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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Was there really a gang in Minneapolis that gets high on crack and..."


  

          

shoots Machine guns? If so is said gang called the Disciples?

Kind of seems like a tall tale to me. I'm just sayin.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Ohhhhhhh yeah!
Nov 18th 2017
1
well this is fucking weird, i listened to that shit last week
Nov 18th 2017
2
I know of the Chicago Gang the Black Disciples
Nov 20th 2017
4
kinda why it never made the
Nov 19th 2017
3
Thanks for this. You should share this on your other socials medias
Nov 20th 2017
5
Well, this is getting archived
Nov 20th 2017
6
Question
Nov 20th 2017
7
thanks 4 sharing that...
Nov 22nd 2017
8
What do you mean we aren’t sending people to the moon
Nov 24th 2017
11
      the last time we sent people to the moon was in 1972.
Nov 27th 2017
12
      RE: What do you mean we aren’t sending people to the moon
Nov 28th 2017
15
Can someone explain wth this is about?
Nov 23rd 2017
9
um, yes?
Nov 24th 2017
10
Crack laced blunts well known phenomenon.
Nov 28th 2017
13
The Black Disciples in Chicago
Nov 28th 2017
14

mrhood75
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1. "Ohhhhhhh yeah!"
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araQual
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2. "well this is fucking weird, i listened to that shit last week"
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and google'd cos i wanted to know the answer to that as well. this is the closest i got:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/black-disciples-gang-leader-sentenced-15-years-prison-drug-distribution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster_Disciples.

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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4. "I know of the Chicago Gang the Black Disciples"
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I kind of figured that was what the reference was to.

It's the high on crack shooting machine guns that threw me off. Crackheads have a hard time working in organizations, and access to military-style machine guns are hard to come by.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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3. "kinda why it never made the "
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curtis/marvin pantheon in my mind

always felt like P's grip on reality w hood issues by this point was like dudes that looked like The Furious 5 or extras in the Bad video.


In France a skinny man
Died of a big disease with a little name
By chance his girlfriend came across a needle
And soon she did the same
At home there are seventeen-year-old boys
And their idea of fun
Is being in a gang called The Disciples

(to this point I was aboard).....



High on crack, totin' a machine gun

(....then he walked it back for me, I know he has 2 lines to paint the pic but meh I didn't believe his visual the way I believed in Mel's visual in The Message)

Time, time

Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off a church
And killed everyone inside

(If he just given her a better name, he coulda been a prophet predicting terror shit that now happens on the regular---but her nickname sounds like a rocker from a pg13 flick from the 80s)


You turn on the telly and every other story
Is tellin' you somebody died

(good recovery......)



Sister killed her baby 'cuz she couldn't afford to feed it

(hmmmm P's conservative horns are showing here (his stance on abortion, dismissive resolution for the sake a couplet that doesn't even get explored for even the sake of a rhyme scheme....)


And we're sending people to the moon

(we aren't exactly, but I guess this paints government spends more on the space program than its own people)

In September my cousin tried reefer for the very first time
Now he's doing horse, it's June


(Imma let this slide cause he taught me a code word I never knew before and Prince's genius for packing in a HELL of a visual with the right words and perfect delayed delivery are on full display even though I do NOT believe for a sec Weed is a gateway drug)




It's silly, no'
When a rocket ship explodes
And everybody still wants to fly
Some say a man ain't happy
Unless a man truly dies
Oh why
Time, time


(that's perfection he checks human nature, human curiosity, human stubbornness, and hypocrisy and vulnerability without being mellow dramatic. most people dont put that much thought and energy in their bridges, I'll say his bridge hold WAY more weight and cred than his first two verses)

Baby make a speech, Star Wars fly
Neighbors just shine it on
But if a night falls and a bomb falls
Will anybody see the dawn
Time, times


(another quickie verse I believe was just an excuse to humble brag to yall like "dog aint NOBODY this profound in a bridge EVER, lets go over the evidence again SHALL WE!?!?!?!?!)

It's silly, no'
When a rocket blows
And everybody still wants to fly
Some say a man ain't happy, truly
Until a man truly dies
Oh why, oh why, Sign O the Times

(HA he sang it different and it feels even MORE profound, "Man aint happy truly until man truly dies" I feel THAT is the most potent timeless unfortunate (for his life at least) definitive statement of this whole song.... prolly his whole career



Sign O the Times mess with your mind
Hurry before it's to late
Let's fall in love, get married, have a baby
We'll call him Nate... if it's a boy

(Prince wouldn't be Prince without Prince fuckin with cha'......side humblebrag note: last time I seen him perform this he said "have a baby, we'll call him Ahmir....If he funky"

greatest moment in my life man.

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

  

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5. "Thanks for this. You should share this on your other socials medias"
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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6. "Well, this is getting archived"
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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7. "Question"
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OKP Twitter account doesn't tweet, "Check out Questlove's thoughts on Sign of the Times" with a link to this?

Seems like an easy way to drive traffic. Unless 15 likes posting here so it won't end up on Front street.

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8. "thanks 4 sharing that..."
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brought a grin to my face...

  

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11. "What do you mean we aren’t sending people to the moon"
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We have sent people to the moon. Please tell me you aren’t a “faked moon landing” conspiracy theorist lol

Also I assumed P was referring to the Disciples from Chi (who surely had to have a foothold in Minneapolis no?). The “high on crack” part just seemed like hyperbole. Did Nas really shoot people through peepholes or use Macs to make people backflip? Come on y’all.

  

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12. "the last time we sent people to the moon was in 1972."
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in '87 we weren't 'sending people to the moon'.

  

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15. "RE: What do you mean we aren’t sending people to the moon"
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only that one that ran...it wasn't a regular thing, though.
> Did Nas really use Macs to make people
>backflip?

when I threw the rifle in the river,
it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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9. "Can someone explain wth this is about?"
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Gangs, guns, crack, and Prince? Is this part of a song?

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10. "um, yes?"
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only the title track to arguably Prince's best album, Sign O The Times.

  

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13. "Crack laced blunts well known phenomenon."
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The combination made my eyes bleed.

Sounds legit in other words

  

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14. "The Black Disciples in Chicago"
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