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aoxomoxoa
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"want 2 do an interview 4 okayplayer, rep the community"
Tue May-18-04 02:08 AM by okayplayer

  

          

some of y'all would do a better job answering these questions than me. Go ahead, give 'em a look, post up. You'll get credit for whatever is used.

http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/general1/36484.html

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"in the luv shack with a nug sack and my rug rats who keep naps under they skull caps. pass around a bottle of sambuca and a hookah, there's even times when i look into the future. blazin' DMT with GFE. now don't be surprised when you seein' me wi

  

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background on what its for...
May 13th 2004
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i run this place ... but i don't know the half
May 13th 2004
2
oh no you wouldn't
May 13th 2004
3
      I'm too lazy too but
May 13th 2004
5
           ms. janey can u write my response?
May 13th 2004
12
                Buzzed? You?
May 14th 2004
15
tell em to wait for the okaymentary to come out
May 13th 2004
4
really it should
May 13th 2004
7
or maybe
May 14th 2004
16
if you wanna link up sometime
May 13th 2004
6
lakers lose/flyers win
May 13th 2004
14
okay
May 13th 2004
8
done.
May 13th 2004
9
i'm poetx, i can sound all intelligent.
rickyBUTLER
May 13th 2004
10
      ja know? asshole. damn u poetx...n/m
May 13th 2004
13
      my bad: i'll edit & replace all polysyllabs with "titti
May 14th 2004
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           no. Editing is the LEAST you could do. I can't
May 14th 2004
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                true. what is gd without titties. i erred grievously.
May 16th 2004
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im gonna leave this anchored here into next week
May 13th 2004
11
i mind!
May 17th 2004
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aoxomoxoa
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1. "background on what its for..."
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my name is andré pinard. i am working with sean jacobs, based in New York City - contributing a chapter to a new booklength study on the politics of cybercommunities to be published in the United States. For our contribution, we are looking into discussing/comparing thepolitics / mechanics of a number of hip hop websites that actively set out to create active online communities; esp. sites that operate outside mainstream, commercial hip hop usually associated with wanton materialism.

At this point, we are looking at exploring a number of issues around the following websites: Okayplayer.com here in the United States and Africanhiphop.com, from the Netherlands/Africa.

I can explain more about the project and the kind of issues we are exploring once I get a reply from you. We are writing this email to serve as an introduction and to request an online interview (sending you questions) and perhaps, afterwards, a telephone interview.

About us: Andre Vladimir Pinard is a PhD student in the Sociology Department of the New School for Social Research and Sean Jacobs is a postdoctoral fellow of the International Center for Advanced Studies at New York University.

we would really appreciate your time, energy, insights, and consideration. we are inspired by the (cyber) space that you provide and are hoping to bring the dynamics of this space an uninformed, yet thirsty, (academic) audience.

peace,

andré aka dré p.

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"in the luv shack with a nug sack and my rug rats who keep naps under they skull caps. pass around a bottle of sambuca and a hookah, there's even times when i look into the future. blazin' DMT with GFE. now don't be surprised when you seein' me wi

  

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aoxomoxoa
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2. "i run this place ... but i don't know the half"
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of what goes on in the community. if i could hang out in here all day, then i would. but a rarely even visit.

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"in the luv shack with a nug sack and my rug rats who keep naps under they skull caps. pass around a bottle of sambuca and a hookah, there's even times when i look into the future. blazin' DMT with GFE. now don't be surprised when you seein' me wi

  

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3. "oh no you wouldn't"
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if you saw some of the things going on...

*shakes head*

I'm too lazy to answer all the questions, but I will say this. While I'm at work, this place is C R A C K to me.

~!~
Phoenix
Bird
Morph

...and we live off the G-Force...

scream phoenix


at the end of the day, though...

  

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5. "I'm too lazy too but"
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here's my spiel in case you want to work it in some place.

The public political discourse has devolved until it has become two people shouting sound bytes at one another. The internet adds to this chaos, feeding on headlines and flash imagery -- except on message boards. Message boards last longer than instant messaging or chat rooms and allow commentary by more than just the intended recipient, which (it seems to me) causes or can cause writers to think through their arguments before spewing something of no value into the mix. Irrelevant points and points with no value other than "hating" are called out -- the writer himself may not be convinced, but there's an opportunity for more serious political debate on sites such as these than in most other areas of our lives, *because* it's interactive and *because* it's a group effort rather than one on one. Here, voices of all ages and races are heard and are generally heard without much of the cultural baggage that face to face meetings entail.

Sometimes when I become discouraged with the current state of the country, the thing that raises my hopes is the intelligence and concern for issues displayed here. That does not mean that all posters are smart or show their intelligence, or that all posts are political in nature. But it gives me hope nonetheless.


~ ~ ~
All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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Every hundred years, all new people

  

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12. "ms. janey can u write my response?"
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i'm too buzzed to put intelligible words together.

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janey
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15. "Buzzed? You?"
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That's not what I call setting a good example for the children.

You bad, bad girl.

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All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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4. "tell em to wait for the okaymentary to come out"
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it should answer all their questions
hehe

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7. "really it should"
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if y'all do it right. (ha)

  

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16. "or maybe"
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we can both answer each other's questions.

(strokes goatee)

hmmmmmmmm.

---i'm here---

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KayDee
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6. "if you wanna link up sometime"
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i can answer all this in person....not up to typin all this right now.

bout to get drunk and watch the lakers lose/flyers win tonite tho....but f'real hit me up and i'll stop thru and do (yet another) interview about this place, haha.

  

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14. "lakers lose/flyers win"
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damn

thas a jinx dog

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i flip the flip for the flip
call me a flip flipper
than flip flop in my flip flops wit strip strippers

  

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johnbook
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8. "okay"
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>1. How would you describe oklayplayer.com? Where would you place it in the music universe? Would you say it fits the label "alternative hip hop" site? What is its relationship to mainstream rap? Does it attempt to break into the mainstream or is it attempting to establish a different music universe? <

I came to the site originally as the place to find like-minded Roots fans. It is their site. I don't view The Roots as being "alternative hip-hop" although I notice their names popping up in the same quarters. Is the site "alternative?" I think there is an equal passion for both the underground and the mainstream, with an equal distate for both. It commands a lot of heavy traffic simply because of the people who make up the community in the forums. There are a number of forums on the boards, and each forum has its own so-called community standards.

I think it will always look at rap music as the core, but at times it also looks into other avenues of hip-hop, and therefore other forms of music. I've always believed that you can't live by one form of music alone, and I would say that is the standard that is held on OkayPlayer.com. The fact that people are allowed to speak their minds on whatever music possible is great, because the powers that be could say "please, only talk about us" or "please, only bands that are labelmates".

If anything, it shows that Roots fans are some of the most well "spoken", most opinionated, and well-informed people out there. It's a great gathering place, which is what makes a lot of members want to meet each other in person. There are many fake personas, but the boards give a chance for people to interact in anyway possible.

>2. How important are the issues of race & ethnicity to the construction of your virtual community?<
It is very important. One can't help but discuss the diversity and quirks of the people involved, towards coming to some kind of understanding. All of us (well, most of us) are human, but we all come from very different backgrounds. The fact that we can communicate in some fashion, whether it's music, technology, politics, sex, barbeques, or simply complaining, is something that can't be done elsewhere without compromise.

>3. What is the attitude of the site's producers to mainstream produced hip hop and the politics of hip hop ? *Does the politics of the US, especially as regard to race impact on okayplayer.com and, if so, how?<

>4. Who-what other sites-would you consider your rivals?<
I don't look at another site as a rival, but I do frequent and post on other boards. They have their own communities and set of written and unwritten rules. Then again, Okay Player has a number of different boards in the forum, while other sites may have one or two. What I also like about OkayPlayer is that you have a wide age-span. You have young fans who are either in high school or just starting college, then you have people in their mid/late-20's, 30's, even a few in their 40's. Okay Player stands out on its own, and I think the only time one needs to mention a rival is when someone brings it up. That's very much a high school mentality of "your board is better than mine". I've been on the internet for almost 10 years and that mentality was popular when the Usenet was one of the few ways of talking to each. The internet has grown, it is definitely worldwide, and for the most part the discussions show this as well. Okay Player welcomes any and all.

>5. What would you say are the most common topics on okayplayer.com boards and why?<
It depends on what board. When The Roots come out with a new project, the Artist section will be anything and everything Roots. Tours, TV and radio appearances, and now a new DVD. There are other groups who are consisted part of the OkayPlayer family, and they are equally talked about. In General Discussion, it can be anything from partying and having fun, current trends, the popularity of a television show, or a place to gather and meet everyone. In The Lesson, which is about music, anything goes. Sometimes it can be about how great Outkast are, othertimes it may be anxiety over Radiohead tour dates. Maybe someone listened to A Tribe Called Quest and wants to open up to the world of jazz. Someone might have turned on the radio and heard some old Anthrax songs, and they'll want some recommendations. The primary focus is always hip-hop, because it is a hip-hop site, but the other discussions show how diverse the musical tastes of its members are. In Reviews, it can be anything from a concert review, favorite cartoons to DVD box sets, foreign films, or a comic book series. It's very different all around, so there's something for everyone. If not, create a topic and see where it goes.

>6. Is cyberactivism a mechanism that marginalized communities can seriously consider employing in their sociopolitical struggles?<
Definitely. If an issue touches someone, they can state their opinion and make an immediate impact. I did so a few times away from OkayPlayer, and they worked. Being an "activist" of any kind carries a stigma, and it has one on OkayPlayer as well. In other words, if someone says something that may be considered a statement, they are often told to go to the Activist section. Yet the Activist section is one of the most opinionated and lively sections on the board. A lot of people came to OKP because of the Activist section. If you want to say something, you can be heard.

>7. What impact do musically based cyber communities have on individuals and society as a whole? (impacts: both real and ideal)<
On individuals, it makes a big impact because instead of waiting for someone in your city to have the same interests, you can meet someone 200, 500, 1000, 3000, 10000 miles away and literally "shoot the shit". I am part of a music community, a group of people I have "known" for about seven years. We are like family, and that's eerie because we know each other's business. We are most likely going to grow old together. In my real life, I have always seeked a sense of community because where I'm from, community is everything. Being anonymous on the internet is something that is attractive to many, but being part of a family in digital form is unique because it's the discovery of music, ideas, philosophies, concerns, politics, and fears through words. We as humans still have a sense of trust, and we have to build our trust on people through what we read. One of the members of the community I'm with is making a name for himself in music, and I hear he often gives us shoutouts at each performance. It is very much like that here on OKP as well. I look forward to meeting some OKP's too.

>8. Does limited / skewed access to the internet make it a medium that only reaches /speaks to a certain social strata? Is that problematic or an issue for okayplayer.com, and how do you rationalise/respond to it?<
Well yes, it does have its limitations. While OkayPlayer is a public site, not everyone has access to the site, or know how to access the site. Anyone can walk into a library and use the computer to jump onto the internet.

But we are in the computer age, and I hope if more schools are open to bringing in more technology, that technology will be avaliable to all. Away form OkayPlayer, that is mandatory. You can't function without a computer, the whole millennium/illuminati scare was proof.

However, I also think that OkayPlayer can extend its reach by working in and within the real communities of each city, state, and country. To have OkayPlayer not be just an online entity, but one that could possibly make some change if it seeked it.

Is it a problem? Not if something can be done, and OkayPlayer has proved time and time again that it can be done.

We're all here in a sense to salute one of our favorite bands, and in many ways we come together for the love of music. But music isn't our only interest, and I think the site proves that even with many variations and differences, good people can find each other.




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9. "done."
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peace & blessings,

x.

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peace & blessings,

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rickyBUTLER

Thu May-13-04 12:02 PM

  
10. "i'm poetx, i can sound all intelligent."
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watch me answer these questions in the best way possible.

bah


  

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13. "ja know? asshole. damn u poetx...n/m"
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17. "my bad: i'll edit & replace all polysyllabs with "titti"
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(damn, a brother can't get his armchair sociologist on?)


peace & blessings,

x.

"I'm on the Zoloft to keep from killing y'all." - Iron Mike

peace & blessings,

x.

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18. "no. Editing is the LEAST you could do. I can't"
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believe you forgot the titties. What are you thinking man?

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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
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19. "true. what is gd without titties. i erred grievously."
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they missed the hairy p*ssy post, too.

that was a proud week in okphistory.


peace & blessings,

x.

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peace & blessings,

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11. "im gonna leave this anchored here into next week"
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hope no one minds.

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20. "i mind!"
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i'm so angry i could eat a kitten!

  

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