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RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Jay Electronica was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	1
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Stat Quo was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	2
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist The D.O.C. was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	3
ur kidding right	Kosa12	Apr 18th 2013	51
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Crucial Conflict was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	4
^^^ not truth	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	6
HAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	16
This song clearly made it's mark on your subconscious	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	25
Who am I sending negative energy to?	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	29
These guys may sell mobile phones & adderall these days	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	31
And I'm saying they had a lot of what KL had going for them	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	39
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Mad Skillz was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	5
^^^ Mad Skillz is the artist Shabaam Sahdeeq was supposed to be	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	13
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Young Black Teenagers was supposed to b...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	7
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Rakim was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	8
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Loot Pack was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	9
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Boogie Monsters was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	10
Lupe released 2 very good albums...leave him be	the_time_is_when_god...lounge	Apr 18th 2013	11
he's boring and a bit too nerdy...	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	18
aight, but F&L and The Cool are good ass albums though	the_time_is_when_god...lounge	Apr 18th 2013	28
being too "nerdy" is a really shitty criticism	Kosa12	Apr 18th 2013	55
a nigga from Chicago streets rhymin about Wigglytuff #fail	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	57
only #fail in the context of	Dr Claw	Apr 18th 2013	60
this is how I read this	Kosa12	Apr 18th 2013	72
Basically.	Ashley Ayers	Apr 19th 2013	80
and at least 2 classic mixtapes	Menphyel7	Apr 18th 2013	34
none of that nerd-rap will hold up like GKMC	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	38
they have already held up?	Menphyel7	Apr 18th 2013	43
yep	the_time_is_when_god...lounge	Apr 18th 2013	44
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Marky Mark was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	12
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Mysterme was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	14
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Tarrie B was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	15
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Erule was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	17
No, that's mid 90's Kweli before he started sounding all whiny & nasal	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	21
uhhh erule is closer to kendrick than lupe is	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	27
Sing About Me >>>>>>> any Lupe story let's be honest here	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	30
it's touching	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	35
musically, i thought we were discussing the MC's	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	40
Fine... Jonylah Forever >>>> Sing About Me	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	42
noone heard that song... inadmissible	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	47
Exposure? I thought we were talking about the MC's	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	65
its not very remarkable	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	74
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Busdriver was supposed to be...	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	19
behave.	Reuben	Apr 18th 2013	58
weirdos are incapable of normal discussion in The Lesson	atruhead	Apr 18th 2013	20
^^^ hasnt reached his potential as a poster...	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	23
he was calling me the weirdo	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	32
the point is valid but your swag is terrible #fuckouttahere	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	36
i care about swag like i care about atruehead	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	41
^^^ this is acceptable	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	46
HA!	fontgangsta	Apr 18th 2013	54
RE: HA!	imcvspl	Apr 18th 2013	64
you're a weirdo, you prove it time and time again	atruhead	Apr 18th 2013	68
^^^Never Lies	Bombastic	Apr 18th 2013	22
^^^ that's evidence	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	26
in the long run he will let us down too.	BrooklynWHAT	Apr 18th 2013	24
Eh, what's long run?	mrhood75	Apr 18th 2013	37
RE: Eh, what's long run?	Kosa12	Apr 18th 2013	52
shit yeah i do.	BrooklynWHAT	Apr 18th 2013	66
Rarely happens though	mrhood75	Apr 18th 2013	76
exactly	Kosa12	Apr 20th 2013	111
they all let us down at some point	Nick Has a Problem...Seriously	Apr 18th 2013	49
Kendrick could go away forever at this point, he's made a classic	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	50
RE: Kendrick could go away forever at this point, he's made a classic	Nick Has a Problem...Seriously	Apr 18th 2013	63
The advance copy of food & liquor was classic...that shit got botched	the_time_is_when_god...lounge	Apr 18th 2013	69
and what's the name of Kenny's classic?	Garhart Poppwell	Apr 21st 2013	131
When did De La let us down?	Adwhizz	Apr 22nd 2013	155
never. thats when	Kosa12	Apr 22nd 2013	162
some might say around the time of AOI	Dr Claw	Apr 22nd 2013	167
What about First Serve? I remember a lot of WTF posts on here	zuma1986	May 03rd 2013	212
Idlewild was pretty bad	Garhart Poppwell	Apr 23rd 2013	191
he had a chance for the backlash yet..wait til after album 3	Menphyel7	Apr 18th 2013	33
I dont care, GKMC is already better than any Lupe release ever.	Tiger Woods	Apr 18th 2013	45
^^^ this guy knows his stuff	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	48
it really is	Kosa12	Apr 18th 2013	53
not the original Food and Liquor	Menphyel7	Apr 18th 2013	67
Why not? It was a good/great album but not classic	zuma1986	May 03rd 2013	211
indeed.	BrooklynWHAT	Apr 18th 2013	71
truth hurts.	SP1200	Apr 20th 2013	115
Could you elaborate?	Kosa12	Apr 18th 2013	56
Lupe's talent as an MC is clear... one of the best pure MC's in some tim...	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	59
This is fair...and GKMC is an all time great album	the_time_is_when_god...lounge	Apr 18th 2013	62
Thanks; I can now roll with this comparison	Kosa12	Apr 18th 2013	73
i can see this.	sha mecca	Apr 18th 2013	77
^That's basically it	Ishwip	Apr 18th 2013	79
Kendrick doesn't talk bad about the president. That's pretty much it.	Orbit_Established	Apr 19th 2013	87
Can't we like Lupe as a guy and still not like the music?	Tiger Woods	Apr 19th 2013	91
Lupe, without effort, released the best song of 2013.	Orbit_Established	Apr 19th 2013	99
^literally the only person who thinks that^	Kosa12	Apr 21st 2013	132
Nope, I'll cosign, that is the best rap song of 2013	amplifya7	Apr 21st 2013	133
Thank you.	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	136
Fine. you aren't the only person	Kosa12	Apr 21st 2013	141
Typical Lessonhead dumbassery here	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	145
I love how you always resort to "anti lesson"	Kosa12	Apr 21st 2013	146
Look out, OE is about to call you a "hipster"	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	148
Nah, you just made a very stupid lesson-like post, that's all.	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	151
People talk about the bad	Kosa12	Apr 22nd 2013	160
See, this is ANOTHER Lesson-o-typical post	Orbit_Established	Apr 22nd 2013	165
in terms of ALBUMS/full PROJECTS	Kosa12	Apr 22nd 2013	170
You just described Wiz Khalifah, who the Lesson loves	Orbit_Established	Apr 22nd 2013	172
but i hate wiz khalifa man. like straight up hate	Kosa12	Apr 22nd 2013	175
Search the Wiz Khalifah threads. Search the Lupe threads.	Orbit_Established	Apr 23rd 2013	179
That Lupe song about Jonylah Watkins is great.	Quez	Apr 21st 2013	147
LOL. Kendrick also makes better records than Nas or Jay.	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	150
This is the apex of your trolling.	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	153
Hmm. That's the 2nd time you've commented on my dick.	Orbit_Established	Apr 22nd 2013	156
Sing about Orbit Established. He's dying of thirst...	mrshow	Apr 22nd 2013	158
^^^ lol bodied him	Quez	Apr 22nd 2013	166
Hmm. And KL still makes better records than Nas or Jay	Orbit_Established	Apr 22nd 2013	173
^^^ lol @ this nigga coppin pleas	Quez	Apr 22nd 2013	174
O so you not answering the question? Ok	Orbit_Established	Apr 23rd 2013	178
Nas & Jay do not fit the Good kid bad city mold at all	Quez	Apr 23rd 2013	181
Neither does Lupe, you not very smart dude	Orbit_Established	Apr 23rd 2013	186
RE: Neither does Lupe, you not very smart dude	Quez	Apr 23rd 2013	192
welcome back Quez	Dr Claw	Apr 18th 2013	61
the game needs me.	Quez	Apr 19th 2013	83
RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Lupe was supposed to be...	The DC Sniper	Apr 18th 2013	70
except with talent & his emotions in check	fire	Apr 18th 2013	75
basically	Quez	Apr 18th 2013	78
Basically not. To imply that Lupe has no talent is ridiculous.	Ashley Ayers	Apr 19th 2013	81
^^^^ sarcastically challenged	Quez	Apr 19th 2013	82
I'm pretty sure fire is serious.	Ashley Ayers	Apr 20th 2013	107
Kendrick is a less talented Lupe with fewer hipster enemies	Orbit_Established	Apr 19th 2013	84
^^^ wrong	Quez	Apr 19th 2013	85
Kendrick is very, very, very, talented. Very.	Orbit_Established	Apr 19th 2013	86
if u think u i give a shit what okayplayers/hipsters/fuckboys think...	Quez	Apr 19th 2013	89
Yeah, see, this is hipsterism at its worst:	Orbit_Established	Apr 19th 2013	100
lames generlly dont make compelling rap music IMO	Quez	Apr 19th 2013	105
Damn, I thought this shit was a 2 yr old post some troll upped	TheRealBillyOcean	Apr 19th 2013	88
This is wrong right here though...	the_time_is_when_god...lounge	Apr 19th 2013	94
Yeah, totally confused	BigReg	Apr 19th 2013	95
Nah, I listened & just shrugged. Kept it moving.	TheRealBillyOcean	Apr 19th 2013	102
RE: Nah, I listened & just shrugged. Kept it moving.	spidey	May 01st 2013	194
dawg u might wanna call in sick for this one since u clearly didnt study	Bombastic	Apr 19th 2013	96
Nah his shit is stale to me. There's way too many mc's out...	TheRealBillyOcean	Apr 19th 2013	103
Yeah, Kendrick is mostly a wordplay blabberer. He's good, though.	Orbit_Established	Apr 20th 2013	119
lol, describing Kendrick as a "wordplay blabberer" is just inaccurate	Ketchums	Apr 23rd 2013	190
What did you listen to?	Ketchums	Apr 22nd 2013	176
naw that #cornballnigga clearly hasnt heard the music more than once	Quez	Apr 23rd 2013	177
Corny is an old ass nigga judging rappers on how "cool" they are.	TheRealBillyOcean	Apr 23rd 2013	184
^^^ The Real Billy Ocean aka #fuckouttahere	Quez	Apr 23rd 2013	185
I've only listened to GKMC	TheRealBillyOcean	Apr 23rd 2013	183
There's a difference in what you said before vs. now.	Ketchums	Apr 23rd 2013	189
Lupe is like the Don Cheadle character in Boogie Nights	mrshow	Apr 19th 2013	90
Lupe's label is like the Don Cheadle character in Boogie Nights	the_time_is_when_god...lounge	Apr 19th 2013	92
You do realize that's Lupe singing, right?	mrshow	Apr 19th 2013	97
All Black Everything>>>>GKMC	GadBen414	Apr 19th 2013	93
Nope	mrshow	Apr 19th 2013	98
GKMC is better than any retail Lupe album, but	amplifya7	Apr 19th 2013	101
^Lock and Archive after this. Thank you.	Orbit_Established	Apr 19th 2013	104
You're not all the way wrong, but isn't that's the issue?	CMcMurtry	Apr 20th 2013	108
Yep and for me they have been "miss and miss"	Kosa12	Apr 20th 2013	112
Ok, but retail albums are like championships	Tiger Woods	Apr 20th 2013	123
Young Jeezy has better albums post 2001 than Jay-Z.	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	134
Lupe skated in here to say...	mrshow	Apr 20th 2013	106
Kendrick is where Lupe was after F&L dropped...	legsdiamond	Apr 20th 2013	109
Thing is Kendrick's commercial songs are better than Lupe's...	mrshow	Apr 20th 2013	113
So are Wiz Khalifah and Young Jeezy's	Orbit_Established	Apr 20th 2013	118
If you have to bring up Wiz to prove that Lupe is the best out now...	mrshow	Apr 20th 2013	121
You're shifting goalposts. The OG post was very specific.	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	124
You sound mad.	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	126
Apology accepted, just don't let it happen again.	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	127
Will your troll persona die after a girl finally kisses you?	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	129
If you get me a date with one, I promise to act more lessonhead-ish	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	137
I have no doubt the first thing you'd talk about...	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	138
Hmm. If you want to see my dick, you can just ask.	Orbit_Established	Apr 22nd 2013	157
Sorry I hit a nerve	mrshow	Apr 22nd 2013	159
Hmm. And another reference to my dick.	Orbit_Established	Apr 22nd 2013	164
Generally what?	mrshow	Apr 22nd 2013	169
Bro...	spidey	May 01st 2013	195
RE: Bro..Did you really call me mad and talk tough...	mrshow	May 01st 2013	196
You sound scared, quite frankly.	Orbit_Established	May 01st 2013	198
If you're piggybacking off a Spidey reply...	mrshow	May 01st 2013	199
no comparison	Ezzsential	Apr 20th 2013	110
yeah, Lupe will prolly wear a dress in his next vid	Quez	Apr 20th 2013	114
	Bombastic	Apr 20th 2013	120
Love it but two suggestions....	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	128
you have way too much time...	spidey	May 01st 2013	193
See reply 196	mrshow	May 01st 2013	197
Lupe is too much of a dork to even be in Kendrick's lane.	SP1200	Apr 20th 2013	116
Nas and Jay are bigger dorks than Lupe.	Orbit_Established	Apr 20th 2013	117
smh... you will say anything.	legsdiamond	Apr 20th 2013	122
So you're mad at me, but not the guy who called Lupe a "dork?"	Orbit_Established	Apr 21st 2013	125
why would I be mad at you for being wrong?	legsdiamond	Apr 23rd 2013	180
man listen-Kendrick is a good artist with one fucking album	Garhart Poppwell	Apr 21st 2013	130
Actually he has three	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	135
an album isn't a mixtape and vice versa	Garhart Poppwell	Apr 21st 2013	139
Kendrick has 2 albums	Kosa12	Apr 21st 2013	140
right	Garhart Poppwell	Apr 21st 2013	142
where do you get 2 from? I mean if you're going to strictly limit	Bombastic	Apr 21st 2013	143
I count OD as a mixtape	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	144
didn't u say he's got three tho?	Bombastic	Apr 21st 2013	152
Shit meant "two"	mrshow	Apr 21st 2013	154
OD=mixtape Section 80/GKMC=album	Kosa12	Apr 22nd 2013	161
Retail is usually the deciding factor for me too but...	mrshow	Apr 22nd 2013	163
I see where you are coming from	Kosa12	Apr 22nd 2013	171
mixtapes today aint even mixtapes	DolphinTeef	Apr 21st 2013	149
correct, they're often the 'intended' version of an album	Dr Claw	Apr 22nd 2013	168
yea but these days I say we count "mixtapes" as albums	DolphinTeef	Apr 23rd 2013	182
Calling an album a demo is a bit much.	Dr_Gonzo	Apr 23rd 2013	187
I don't care much for the KL vs Lupe debate	DolphinTeef	Apr 23rd 2013	188
right quick before i brush my teeth....i sort of agree.	k0la	May 01st 2013	200
I can get with this... but i dont see K. dot going the desperation route	Quez	May 03rd 2013	201
Yeah. Lupe is basically guilty of being right about drone warfare.	Orbit_Established	May 03rd 2013	202
I dont think people give a shit one way or another about that	Quez	May 03rd 2013	203
Wrong. People absolutely care about that.	Orbit_Established	May 03rd 2013	204
guess what Clifford...	Quez	May 03rd 2013	205
Lupe has the best song, lyrically, of 2013. By far.	Orbit_Established	May 03rd 2013	206
look Nardwuar	Quez	May 03rd 2013	207
Yeah, you mad.	Orbit_Established	May 03rd 2013	208
^^^ Bullshit Established	Quez	May 03rd 2013	209
Yeah, I win. Apology accepted fam.	Orbit_Established	May 03rd 2013	210
lol, why do you always leave things out?	Ketchums	May 03rd 2013	214
Anyone remember the post "Wale is the artist Lupe was suppose to be"?	Crash85	May 03rd 2013	213

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:42 PM

1. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Jay Electronica was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:43 PM

2. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Stat Quo was supposed to be..."
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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:43 PM

3. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist The D.O.C. was supposed to be..."
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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:26 PM

51. "ur kidding right"
In response to Reply # 3
Thu Apr-18-13 01:27 PM by Kosa12

edit: you clearly are. carry on lol

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imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:43 PM

4. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Crucial Conflict was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:44 PM

6. "^^^ not truth"
In response to Reply # 4

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:47 PM

16. "HAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY"
In response to Reply # 6

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BARN!!!
=
Swimming Pools

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:54 PM

25. "This song clearly made it's mark on your subconscious"
In response to Reply # 16

to send negative energy at these brothers is indicative of your jealousy.

You will never have your "Hay" my friend.
Learn to be ok with that

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:59 PM

29. "Who am I sending negative energy to?"
In response to Reply # 25

I think I'm complimenting everyone in here.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:01 PM

31. "These guys may sell mobile phones & adderall these days"
In response to Reply # 29

but they made a couple midwest classics

video was trash tho

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:04 PM

39. "And I'm saying they had a lot of what KL had going for them"
In response to Reply # 31

I personally think "Hay" is one of the most underrated big songs from the era.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:44 PM

5. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Mad Skillz was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:45 PM

13. "^^^ Mad Skillz is the artist Shabaam Sahdeeq was supposed to be"
In response to Reply # 5

oh well

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:44 PM

7. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Young Black Teenagers was supposed to b..."
In response to Reply # 0

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:44 PM

8. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Rakim was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:45 PM

9. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Loot Pack was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:45 PM

10. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Boogie Monsters was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Member since Nov 19th 2012
5495 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:45 PM

11. "Lupe released 2 very good albums...leave him be"
In response to Reply # 0

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Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:48 PM

18. "he's boring and a bit too nerdy..."
In response to Reply # 11

like if Nas never made it out of puberty & immersed himself in Anime

the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Member since Nov 19th 2012
5495 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:58 PM

28. "aight, but F&L and The Cool are good ass albums though"
In response to Reply # 18

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:33 PM

55. "being too "nerdy" is a really shitty criticism"
In response to Reply # 18
Thu Apr-18-13 01:33 PM by Kosa12

especially if its obviously not forced imo

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Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:35 PM

57. "a nigga from Chicago streets rhymin about Wigglytuff #fail"
In response to Reply # 55

Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
132214 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:48 PM

60. "only #fail in the context of"
In response to Reply # 57

"I listened to nothing but gangsta music in Chicago..." (paraphrased highlight of #FiascoGate)

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 02:45 PM

72. "this is how I read this"
In response to Reply # 57
Thu Apr-18-13 02:46 PM by Kosa12

"a nigga in chicago streets not fitting into the box I have for niggas from chigaco streets"

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Ashley Ayers
Member since Dec 12th 2009
12331 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 04:19 AM

80. "Basically."
In response to Reply # 72

>"a nigga in chicago streets not fitting into the box I have
>for niggas from chigaco streets"
>

Menphyel7
Charter member
36436 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:02 PM

34. "and at least 2 classic mixtapes "
In response to Reply # 11

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7

"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

Quez
Charter member
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:04 PM

38. "none of that nerd-rap will hold up like GKMC"
In response to Reply # 34

you agree completely

Menphyel7
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:12 PM

43. "they have already held up? "
In response to Reply # 38

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7

"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Member since Nov 19th 2012
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:12 PM

44. "yep"
In response to Reply # 34

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imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:45 PM

12. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Marky Mark was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
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Thu Apr-18-13 12:46 PM

14. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Mysterme was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
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42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:47 PM

15. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Tarrie B was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

imcvspl
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42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:48 PM

17. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Erule was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
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Thu Apr-18-13 12:51 PM

21. "No, that's mid 90's Kweli before he started sounding all whiny & nasal"
In response to Reply # 17

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:57 PM

27. "uhhh erule is closer to kendrick than lupe is"
In response to Reply # 21

when we're talking about starting positions.

i'll give you they both rock the story motif's though lupe's a better story teller which is probably where kendrick gets the edge in the overall, because it's not that he's a story teller, its that he's a spitter that told a story. lupe is a story teller that can spit. and when he's not telling a story it's easy to lose interest in him.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
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Thu Apr-18-13 12:59 PM

30. "Sing About Me >>>>>>> any Lupe story let's be honest here"
In response to Reply # 27

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:02 PM

35. "it's touching"
In response to Reply # 30

but musically it's like whatever to me.

you think kendrick can ride a whole album of just spitting to the same praise?

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:05 PM

40. "musically, i thought we were discussing the MC's"
In response to Reply # 35

i see you changed the base to gain an advantage
however this was ineffective, let's get back on topic here, Stuart

imcvspl
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:11 PM

42. "Fine... Jonylah Forever >>>> Sing About Me"
In response to Reply # 40

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
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19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:20 PM

47. "noone heard that song... inadmissible"
In response to Reply # 42

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:52 PM

65. "Exposure? I thought we were talking about the MC's"
In response to Reply # 47

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 03:09 PM

74. "its not very remarkable"
In response to Reply # 65

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:48 PM

19. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Busdriver was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Reuben
Member since Mar 13th 2006
1857 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:39 PM

58. "behave."
In response to Reply # 19

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atruhead
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Thu Apr-18-13 12:50 PM

20. "weirdos are incapable of normal discussion in The Lesson"
In response to Reply # 0

Quez
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Thu Apr-18-13 12:52 PM

23. "^^^ hasnt reached his potential as a poster..."
In response to Reply # 20

had a spark when u started

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:01 PM

32. "he was calling me the weirdo"
In response to Reply # 23

in his usual bitch assed way.

let's see if he can avoid taking another bitch assed jab and just chime in with something relevant.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
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19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:02 PM

36. "the point is valid but your swag is terrible #fuckouttahere"
In response to Reply # 32

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:07 PM

41. "i care about swag like i care about atruehead"
In response to Reply # 36

let me stop lying. atruhead is actually a good dude. he just needs to be able to accept when he's wrong and fall back.

swag on the other hand. pssshh care less.
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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Quez
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:18 PM

46. "^^^ this is acceptable"
In response to Reply # 41

fontgangsta
Member since Sep 04th 2005
5467 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:30 PM

54. "HA!"
In response to Reply # 32

>just chime in with something relevant.

http://tinyurl.com/b4zjwlz

oh like you did?

imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
42239 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:51 PM

64. "RE: HA!"
In response to Reply # 54

>>just chime in with something relevant.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/b4zjwlz
>
>oh like you did?

three maybe four of my replies are for shits and giggles. the rest i could easily debate within the context of the og post.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

atruhead
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85230 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 02:04 PM

68. "you're a weirdo, you prove it time and time again"
In response to Reply # 32

Bombastic
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Thu Apr-18-13 12:51 PM

22. "^^^Never Lies"
In response to Reply # 0

Quez
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19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:56 PM

26. "^^^ that's evidence"
In response to Reply # 22

BrooklynWHAT
Member since Jun 15th 2007
85076 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 12:53 PM

24. "in the long run he will let us down too."
In response to Reply # 0

<--- Big Baller World Order

mrhood75
Member since Dec 06th 2004
44719 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:03 PM

37. "Eh, what's long run?"
In response to Reply # 24

You got two or three good albums out of mainstream artist, that's pretty much a win. Everything after that is gravy.

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:29 PM

52. "RE: Eh, what's long run?"
In response to Reply # 37
Thu Apr-18-13 01:31 PM by Kosa12

I agree completely

as much as lupe has dissapointed me with the past 2 albums

nowindays do people really expect a "mainstream" rapper to have more than 2 quality albums

though this is not me saying that people shouldn't be dissapointed or w/e

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BrooklynWHAT
Member since Jun 15th 2007
85076 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:55 PM

66. "shit yeah i do."
In response to Reply # 52

>
>nowindays do people really expect a "mainstream" rapper to
>have more than 2 quality albums
>

<--- Big Baller World Order

mrhood75
Member since Dec 06th 2004
44719 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 06:11 PM

76. "Rarely happens though"
In response to Reply # 66

These days (like, say, post-2000) mainstream artists that accomplish more than three dope albums are exceptions rather than rules.

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Sat Apr-20-13 12:41 PM

111. "exactly"
In response to Reply # 76

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Member since Dec 25th 2010
16580 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:21 PM

49. "they all let us down at some point"
In response to Reply # 24
Thu Apr-18-13 01:22 PM by Nick Has a Problem..

De La, ATCQ, OutKast, EPMD, etc It's bound to happen.

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Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

Quez
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:23 PM

50. "Kendrick could go away forever at this point, he's made a classic"
In response to Reply # 49

Lupe has yet to do that

Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Member since Dec 25th 2010
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:50 PM

63. "RE: Kendrick could go away forever at this point, he's made a classic"
In response to Reply # 50

>
>Lupe has yet to do that

agreed

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the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Member since Nov 19th 2012
5495 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 02:09 PM

69. "The advance copy of food & liquor was classic...that shit got botched"
In response to Reply # 50

big time

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Garhart Poppwell
Member since Nov 28th 2008
18116 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 11:56 AM

131. "and what's the name of Kenny's classic?"
In response to Reply # 50

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Adwhizz
Member since Nov 12th 2003
40926 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 12:21 AM

155. "When did De La let us down?"
In response to Reply # 49

Outkast let us down by breaking up but not admitting it, but they haven't put anything wack out

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 03:08 AM

162. "never. thats when"
In response to Reply # 155

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Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
132214 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 11:54 AM

167. "some might say around the time of AOI"
In response to Reply # 155

some extremists might say "Buhloone" or "Stakes" (FOH)

but overall? they haven't made a whole project that made me say "WTF? This ain't no De La Soul", nor have they broken up... which to their credit, almost 25 years in the game, is kind of crazy.

zuma1986
Member since Dec 18th 2006
9085 posts

Fri May-03-13 03:53 PM

212. "What about First Serve? I remember a lot of WTF posts on here"
In response to Reply # 167

Garhart Poppwell
Member since Nov 28th 2008
18116 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 04:33 PM

191. "Idlewild was pretty bad"
In response to Reply # 155

Menphyel7
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:01 PM

33. "he had a chance for the backlash yet..wait til after album 3"
In response to Reply # 0

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7

"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

Tiger Woods
Member since Feb 15th 2004
18387 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:16 PM

45. "I dont care, GKMC is already better than any Lupe release ever."
In response to Reply # 33

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:21 PM

48. "^^^ this guy knows his stuff"
In response to Reply # 45

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:30 PM

53. "it really is"
In response to Reply # 45

after listening to it for a while I'm ready to say that it>F&L

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Menphyel7
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36436 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:57 PM

67. "not the original Food and Liquor"
In response to Reply # 45

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7

"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

zuma1986
Member since Dec 18th 2006
9085 posts

Fri May-03-13 03:51 PM

211. "Why not? It was a good/great album but not classic"
In response to Reply # 67

The beats were better than most of his other albums but still weren't that great.

BrooklynWHAT
Member since Jun 15th 2007
85076 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 02:40 PM

71. "indeed."
In response to Reply # 45

<--- Big Baller World Order

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SP1200
Charter member
20101 posts

Sat Apr-20-13 01:59 PM

115. "truth hurts."
In response to Reply # 45

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:35 PM

56. "Could you elaborate?"
In response to Reply # 0

please

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Quez
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19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:41 PM

59. "Lupe's talent as an MC is clear... one of the best pure MC's in some tim..."
In response to Reply # 56

He's the good kid from the hood
Grabbed a big cosign or two (Kanye, Jay-Z, etc)
He can really rap, even shit rappers like soulja boy / waka revered his "rapping" ability and had to disassociate themselves from that type of music.
He's a good songwriter
etc etc

the story is simular to kendrick... kendrick is nearly swaggless as well but makes more interesting/compelling music.

the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Member since Nov 19th 2012
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Thu Apr-18-13 01:48 PM

62. "This is fair...and GKMC is an all time great album "
In response to Reply # 59

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 02:52 PM

73. "Thanks; I can now roll with this comparison "
In response to Reply # 59

I agree with all of this

Though I think their music is very different; for various reasons(flows,beats), the content is similar

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sha mecca
Member since Oct 21st 2004
64667 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 08:42 PM

77. "i can see this."
In response to Reply # 59

whatever's going on up ^^^there^^^ tho is cracking me up

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Ishwip
Member since Jun 10th 2005
19953 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 11:58 PM

79. "^That's basically it"
In response to Reply # 59

>
>He's the good kid from the hood
>Grabbed a big cosign or two (Kanye, Jay-Z, etc)
>He can really rap, even shit rappers like soulja boy / waka
>revered his "rapping" ability and had to disassociate
>themselves from that type of music.
>He's a good songwriter
>etc etc
>
>
>the story is simular to kendrick... kendrick is nearly
>swaggless as well but makes more interesting/compelling
>music.

__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 04:02 PM

87. "Kendrick doesn't talk bad about the president. That's pretty much it. "
In response to Reply # 59

Lupe annoys us because he doesn't act like a typical
rapper.

He acts like a person who happens to rap.

If he doesn't like the president (for great reasons, btw),
he's going to say it.

Hipsters call that "pretentious."

Kendrick Lamar doesn't do that, and has gained from it.
He's fine just being a rapper.

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Tiger Woods
Member since Feb 15th 2004
18387 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 05:23 PM

91. "Can't we like Lupe as a guy and still not like the music?"
In response to Reply # 87

I agree with a lot of his beliefs but I also think he's made same very bad music in the last 5 years.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 06:28 PM

99. "Lupe, without effort, released the best song of 2013. "
In response to Reply # 91
Fri Apr-19-13 06:34 PM by Orbit_Established

>I agree with a lot of his beliefs but I also think he's made
>same very bad music in the last 5 years.

The joint about the baby...he prolly wrote that on a
napkin

He's released some absolutely breathtaking music in the
last 3 years, let alone 5.

You guys don't talk about it because y'all are hipsters who
are mad.

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 01:06 PM

132. "^literally the only person who thinks that^"
In response to Reply # 99

The song is dope but whenever lupe releases something you go hyperbole mode

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amplifya7
Member since Feb 07th 2010
2989 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 01:08 PM

133. "Nope, I'll cosign, that is the best rap song of 2013"
In response to Reply # 132

Not that I'm checking for new rap releases like that nowadays, but I seriously doubt I will hear anything that beats that song...damn near brought me to tears the first few times I listened

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 03:24 PM

136. "Thank you. "
In response to Reply # 133

>Not that I'm checking for new rap releases like that
>nowadays, but I seriously doubt I will hear anything that
>beats that song...damn near brought me to tears the first few
>times I listened

And its not just the message. Its the flow, the delivery,
the concept, everything.

Its just a great, great, great, display of lyrical ability.

There isn't anyone in rap that has that in them. Sorry, its
true.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 07:40 PM

141. "Fine. you aren't the only person"
In response to Reply # 136

I wish Lupe's past two products reflected the quality of that song though :/

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Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 10:54 PM

145. "Typical Lessonhead dumbassery here"
In response to Reply # 141

Instead of focusing on the brilliance of the song
he JUST came out with, you bitch about how his
OLDER material isn't as good as the song he JUST
came out with.

LOL @ the Lesson

That song is the best display of lyricism of 2013, by far,
and is far, far, far better lyrically than anything on
GDMC

Its true.

Lupe is a class above KL.

And KL is very, very, very, good.

He's a blabbermouth wordplay rapper, and a good one.

None of Lupe's gifts, though.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 11:04 PM

146. "I love how you always resort to "anti lesson""
In response to Reply # 145
Sun Apr-21-13 11:08 PM by Kosa12

posts whenever someone doesn't have an opinion that DOESN'T run with your agenda

You could literally say this in every post where someone says something similar

OMG THE PEOPLE IN THE PUSHA T POST ARE SAYING THAT HIS NEW SONG IS BETTER THAN HIS RECENT STUFF AND CRITICISING HIS RECENT STUFF

Well, thats called an opinion man, not everyone has the same one

As a fan, why can't I be dissapointed that Lupe's music doesn't sound as good as that song on a regular basis anymore? Is it really that hard to comprehend that there are people that haven't opened up their own Lupe church?

Really?

And there are songs on GKMC that I like better than this and songs from 2013 that I like better than this, which is another opinion I have that will inevitably force you to reply with another one of your predicable lines about the lesson, which although sometimes you make good points and good posts, other times it sounds like you are just mad because not everyone has the same opinion on Lupe's work in general as you

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mrshow
Charter member
12567 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 11:37 PM

148. "Look out, OE is about to call you a "hipster""
In response to Reply # 146

and he doesn't just call anyone a hipster...oh wait.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 11:51 PM

151. "Nah, you just made a very stupid lesson-like post, that's all. "
In response to Reply # 146

>As a fan, why can't I be dissapointed that Lupe's music
>doesn't sound as good as that song on a regular basis anymore?

This is called being a stupid lessonhead.

You could praise the song. You could break down what's brilliant
about it. You could dissect his good stuff.

For example: search the "Bitch Bad" thread.

Now search the "Jonylah Forever" thread.

Difference? Lessonheads whined, cried, nitpicked Bitch Bad
to absolute death (none of the criticisms ultimately make
any sense)

In the Jonylah song, Lessonheads simply said "Wow, this is good."

No discussion.

Why? Because Lessonheads have more fun talking BAD about Lupe
than they do praising him.

Its one of the most pathetic internet crusades I've ever seen
and the Lesson NEVER lets up on it.

Be FAIR.

The Jonlyah song is amazing. Instead of saying as much YOU
BITCHED ABOUT HOW THE REST OF HIS CATALOGUE isn't that great.

Its pathetic and you should be ashamed of yourself.

You're a young chap, and I sense good in you. I think you need
to stop hanging around these parts, because you are becoming a
standard Lesson dumbass, bereft of good opinions on anything.

I might have to take you under my wing, so that you learn to see
the light. This is why I Orbit, son.

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 02:59 AM

160. "People talk about the bad"
In response to Reply # 151
Mon Apr-22-13 03:07 AM by Kosa12

because the bad is more recent than the good and comes more often than the good in terms of lupe's last few years man

I give a fuck about nothing about Lupe except for his music, which I, for the most part, haven't liked recently

no one has an agenda against lupe

this isn't complicated, this is just you having problems dealing with the fact people on the internet have opinions

I do not think "Bitch Bad" is a good song. Most of the songs on that album....are not good songs imo. But yes the other song you mentioned BANGS and has since it came out

but to you that makes me a hipster right, because my opinion is unvalid unless it lines up with yours, you use words like this to label people you dont even KNOW. You probably truly believe that its impossible just to NOT like Lupe's recent catalog don't you....well whatever man, you can continue bumping lasers and his newest shit if you want, because thats your decision/opinion

If you are actually older than me(I'm 21) the way you post is ridiculosly immature. You actually lose it when you see people thinking different than you

I can't even take you seriously after that Tyler The Creator thread, where you called his album. Classic then it somehow "aged horribly" before the week had even ended

When it comes to allot of things you are insufferable, but when Lupe is in the picture, you really are the worst. Its not even like I'm hating on Lupe, I'm literally just stating my opinion lmao. I am defending dude in other parts of this post man

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Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 06:24 AM

165. "See, this is ANOTHER Lesson-o-typical post"
In response to Reply # 160

I mean, look at what you just wrote:

>because the bad is more recent than the good and comes more
>often than the good in terms of lupe's last few years man

^^^^Whaaat? Like....huh?

You actually aren't thinking. At all. Zero.

You're just mad. Off cuff. Off top.

Its sad.

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 12:22 PM

170. "in terms of ALBUMS/full PROJECTS"
In response to Reply # 165
Mon Apr-22-13 01:00 PM by Kosa12

that was a bad typo; I meant to say the GOOD has NOT come more often than the BAD recently for Lupe

which is why I paralleled this with the pusha t post

many people think his last mixtape sucked and his last two albums were not good. You don't and thats cool. I respect that

its true, even outside the lesson

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Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 01:06 PM

172. "You just described Wiz Khalifah, who the Lesson loves"
In response to Reply # 170

>many people think his last mixtape sucked and his last two
>albums were not good.

Interesting how that works.

And Lupe is about 40000000000000 X the rapper that Khalifah is,
in every conceivable category

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
4988 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 04:07 PM

175. "but i hate wiz khalifa man. like straight up hate"
In response to Reply # 172
Mon Apr-22-13 04:49 PM by Kosa12

you are doing the "try to fit people into a box" shit again lol

wiz isn't half of half of half of half the rapper lupe is

also where is all this khalifa praise....link me please lmao

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Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 10:04 AM

179. "Search the Wiz Khalifah threads. Search the Lupe threads. "
In response to Reply # 175

Simple experiment-

Which ones get more vitriol?

Which is CLEARLY the better rapper/artist?

Hint: answer is the same

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Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 11:29 PM

147. "That Lupe song about Jonylah Watkins is great."
In response to Reply # 136

But to argue that it's eons better than Kendrick's "Real" or the song "m.A.A.d city" (especially last verse) is crazy.

They are both rare MC's from a talent/potential perspective but one makes better records, thats the point of the thread.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 11:45 PM

150. "LOL. Kendrick also makes better records than Nas or Jay. "
In response to Reply # 147

Is Kendrick the artist that either of them are trying
to be?

Oh, ok.

Because Kendrick vs. Lupe is false equivalency, a bad
comparison, whatever mumbo jumbo you want to use.

They are two different rappers in two different niches
with two different styles.

That Lupe just released a song that melts anything Kendrick
has ever done lyrically kind of proves the point -- Kendrick
is not making any crazy creative, uber-insightful double
entrendre-ridden songs about black on black violence that
utilize voice, metaphor, and pacing the way Lupe is able to. Not
in Kendrick's skillet. Not in any rapper's skillset, really.

And Lupe is not going to ever release no "Bitch don't kill
my vibe" kind of songs. Not in his lane. He might make his
version of "commercial" music, but its not in the same lane
as Kendrick's.

This is a Lupe hate thread, and that's it. Its nothing
else. Glad I was hear to expose it as such.

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mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 11:55 PM

153. "This is the apex of your trolling."
In response to Reply # 150

If you were as confident with talking to women as you are talking out your ass to a bunch of dudes on a message board, you'd probably have several less thousand posts.

>Kendrick
>is not making any crazy creative, uber-insightful double
>entrendre-ridden songs about black on black violence that
>utilize voice, metaphor, and pacing the way Lupe is able to.
>Not
>in Kendrick's skillet. Not in any rapper's skillset, really.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 12:37 AM

156. "Hmm. That's the 2nd time you've commented on my dick. "
In response to Reply # 153
Mon Apr-22-13 12:38 AM by Orbit_Established

Not sure what my dick has to do with this.

I mean, I think its awesome, as do many vaginas in the
galaxy, but that has nothing to do with you being a bad
poster.

>If you were as confident with talking to women as you are
>talking out your ass to a bunch of dudes on a message board,
>you'd probably have several less thousand posts.

Nah, getting pussy is almost as easy as making
you mad.

Almost.

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mrshow
Charter member
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Mon Apr-22-13 12:59 AM

158. "Sing about Orbit Established. He's dying of thirst..."
In response to Reply # 156

for a girl who doesn't pretend to start texting the minute he starts talking to her.

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 08:43 AM

166. "^^^ lol bodied him"
In response to Reply # 158
Mon Apr-22-13 08:45 AM by Quez

yes, i too believe that Orbit is potentially "Dying of Thirst"

Tired of running, tired of hunting
My own kind, but retiring nothing
Tires are steady screeching, the driver is rubbing
Hands on the wheel, who said we wasn't
Dying of thirst, dying of thirst, dying of thirst

Dope on the corner, look at the coroner
Daughter is dead, mother is mourning her
Strayed bullets, AK bullets
Resuscitation was waiting patiently but they couldn't
Bring her back, who got the footage?
Channel 9, cameras is looking
It's hard to channel your energy when you know you're crooked
Banana clip, split his banana pudding
I'm like Tre, that's Cuba Gooding
I know I'm good at
Dying of thirst, dying of thirst, dying of thirst

How many sins? I'm running out
How many sins? I lost count
Dreams of ballin' like Spalding
But only shotty bounce
The reaper calling, I'm cottonmouth
Money is power, yours is ours
Lay with a snitch, die with a coward
Hope we get rich, hope we can tower
Over the city with vanity with the music louder
The same song
A black flower
I'll show you how to
Dye your thirst
Dye your thirst
Dye your thirst

What are we doing? Who are we fooling?
Hell is hot, fire is proven
To burn for eternity, return of the student
That never learned how to live righteous but how to shoot it
Tired of running, choirs is humming
Tell us to visit, we lying about coming
Now back to business, loading the guns in
Back of the Buick, your hood is feuding,
And the beef is bubbling
It's no discussion, hereditary
All of my cousins
Dying of thirst
Dying of thirst
Dying of thirst

Too many sins
I'm running out
Somebody send
Me a well for the drought
See, all I know, is taking notes
On taking this life for granted
Granted, if he provoke
My best days, I stress days (Lord forgive me for all my sins for I not know...)
My best days, I stress days
Say "Fuck the world," my sex slave
Money, pussy and greed; what's my next crave
Whatever it is, know it's my next grave
Tired of running, tired of running
Tired of tumbling, tired of running
Tired of tumbling
Back once my momma say
"See a pastor, give me a promise
What if today was the rapture, and you completely tarnished
The truth will set you free, so to me be completely honest
You dying of thirst
You dying of thirst
So hop in that water, and pray that it works"

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 01:09 PM

173. "Hmm. And KL still makes better records than Nas or Jay"
In response to Reply # 166

Is Kendrick the artist that Nas or Jay should have been?

Hmmmm.

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Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 04:02 PM

174. "^^^ lol @ this nigga coppin pleas"
In response to Reply # 173

>Is Kendrick the artist that Nas or Jay should have been?

What does Nas & Jay have to do with good-hearted nerdy kids from the hood making great music? See below, Wendy

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2797347&mesg_id=2797347&page=#2797422

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 10:03 AM

178. "O so you not answering the question? Ok"
In response to Reply # 174

Lupe has about as much to do with Kenrick as Nas or
Jay do

They are in different lanes

Horrible post

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Quez
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19684 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 11:46 AM

181. "Nas & Jay do not fit the Good kid bad city mold at all"
In response to Reply # 178

Nas is closer but i dont see Lupe or KL assuming Mafioso personas

Lupe Escobar? not gonna happen

Jay and Nas have both made a ton of songs i could never see Lupe or Kendrick making.

Lupe on the other hand has tried to go completely alternative knowing he cant go the coke rapper route. I hope it works for him. Maybe he'll be able to pull a black eyed peas one day but that would be a waste of his talent.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 01:15 PM

186. "Neither does Lupe, you not very smart dude"
In response to Reply # 181

>Nas is closer but i dont see Lupe or KL assuming Mafioso
>personas
>
>Lupe Escobar? not gonna happen

>Jay and Nas have both made a ton of songs i could never see
>Lupe or Kendrick making.

And Kendrick makes songs I could never see Lupe making

And Lupe makes songs I could never see Kendrick making

>Lupe on the other hand has tried to go completely alternative
>knowing he cant go the coke rapper route.

That's because Lupe doesn't want to be a coke rapper.

Lupe could, if he wanted, write a song tonight better than
any Pusher T cocaine verse ever. And I'm a Pusha T advocate.

Lupe is that good.

I hope it works for
>him.

Lasers sold like hotcakes.

Maybe he'll be able to pull a black eyed peas one day
>but that would be a waste of his talent.

He just released the best song of 2013 lyrically. Y'all
just too busy being mad to admit it.

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Quez
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19684 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 07:36 PM

192. "RE: Neither does Lupe, you not very smart dude"
In response to Reply # 186

>>Nas is closer but i dont see Lupe or KL assuming Mafioso
>>personas
>>
>>Lupe Escobar? not gonna happen
>
>>Jay and Nas have both made a ton of songs i could never see
>>Lupe or Kendrick making.
>
>And Kendrick makes songs I could never see Lupe making
>
>And Lupe makes songs I could never see Kendrick making
>
>>Lupe on the other hand has tried to go completely
>alternative
>>knowing he cant go the coke rapper route.
>
>That's because Lupe doesn't want to be a coke rapper.
>
>Lupe could, if he wanted, write a song tonight better than
>any Pusher T cocaine verse ever. And I'm a Pusha T advocate.
>
>Lupe is that good.
>
>I hope it works for
>>him.
>
>Lasers sold like hotcakes.
>
>Maybe he'll be able to pull a black eyed peas one day
>>but that would be a waste of his talent.
>
>He just released the best song of 2013 lyrically. Y'all
>just too busy being mad to admit it.
>
>

Dawg, everything you just typed up is bullshit

Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
132214 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 01:48 PM

61. "welcome back Quez"
In response to Reply # 0

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 03:45 PM

83. "the game needs me."
In response to Reply # 61

The DC Sniper
Member since Apr 13th 2010
2109 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 02:20 PM

70. "RE: Kendrick Lamar is the artist Lupe was supposed to be..."
In response to Reply # 0

Lamar doesn't make shitty history lesson rap for dorks who believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories

"Capitalism will never fail because socialism will always be there to bail it out." - Ralph Nader

fire
Charter member
111370 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 06:06 PM

75. "except with talent & his emotions in check"
In response to Reply # 0

________________________________________
who gonna check me boo?!

www.twitter.com/firefire100
http://instagram.com/firefire100
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Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Thu Apr-18-13 09:25 PM

78. "basically"
In response to Reply # 75

Ashley Ayers
Member since Dec 12th 2009
12331 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 04:34 AM

81. "Basically not. To imply that Lupe has no talent is ridiculous."
In response to Reply # 78

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 06:21 AM

82. "^^^^ sarcastically challenged"
In response to Reply # 81

Ashley Ayers
Member since Dec 12th 2009
12331 posts

Sat Apr-20-13 12:28 AM

107. "I'm pretty sure fire is serious."
In response to Reply # 82
Sat Apr-20-13 12:31 AM by Ashley Ayers

And if "basically" is your idea of sarcasm, you're just not good at it. Don't blame me.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 03:50 PM

84. "Kendrick is a less talented Lupe with fewer hipster enemies"
In response to Reply # 0
Fri Apr-19-13 03:52 PM by Orbit_Established

No knock on Kendrick's talent

Kendrick is quite good, very good

Lupe is all-time great caliber good, though

Main difference is that Lupe has accumulated more
hipster enemies than anyone in rap

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niu9KMEGsx4

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 03:54 PM

85. "^^^ wrong"
In response to Reply # 84

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 04:00 PM

86. "Kendrick is very, very, very, talented. Very. "
In response to Reply # 85

>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niu9KMEGsx4

Being not as good as Lupe does not a bad rapper make.

Kendrick is a great blabby mouth wordplay spitter. He's
got great sensibilities and attitude, makes friends with
the right people and all that. A cipher rapper.

Lupe is capable of spitting things that are just a tier
above anything anyone else is spitting, that one-in-a-generation
talent. I don't expect the Lesson to admit it, because Lupe's
enemy demographic are lessonhead types.

Kendrick is a good rapper who occasionally campaigns as a
cool person.

Lupe is a real person who happens to be better at rhyming
than anyone on earth. Its just something he does. This is
why he's mentioning drones back in 2008 and everyone is
like "who does he think he is?" 5 years later, everyone is
talking about drones. He's just ahead of his time in that
way, and it annoys hipsters, because hipsters tend to like
when rappers know their place.

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Quez
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19684 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 04:09 PM

89. "if u think u i give a shit what okayplayers/hipsters/fuckboys think..."
In response to Reply # 86
Fri Apr-19-13 04:14 PM by Quez

u got the wrong guy.

i have said these guys are pretty much even in terms of ability & potential. However, Kendrick makes more interesting music, period. He just dropped an album Lupe would loved to have made; i'm sure Lupe would admit this himself.

I dont dislike Lupe, that SLR response to souljah-boy was one of the dopest straight-spitting tracks i heard in a min. But u still feel like your listening to a cornball, although Lupe prolly is a cool fella. Not all cool niggas sound cool on records... that's life.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 06:35 PM

100. "Yeah, see, this is hipsterism at its worst: "
In response to Reply # 89

> But
>u still feel like your listening to a cornball, although Lupe
>prolly is a cool fella. Not all cool niggas sound cool on
>records... that's life.

"Cornball."

This is what I mean. You're a goofy hipster.

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Quez
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19684 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 08:52 PM

105. "lames generlly dont make compelling rap music IMO"
In response to Reply # 100

U can rippity rap about ur 3rd eye and spin stories around cliche consciuos topics till ur blue in the face. That shit will still come off lame if u dont sound live (in that setting).

Lupe... can be dope but ehhhhhh

TheRealBillyOcean
Charter member
38224 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 04:06 PM

88. "Damn, I thought this shit was a 2 yr old post some troll upped"
In response to Reply # 0

I've listen to Kendrick's album once. He's just not as interesting as Lupe.

Not even as talented an M.C. as Lupe.

Kendrick raps well though, just doesn't have much to say.

Kendrick might be what y'all niggaz wanted Wale to be though.

the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Member since Nov 19th 2012
5495 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 05:24 PM

94. "This is wrong right here though..."
In response to Reply # 88

>Kendrick raps well though, just doesn't have much to say.

>

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BigReg
Charter member
62390 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 05:28 PM

95. "Yeah, totally confused"
In response to Reply # 94

>>Kendrick raps well though, just doesn't have much to say.

TheRealBillyOcean
Charter member
38224 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 08:06 PM

102. "Nah, I listened & just shrugged. Kept it moving."
In response to Reply # 94

And nothing has brought me back to revisit that joint.

spidey
Charter member
13126 posts

Wed May-01-13 01:25 AM

194. "RE: Nah, I listened & just shrugged. Kept it moving."
In response to Reply # 102

Exactly...yet duke is the new standard cause he got the dre cosign....very average MC...nothing special AT ALL....that's that new logic...I'll wait on the personal attacks...lol...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

Bombastic
Charter member
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Fri Apr-19-13 05:59 PM

96. "dawg u might wanna call in sick for this one since u clearly didnt study"
In response to Reply # 88

>I've listen to Kendrick's album once. He's just not as
>interesting as Lupe.
>
>Not even as talented an M.C. as Lupe.
>
>Kendrick raps well though, just doesn't have much to say.
>
>Kendrick might be what y'all niggaz wanted Wale to be though.
>

TheRealBillyOcean
Charter member
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Fri Apr-19-13 08:09 PM

103. "Nah his shit is stale to me. There's way too many mc's out..."
In response to Reply # 96

right now old and new that I feel to the utmost that get priority.

Point out some joints and I'll try again.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Sat Apr-20-13 03:03 PM

119. "Yeah, Kendrick is mostly a wordplay blabberer. He's good, though. "
In response to Reply # 103
Sat Apr-20-13 03:20 PM by Orbit_Established

He's just not in the same plane as Lupe is as a
lyricist.

Very good fun artist, though.

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Ketchums
Member since Jan 30th 2005
3417 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 04:20 PM

190. "lol, describing Kendrick as a "wordplay blabberer" is just inaccurate"
In response to Reply # 119

You think Lupe is more substantive, fine. I'd actually agree with you. But saying Kendrick is a wordplay blabberer just isn't true when the entire buzz about GKMC is how conceptually thorough it is. Just doesn't make any sense.

Ketchums
Member since Jan 30th 2005
3417 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 07:07 PM

176. "What did you listen to?"
In response to Reply # 88

I'm asking because whether you like his music or not, Kendrick Lamar is one of the more substantive rappers out there right now, especially in the major label aspect. "Swimming Pools," "Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst," "good kid," "Real" - and those are just the songs from GKMC that are more overtly substantial, not the ones that *need* context of the album to boost that substance.

You don't feel it or enjoy it, I get that. But saying that he isn't saying anything? That doesn't make sense.

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 10:00 AM

177. "naw that #cornballnigga clearly hasnt heard the music more than once"
In response to Reply # 176

TheRealBillyOcean
Charter member
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Tue Apr-23-13 12:40 PM

184. "Corny is an old ass nigga judging rappers on how "cool" they are."
In response to Reply # 177

You too grown to be cutting up XXL and Source magazines to throw posters on your wall fam.

How'd you come to the conclusion that I've only listened once to GKMC? The fact I said it? That clue you in?

Quez
Charter member
19684 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 12:46 PM

185. "^^^ The Real Billy Ocean aka #fuckouttahere"
In response to Reply # 184

TheRealBillyOcean
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Tue Apr-23-13 12:36 PM

183. "I've only listened to GKMC"
In response to Reply # 176

I get that he's saying more than your regular mc on a major, it still just doesn't land with me.

I also saw him live at the Brooklyn Hip Hop festival a few years ago. Wasn't feeling that either.

I might give that joint another spin though. I got his earlier shit too, just never listened to it after not feeling GKMC.

Ketchums
Member since Jan 30th 2005
3417 posts

Tue Apr-23-13 04:11 PM

189. "There's a difference in what you said before vs. now."
In response to Reply # 183

>I get that he's saying more than your regular mc on a major,
>it still just doesn't land with me.
>
>I also saw him live at the Brooklyn Hip Hop festival a few
>years ago. Wasn't feeling that either.
>
>I might give that joint another spin though. I got his earlier
>shit too, just never listened to it after not feeling GKMC.

What you said above is that you weren't feeling it. "I don't like this" is different from "He doesn't have much to say."

I don't like Lupe's newer material, but arguing "Lupe doesn't have much to say" wouldn't be accurate, nahmean?

mrshow
Charter member
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Fri Apr-19-13 04:15 PM

90. "Lupe is like the Don Cheadle character in Boogie Nights"
In response to Reply # 0

Trying on a dick load of different wigs and personas in an attempt to connect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FgPKyLQRUM

the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Member since Nov 19th 2012
5495 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 05:23 PM

92. "Lupe's label is like the Don Cheadle character in Boogie Nights"
In response to Reply # 90

fixed it for you

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mrshow
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Fri Apr-19-13 06:05 PM

97. "You do realize that's Lupe singing, right?"
In response to Reply # 92

GadBen414
Member since Aug 14th 2007
1535 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 05:24 PM

93. "All Black Everything>>>>GKMC"
In response to Reply # 90

Big swing swing with bangers and thing thingers Soul glo zinging all over the ring finger

Spence..M.Garcia..Thurman..Lomachenko

mrshow
Charter member
12567 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 06:14 PM

98. "Nope"
In response to Reply # 93

amplifya7
Member since Feb 07th 2010
2989 posts

Fri Apr-19-13 07:57 PM

101. "GKMC is better than any retail Lupe album, but"
In response to Reply # 0

I'll take the 5, 10, or 20 best Lupe songs over the 5, 10, 20 best Kendrick songs

And agree with Orbit, "Jonylah Forever" is much more powerful, and just better song to me than "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe" or whatever anyone considers the best song on GKMC to be.

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Fri Apr-19-13 08:23 PM

104. "^Lock and Archive after this. Thank you. "
In response to Reply # 101

>I'll take the 5, 10, or 20 best Lupe songs over the 5, 10, 20
>best Kendrick songs
>
>And agree with Orbit, "Jonylah Forever" is much more powerful,
>and just better song to me than "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe" or
>whatever anyone considers the best song on GKMC to be.

That's a great way to summarize it.

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CMcMurtry
Member since Nov 28th 2002
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Sat Apr-20-13 12:48 AM

108. "You're not all the way wrong, but isn't that's the issue?"
In response to Reply # 101

Or rather, isn't that what's wrong with Lupe Fiasco in 2013? There is no doubt the talent is still there, Lupe has shown himself to be as sharp as ever when called upon if we're talking the best of the best on the lyrical tip.

However, his projects these last few years, and really since The Cool, have been hit and miss. Kendrick has three strong projects in a row!

Lupe's highs are higher than Kendrick's perhaps, and are among the best in rap music, however, on a album/project basis, Kendrick undeniably has the crown. Since the dawn of the new decade, who else is there?

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Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
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Sat Apr-20-13 12:44 PM

112. "Yep and for me they have been "miss and miss""
In response to Reply # 108

>However, his projects these last few years, and really since
>The Cool, have been hit and miss. Kendrick has three strong
>projects in a row!

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Tiger Woods
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Sat Apr-20-13 10:08 PM

123. "Ok, but retail albums are like championships"
In response to Reply # 101

Mix tapes and Internet singles are like regular season games or scoring titles. They're fun in the moment, but they're not what ultimately defines an artist's (slash baller's) legacy.

You're indirectly watering down the importance of full albums in an effort to defend Lupe's shoddy full length LP output.

Illmatic > Dedication 2
Blackstar > Good Mob Soul Food 4

I could do that forever and you could too.

The point is that the albums matter more than anything else and Kendrick's one album is better than any of Lupe's four.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Sun Apr-21-13 03:08 PM

134. "Young Jeezy has better albums post 2001 than Jay-Z. "
In response to Reply # 123

I dare you to say he's a better, more important, or
more relevant artist.

Jeezy's had a good career. Very good career. Fine artist.

But Jay is Jay.

mrshow
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Sat Apr-20-13 12:26 AM

106. "Lupe skated in here to say..."
In response to Reply # 0

"I don't even like my own albums."

legsdiamond
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Sat Apr-20-13 10:08 AM

109. "Kendrick is where Lupe was after F&L dropped..."
In response to Reply # 106

We have yet to see if the bean counters force Kendrick to make "hits" for the radio.There was a time when we thought Lupe wouldnt let the suits force him to change his formula...

mrshow
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Sat Apr-20-13 01:02 PM

113. "Thing is Kendrick's commercial songs are better than Lupe's..."
In response to Reply # 109

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Sat Apr-20-13 03:01 PM

118. "So are Wiz Khalifah and Young Jeezy's"
In response to Reply # 113

You can multiply both their ability by about 400,000,
and you'd get 1/10th of Lupe

Y'all shifting the goalposts now because the original
post was stupid.

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mrshow
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Sat Apr-20-13 07:26 PM

121. "If you have to bring up Wiz to prove that Lupe is the best out now..."
In response to Reply # 118
Sat Apr-20-13 07:29 PM by mrshow

you're clearly not presenting a particularly strong case.

It's like you're saying Argo is the best movie of the year because it was better than Battleship.

Try harder.

>
>You can multiply both their ability by about 400,000,
>and you'd get 1/10th of Lupe
>
>
>Y'all shifting the goalposts now because the original
>post was stupid.
>
>
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Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Sun Apr-21-13 12:19 AM

124. "You're shifting goalposts. The OG post was very specific. "
In response to Reply # 121

It said "Kendrick is the artist that Lupe was supposed to be."

That is horrifyingly wrong.

Instead of just admitting that, you tried to shift the
goalposts to "who has the better commercial singles."

That has nothing to do with the conversation, and is only
brought up because you're too much of a pussy to admit that
the OG post point (and most tangential points for that matter)
are dumb and wrong.

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mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 02:24 AM

126. "You sound mad. "
In response to Reply # 124

I think a better way of phrasing the post would have been "Kendrick succeeds at making the type of albums that Lupe tries and fails to make." That he's a better pop star than Lupe is immaterial ultimately.

Also, you really need to develop a thicker skin if you're going to keep posting here. Fully commit this troll character and don't pout whenever somebody on the Lesson yanks your skirt up and exposes your clitoris.

>
>It said "Kendrick is the artist that Lupe was supposed to
>be."
>
>That is horrifyingly wrong.
>
>Instead of just admitting that, you tried to shift the
>goalposts to "who has the better commercial singles."
>
>That has nothing to do with the conversation, and is only
>brought up because you're too much of a pussy to admit that
>the OG post point (and most tangential points for that
>matter)
>are dumb and wrong.
>
>
>
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>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Sun Apr-21-13 10:38 AM

127. "Apology accepted, just don't let it happen again. "
In response to Reply # 126

I'll let you off the hook easy this time.

But moving goalposts and making shit up will not
be tolerated during my regime.

Got it?

Good.

Carry on.

mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 11:43 AM

129. "Will your troll persona die after a girl finally kisses you?"
In response to Reply # 127

Honest question.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Sun Apr-21-13 03:25 PM

137. "If you get me a date with one, I promise to act more lessonhead-ish"
In response to Reply # 129

Please?

C'mon

I'll even start saying A$AP Rocky >>> Big Daddy Kane

Please?

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mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 03:34 PM

138. "I have no doubt the first thing you'd talk about..."
In response to Reply # 137

on a date is A$AP Rocky.

You should definitely get out there though. All you need to change your luck around is some sunlight, a copy of Our Bodies Ourselves and a girl with severe learning disabilities.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Mon Apr-22-13 12:41 AM

157. "Hmm. If you want to see my dick, you can just ask. "
In response to Reply # 138

I'll say no and report you to the mods, but its
better than these down low homosexual references to
my sex life that have nothing to do with Lupe or Kendrick
Lamar.

I'd offer you a hug, but now I have to pass on that.

: - (

Poor guy

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mrshow
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Mon Apr-22-13 01:02 AM

159. "Sorry I hit a nerve"
In response to Reply # 157

Im sure women are incredibly interested in the story about the time you posted about Lena Dunham.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Mon Apr-22-13 06:22 AM

164. "Hmm. And another reference to my dick. "
In response to Reply # 159

Take that to generally, dunny

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mrshow
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Mon Apr-22-13 12:01 PM

169. "Generally what?"
In response to Reply # 164

spidey
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Wed May-01-13 01:41 AM

195. "Bro..."
In response to Reply # 169

...just slow down, why you so mad? You are the classic cat online talking shit type, that I GUARANTEE is a Mr. Softy live..all this trash talk, KNOWING that in REAL LIFE your 120 pound punk ass would not be talking like this...go away. It's not cool for you to be into Hip Hop anymore anyway, EDM is calling you....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

mrshow
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Wed May-01-13 03:28 AM

196. "RE: Bro..Did you really call me mad and talk tough..."
In response to Reply # 195
Wed May-01-13 03:31 AM by mrshow

in a reply to an exchange that didn't involve you 9 DAYS AFTER THE FACT? I post a good amount. Why are you searching my screenname looking for a thread to pick a fight with me? There's a thread on the first page where I defend Riff Raff for God's sake.

Nobody makes you look stupid around here but yourself.

Go lay down and think about that for a while.

Congrats on learning what EDM is though.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Wed May-01-13 04:29 AM

198. "You sound scared, quite frankly. "
In response to Reply # 196

>in a reply to an exchange that didn't involve you 9 DAYS
>AFTER THE FACT? I post a good amount. Why are you searching
>my screenname looking for a thread to pick a fight with me?
>There's a thread on the first page where I defend Riff Raff
>for God's sake.
>
>Nobody makes you look stupid around here but yourself.
>
>Go lay down and think about that for a while.
>
>Congrats on learning what EDM is though.

Just being honest

You sound scurred up in here

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mrshow
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Wed May-01-13 05:01 AM

199. "If you're piggybacking off a Spidey reply..."
In response to Reply # 198
Wed May-01-13 05:05 AM by mrshow

you've reached a whole new level of desperation. Why don't you start trolling in the Chance The Rapper post? I'll even help you get it started. Say something like:

Hipsters! Why do hipsters love Chance The Rapper but hate Joey BadA$$? Hipsters!!!!!

Ezzsential
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Sat Apr-20-13 12:22 PM

110. "no comparison"
In response to Reply # 0

lol lupe is on sum otha shyt

CHECK OUT AND DOWNLOAD MY FREE BEATS @ WWW.SOUNDCLICK.COM/SYLANA
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Quez
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Sat Apr-20-13 01:18 PM

114. "yeah, Lupe will prolly wear a dress in his next vid"
In response to Reply # 110

Bombastic
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Sat Apr-20-13 06:44 PM

120. ""
In response to Reply # 114
Sat Apr-20-13 06:59 PM by Bombastic

The latest concept album introducing the new alter-ego combining one lame's love for skateboarding, next-level lyricism & 90's Bay Area gangsta rap with the charisma of the Legendary Mexican Spitfire from Hollywood's first Golden Age.

Guaranteed to be the hottest, most revolutionary shit on the block since 'C: True Hollywood Stories'.

mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 11:30 AM

128. "Love it but two suggestions...."
In response to Reply # 120

1. Add a talking cheeseburger voiced by Paul Giamatti.

2. Get Kendrick Lamar to pick the beats.

spidey
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Wed May-01-13 01:18 AM

193. "you have way too much time..."
In response to Reply # 128

...lol...get a life son. Your funny, creative, even with that thug life tat on your neck, you should be able to find SOME type of work...white cover up makeup could help...what do you do for papers by the way?

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

mrshow
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Wed May-01-13 04:21 AM

197. "See reply 196"
In response to Reply # 193

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

SP1200
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Sat Apr-20-13 02:04 PM

116. "Lupe is too much of a dork to even be in Kendrick's lane."
In response to Reply # 0

Nothing wrong with that, plenty of dorks from the hood. I'm just saying.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Sat Apr-20-13 02:57 PM

117. "Nas and Jay are bigger dorks than Lupe. "
In response to Reply # 116

Lupe just doesn't pose as a drug dealer the way
the rest of them due.

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legsdiamond
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Sat Apr-20-13 07:36 PM

122. "smh... you will say anything."
In response to Reply # 117

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 12:20 AM

125. "So you're mad at me, but not the guy who called Lupe a "dork?""
In response to Reply # 122

LOL @ the Lesson

You guys are weird.

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legsdiamond
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Tue Apr-23-13 10:43 AM

180. "why would I be mad at you for being wrong? "
In response to Reply # 125

You are entitled to your opinion but that don't make shit right..

Garhart Poppwell
Member since Nov 28th 2008
18116 posts

Sun Apr-21-13 11:52 AM

130. "man listen-Kendrick is a good artist with one fucking album"
In response to Reply # 0

and to me that's something to applaud at because the album is good
but all this back and forth bullshit fans do between artists is silly, point blank
I'm not saying the OP's point was to do that, but the posts below it are filling in those blanks quite nicely and it's stupid as fuck

mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 03:10 PM

135. "Actually he has three"
In response to Reply # 130

Garhart Poppwell
Member since Nov 28th 2008
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Sun Apr-21-13 04:01 PM

139. "an album isn't a mixtape and vice versa"
In response to Reply # 135

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
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Sun Apr-21-13 07:37 PM

140. "Kendrick has 2 albums"
In response to Reply # 139

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Garhart Poppwell
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Sun Apr-21-13 07:46 PM

142. "right"
In response to Reply # 140

Bombastic
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Sun Apr-21-13 09:11 PM

143. "where do you get 2 from? I mean if you're going to strictly limit"
In response to Reply # 140

it to major label released albums than you'd say he has one.

If you're going to include Section 80 then wouldn't Overly Dedicated be included as well?

mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 09:22 PM

144. "I count OD as a mixtape"
In response to Reply # 143

Bombastic
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Sun Apr-21-13 11:54 PM

152. "didn't u say he's got three tho?"
In response to Reply # 144

mrshow
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Sun Apr-21-13 11:57 PM

154. "Shit meant "two""
In response to Reply # 152

Don't post while writing a work email, people. Still, it's all original beats on there so I guess it is 3.

Kosa12
Member since Jul 19th 2006
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Mon Apr-22-13 03:04 AM

161. "OD=mixtape Section 80/GKMC=album"
In response to Reply # 154

I paid for both sectino 80 and GKMC

OD was released for free

at least thats how i see it

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mrshow
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Mon Apr-22-13 03:21 AM

163. "Retail is usually the deciding factor for me too but..."
In response to Reply # 161

somehow it feels wrong classifying XXX and some other mixtape where a rapper spits over already-used beats though.

Kosa12
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Mon Apr-22-13 12:47 PM

171. "I see where you are coming from"
In response to Reply # 163

The lines are really blurred nowindays

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DolphinTeef
Member since Oct 25th 2009
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Sun Apr-21-13 11:40 PM

149. "mixtapes today aint even mixtapes"
In response to Reply # 139

Dr Claw
Member since Jun 25th 2003
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Mon Apr-22-13 11:57 AM

168. "correct, they're often the 'intended' version of an album"
In response to Reply # 149

which is some bullshit, because a lot of them have no physical footprint. doubly bullshit, because major labels won't/can't bankroll authentic artistic expression in this genre.

I'm mostly speaking of a phenomenon that culminated w/Drake

mixtapes of old, where mofos just basically rapped over the instrumentals of existing songs, or some random-ass bullshit with no direction... passe.

DolphinTeef
Member since Oct 25th 2009
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Tue Apr-23-13 12:11 PM

182. "yea but these days I say we count "mixtapes" as albums"
In response to Reply # 168

is an album only an album because of a major label stamp of approval?
Even if all the songs on a "mixtape" are original compositions?

to me, they are equal bodies of work. Especially considering that the "mixtapes" are often catered to the core fans.

As a matter of fact, lets call traditional albums DEMOS to the uninitiated public.

Dr_Gonzo
Member since Feb 07th 2007
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Tue Apr-23-13 01:22 PM

187. "Calling an album a demo is a bit much."
In response to Reply # 182

But you do kind of have a point with mixtapes often being pushed toward the more die hard fans.

If you're doing all that, you kind of have to count Lupe's mixtapes too. And I think that if you include Lupe's mixtapes, then Lupe Fiasco is kind of the artist that Lupe Fiasco was meant to be.

DolphinTeef
Member since Oct 25th 2009
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Tue Apr-23-13 02:43 PM

188. "I don't care much for the KL vs Lupe debate"
In response to Reply # 187

but I do agree, Lupe is who he was supposed to be. Well, I thought he'd be better but that's just me.

k0la
Member since Jan 04th 2004
1353 posts

Wed May-01-13 05:31 AM

200. "right quick before i brush my teeth....i sort of agree."
In response to Reply # 0

i think you might be right, at least in a way. kendrick's got the major backing with critical cosigns, he's far less polarizing, he's got the youth vote, he's an incredibly dope emcee with a lot to say about his ecology/how it impacts his life and the people around him, he can black the fuck out a la "...detox"...he's basically a level-minded hip-hop head's ultimate artist.

lupe seemed to have most of kendrick's situation on deck like you mention, but his star fell faster. maybe he was too transparent; i feel like a lot of more visible rappers would deter people if they spoke their less popular opinions/less-shared experiences. but as a rapper, lupe dropped numerous high-level, maybe classic projects (fnf i & ii, og food & liquor, the cool), and has at least a few gems on every release post-"the cool" (okay, maybe 'lasers' only has one).

that said, some recent lupe material isn't as awesome as recent kendrick material. but remember, 'section.80' is pretty much kendrick's 'food & liquor 2'; it's got incredible highs, but the lows (i.e. overglossy production/hooks on a few tracks) kind of ruins some songs. kendrick's also got a couple misfires on each of his mixtapes, too.

as far as how media/hip-hop heads treat kendrick, i agree he's the artist lupe should've been/we maybe hoped he'd be. but as individual artists, i think they're both where they can be expected to be.

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Quez
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Fri May-03-13 09:23 AM

201. "I can get with this... but i dont see K. dot going the desperation route"
In response to Reply # 200

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
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Fri May-03-13 09:46 AM

202. "Yeah. Lupe is basically guilty of being right about drone warfare. "
In response to Reply # 200

He was talking about Drone warfare back in 2008, before
ANYONE in major media was.

And he called the president out about it, which is really
what did him in.

If Kendrick starts talking bad about the president, he'll
suffer the same fate

Sad, but true

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Quez
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Fri May-03-13 10:19 AM

203. "I dont think people give a shit one way or another about that"
In response to Reply # 202

if the music is fire it's fire.

Tupac used to take shots at Bill Clinton all the time and he was equally if not more loved than Obama is.

Orbit_Established
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Fri May-03-13 10:23 AM

204. "Wrong. People absolutely care about that. "
In response to Reply # 203
Fri May-03-13 10:28 AM by Orbit_Established

>
>if the music is fire it's fire.

Lupe has the best song of 2013. I don't see anyone talking
about it.

Why?

Because Lupe Fiasco talked about drones and criticized
the president and is "arrogant" and a "know-it-all."

>Tupac used to take shots at Bill Clinton all the time and he
>was equally if not more loved than Obama is.

LOL -- that is factually false. Clinton got 83 and 84% of
the black vote in 92 and 96, respectively. Obama got ten
whole percentage points higher. And Obama's percentage
of the 18-29 vote was almost TWENTY percentage points higher
than Clinton.

Obama is the brown and young people's president, this is a
fact. The exact demographic that listens to Hip-Hop turned
out for him in record numbers (percentage too).

Lupe talking bad about him was costly to his career.

Thing is, Lupe was right: 4-5 years later the major media
decided to start talking about drones. His biggest problem
is being ahead of his time.

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Quez
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Fri May-03-13 10:30 AM

205. "guess what Clifford... "
In response to Reply # 204

i had no knowledge of any of that until this post... i do know lupe has made some anti-political and possibly anti-obama statements but that didnt stop me from putting SLR or a couple other songs in my car. Only dorks on Okayplayer care about shit like that. If anything, political statements like that increase an artist's cult following. Perhaps you're of that category, Wyatt.

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri May-03-13 10:47 AM

206. "Lupe has the best song, lyrically, of 2013. By far. "
In response to Reply # 205

So all this "its all about his musical output" is a
lie.

People aren't talking about it because they don't want
to admit it.

Look at that post: niggas are in there like "this song
is good, but I wish he'd made more like this."

So instead of talking about the ACTUAL SONG niggas are
in there using it as fodder to HATE EVEN MORE. Proves my
point -- very little of Lupe critique is about his music.
Its about him being a "know-it-all" who is "arrogant" and
"thinks he knows more than he knows" or, my favorite:
"he's a fake intellectual." <--bwahahaha

Show me a better song, lyrically, than Jonylah Forever
in 2013. A song HALF as good. Nobody can. He's a better
lyricist than just about anyone in the game. People don't
like him because he talked bad about their president and
doesn't seem to give a shit about what everyone else thinks.

Kendrick is the opposite. Rocks no boats, is always gracious
and GOOD for him.

But that is the main difference between them. Has nothing
to do with music.

Because almost nobody believes that verse for verse Kendrick
is better than Lupe. If you believe that, you're simply a liar
or were employed by the Obama campaign.

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Quez
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Fri May-03-13 11:29 AM

207. "look Nardwuar"
In response to Reply # 206

Just because ur a rabid Lupe fan-boy and think he's made the best (lyrical) song of 2013 (read: which is a very subjective statement) doesnt mean the other 50 people in this thread have to agree with you.

you need some pussy.

and i guarantee you... 90% of the historic Lupe fanbase dont give two shits about his political ranting. If he had made threats at Obama you'd have a point. Let it go fam

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri May-03-13 11:47 AM

208. "Yeah, you mad. "
In response to Reply # 207

>
>Just because ur a rabid Lupe fan-boy and think he's made the
>best (lyrical) song of 2013 (read: which is a very subjective
>statement) doesnt mean the other 50 people in this thread have
>to agree with you.

Bwahahahah

You wanna know what's "subjective?"

The idea that Kendrick Lamar is the artist that Lupe
is supposed to be.

>you need some pussy.

Yup-sex addict, can't get enough. Bout to go get the
beard lined up the set up the mash for later on. Good
times, bro

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Quez
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Fri May-03-13 12:20 PM

209. "^^^ Bullshit Established"
In response to Reply # 208

Orbit_Established
Member since Oct 27th 2002
52934 posts

Fri May-03-13 12:40 PM

210. "Yeah, I win. Apology accepted fam. "
In response to Reply # 209

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Ketchums
Member since Jan 30th 2005
3417 posts

Fri May-03-13 08:03 PM

214. "lol, why do you always leave things out?"
In response to Reply # 202

It's like you only focus on the part of the argument that props up your own. Yes, some people diss Lupe about his demeanor, or about his interviews and Twitter rants. That much is true - I acknowledge it.

But his music has gotten worse. You never/rarely talk about how his beats and his choruses got TERRIBLY worse to a lot of people with Lasers and F&L2, and you never talk about how Food & Liquor and The Cool are just at an entirely different height of quality than Lasers and F&L2. His lyrics have remained at a high level, but every other element of his music has depleted. I've seen these things said a lot in The Lesson, too.

Why don't you ever address those latter points? Is it because the non-music points are just easier to talk about for you, while the production/choruses are more difficult to defend?

Crash85
Member since May 08th 2007
7288 posts

Fri May-03-13 04:06 PM

213. "Anyone remember the post "Wale is the artist Lupe was suppose to be"?"
In response to Reply # 0

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