDANIELHERNANDEZ
Jan 10th 2011
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and they just appointed the lawyer that represented McVeigh to represent...
Jan 10th 2011
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I can respect that dude...but his life fucking sucks
Jan 10th 2011
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J_Stew
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1. "wow, i just saw her on msnbc talking about the transplant stuff"
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i guess a decent person has no business being involved in arizona politics

  

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2. "What kinda shit is this??"
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wtf is the world coming to??

prayers to her and the others injured in this senseless crime.

"Holier than thou never sits well with me."(c)janey

"OKP spends way too much time looking for ways to be offended." ~legsdiamond


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15. "Shit like this happens all the time in other countries...."
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now it happens here and you want to know what the world is coming to....i get it this is not suppose to happen here....fuck you

the world is a toll-free toilet-george clinton

  

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30. "Please remove your head from your ass"
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I'm very aware that it happens EVERYWHERE...and I ask the same question when I HEAR about it...wtf is the world coming to?

I bet you thought you were going to make me feel ashamed of myself for not being aware of what's going on in the world...aww what an epic fail.

"Holier than thou never sits well with me."(c)janey

"OKP spends way too much time looking for ways to be offended." ~legsdiamond


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36. "im just saying"
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can care less how you feel...i thought that was a dumb statement thats all....damn...

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142. "okay. let's hold ourselves to other countries standards then."
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wtf.

  

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3. "and so it begins.."
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4. "UNCONFIRMED reports: She was shot in head"
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Still no "official" or reliable source yet.

  

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9. "oh my"
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5. "crazy and sad"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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6. "i certainly don't wanna speculate ...however"
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some of the language and code words being used in todays politics..
and the way simpel shit gets over dramatized

could set an "off" person off


<--------- the champ is here!

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22. "offer"
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7. "Just read this on npr.org ... REE COT DAYUM DICULOUS!"
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Absolutely inexcusable and unconscionable! At least five other people, including members of her staff, were hurt.

Prayers and well wishes to her, her staff, 'others' and their families.

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8. "smh@those crazy ass tea-partiers"
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10. "We don't know anything yet - BUT..."
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She was holding a Town Hall meeting at a Safeway in July of 2009 and someone's gun fell out of their holster and onto the ground.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/about-that-dropped-gun-in-arizona.php

  

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14. "ALSO: She was on the Palin map with the gun targets"
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http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2010_March/PalinTargets.jpg

BUT - It could be the New Black Panther Party behind this - we still don't know anything yet.

  

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16. "Christ, how fucking stupid can Sarah Palin possibly be?"
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19. "gtfoh. wow."
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21. "WTF? She's out of her fucking mind."
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23. "wow, if a black or brown person had this on their site"
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we know what it would be called

  

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25. "Hay-ZEUS, thats crazy"
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This needs more attention from the national media. The bullshit propaganda and bullying tactics from The Right/Tea Party needs to be exposed for what it really is. Fake threats of violence from their leadership may lead, however unintentional, to ACTUAL violence from some of their more fervent(read: psycho) members.

  

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26. "WTF???!!???!!!????"
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11. "theres a witness speaking on CNN right now"
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12. "yeah. he's saying she got shot point blank in the head."
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13. "2 bodies lyung on the sidewalk right now"
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17. "this is very sad."
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51. "peace to her loved ones."
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18. "RE: This is horrible. Watchin CNN now"
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I am trying to think through what could make someone do this....like what law or political stance or point of view warrants being shot, point blank, in the head.

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20. "grow up....."
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24. "lol."
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27. "folkrs are going to need to calm down and step for a minute"
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Before we start playing the blame game.

"Much of the country had already decided it was . The Voice of America's bulletin announcing the shooting had described Dallas as "the center of the extreme right wing." Clips of Adlai Stevenson being jabbed with anti-United Nations picket signs a month ealier were shown again and again on TV. Under the headline "DALLAS, LONG A RADICAL'S HAVEN," the Herald Tribune pointed out, "Texas is one of the few states that has a Senator ranking with Arizona's Barry Goldwater in conservatism"--that was John Tower, who, in the wake of the assassination, had to put up his family in a hotel because of the threats against them. Senator Maurine Neuberger of Oregon fixed her gaze at the television cameras and pinned the responsibility on H.L. Hunt. Walter Cronkite, on the air nonstop, was handed a slip of paper amid the chaos of CBS's studios and read aloud that Goldwater's reaction to the news while hustling to a political function had been a curt "No comment."...

A deranged gunman pumped two shots through the window of a John Birch Society office in Phoenix, crying "You killed my man!" In man-in-the-street interviews, a lawyer told the New York Times, "We have allowed certain factions to work up such a furor in the South with fanatic criticism of the office of President that a demented person can feel confident that such atrocious action is justifiable," and a Russian immigrant said, "I'm angry at these gruops who call themselves Americans and don't know the meaning--the Birchers, General Walker. Is this what they wanted?" - from Rick Perstein's "Before the Storm", chronicling the presidential candidacy of Barry Goldwater.

In the end, it turned out Lee Harvey Oswald was a Soviet defector.

All I'm saying is, all the demagoguery and rhetoric might point to a certain group of individuals, but please let's wait until more information comes in before start pointing fingers.

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226. "wat?"
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>In the end, it turned out Lee Harvey Oswald was a Soviet
>defector.
>

evidence?

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250. "RE: wat?"
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this is common knowledge

He tried to turn his US passport in several times. He went to the USSR, married Marina, tried to renounce his US citizenship, and then later returned to the US.

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251. "they just let dudes like that back in the country, no questions asked?"
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wow

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253. "that set of circumstances"
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plus the fact that *after* he tried to defect, *after* he had tried to sell military secrets (he had none) to the Soviets, on his return to the US with a Soviet wife at the height of the Cold War, he was given a high level security clearance, has added much fuel to the conspiracy theory fire.

LOL, in fact, at the time that Oliver Stone's movie JFK came out, one of my law professors, who had been on the Warren Commission, was infuriated by all the new buzz around the idea that perhaps it wasn't a lone gunman and gave a talk for anyone in the law school who wanted to attend, saying that he would debunk anything in the movie + take questions. He had his talking points and I listened to all of them, and I noticed he hadn't addressed that issue. So when he took questions, that was the question I asked: How did Oswald get a security clearance when he got back from Russia, after all he had done?

He didn't have an answer. He *said* he didn't know anything about it. I was like, dude, come on. That didn't have the ring of authority.

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28. "Politically..."
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this is a great opportunity for Obama and his team... right???


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33. "No"
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>this is a great opportunity for Obama and his team...
>right???

It's not going to change anyones mind in Arizona if it;'s a tea-partier/militia -man/border-fence/homphobe-in-military/gun-nut/etc. They 'll rationalize their way out of it.

Now - if it's a illegal alien that did it - or a black man - it will dramatically shift the south and midwest to even crazier positions.

  

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44. "I disagree..."
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Folks are emotional creatures, they can milk the tragedy out of this any way they can.


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237. "Proof is now in this thread"
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CRichasshole and non-EXPERTise both show exactly how the right will react.

Add What Lamar Alexander, Rebecca Mansour, and The Tuscon Teaparty have said today and you'll see that the right, the crazies, and the just plain stupid (Expertise is all three) will find a way to blame someone else for everything.

Nothing significant will change on the right.

These people believe that moderate insurance reform (OBAMACARE) will ACTUALLY destroy the United States. No metaphors - they mean ACTUAL destruction.

They are INSANE. INSANE.

  

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29. "NPR reports that she has died :( Along with 6 others"
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http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman
by NPR STAFF
Drew Angerer/AP Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
January 8, 2011 text size A A A
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and six others died after a gunman opened fire at a public event on Saturday, the Pima County, Ariz., sheriff's office confirms.
The 40-year-old Democrat, who was re-elected to her third term in November, was hosting a "Congress on Your Corner" event at a Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media.
At least three other people, including members of her staff, were injured. Giffords was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Her condition was not immediately known.
Giffords was talking to a couple when the suspect ran up and fired indiscriminately from about four feet away, Michaels said.
The suspect ran off and was tackled by a bystander. He was taken into custody. Witnesses described him as in his late teens or early 20s.
Giffords was first elected to represent Arizona's 8th District in 2006. The "Congress on Your Corner" events allow constituents to present their concerns directly to her.
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32. "wow"
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>Witnesses described him as in his late
>teens or early 20s.

  

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31. "I was down in AZ for the holiday "
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and those rednecks have signs posted outside certain restaurants "No guns allowed" lol

  

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35. "I was in AZ too visting redneck relatives"
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I swear he had 8 hours of Glenn beck on the DVR. And he recorded the HD stream of it. If you can't spot crazy eyes in HD then you never will.

  

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34. "every republican in america has blood on their hands"
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every. single. one.

fuck y'all. seriously.

you spit all that coded rhetoric about obama. you never called limbaugh, beck, hannity on all their bullshit while they incited a fucking riot. and you voted for people and watched a news station that encouraged all this shit.

you are complicit.

six people are dead because of the atmosphere you created.

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38. "yep...exactly..."
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39. "You sure about that?"
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49. "yup. republicans had a chance to dead this rage."
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their leaders could have taken a stand against the lunatic fringe, like mccain did when he told that old bitch that barack was not a muslim.

instead, they gleefully exploited the rage and sucked limbaugh's dick, ensuring the dialogue turned even darker and violent.

the shooter could be an alien. republicans still created the environment in which an alien felt comfortable shooting a US fucking congressman.

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40. "democrats too muthafucka"
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dont get caught up in the bullshit

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42. "dems weren't bringing guns to rally for two years"
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or screaming "hell no" and calling the president a liar on the floor of the senate.

the climate of the last two years is the result of a conspiracy among republican elites to exploit and reward grass roots anger. democrats have had absolutely zero to do with it, unless you think trying to solve problems while controlling both houses of congress and the presidency is a crime.

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45. "not in this case"
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any time liberals do anything conservatives don't like they are vilified as unpatriotic and unamerican, yet conservatives spew some of the most hateful rhetoric and are allowed to do so under the guise of family values(ie xenophobia) and patriotism(ie it's ok to hate people from other countries)

  

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52. "Whoa, whoa, whoa... to label this as "republican" is an over-step..."
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If this is political, it's more about radical conservatism.

Saying that "All Republicans have blood on their hands..." is no better than saying that "All Muslims are terrorists"

People, let's all be proper with the rhetoric, aiight?


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54. "so then is sarah palin a radical or mainstream republican?"
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56. "Don't confuse "mainstream" with "highly visible"... "
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Sarah Palin is extreme in a lot of her views, but you don't see her kickin' it on Capitol Hill with John Boehner and Mitch McConnell.

Please, be cool with all that kinda talk.


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62. "uhm...she was a Vice Presidential candidate JUST 2 YEARS AGO. "
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she has a platform on a mainstream conservative media outlet...

and her public events sell out to rank-and-file republicans.

I don't know how much more mainstream you can get than that.

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57. "^^^end of argument"
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we can go down the list of people who sucked rush limbaugh's dick over the last two years and didn't fight back against his rhetoric.

oh, and all the fuckers who stoked the fires of those bullshit town meetings over health care.

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66. "Replace "Republican" with "Muslim" in your statement... "
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And see how that looks.


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69. "i'm cool with that, but i think every overtly religious person"
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80. "CO-SIGN"
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Get Out the Room
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70. "i agree with you that we don't know what happened yet, and that we "
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can't paint everyone with a broadbrush.

we don't know what the 21 year old who did this was thinking when he pulled the trigger repeatedly.

but you also can't deny that the destructive rhetoric that MAINSTREAM republicans--yes like Sarah Palin--have been spouting for the past several years has fanned the fire.

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74. "Saying Palin's views are as mainstream as Dennis Kucinich's. "
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75. "so you're saying Palin has as much clout with the Repub party as Kucinic..."
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has with the Dem party? is that what you're saying?

let me know if that's what you're saying.

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153. "uh i don't think he's saying that."
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76. "dennis kuchinich ever run for veep?"
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or get voted to statewide office?

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143. "uh he ran for the democratic nomination twice."
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144. "And lost horribly in the primary both times."
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Whereas Palin didn't even have to run in the primary (or even ever run for any statewide office) before being catapulted to the final ticket.

  

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145. "Sarah Palin was on the final ticket. big difference."
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155. "oh snap i never knew that."
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166. "happy to help."
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83. "There is a critical error in your reasoning here"
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you are looking at Sarah Palin's VIEWPOINTS and (correctly) saying that she is outside of the mainstream of the republican party.

However, Sarah Palin's INFLUENCE is a HUGE part of the mainstream republican party. If it weren't, they wouldn't control the house right now.

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113. "yeah Kucinich endorsed candidates really killed it this last election"
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58. "Republican benefited GREATLY from radical conservatism"
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And there are plenty of examples of Repubs showing some concern
Then changing their stance to conform with the party line

Not speaking against what they KNOW is wrong and possibly dangerous
For the sake of political gain
Is clearly an untenable ethical position.

Any Republican, for instance, who says publicly that Palin would make a good president is culpable.

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59. "it would be the same as if Dems wink winked at ELF"
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and ELF worked on all of their campaigns.

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87. "yup"
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it sounds sick but I'm surprised it took this long.

white people is crazy.

  

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175. "I see that retardation is alive and well on this board."
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Since 1976

Bow to the awesomeness of Avery*Sunshine:
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202. "Over the line"
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And I hate the right wing's rhetoric as much as anyone. But your statement above is also inflammatory. We can do better than that.

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37. "Wow...this is terrible."
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it takes a muscle.

  

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41. "*lookin dead ass at sarah palin and right-wing nutjobs.*"
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47. "me too."
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65. "yup."
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43. "CNN is now confirming that she is dead."
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46. "don't retreat, just reload (C) sarah palin"
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smh.
disgusting.

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48. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
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50. "lol @ bristol palin just bought a house in AZ too...."
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53. "now they're saying that they don't know if she's dead."
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55. "RIP..... ridiculous. "
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60. "lol@ all the mofos on twitter sayin lock palin up for inciting terrorism"
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and she took that graphic of the map off her site right quick btw..

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61. "oh thank god she took it down before something bad happened"
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she shouldn't be arrested, but this is and should be the end of her.

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64. "yeah..this should do it for her"
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67. "it won't be."
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190. "yeah, she'll turn this dogpiling into gold"
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she always does

  

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63. "RIP. SMH."
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68. "why the hell was the local coverage station letter KGUN?"
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gawtdamn.

  

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71. "My homie at CNN is looking for folks to talk to....."
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If any of you have friends or family in Law Enforcement, EMS, or Politics in Tuscon, AZ.

Let him know on twitter @cnncbell

This is so sad.

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it's doing something arduous and
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72. "Americans trying to outdo Pakistanis in the same week n/m"
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73. "Conflicting reports that she has died"
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CNN has retracted their statement. It seems she's now in surgery.

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77. "This is crazy. I bet there will be copycats too"
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The shooter was caught and I hope he talks just to clarify why he did this shyte.
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78. "One of the RARE reasonable public minds in Arizona. Taken away."
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Wtf, is there any semblance of sanity left in that gotdamn state? God bless her family, friends, and staff, man.

  

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81. "*Sets DVR for Monday night's The Daily Show*"
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*Jews you*

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82. "ad run by gifford's november opponent"
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http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1294/aakelly048c.png

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86. "what the entire fuck??"
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90. "this one doesn't bother me as much"
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I was just talking about this on AIM w/ bshelly, and my general opinion re: this ad is that it's more of a "yall like to shoot guns. we have a really cool gun that you can get to shoot if you come to this rally and listen to some speeches by Jesse Kelly."

it's an event that involves letting people shoot a cool gun, so it stands to reason that the people marketing it would give it a title with a pun like "Get on target for victory"

also, it's arizona, i think that they probably have always had campaign events where people got to shoot guns

the Palin thing is 10,000 times worse

*Jews you*

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91. "after today..it just reads a little crazy..but i get what youre sayin"
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94. "this was written in june when event was announced"
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http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2010/06/jesse-kelly-event-is-this-wording-intentional.html

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95. "there's no doubt that it was a metaphor, still it was dangerously"
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irresponsible wording.

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84. "fuckin' disgusting. "
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85. "SMH at these comments on Palins fb page..blame Obama now??"
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http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=485459383434&comments

Dolores Sloggy Unforunately this happened...Obama is to blame. He started this entire mess we are in. No one else!
3 minutes ago ·

dumb bitch

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88. "this one is awesome though"
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Angelia Johnson White I hope you get trampled by moose, you useless redneck cunt.
about a minute ago ·

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235. "They STILL trying to defend her even and blame Obama! *smh*"
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89. "NY Times article about her marriage to astronaut Capt. Mark Kelly"
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He's on his way from Houston to be by her side

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/fashion/weddings/02vows.html?_r=1

  

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92. "a Federal Judge was among those killed, according to MSNBC"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

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96. "^^^ this right here is even crazier"
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The whole thing is crazy but we killin fed judges?!

*edit* apparently they got the shooter

  

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179. "Jesus Christ."
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93. "haunting, poignant and ironic quote from Gabby Gifford:"
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“We need to realize that the rhetoric, and the firing people up and … for example, we’re on Sarah Palin’s ‘targeted’ list, but the thing is, the way she has it depicted, we’re in the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they’ve gotta realize that there are consequences to that action.”

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98. "RE: haunting, poignant and ironic quote from Gabby Gifford:"
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The full interview the quote was drawn from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36033690#36033690

  

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104. "here's the video of her saying that, if anyone doubts the authenticity"
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36033690#36033690

EDIT: oops, posted above. still the entire interview is worth watching. just incredibly prescient, although it wasn't hard to read the writing on the wall.

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97. "Reports are that she made it through surgery & is responsive..."
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http://twitter.com/#!/brianstelter/status/23840849271980032

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99. "so, the surgeon is saying that he is optimistic that she will recover."
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100. "doctor at the hospital just said the young child who was shot, died!"
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This is so sad

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102. "i didn't hear him say that. i thought he said that he couldn't give"
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details over the specific conditions of any patient other than Gabrielle.

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103. "he said the 9 yr old child died"
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He originally said one victim at the hospital died. A follow up question confirmed that it was the child.

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108. ":-( don't say that Harmonia."
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that makes me sad :'-(

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101. "as an aunt, the shooting of the 9 year old is fucking me up."
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105. "These are the type of people that support Sarah Palin."
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138. "disgusting, and sadly not shocking"
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161. "i'd love to have about 10 minutes in a room"
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with that dude, no baseball bat-o

  

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106. "Why can't we bring these niggas up on charges?"
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How is this any different from Rwanda and the cock roaches?

I'm so sick of this shit.

They fly planes into buildings to protest taxes, they kill abortion doctors and there is no fucking justice?

I'm not talking about the people, I'm talking about these RADIO and CABLE nutjobs.

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109. "^^^"
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112. "Let's not forget shooting up the holocaust museum."
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140. "first amendment offers VERY broad protections"
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especially as it pertains to broadcasters and journalists.

  

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201. "I mean, damn."
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107. "This is the post Expertise won't be showing up in "
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156. "show these balls, you sorry POS."
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198. "RE: show these balls, you sorry POS."
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110. "Damn"
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Sarah Palin should just hang it up. Ignorant ( uneducated) people ALWAYS take what assholes ( and her ilk) say seriously. I would sue her ass if my family member was injured in that incident. It is not about money, but holding that bitch responsible for what she did.

  

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111. "The potential fallout from this is blowing my mind right now"
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I don't pray but if I did I'd

PRAY that Giffords lives and goes ABSOLUTELY HAMMER on Palin & the Tea Party
PRAY that the shooter uses the rhetoric of Rush & Co as a partial defense in court.

I'm hoping the REAL crazies will expose themselves by talking around the tragedy of this situation
And the would-be moderates caught up in the rhetoric take a long hard look at the movement.

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114. "I pray and I may have to get this message out there..."
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>PRAY that Giffords lives and goes ABSOLUTELY HAMMER on Palin &
>the Tea Party
>PRAY that the shooter uses the rhetoric of Rush & Co as a
>partial defense in court.
>
>I'm hoping the REAL crazies will expose themselves by talking
>around the tragedy of this situation
>And the would-be moderates caught up in the rhetoric take a
>long hard look at the movement.
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115. "i hope that that would be the case as well, and that something good"
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will come of this...

but I have a feeling that it won't.

this has been coming for a while now, and everyone saw the signs and let it happen.

so, i don't have much confidence that now those culpable will see the err of their ways nor that those who should hold them accountable will do so in any measurable way.

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116. "shooter ID'd as Jared Laughner (2 swipes from Drudge)...possible Youtube..."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/08/AR2011010802631.html

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4

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118. "yeah, he crazy."
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>http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4

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121. "He's also very clearly tea-party."
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In particular, the references to gold and silver seem to align him with the Ron Paul contingent.

EDIT: upon watching the rest of the videos, it's starting to seem unfair to lump this fella in with any particular political movement. The kid is a crackpot of the standard variety. He's in his own crazy world. That world might have been influenced by outside politics (all the references to the constitution certainly imply some such influence), but this kid owned his own crazy. We'll have to wait and see what else might have influenced it.

  

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130. "RE: He's also very clearly tea-party."
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>In particular, the references to gold and silver seem to align
>him with the Ron Paul contingent.
>


Really?? I dunno...I'm not seeing that. I'm just seeing some bat-shit crazy dude.

I mean this guy just started open firing on the crowd. He shot a 9-year old in the head. That's not the act of making a stand for something political, that's the act of a psychopath.

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134. "I hate that Ron Paul is lumped in with these people."
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I mean, he's not them.

Small government, yes. But hateful?

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139. "That shit seems more Alex Jones than Tea Party. "
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255. "How many people in the tea party agree with flag burning? GTFOH"
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How many people in the tea party list Mein Kempf and the Communist Manifesto in their favorite books..

This guy is not simply anti-government (meaning he believes the government is too big and needs to stop spending and shrink) he's anti-american..


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122. "the spelling of his name is different on the Youtube channel"
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*Jews you*

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124. "There seems to be some confusion over the spelling."
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The Washington Post story has been corrected to spell the name in a way that matches the youtube spelling.

  

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125. "Jesus Christ."
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The "I had favorite books" creeped me out almost as much as the creepy videos.

More Christmas movies coming in 2025...

  

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136. "Wow that youtube video is fascinating to me"
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Like - could he be schizophrenic?
Is it a diary?
Is he referencing actual events, and if so, over what time period?
Why the modus ponens form?

It's so cleanly produced and artsy too.
Just doesn't fit my mind's model of the shooter at all.

Fucking weird.

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117. "*sigh*"
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119. "this is why afghanistan and iraq was always bulls***"
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all any terrorist has to do is buy an automatic weapon at a gun show, walk into a mall on black friday, and they could take out a hundred people before they're brought down. the 19 9/11 terrorists could have done that in different cities and taken out a thousand people with very little training or coordination necessary. and we can thank all these lazy gun laws that a certain party has been fighting tooth and nail for for decades.

there's this illusion of security in america, partially created by how hard our troops are going and how much they're sacrificing overseas. but obviously that's not the case. as easy as it is to walk into a crowded non-secure area or meet a congressman face to face, every man, woman, and child in america pretty much has the power to burn the house down. no need to fight "them" over there, when we got so many of us over here.

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127. "EGGFUCKINGZACKLY"
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>all any terrorist has to do is buy an automatic weapon at a
>gun show, walk into a mall on black friday, and they could
>take out a hundred people before they're brought down. the 19
>9/11 terrorists could have done that in different cities and
>taken out a thousand people with very little training or
>coordination necessary. and we can thank all these lazy gun
>laws that a certain party has been fighting tooth and nail for
>for decades.

the bottom line here is that you never know what anyone is going to do at any given time. whether with a gun or a crude homemade bomb or whatever, if someone WANTS to kill a whole bunch of people badly enough, they are going to do it. it's not body scans, patdowns, cavity searches and intelligence that prevents terrorism, it's general decency, humanity, good will and other shit that 99.99999999999999% of people have. if we didn't neglect certain major things--infrastructure of developing nations, mental health here at home, etc--that number would jump to 100%. the anti-zealot zealots hang their hat on these illusory notions of "evil" and 11th-hour preventability that are simply not real.


>there's this illusion of security in america, partially
>created by how hard our troops are going and how much they're
>sacrificing overseas. but obviously that's not the case. as
>easy as it is to walk into a crowded non-secure area or meet a
>congressman face to face, every man, woman, and child in
>america pretty much has the power to burn the house down. no
>need to fight "them" over there, when we got so many of us
>over here.

which is why the real issues--which are currently left some b.s. pseudo-scientific industrial complex--are what we need to address. more satisfying work, more sex, better diet, better general mental/physical health. no one who feels OK and knows love is a terrorist or a murderer. they are the isolated, the forgotten, the neglected, the unloved, the un-living outliers who can really build these plans unchecked. it's not about identifying them and throwing them in a cell for some thought crimes, it's about building a foundation in EVERYONE that would not let them get halfway to going through with some shit like this.

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120. "Yeah..."
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Those chickens are home, aint they? Credit Palin and her nut job Right contingent...No excuses...No one is saying ol girl pulled the trigger...But she and her crew certainly fanned the flames...

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123. "i'll be amazed if we get anything from Beck, etc beyond"
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some shit like "sure its tragic, blah blah, but the liberals are now gonna use this to push their agenda, rah rah rah"

i'll be shocked if it's not that

  

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126. "Yup, and unfortunately it'll work."
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Just like it's worked multiple times already in the last couple of years.

  

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128. "I look at this as chickens coming home to roost..."
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... and am actually ashamed to be a moderate Republican right now.

THIS is what happens when you constantly make radical highly charged comparisons about Democrats to your base Glenn Beck.

THIS is what happens when you take advantage of the economic crisis to boost ratings by constantly riling up an already fractured cross section of people Fox News.

THIS is what happens when failed Alaskan-governor-turned-reality-star talks out her ass and incites the masses to violence by merely insinuating that people should take arms against democratic senators Sarah Palin.

I can't wait til these Tea Party douchebags face the music. I cannot wait for that to happen.

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131. "I have a huge problem with the fingerpointing in this post"
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My basic disagreement with y'all is the premise, "such and such non-violent but divisive political action is partially responsible" because in the mind of a predisposed lunatic, it can steer them toward democrats/republicans/whoever is the other side.

To which I say, what about that statement itself? You just claimed that the (in this case) republicans have microns or some quantity of blood on their hands, didn't you? What about the crazies reading that statement? Did you not just provide the same ammunition?

Crazy people react and I think it is in the vast majority of cases foolish to try to in hindsight parse speech that is benign it its effects on sane people after a tragedy like this.

  

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132. "THANK YOU... You can't always affix a label to crazy. "
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135. "you can affix a label to why we have some many guns floating around."
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and you know it's not liberal democrats.

  

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147. "guns aint shoot her that man did. yall quick to blame guns like they"
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sentient.

  

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152. "access to guns definitely has an effect on the crime rate.."
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sorry its not coincidental that nyc has some of the strictest gun laws and is the safest big city in the country.

  

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210. "then how do you explain away Chicago and DC"
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where it took SCOTUS decisions to strike down their gun laws.

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163. "nope, the gun shot her"
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and 12 other people and killed a kid. the gun that it's legal to carry concealed in arizona, legal to own, and laughably easy to obtain, all thanks to the hard work of arizona lawmakers. i hate that "guns don't kill people" NRA right-wing garbage. if you're gonna put out arguments like "but if everyone's carrying a gun, then any bystander can stop a tragedy like this," at least take some responsibility for the other 99% of the time when it doesn't work out like that.

you can't absolve the gun from blame in these situations 'cause nobody's gonna be able to critically wound 12 people with a knife or a baseball bat, no matter how crazy they are. and last time i checked, people don't have bullets coming out their fingers. nope, the gun did it.

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137. "I agree, its way too early to be making assumptions"
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We can't label this guy a tea partier when we barely know this guy's name. We don't know anything about him yet, we don't know if this guy was slightly unhinged or psychotic. Overreacting is not doing a damn bit of good this early in the game.

Political officials getting killed, is rare but hardly unprecedented. 4 presidents have been killed, many more attempts, several congressman have been killed, many mayors have been killed. This is not the end of the republic.

  

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141. "...I have a problem with blanket accusations. "
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But the niggas that fuel that shit? Not even the Becks, but the CRAZY niggas on the radio ?

Fuck.

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150. "You're VASTLY underestimating the effect of speech on "sane" people"
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There are experiments indicating that you can form opinion in people simply by
REPEATING your own.
http://www.physorg.com/news119201971.html

Meaning the simple repitition of the idea that Obama is untrustworthy can
effectively form the opinion of someone who had no opinion to begin with,
without even the need for a convincing argument. See especially this quote from
the link above:

   "People often rely on social consensus as a cue in assessing truth. If many
    believe it, then there is probably something to it," said Garcia, who also is
    an assistant professor of public policy. "Because fluent processing of a
    statement gives rise to a sense of familiarity, it suggests that one must
    have heard something similar before, which increases acceptance of the
   statement."

Legally, I'm not sure it would be impossible to show that the willful repetition
of intentionally violent metaphors in your political messaging might lead or
contribute to actual violence.

The argument is really whether or not this incident is evidence for the
assertion that Palin's poster is dangerous. Based on the research I outlined
above, I'm not sure you should be so quick to discount that possibility.

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133. "it's not really political. "
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guy probably would have snapped and killed someone for some other reason if not this. it's a problem of too many guns and too much mental illness in this country. a kid shot up a school and killed someone here this week. barely made national news. welcome to the new normal people.

  

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149. "It really is political"
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You don't walk up a to a congressperson at a congressional event, put a gun to their head and pull the trigger, kill a judge, and then starting shooting random people if it's not political. It's political, plain and simple, and an indication of where things are.

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158. "it's not political in the sense that its any party's fault..."
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...its got a whole lot more to do with mental illness than politics.

  

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162. "Fair point on the first part"
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Meh. I can't get into this conversation today, this shit is just sad and so unnecessary.

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171. "obviously it's political and there's definitely blame to go around here"
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he didn't just walk up to any safeway and shoot 12 people. he walked up to a safeway where a congresswoman was holding an event, shot her first, then a federal judge, then anyone else who happened to be nearby. maybe dude is stark-raving insane, maybe he thinks there's robot bugs crawling under his skin, but regardless, this was political.

and while blame does need to be doled out carefully, there is very clearly one political party in america that's been actively fueling paranoia about illegitimate presidents, death panels, tyranny, nazis, government takeover of twinkies, etc. they've been sending a very clear message since 2008, one that a LOT of people have been saying is gonna set off some crazy person. surprise.

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164. "i agree with this, however..."
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for this very reason, it is that much more important for politicians on both sides to be mindful of how their rhetoric may incite gun toting crazies.

it's one thing to inspire people by saying "It's the Economy, Stupid!" or "Country First" or "Let's Make America Great Again"; but it's something else to be using ads with cross-hairs and stoking people to "Don't Retreat,Reload".

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146. "RE: Sad Times"
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148. "yall have got to be the sorriest pieces of shit I've ever heard of."
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excluding the ones that actually had the decency to say "hold up; stop fingerpointing" of course.

But the rest of you pieces of shit? Fuck off.
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157. "No, you fuck off"
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How can you sit here and ignore the fact that rhetoric spewed by bigoted radio hosts and seemingly sponsored by fox news, Sarah Palin and other radical right wing nut jobs played no part in this?

The real nut jobs are you tea party morons.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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167. "Probably because I'm not a fucking moron who thinks everyone's a reactio..."
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Yeah; I actually believe there are people out there that can indeed listen or read political discourse and NOT go out and fucking spray a crowd with gunfire. And if it does happen, I'm NOT going to try to blame other people for the actions of one nut.

That's the difference between me and you: I have some fucking common sense. You stuttering retards don't.

And by the way: the killer, by most of the information about him available, was an anarcho-communist that read Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto. He also favorited a video of someone burning the American Flag, talked about how cops were illegally doing their duties, and how the SWAT teams were paying for their equipment with illegal currency.

Yeah; that sure sounds like a Tea Partier to me.

But of course, you morons don't even have the decency to even let Giffords get to the hospital before you start yelling about Tea Parties and Sarah Palin trying to have people murdered.

You fools are the worst kind of idiots.
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173. "......"
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Yeah; I actually believe there are people out there that can indeed listen or read political discourse and NOT go out and fucking spray a crowd with gunfire. And if it does happen, I'm NOT going to try to blame other people for the actions of one nut.
That's the difference between me and you: I have some fucking common sense. You stuttering retards don't.

You might have common sense but the rest your fellow tea party members don't. I'm willing to bet that in the coming months and days we will discover rhetoric that comes directly from those sources I listed.


And by the way: the killer, by most of the information about him available, was an anarcho-communist that read Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto. He also favorited a video of someone burning the American Flag, talked about how cops were illegally doing their duties, and how the SWAT teams were paying for their equipment with illegal currency.
Yeah; that sure sounds like a Tea Partier to me.

That's just info available now. The coming months and days could reveal the Sarah Palin hit list and other propaganda used by tea party radical conservatives.


But of course, you morons don't even have the decency to even let Giffords get to the hospital before you start yelling about Tea Parties and Sarah Palin trying to have people murdered.

You fools are the worst kind of idiots.

The worst kind of idiots are the people who use time tested strategies of fear, race mongering and hatred to incite the masses for political gain. Congratulations, you and the other fear mongering talking point spewing douchebags finally got what they wanted.

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188. "^^"
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all this shit is reactionary and dumb imo

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191. "I'm not sure whom I have less respect for to be honest"
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The people who actually do this type of horrific shit or the people who advocate it for personal gain.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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206. "while you're cycling through the feminine hygiene aisle ..."
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i didn't make any comments about the political orientation of the guy but i will say it was not that much of a reach to consider him part of a movement that has harassed this representative and vandalized her office or one that has suggested "arming heavily" and "Second Amendment remedies."

further, whether the nut was a right nut or a left nut, he's still a nut and this reflects poorly on all nuts. the political "spectrum" is less a spectrum than a globe, with the far east and far west being very close to one another, not very far. hence the clusterfuck that is the libertarian party and contemporary anarchism as well (which seems to have sort of blended into libertarianism in weird ways).

i guess the long-winded point i am making here is that your boys (and girls) are not off the hook for so many things they have said. they are still wrong, they are still intolerant, they are still hateful, they are still dangerous. they should not be silenced by edict, rather pushed back by the vigilance of the thoughtful public (perhaps an oxymoron but i'll stick with it).

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214. "Oh Really? Funny. You didn't mind that idea LAST month:"
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These Gold talking points? That's right out of Beck's and a few other's pitch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlworUA84k4


http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=9994033&mesg_id=9994033&listing_type=search#9997680

121. "So can we blame Media Matters for this?"
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fl-school-board-shooter-posted-suicide-note-railing-against-the-rich-linking-to-media-matters/

Clay Duke, the man who opened fire on a Florida school board Tuesday, posted a “last testament” on Facebook decrying the wealthy and linking to a slew of progressive sites including theprogressivemind.info and MediaMatters.org.

The chilling Facebook statement, posted under the “About Clay” section, talks about being born poor and how the rich “take turns fleecing us”:

My Testament: Some people (the government sponsored media) will say I was evil, a monster (V)… no… I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95% of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats… same-same… rich… they take turns fleecing us… our few dollars… pyramiding the wealth for themselves. The 95%… the us, in US of A, are the neo slaves of the Global South. Our Masters, the Wealthy, do, as they like to us…
In addition to the note, Duke also includes a reference to class warfare:

“There’s class warfare, all right, but its my class, the rich class that’s making war and we’re winning”
- Warren Buffet
And then issues a call to rise up, which seems to be from a poem titled “The Mask of Anarchy”:

Rise like lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number.
Shake your chains to earth like dew.
Which in sleep has fallen on you.
Ye are many – they are few.
Besides the writings, Duke also includes an exhaustive list of links under the quote “You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!” The page includes a link dedicated to Wikileaks, another to a progressive 9/11 truther site, and even Media Matters:

http://metanoia-films.org/index.php
http://www.theprogressivemind.info/
http://www.axisoflogic.com/
http://carolynbaker.net/
http://www.accountabilitycircle.org/
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com
http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml
http://mediamatters.org/
http://www.medialens.org/
http://redpill8.blogspot.com/
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Disinfopedia
http://www.stoplying.ca/
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/
http://luvsite.org/natsec.html
http://www.wearechange.org/
http://wikileaks.indymedia.org/mirrors.html
The first link (metanoia-film) is to an independent film site, which includes a trailer for a movie called “Human Resources”:

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216. "it was sarcasm pointed at you idiots."
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I wasn't running around yelling "They got blood on their hands!!"

And it also brings up a very good point: there's been more instances of violence as of late coming from leftists than from conservatives, yet everytime something goes down, yall want to scream "TEA PARTY!!!" Take a look in the mirror.
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218. "Right."
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I aint anybody's leftist either.

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219. "might as well be. You're no different."
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220. "uh huh."
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btw, the sheriff of Pima County seems to agree that political rhetoric has some role in this tragedy:

“Let me say one thing, because people tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol that we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that,” the sheriff said during a press conference. “That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47293.html#ixzz1AXYN4dZx

  

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222. "His job is to investigate the crime. Who GAF what he thinks."
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He nor anyone else knows what forced this guy to do what he did, and he's only going on pure speculation.
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217. ";-)"
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160. "The feeling is mutual."
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Sarah Palin didn't get shot. At worst, she's been falsely accused of inciting violence. But if this guy was acting on tea-party motivations (and even very crazy people are influenced by political motivations), then Gabrielle Giffords and the unfortunate people near her were shot and in some cases murdered as a result of the political atmosphere your party has engendered.

  

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168. "Oh, so it's OKAY to falsely blame people for mass murder,"
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Maybe on the next one I'll blame the leftist politicians in the inner cities of creating an atmosphere to allow gang violence to run rampant in the inner cities, yes?

Did you lobotomize your brain today?
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169. "We're talking on fucking okayplayer here. Nobody cares."
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And fuck Sarah Palin's good name. People have been shot here, including one whom Sarah Palin specifically called out to be shot. There's no reason to assume politics played no role in this.

  

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170. "Is it OK to suggest that the target poster is inappropriate?"
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No one is saying Palin is literally guilty of this crime.

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182. "you may not do that but...."
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>Maybe on the next one I'll blame the leftist politicians in
>the inner cities of creating an atmosphere to allow gang
>violence to run rampant in the inner cities, yes?

...that is very common on the right, to point at inner cities and say, "look what liberals in charge brought you" (replace "liberals" with whichever placeholder you'd like)

in any case, I only hope that this incident STOPS all the dog whistle talk from the crazies out there.

  

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176. "the crazy environment that the Tea Party"
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have brought into American politics makes them POSSIBLY complicit in this shit IMHO.

The Tea Party is in itself an OVERREACTION to one thing.

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180. "if there was nothing wrong with the Palin map, she should've left it up"
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right?

  

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181. "These same cats would flip..."
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.....if there was a situation where somebody ended up saying the blood of the innocent is on the hands of an entire group whom they do support. A lot of niggas on here stay showing they're no better than the groups of folks they look down on.








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193. "cuz I support many folks who post up maps of gun targets "
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228. "LOL"
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197. "once again, this is like when they blamed Goldwater for JFK"
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223. "go fuck yourself Pisspertise"
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this shit happens and you still gonna sit there waving your goddamn "Don't Tread On Me" flag without acknowledging any of the fucked up rhetoric your side constantly spits out? you're truly a useless piece of shit.



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230. "you and your people don't get to be offended today"
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the people your rhetoric unleashed are killing our people.

you don't get to feel anything but apologetic and abashed today.

fuck off.

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232. "'WHO ME'?! -- the tea party today "
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151. "This is some sick sad shit...People are dead..."
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They got the guy in custody. They have no idea why this person did this.

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174. "People are always dying."
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The only reason we know these people are dead is because of the nature of the incident, which is deeply political

Discussing the politics of a political event is natural, not sick or sad.

Even the fingerpointing in this post ultimately attempts to identify what might have led to this tragedy. In that light, it's more productive than staying silent and grieving thoughtlessly.

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154. "As much as I want republicans and tea-partiers to take the blame for thi..."
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I don't think this was political. If he shot just the senator and judge and thats it maybe. But he started shooting kids and such, that really doesnt endear anyone to your "political cause"

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159. "Dude is crazy."
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And should never see the light of day again.

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165. "The dude who crashed the plane into the IRS building was crazy too."
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As was the guy who pulled out a shotgun in the holocaust museum. As were the Oklahoma City bombers. You kinda have to be crazy to want to murder a large number of people out in the open in cold blood.

But crazy people respond to political rhetoric too, and we're seeing a continuing pattern of crazy people being set off by crazy political rhetoric. And the right wing has been far more effective in that morbid role than the left.

  

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183. "RE: The dude who crashed the plane into the IRS building was crazy too."
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>As was the guy who pulled out a shotgun in the holocaust
>museum. As were the Oklahoma City bombers. You kinda have to
>be crazy to want to murder a large number of people out in the
>open in cold blood.
>
>But crazy people respond to political rhetoric too, and we're
>seeing a continuing pattern of crazy people being set off by
>crazy political rhetoric. And the right wing has been far
>more effective in that morbid role than the left.

This^^^^

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199. "agreed."
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>
>But crazy people respond to political rhetoric too, and we're
>seeing a continuing pattern of crazy people being set off by
>crazy political rhetoric. And the right wing has been far
>more effective in that morbid role than the left.
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203. "absolutely."
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212. "She was the first person he shot. We have to assume that it was "
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political!

  

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172. "reports now saying the shooter was a veteran of the afghanistan war"
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178. "this whole situation stinks."
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192. "shit, so much about us treating our soldiers for mental issues"
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200. "I worry so much about that. There was an okp talking about"
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his own issues and I felt so bad for that cat. What can you do though except try to make sure their sacrifice isn't in vain by fighting against this farce wars?

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196. "Looks like he actually just tried to enlist, but was turned down."
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Military won't say why, but it presumably had something to do with him being a fucking lunatic.

  

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177. "I am incensed."
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184. "keep being blind to the danger of right wing nutbags if u want"
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185. "so why has sarah palin's team spent the day"
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scrubbing images like this off her various websites:

http://i.imgur.com/rik6d.jpg

if all that "don't retreat, reload" rhetoric is so innocent and harmless, then what's all the current scrambling about?

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187. "^ because they are distancing themselves from"
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the situation.

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189. "^^^^"
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>if all that "don't retreat, reload" rhetoric is so innocent
>and harmless, then what's all the current scrambling about?

  

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221. "The same reason the Daily Kos did:"
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http://wizbangblog.com/content/2011/01/08/that-giant-flushing-sound-you-hear.php

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234. "Tise, some of what you say has substance, but u lose"
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when you post as you did here. That link is in no way a 1-to-1 to what Palin did. 1) The influence of Palin in undeniable 2) Don't retreat, reload! is a clear message 3) Scrubbing crosshairs then saying it was simply surveyor map symbols is so full of shit flys are celebrating like New Years!

Yes, both sides have extreme rhetoric. Difference is, the Newts/Palins/Armeys of the world have a far greater platform, far more expansive audience and carry far more responsibility. Sarah CANNOT distance herself from this, even though she did not pull the trigger.

Just take the L on this issue and keep it moving.

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240. "your whole life is a joke"
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lol @ you trying to pretend like this is a threat:

"Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won't lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future."

there's zero violence implied in that article whatsoever, and truthfully i don't even know why they pulled it. contrast that with giffords' republican opponent holding an assault rifle in his ad, sarah palin putting gun targets on a congressional map at the same time she comes up with the clever motto "don't retreat, RELOAD," conservatives bringing guns to health care rallies, and the consistent tea party garbage about refreshing the tree of liberty with blood, "2nd amendment remedies," and all that (see post #233).

and, oh, just coincidentally death threats to members of congress have risen about 5,000% in the last two years. so, yeah, go ahead and keep pretending like this is all harmless political rhetoric, or that it's equal on both sides, or whatever else you have to tell yourself to stay in blissful denial about the type of people you're carrying water for. everybody else knows you're a joke though.

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186. "gawker post on shooterfelon-"
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link for pix-

http://gawker.com/5728605/arizona-shooter-explained-mind-control-on-youtube
Arizona Shooter Explained Mind Control on YouTube

The gunman who shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and 17 others in Arizona this morning has been identified as 22-year-old Jared Loughner. He uploaded a number of strange videos to YouTube expressing convoluted philosophical and political views. And he hates Giffords.

Here's what we know so far:

According to his YouTube page, Loughner graduated from Mountain View High School and attended Northwest Aztec Middle College and Pima Community College in Tucson, Arizona.
Catie Parker claims to have been in a band with Loughner, as well as his high school and college classmate. In a Twitter exchange with Anthony De Rosa, she said that when she knew Loughner he was a radical liberal, a "loner" and "very philosophical:
"He was a political radical and met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question and he told me she was 'stupid and unintelligent.' He was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix, The Doors, Anti-Flag.... As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

Parker says Loughner dropped out of school after getting alcohol poisoning in '06.


In one YouTube video, Loughner claims to be a military recruit at the Phoenix, Arizona Military Entrance Processing Station.


About those YouTube videos: They are very strange. All of Loughners videos feature only long passages of text which express quasi-political beliefs that could broadly be called anti government. He writes, "If the property owners and government officials are no longer in ownership of their land and laws from a revolution then the revolutionary's (sic) from the revolution are in control of the land and laws." Loughners main gist in his videos is that people will be freed through the development of a "new currency," whatever that is. His strange insistence on proper grammar is belied by his own horrible writing, and his one favorited video features a guy lighting an American flag.

On his now-defunct Myspace page, Loughner posted this picture of a handgun, possibly the one used in the shooting, on a copy of "united states history"


Via Hunter Walker, on March of 2010, Loughner was photographed by the Arizona Star at a book fair at Pima Community College.



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224. "so they trying to paint him as a liberal / leftist"
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yeah, right ....

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227. "sounds like started as hardcore communist"
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Commie then revolutionary then anti government then full circle "stick to guns&religion" Alex jones conservative


but mostly just all around dumb kid/crazy war vet style nutjob




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194. "im so disgusted & i hope yall tough typers are ready "
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for when it starts goin down on a wider scale
shit is real
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195. "I just find it interesting "
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that both victims (federal officials) were gun activists, so to speak.

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213. "Gifford was also for tougher immigration laws, something most Arizonans"
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support.

  

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204. "wow. the little girl was born on 9/11/01 (swipe):"
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207. "shit. that's a lil' TOO much symmetry for me."
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239. "that was Dallas Green's granddaughter"
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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/Dallas_Greens_granddaughter_killed_in_Arizona_shooting.html

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211. "Surprised they haven't removed it yet!"
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215. "I'm not"
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225. "Westboro Baptist Church To Picket Funerals Of Arizona Shooting Victims"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/09/westboro-baptist-church-arizona_n_806319.html

Westboro Baptist Church, the Topeka church known for its inflammatory anti-gay protests, plans to picket the funerals of the six people gunned down in Arizona on Saturday.

In a flier posted on its web site, the controversial church writes, "THANK GOD FOR THE SHOOTER -- 6 DEAD!" The message continues:

God appointed this rod for your sins! God sent the shooter! This hateful nation unleashed violent veterans on the servants of God at WBC--hoping to silence our kind warning to obey God and flee the wrath to come.
The flier claims that the shooting of both a House member and a federal judge -- the latter of whom was killed -- is god's punishment for judicial and Congressional action against the WBC. "God sent the shooter to shoot you! And He's sitting in Heaven laughing at you!" the announcement reads.

In graphic language, it continues:

Your federal judge is dead and your (fag-promoting, baby-killing, proud-sinner) Congresswoman fights for her life. God is avenging Himself on this rebellious house! WBC prays for your destruction--more shooters, more dead carcasses piling up, young, old, leader and commoner--all. Your doom is upon you!
In December, Westboro Baptist Church picketed the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards. The group is known to display signs that say "God Hates Fags" and "Thank God For Dead Soldiers."

Scroll down to see the full poster, or click here for a PDF.

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229. "these muthafuckers lol .... always on time "
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236. "Real talk: Can we please get a crazy Leftist to end these fuckers?"
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un/fortunately, the far Left are usually extreme pacifists. the inverse of the far-right.

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233. "September 12th, 2009"
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/3913625906/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/3913626290/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/3912801983/

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241. "H.A.M."
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...a child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind, god is smilin' on you and frownin' too, because only god knows what you gonna do...©melle mel

  

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242. "civics questions"
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First, peace to everyone victimized by this.

If Giffords does not survive or is unable to continue her term, does the Governor get to pick an interim?

Same for the judge?

If so, wow.
Even if there's a reelection for the seat,
that's still messed up considering how contested it was.

  

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243. "special election"
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- If Giffords dies, Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican, would have to call a special primary and general election to fill the vacancy because Arizona does not have a general election already scheduled within the next six months.

Brewer would have three days to decide on a date for the elections. Arizona law would put the special primary election date in about mid-March. -

last paragraph:
http://www.neontommy.com/news/2011/01/rep-gabrielle-giffords-arizona-democrat-shot

  

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245. "I wonder if she will have to pick a democrat"
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It would be perverse if she didn't.

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247. "what about the judge? I hope she pulls through completely but I'm concer..."
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if she can't continue on the job and this goes to special election, her opponent is likely going to win this time. what's the moral then if an election is hotly contested and your person doesn't win?

  

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252. "Roll is replaced by Roslyn Silver, senior-most active judge "
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- Replacing Judge Roll as chief judge of the district: Roslyn Silver, a Clinton appointee who also sits in Phoenix (not Raner Collins, who some outlets reported would take over as chief judge). Silver ascends by federal statute, which states that the senior-most active judge (as opposed to “senior-status” judge) under the age of 65 shall be the chief. -

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/01/10/arizona-federal-judges-reflect-on-their-fallen-colleague/

  

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254. "thanks"
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248. "it said "special primary and general election""
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*Jews you*

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244. "#TEAMDANIELHERNANDEZ"
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A 20-year-old intern is being hailed as a hero for his actions following Saturday's brutal shooting in Arizona.

Daniel Hernandez had been an intern for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords for just five days when a gunman opened fire in Tucson, killing six and putting the Arizona congresswoman in critical condition, AZCentral reports.

According to AZCentral, the University of Arizona junior says he ran towards the gunshots as soon as he heard them. "I don't even know if the gunfire had stopped," he says.

Hernandez tells ABC News that he rushed to a badly wounded Giffords to help stop her bleeding. "I had to lift up the congresswoman because she was severely injured, and I wanted to make sure that she was able to breathe okay because there was so much blood."

Hernandez adds that Giffords was "alert" and "able to hold my hand when I asked her if she could hear me." While the 20-year-old says that the congresswoman was responsive, he "wasn't able to get any words from her."

"'If you can hear me Gabby just grab my hand to let me know that you're okay,'" he says he told Giffords. "It was probably not the best idea to run toward the gunshots, but people needed help."

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246. "and they just appointed the lawyer that represented McVeigh to represent..."
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>>Loughner is expected to be represented by attorney Judy Clark, who defended Timothy McVeigh in the Oklahoma bombing case and "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski. Both of those cases are similar to the Arizona case where extreme violence took place against a background of some form of politics. But Clark also has defended non-political cases, including Susan Smith, a South Carolina woman who drowned her two sons in 1994.<<

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249. "I can respect that dude...but his life fucking sucks"
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