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"Talk About Sarah Palin Here."
Mon Sep-01-08 12:18 PM by tonywashington

Go! For the time being, no new Sarah Palin post unless her daughter gives birth at the convention.

-T
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"rick ross got old african woman swag" (c)nayaa

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Subject	Author	Message Date	ID
first	sixteenstone	Sep 01st 2008	1
BABIES HAVIN BABIES!!!!!	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	2
A TEENAGE LOVE!!!!	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	3
YA MOMS IS IN OUR BUSINESS!!!	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	4
BEFORE I LET GO (K Solo always wins)	bshelly	Sep 01st 2008	33
LIES RUMORS, RUMORS AND LIES!!! (c) K-S-O-LO	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	35
	Dr Claw	Sep 01st 2008	37
WHO BLOGGIN ALL THE RUMORS? WHO SPREADING ALL THE LIES?	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	38
I'M BACK IN EFFECT, WITH A PICK AND I'M SET	Dr Claw	Sep 01st 2008	42
FOUR PAID OFF ANCHORS SHOULD KILL THE NEGATIVE VIBE	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	61
Sarah Palin is bad for the environment	Harmonia	Sep 01st 2008	5
Sarah Palin is the cause of Global Warming	sixteenstone	Sep 01st 2008	6
i'm all about railin palin, baby.	PlanetInfinite	Sep 01st 2008	7
has bad hair	fire	Sep 01st 2008
she's fertile. i'd pound that pussy	ChuckFoPrez	Sep 01st 2008	8
FURTILE!!!!!*	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	10
whatever	ChuckFoPrez	Sep 01st 2008	15
lol.	tonywashington	Sep 01st 2008	9
talks about her daughter instead	eclipsedInI	Sep 01st 2008	11
If there's grass on the first daughter's field...	Frank Longo	Sep 01st 2008	12
who was the man on the grassy knoll?	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	13
PIC	jose3030	Sep 01st 2008	14
yall never let us down. lol.	tonywashington	Sep 01st 2008	16
*clasps NRA membership under a pic of Reagan and prays"	L_O_Quent	Sep 01st 2008	17
FAIL (n/m)	Allah	Sep 01st 2008	18
i can't wait for the return of 30 Rock. Tina Fey's gonna go in.	clover	Sep 01st 2008	19
Electing McCain/Palin and McCain dying <----WOW story	Phenomenality	Sep 01st 2008	20
Photo of she & hours old baby (No.Way.) (LINK)	Phenomenality	Sep 01st 2008	21
duuude thats her fifth	mista k5	Sep 01st 2008	29
Okay.. Here's an issue. HOW is she going to do a good job as VP	Phenomenality	Sep 01st 2008	34
^^sexism^^	Crash Bandacoot	Sep 01st 2008	45
Psssht.	Phenomenality	Sep 01st 2008	53
my sentiments exactly	firestarter	Sep 01st 2008	116
everyone acts like she doesn't have a husband	brownskinbaby	Sep 02nd 2008	335
thats all valid :)	mista k5	Sep 01st 2008	46
my oldest sister has 5 kids, shit is NO joke	fire	Sep 02nd 2008	181
that aint no hours old baby	NikaMandela	Sep 01st 2008	41
The article caption said 'day old son'...	Phenomenality	Sep 01st 2008	43
Palin's husband has DWI arrest	saxxx	Sep 01st 2008	22
so does Ted Kennedy and GWB*	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	23
in 1984/6 (seen two diff dates)	mista k5	Sep 01st 2008	31
obama "did a little blow"	Crash Bandacoot	Sep 01st 2008	47
oh come on. who cares about that?	83	Sep 01st 2008	52
What if Michelle had a DWI? Or Mrs. Biden?	Phenomenality	Sep 01st 2008	60
I dunno about Biden's wife...it'd be an issue with Michelle, definitely	Mole	Sep 01st 2008	111
CUT VEEP, CUT VEEP (c) SPM/Mccain Remix	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	24
LOL, The Doc loves how this VP pick has energized the jokey-jokes	Dr Claw	Sep 01st 2008	28
If Sarah Palin was black or latina	architectonic	Sep 01st 2008	25
i disargee on the latina	58impala	Sep 01st 2008	131
#184 (LINKS)	mochalox	Sep 02nd 2008	185
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k240/EmpressEricka/palin.jpg	Natural Mystic	Sep 01st 2008	26
Probably how she looked when she found out she got nominated.	B.J.S.301	Sep 01st 2008	30
Can you imagine how LIVID Hilary Clinton is right now?	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	27
The Baby is NOT McCain's *PIC	jose3030	Sep 01st 2008	32
^^^^^LOL	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	36
lol.	sweet ruffian	Sep 01st 2008	39
shit. im dyin!	NikaMandela	Sep 01st 2008	40
oh lord.	Natural Mystic	Sep 01st 2008	44
some ya'll mad. get a life.	Tiger Woods	Sep 01st 2008	48
The Doc wouldn't see it as 'mad'	Dr Claw	Sep 01st 2008	63
if they are going to just NOW look into her background	lfresh	Sep 02nd 2008	201
do you think this would have happened with Pawlenty?	Dr Claw	Sep 01st 2008	49
**	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	54
we've got a palin anchor, an RNC anchor...	iago	Sep 01st 2008	50
i don't think anyone has forgotten at all	mannmade	Sep 01st 2008	55
Time interview (swipe)	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	51
I feel so bad for her....	Phenomenality	Sep 01st 2008	58
What needs to stop	SienaBlaze	Sep 01st 2008	56
if this chick was a dem,the re's would paint her as the whore of babylon	J_Stew	Sep 01st 2008	57
ON Creationism (SWIPE)	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	59
Kids? Debate? Crationism and evolution? See, that's the....UGH.	Nukkapedia	Sep 01st 2008	64
don't try to understand it	Dr Claw	Sep 01st 2008	65
I agree with this	icecold21	Sep 02nd 2008	172
yeah, and both you and Palin can go sit on it.	Nukkapedia	Sep 02nd 2008	187
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223	babygirl_what	Sep 01st 2008	62
Talk About Sarah Palin Here. Nothing else is important.	Yadgyu	Sep 01st 2008	66
Palin has three more scandals? (swipe)	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	67
EVEN WORSE, SHE WAS A DIRECTOR OF TED STEVEN'S P.A.C.	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	69
double whammy	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	70
it's becoming more and more clear she really was picked just	Nukkapedia	Sep 01st 2008	77
now that's a low blow	all stah	Sep 01st 2008	81
thats not the argument homie. The issue is McCain's decision-	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	84
huh?	all stah	Sep 01st 2008	86
a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't.	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	87
RE: a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't.	all stah	Sep 01st 2008	90
Her experience qualifies her to be an undersecretary of Energy	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	92
but it was only 600k alaskans	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	93
SHE KNOWS SHIT ABOUT FOREIGN AFFAIRS first off	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	95
RE: SHE KNOWS SHIT ABOUT FOREIGN AFFAIRS first off	all stah	Sep 01st 2008	98
RE: a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't.	murphdogg	Sep 01st 2008	100
RE: a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't.	jane eyre	Sep 01st 2008	155
wait, obama having legislative experience???	all stah	Sep 01st 2008	166
also if u read the post i wasn't comparing experience	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	96
ah yes, good ole cronyism a la Bush...yes men>competence	nonseq	Sep 01st 2008	144
WOw @ Huffingtonpost	Wordup	Sep 01st 2008	68
it's "IN" season over there lol	Majhik101	Sep 01st 2008	71
payback's a bitch considering whut obama went thru	gluvnast	Sep 01st 2008	103
John McCain giving his VP some eye contact VIDEO LINK	13Rose	Sep 01st 2008	72
squawk!	fire	Sep 02nd 2008	332
She can come and get good dyck	all stah	Sep 01st 2008	73
Another movie, coming out *PIC	jose3030	Sep 01st 2008	74
WIN!	Adwhizz	Sep 01st 2008	82
oh wow...lol.	al_sharp	Sep 01st 2008	88
A+ posting	sunshine_dawkins	Sep 02nd 2008	328
BRISTOL PALIN IS ALREADY MARRIED????:	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	75
...wait, what?	Nukkapedia	Sep 01st 2008	76
that is supposedly her on the right, and the one on the left	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	78
they set the profile to private...	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	99
Um, yall make dozens of Obama posts in a week.	Expertise	Sep 01st 2008	79
^^^^^^eating spam sandwich with ovaltine at the libertarian treehouse	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	80
I don't know who locked your post but...	tonywashington	Sep 01st 2008	83
but 10 Obama posts are fine?	Expertise	Sep 01st 2008	91
honestly, I feel you on getting your post deleted...	Castro	Sep 01st 2008	94
Okayplayer officially endorses Obama	Kevan	Sep 01st 2008	97
Please stop...	tonywashington	Sep 01st 2008	107
Most of the time I am not here during the day...	tonywashington	Sep 01st 2008	106
^^^WAH!!!	al_sharp	Sep 01st 2008	115
shut the fuck up already.	Airbreed	Sep 02nd 2008
^^^WAH!!!	al_sharp	Sep 01st 2008	89
you're a fucking idiot.	now or never	Sep 02nd 2008	229
Palin hires attorney for Troopergate investigation	tonywashington	Sep 01st 2008	85
HOLD THE DAMN PHONE!	HueyShakur	Sep 02nd 2008	210
Evangelical with a pregnant teen daughter? Sounds like the Bible Belt	Cocobrotha2	Sep 01st 2008	101
the FUCK? cambell brown playing hardball	gluvnast	Sep 01st 2008
the FUCK? cambell brown playing hardball	gluvnast	Sep 01st 2008	102
YES	sixteenstone	Sep 01st 2008	105
Is this on youtube yet?!!! Campbell rides for Hillary she heated	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	120
RE: Talk About Sarah Palin Here.	murphdogg	Sep 01st 2008	104
PEOPLE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	Majhik101	Sep 01st 2008	112
^^^^this is important, mos def underrated*	58impala	Sep 01st 2008	130
cotdamn murph, that was some deep shit there	Bombastic	Sep 02nd 2008	178
speak on it God (c) Lord Jamar	13Rose	Sep 02nd 2008	215
RE: speak on it God (c) Lord Jamar	murphdogg	Sep 02nd 2008	218
Noteworthy response^^^^^^^^^^^^	e dubb	Sep 02nd 2008	319
... i'd smash	gwycliff	Sep 01st 2008	108
WOW CAMBELL BROWN IS GIVING HER THE BUSINESS	LadyA	Sep 01st 2008	109
.	SunDevil	Sep 01st 2008	110
I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that	squeeg	Sep 01st 2008	113
dude could not...would not answer the question she raised.	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	121
I got the Video!! /Campbell summed up my whole argument	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008
dude dont sonned in the worst way...tried to change the subject..lmao	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	126
I'M JUST CURIOUS!?	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	127
campbell gets brownie points with me	58impala	Sep 01st 2008	132
Thank you so much for this video.	Natural Mystic	Sep 02nd 2008	168
OG Russertdogg is smilin	analog2digital	Sep 02nd 2008	197
Newest news: Palin belonged to an Alaskan Sessionist Independent Party	LadyA	Sep 01st 2008	114
Video proof (Swipe)	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	119
I am just fucking SPEECHLESS right now	sixteenstone	Sep 01st 2008	123
I'm thinking i must be super high. She was a member too	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	125
lmao	Villain	Sep 01st 2008	147
oh WOW!!!!	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	122
jesus... this by far is one hell of election season	58impala	Sep 01st 2008	128
oh, MY damn.	Nukkapedia	Sep 02nd 2008	167
for the indigenous people of alaska??	lfresh	Sep 02nd 2008	203
exactly	Harmonia	Sep 02nd 2008	219
hard to get more unpatriotic than that	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	270
runs willy-nilly around this response in orange leotard and body paint	Nettrice	Sep 01st 2008	117
POWER: McCain having to RESPOND to Obama with his pick	firestarter	Sep 01st 2008	118
lmao....they going hard on Larry King live tonight.	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	124
so when can the comparisons to grandmama Lohan start?	eclipsedInI	Sep 01st 2008	129
wow, this is an absolute fiasco. it's still possible that she'll be aig...	Villain	Sep 01st 2008	133
Undecided voters polled, dislike Palin choice by 2-1 margin (swipe)	Lord_Vingtune	Sep 01st 2008	134
what kind of undecided voters?	ACRG	Sep 02nd 2008	171
I laughed OUT LOUD at the Barack interview on AC 360 tonight at the end	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	135
lol. tobi was telling me about that earlier.	abby	Sep 01st 2008	136
He even grinned like "you know you done fucked up right?"	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	138
Obama ETHERS PALIN on the low (I'm clapping!!)	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	137
But you have to tell the way he said it, though	JCass	Sep 01st 2008	139
actually, i thought that was a poor choice of things to say	KosherSam	Sep 01st 2008	141
well considering he has more people in his campaign than...	gluvnast	Sep 01st 2008	143
nevertheless, it's still a campaign	KosherSam	Sep 01st 2008	145
but he can't let people dismiss his exec. experience and work	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	146
why not?	sixteenstone	Sep 01st 2008	149
harvard law review has a larger staff and dealt with more money.	poetx	Sep 01st 2008	150
the point was she is small beans. His lil campaign sons her whole life.	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	148
^	used to be abby	Sep 02nd 2008	193
HERE WE GO:	Natural Mystic	Sep 02nd 2008	169
palin was in an alaskan succession party???	gluvnast	Sep 01st 2008	140
S-E-C-E-S-S-I-O-N	KosherSam	Sep 01st 2008	142
McCain apparently lied about vetting her/FBI check etc (nytimes swipe)	nobodydoesitbetter	Sep 01st 2008	151
and another one (video link)	sixteenstone	Sep 01st 2008	152
she was about to go racist in that rant	paragon216	Sep 02nd 2008	243
Palin secured $27 million earmarks for a town of 6,700 (swipw)	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	153
CNN has an update on "Trooper Gate"	sixteenstone	Sep 01st 2008	156
You realize Obama is a Jedi right?	Mr Mystery	Sep 01st 2008	161
If Barack don't use this here he ain't surs about winnin'	Majhik101	Sep 02nd 2008	177
Her daughter's baby's father... (link & swipe)	Marbles	Sep 01st 2008	154
WOW. Someone find dudes MySpace NOW.	Natural Mystic	Sep 02nd 2008	170
RE: WOW. Someone find dudes MySpace NOW.	PlanetInfinite	Sep 02nd 2008	176
i love you. so much.	Natural Mystic	Sep 02nd 2008	237
this shit, man.	bshelly	Sep 01st 2008	157
i need that pic basa uses for shit like this.	Villain	Sep 01st 2008	160
THIS IS AWESOME!!!	jswerve386	Sep 01st 2008	158
"Sarah Palin makes Barack Obama look like John Adams!"	Nukkapedia	Sep 01st 2008	164
That's actually very good.	Triptych	Sep 02nd 2008	180
OWW BITCH!	BlaizeBlack26	Sep 02nd 2008	266
100%!	fire	Sep 02nd 2008	337
there's no way Palin is staying on the ticket	AZ	Sep 01st 2008	159
if she's off the ticket, it's a wrap	Mynoriti	Sep 02nd 2008	173
worse thing to happen to her?	ACRG	Sep 01st 2008	162
It's overwhelming to me how ridiculously SNL this ladies story is	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	163
WOW...the republican chicks on Larry King were sonned tonight	liveguy	Sep 01st 2008	165
Um Sarah, I'ma need to see a birth certificate... (swipe)	Castro	Sep 02nd 2008	174
smh.... WOW	sixteenstone	Sep 02nd 2008	190
WOW!!!!! Hahaha....just wow!	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	213
THIS IS SCANDALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	fire	Sep 02nd 2008	338
http://i34.tinypic.com/28iapoi.jpg	Doc Maestro	Sep 02nd 2008	175
The Doc can say with confidence... Palin is a dumbass.	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	179
look at the link in #174....she is lying on top of lying...	Castro	Sep 02nd 2008	182
all that's getting the GOP their numbers is 'cism at this point	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	189
all that's getting the GOP their numbers is 'cism at this point	disco dj	Sep 02nd 2008	194
I would at least respect their honesty...	ZooTown74	Sep 02nd 2008	198
yep. that's all I ask. Be real with it.	disco dj	Sep 02nd 2008	202
because they won't say it on camera	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	208
Call her General Palin	Earl Flynn	Sep 02nd 2008	183
What if Palin were a black woman????? (LINK)	mochalox	Sep 02nd 2008	184
Any wrong doing by white women ,media make them to be victims	sixteenstone	Sep 02nd 2008	186
entitlement. It's not just a buzzword	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	188
holy shit... GADOUKEN THROWN right here in the first link	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	192
Yeah, son was firing with both barrels...	ZooTown74	Sep 02nd 2008	195
this right here got me	lfresh	Sep 02nd 2008	200
the word for word anticipation of 'conservative' criticism	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	205
LOL at this article detailing how vetted she was:	83	Sep 02nd 2008	191
McCain just sent a team down to Alaska a few days ago	temps2020	Sep 02nd 2008	214
have we talked about her being a secessionist yet? AIP?	poetx	Sep 02nd 2008	196
he wouldn't have made it past Massachussetts	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	206
the media needs to talk about this...if she's gonna be a vp	temps2020	Sep 02nd 2008	212
if she were the gov of TX talkin' this crap, I might look the other way	mochalox	Sep 02nd 2008	225
Her daughter loves to kick-it....link...	Fehsmai	Sep 02nd 2008	199
RE: Her daughter loves to kick-it....link...	SunDevil	Sep 02nd 2008	204
ok, now it's gone BEYOND bullshit... LTDAO	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	207
Missing Mom. her kids are slutting it up and she's in washington!	KosherSam	Sep 02nd 2008	217
LOL	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	221
media take out?	bfnh	Sep 02nd 2008	209
yeah...that's NOT Bristol Palin.	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	211
It's Bristol's baby daddy's SISTER. LMAO more pics	Phenomenality	Sep 02nd 2008	216
doesn't grandma look so proud? .....	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	220
whoa that does look suspect, but	Mr Mystery	Sep 02nd 2008	234
she's going to make Laura and Jenna look like nuns	ThaTruth	Sep 02nd 2008	222
Palin seems to think the Founding Fathers wrote the pledge of allegiance	loryn	Sep 02nd 2008	223
She look like she does MILF porn	aroundRobinHoodsbarn	Sep 02nd 2008	224
Thomas Eagleton with breasts	Marauder21	Sep 02nd 2008	226
RE: Thomas Eagleton with breasts	fire	Sep 02nd 2008	340
some photoshops	J_Stew	Sep 02nd 2008	227
LMMFAO CHRIS HANSEN	Natural Mystic	Sep 02nd 2008	232
If Sara Palin wasn't pregnant then who's baby is that?	Choklytcytee	Sep 02nd 2008	228
LOL Turns out she has a "Rev Wright" problem too	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	230
Video:	LeonPause	Sep 02nd 2008	233
oh man i see the bush commercial now	Mr Mystery	Sep 02nd 2008	235
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/TStatic/bristolbabydaddy.jpg	Natural Mystic	Sep 02nd 2008	231
Bristol "First Response" Palin givin up dat Alaskan Pussy.....n/m	Tw3nty	Sep 02nd 2008	236
	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	238
honestly	DonKnutts	Sep 02nd 2008	239
SARAH PALIN AT WAR WITH HER DAUGHTER OVER PREGNANCY & WEDDING	paragon216	Sep 02nd 2008	240
I can see this	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	254
yo, WTF is up with the ENQUIRER suddenly being Woodward & Bernstein?	KosherSam	Sep 02nd 2008	255
LOL!! right?	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	271
you know! this is crazy.	tonywashington	Sep 02nd 2008	330
teenage shotgun wedding = family values	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	274
This is rapidly turning into a goddamn trainwreck.	Nukkapedia	Sep 02nd 2008	277
Peep this hilarious mock Palin Blog (swipe)	Mr Mystery	Sep 02nd 2008	241
So is this the official scandal tally?	Mr Mystery	Sep 02nd 2008	244
LOL Rove Unwittingly Ethered McCain (video)	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	242
holy shit	ternary_star	Sep 02nd 2008	246
Seriously is it even possible to spin this?	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	252
he's literally describing Palin	ternary_star	Sep 02nd 2008	257
Exactly	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	261
& i love it!	fire	Sep 02nd 2008	342
when McCain dies, we'll have 2 LADIES in office	ternary_star	Sep 02nd 2008	245
Well, the 'Girl Power' Stans will be all over that.	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	247
does the the Speaker automatically become VP?	ThaTruth	Sep 02nd 2008	249
If the VP is alive, they get to name their own VP	KosherSam	Sep 02nd 2008	250
MSNBC says the kids were duped!	Mr Mystery	Sep 02nd 2008	248
somewhere, Expertise smokes a cigar.	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	251
that's insane, to accept the VP slot without consulting your family at a...	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	276
obama 50. mccain 42. latest gallup.	nobodydoesitbetter	Sep 02nd 2008	253
that will probably shrink after the RNC, though	ternary_star	Sep 02nd 2008	256
this isn't -that- impossible to believe	Dr Claw	Sep 02nd 2008	258
Which is why that shit geraldine ferraro said was so fucked up	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	263
RE: Which is why that shit geraldine ferraro said was so fucked up	murphdogg	Sep 02nd 2008	286
are you kidding me?	sixteenstone	Sep 02nd 2008	262
via satellite	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	264
yup	sixteenstone	Sep 02nd 2008	268
i see obama pulling away and the polls not being close again	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	279
i think the only potential stumbling block are the evangelicals	ternary_star	Sep 02nd 2008	282
i think the pregnant daughter (and handling of) mutes their enthusiasm	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	289
The post RNC bump won't matter though	Marauder21	Sep 02nd 2008	290
RE: Talk About Sarah Palin Here.	Swol_Belly	Sep 02nd 2008	259
McCain campaign just called Obama sexist	architectonic	Sep 02nd 2008	260
Palin has more "executive experience" than John McCain too	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	267
This is now the answer for everything	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	269
I hope Olbermann and them get a hold of this vid and do work	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	273
this is called "playing the gender card/victim."	Nukkapedia	Sep 02nd 2008	275
this won't work, americans don't vote for the victim	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	281
all they gotta do is say Palin said to stop whining and pull the quote	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	303
i am hoping somebody does this!!!	mermaid	Sep 03rd 2008	361
Larry King style ETHER....(link)	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	265
Pt. 2 of the ETHER....they was gettin it last night lol...(links)	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	272
this was great. thank you.	Natural Mystic	Sep 03rd 2008	346
Larry King got me ROLLIN	ternary_star	Sep 02nd 2008	280
she sold a plane on ebay...cmon!!	LAbeathustla	Sep 02nd 2008	283
Carville politely put the hammer down on that lady.	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	292
that was a professional assassin at work	bshelly	Sep 02nd 2008	305
She is deeply frightening	ArtVandelay	Sep 02nd 2008	341
Can these republican heads even hear themselves talk? LMAO	LA2Philly	Sep 03rd 2008	352
ya'll know sarah palin's on twitter? (link)	al_sharp	Sep 02nd 2008	278
Palin says the iraqi war is messianic in nature, god's will (swipe)	Maroon Tiger 2	Sep 02nd 2008	284
What is the link for this?	Frank Longo	Sep 02nd 2008	310
whoops sorry....article and video link...	Maroon Tiger 2	Sep 02nd 2008	318
daily kos: this palin photo wins the election for obama (swipe)	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	285
lol...shit looks like a highway rest area stop.	al_sharp	Sep 02nd 2008	287
dawg.....is that a Dairy Queen? Bwahahahahahaha!!!!	liveguy	Sep 02nd 2008	288
would you like fries with that legislation?	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	291
even more pictures! LOL!!	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	294
The Carville photo cracks me up	sixteenstone	Sep 02nd 2008	295
I'll take a building permit and a coke	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	296
	architectonic	Sep 02nd 2008	301
looks like you can buy beer via drive thru!	J_Stew	Sep 03rd 2008	344
ok..i'm fkn convinced palin gave mccain that good head the one time	LAbeathustla	Sep 02nd 2008	293
Cindy Mc Cain looks like a grown version of those kids from	sixteenstone	Sep 02nd 2008	298
Vicodin will do that to you	Marauder21	Sep 02nd 2008	313
Isn't it Ironic that she's for Abstinence education and...........	M2	Sep 02nd 2008	297
so ironic. and so true.	sunshine_dawkins	Sep 02nd 2008	327
washington post: palin's car wash business FAILED in 2006 (swipe)	theprofessional	Sep 02nd 2008	299
LOL @ this part here	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	300
a car wash in alaska?...great idea	LAbeathustla	Sep 02nd 2008	304
RE: a car wash in alaska?...great idea	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	306
her original idea was mrs. plow's snow removal service	theprofessional	Sep 03rd 2008	354
Levi goes to the convention!	paragon216	Sep 02nd 2008	302
"grandma..secret service is at the door. talkin bout a shotgun wedding"	LAbeathustla	Sep 02nd 2008	307
LOL	Natural Mystic	Sep 03rd 2008	347
oh. my. fucking. God.	bshelly	Sep 02nd 2008	308
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	311
THEY TURNIN' THE RNC INTO A JERRY SPRINGER EPISODE!!!!!	theprofessional	Sep 03rd 2008	355
i just need to say it once: this bitch is a HORRIBLE mom	bshelly	Sep 02nd 2008	309
If i were that girl, i would HATE my mother	KosherSam	Sep 02nd 2008	316
I feel sorry as hell for that girl	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	320
Missing Mom (equivalent to Bad Dad)	Dr Claw	Sep 03rd 2008	353
can I get a (c) on that?	KosherSam	Sep 03rd 2008	360
Video (LINK) - Palin speaking for the Alaskan Independence Party..	eldealo	Sep 02nd 2008	312
i guess windbreakers are still in style up thurr in alaska.	al_sharp	Sep 02nd 2008	314
What's more ironic?	OldPro	Sep 02nd 2008	317
Damn, I wanted to rock my Duck Hunt avy, but this Palin thing made me	Marauder21	Sep 02nd 2008	315
i gotta cosign with sixteenstone	Harmonia	Sep 02nd 2008	321
this blog is pretty interesting..i believe its from where shes from	LAbeathustla	Sep 02nd 2008	322
Why doesnt Hill-Dawg go IN on Palin?	s_dot_miles	Sep 02nd 2008	323
I'm sure she will down the stretch	Marauder21	Sep 02nd 2008	325
judging by the latest boost in polls there's no need so far	gluvnast	Sep 02nd 2008	329
She wanted to ban books? (link)	Marauder21	Sep 02nd 2008	324
RE: She wanted to ban books? (link)	SunDevil	Sep 02nd 2008	326
lol	Harmonia	Sep 02nd 2008	331
^^^^^^^^^^NICKNAME FOUND: GOVERNOR FAILIN	theprofessional	Sep 03rd 2008	356
RE: Talk About Sarah Palin Here.	astron b	Sep 02nd 2008	333
mccain campaign reniged on larry king interview	gluvnast	Sep 02nd 2008	334
Hold up she had a marketing company called Red Neck?	Mr Mystery	Sep 02nd 2008	336
If you saw Pallenti speak on Pallin..	Warren Coolidge	Sep 02nd 2008	339
could somebody give me a brief recap of this shit?	Apollo Kid	Sep 02nd 2008	343
read all 300 posts, you'll thank yourself later	theprofessional	Sep 03rd 2008	357
trust me you do want to go through all of em	sixteenstone	Sep 03rd 2008	358
ponder this:	J_Stew	Sep 03rd 2008	345
^	al_sharp	Sep 03rd 2008	348
8 Reasons Sarah Palin Is More Qualified Than Barack Obama (swipe)	al_sharp	Sep 03rd 2008	349
This is like a bad dream that won't end.	Kira	Sep 03rd 2008	350
she's the gift that keeps on giving	theprofessional	Sep 03rd 2008	359
Sarah's church (swipe)	mrshow	Sep 03rd 2008	351
can i just say that i'm tired of these repub women using sexism	mermaid	Sep 03rd 2008	362

sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:08 PM

1. "first"
In response to Reply # 0

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:08 PM

2. "BABIES HAVIN BABIES!!!!!"
In response to Reply # 0

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:08 PM

3. "A TEENAGE LOVE!!!!"
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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:09 PM

4. "YA MOMS IS IN OUR BUSINESS!!!"
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bshelly
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:11 PM

33. "BEFORE I LET GO (K Solo always wins)"
In response to Reply # 4

----
bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:15 PM

35. "LIES RUMORS, RUMORS AND LIES!!! (c) K-S-O-LO"
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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:18 PM

37. ""
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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:20 PM

38. "WHO BLOGGIN ALL THE RUMORS? WHO SPREADING ALL THE LIES?"
In response to Reply # 37

PALIN DROP OUT? YOU MUST DISTRIBUTE ST.IDES!!!! (I SEE YA CINDY)

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:27 PM

42. "I'M BACK IN EFFECT, WITH A PICK AND I'M SET"
In response to Reply # 38

CHECK THE BESMIRCHED REP, SCARIN IRAN WITH A BOMB THREAT
RUMORS AND LIES AT AT THE SAME TIME TRY TO DESTROY MCCAIN
IS THIS THE PRICE OF FAME?
IF PEOPLE GOT ELECTED FOR RUMORS TO TALK
THE JACKASSES WOULDA PICKED THAT SENATOR FROM NEW YORK

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 02:07 PM

61. "FOUR PAID OFF ANCHORS SHOULD KILL THE NEGATIVE VIBE"
In response to Reply # 42

PALIN'S NAME AND FAME COULD NEVA BE DENIED
ITS GOT ME TRAPPED ON COLBERT AND I FINTA ATTACK
I TRIED TO ISSUE A STATEMENT BUT NOW I CAN'T HOLD IT BACK!!!

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Harmonia
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:09 PM

5. "Sarah Palin is bad for the environment"
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm

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sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:10 PM

6. "Sarah Palin is the cause of Global Warming"
In response to Reply # 0

that's why she doesn't want to admit it's caused by humans

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PlanetInfinite
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:10 PM

7. "i'm all about railin palin, baby."
In response to Reply # 0

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fire
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:11 PM

"has bad hair"

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ChuckFoPrez
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:11 PM

8. "she's fertile. i'd pound that pussy"
In response to Reply # 0

https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

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ACRG
Member since Aug 21st 2007
3496 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 12:15 PM

10. "FURTILE!!!!!*"
In response to Reply # 8

o00o

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ChuckFoPrez
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:26 PM

15. "whatever"
In response to Reply # 10

https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

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tonywashington
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:13 PM

9. "lol."
In response to Reply # 0

-T
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eclipsedInI
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:20 PM

11. "*talks about her daughter instead*"
In response to Reply # 0

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Frank Longo
Member since Nov 18th 2003
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:21 PM

12. "If there's grass on the first daughter's field..."
In response to Reply # 0

...then fuck the shit out of her and give the baby to Mommy!

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ACRG
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:23 PM

13. "who was the man on the grassy knoll?"
In response to Reply # 12

o00o

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jose3030
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:26 PM

14. "PIC"
In response to Reply # 0

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c295/whale_hunter/oops.jpg

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tonywashington
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:27 PM

16. "yall never let us down. lol."
In response to Reply # 0

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L_O_Quent
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:28 PM

17. "*clasps NRA membership under a pic of Reagan and prays""
In response to Reply # 0

The offspring :-D

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Allah
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:36 PM

18. "FAIL (n/m)"
In response to Reply # 0

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clover
Member since Sep 01st 2007
1831 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 12:38 PM

19. "i can't wait for the return of 30 Rock. Tina Fey's gonna go in."
In response to Reply # 0

that bidge ain't foolin nobody.

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Phenomenality
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31246 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 12:40 PM

20. "Electing McCain/Palin and McCain dying <----WOW story"
In response to Reply # 0

Electing McCain/Palin and McCain dying while in the White House is scary enough.

Electing McCain/Palin and McCain not dying while in the White House absolutely terrifying.

Reasons:

Symptoms of POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER are prevalent with Combat Duty and POWs. Symptoms include chronic physical signs of hyper arousal, including sleep problems, TROUBLE CONCENTRATING, IRRITABILITY, ANGER, POOR CONCENTATION, blackouts or DIFFICULTY REMEMBERING THINGS, increased tendency and reaction to being startled, and HYPER VILIGANCE TO THREAT.

Two scientific articles:

1st Article: Worsening of post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms with cognitive decline: case series.

Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Jackson, Mississippi 39216, USA.

Patient age ranged from 57 to 70 years old and all patients had war-related PTSD. In each case, the patient had a history of PTSD that was under fairly good control until the onset of cognitive impairment due to Alzheimer's disease or vascular or alcohol-related dementia.

To view the entire article,
www.PubMed.org and search on �Worsening of post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms with cognitive decline: case series�

2nd Article: Memory performance in older trauma survivors: implications for the longitudinal course of PTSD.

James J. Peters VA Medical Center, OOMH, 130 West Kingsbridge Road, Bronx, NY 10468, USA. Julia.golier@med.va.gov

These alterations may put trauma survivors with PTSD at greater risk for cognitive decline in later life. PTSD was associated with substantial impairments in learning, free and cued recall, and recognition memory.

To view the entire article,
www.PubMed.org and search on �Memory performance in older trauma survivors: implications for the longitudinal course of PTSD�

Additional concerns of a MD from Chesterton, IN brings up critical points about McCain�s ability to govern:
�As a psychiatrist, I find the most troubling void in McCain's personal story, THE ABSENCE OF RESULTS FROM HIS VARIOUS NEURO-PSYCHIATRIC-EVALUATIONS. A man who demonstrates suggestive behaviors consistent with both Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (episodic, violent outbursts) and early dementia (multiple slips and errors of fact, flat, unmodulated speech, excessive reliance on teleprompters), McCAIN�S REFUSAL TO RELEASE THE RESULTS OF THESE EVALUATIONS RAISES THE SERIOUS POSSIBILITY THAT HE IS CONCEALING SIGNIFICANT MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL DYSFUNCTION. While in general, there is an important right to privacy that must ordinarily be respected with all patients, the fact that this particular patient has chosen to run for the presidency makes it imperative that these records become available.�

Summary:

We owe McCain our love and respect for his military service. However, I love my grandchildren and this country too much to vote McCain into the White House.

The Choice is Ours:
If you want "EXPERIENCE AT GETTING IT WRONG", vote for McCain.
If you want "JUDGEMENT AT GETTING IT RIGHT", vote for Obama.

~ Do Not Let this Universe Regret You ~

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Phenomenality
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:43 PM

21. "Photo of she & hours old baby (No.Way.) (LINK)"
In response to Reply # 0

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/08/29/sarahpalintoddbaby_2.jpg

^^^^ does that look like a mom in the hospital hours or even a day after giving birth???

now i was the one talking about how the chances of having a downs syndrome baby increases exponentially with age, but this woman did NOT just give birth. Look at her hair.. the pearls.

nah... i dont know if i'm buying it.

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mista k5
Member since Feb 01st 2006
16415 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:08 PM

29. "duuude thats her fifth"
In response to Reply # 21

they built a dam in her just to keep it in that whole time.

but nah ima give them the benefit of the doubt. lets focus on issues. this choice for vp is ridiculous by itself we dont need to focus on these things.

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Phenomenality
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 PM

34. "Okay.. Here's an issue. HOW is she going to do a good job as VP"
In response to Reply # 29

with all the demands and stress and on-the-road life... and still care for a brand new baby with special needs and an underage pregnant daughter and her OTHER 4 children?

that woman needs to be with her children. do you have any idea how much work it is to care for a special needs child??

if SASHA was 17 and pregnant and Michelle just had a downs syndrome baby the right would be MURDERING their chances..

>but nah ima give them the benefit of the doubt. lets focus on
>issues. this choice for vp is ridiculous by itself we dont
>need to focus on these things.

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Crash Bandacoot
Member since May 13th 2003
10122 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:34 PM

45. "^^sexism^^"
In response to Reply # 34

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Phenomenality
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:47 PM

53. "Psssht."
In response to Reply # 45
Mon Sep-01-08 01:57 PM by Phenomenality

FIVE kids, fam.. a grandbaby on the way that SHE will have to support and a 4 month old SPECIAL NEEDS BABY of her own. downs syndrome children require CONSTANT supervision and support. how is she going to *truly* feel about leaving her newborn baby like this.

this is going to kill her. with family seeming to be the biggest anchor of her life.. this is going to be the worst decision she ever made for herself and her family personally, i'm sure.

comeon.

EYE am a mom of 2 daughters who owns and operates 2 businesses, has 5 employees and is the new ED of a large non profit.

im completely TAPPED. im at the absolute limits of what i can do and still be a good mother to my children.

VICE PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES?

yo.. her family is going to be the busiest, most overworked and most stressed out family ALIVE. AND having to put on the 'happy, healthy face' to represent the entire republican party??

she bit off waaaaay more than she (and her family) are going to be able to chew.

i feel bad for her.

i bet she regrets accepting for the rest of her life.

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firestarter
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:13 PM

116. "my sentiments exactly"
In response to Reply # 53

I was thinking the same shit.

Raising five kids and the brand new baby has down syndrome, the other ones preggers and your son is bout to go off to Iraq?!?

Maybe you should keep a closer eye on your own house lady before running off to the white house. Finish raising them babies first, I think your husband needs a hand.

Where is she picking up her Xanax script? Do you have to pass a drug test to be VP?

Just wondering.

Side note:
Michelle seems to be holding it down pretty well with the two girls but Pallin's got me worried.

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brownskinbaby
Member since Aug 31st 2003
9004 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 10:39 PM

335. "everyone acts like she doesn't have a husband"
In response to Reply # 53

and like they won't hire a nanny... if they don't already have one. if it was her husband running president no one would be saying that he shouldn't be president.

now mind you i have no intention of voting for mccain/palin, but i don't think it's fair to make that the reason she shouldn't be vp.

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mista k5
Member since Feb 01st 2006
16415 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:36 PM

46. "thats all valid :)"
In response to Reply # 34

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fire
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:30 AM

181. "my oldest sister has 5 kids, shit is NO joke"
In response to Reply # 34

the good thing is that she's a schoolteacher so their downtime = her downtime...and for the record NONE of my nieces are/have been pregnant...my sister woulda killed them.

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NikaMandela
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:25 PM

41. "that aint no hours old baby"
In response to Reply # 21

why would they put clothes on an hours old baby like that?

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Phenomenality
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31246 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:29 PM

43. "The article caption said 'day old son'..."
In response to Reply # 41

anything under 24 hrs is 'hours'.. lol.

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saxxx
Member since Jun 29th 2008
3574 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 12:44 PM

22. "Palin's husband has DWI arrest"
In response to Reply # 0

yo

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01/palins-husband-has-dwi-arrest/

yep

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ACRG
Member since Aug 21st 2007
3496 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 12:49 PM

23. "so does Ted Kennedy and GWB*"
In response to Reply # 22

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mista k5
Member since Feb 01st 2006
16415 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:10 PM

31. "in 1984/6 (seen two diff dates)"
In response to Reply # 22

if its in 84 according to fox he would had been 20. BUT that was 24 years ago, come on we have enough real issues to attack the republicans with.

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Crash Bandacoot
Member since May 13th 2003
10122 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:38 PM

47. "obama "did a little blow""
In response to Reply # 22

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83
Member since Sep 16th 2007
12708 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:46 PM

52. "oh come on. who cares about that?"
In response to Reply # 22

we can't start digging too deep cause it'll come back when people start posting up all the sketchy things democrats have done.

especially democrats that aren't running.

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Phenomenality
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Mon Sep-01-08 02:03 PM

60. "What if Michelle had a DWI? Or Mrs. Biden?"
In response to Reply # 52

agreed its silly, specially since it was 16 years ago..

but you KNOW any of these things would sink the democratic ticket.

its not fair.

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Mon Sep-01-08 07:34 PM

111. "I dunno about Biden's wife...it'd be an issue with Michelle, definitely"
In response to Reply # 60

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:49 PM

24. "CUT VEEP, CUT VEEP (c) SPM/Mccain Remix"
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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
132214 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:06 PM

28. "LOL, The Doc loves how this VP pick has energized the jokey-jokes"
In response to Reply # 24

This wouldn't have happened w/Pawlenty

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architectonic
Member since Feb 06th 2003
9940 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 12:50 PM

25. "If Sarah Palin was black or latina"
In response to Reply # 0

and it came out her teen daughter was pregnant....

the right would be crucifying her

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58impala
Member since Nov 08th 2004
16633 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:07 PM

131. "i disargee on the latina"
In response to Reply # 25

latinos are crucial to GOP.

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mochalox
Member since Mar 16th 2004
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:00 AM

185. "#184 (LINKS)"
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Natural Mystic
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Mon Sep-01-08 12:55 PM

26. "http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k240/EmpressEricka/palin.jpg"
In response to Reply # 0

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B.J.S.301
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:10 PM

30. "Probably how she looked when she found out she got nominated."
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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:04 PM

27. "Can you imagine how LIVID Hilary Clinton is right now?"
In response to Reply # 0

Hilary was able to survive the whitewater scandal, years of the republican machine baiting her, kept her affair with live-in lover/assistant Huma Abedin relatively under wraps...only to watch someone getting HANDED to them something she wanted so desperately, and they may not even make it through the week!!!

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jose3030
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:10 PM

32. "The Baby is NOT McCain's *PIC"
In response to Reply # 0

http://i38.tinypic.com/3581dzr.gif

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:16 PM

36. "^^^^^LOL"
In response to Reply # 32

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sweet ruffian
Member since Jul 11th 2003
8129 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:23 PM

39. "lol."
In response to Reply # 32

>http://i38.tinypic.com/3581dzr.gif
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NikaMandela
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:24 PM

40. "shit. im dyin!"
In response to Reply # 32

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Natural Mystic
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:31 PM

44. "oh lord."
In response to Reply # 32

>http://i38.tinypic.com/3581dzr.gif
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Tiger Woods
Member since Feb 15th 2004
18388 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:43 PM

48. "some ya'll mad. get a life."
In response to Reply # 0

bammas talkin bout no experience. barack has no experience either.
talkin bout desperate pick, biden could be called a desperate pick to quiet the talk of barack's inexperience.
and if they were goin in on barack and his kids ya'll would sympathize with the situation, but its a republican chick so shes a cunt.
and so what if her husband got a DWI, ted kennedy did far worse. lotta people do dumb dumb dumb stuff, all you can do is look at those things and use those misgivings to guide your life and aim not to do things similar. on the real, Barack wouldn't say the kinds of hateful things about Palin that some people here have said this week.

let the policies speak for themselves. I don't know much about her or her platform as a governor, but that's the sort of things ya'll should be basing your opinions on. Bill Clinton was an adulterer, but he gets a pass for that because ultimately he was a pretty good leader of this country. Barack been sayin "we can do better", so take his advice. Be mature,base your opinions on this woman on how her politics matches up with your personal politics.

I'm so over this mudslingin sh*t ya'll.

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
132214 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 02:35 PM

63. "The Doc wouldn't see it as 'mad'"
In response to Reply # 48

but apparently, the "no/little experience" message is undercut by this pick

and no, the "vice president" is not who's being elected, but look at the swipe above -- some evangelicals didn't jump aboard until McCain picked a veep.

granted, The Doc thinks the ultra-conservative line Palin takes is enough to think she sucks (no innuendo)...she's Santorum in (ever-so-pretty) drag (no homo) as far as The Doc's concerned

this was a "shock" pick with some underlying strategy behind the shock, ITDO

McCain could have found a better way to shore up his "maverick" image than to "shock" like this

of course the GOP faithful will eat this bowl of dung as they have everything else

but if McCain really wanted to show "I ain't BUSH, MOTHERFUCKERS" he could have chosen someone with a more "true conservative" lean, and not someone who uses the smoke/mirrors of "social" conservatism to cloak more neo-con yes(wo)man behavior

The Doc won't even get into the "throwing a bone to Hillary Stans" argument

Palin would have been in a Bush/Cheney Cabinet

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lfresh
Member since Jun 18th 2002
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:53 AM

201. "if they are going to just NOW look into her background"
In response to Reply # 48

it was a desperate and last minute pick

which pretty much tells me
mccain is doing anything to win
a very bush like manouver
all trying to win
no thinking
no plan
and we all pay for the fuck ups
nope not again
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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:44 PM

49. "do you think this would have happened with Pawlenty?"
In response to Reply # 0

Or any of the other finalists? Male or female?

The Doc hasn't seen this much unified going in the entire political season...

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ACRG
Member since Aug 21st 2007
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:49 PM

54. "**"
In response to Reply # 49
Mon Sep-01-08 01:58 PM by ACRG

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iago
Member since May 22nd 2007
7282 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 01:46 PM

50. "we've got a palin anchor, an RNC anchor..."
In response to Reply # 0

and we've forgotten about the best political moment of our lifetimes.

if you're excited about obama, folks, be excited about obama.

sig: "you'll have a knapsack full of jack after taxes."

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mannmade
Member since Nov 21st 2002
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:50 PM

55. "i don't think anyone has forgotten at all"
In response to Reply # 50

I think it is the nature of the news cycle, what you see here. Most folks just want to keep up to date on the current events of the day. Don't over examine it. You'll just get one of those ice cream headaches.

"Worry is interest paid on taxes which never come due." -Dad

How can any man wear one face unto himself and another to the masses without one day asking himself which one is true?

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ACRG
Member since Aug 21st 2007
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:46 PM

51. "Time interview (swipe)"
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1837536,00.html

ime's Jay Newton Small interviewed Alaska Governor Sarah Palin by phone on Aug. 14, less than two weeks before her surprise selection as John McCain's running mate.

TIME: What got you involved in politics.

Palin: I studied journalism in college and always had an interest in the newsroom, which was of course so often focused on politics and government. I studied sports reporting, and that's how I started off in journalism. But even earlier than that, my dad was an elementary school teacher, so often our dinner-table conversations were about current events and about those things that an elementary school teacher teaches students � much about government and much about our nation, and so I had ingrained in me an interest in our government, how things worked. And then from there I just became more interested in more practical steps that I could take... started off running for city council when I was very young in the town where I had grown up and was elected to two terms on the city council. And then I realized to be really able to make a difference � not just being one of six of a body but to make a difference � I would have to run for the top dog position, and so I ran for mayor and was elected mayor for two terms.

Then from there I was appointed an oil and gas commissioner in the state of Alaska, on the Alaska oil and gas conservation commission, had decided that there were changes, positive changes, that had to be ushered into our state government, decided to run for governor and did so, was successful, and here we are.

How old were you when you ran for city council??

I think was 27 or 28, and then was elected mayor when I was 32.

Did being younger and being a woman gives you a better perspective on politics and government than a more traditional politician?

What's more of a challenge for me over the years being in elected office has been more the age issue rather than a gender issue. I've totally ignored the issues that have potentially been affecting me when it comes to gender because I was raised in a family where, you know, gender wasn't going to be an issue. The girls did what the boys did. Apparently in Alaska that's quite commonplace. You're out there hunting and fishing. My parents were coaches, so I was involved in sports all my life. So I knew that as woman I could do whatever the men were doing. Also that's just part of Alaskan life.

But the age issue I think was more significant in my career than the gender issue. Your resume not being as fat as your opponent's in a race, perhaps being able to capitalize on that... being able to to use that in campaigns � I don't have 30 years of political experience under my belt ... that's a good thing, that's a healthy thing. That means my perspective is fresher, more in touch with the people I will be serving. I would use that as an advantage. I've certainly never been part of a good old boy club. That I would use in a campaign. And that's been good.

The Republican party nationwide has a lot challenges. What ideas do you have to bring the party back, to gain back majorities in Congress, to change the platform to appeal to more people?

The planks in our party's platform � they're sound, they are solid. They are the right agenda for America. I know the Republican platform is right for my state in Alaska because the planks we can stand solidly on are respect for equality and respect for life and an acknowledgment that it is individual Americans and American families who can make better decisions for ourselves than government can ever make for us. So individual freedom and independence is extremely important to me and that's why I'm a Republican, and there are planks in our platform that reflect that.

What, on a real practical level here, the GOP has got to do, though, between now and the election, is to convince Americans that it is our energy policy that is best for our nation and the nation's future, that if we are to become energy independent and if we are to become a more secure nation then we had better start supplying our very, very hungry markets across the nation with American supplies of energy. And up here in Alaska we're sitting on billions of barrels of oil. We're sitting on hundreds of trillions of cubic feet of natural gas onshore and offshore. And it seems to be only the Republicans who understand that companies should be competing for the right to tap those resources, and get that energy source flowing into these hungry markets so that we will be less reliant on foreign sources of energy. In a volatile world, relying on foreign regimes that are not friendly to Americans, asking them to ramp up resource production for our benefit, that's nonsensical.

The GOP agenda to ramp up domestic supplies of energy is the only way that we are going to become energy independent, the only way that we are going to become a more secure nation. And I say this, of course, knowing the situation we are in right now � at war, not knowing what the plan is to ever end the war we are engaged in, understanding that Americans are seeking solutions and are seeking resolution in this war effort. So energy supplies and being able to produce and supply domestically is going to be a big part of that. And the GOP agenda is the right agenda in that respect, but the GOP is going to have to prove to Americans in following weeks that we can safely, responsibly and ethically develop these resources. That, of course, has been a problem for the GOP. And a problem up here in Alaska. We have state lawmakers serving time in prison right now... other lawmakers whom the FBI is probing right now... because they have been found, some, to be corrupt in oil and gas issues, having taken bribes. That does not bode well for the GOP. And that's gotta change.

What has been your crowning achievement in office so far?

We have protected our state sovereignty by taking on the big oil industry interests, making sure that there is not going to be any undue influence on the oil industry, that our state administration and our state lawmakers will be making the decisions we will be making... based on sound, solid, unbiased information, not being corrupted by, in the case that I'm speaking of now, oil service company's undue influence that has corrupted some lawmakers. We have set in place ethics laws, overseeing agencies and offices to make sure that never happens again in Alaska. So that's something we're very proud of. And we have allowed measures to be put in place now where we can prove very, very sound and strict oversight of oil and gas development so that we can prove to the rest of the nation that we are ready, willing and we are able to safely develop our resources. So that Alaska can be contributers, we can be producers, so we don't have to be takers from federal government. but can be supplying the rest of the U.S. with American resources finally.

Is there one particular moment or conversation that stands out in your mind where you said, I want to change things, I want to become a politician?

Not so much being a politician. I can't recall a conversation or a moment that I decided that. But knowing that I did want to make a difference. And knowing that my parents had filled in me and my sisters and my brother the desire to work hard and to seek to serve something greater than self. I attribute that passion in me to my parents because that's the way they have lived.... I think it was just in my upbringing, observing the way that my parents live ... as a schoolteacher � and the school secretary was my mom � and as coaches, volunteers in the community, and that to this day they're still helping out with students and kids and activities in Alaska. Just this general observation that's fulfilling, the actions that they take do make a difference, they make people's lives better. I did want to be a part of that. It was a given for my siblings and for me and, naturally, an expectation that we were to do that. So, now my siblings have ended up � one's an elementary school teacher, one's a pediatric hygienist (she's also worked in the dental industry)... we all have our little niches. I'm the only one who got into politics. My parents were never partisan. In fact I won't be surprised if most folks in my family are registered as either nonpartisan or independents. But just that sense of contributing to community has been very, very strong and a solid part of my foundation based on my upbringing.

You have five children. You must be incredibly busy.

I'm just very blessed. My husband loves being a dad as much as I love being a mom. I've got great help there. But also my immediate family and my extended family, for the most part, are Alaskans, they're here, helping with a network, a support system. I got a couple of aunts outside in Washington state too who are very, very helpful to me. So logistically speaking it's not impossible what I'm doing. I've got great assistance. And having big kids in addition to the little ones... the big kids help out so much with the little one.

I have a 19 year old who's getting ready to be deployed to Iraq. His striker brigade leaves on September 11 of this year. He's 19 and he'll be gone for a year. on a personal level, when I talk about the plan for the war, let's make sure we have a plan here. And respecting McCain's position on that too, though. And I have a daughter who will be 18 here shortly, another daughter 14, another daughter 7. My daughter just walked into my office. And I have a baby who is three months old. Trig was just born recently, And he's just an awesome sweet baby. Trig was born with Down Syndrome so this was a whole new ballgame for us, just understanding this very, very special child, who's such an awesome fit in our lives right now. It's just very nice and full life that we have right now...I knew while I was pregnant that he would be born with Down Syndrome. So I was as prepared as one could be.

Having a baby in office must be really challenging. Have your children influenced you in any way?

Absolutely, and because I have both boys and girls I have a greater respect for equality and making sure that gender is not an issue and that everyone is treated equally. Because my husband is Alaska native, my kids have provided me an opportunity to really respect the Alaska native heritage, the culture.

My son being in a striker brigade in the army has really opened my eyes to international events, and how war impacts everyday Americans like us when we have a child who chooses to enlist and to serve the right reasons. Certainly a child born with Down Syndrome has opened my eyes too to challenges that others have. Every American has a challenge. Every American has battles and bumps in the road in their lives. It's just really opened my eyes to a larger world than maybe what I had been used to.

Yeah, just a myriad of examples I can give and how being a mom changes my perspective. And education is very, very important to me because I have got kids today in the system, in the public school system. I want to make sure that we are adequately funded, but that we have high standards and accountability in our schools so that every public dollar is spent wisely. Because I walk into those schools on a regular basis and I want to make sure that our public schools are as good as they can be because my kids are a part of them.

Where do you see yourself going? Staying on in Alaska. Washington?

You know, I don't know. I knew early on that the smartest thing for me to do was to work hard, do the best that I can, make wise decisions based on good information in front of me. And then put my life, get myself on a path that could be dedicated to God and ask Him what I should next. That will be the position I will be in as long as I'm on earth � that is, seeking the right path that God would have laid out for me.

What's your religion?

Christian.

Any particular...?

No. Bible-believing Christian.

What church do you attend?

A non-denominational Bible church. I was baptized Catholic as a newborn and then my family started going to non-denominational churches throughout our life.

Anything else you want to add?

You know, I can't think of anything. Except here in Alaska my family is a microcosm of so much of Alaska. My husband is a commercial fisherman. He also works up in the north slopes in the oil fields. I'm the first female governor in Alaska, so that's brought with it kind of a whole new chapter in Alaska's life. Like my husband � up here they refer to him as the "first dude," not the first gentleman. And Todd... And he is such a dude. He's a four-time winner of the Iron Dog snow machine race, which is the the world's longest and they say toughest snow machine race, 2,000 miles across Alaska. A whole new chapter here when Todd is asked to do things like � and he graciously complies and he has a good time doing it � hosting, as he did a couple of weeks ago down in Juneau, our capital city, the former first ladies tea party. And he does just great at things like that, as well as working in oil fields, with snow machines and in commercial fishing. That's a dynamic here that's of interest to others. Again, sort of a microcosm of that... reflective of an Alaskan lifestyle that so many of us participate in.

I guess its almost natural then to think that women, because they stay in one place, might make better politicians in Alaska than men?

I hadn't thought of that. Lots of unconventional schedules up here. Our kids are very, very, very adaptable because they've grown up with unconventional schedules. With Todd's slope work, he works 700 miles away from home. And the commercial fishing. And I've got a busy schedule. They're very adaptable and well adjusted. Everything seems to work the way it's supposed to work. Thanks to my husband keeping things organized. Even from far away, he does.

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Phenomenality
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Mon Sep-01-08 02:01 PM

58. "I feel so bad for her...."
In response to Reply # 51

>Trig was born with Down Syndrome so this
>was a whole new ballgame for us, just understanding this very,
>very special child, who's such an awesome fit in our lives
>right now. It's just very nice and full life that we have
>right now...

---> "It's just very nice and full life that we have right now..."

*sigh*

poor thing.

~ Do Not Let this Universe Regret You ~

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SienaBlaze
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:52 PM

56. "What needs to stop"
In response to Reply # 0

I've seen many news outlets and bloggers comparing Palin to Obama. Why the hell are we doing that? Since when do we compare the presendtial nominee with the VP of the other party?

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J_Stew
Member since Jul 06th 2002
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Mon Sep-01-08 01:59 PM

57. "if this chick was a dem,the re's would paint her as the whore of babylon"
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ACRG
Member since Aug 21st 2007
3496 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 02:03 PM

59. "ON Creationism (SWIPE)"
In response to Reply # 0

http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html

'Creation science' enters the race
GOVERNOR: Palin is only candidate to suggest it should be discussed in schools.

By TOM KIZZIA
Anchorage Daily News

(Published: October 27, 2006)

The volatile issue of teaching creation science in public schools popped up in the Alaska governor's race this week when Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state's public classrooms.

Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

Her main opponents, Democrat Tony Knowles and Independent Andrew Halcro, said such alternatives to evolution should be kept out of science classrooms. Halcro called such lessons "religious-based" and said the place for them might be a philosophy or sociology class.

The question has divided local school boards in several places around the country and has come up in Alaska before, including once before the state Board of Education in 1993.

The teaching of creationism, which relies on the biblical account of the creation of life, has been ruled by the U.S. Supreme Court as an unconstitutional injection of religion into public education.

Last December, in a widely publicized local case, a federal judge in Pennsylvania threw out a city school board's requirement that "intelligent design" be mentioned briefly in science classes. Intelligent design proposes that biological life is so complex that some kind of intelligence must have shaped it.

In an interview Thursday, Palin said she meant only to say that discussion of alternative views should be allowed to arise in Alaska classrooms:

"I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.

Members of the state school board, which sets minimum requirements, are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Legislature.

"I won't have religion as a litmus test, or anybody's personal opinion on evolution or creationism," Palin said.

Palin has occasionally discussed her lifelong Christian faith during the governor's race but said teaching creationism is nothing she has campaigned about or even given much thought to.

"We're talking about the gas line and PERS/TERS," she said Thursday, referring to the proposed natural gas pipeline and public employee and teacher retirement systems.

The Republican Party of Alaska platform says, in its section on education: "We support giving Creation Science equal representation with other theories of the origin of life. If evolution is taught, it should be presented as only a theory."

The issue of teaching an alternative to evolution has turned into an issue in the current race for governor in Michigan, where Republican Dick DeVos said he wanted to see students exposed to the idea of intelligent design.

In 1993 in Alaska, several Board of Education appointees of Gov. Wally Hickel considered adding creation science to the board's list of recommended scientific concepts. The idea was proposed by a member of the school board who taught at a private Christian school in Fairbanks. It failed on a 3-3 tie, with one school board member absent.

In 2003 a curriculum reform panel recommended leaving evolution out of the state requirements to avoid controversy. Their recommendation was accepted by the state Department of Education, but the state board -- which had the final say -- reinserted the term.

Current state regulations allow local districts to add their own curriculum beyond the minimum state requirements, said Department of Education spokesman Eric Fry. That would arguably include some form of creation science, he said.

"They couldn't promote religion, but it's OK to teach about religion," Fry said.

But efforts to bring such lessons to the science classroom would likely be subject to the same kind of constitutional challenge that blew up into a national controversy in Dover, Pa., last year. After a six-week trial, a Republican judge appointed by President George W. Bush concluded that intelligent design "advanced a particular version of Christianity" and did not belong in class.

Judge John E. Jones III said Darwin's theory of evolution was imperfect. "However, the fact that a scientific theory cannot yet render an explanation on every point should not be used as a pretext to thrust an untestable alternative hypothesis grounded in religion into the science classroom."

Palin said she thought there was value in discussing alternatives.

"It's OK to let kids know that there are theories out there," she said in the interview. "They gain information just by being in a discussion."

That was how she was brought up, she said. Her father was a public school science teacher.

"My dad did talk a lot about his theories of evolution," she said. "He would show us fossils and say, 'How old do you think these are?' "

Asked for her personal views on evolution, Palin said, "I believe we have a creator."

She would not say whether her belief also allowed her to accept the theory of evolution as fact.

"I'm not going to pretend I know how all this came to be," she said.

Knowles was asked Thursday if he believed in a creator and, if so, how he reconciled that with evolution. Campaign spokeswoman Patty Ginsburg responded by e-mail: "Tony wants to stick by what he said last night -- creationism has no place in public school classrooms as an 'alternative' to evolution."

Libertarian gubernatorial candidate Billy Toien, the last candidate to answer the question about evolution at Wednesday's televised debate, posed a question of his own to moderator Michael Carey.

"My question is, who intelligently designed the intelligent designer?"

"I'm only the moderator, not a theologian," said Carey, moving on to the next topic.

Daily News reporter George Bryson contributed to this story. Contact reporter Tom Kizzia at tkizzia@adn.com.
� HALCRO: "I think anything that is religious-based in, in concept, you know, really should, needs to be taught in the proper channel -- philosophy, sociology. I don't think it should be taught as a science."

� KNOWLES: "... The answer is no. The reason why is we don't want politics in our science. We actually want more science in our politics. We don't want to just teach all things because it may be politically correct. We want to teach the best science there is, and there is overwhelming evidence, there's almost incontrovertible evidence that evolution is the science that, that we know. And that's what we should always teach, to never compromise on the principles just because it's politically popular."

� PALIN: "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. "Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution. It's been a healthy foundation for me. But don't be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides."

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Nukkapedia
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Mon Sep-01-08 02:49 PM

64. "Kids? Debate? Crationism and evolution? See, that's the....UGH."
In response to Reply # 59

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
132214 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 02:51 PM

65. "don't try to understand it"
In response to Reply # 64

it's like trying to perform Ivy Valentine's Summon Suffering on an XBOX360 Directional Pad.

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icecold21
Member since Jan 18th 2008
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:01 AM

172. "I agree with this"
In response to Reply # 59

>
>Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the
>conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM
>Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be
>afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and
>it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching
>both."

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Nukkapedia
Member since Apr 16th 2006
35461 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 08:26 AM

187. "yeah, and both you and Palin can go sit on it."
In response to Reply # 172

Creationism has no place in public education except when studying the beliefs of a given people in history class or in anthropology studies.

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babygirl_what
Member since Jan 28th 2006
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Mon Sep-01-08 02:22 PM

62. "http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223"
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223

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Yadgyu
Member since May 31st 2006
8856 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 02:56 PM

66. "Talk About Sarah Palin Here. Nothing else is important."
In response to Reply # 0

My Sarah Palin video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPbJV8hyaNM

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 03:07 PM

67. "Palin has three more scandals? (swipe)"
In response to Reply # 0

Wowser

Okay we know about this baby gate and trooper gate. But this woman just seems like a hothead with too much power in Alaska. U got only 2 months left and internet rumors will spread.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schmeltzer/for-america-mccain-must-d_b_122912.html

1. as Mayor of Wasilla, Palin canned the Police Chief and the Library Director for not supporting her campaign for Mayor. Palin never contended that these people weren't doing a good job. To her credit, I guess, she was up front that these good public servants were on the chopping block because they wouldn't support her campaign.

Palin faced a recall effort because of her decision, and eventually had to reinstate the Library Director, and came to an out of court settlement (a tacit admission of wrongdoing) with the Police Chief, basically paying him to go away.

2. Todd Palin, Sarah's husband, also had a say in hiring and firing decisions. A long-time aide to Sarah Palin, John Bitney, who was a childhood friend of hers, was unceremoniously dumped from his job. Apparently, he found out he was fired when his Blackberry stopped working, and when he called to see what the problem was, discovered he was no longer on state payroll.

His mistake? Bitney was dating the soon-to-be ex-wife of a friend of Todd Palin's. Todd Palin didn't like that insult to his pal, so he had Sarah fire her old friend, and long-time aide. Again, Sarah Palin never even tried to contend that Bitney was doing a bad job, and no one had charged that he was doing a bad job. He simply pissed off Todd Palin's friend, and his head rolled.

add'l links from Alaskan blog: http://www.andrewhalcro.com/shadow_governor

3. As Palin came into office, the state Creamery Board, after years of study, concluded that state-run Matanuska Maid Dairy was beyond saving, after years in the red despite heavy taxpayer subsidies. It recommended that the dairy be privatized, as the only way of rescuing the dairy, and saving Alaskans from giving tax dollars to a failing business that inflated dairy costs.

You would think that Palin, the so-called maverick cost cutter, would be thrilled. Nope. Instead, Palin fired the entire Board of Agriculture and Conservation, and replaced them with loyalists, who in turn installed themselves as the new Creamery Board. Palin contended that Mat Maid Dairy just needed better management, and these guys would do it. In short, like another person I know (hmmm...) Palin didn't like the expert's answers, so instead of dealing with the facts, she fired the experts to find "new facts."

Except not so much. Nearly $1 million in subsidies later, including $200,000 in Alaska tax dollars paid to farmers to dump raw milk into the ground,

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 03:41 PM

69. "EVEN WORSE, SHE WAS A DIRECTOR OF TED STEVEN'S P.A.C."
In response to Reply # 67

she was one of the founding directors of Ted Steven's 527 (political fundraising committee)...

why this is bad.

1. John McCain is on record saying that 527's need to be eliminated.

2. Ted Stevens in under investigation for corruption...

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:03 PM

70. "double whammy"
In response to Reply # 69

DAMN

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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Nukkapedia
Member since Apr 16th 2006
35461 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 04:55 PM

77. "it's becoming more and more clear she really was picked just"
In response to Reply # 67

because of her vagina.

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all stah
Member since Sep 03rd 2005
23470 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 05:03 PM

81. "now that's a low blow"
In response to Reply # 77
Mon Sep-01-08 05:03 PM by all stah

name me an honest politician?

There isnt one.

You guys are pulling up shit that is done by every politician in the world, and the biggest rule in the world:

"you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours."

every president has done dirt...every last one of them:

bush
clinton
bush
reagan
carter
nixon...I can go on and on and on

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:14 PM

84. "thats not the argument homie. The issue is McCain's decision-"
In response to Reply # 81

making.

Okay lets step back a bit from the drama.

And just say that you claimed that experience was the key in the election. And that your VP would help you govern. And that you have had health problems and would be the oldest president.

You picked a candidate with lil experience on the things you derided Obama for, but does have some executive experience. Although u dont have that. You don't fully investigate the person. You dont have the person on the national scene during the primaries to get this dirt out and squelch it.

No you pick her, then all this stuff comes out. And the stuff that comes out is counter to all your talking points about Palin and the republican foundation of family values.

Don't let the baby mama drama fool you.

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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all stah
Member since Sep 03rd 2005
23470 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 05:26 PM

86. "huh?"
In response to Reply # 84

she governs a state, no matter how small it is, 6000 people or whatever. Obama has never governed anyone.

She has dealt with healthcare. She has dealt with being commander and chief of a military, signing off on bills, etc. She has dealt with energy situations and managed tax issues for her state.

THat's experience ,little homie

Obama does not have any.

So what are you saying?

She is the perfect fit for VP...VP, not president.

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:27 PM

87. "a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't."
In response to Reply # 86

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all stah
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:30 PM

90. "RE: a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't."
In response to Reply # 87
Mon Sep-01-08 05:32 PM by all stah

but shes is more prepared than obama..lol

actually she has more governing experience then biden, obama and mccain

You cant turn away from that, fam

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:38 PM

92. "Her experience qualifies her to be an undersecretary of Energy"
In response to Reply # 90

specializing in Oil and Gas issues...

HER RESUME qualifies her to be on the Republican ticket.

Her experience governing (all 18 months of it) shows that she probably would be better off not holding office at all.

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ACRG
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:38 PM

93. "but it was only 600k alaskans"
In response to Reply # 90

and we know how low on the totem pole they are compared to other americans

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:42 PM

95. "SHE KNOWS SHIT ABOUT FOREIGN AFFAIRS first off"
In response to Reply # 90

i was gonna get cute with you. And concede that yes in 20 months she has governed a nation the size of a chicago suburb.

Even Gov. romney and Sebilus were in office longer but thats not the point.

Obama and Biden knows the ins and outs of Foreign policy, Education and compared to the Republicans health care. These issues they've discussed throughout there whole political lives. And the votes they have made in senate. They know the range of issues, have relationships with foreign leaders and are respected in terms of foreign policy--regardless of what McCain says.

The issues that most concern me, Obama and Biden aren't just reflective of my values. They have talked at length on the trail of what they have done and what they propose to do and where they stand.

I know what Obama has done about racial profiling, about child health care, about the GI bill, about predatory lending. Its out there. I can say "word that concerned you, you did something about it great"

She has no record besides standing up to corrupt politicians and she might be corrupt.

Her major accomplishment in Alaska is what? Has she brought any issue to the national attention as some governors? Getting more earmarks for Alaska althoug she claims she is a good reformer. Managing a budget, oh like leaving the town she Mayored in with enormous debt?
Or that when you were in charge there are accusations of corruption on four different issues.

She has no control or intel on Alaskan national guard. She says she "heard about the surge on the news" and that the war was about oil to some degree and hopefully her child would be safe." Thats her experience. Nothing about her says "oh thats a good point" She claimed to take down Stevens but raised money and defended him.

Its all shady. There are countless women who are pro-life and accomplished.

Or that when you were in charge there are accusations of corruption.

Now all that shit adds up to me as someone with a flaky resume.

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all stah
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:56 PM

98. "RE: SHE KNOWS SHIT ABOUT FOREIGN AFFAIRS first off"
In response to Reply # 95
Mon Sep-01-08 05:57 PM by all stah

so you're cool with a yellow senator that has marked present on 70 percent of the legislations that were passed his way?

He is yellow. He takes no sides and cant take a stand. He was the same was a law teacher, which was verified by his former students.

Obama is a great speaker, that he is, but I do not want that man near the big red button.Michelle has more weight.

At the same time, I am still split, and I am giving everyone a fair chance. But obama's lack of experience and his undeniable sense of going gray are just too strong to roll with.

I see too much Jimmy Carter in him, and I love jimmy, but jimmy was yellow as hell.

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murphdogg
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Mon Sep-01-08 06:33 PM

100. "RE: a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't."
In response to Reply # 90

>but shes is more prepared than obama..lol
>
>
>actually she has more governing experience then biden, obama
>and mccain
>
>
>You cant turn away from that, fam
>
>
>

A conservative (David Frum) at The Atlantic disagrees with you...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/

01 Sep 2008 04:31 pm

"Can we conservatives please stop kidding ourselves about Barack Obama's "qualifications"? Yes, if I had been a Democratic donor back in 2006, I'd sure worry about whether Barack Obama had what it took to be president. That was before he took on the toughest political operation in America, before he beat Bill and Hillary Clinton, before he won 18 million primary votes.

Obama's nomination was not handed to him. He fought hard for it and won against the odds. "Qualifications" predict achievement. Once you have achieved, it doesn't matter what your qualifications are. Who cares whether the guy who built a big company from nothing didn't have much of a resume when he started? But if you are applying to run a big company built by somebody else, the resume matters ...

The worst mistake in any fight is to under-estimate your opponent's abilities. Look what happened to the people who under-estimated Reagan. If conservatives are to have any hope in the coming weeks, we should wake up to the fact that we face in Barack Obama a formidable man, who appeals to something important and deep in the American electorate. He's not a superman, he has vulnerabilities, he can be beaten. But he won't be beaten until we who are trying to beat him understand why and how he has come so far,"- --David Frum, NRO.

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jane eyre
Member since Jan 16th 2007
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:24 PM

155. "RE: a VP has to be prepared to lead...she isn't."
In response to Reply # 90
Mon Sep-01-08 11:28 PM by jane eyre

>but shes is more prepared than obama..lol

well if the standard for preparation is gubernatorial experience....

our current president was governor of texas from 1995-2000. i think it's difficult to make the argument that his "experience" prepared him for being president or somehow made him a more capable president.

in fact, if it were possible, i doubt most americans would even want bush to be v.p., if we were to take into consideration his governership and 8 year presidency as a voucher for the position.

if mccain wants to say that someone with palin's level of experience is ok to be v.p., and by implication, president, then he should stop saying that obama isn't ready to be president, especially on grounds that she's got executive experience that he (obama) doesn't have. as soon as he brings that up, mccain is in danger of throwing himself in the same boat as obama. it's a boat that he's made a big deal about in his political ads. in that case, he should also be a good patriot, and for the sake of our country, switch the ticket and let palin be the presidential candidate.

being a governor isn't a reliable barometer about presidential performance or success.

>actually she has more governing experience then biden, obama
>and mccain

i'm not so convinced that governing experience is relevant to this election or relevant to how we should decide what direction our country needs to think about going.

mccain, biden, and obama have more legislative experience than she does. it's become painfully apparent over the last 8 years that it matters if the president has respect for the legislative process, has an understanding of the relationship between the executive and legislative, and has some finesse for navigating it.

the pickle that the country is in, in many ways, is a constitutional and legislative crisis....forced to a point by the executive. i don't have a problem with a senator becoming president.

it's not unheard of that we've had presidents who weren't governors. notably, we've had jfk and abraham lincoln. eisenhower wasn't a legislator or a governor.

i think experience (and record) as a public servant on a state or national level is more important than in what capacity a person serves.

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all stah
Member since Sep 03rd 2005
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:51 PM

166. "wait, obama having legislative experience???"
In response to Reply # 155

you gotta be shitting me?

Tell me you are?

Jesus

The man never made a stand on a legislation. he marked present on damn near everything that came his way, hence the term yellow senator.

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:44 PM

96. "also if u read the post i wasn't comparing experience"
In response to Reply # 86
Mon Sep-01-08 05:46 PM by Mr Mystery

i was calling out McCain for choosing a candidate that is counter to his previous platform. I wasn't comparing trying to compare but point out what people are bothered by. Its the fact that they contradict themselves when they say she was in PTA and was the mayor of a 9k town to debunk Obama. And that this was a knee jerk reaction because obviously she has mad dirt on her

but u can run on with your SHE's A GOVERNOR and ignore the rest

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nonseq
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Mon Sep-01-08 09:58 PM

144. "ah yes, good ole cronyism a la Bush...yes men>competence"
In response to Reply # 67

the Republican way in the modern era.

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Wordup
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Mon Sep-01-08 03:16 PM

68. "WOw @ Huffingtonpost"
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

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Majhik101
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:24 PM

71. "it's "IN" season over there lol"
In response to Reply # 68

a fuckin' field day for the left.

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gluvnast
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Mon Sep-01-08 06:52 PM

103. "payback's a bitch considering whut obama went thru"
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13Rose
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:25 PM

72. "John McCain giving his VP some eye contact VIDEO LINK"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN5xbWtNSU&feature=email

Poor old man trying to get his Viagra on.

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Tue Sep-02-08 09:52 PM

332. "squawk!"
In response to Reply # 72

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all stah
Member since Sep 03rd 2005
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:41 PM

73. "She can come and get good dyck"
In response to Reply # 0
Mon Sep-01-08 04:47 PM by all stah

from this bad, bad artist any day.

Fuck the politico and the payola for gasola, Im out to fuck republican female vps.

the sig is yours!

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jose3030
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:51 PM

74. "Another movie, coming out *PIC"
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http://entertainmentweakly.com/juneau.jpg

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Adwhizz
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:03 PM

82. "WIN!"
In response to Reply # 74

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

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al_sharp
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:28 PM

88. "oh wow...lol."
In response to Reply # 74

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sunshine_dawkins
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Tue Sep-02-08 07:33 PM

328. "A+ posting"
In response to Reply # 74

i feel so sorry for her daughter

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:51 PM

75. "BRISTOL PALIN IS ALREADY MARRIED????:"
In response to Reply # 0
Mon Sep-01-08 04:52 PM by Castro

From Alternet:

http://tinyurl.com/6axn7g

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Nukkapedia
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:53 PM

76. "...wait, what?"
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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:57 PM

78. "that is supposedly her on the right, and the one on the left"
In response to Reply # 76

is her sis in law.

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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:56 PM

99. "they set the profile to private..."
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Expertise
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Mon Sep-01-08 04:58 PM

79. "Um, yall make dozens of Obama posts in a week."
In response to Reply # 0
Mon Sep-01-08 05:01 PM by Expertise

Yet with Palin, there's a problem.

Fuck outta here. And I still want an explanation for why you idiots locked my thread last night for no reason.
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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:02 PM

80. "^^^^^^eating spam sandwich with ovaltine at the libertarian treehouse"
In response to Reply # 79

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tonywashington
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:04 PM

83. "I don't know who locked your post but..."
In response to Reply # 79

there were over 10 Palin post on the front page this morning. It was getting out of hand.

-T
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Expertise
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:34 PM

91. "but 10 Obama posts are fine?"
In response to Reply # 83
Mon Sep-01-08 05:36 PM by Expertise

I mean, it and of itself it doesn't matter to me because most of those are threads that's grasping for a reason to hate the woman to make them feel better about Obama's disappearing hopes.

But I looked at some of the ones locked last night, and it's the ones that are positive towards Palin or critical of Obama that are oftentimes locked. Mine, all stah, Binlahab's....interesting how that turns out, huh? And it's not at if there's a lot of those out there, which makes them stand out even more. And then the little bitch that locks them doesn't even try to explain themselves.
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Castro
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:42 PM

94. "honestly, I feel you on getting your post deleted..."
In response to Reply # 91

so I won't clown you on that...

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Kevan
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:49 PM

97. "Okayplayer officially endorses Obama"
In response to Reply # 91

this happens all the time in the activist forum too

no matter what any mod says, this is the reason for the locks

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tonywashington
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Mon Sep-01-08 07:24 PM

107. "Please stop..."
In response to Reply # 97
Mon Sep-01-08 07:25 PM by tonywashington

There is no one on the Okayplayer staff telling any mod how to mod when it comes to the Presidential race. If things look to be getting out of control mods step in and try to slow things down. Do we catch everything? No. If the Okayplayer staff were trying to protect Obama do you really think they would let 3X post all of the post that he has been posting?

Everything is not a conspiracy theory.

-T
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tonywashington
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Mon Sep-01-08 07:19 PM

106. "Most of the time I am not here during the day..."
In response to Reply # 91

I am mostly here in the evening so I can't speak on the 10 plus Obama post. If I was here and there were 10 plus Obama post I would consolidate them too.

I know during the Democratic Convention there was a lot of consolidation going on.

Over the past 4 days 42 post have been made about Palin in some form or fashion. This doesn't include the duplicates or others that have been deleted today or on previous days. 14 of those 42 post were locked. Of those 14 three of those were supposed positives. Considering how many post have been made about her over the past 4 days I think the mods have been very lenient.

-T
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al_sharp
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:08 PM

115. "^^^WAH!!!"
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Airbreed
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:25 AM

"shut the fuck up already."
Tue Sep-02-08 09:26 AM by Airbreed

and stop complaining.

jesus.

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al_sharp
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:29 PM

89. "^^^WAH!!!"
In response to Reply # 79

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now or never
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:47 PM

229. "you're a fucking idiot."
In response to Reply # 79

and i'm from north carolina
i know you're type of idiot very well

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tonywashington
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Mon Sep-01-08 05:22 PM

85. "Palin hires attorney for Troopergate investigation"
In response to Reply # 0

This is crazy how much news can come out on one day.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h7VIY5GfDmjy-A5HsGLuHvA0SHtgD92U6DS00
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) � Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, has hired a private practice attorney to defend her in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.

The Legislature is investigating whether Palin fired public safety commissioner Walt Monegan after he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister.

The governor's decision to hire the attorney was disclosed by the Legislature's investigating committee on Monday, not by Gov. Palin's office. The committee released an e-mailed letter it had received from Palin's new lawyer on Friday, the day McCain announced she would be his running mate.

"We have been hired to represent the Governor and the Governor's Office" in the investigation, Anchorage attorney Thomas V. Van Flein wrote. "We fully welcome a fair inquiry into these allegations. ... Please know that we intend to cooperate with this investigation."

Van Flein requested a copy of all witness statements and documentary evidence from the Legislature's investigator, Stephen Branchflower. Sen. Hollis French, an Anchorage Democrat who heads the panel, said he has instructed Branchflower not to comply with the request.

In July, a legislative oversight committee approved $100,000 to investigate whether Palin abused her power in firing Monegan.

This political he-said, she-said has dogged Palin for nearly two months and is likely to do so for another two months leading to the Nov. 4 presidential election.

The little-known vice presidential candidate faces accusations of firing public safety commissioner Walt Monegan in what amounts to a messy Palin family drama dating to her pre-gubernatorial days.

The accuser is blogger and rental car executive Andrew Halcro, a Republican-turned-Independent who lost to Palin in the 2006 governor's race.

The accused is Palin, the rising Republican star with a clean-hands reputation who has the most to lose.

The man in the middle is former commissioner, Monegan, who says Palin never told him to fire the trooper, but he felt pressure to do so from members of her administration.

Then there's trooper Mike Wooten, who used a Taser on his stepson, Palin's nephew Payton. Wooten has been reprimanded for violating nearly a dozen laws and departmental policies since December 2001.

It's now in the hands of a state-hired investigator working for a Republican-dominated legislative committee that hopes to sort out the mess.

Palin steadfastly denies the allegations, and with her signature resolve, said she welcomes the investigation. "Hold me accountable," she challenge her critics.

With Palin now in the national spotlight as McCain's choice as running mate, the investigation could get more attention than the federal corruption probes involving Republican Sen. Ted Stevens and others that already is besetting this state.

"With this appointment, you've given an obscure investigation more national limelight than any grand jury," said Democratic consultant Dane Strother. "Think about it, if they come down on her, what is McCain going to do?"

McCain's campaign says it's not worried about the investigation. "The bottom line is Governor Palin has a proven record championing transparency in government and we are confident in that record," said McCain spokeswoman Maria Comella.

Monegan was fired in July, after he declined a transfer to become the director to the state's alcohol control board.

At the time Palin said she wanted the department to move in a new direction. But later, after Monegan said he felt pressured to fire Wooten, Palin at a news conference said Monegan wasn't a team player, didn't do enough to fill trooper vacancies and battle alcohol abuse issues in rural Alaska.

State lawmakers have long said they understand that Monegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time.

But they want to know if Palin abused her power with the potential motives of this firing being personal rather than work-related.

It began with a July 17 blog posting from Halcro, whose accusations gained momentum when Monegan publicly said he felt pressure from Palin's administration to fire Wooten.

A few days later, the state approved $100,000 to hire an outside investigator, Branchflower, a former Anchorage prosecutor, to look into the firing.

Monegan could not be reached for comment, but he recently told the Anchorage Daily News that he was never directly told by Palin or anyone to fire Wooten. But he maintained that Palin, members of her administration and her husband, Todd Palin, raised the issue about Wooten's employment numerous times.

A month after Monegan was dismissed, Palin revealed that at least two dozens calls were made from her staff members to Department of Public Safety officials, also questioning Wooten's employment. But she denied orchestrating the calls.

One of those took place between Frank Bailey, Palin's director of boards and commissions, and an Alaska state trooper serving as a liaison to the Legislature.

In the recorded conversation, Bailey is heard saying: "Todd and Sarah are scratching their heads, why on earth hasn't, why is this guy still representing the department? He's a horrible recruiting tool. ... You know, I mean from their perspective, everyone's protecting him."

Palin has said she had no knowledge of the call, and Bailey told The Associated Press that he made the call without direction from anyone.

This investigation is separate from a higher profile federal probe of corruption of Alaska politics.

Stevens, the longest serving Republican in U.S. Senate history, faces trial later this month for allegedly lying on federal disclosure forms to hide $250,000 in gifts from VECO Corp. The state's only congressman, Rep. Don Young, also is under investigation. Five former and current state lawmakers have either been sentenced to federal prison or await trial on bribery and conspiracy charges.

This investigation into Monegan's dismissal has more than its share of subplots as well. The probe into Palin's involvement if any was ordered by a Republican-dominated state legislative council that includes one of the lawmakers under a federal bribery indictment. And Branchflower, the investigator, is a former Anchorage prosecutor whose wife used to work for Monegan at the Anchorage Police Department.

Wooten did not a return message left Sunday on his cell phone by The Associated Press.

-T
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"rick ross got old african woman swag" (c)nayaa

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HueyShakur
Member since Aug 22nd 2003
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:09 AM

210. "HOLD THE DAMN PHONE!"
In response to Reply # 85

so she's being investigated for supposedly pressuring the state's public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law - a man who tased her nephew and has been reprimanded for violating nearly a dozen laws and departmental policies since December 2001 - because the dude she beat in the primary accused her of it on his blog?

WTF?!

i mean, even if her office did put pressure on the public safety commissioner his ass CLEARLY should have been fired because he kept folks on the force that had repeated violated policy.

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Cocobrotha2
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Mon Sep-01-08 06:35 PM

101. "Evangelical with a pregnant teen daughter? Sounds like the Bible Belt"
In response to Reply # 0

to me.

The funny thing is that evangelicals are probably going to judge her less harshly than many on her because a) many probably identify with her issue and b)it wouldn't affect her ability to push their agenda.

McCain's keeping her on the ticket.

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gluvnast
Member since Nov 19th 2006
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Mon Sep-01-08 06:48 PM

"the FUCK? cambell brown playing hardball"

she's killing this this dude on whut foreign policy experience palin has....

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gluvnast
Member since Nov 19th 2006
2367 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 06:48 PM

102. "the FUCK? cambell brown playing hardball"
In response to Reply # 0

she's killing this this dude on whut foreign policy experience palin has....

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sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
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Mon Sep-01-08 07:04 PM

105. "YES"
In response to Reply # 102

She killed his ass
he was damn near sweating cause he didn't have an answer to none of the questions she was throwing at him

He's gonna be in trouble for that

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:23 PM

120. "Is this on youtube yet?!!! Campbell rides for Hillary she heated"
In response to Reply # 105

HA HA

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murphdogg
Member since Mar 02nd 2008
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Mon Sep-01-08 06:52 PM

104. "RE: Talk About Sarah Palin Here."
In response to Reply # 0

Folks pooh poohing this Palin shit don't get it...Whether you are for Mccain or for Obama or u want to vote for your pet goldfish you can't brush over the point that J.M. may be showing a bit of ill-timed, fucked up decision making skills...

I could care less if Palin's daughter is pregnant...That shit means little only if u r going after the "social conservative" card that the GOP have been playing throughout...

But as a voter I do care that there seems so be a flood on info coming out about the Vice Presidential candidate...It's clear that Palin has not been vetted completely, which may say a lot of about how McCain runs his Presidential ship...

I think Andrew Sullivan (The Atlantic have been on point about this for the most part) had it right..

"...if it turns out that the next two months transform Palin into a national laughingstock with no future outside Alaska, I won't be terribly happy with John McCain's decision-making process. I intend to wait slightly longer than 48 hours, though, before I pass judgment on that question.It seems to me this is excessively generous to McCain. The bottom line is that he obviously hadn't vetted this person in any halfway competent fashion. McCain's first major presidential decision was rash, impulsive, ill-researched and foisted on the world with no warning. With this decision, McCain clearly wanted to indicate that he was breaking with Bush. But the manner in which he made it proves he truly is Bush's third term - just more reckless."

And that's the bottom line...The irony is all this may be moot...Because the fact that Obama has not been able to explode out to a bigger poll lead on McCain, a 70 plus year old man, coming off of skin cancer, who has basically made enough public flubs to sink any candidate (and now this Palin business), speaks volumes about the mental state of this country...To me this shows that America may not be ready to deal with the prospect of electing a black man into the highest office...That to me says a lot...

murph71

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Majhik101
Member since Sep 05th 2007
1482 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 07:37 PM

112. "PEOPLE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
In response to Reply # 104

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58impala
Member since Nov 08th 2004
16633 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:06 PM

130. "^^^^this is important, mos def underrated*"
In response to Reply # 104

*judging by the lack of replys

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Bombastic
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:50 AM

178. "cotdamn murph, that was some deep shit there"
In response to Reply # 104

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

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13Rose
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:25 AM

215. "speak on it God (c) Lord Jamar"
In response to Reply # 104

on an unrelated note Spinna played I Can't Let Her Get Away at the Prince Vs MJ joint. Thanks for putting me on to that jam sir.

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murphdogg
Member since Mar 02nd 2008
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:20 AM

218. "RE: speak on it God (c) Lord Jamar"
In response to Reply # 215

>on an unrelated note Spinna played I Can't Let Her Get Away
>at the Prince Vs MJ joint. Thanks for putting me on to that
>jam sir.

Thanks for the kind words sir...

That's my shit...Just one hard groove...i don't even understand what MJ is saying in that song...lol...But it's funky...

Yeah, I'm pissed I couldn't make it out this year...How was it?

murph71

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e dubb
Member since Jun 10th 2002
10666 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 06:30 PM

319. "Noteworthy response^^^^^^^^^^^^"
In response to Reply # 104

Hip-hop happens,
EBONY
<<<<<<<self portrait

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gwycliff
Member since Aug 23rd 2006
1867 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 07:27 PM

108. "... i'd smash"
In response to Reply # 0

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LadyA
Member since Apr 03rd 2005
8573 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 07:31 PM

109. "WOW CAMBELL BROWN IS GIVING HER THE BUSINESS"
In response to Reply # 0

even her face is like, WTF are you talking about.

WE DID IT

Keep It Moving

Would you advise your son/daughter to do what you just posted?

http://sunfresh08.wordpress.com/

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SunDevil
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Mon Sep-01-08 07:34 PM

110. "."
In response to Reply # 109

lol @ cambell browns facial expressions during that interview.

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squeeg
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Mon Sep-01-08 07:40 PM

113. "I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that"
In response to Reply # 109

She was killing it. Great job!

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liveguy
Member since Jan 01st 2004
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:26 PM

121. "dude could not...would not answer the question she raised."
In response to Reply # 109

I love me some Campbell for that.

These republicans are getting the bidness on Larry King Live too....

I'm loving it!

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:37 PM

"I got the Video!! /Campbell summed up my whole argument"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYYiw_y2qDI

PASS IT ON!

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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liveguy
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:41 PM

126. "dude dont sonned in the worst way...tried to change the subject..lmao"
In response to Reply # 0

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:53 PM

127. "I'M JUST CURIOUS!?"
In response to Reply # 126

Nas would be proud

God is my Bodyguard!

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58impala
Member since Nov 08th 2004
16633 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:09 PM

132. "campbell gets brownie points with me"
In response to Reply # 0

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Natural Mystic
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:13 AM

168. "Thank you so much for this video."
In response to Reply # 0

______

'no. you dont understand.

i aint SCARED of you motherfuckers.' � Bernie Mac

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analog2digital
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:25 AM

197. "OG Russertdogg is smilin"
In response to Reply # 109

his protege bringing that fire

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LadyA
Member since Apr 03rd 2005
8573 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 07:51 PM

114. "Newest news: Palin belonged to an Alaskan Sessionist Independent Party"
In response to Reply # 0

This shit just keeps getting better.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/members-of-frin.html

WE DID IT

Keep It Moving

Would you advise your son/daughter to do what you just posted?

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:22 PM

119. "Video proof (Swipe)"
In response to Reply # 114

Palin And The Alaska Independence Party

01 Sep 2008 07:53 pm
The Alaska Independence Party calls itself the third largest organization in the United States. Its platform calls for the defense of "states rights," to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution."

Basically, the AIP wants a vote on secession. According to the organizations' website. "hough it is widely thought to be a secessionist movement, the Party makes great effort to emphasize that its primary goal is merely a vote on secession, something that Party advocates say Alaskans were denied during the founding of the state."

The AIP says that Gov. Sarah Palin used to be a member of the party. Earlier this year, Palin recorded a welcoming address to the AIP's convention.
From Marc Ambinder:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI&eurl=http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

Her greeting is innocuous enough. And an Alaskan political consultant tells me that the AIP is a marginally accepted part of the political culture there.

At the AIP's meeting, the AIP's vice chairman, Dexter Carter, extols Gov. Palin's virtues. He recalls Palin's service as a member of the party at about six minutes in to this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFY1otOWjQ&eurl=http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

Mr, Carter says that AIP members must "infiltrate" -- his words -- the other two parties and push for the cause of Alaskan independence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9RDjKN8t4w&eurl=http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

Favorite quote we dont say to foreigners we're Americans, we say we're Alaskans!"

A McCain spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.

Bonus link to the AIP website. My favorite quote: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
27996 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 08:30 PM

123. "I am just fucking SPEECHLESS right now"
In response to Reply # 119

that video was in 2008... this fucking year with her supporting another party

Yall should see my face... I'm bright red with laughter
what the fuck? just what the fuck????

OMG

just what the fuck?

I can not stop laughing
between this and cnn I'm going to combust

It just will NOT stop!

aaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! oh shit, LMAO

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:39 PM

125. "I'm thinking i must be super high. She was a member too"
In response to Reply # 123

and they say the job is to inflitrate the political parties. And she's always talking about even as VP its good for alaska. HAHAHA!

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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Villain
Member since Jun 19th 2005
8439 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 10:14 PM

147. "lmao"
In response to Reply # 123

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liveguy
Member since Jan 01st 2004
8002 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 08:28 PM

122. "oh WOW!!!!"
In response to Reply # 114

lol....

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58impala
Member since Nov 08th 2004
16633 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 08:53 PM

128. "jesus... this by far is one hell of election season"
In response to Reply # 114

shit its like watching a daytime tv soap drama

not to be cliche, but with the way this is going mccain is probably be a repeat of bush in terms of political appointments

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Nukkapedia
Member since Apr 16th 2006
35461 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 12:06 AM

167. "oh, MY damn."
In response to Reply # 114

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lfresh
Member since Jun 18th 2002
92696 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 09:55 AM

203. "for the indigenous people of alaska??"
In response to Reply # 114

i thought not
next
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Harmonia
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:37 AM

219. "exactly"
In response to Reply # 203

get the fuck outta here with that bullshit!

alot of alaska still belongs to native alaskan villages (up there they're called villages, not reservations)

it's like quebec wanting to become its own nation even though much of quebec is the cree nation.

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theprofessional
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8761 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 04:10 PM

270. "hard to get more unpatriotic than that"
In response to Reply # 114

i mean, wanting to break from the united states completely? thank you again for not vetting your VP pick, senator mccain. another issue off the table.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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Nettrice
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:18 PM

117. "*runs willy-nilly around this response in orange leotard and body paint*"
In response to Reply # 0

SLAP!

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

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firestarter
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Mon Sep-01-08 08:19 PM

118. "POWER: McCain having to RESPOND to Obama with his pick"
In response to Reply # 0

The fact that McCain couldn't pick the "best person" for the job and had to go with Pallin is sad on McCain's part and a Power Point for the Black Man.

Go B.O. Git bizy It's ya birthday!!!

That's cool in and of itself.

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liveguy
Member since Jan 01st 2004
8002 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 08:37 PM

124. "lmao....they going hard on Larry King live tonight."
In response to Reply # 0
Mon Sep-01-08 08:49 PM by liveguy

I honestly fell sorry for her.

She wasn't vetted at all and it's obvious.

I still think Trig is her daughters too.

Poor Bristol.

Palin needs to just drop out before it gets worse....cause it will.

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eclipsedInI
Member since Jul 29th 2002
92867 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:05 PM

129. "so when can the comparisons to grandmama Lohan start?"
In response to Reply # 0

hell grandma Spears also

mccain compared him to brit & paris

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Villain
Member since Jun 19th 2005
8439 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:19 PM

133. "wow, this is an absolute fiasco. it's still possible that she'll be aig..."
In response to Reply # 0

(in the sense that all things are possible) but uh...she doesn't seem to be helping. She's helping energize the evangelical base, and that's good for McCain (and probably signals a personal move to the center by him). However, the first polls indicate that she has a negative effect on Hillary voters. Also, her wingnuttiness will turn off independents.

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Lord_Vingtune
Member since Jun 26th 2002
29554 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:23 PM

134. "Undecided voters polled, dislike Palin choice by 2-1 margin (swipe)"
In response to Reply # 0

Focused--The Sequel

Another week, another Frank Luntz/AARP focus group of undecided voters--this one in Minneapolis and with some bad news for John McCain: they don't like the choice of Sarah Palin for vice president. Only one person said Palin made him more likely to vote for McCain; about half the 25-member group raised their hands when asked if Palin made them less likely to vote for McCain. They had a negative impression of Palin by a 2-1 margin...a fact that was reinforced when they were given hand-dials and asked to react to Palin's speech at her first appearance with McCain on Friday---the dials remained totally neutral as Palin went through her heart-warming(?) biography, and only blipped upwards when she said she opposed the Bridge to Nowhere--which wasn't quite the truth, as we now know.

Then there was this, from a woman named Teresa, who went to the Democratic Convention as a Hillary delegate and is leaning toward voting for McCain--obviously the target audience for the Palin pick: "His age didn't really bother me until he picked Palin. What if he dies in office and leaves us with her as President? Also she leans toward the rigid right, and I always thought he was a moderate...You know, I change my mind almost every day, but right now I"m wondering where the John McCain I really liked in 2000 went, what happened to the moderate? This John McCain has the look of someone who is being manipulated--probably by Karl Rove."

Teresa still wasn't willing to vote for Obama, whom she considers too inexperienced, but she was clearly wavering. Afterwards Luntz, good Republican that he is, made the case that Palin could win all these people back with a good convention speech, but that seemed far-fetched to me. They really saw this pick as a gimmick--and one that reflected badly on John McCain's judgment.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/focusedthe_sequel.html
"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it"

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ACRG
Member since Aug 21st 2007
3496 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 12:29 AM

171. "what kind of undecided voters?"
In response to Reply # 134

because an undecided dem is different than an undecided repub

o00o

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liveguy
Member since Jan 01st 2004
8002 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:24 PM

135. "I laughed OUT LOUD at the Barack interview on AC 360 tonight at the end"
In response to Reply # 0

Her city has 50 employees....my campaign has 2500.

Basically he said..."Is this a joke?"

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abby
Member since Oct 19th 2004
65215 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:25 PM

136. "lol. tobi was telling me about that earlier."
In response to Reply # 135

lol

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 09:32 PM

138. "He even grinned like "you know you done fucked up right?""
In response to Reply # 135

lol

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 09:30 PM

137. "Obama ETHERS PALIN on the low (I'm clapping!!)"
In response to Reply # 0
Mon Sep-01-08 09:31 PM by Mr Mystery

Anderson Cooper is interviewing Obama about Katrina. While Obama commends the admin so far, he still calls them out for Katrina infrastructure faults and praises legislation he helped pass on family location systems after Katrina.

Then Cooper asks "what do you say to republicans who say you're not experienced in these situations and that gov. Palin a former mayor and governor of Alaska

Obama: (Smiling) Well if i'm correct she was the mayor of a town of 9000, with a budget of 12 and 25 employees . I manage over 2500 people and 12k is less than what we spend in a month. I think i've proven in this campaign i can run an organization. Moreover, i think the ideas i introduced in legislation, in regards to Katrina and the subsequent response to come over to our ideas demonstrates my understanding and ability with such situations.

He could of mentioned how he's been campaigning as long as she's been governing or that he represents a state with districts bigger there her on.
DEAD!

God is my Bodyguard!

Torn between saturday night and early sunday morn, I don't know i'm somewhere stuck in between(tween)!-Dre 3000

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JCass
Member since Jun 10th 2003
1111 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:37 PM

139. "But you have to tell the way he said it, though"
In response to Reply # 137

She had an annual budget of 12 million. My campaign has a budget of 3 times that amount... in a month.

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KosherSam
Member since Mar 18th 2004
70132 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:46 PM

141. "actually, i thought that was a poor choice of things to say"
In response to Reply # 137

they are pointing out her (limited) experience as an executive in charge of a government, and the only thing he can point to as being in charge of is his campaign?

didn't seem like a good move to me.

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

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gluvnast
Member since Nov 19th 2006
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Mon Sep-01-08 09:50 PM

143. "well considering he has more people in his campaign than..."
In response to Reply # 141

the entire alaskan population....all built across the nation with an extremely larger budget and is ran smoothly, almost flawlessly under his command...

the question of leadership shouldn't even BE a question...he even got the DNC to fall in line, whereas mccain is being puppeted to conservative talk radio

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KosherSam
Member since Mar 18th 2004
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Mon Sep-01-08 10:02 PM

145. "nevertheless, it's still a campaign"
In response to Reply # 143

he shouldn't be comparing his leadership of his campaign to someone's being governor of a state, no matter how small their population is, or how little their budget.

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 10:06 PM

146. "but he can't let people dismiss his exec. experience and work"
In response to Reply # 145

in Senate. Maybe he said it in a haughty manner. Now that may not be smart. And Republicans might say oh he's talking crazy. But pundits and voters have said that he his campaign was evidence that he had better exec expertise than HRC.

i'm just saying

God is my Bodyguard!

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sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
27996 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 10:40 PM

149. "why not?"
In response to Reply # 145

Everyone is watching how both candidates run their campaign and the decisions they make regarding it to compare it to how they will govern

That's nothing new
why is it not acceptable now?

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poetx
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Mon Sep-01-08 10:50 PM

150. "harvard law review has a larger staff and dealt with more money."
In response to Reply # 145

but the AC question was specific to hurricane gustav.

peace & blessings,

x.

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liveguy
Member since Jan 01st 2004
8002 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 10:18 PM

148. "the point was she is small beans. His lil campaign sons her whole life."
In response to Reply # 141

The end.

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used to be abby
Member since Jun 12th 2006
11111 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 09:06 AM

193. "^"
In response to Reply # 148

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Oh abby. The perfect mix of class and crunk"~Goldmind

DEEZ HOES HELL

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Natural Mystic
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posts

Tue Sep-02-08 12:14 AM

169. "HERE WE GO:"
In response to Reply # 137

>Obama: (Smiling) Well if i'm correct she was the mayor of a
>town of 9000, with a budget of 12 and 25 employees . I manage
>over 2500 people and 12k is less than what we spend in a
>month. I think i've proven in this campaign i can run an
>organization. Moreover, i think the ideas i introduced in
>legislation, in regards to Katrina and the subsequent response
>to come over to our ideas demonstrates my understanding and
>ability with such situations.
>
>He could of mentioned how he's been campaigning as long as
>she's been governing or that he represents a state with
>districts bigger there her on.
>DEAD!

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'no. you dont understand.

i aint SCARED of you motherfuckers.' � Bernie Mac

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gluvnast
Member since Nov 19th 2006
2367 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:43 PM

140. "palin was in an alaskan succession party???"
In response to Reply # 0

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/members-of-frin.html

Members of 'Fringe' Alaskan Independence Party Say Palin Was a Member in 90s
September 01, 2008 6:52 PM

The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., likes to herald the independence of its new running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.

And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."

Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.

"We are a state's rights party," says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."

She says it's not accurate to describe the party as secessionist -- they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.

"My own separate opinion as an individual is that we should be an independent nation," Clark says. Others in the AIP "believe that being a commonwealth would be a good avenue to follow." Some advocate statehood -- but a fuller statehood than exists now.

She doesn't know what Palin's position was.

"It never came up in conversation," Clark recalls. "But when she joined the party, our platform was right under her nose."

Clark says that Palin left the party and became a Republican in 1996, when she first ran for mayor of Wasilla.

The McCain-Palin campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The AIP platform states that the purpose of the party is to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution ... To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature ... To support the privatization of government services ...�

Walter Hickel, a former Republican governor, was elected to the governorship in 1990 as an AIP member -- the third-largest party in Alaska -- with a plurality vote of 38.8%. A Seattle Post-Intelligencer story that year said that "Hickel is running with the Alaska Independence Party, a fringe group advocating that the 49th state declare itself a sovereign nation. But he's not a separatist; he's an opportunist: the Independence Party was the only 11th-hour ticket to the general election."

Hickel returned to the Republican Party in 1994; he endorsed Palin in her gubernatorial run in 2006. Subsequent AIP gubernatorial candidates did not fare as well as did Hickel, garnering less than 2 percent of the vote.

Earlier this year, Palin sent a video message to the AIP for its annual convention, where AIP vice chair George Clark told the small crowd that Palin "was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town �- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -� she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won�t go into that. She also had about an 80 percent approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership."

Lynette Clark says that Palin is "a fine individual. She's forthright and she puts Alaska first."

She is not a fan of McCain.

"I can't understand why in God's name she has aligned herself with a candidate who opposes the development of our republic and Alaska's resource wealth," Clark says.

- jpt

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KosherSam
Member since Mar 18th 2004
70132 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 09:49 PM

142. "S-E-C-E-S-S-I-O-N"
In response to Reply # 140

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

<-- In Pigpen we trust

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nobodydoesitbetter
Member since Apr 19th 2006
27389 posts

Mon Sep-01-08 11:12 PM

151. "McCain apparently lied about vetting her/FBI check etc (nytimes swipe)"
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Disclosures on Palin Raise Questions on Vetting Process
Jim Wilson/The New York Times

Conservatives rallied around Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, who is Senator John McCain�s choice for a running mate, after the disclosure that her unmarried teenager daughter was pregnant.

By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: September 1, 2008

ST. PAUL � A series of disclosures about Gov. Sarah Palin, Senator John McCain�s choice as running mate, called into question on Monday how thoroughly Mr. McCain had examined her background before putting her on the Republican presidential ticket.
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On Monday morning, Ms. Palin and her husband, Todd, issued a statement saying that their 17-year-old unmarried daughter, Bristol, was five months pregnant and that she intended to marry the father.

Among other less attention-grabbing news of the day: it was learned that Ms. Palin now has a private lawyer in a legislative ethics investigation in Alaska into whether she abused her power in dismissing the state�s public safety commissioner; that she was a member for two years in the 1990s of the Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede; and that Mr. Palin was arrested 22 years ago on a drunken-driving charge.

Aides to Mr. McCain said they had a team on the ground in Alaska now to look more thoroughly into Ms. Palin�s background. A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Ms. Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before Mr. McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice. The campaign was still calling Republican operatives as late as Sunday night asking them to go to Alaska to deal with the unexpected candidacy of Ms. Palin.

Although the McCain campaign said that Mr. McCain had known about Bristol Palin�s pregnancy before he asked her mother to join him on the ticket and that he did not consider it disqualifying, top aides were vague on Monday about how and when he had learned of the pregnancy, and from whom.

While there was no sign that her formal nomination this week was in jeopardy, the questions swirling around Ms. Palin on the first day of the Republican National Convention, already disrupted by Hurricane Gustav, brought anxiety to Republicans who worried that Democrats would use the selection of Ms. Palin to question Mr. McCain�s judgment and his ability to make crucial decisions.

At the least, Republicans close to the campaign said it was increasingly apparent that Ms. Palin had been selected as Mr. McCain�s running mate with more haste than McCain advisers initially described.

Up until midweek last week, some 48 to 72 hours before Mr. McCain introduced Ms. Palin at a Friday rally in Dayton, Ohio, Mr. McCain was still holding out the hope that he could choose a good friend, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, a Republican close to the campaign said. Mr. McCain had also been interested in another favorite, former Gov. Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania.

But both men favor abortion rights, anathema to the Christian conservatives who make up a crucial base of the Republican Party. As word leaked out that Mr. McCain was seriously considering the men, the campaign was bombarded by outrage from influential conservatives who predicted an explosive floor fight at the convention and vowed rejection of Mr. Ridge or Mr. Lieberman by the delegates.

Perhaps more important, several Republicans said, Mr. McCain was getting advice that if he did not do something to shake up the race, his campaign would be stuck on a potentially losing trajectory.

With time running out � and as Mr. McCain discarded two safer choices, Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, as too predictable � he turned to Ms. Palin. He had his first face-to-face interview with her on Thursday and offered her the job moments later. Advisers to Mr. Pawlenty and another of the finalists on Mr. McCain�s list described an intensive vetting process for those candidates that lasted one to two months.

�They didn�t seriously consider her until four or five days from the time she was picked, before she was asked, maybe the Thursday or Friday before,� said a Republican close to the campaign. �This was really kind of rushed at the end, because John didn�t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge.�

In the final stages, two Republicans familiar with the process said, Mr. McCain�s campaign manager, Rick Davis, emerged as a key advocate for Ms. Palin.

Mr. McCain�s advisers said repeatedly on Monday that Ms. Palin was �thoroughly vetted,� a process that would have included a review of all financial and legal records as well as a criminal background check. A McCain aide said that the campaign was well aware of the ethics investigation and that it had looked into it.

�It was obviously something that anybody Googling Sarah Palin knew was in the news and there was a very thorough vetting done on that and also on the daughter,� the aide said.

People familiar with the process said Ms. Palin had responded to a standard form with more than 70 questions. Although The Washington Post quoted advisers to Mr. McCain on Sunday as saying Ms. Palin had been subjected to an F.B.I. background check, an F.B.I. official said Monday the bureau did not vet potential candidates and had not known of her selection until it was made public.

Mark Salter, Mr. McCain�s closest adviser, said in an e-mail message that Ms. Palin had been interviewed by Arthur B. Culvahouse Jr., a veteran Washington lawyer in charge of the vice-presidential vetting process for Mr. McCain, as well as by other lawyers who worked for Mr. Culvahouse. Mr. Salter did not respond to an e-mail message asking if Ms. Palin had told Mr. Culvahouse and his lawyers that her daughter was pregnant.

In Alaska, several state leaders and local officials said they knew of no efforts by the McCain campaign to find out more information about Ms. Palin before the announcement of her selection, Although campaigns are typically discreet when they make inquiries into potential running mates, officials in Alaska said Monday they thought it was peculiar that no one in the state had the slightest hint that Ms. Palin might be under consideration.

�They didn�t speak to anyone in the Legislature, they didn�t speak to anyone in the business community,� said Lyda Green, the State Senate president, who lives in Wasilla, where Ms. Palin served as mayor.

Representative Gail Phillips, a Republican and former speaker of the State House, said the widespread surprise in Alaska when Ms. Palin was named to the ticket made her wonder how intensively the McCain campaign had vetted her.

�I started calling around and asking, and I have not been able to find one person that was called,� Ms. Phillips said. �I called 30 to 40 people, political leaders, business leaders, community leaders. Not one of them had heard. Alaska is a very small community, we know people all over, but I haven�t found anybody who was asked anything.�

The current mayor of Wasilla, Dianne M. Keller, said she had not heard of any efforts to look into Ms. Palin�s background. And Randy Ruedrich, the state Republican Party chairman, said he knew nothing of any vetting that had been conducted.

State Senator Hollis French, a Democrat who is directing the ethics investigation, said that no one asked him about the allegations. �I heard not a word, not a single contact,� he said.

A number of Republicans said the McCain campaign had to some degree tied its hands in its effort to keep the selection process so secret.

�If you really want it to be a surprise, the circle of people that you�re going to allow to know about it is going to be small, and that�s just the nature of it,� said Dan Bartlett, a former counselor to President Bush.

Former McCain strategists disagreed on whether it would have been useful for Ms. Palin�s name to have been more publicly floated before her selection so that issues like the trooper investigation and her daughter�s pregnancy might have already been aired and not seemed so new at the time of her announcement.

�It�s a risk,� said Dan Schnur, a former McCain aide who now directs the Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at the University of Southern California. �No matter how great the candidate, it�s a significant risk to put someone on the ticket� who hasn�t been publicly scrutinized.

�They obviously felt it was worth the risk to rev up the base and potentially reach out to Clinton supporters,� Mr. Schnur said.

Reporting was contributed by Kate Zernike, Jim Rutenberg and Peter Baker in St. Paul, and Serge F. Kovaleski in Juneau, Alaska.
More Articles in US � A version of this article appeared in print on September 2, 2008, on page A1 of the New York edition.

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sixteenstone
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:14 PM

152. "and another one (video link)"
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Sarah plugging for Ron Paul and Mitt Romney on Super Tuesday, lol
No mention of John Mc Cain at all even thought he was the front runner of the GOP nomination the entire time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8q6kDMl3pQ&NR=1

sorry if this was posted already
there's just so much on her

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paragon216
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:11 PM

243. "she was about to go racist in that rant"
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Never come between a black man and his hustle in a room full of white people

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:19 PM

153. "Palin secured $27 million earmarks for a town of 6,700 (swipw)"
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and is actually down with lobbyists. but she's a reformer. Links

Palin's Small Alaska Town Secured Big Federal Funds

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090103148.html?sid=ST2008090103340&s_pos=

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sixteenstone
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:25 PM

156. "CNN has an update on "Trooper Gate""
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They found emails between Palin and the Commisioner regarding her abuse of power scandal

Reports say they are strong evidence in the case
They will be released as soon as they get the official word

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Mr Mystery
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:41 PM

161. "You realize Obama is a Jedi right?"
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His speech blew their mind. McCain wants to pick Ridge or Lieberman (ny times has an article on it)but he needs a game changer. He trusts his crew. Talks to her. interviews her for 3 hours gives her the job. no investigation.

Obama got them making ill advised decisions son. smoke one

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Majhik101
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:19 AM

177. "If Barack don't use this here he ain't surs about winnin'"
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Marbles
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:22 PM

154. "Her daughter's baby's father... (link & swipe)"
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I kinda laughed out loud at the last sentence.

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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/09/palin-daughters-babydaddy-some-dude-named-levi-reports-enqui.php

By Neel Shah 09/01/08 7:52 PM

Make that 2-0 for David Perel. Fresh off his success with the John Edwards story, sources tell Radar that an aggressive 36-hour push by Perel's National Enquirer reporting team forced Alaska Governor and John McCain's vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin to announce that her 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant, an announcement which effectively puts an end to the Internet rumor that Palin had faked her own pregnancy to cover up her daughter's. (Or does it? There are already conspiracy theories that this pregnancy is being faked to dispel the rumors that Trig, Palin's 4-month-old, is really Bristol's child. Kinda crazy, right?) Radar has also learned that the father of Bristol's child, as well as her soon-to-be-husband, is a 17-year-old hockey player named Levi Johnston.

Images from what appears to be Johnston's sister's MySpace page were suddenly made private today; you can see many of them here.

The Enquirer has seemingly been on the pregnancy case all weekend, going so far as to ID Johnston and get comment from his parents. Rather than let the tabloid break the story, however, McCain's campaign decided to force Palin into releasing the details.

Palin's admission comes as a watered-down RNC is set to kick off in St. Paul today. (George Bush, Dick Cheney, and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger have all backed out of appearances on account of Hurricane Gustav.)

UPDATE: The New York Daily News has more, as does the New York Post, which mentions this gem:

On his MySpace page, Johnston boasts, "I'm a f - - -in' redneck" who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.

"But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s- - - and just f - - -in' chillin' I guess."

"Ya f - - - with me I'll kick ass," he added.

He also claims to be "in a relationship," but states, "I don't want kids."

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Peace,

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Tue Sep-02-08 12:18 AM

170. "WOW. Someone find dudes MySpace NOW."
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>UPDATE: The New York Daily News has more, as does the New York
>Post, which mentions this gem:
>
> On his MySpace page, Johnston boasts, "I'm a f - - -in'
>redneck" who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.
>
> "But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang
>out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s- - - and just
>f - - -in' chillin' I guess."
>
> "Ya f - - - with me I'll kick ass," he added.
>
> He also claims to be "in a relationship," but states, "I
>don't want kids."

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PlanetInfinite
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:27 AM

176. "RE: WOW. Someone find dudes MySpace NOW."
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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=216482927
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:28 PM

237. "i love you. so much."
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i aint SCARED of you motherfuckers.' � Bernie Mac

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bshelly
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:26 PM

157. "this shit, man."
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i feel like an old man sitting on the porch on his rocking chair wearing a straw hat drinking my lemonaid, saying, man, i thought i had seen everything but this is some...SHIT

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Villain
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:40 PM

160. "i need that pic basa uses for shit like this."
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i think longo posted it like last week. I'm cheesing like that dude right now.

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jswerve386
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:32 PM

158. "THIS IS AWESOME!!!"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYFkR8zYiBw

yupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyup

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Nukkapedia
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:48 PM

164. ""Sarah Palin makes Barack Obama look like John Adams!""
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(experience-wise)

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Triptych
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:55 AM

180. "That's actually very good."
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I'm so proud of the democratic machine right now.

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Tue Sep-02-08 03:58 PM

266. "OWW BITCH!"
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TAKE THAT!!!

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Tue Sep-02-08 10:56 PM

337. "100%!"
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:35 PM

159. "there's no way Palin is staying on the ticket"
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there's just so much fodder on her (even besides the pregnant kid thing), the mccain campaign is going to have to get rid of her. i'm predicting at some point in the not too distant future we're going to have a sarah palin press conference saying the burden of campaigning is too much and that she has to drop out.

either way, mccain is done. what a monsterous disaster.

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Mynoriti
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:02 AM

173. "if she's off the ticket, it's a wrap"
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:03 AM by Mynoriti

repubs only hope is to stick with her and try to weather/spin this mess the best they can.

but if the mccain camp publicly removes her, or even if they try and say she's dropping out due to "family obligations", there's no way they could ever big up mccain's judgement again with a straight face. this was the biggest decision of his campaign and he drove into a ditch.

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ACRG
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:42 PM

162. "worse thing to happen to her?"
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letting McCain's people find out about her and select her. lol

o00o

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liveguy
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:46 PM

163. "It's overwhelming to me how ridiculously SNL this ladies story is"
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:51 PM by liveguy

Palins baby was born in when April? June? July?

Her daughters is how many months preggo?

LOL!

Please...

Trig is Bristols baby....

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liveguy
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Mon Sep-01-08 11:49 PM

165. "WOW...the republican chicks on Larry King were sonned tonight"
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LOL!

They were silent....

Had nothing to say at the end of their segment....

Hahahahahaha

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Castro
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:33 AM

174. "Um Sarah, I'ma need to see a birth certificate... (swipe)"
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Wow, just wow: http://cajunboy.tumblr.com/

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sixteenstone
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:29 AM

190. "smh.... WOW"
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liveguy
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:19 AM

213. "WOW!!!!! Hahaha....just wow!"
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:03 PM

338. "THIS IS SCANDALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Doc Maestro
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:25 AM

175. "http://i34.tinypic.com/28iapoi.jpg"
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http://i34.tinypic.com/28iapoi.jpg

i better not have been the first to post this shop

sheeeeit

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:23 AM

179. "The Doc can say with confidence... Palin is a dumbass."
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Note that Ex-Pac didn't start getting excited until McCain picked her (probably because she's a new face and she represents Santorum Home Shit-o-nomics).

Her gaffes are one thing (it never stopped Bush from getting elected), but this whole thing re: her daughter.... just dumb

People are suspicious that her youngest child is not hers, and her answer is: "My daughter's pregnant!" Like W(hy)TF would you do that? Wouldn't it make sense to take the buzzing about her youngest child off the table, not put more buzzing about her daughter on it?

McCain didn't do what he needed in selecting her. She'll stay on the ticket, ITDO -- just because of the attention she's getting

but now that the MSM is touching the pregnancy story...and the GOP cheerleader response is "Our shit does not stink" (as per usual)...

The Doc can only see Brainwashed, Furtile Mooseknuckled Claw-Bait as a dumbass.

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Castro
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Tue Sep-02-08 07:35 AM

182. "look at the link in #174....she is lying on top of lying..."
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:10 AM by Castro

I looked at the photos they had released to the press of her being pregnant earlier this year and the timelines are all messed up.

Couple that we some of the articles where Alaskans who work with Palin have not been called, and they have called each other to see if ANYONE has been called...not a one at the time of the article.

At this rate, forget Palin, McCain might not make it through this week!!!

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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:29 AM

189. "all that's getting the GOP their numbers is 'cism at this point"
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McCain/Palin is a joke...

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disco dj
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:09 AM

194. " all that's getting the GOP their numbers is 'cism at this point"
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^^^^ you said it best.

If ANYBODY who claims to be "on the fence" still votes for this ticket, they should just come out of the booth like: "fuck it...I just couldn't bring myself to vote for a Black dood..."

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ZooTown74
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:33 AM

198. "I would at least respect their honesty..."
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I'd still call them a racist piece of shit, but I'd still give them props for being honest about why they voted the way they did...
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:55 AM

202. "yep. that's all I ask. Be real with it."
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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:06 AM

208. "because they won't say it on camera"
In response to Reply # 202

but you best believe they'll say it in the polls

where The Doc comes from we have a word for that...

PUSSY!!

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Earl Flynn
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Tue Sep-02-08 07:44 AM

183. "Call her General Palin"
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Call her General Palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jRhN5Et9QQ&eurl=

AMERICAblog
September 2, 2008

Weird new talking point from the McCain campaign. They�re now saying that Sarah Palin, or perhaps we should now be calling her General Palin, is "Commander in Chief" of the Alaska National Guard that is fighting in Iraq. I�m sure the governor is the de jure chief of the state�s national guard, but to imply that she�s somehow the equivalent of the Commander in Chief of the US military, directing Alaska�s forces in the fight against Al Qaeda, running through war plans and launching rocket attacks, is just laughable. Don�t take it from me. Take it from the general who runs the Alaska National Guard:

Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard� said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.

Oops.

This interview, below, is simply astounding. CNN�s Campbell Brown just obliterates McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds who simply refuses to answer, is unable to answer, the simple question as to what foreign policy experience Palin has. He couldn�t name one decision she made as commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard. Watch the video below or via this link.

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mochalox
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Tue Sep-02-08 07:59 AM

184. "What if Palin were a black woman????? (LINK)"
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(1) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/what-if-bristol-palin-was_b_123107.html

(2) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-leon-roker/palins-babys-baby-mama-dr_b_123109.html

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sixteenstone
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:17 AM

186. "Any wrong doing by white women ,media make them to be victims"
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Tatum O Neal bought CRACK off the street and was cold busted
2 months later she on the front page of Glamour magazine with a 5 page article about how she turned to crack because she was depressed about her career

Let that had been Gabrielle Union or something and the media would have painted a very different picture

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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:28 AM

188. "entitlement. It's not just a buzzword"
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>Tatum O Neal bought CRACK off the street and was cold busted
>2 months later she on the front page of Glamour magazine with
>a 5 page article about how she turned to crack because she was
>depressed about her career
>
>Let that had been Gabrielle Union or something and the media
>would have painted a very different picture

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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:01 AM

192. "holy shit... GADOUKEN THROWN right here in the first link"
In response to Reply # 184
Tue Sep-02-08 09:01 AM by Dr Claw

>(1)
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/what-if-bristol-palin-was_b_123107.html

"Which brings us back to Obama. Do you think the Republicans would lay off of Obama if his 17 year-old daughter had gotten pregnant out of wedlock? You know the answer to that question. Everyone does.

"This is what the permissive liberal attitude gets you. If you allow your children to think everything is acceptable, they have no boundaries. They wind up getting themselves in trouble like this. It's a predictable result of the liberal lifestyle."

And that's before the subtle and not so subtle racial implications are brought into this. There is a constant double-standard of how black and white people and politicians are covered in this country. When a young black girl gets pregnant, she's looking to get money from welfare. When a young white woman gets pregnant, she made an unfortunate mistake and her family is being supportive in trying to help the make the best of it.

Cindy McCain was addicted to drugs and stole from her own charity to feed her addiction. Now what do you think the Republicans would have done if Michelle Obama had done that? How do you think the press would have covered it? You think they would have called it a simple mistake and moved on?"

^^^^ LTDFAO

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ZooTown74
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:17 AM

195. "Yeah, son was firing with both barrels..."
In response to Reply # 192
Tue Sep-02-08 09:31 AM by ZooTown74

And it wouldn't surprise me if we heard one or more "radical" Republicans blame Palin's pregnancy on "our coarse, sex-obsessed liberal culture" this week...

This situation and the resulting spin that's being attempted couldn't be more farcical...
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:50 AM

200. "this right here got me"
In response to Reply # 192

"Barack Obama has told everyone to lay off this because it is a personal, family matter. Yes, but it also has public policy ramifications. Governor Palin is for abstinence only education. Well, that obviously didn't work.

Has she learned her lesson? Will she now amend her policy position on this matter given her personal record of failure in implementing this ridiculous stance?"

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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:02 AM

205. "the word for word anticipation of 'conservative' criticism"
In response to Reply # 200
Tue Sep-02-08 10:02 AM by Dr Claw

is what was LOL about that

like, he nailed that shit verbatim -- what they would say

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Tue Sep-02-08 08:51 AM

191. "LOL at this article detailing how vetted she was:"
In response to Reply # 0

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin

McCain vetter defends Palin review

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 22 minutes ago

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Sarah Palin voluntarily told John McCain's campaign about her pregnant teenage daughter and her husband's 2-decade-old DUI arrest during questioning as part of the Republican's vice presidential search, the lawyer who conducted the background review said.

The Alaska governor also greatly detailed the dismissal of the state's public safety commissioner that has touched off a legislative investigation, Arthur B. Culvahouse Jr. told The Associated Press in an interview Monday.

Palin underwent a "full and complete" background examination before McCain chose her as his running mate, Culvahouse said. Asked whether everything that came up as a possible red flag during the review already has been made public, he said: "I think so. Yah, I think so. Correct."

McCain's campaign has been trying to tamp down questions about whether the Arizona senator adequately researched his surprise vice presidential selection or whether he chose the first-term governor without fully looking into her background.

Nicolle Wallace, a senior McCain adviser, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Tuesday that Palin disclosed her daughter's pregnancy during the vetting process, and that the McCain campaign had been forced to reveal the pregnancy publicly Monday because of "lewd and outrageously false rumors" spread by "Democratic-leaning blogs and a few in the mainstream" media. She did not identify them.

Since McCain publicly disclosed his running mate on Friday, the notion of a shoddy, rushed review has been stoked repeatedly.

First, a campaign-issued timeline said McCain initially met Palin in February, then held one phone conversation with her last week before inviting her to Arizona, where he met with her a second time and offered her the job Thursday.

Then came the campaign's disclosure that Palin's unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant. The father is Levi Johnston, who has been a hockey player at Bristol's high school, The New York Post and The New York Daily News reported in their Tuesday editions.

In addition, the campaign also disclosed that Palin's husband, Todd, then age 22, was arrested in 1986 in Alaska for driving under the influence of alcohol.

Shortly after Palin was named to the ticket, McCain's campaign dispatched a team of a dozen communications operatives and lawyers to Alaska. That fueled speculation that a comprehensive examination of Palin's record and past was incomplete and being done only after she was placed on the ticket.

Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser, said no matter who the nominee was, the campaign was ready to send a "jump team" to the No. 2's home state to work with the nominee's staff, work with the local media and help handle requests from the national media for information, and answer questions about documents that were part of the review.

At several points throughout the process, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it.

Culvahouse disclosed details of his examination in a half-hour interview with the AP.

First, a team of some 25 people working under Culvahouse culled information from public sources for Palin and other prospective candidates without their knowledge. For all, news reports, speeches, financial and tax return disclosures, litigation, investigations, ethical charges, marriages and divorces were reviewed.

For Palin specifically, the team studied online archives of the state's largest newspapers, including the Anchorage Daily News, but didn't request paper archives for Palin's hometown newspaper. "I made the decision that we could not get it done and maintain secrecy," Culvahouse said.

Reports, 40-some pages and single-spaced, on each candidate then were reviewed by McCain, Schmidt, campaign manager Rick Davis and top advisers Mark Salter and Charlie Black.

Among the details McCain's campaign found: Palin had once received a citation for fishing without a license.

Palin, like others on the short list, then was sent a personal data questionnaire with 70 "very intrusive" questions, Culvahouse said. She also was asked to submit a number of years of federal and state tax returns, as well as any controversial articles she had written or interviews she had done. The campaign also checked her credit.

Then, Culvahouse conducted a nearly three-hour-long interview.

He said the first thing she volunteered was that her daughter was pregnant, and she also quickly disclosed her husband's DUI arrest.

Early on, the public search unearthed details of the investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that Palin ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper.

Culvahouse said that he asked follow-up questions during the interview, and "spent a lot of time with her lawyer" on the matter.

"We came out of it knowing all that we could know at the time," he said.

As for the financial records review, Culvahouse said: "It was very clean. We had no issues there."

Throughout the process, the campaign said, Davis had multiple conversations with Palin.

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temps2020
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:22 AM

214. "McCain just sent a team down to Alaska a few days ago"
In response to Reply # 191

after the fact.

Palin just hired a private lawyer to defend her in the trooper-gates scandal. If the media doesn't pick up on these things and dig into all her issues then I will lose it. I know Gustav is the main story and the RNC (while the Republicans are politicizing the hurricane cutting down the convention b/c of the hurricane, while mccain voted several times against aid funding for katrina victims and was eating cake on a AZ tarmac with bush on the day the hurricane struck) is too, but they need to talk about it.

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Tue Sep-02-08 09:20 AM

196. "have we talked about her being a secessionist yet? AIP?"
In response to Reply # 0

she was part of the alaskan independence party, which wants a vote over whether, among other things, the state of alaska should secede?

lol. this whole campaign been very secessful.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/2/95340/25869/18/582717

now, if mr. 'i KNEW he was a closet muslim' had belonged to a group that was threatening to break off the state of illinois from the union (um, didn't we fight a war over some ish like that?) what do we think the consensus would be?

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Tue Sep-02-08 10:04 AM

206. "he wouldn't have made it past Massachussetts"
In response to Reply # 196

>now, if mr. 'i KNEW he was a closet muslim' had belonged to a
>group that was threatening to break off the state of illinois
>from the union (um, didn't we fight a war over some ish like
>that?) what do we think the consensus would be?

what's effed up is that Palin is on that video CLEAR AS DAY... no grainy footage. Just her, a desk, and a camera, introducing the shit...

man, if Obama was at some Mosque talkin' some "YA LEEEEEEIIIIILLLLLY" shit like Muhammad Hassan?

He'd have gotten Powelled out of the race

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temps2020
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:19 AM

212. "the media needs to talk about this...if she's gonna be a vp"
In response to Reply # 196

then she needs to answer why she would put Alaska first over the United States of America. She's not the VP of Alaska but of the whole country. since she was a member and still holds alliances with AIP then she obviously could give a damn about the rest of the country.

Also, according to Fox News and Cindy McCain, she has foreign relation experience because "Alaska is close to Russia." I shit you not. they said that shit.

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Tue Sep-02-08 12:27 PM

225. "if she were the gov of TX talkin' this crap, I might look the other way"
In response to Reply # 196

but Alaska?

I dunno. I guess Alaska and Hawaii DO get the short end of Uncle Sam's stick....

pun intended.

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Tue Sep-02-08 09:40 AM

199. "Her daughter loves to kick-it....link..."
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.mediatakeout.com/2008/26330-explosive_pics_vp_candidate_palins_daughter_is_wilder_than_britney__pics_of_her_and_her_girls_getting_drunk_and_kissing_each_other.html

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Tue Sep-02-08 09:55 AM

204. "RE: Her daughter loves to kick-it....link..."
In response to Reply # 199

>http://www.mediatakeout.com/2008/26330-explosive_pics_vp_candidate_palins_daughter_is_wilder_than_britney__pics_of_her_and_her_girls_getting_drunk_and_kissing_each_other.html
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wow. this is getting better and better. i hope the news picks this up. lol

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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:05 AM

207. "ok, now it's gone BEYOND bullshit... LTDAO"
In response to Reply # 204
Tue Sep-02-08 10:05 AM by Dr Claw

We got Bad Dad in OKS...

How about Bum Mum?

Mad Mom?

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Tue Sep-02-08 11:14 AM

217. "Missing Mom. her kids are slutting it up and she's in washington!"
In response to Reply # 207

*Jews you*

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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:58 AM

221. "LOL"
In response to Reply # 217

Excellent. Because what we have here is a "Bad Dad" situation...

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Tue Sep-02-08 10:08 AM

209. "media take out?"
In response to Reply # 199

this has got to be a scam.
a swerve is on it's way.

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Tue Sep-02-08 10:10 AM

211. "yeah...that's NOT Bristol Palin."
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:44 AM

216. "It's Bristol's baby daddy's SISTER. LMAO *more pics*"
In response to Reply # 211

http://media.tumblr.com/8tqDWct6Wdd4ridqNKz2c9zj_400.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/8tqDWct6Wdd4e1o0GTJ4hjcQ_400.jpg
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:48 AM

220. "doesn't grandma look so proud? ....."
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http://media.tumblr.com/8tqDWct6Wdd40n4vHz5dWxde_400.jpg

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Tue Sep-02-08 01:17 PM

234. "whoa that does look suspect, but"
In response to Reply # 220

hey it could just be a pic. but it does feed doubt

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Tue Sep-02-08 12:00 PM

222. "she's going to make Laura and Jenna look like nuns"
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:17 PM

223. "Palin seems to think the Founding Fathers wrote the pledge of allegiance"
In response to Reply # 0

from jack and jill politics:

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/vp-nominee-palin-thinks-the-founding-fathers-wrote-the-pledge-of-allegiance/#disqus_thread

how is she so clueless.

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Tue Sep-02-08 12:22 PM

224. "She look like she does MILF porn"
In response to Reply # 0

I'm sure someone has already stated/thought this.

dats right and ima be up in here for a minute
and i aint goin nowhere
and im using dat phone
and ima have my lil snacks and all dat wit me
and i dare a nigga go in my locka cause yo IM NOT PLAYIN WIT YALL NIGGAS MAN(c)

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Tue Sep-02-08 12:28 PM

226. "Thomas Eagleton with breasts"
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:13 PM

340. "RE: Thomas Eagleton with breasts"
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:44 PM

227. "some photoshops"
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ovegto/other/palinbabymama.jpg
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:14 PM

232. "LMMFAO CHRIS HANSEN"
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Choklytcytee
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:45 PM

228. "If Sara Palin wasn't pregnant then who's baby is that?"
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I mean, her daughter is currently preggers. That baby is a few months old and it seems in pictures where she should havebeen late term, she's not. So who's baby is that? Im confused.....

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Tue Sep-02-08 01:08 PM

230. "LOL Turns out she has a "Rev Wright" problem too"
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Some of the shit this dude said is far worse than anything Wright said. This shit is just getting ridiculous. Please, please, please don't pull her back!

Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.

Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.

Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

Palin's address, much of which was spent reflecting on the work of the church in which she grew up and was baptized, underscores the notion that her world view is deeply impacted by religion. In turn, her remarks raise important questions: mainly, what is Palin's faith and how exactly has it influenced her policies?

A review of recorded sermons by Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999, offers a provocative and, for some, eyebrow-raising sketch of Palin's longtime spiritual home.
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The church runs a number of ministries providing help to poor neighborhoods, care for children in need, and general community services. But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that position of war mode."

It is impossible to determine how much Wasilla Assembly of God has shaped Palin's thinking. She was baptized there at the age of 12 and attended the church for most of her adult life. When Palin was inaugurated as governor, the founding pastor of the church delivered the invocation. In 2002, Palin moved her family to a nondenominational church, but she continues to worship at a related Assembly of God church in Juneau.

Moreover, she "has maintained a friendship with Wasilla Assembly of God and has attended various conferences and special meetings here," Kalnins' office said in a statement. "As for her personal beliefs," the statement added, "Governor Palin is well able to speak for herself on those issues."

Clearly, however, Palin views the church as the source of an important, if sometimes politically explosive, message. "Having grown up here, and having little kids grow up here also, this is such a special, special place," she told the congregation in June. "What comes from this church I think has great destiny."

And if the political storm over Barack Obama's former pastor Jeremiah Wright is any indication, Palin may face some political fallout over the more controversial teachings of Wasilla Assembly of God.

If the church had a political alignment, it would almost surely be conservative. In his sermons, Kalnins did not hide his affections for certain national politicians.

During the 2004 election season, he praised President Bush's performance during a debate with Sen. John Kerry, then offered a not-so-subtle message about his personal candidate preferences. "I'm not going tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I'm sorry." Kalnins added: "If every Christian will vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time."

Months after hinting at possible damnation for Kerry supporters, Kalnins bristled at the treatment President Bush was receiving over the federal government's handling of Hurricane Katrina. "I hate criticisms towards the President," he said, "because it's like criticisms towards the pastor -- it's almost like, it's not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That's what it'll get you."

Much of his support for the current administration has come in the realm of foreign affairs. Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq were part of a "world war" over the Christian faith, one in which Jesus Christ had called upon believers to be willing to sacrifice their lives.

What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode." Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he's like the good shepherd, he's loving all the time and he's kind all the time. Oh yes he is -- but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war.

As for his former congregant and current vice presidential candidate, Kalnins has asserted that Palin's election as governor was the result of a "prophetic call" by another pastor at the church who prayed for her victory. " a prophetic declaration and then unfolds the kingdom of God, you know."

Even Palin expressed surprise at that pastor's advocacy for her candidacy. "He was praying over me," she said in June. "He's praying, 'Lord make a way, Lord make a way...' And I'm thinking, this guy's really bold, he doesn't even know what I'm gonna do, he doesn't know what my plans are, and he's praying not, 'Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor,' or whatever. No, he just prayed for it. He said, 'Lord, make a way, and let her do this next step.' And that's exactly what happened. So, again, very very powerful coming from this church."

In his sermons, Pastor Kalnins has also expressed beliefs that, while not directly political, lie outside of mainstream Christian thought.

He preaches repeatedly about the "end times" or "last days," an apocalyptic prophesy held by a small but vocal group of Christian leaders. During his appearance with Palin in June, he declared, "I believe Alaska is one of the refuge states in the last days, and hundreds of thousands of people are going to come to the state to seek refuge and the church has to be ready to minister to them."

He also claims to have received direct "words of knowledge" from God, providing him information about past events in other people's lives. During one sermon, he described being paired with a complete stranger during a golf outing. "I said, I'm a minister from Alaska and I want you to know that your wife left you -- you know that your wife left you and that the Lord is gonna defend you in a very short time, and it wasn't your fault. And the man drops his clubs, he literally was about to tee off and he dropped his clubs, and he says, 'Who the blank are you?' And I says, 'well, I'm a minister.' He says, 'how do you know about my life? What do you know?' And I started giving him more of the word of knowledge to his life and he was freaked out."

Kalnins has, of course, preached on a bevy of topics ranging from humility to "overcoming bitterness." But the more controversial remarks reported above were not out of the norm, appearing in numerous sermons spanning the four years of available recordings.

As for Palin, her views on these topics is more opaque. In the wake of the controversy over Jeremiah Wright, a debate has raged about whether political figures should be held responsible for the comments of their religious guiders. Clearly, however, Kalnins, like many national conservative religious leaders, sees Alaska's governor as one of his own. "Gov. Sarah Palin is the real deal," he told his church this past summer. "You know, some people put on a show...but she's the real deal."

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LeonPause
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:16 PM

233. "Video:"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

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Mr Mystery
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:20 PM

235. "oh man i see the bush commercial now"
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:23 PM by Mr Mystery

oh boy!

Although, at first she just said "lets hope their plan is God's plan" isn't really earth shattering. However, "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that,"

is just vacuous. God wants america to have all the oil. oh ok.

But her pastor is WYLIN!!! IF only there was footage of his shit.

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Tue Sep-02-08 01:13 PM

231. "http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/TStatic/bristolbabydaddy.jpg"
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:24 PM

236. "Bristol "First Response" Palin givin up dat Alaskan Pussy.....n/m"
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Dr Claw
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:45 PM

238. ""
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DonKnutts
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:50 PM

239. "honestly"
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everybody tripping over themselves to breathlessly run through palin's track record (or lack thereof) and "scandals" and actually think that it will have an adverse effect on voters is being really naive. the republicans are not stupid, they are spinning everything in palin's background as something to relate to the "common american." the democrats are looking elite, even effete. this whole "gotcha!" political sh't doesn't work (unless the candidate sleeps with a hooker).

someone above saying that they think palin will step down from the nomination??? LOLz. c'mon guys seriously. Dan Quayle anyone?

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Tue Sep-02-08 01:53 PM

240. "SARAH PALIN AT WAR WITH HER DAUGHTER OVER PREGNANCY & WEDDING"
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

SARAH PALIN AT WAR WITH HER DAUGHTER OVER PREGNANCY & WEDDING

Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin attempted to quietly have her daughter Bristol get married before news of her pregnancy leaked out, the NATIONAL ENQUIRER is reporting exclusively in its new issue.

Palin planned for the wedding to take place right after the Republican National Convention and then she was going to announce the pregnancy.

But Bristol, 17, refused to go along with the plan and that sparked a mother-daughter showdown over the failed coverup.

The ultra-conservative governor�s announcement about her daughter�s pregnancy came hours after The ENQUIRER informed her representatives and family members of Levi Johnston, the father of Bristol�s child, that we were aware of the pregnancy and were going to break the news.

In a preemptive strike Palin released the news, creating political shockwaves.

The ENQUIRER has also learned that Palin�s family is embroiled in a vicious war that is now exposing her darkest secrets, threatening to destroy her political career.

Palin�s ongoing war with her ex brother-in-law Mike Wooten, a state trooper, has caused multiple sources to come forward with shocking allegations about the governor.

Details of those allegations, the family feud, and Palin�s attempt to cover up her teen daughter�s pregnancy are in the new issue of The ENQUIRER.

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OldPro
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:07 PM

254. "I can see this"
In response to Reply # 240

Man, if the daughter talks to the press ....... oh shit
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KosherSam
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:12 PM

255. "yo, WTF is up with the ENQUIRER suddenly being Woodward & Bernstein?"
In response to Reply # 240

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:16 PM

271. "LOL!! right?"
In response to Reply # 255

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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tonywashington
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:08 PM

330. "you know! this is crazy."
In response to Reply # 255

-T
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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:19 PM

274. "teenage shotgun wedding = family values"
In response to Reply # 240

based on the baby daddy's myspace page ("i don't want kids", "i'm a f***ing redneck", etc.) bristol and her *two* kids would be WORLDS better off NOT marrying this dude. they're teenagers, for god's sake. they made a mistake. they shouldn't be forced to triple down on it for the sake of grandma's political career.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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Nukkapedia
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:24 PM

277. "This is rapidly turning into a goddamn trainwreck."
In response to Reply # 240

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Mr Mystery
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:02 PM

241. "Peep this hilarious mock Palin Blog (swipe)"
In response to Reply # 0

http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/

My favorite

"I might not have gone on alot of trips away from alaska or talked to to very many foreigners (unless you count liberels!) but i have a heck of a lot of experience dealing with BEARS. one of the parts of my job that i am most proud of is that I have led the fight in Alaska against polar bears. The Interior Department (aka Big Government) tried to tell us alaskans that polar bears are an "endangered species" because of something called "global warming." Um, hey guys, have you BEEN to Alaska? It's cold as heck! anyway, I sued them and basically said "Until you can prove that this global warming stuff is actually science (aka never), then let us do what we want with our bears."

say to them that Joe Biden has BEAR-LY any experience!" I put it in because Todd says that as VP I have to be an "attack dog" but I think it might be too mean to the Democrats, after all it isn't their fault that there aren't any bears in DC.

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Mr Mystery
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:12 PM

244. "So is this the official scandal tally?"
In response to Reply # 241

1. War hungry Pastor and she said the war was about God helping the pipe line in Alaska

2. Member of (Although she says she wasn't registered people in Alaska disagree) a State Secession Party

3. Teenage daughter pregnant.could be a cover up

4. Mayor of one of six Alaska towns with a lobbyist, who also worked for Abramoff, and gets over 30 million in earmarks for a town of less than 9k. But town was left in 20 million dollar debt, when she became governor (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12987.html)

5. Tries to get Brother in Law Fired, and lies about it. is now being investigated

6. Told her staff to resign if they didn't agree with her

7. Fired the entire state Board of Agriculture and Conservation, for disagreeing with her
8. Raised money for indicted Ted Stevens
9. Supported the Bridge to Nowhere
10. May have eloped when she got pregnant
11. Has no foreign control over the national guard of Alaska

anything left out?

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OldPro
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:09 PM

242. "LOL Rove Unwittingly Ethered McCain (video)"
In response to Reply # 0

Greatest week ever!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/32317/1/FTN-Rove-VPPick.wmv/

How long until this makes it's way into a TV ad

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ternary_star
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:26 PM

246. "holy shit"
In response to Reply # 242

wowzers

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OldPro
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:02 PM

252. "Seriously is it even possible to spin this?"
In response to Reply # 246

This Rove clip all but ends the debate
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ternary_star
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:19 PM

257. "he's literally describing Palin"
In response to Reply # 252

except her credentials are much worse

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OldPro
Member since Dec 10th 2002
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:40 PM

261. "Exactly"
In response to Reply # 257

>except her credentials are much worse

Going in on Kaine for being mayor of a town "only" as big as Richmond and Governor of a state 14 times the size of Alaska (a year longer at that) Hell Richmond alone is close to 1/3 the size of her whole state lol

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Tue Sep-02-08 11:37 PM

342. "& i love it!"
In response to Reply # 242

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ternary_star
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:24 PM

245. "when McCain dies, we'll have 2 LADIES in office"
In response to Reply # 0

President Palin
Vice President Pelosi

just thought of that...

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:35 PM

247. "Well, the 'Girl Power' Stans will be all over that."
In response to Reply # 245

but on paper? That's some scary ass shit.

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ThaTruth
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:40 PM

249. "does the the Speaker automatically become VP?"
In response to Reply # 245

________________________________________
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KosherSam
Member since Mar 18th 2004
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:44 PM

250. "If the VP is alive, they get to name their own VP"
In response to Reply # 245

the speaker is only involved in succession if both the prez and veep die

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

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Mr Mystery
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:40 PM

248. "MSNBC says the kids were duped!"
In response to Reply # 0

(I'm sick so dont ask me why i'm on top of this shit)

Just watched a NBC washington bureau chief says the family thought they were seeing a family member in Ohio, when they flew there last friday to announce her VP position. They were told that morning!

And he questioned how everyone knew about the pregnancy and did not consult the daughter. Did not forsee this being a story. Did not realize what they were throwing her into. His point wasn't the pregnancy but as a parent how do you put your child through that.

Makes the National Enquirer story plausible.

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:47 PM

251. "somewhere, Expertise smokes a cigar."
In response to Reply # 248

>Makes the National Enquirer story plausible.

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:23 PM

276. "that's insane, to accept the VP slot without consulting your family at a..."
In response to Reply # 248

i wanted to give this woman the benefit of the doubt on her family, but she is literally out of her mind if she tricked them (especially the daughter she knew was pregnant and who may have wanted to stay out of the spotlight given the choice) into standing behind her during the weekend's VP rollout.

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nobodydoesitbetter
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:05 PM

253. "obama 50. mccain 42. latest gallup."
In response to Reply # 0

finally.

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ternary_star
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:17 PM

256. "that will probably shrink after the RNC, though"
In response to Reply # 253

it's impossible to believe, i know...but this country is racist enough to elect the Republican freak show ticket over Obama/Biden

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:21 PM

258. "this isn't -that- impossible to believe"
In response to Reply # 256

>it's impossible to believe, i know...but this country is
>racist enough to elect the Republican freak show ticket over
>Obama/Biden

as said before, the chief reason that they've got the ticket tipping as well as they do? 'cism.

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OldPro
Member since Dec 10th 2002
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:43 PM

263. "Which is why that shit geraldine ferraro said was so fucked up"
In response to Reply # 258
Tue Sep-02-08 03:44 PM by OldPro

If Obama were white, this race would be the democratic version of Reagan-Mondale
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murphdogg
Member since Mar 02nd 2008
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:48 PM

286. "RE: Which is why that shit geraldine ferraro said was so fucked up"
In response to Reply # 263

>If Obama were white, this race would be the democratic

^^^^This is what people don't want to talk about...I said it earlier in this post....If McCain turned into OJ Simpson he would still only be behind Obama by 3 to 4 points, which is ridiculous...In any other time in election history McCain would be getting his ass handed to him...

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sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:41 PM

262. "are you kidding me?"
In response to Reply # 256

you do know BUSH is speaking right?
That alone should make the polls skyrocket towards Obama

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OldPro
Member since Dec 10th 2002
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:46 PM

264. "via satellite"
In response to Reply # 262

Won't have near the impact of him out on stage

They were happy to give up a night of the convention for an excuse to keep Bush out of Minneapolis.

Same line of thinking that had them send Chaney over seas.
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sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:02 PM

268. "yup"
In response to Reply # 264

as if he doesn't look dumb enough live
watch the speech of the anti-christ go out right during the middle
Nobody likes Bush. I think he ony has a 23% approval rating
I've never seen such denial in my life as I have from Republicans in the last 5 days

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:31 PM

279. "i see obama pulling away and the polls not being close again"
In response to Reply # 253

you really can't overestimate how badly this palin pick damaged the mccain brand. not only does it undercut virtually every argument against obama, not only does it highly call into question john mccain's decision making skills, not only have women already largely rejected the gimmick, not only does it make mccain's ticket look like the risky option and obama-biden look like kennedy-johnson in comparison, but because mccain failed to vet her, it means the next two months will be about sarah palin (and what we don't know about her) not barack obama.

somehow the mccain campaign found a way to run against the first black candidate in american history, a man who most americans never heard of four years ago, and NOT make the election about him.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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ternary_star
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:42 PM

282. "i think the only potential stumbling block are the evangelicals"
In response to Reply # 279

they LOVE this crazy broad.

with a potential for overturning Roe v. Wade, they'll be out in full force as a voting block.

if we can get past them, i agree - McCain stands no chance.

but that's a huge "if"

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:51 PM

289. "i think the pregnant daughter (and handling of) mutes their enthusiasm"
In response to Reply # 282

if there's one thing evangelicals do well, it's judge. i don't see this teenage pregnancy/shotgun wedding drama playing well with the base, i think it keeps a lot of people at home. i also think all the ethics investigations surrounding palin takes some sheen off her halo as well.

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Marauder21
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:52 PM

290. "The post RNC bump won't matter though"
In response to Reply # 279

Because we still have the debates (which should be more of a benefit to Obama) and the fact that Obama has an ass-ton more money to spend after the conventions than McCain.

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Swol_Belly
Member since Jun 05th 2002
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:25 PM

259. "RE: Talk About Sarah Palin Here."
In response to Reply # 0

Peep this

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/08/31/sarah-palin-did-not-give-birth-to-trig-the-down-s-syndrome-baby.aspx

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architectonic
Member since Feb 06th 2003
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:38 PM

260. "McCain campaign just called Obama sexist"
In response to Reply # 0

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/02/fiorina-dems-launching-sexist-attacks-against-palin/

Fiorina: Dems launching sexist attacks against Palin
Posted: 04:00 PM ET

From CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand
Carly Fiorina, a prominent surrogate for Sen. McCain, toured the podium Tuesday on the floor of the Republican convention.
Carly Fiorina, a prominent surrogate for Sen. McCain, toured the podium Tuesday on the floor of the Republican convention.

ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) � Senior McCain adviser Carly Fiorina said Tuesday that Barack Obama, Joe Biden and other Democrats were engaging in sexist attacks on Sarah Palin, as Republicans continued to invoke Hillary Clinton to criticize the Democratic presidential ticket.

�I am appalled by the Obama campaign's attempts to belittle Governor Sarah Palin�s experience,� said Fiorina. �The facts are that Sarah Palin has made more executive decisions as a Mayor and Governor than Barack Obama has made in his life.

�Because of Hillary Clinton's historic run for the Presidency and the treatment she received, American women are more highly tuned than ever to recognize and decry sexism in all its forms. They will not tolerate sexist treatment of Governor Palin.�

Fiorina pointed to a Monday interview with CNN�s Anderson Cooper, when Obama responded to GOP arguments that Palin had more executive experience than he or Biden did.

�Well, my understanding is that Governor Palin's town of Wasilla has I think 50 employees,� he said. �We've got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. So I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the last couple of years.�

She also pointed to a comment Biden made on the trail over the weekend, when he joked with the crowd at a campaign event that one of the �obvious differences� between him and Palin was that she is �good looking.�

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liveguy
Member since Jan 01st 2004
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:59 PM

267. "Palin has more "executive experience" than John McCain too"
In response to Reply # 260

According to their standards.

These republicans are in quicksand...and sinking fast.

Shit is comedy.

Sexism....LOL...FOH!

She wanted in...she gotta deal with the criticism like Barack does.

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OldPro
Member since Dec 10th 2002
34401 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 04:08 PM

269. "This is now the answer for everything"
In response to Reply # 260

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/32317/1/FTN-Rove-VPPick.wmv/

It's like holding two aces
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liveguy
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:19 PM

273. "I hope Olbermann and them get a hold of this vid and do work"
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Nukkapedia
Member since Apr 16th 2006
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:22 PM

275. "this is called "playing the gender card/victim.""
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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:40 PM

281. "this won't work, americans don't vote for the victim"
In response to Reply # 260

part of the reason republicans won the last two times is because they were the ones attacking while the democrats were the ones crying to the media about how unfair the attacks were. it's not about the substance of the attacks, it's about who's the agressor and who's bending over. america doesn't want a president who gets taken behind the woodshed then cries about it. americans want a president who fights back just as hard.

crying about sexism might win mccain-palin a few thousand sympathy votes from suburban moms, but it's gonna lose them at least ten times as many from men. just like barack figured out he could never ever be seen accusing the other side of racism, no matter what. it might up his support in the black community from 97% to 99%, but he'd lose 20% of his white supporters in one day.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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liveguy
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:32 PM

303. "all they gotta do is say Palin said to stop whining and pull the quote"
In response to Reply # 260

of when she called Hillary a whiner for crying sexism.

There is nothing sexist of what Obama said.

He just pointed out there her "experience" amounts to a hill of beans.

And I'll be glad when someone in the media calls the Reps on this "she has executive experience" BS by pointing out that by that standard, she is more ready to be Pres than John McCain is.

They keep saying she has more exec experience than Joe Biden and Barack Obama combined.

Okay....well add John McCain to that list too.

Now....does this "experience" make her more ready than McCain?

*crickets*

Someone...PLEASE pose this question to a campaign spokesperson and watch them grow smaller and smaller in that seat...lol

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mermaid
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Wed Sep-03-08 08:58 AM

361. "i am hoping somebody does this!!!"
In response to Reply # 303

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liveguy
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:48 PM

265. "Larry King style ETHER....(link)"
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/02/lkl.palin.controversy.cnn

I wish I had the second re-airing from last night...

And that one was even worse for the Reps than ^^this vid...

And ^^this was PURE ether!

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liveguy
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:17 PM

272. "Pt. 2 of the ETHER....they was gettin it last night lol...(links)"
In response to Reply # 265

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAqLoNtp7PA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJxB6HUlXI

Leslie Sanchez is still sexy even tho she caught a L majorly...

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Natural Mystic
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Wed Sep-03-08 12:44 AM

346. "this was great. thank you."
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ternary_star
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:38 PM

280. "Larry King got me ROLLIN"
In response to Reply # 265

he don't give even a bit of a fuck anymore

dude's like, shit, i'm dyin' soon and i got a young kid...we can't have this shit go down on my watch

he's straight LAUGHING in the face of these robo-republican talking heads (that one unblinking congresswoman is terrifying, by the way). i don't know if i've ever seen him do that - literally "LOL" at a guest's inane statements

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Tue Sep-02-08 04:45 PM

283. "she sold a plane on ebay...cmon!!"
In response to Reply # 280

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Tue Sep-02-08 04:55 PM

292. "Carville politely put the hammer down on that lady."
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:41 PM

305. "that was a professional assassin at work"
In response to Reply # 292

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Tue Sep-02-08 11:33 PM

341. "She is deeply frightening"
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LA2Philly
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Wed Sep-03-08 04:41 AM

352. "Can these republican heads even hear themselves talk? LMAO"
In response to Reply # 265
Wed Sep-03-08 04:41 AM by LA2Philly

I wouldn't even be able to go out there and try to spin this shit without laughing and being embarassed.

My fav part is when the one girl(the non-senator) tries to chime in when Carville was talking about Pallin being unqualified. Carville has been stating the whole time that this baby stuff is a non-issue and lists numerous things that he finds as legitimate problems with his credentials. This lady says "how does having a pregnant daughter make her unqualified?" Was she not listening? Are you joking me? Talk about selective attention, sheesh.

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Tue Sep-02-08 04:30 PM

278. "ya'll know sarah palin's on twitter? (link)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tue Sep-02-08 04:40 PM by al_sharp

http://twitter.com/fakesarahpalin

lol...amazing.

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Maroon Tiger 2
Member since Oct 22nd 2004
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:46 PM

284. "Palin says the iraqi war is messianic in nature, god's will (swipe)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tue Sep-02-08 04:47 PM by Maroon Tiger 2

oh lord...

Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.

Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.

Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

Palin's address, much of which was spent reflecting on the work of the church in which she grew up and was baptized, underscores the notion that her world view is deeply impacted by religion. In turn, her remarks raise important questions: mainly, what is Palin's faith and how exactly has it influenced her policies?

A review of recorded sermons by Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999, offers a provocative and, for some, eyebrow-raising sketch of Palin's longtime spiritual home

The church runs a number of ministries providing help to poor neighborhoods, care for children in need, and general community services. But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that position of war mode."

It is impossible to determine how much Wasilla Assembly of God has shaped Palin's thinking. She was baptized there at the age of 12 and attended the church for most of her adult life. When Palin was inaugurated as governor, the founding pastor of the church delivered the invocation. In 2002, Palin moved her family to a nondenominational church, but she continues to worship at a related Assembly of God church in Juneau.

Moreover, she "has maintained a friendship with Wasilla Assembly of God and has attended various conferences and special meetings here," Kalnins' office said in a statement. "As for her personal beliefs," the statement added, "Governor Palin is well able to speak for herself on those issues."

Clearly, however, Palin views the church as the source of an important, if sometimes politically explosive, message. "Having grown up here, and having little kids grow up here also, this is such a special, special place," she told the congregation in June. "What comes from this church I think has great destiny."

And if the political storm over Barack Obama's former pastor Jeremiah Wright is any indication, Palin may face some political fallout over the more controversial teachings of Wasilla Assembly of God.

If the church had a political alignment, it would almost surely be conservative. In his sermons, Kalnins did not hide his affections for certain national politicians.

During the 2004 election season, he praised President Bush's performance during a debate with Sen. John Kerry, then offered a not-so-subtle message about his personal candidate preferences. "I'm not going tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I'm sorry." Kalnins added: "If every Christian will vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time."

Months after hinting at possible damnation for Kerry supporters, Kalnins bristled at the treatment President Bush was receiving over the federal government's handling of Hurricane Katrina. "I hate criticisms towards the President," he said, "because it's like criticisms towards the pastor -- it's almost like, it's not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That's what it'll get you."

Much of his support for the current administration has come in the realm of foreign affairs. Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq were part of a "world war" over the Christian faith, one in which Jesus Christ had called upon believers to be willing to sacrifice their lives.

What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode." Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he's like the good shepherd, he's loving all the time and he's kind all the time. Oh yes he is -- but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war.

As for his former congregant and current vice presidential candidate, Kalnins has asserted that Palin's election as governor was the result of a "prophetic call" by another pastor at the church who prayed for her victory. " a prophetic declaration and then unfolds the kingdom of God, you know."

Even Palin expressed surprise at that pastor's advocacy for her candidacy. "He was praying over me," she said in June. "He's praying, 'Lord make a way, Lord make a way...' And I'm thinking, this guy's really bold, he doesn't even know what I'm gonna do, he doesn't know what my plans are, and he's praying not, 'Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor,' or whatever. No, he just prayed for it. He said, 'Lord, make a way, and let her do this next step.' And that's exactly what happened. So, again, very very powerful coming from this church."

In his sermons, Pastor Kalnins has also expressed beliefs that, while not directly political, lie outside of mainstream Christian thought.

He preaches repeatedly about the "end times" or "last days," an apocalyptic prophesy held by a small but vocal group of Christian leaders. During his appearance with Palin in June, he declared, "I believe Alaska is one of the refuge states in the last days, and hundreds of thousands of people are going to come to the state to seek refuge and the church has to be ready to minister to them."

He also claims to have received direct "words of knowledge" from God, providing him information about past events in other people's lives. During one sermon, he described being paired with a complete stranger during a golf outing. "I said, I'm a minister from Alaska and I want you to know that your wife left you -- you know that your wife left you and that the Lord is gonna defend you in a very short time, and it wasn't your fault. And the man drops his clubs, he literally was about to tee off and he dropped his clubs, and he says, 'Who the blank are you?' And I says, 'well, I'm a minister.' He says, 'how do you know about my life? What do you know?' And I started giving him more of the word of knowledge to his life and he was freaked out."

Kalnins has, of course, preached on a bevy of topics ranging from humility to "overcoming bitterness." But the more controversial remarks reported above were not out of the norm, appearing in numerous sermons spanning the four years of available recordings.

As for Palin, her views on these topics is more opaque. In the wake of the controversy over Jeremiah Wright, a debate has raged about whether political figures should be held responsible for the comments of their religious guiders. Clearly, however, Kalnins, like many national conservative religious leaders, sees Alaska's governor as one of his own. "Gov. Sarah Palin is the real deal," he told his church this past summer. "You know, some people put on a show...but she's the real deal."

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Tue Sep-02-08 05:48 PM

310. "What is the link for this?"
In response to Reply # 284

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Member since Oct 22nd 2004
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:23 PM

318. "whoops sorry....article and video link..."
In response to Reply # 310

>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:47 PM

285. "daily kos: this palin photo wins the election for obama (swipe)"
In response to Reply # 0

the photo:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u101/kubla000/319098225_e3fb99541f.jpg

the story:
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/111856/4117/498/583254

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Tue Sep-02-08 04:50 PM

287. "lol...shit looks like a highway rest area stop."
In response to Reply # 285
Tue Sep-02-08 04:50 PM by al_sharp

and not one of the good ones either...one of the ones that just has a bathroom and a water fountain and maybe a vending machine.

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Tue Sep-02-08 04:51 PM

288. "dawg.....is that a Dairy Queen? Bwahahahahahaha!!!!"
In response to Reply # 285

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:52 PM

291. "would you like fries with that legislation?"
In response to Reply # 288

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:00 PM

294. "even more pictures! LOL!!"
In response to Reply # 285

it looks like you can buy lottery tickets in there! LOL!!

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Tue Sep-02-08 05:04 PM

295. "The Carville photo cracks me up"
In response to Reply # 285

I love how you can see just his eyes, omg lmao
I stil can't figure out if he's black or white either

I tell you this woman has made me laugh more than I ever have in my life

I just have fits of laughter every day at all the new stuff
It just does NOT stop! hahahahahahahaha

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OldPro
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:05 PM

296. "I'll take a building permit and a coke"
In response to Reply # 285

would you like a hot apple pie with that?

why yes I would mayor, thank you
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:32 PM

301. ""
In response to Reply # 285

Sig Vicious
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J_Stew
Member since Jul 06th 2002
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Wed Sep-03-08 12:17 AM

344. "looks like you can buy beer via drive thru!"
In response to Reply # 285

damn i just might vote for the reps now(JK)

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LAbeathustla
Member since Jan 24th 2004
33858 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 04:59 PM

293. "ok..i'm fkn convinced palin gave mccain that good head the one time"
In response to Reply # 0

they met...or had a fkn threesome with him and his wifey...

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Tue Sep-02-08 05:11 PM

298. "Cindy Mc Cain looks like a grown version of those kids from"
In response to Reply # 293

Village of the Damned
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/mrjeffpoo/village-of-the-damned-kids.jpg

Act like the little one on the left isn't her spitting image

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Tue Sep-02-08 06:01 PM

313. "Vicodin will do that to you"
In response to Reply # 298

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M2
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:09 PM

297. "Isn't it Ironic that she's for Abstinence education and..........."
In response to Reply # 0

....and her daughter is pregnant?

If she had put her daughter on the pill, she could be getting ready for college instead of having a baby and entering into a situation with a small chance of success (the marriage + their finances).

Just saying

Her family is the poster child for why abstinence only is a bad idea

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Tue Sep-02-08 07:31 PM

327. "so ironic. and so true."
In response to Reply # 297

but obviously her daughters best interest is clouded by conservative rhetoric.

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theprofessional
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:11 PM

299. "washington post: palin's car wash business FAILED in 2006 (swipe)"
In response to Reply # 0
Tue Sep-02-08 05:15 PM by theprofessional

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_car_wash.html

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she wants to be vice president of the united states....

AND SHE CAN'T EVEN RUN A CAR WASH?!?!!?!

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OldPro
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34401 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 05:18 PM

300. "LOL @ this part here"
In response to Reply # 299

"The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal."

Come on, this is a big joke right? They have no intention of really adding this woman to the ticket ........ do they?
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LAbeathustla
Member since Jan 24th 2004
33858 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 05:37 PM

304. "a car wash in alaska?...great idea"
In response to Reply # 299

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OldPro
Member since Dec 10th 2002
34401 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 05:41 PM

306. "RE: a car wash in alaska?...great idea"
In response to Reply # 304

lol u know i didn't even think about that. yeah those winter months would be pretty "lean"

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theprofessional
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Wed Sep-03-08 07:22 AM

354. "her original idea was mrs. plow's snow removal service"
In response to Reply # 304

call mrs. plow
that's her name
that name again is mrs. plow

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paragon216
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:32 PM

302. "Levi goes to the convention!"
In response to Reply # 0

Levi Johnston to join Palin family at convention
Bristol Palin's boyfriend left Alaska Tuesday morning
The Associated Press
updated 5:16 p.m. ET, Tues., Sept. 2, 2008

WASILLA, Alaska - Bristol Palin's boyfriend plans to join the family of the Republican vice presidential candidate at the convention in Minnesota.

Levi Johnston's mother said her 18-year-old son left Alaska on Tuesday morning to join the Palin family in St. Paul.

Sherry Johnston also said there has been no pressure put on her son to marry Bristol Palin, the pregnant daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

"Absolutely not," Sherry Johnston told reporters outside the family's Wasilla home. Johnston said the two teens already had plans to marry before they knew she was pregnant.

Sarah Palin announced Monday that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter was pregnant. The father was not identified beyond the first name of Levi.
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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LAbeathustla
Member since Jan 24th 2004
33858 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 05:45 PM

307. ""grandma..secret service is at the door. talkin bout a shotgun wedding""
In response to Reply # 302

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Natural Mystic
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Wed Sep-03-08 12:47 AM

347. "LOL"
In response to Reply # 307

______

'no. you dont understand.

i aint SCARED of you motherfuckers.' � Bernie Mac

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bshelly
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:45 PM

308. "oh. my. fucking. God."
In response to Reply # 302

----
bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

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OldPro
Member since Dec 10th 2002
34401 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 05:49 PM

311. "riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight"
In response to Reply # 302

"Sherry Johnston also said there has been no pressure put on her son to marry Bristol Palin, the pregnant daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin."
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theprofessional
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Wed Sep-03-08 07:27 AM

355. "THEY TURNIN' THE RNC INTO A JERRY SPRINGER EPISODE!!!!!"
In response to Reply # 302

i can't possibly think of a worse idea than to invite the dude who knocked up your daughter to your vice presidential acceptance speech. i mean, wtf's next? john mccain saving the last night of the convention to reveal the results of the DNA test?

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bshelly
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:47 PM

309. "i just need to say it once: this bitch is a HORRIBLE mom"
In response to Reply # 0

not because her kid got pregnant.

because her unwed teenage daughter got pregnant and palin still decided to run, even knowing what it would do to her daughter.

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KosherSam
Member since Mar 18th 2004
70132 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 06:16 PM

316. "If i were that girl, i would HATE my mother"
In response to Reply # 309

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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OldPro
Member since Dec 10th 2002
34401 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 06:31 PM

320. "I feel sorry as hell for that girl"
In response to Reply # 316

how trapped must she fell right about now?

hell the kid that knocked her up too
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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
132214 posts

Wed Sep-03-08 06:07 AM

353. "Missing Mom (equivalent to Bad Dad)"
In response to Reply # 309

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KosherSam
Member since Mar 18th 2004
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Wed Sep-03-08 08:05 AM

360. "can I get a (c) on that?"
In response to Reply # 353

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

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eldealo
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10110 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 05:55 PM

312. "Video (LINK) - Palin speaking for the Alaskan Independence Party.."
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8
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al_sharp
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:07 PM

314. "i guess windbreakers are still in style up thurr in alaska."
In response to Reply # 312

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OldPro
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:18 PM

317. "What's more ironic?"
In response to Reply # 312
Tue Sep-02-08 06:20 PM by OldPro

The fact she promotes abstinence but has a pregnant teenage daughter?

or

The fact she is affiliated with a party who's motto is "Alaska First" while running with a man who's slogan is "Country First" ?

We've said this over and over but you really couldn't make this shit up lol

And these people are batshit crazy. Here's a swipe of their home page. And the spelling errors just make them all the more "real" just like Sarah Palin.

Welcome to the home of
The Alaskan Independence Party

We are the only Alaskan political party that is entirely comprised of Alaskans, staffed by Alaskans and financed by Alaskans. We are not affiliated with any political party with a similiar sounding name in other parts of the United States.

The continual growth of membership of the Alaskan Independence Party has created one of the largest third parties in the United states. We used to be the largest, so we are trying harder to regain that position. Join us as we lead Alaska to the prosperity and freedom that Alaskans expect, deserve and should enjoy.

The AIP is Proud to support Bob Bird for the Senate of the United States. For more information on Mr. Bird, please visit his web site. We have also endorsed the Presidential candidacy of the Constitution Party, Charles Baldwin.

The Alaskan Independence Party can be summed up in just two words:
ALASKA FIRST!

Until we as Alaskans receive our Ultimate Goal, the AIP will continue to strive to make Alaska a better place to live with less government interference in our everyday lives.

The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:

1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

The call for this vote is in furtherance of the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party's founding father, Joe Vogler, which was for Alaskans to achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences.
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Marauder21
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:07 PM

315. "Damn, I wanted to rock my Duck Hunt avy, but this Palin thing made me"
In response to Reply # 0

change it.

FREE ALASKA NOW!

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Harmonia
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:34 PM

321. "i gotta cosign with sixteenstone"
In response to Reply # 0

i am really laughing my ass off over here

i take my politics very seriously and to the heart, but this is just too funny

it's like i can't wait for the next thing to come out about Palin

just when I thought I heard the most GTFOH shit, then comes more...

keep 'em coming guys

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LAbeathustla
Member since Jan 24th 2004
33858 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 06:43 PM

322. "this blog is pretty interesting..i believe its from where shes from"
In response to Reply # 321
Tue Sep-02-08 06:44 PM by LAbeathustla

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/

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s_dot_miles
Member since Dec 26th 2003
3714 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 06:48 PM

323. "Why doesnt Hill-Dawg go IN on Palin?"
In response to Reply # 0

if Barack or Biden go at her its seen as sexist, but its a win if Hillary goes at her.

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Marauder21
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:50 PM

325. "I'm sure she will down the stretch"
In response to Reply # 323

Assuming Palin's still the running mate in October

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gluvnast
Member since Nov 19th 2006
2367 posts

Tue Sep-02-08 07:35 PM

329. "judging by the latest boost in polls there's no need so far"
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Marauder21
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:49 PM

324. "She wanted to ban books? (link)"
In response to Reply # 0

There go my "Sarah Palin naughty librarian" fantasies.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

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SunDevil
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Tue Sep-02-08 07:17 PM

326. "RE: She wanted to ban books? (link)"
In response to Reply # 324

lol @ this clip of the mccain manager calling Palin "governor Failin" @ 24 second mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP6TdgjVKAQ

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Harmonia
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:12 PM

331. "lol"
In response to Reply # 326

someone's gotta sample that shit

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theprofessional
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Wed Sep-03-08 07:31 AM

356. "^^^^^^^^^^NICKNAME FOUND: GOVERNOR FAILIN"
In response to Reply # 326

LOL!!!!!! i'm absolutely positively done, y'all. sarah failin. i'm done. i'm dying. i quit the internet.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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astron b
Member since Dec 24th 2005
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:27 PM

333. "RE: Talk About Sarah Palin Here."
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She reminds me of a reform porn star.

I bet she smells like wet pennies..

I give her FOUR THUMBS DOWN!!!

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gluvnast
Member since Nov 19th 2006
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:32 PM

334. "mccain campaign reniged on larry king interview"
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because they're pissed on cambell brown's ethering on palin's experience

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Mr Mystery
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:42 PM

336. "Hold up she had a marketing company called Red Neck?"
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Palin's gubernatorial disclosure filings also reveal her involvement in another failed startup -- a marketing business which was to go by the name Rouge Cou, which evidently is a literal French translation of "red neck." On the 2005 form, Palin describes the firm as one for which she secured a license but did not conduct any business.

i mean COME ON (GOB STYLE)

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Warren Coolidge
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:03 PM

339. "If you saw Pallenti speak on Pallin.."
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someone from MSNBC was interviewing the Gov. of Minnesota, Tim Pallenti....and he some this about Pallin..

"How can you blame her for her 17 year old daughter getting pregnant?"

right there is the basis of the right wing hypocrisy...We are about family values...we are about personal responsiblity....but only concerning other people..not us.

when you teenage minor daughter gets pregnant while she is living under your roof...under your supervision and guidence...it is YOUR responsibility as a parent..when they fukk up..it's on YOU...

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Apollo Kid
Member since Apr 10th 2006
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:47 PM

343. "could somebody give me a brief recap of this shit?"
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i know palin is mccain's new vp and her daughter is 17 and pregnant.

i don't wanna go through 300+ posts and a bunch of links.

thanks.

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theprofessional
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Wed Sep-03-08 07:32 AM

357. "read all 300 posts, you'll thank yourself later"
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"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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sixteenstone
Member since Sep 22nd 2002
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Wed Sep-03-08 07:39 AM

358. "trust me you do want to go through all of em"
In response to Reply # 343

each one is funnier than the last one

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J_Stew
Member since Jul 06th 2002
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Wed Sep-03-08 12:35 AM

345. "ponder this:"
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By McCain picking Palin, it shows he is actually more concerned with winning an election, than he is about the future of the United States of America. This is supposedly the most positive thing about the man, that he is a patriot, a war hero, and would do anything to protect the safety of the country and he goes and does something like this.

This might not be a news flash to us on OKP but seriously let that sink in.

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Wed Sep-03-08 01:11 AM

348. "^"
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al_sharp
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:31 AM

349. "8 Reasons Sarah Palin Is More Qualified Than Barack Obama (swipe)"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-grahamesmith/8-reasons-sarah-palin-is_b_123294.html

Sarah Palin (sp?) has ignited the presidential race and fired up the GOP -- as evidenced by three women at the RNC who took the time to print the words "We," "Love," and "Sarah" on pieces of paper and tape them to the backs of their t-shirts. Sarah's even won the backing of the level-headed Rep. Michele Bachmann (R- MN) -- not exactly known for toeing the party line. Clearly, the liberal left realizes that it can't match this kind of unbridled enthusiasm for its candidate. So what are they doing? Attacking her character. Questioning her qualifications. Imagine a political group attacking an opponent because it can't win on the issues or the record. It's disgusting.

So let's set the record straight. Sarah Pahlen (sp?) is not only more qualified for the Oval Office than Barack Obama -- she might just be the most qualified political candidate in our nation's history:

1. Putting Country First - Her membership in the Alaska Independence Party proves that she's exactly the kind of leader America needs: the kind that will always put country first -- even if that country happens to be The Republic of Alaska. Obama claims he loves America -- but has he ever loved it enough to favor seceding from it? It's called tough love, Senator. Look into it.

2. Independence - Sarah hates indicted Senator Ted Stevens, but raised money for him. She hates the "bridge to nowhere," but supported it. She wants to shatter Hillary's glass ceiling, but wears t-shirts touting the size of her boobs. We're dealing with an innovative politician; one who refuses to be categorized. Obama may call himself the candidate of "change," but Sarah Pailen's (sp?) entire political life has been about saying one thing, and then doing another. Now that's "change we can believe in."

3. Family Values - This is someone who's not afraid to preach abstinence for your daughter, even though her own unmarried 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. This is someone who's not afraid to hop on a plane from Texas to Alaska while she's in premature labor. This is someone who's not afraid to hit the campaign trail with a 5-month-old special needs baby. That's what I call dedication to family. Obama, on the other hand? A Muslim.

4. Intellect - Yes, Sarah recently admitted that she didn't know exactly what it was the Vice President did. Yes, she wants creationism taught in public schools. Yes, she doesn't believe global warming is manmade. But I'd like to point out the fact that she wears glasses -- and that's not something dumb people generally do. Obama? No glasses.

5. Military Affairs - As Governor, Pollen (sp?) is authorized to deploy Alaska's National Guard in times of emergency. And while the Guard's Adjunct General admits that she plays no role in national defense, and isn't briefed on military exercises, the fact is -- she's been photographed holding a machine gun, while Obama has yet to wield so much as a .38 for the cameras. When it comes to keeping me safe, that's all I need to know.

6. Foreign Affairs - While Obama likes to take Middle East tours, meet with Europe's leaders, and brag about his running mate being the foreign policy voice of the Senate, he can't hold a candle to Palenn's (sp?) understanding of today's complex, dangerous world. Yes, Sarah admitted that she hadn't paid much attention to the war in Iraq, but she knew enough to rightly call it a "task from God." Yes, she's only left North America once in her life, but her experience as a local sportscaster gave her the ability to follow events as they unfold at lightning speed. And as Cindy McCain pointed out, while Barack Obama was sipping lattes in Cambridge Square, Sarah Pinkston (sp?) was staring down the barrel of Putin's Kalashnikov -- a one woman wall keeping America safe from invasion.

7. Restoring America's Image - Who better than a former beauty queen to add some new luster to America's battered image? Paylen (sp?) will take a proverbial can of Aqua Net to our nation's unruly hair, and apply liberal (no pun intended) amounts of blush to Lady Liberty's cheekbones. In a word, she'll dazzle the world with her charm and style. Even the most anti-Western extremists will melt when they see the People and Vanity Fair spreads of Sarah warming her fur-lined extremities over burning science textbooks. And how would Obama restore our leadership in the world? The question we should be asking is: why does he only have two children, while Sarah has at least twice that number? What does Senator Obama have against America's children?

8. Her Soul - In one 15-minute meeting, and one follow-up phone call, John McCain was able to determine that Sarah was more than his running mate -- she was his "soul mate." Not only that, but that she was more qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office than any Republican on earth. Yes, this is a testament to the power and quickness of McCain's decision making. But it's also a testament to the power of Sarah Payton's (sp?) soul. As a Muslim, it's not even clear that Obama has a soul.

So is Sarah Pillston (sp?) qualified to be Vice President? To be one bad biopsy away from being the most powerful human being on earth? To lead America back to prominence and prosperity, while keeping us safe from a world of ever-changing threats?

In her own words: "Yup...yup."

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Kira
Member since Nov 14th 2004
28849 posts

Wed Sep-03-08 01:42 AM

350. "This is like a bad dream that won't end."
In response to Reply # 349

Fuck this pick and I'm a Republican. I'm shocked that we haven't pulled in the angry white women who wanted Obama to lose.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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theprofessional
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Wed Sep-03-08 07:44 AM

359. "she's the gift that keeps on giving"
In response to Reply # 349

i fully expect to wake up tomorrow morning to find out she owns a strip club in wasilla and has six toes.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

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mrshow
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Wed Sep-03-08 01:51 AM

351. "Sarah's church (swipe)"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palestinian-attack-in-isr_n_123297.html

After several months of scrutinizing Barack Obama's former place of worship, reporters are now taking a close look at Alaskan churches frequented by presumptive Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

As the Huffington Post reported earlier Tuesday, Palin addressed a gathering at the Wasilla Assembly of God, asking them to pray for oil pipeline development and "God's will" in Iraq. Meanwhile, the Boston Herald and Newsweek have both identified Wasilla Bible Church as the Alaska Governor's most recent church. And it was at that Bible Church where a recent guest described a Palestinian attack on Israeli citizens as part of God's judgment coming to pass on Earth -- an analysis likely troubling both to Jews, as well as to mainstream foreign policy analysts.

Describing a trip by his son to Jerusalem, Jews for Jesus founder David Brickner described the a July Palestinian bulldozer attack against Israeli civilians as part of God's "judgment."

That speech, from August 17, is posted on the church's website, along with all other recent addresses delivered to the congregation.

In a talk entitled "The Jerusalem Dilemma," Brickner also went on to describe all of the problems in the Middle East as related to Jerusalem. "But what we see in Israel, the conflict that is spilled through the Middle East, really which is all about Jerusalem, is an ongoing reflection of the fact that there is judgment," Brickner told Palin's church, adding: "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When Isaac was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it."

Listen to Brickner here.

Brickner's analysis tracks with various other strains of evangelist Christian eschatology, but finds decidedly less favor in foreign policy circles. With Gov. Palin's views on foreign policy mostly unknown, and the McCain campaign thus far ill disposed to the idea of making her available to the national press, it's unclear how much stock she personally puts in Brickner's theory. An email to the McCain campaign asking for clarification was not immediately returned.

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mermaid
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Wed Sep-03-08 09:11 AM

362. "can i just say that i'm tired of these repub women using sexism"
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as a crutch! there's a larry king video someone posted up where these women (defending palin) are trying to blatantly interject sexism whenever anyone argues that palin isn't qualified for vp.

this is grating my nerves so bad...i just wish someone would call them out on that stupidity once and for all so they'll stop that dumb isht!!!

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