I went back to "Rappers Delight" to see where Jay Dee could've taken his stuff. To my surprise : ALL drumsounds can be found CLEAN in "Rappers Delight".
- Every second clap in the intro is clean.
- Hihat-loop clean (right after the clean clap).
- A few kicks in the same intro have NO BASS underneath 'm, so : clean as well.


Here's the evidence :

first, the entire loop where the samples have been taken from :
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/fulloop.mp3


Now, here's the part where the kick is ...
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/kickloop.mp3

It sounds like the kick is everything but clean, BUT ... when you chop it up, this is what you find :
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/kick.mp3
... as clean as can be ...

The clap and hihat are even more open and clean :
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/claphihatloop.mp3

Chopped up, this gives us ...
a) the clap
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/clap.mp3

b) the hihat
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/hihat.mp3
(the hihat has a lot of low frequency, so this needs to be taken care of when mixing)


Now, if we put all these drumsounds together and program it like JayDee did, you get something like this :
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/PLAYER_BEAT.mp3

or ... a more crispy version, with different EQ for the hihats :
http://users.skynet.be/krewcial/JAYDEE_PLAYER/PLAYER_BEAT_2.mp3


Now you go out and try it for yourself children !


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this will be the greatest lesson post since 81 reasons jay-z is the king

that oxygen joint is flavor too

model for other lesson posts.

"scalpel...check, phonograph....check,....mask...check,....QUIET I NEED SILENCE"-KREWCIAL dissecting "Rappers Delight"

I feel you.....
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Set Mc's up so the topple
Wobble like a deflected spiral or needle to warped vinal
Viral like contaminated spinal
Fluid untapped/lungs lined wit Gortex-heat trap my raps
The golden age of MCin is done we whats left of..
unrealeased,unsigned comin out wit a best of..
vocal engravements available for any festive occasion
roughing out the smooth spots wit maximim abrasion'militant like Malasians and Indonesions in Cleveland
It't the same 1 God we believe in without seein like internal breathin
relievin Mc's on the night shift
mic is ny nightstick
voice pepper spray get stabbed wit a bic rounded
didnt say stick cuz I ain't like the way it sounded......

Algebra of the Iron Triangle-D.E.F.

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1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
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little time

once again questo has been foiled.


thanks brain.....



ill shit quotes said to questlove.

"of course that motherfucker ain't going to war.....he can't fit the fucking helmet over his head"
-mos def on why i told ed gordon why i won't fight for my country.


Q: you two ever say more than hi?
T: oh, i asked him what time he needed the band back & I also asked him if we were going to dinner with the band after the wasted 9 hour rehearsal day
Q: those 3 questions? damn...d must be the consumate artist than. at least he socializes with us small folk.
T: he's a separatist. NO ONE likes him
T: it's crazy
Q: so when he walks into the room does it get silenced?
T: yup
T: think Chris Rock Bigger & Blacker. This is what happens on the radio when he comes in
T: ""He's 10 min away..
he's at the traffic light
hes backing in.....
make sure (cenosred) isn't in the walk way....
He's in the drive way
T: "He's coming thru....
I got shot by an officer ..
I'm hopping in...
I'm here...
I love uuuuuuuuu
Q: for real?
Q: make sure he dosn't see (censored)?
T: for real
T: oh yeah..."because he'd be hot" He didn't even speak. he has no meet & greets
Q: oh lawd...i heard he made (censored and censored)do the same shit....funny when y'all go to richmond make sure you know who is watchng him
Q: hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
T: he may cry
Q: lol!!!!!!!!! i got a new sig....
T: no (censored and censored) stood on the side of the stage intimidating him...he's precious you know
Q: hey....you heard denzel
Q: a wolf or a sheep?
T: oh, please sheep

my convo with T about life on the road with the big M.



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(the roots present...) 2004
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>thanks brain.....

lol! i had nothing to do with this!

he IM'd me this morning asking for assistance.

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dear friend Brainchild,

you voluntarily (sp?) offered your services, and even suggested that I'd remake the entire beat, including "Clair" samples.

don't back off now

hehe ...


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But as a producer, I just had to show it ain't that hard

This doesn't mean "Players" ain't impressive, but as most people on this thread, I think what JayDee did with the "Clair" sample is more innovative/impressive than the way he made the actual drumbeat.

To me (and I guess most people who've been producing or listening to hiphop longer than 8-10 years) sampling the classic drumbreaks is no longer fun, so you kinda develop a sixth sense for those 100 milliseconds where a kick or hihat is clean/open.




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yeah, sampling classic drumbraks is no fun...but digging for new ones that nobody has used and looping/chopping those, now that's fun!

not on krewcial's part--that was impressive--but on the part of Jay-Dee. I do shit like this all the time. Whats the big deal? i give him more credit for the loop----that was nasty.

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>not on krewcial's part--that was impressive--but
>on the part of Jay-Dee.
>I do shit like this
>all the time. Whats the
>big deal? i give him
>more credit for the loop----that
>was nasty.

No shit!!! Me too. The drum shit is nice, but the loop is what got me.

Kyle

"Yo...on The Amen, Corner I stood, lookin at my former hood. Felt the spirit in the wind, knew my friend was gone for good. Threw dirt on the casket, the hurt, I couldn't mask it
Mixin down emotions, struggle I hadn't mastered. I coreograph seven steps to heaven. And hell, waiting to exhale and make the bread leavened. Veteran of a cold war It's Chica-I-go for. What I know or, what's known. So some days I take the bus home, just to touch home. From the crib I spend months gone. Sat by the window with a clutched dome listenin' to shorties cuss long. Young girls with weak minds, but they butt strong. Tried to call, or at least beep the Lord, but didn't have a touch-tone
It's a dog-eat-dog world, you gotta mush on. Some of this land I must own
Outta the city, they want us gone Tearin' down the 'jects creatin plush homes. My circumstance is between Cabrini and Love Jones. Surrounded by hate, yet I love home. Ask my God how he thought travellin the world sound Found it hard to imagine he hadn't been past downtown. It's deep, I heard the city breathe in its sleep. Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep. Deep, I heard my man breathe in his sleep. Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep"--Common

as nasty as it is, I cant call it one of the top5 creative beats or whatever it is u called it. but im no jay dee hater. I just think he needs to get some undeniable classics/bangers under his belt before he can claim best ever.

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Thursday, June 17th
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6 Delancey Street (at Bowery)
w/Addison Groove Project &
Gutbucket
10PM~$13
DUJEOUS debut LP "CITY
LIMITS" INSTOSNOW.
Buy my shit.

Drums aren't that hard to jack. It's quite easy with enough practice to jack a hi-hat from a haystack of nonsense around it.

The funny shit is when you're trying to jack some drums and you can tell the producer is making an obvious effort to prevent people from doing just that. Primo did a good job of covering his shit for a while on Royalty....I was like "fuck" then he gives you that little break in the eye of the storm for the bassdrum, hihat, and snare.

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we spend hours doing this shit...and its all worth it!

krewc...not good stuff...great stuff! if i could find my copy of rappers delight
i would have tried it too...lol

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You can listen to Def Squad's version, 'Def Squad Delight' to give you an idea of what these cats are talkin about. They kept it pretty true to the original...



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Hank Hill: My, God! Dale, you're alive!!
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"...Whateva, man..." (c) Redman

you dont know how wild Im going in here, I feel like im in the studio with master producers

archive this, this made my day

--
Jesse Thorn / Host
The Sound of Young America
Thursdays 8-9 AM KZSC 88.1 Santa Cruz
http://www.splangy.com

"This album is by far the greatest piece of writing, arranging, producing, and sequencing genius I've ever encountered. Anyone who has heard the first two Swamp Dogg albums will possibly say impossible, but after listening to this one will make the cross-over to incredible. The only album that may possibly compare with this one is the one that I'm contemplating doing the late future. Everything that is neccessary to make an album I have; Ego, talent, originality, humor, and I am dynamic, articulate, defiant, altruistic, considerate, warm, wonderful, & humble... I have also been a Grammy nominee for the past two years. I'm also a Cancer (July 12) and twenty nine years in the world. What you've just read is my trip, and if you can't tolerate it, that's your trip."
-- Swamp Dogg, from the liner notes to his album, "Cuffed, Collared, & Tagged"

-
Bullseye with Jesse Thorn
A public radio show about things that are awesome.
http://www.maximumfun.org
"This is the kind of show people listen to in a more perfect world." - McSweeney's

seriously.
great post.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
ain't no blood in my body,:
it's liquid soul in my veins :

we do one of these a month, for the production fans who know no tricks of the trade

>>for the production fans who know no tricks of the trade

this was a tasty treat, but heds is gon get used to 'freebies' and FUCK DAT! When was the last time you seen a magician giving out his secrets to 'magic fans'? uh uh.....I had to learn 'on-the-job' like e'rybody else..unless you took a course. This was a cool post, and it should be left at that. ONE TO GROW ON for all the beatdiggaz...myself included.




Dale: when I blacked-out, was anything inserted into any of my orifices?
Hank Hill: My, God! Dale, you're alive!!
Dale: ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

IG: amadu_me

"...Whateva, man..." (c) Redman

a nice post full of samples floating around...

For real, I got all excited when quest first mentioned this only to play the record and hear some very clean samples. I'm as big a Jay-Dee fan (supporter, whatever) as the next but Players was the one track that I gotta admit not feeling that much. I dunno...just didn't sit right...

kinda useless post

peace


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Watch someone jack these drums.

hack the okaysystem, and delete this post from all records, before Jay hunts down Krewcial and kills him

Kyle

"Yo...on The Amen, Corner I stood, lookin at my former hood. Felt the spirit in the wind, knew my friend was gone for good. Threw dirt on the casket, the hurt, I couldn't mask it
Mixin down emotions, struggle I hadn't mastered. I coreograph seven steps to heaven. And hell, waiting to exhale and make the bread leavened. Veteran of a cold war It's Chica-I-go for. What I know or, what's known. So some days I take the bus home, just to touch home. From the crib I spend months gone. Sat by the window with a clutched dome listenin' to shorties cuss long. Young girls with weak minds, but they butt strong. Tried to call, or at least beep the Lord, but didn't have a touch-tone
It's a dog-eat-dog world, you gotta mush on. Some of this land I must own
Outta the city, they want us gone Tearin' down the 'jects creatin plush homes. My circumstance is between Cabrini and Love Jones. Surrounded by hate, yet I love home. Ask my God how he thought travellin the world sound Found it hard to imagine he hadn't been past downtown. It's deep, I heard the city breathe in its sleep. Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep. Deep, I heard my man breathe in his sleep. Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep"--Common

?uest owns the system..why would he have to hack?

lord

much love,
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>?uest owns the system..why would he
>have to hack?
>
>lord

Oh shit...you know what i mean.

Kyle

"Yo...on The Amen, Corner I stood, lookin at my former hood. Felt the spirit in the wind, knew my friend was gone for good. Threw dirt on the casket, the hurt, I couldn't mask it
Mixin down emotions, struggle I hadn't mastered. I coreograph seven steps to heaven. And hell, waiting to exhale and make the bread leavened. Veteran of a cold war It's Chica-I-go for. What I know or, what's known. So some days I take the bus home, just to touch home. From the crib I spend months gone. Sat by the window with a clutched dome listenin' to shorties cuss long. Young girls with weak minds, but they butt strong. Tried to call, or at least beep the Lord, but didn't have a touch-tone
It's a dog-eat-dog world, you gotta mush on. Some of this land I must own
Outta the city, they want us gone Tearin' down the 'jects creatin plush homes. My circumstance is between Cabrini and Love Jones. Surrounded by hate, yet I love home. Ask my God how he thought travellin the world sound Found it hard to imagine he hadn't been past downtown. It's deep, I heard the city breathe in its sleep. Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep. Deep, I heard my man breathe in his sleep. Of reality I touch, but for me it's hard to keep"--Common

he might as well kill ?uest for telling us it was "Rapper's Delight" then

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...thinking when I read ?uest's post that one could definitely get at least a kick and a clap from Rapper's Delight.

Alek

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you think I chopped it for a meager 30 replies ?

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much love,
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http://walk.lupusresearch.org/goto/blackeyedskeez

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;-)


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