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"Nas "Life Is Good" discussion"
Tue Jul-03-12 11:06 PM by Sunny D

  

          

Nas ft. Amy Winehouse "Cherry Wine" radio rip

http://nahright.com/news/2012/07/03/nas-ft-amy-winehouse-cherry-wine/


Can we just consolidate all the Nas talk in here since it seems like it will be leaking any day now? An anchor is in order since Nas is the GOAT.

  

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Nas ain't killt it like this in over a decade...
Jul 03rd 2012
1
regardless of the album's outcome..
Jul 03rd 2012
2
this is such a great summer night record.
Jul 03rd 2012
3
I've just heard the full album, I can confirm that it's an instant class...
Jul 04th 2012
4
my jaw just dropped seeing who wrote this
Jul 04th 2012
5
WHAT!?
Jul 04th 2012
7
..hacked?
Jul 04th 2012
11
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/05/04/dope-exploding-head.jpeg
Jul 04th 2012
17
lol
Jul 07th 2012
66
LMAO
Jul 04th 2012
40
RE: I've just heard the full album, I can confirm that it's an instant c...
Jul 14th 2012
240
im fuckin with Cherry Wine
Jul 04th 2012
6
anyone notice these writing credits on Wikipedia?
Jul 04th 2012
8
Song is dope
Jul 04th 2012
9
i'm curious as to how accurate those are.
Jul 04th 2012
10
RE: i'm curious as to how accurate those are.
Jul 04th 2012
12
RE: anyone notice these writing credits on Wikipedia?
Jul 04th 2012
13
listen to the snippets
Jul 06th 2012
65
RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion
Jul 04th 2012
14
GOATness on display
Jul 04th 2012
15
Snippets
Jul 04th 2012
16
sounds like something 50 year olds would listen 2 trying 2 be cool
Jul 04th 2012
18
Yeah, because music is a contest
Jul 04th 2012
20
Mad #1
Jul 04th 2012
21
haha nice
Jul 04th 2012
29
^
Jul 05th 2012
50
jesus christ, you are such. a. fucking. wanker.
Jul 04th 2012
22
Yo son...
Jul 04th 2012
23
get your twatmouth ass the fuck off this forum n/m
Jul 04th 2012
41
      lmao
Jul 04th 2012
44
      i'm convinced it's an alias/troll
Jul 05th 2012
57
           He's a LittleX alias
Jul 05th 2012
58
Sounds very cohesive. I'm digging these snippets.
Jul 04th 2012
19
RE: Sounds very cohesive. I'm digging these snippets.
Jul 14th 2012
236
I want to highlight that the cover art/promo has been dope
Jul 04th 2012
24
lol @ the image after 'life is good' photo
Jul 12th 2012
163
      RE: lol @ the image after 'life is good' photo
Jul 12th 2012
165
Cherry Wine cdq
Jul 04th 2012
25
Lovely
Jul 04th 2012
28
Any chance this record gets on pop radio? n/m
Jul 04th 2012
31
ty
Jul 04th 2012
45
Regarding "Cherry Wine"-
Jul 04th 2012
26
above you
Jul 04th 2012
27
dont like cherry wine
Jul 04th 2012
30
This song is too perfect
Jul 04th 2012
32
meh..
Jul 04th 2012
33
it's cool.
Jul 04th 2012
34
Mad #2
Jul 04th 2012
35
lulz
Jul 04th 2012
36
      You need not respond you giggling bitch
Jul 04th 2012
49
           u mad?
Jul 05th 2012
51
                Nah son, regulating bitches is a source of enjoyment for me
Jul 05th 2012
53
Yeah, it sure ain't seein Kitty Pryde
Jul 04th 2012
37
HAHAHATOTALLY
Jul 04th 2012
38
Yeah, its no masterpiece like Blueprint 3
Jul 05th 2012
52
ahahahahahahaha
Jul 05th 2012
55
lol
Jul 05th 2012
56
HAHAHHAHAHAH
Jul 05th 2012
61
      I miss your Haikus in OKSports
Jul 12th 2012
150
           ...ahhh, this explains CondoM.
Jul 12th 2012
153
what direction could he go in?
Jul 10th 2012
82
Nas ft. Mary J Blige "Reach Out" radio rip
Jul 04th 2012
39
I like this more than the Amy Winehouse joint, but I'm probably alone on...
Jul 04th 2012
42
i like it. this one can get a lot of love on radio.
Jul 04th 2012
43
Lyrically, Nas is going in.
Jul 05th 2012
62
where did the hook borrow from?
Jul 10th 2012
75
      the 'six minutes of pleasure' piano? that's from ike's rap
Jul 12th 2012
154
           i was thinking of new edition's once in a lifetime groove
Jul 14th 2012
234
That doesnt even sound like a Buckwild beat
Jul 04th 2012
46
Buckwild produced a different track, this is Salaam Remi
Jul 04th 2012
47
Yeah I know
Jul 04th 2012
48
not even a little bit, I actually love that 80s electro r&b sound on it
Jul 16th 2012
256
definitely broke necks at the backyard bbq
Jul 05th 2012
54
RE: definitely broke necks at the backyard bbq
Jul 05th 2012
60
Man, Nas is blunted:
Jul 05th 2012
59
bumped!!
Jul 06th 2012
63
RE: bumped!!
Jul 06th 2012
64
Bye Baby
Jul 09th 2012
67
He's channelling Tupac heavy on this one
Jul 09th 2012
68
      i don't know about channeling 2pac
Jul 09th 2012
69
      ^That's basically it^ (c) P
Jul 09th 2012
72
      I don't see it other than being extremely personal
Jul 09th 2012
71
      Bye Babeeee, how you leave meeee with this Henesseee...
Jul 09th 2012
74
      What do you mean?
Jul 10th 2012
76
      I can hear whole 1st verse in Pac's voice actually.
Jul 10th 2012
78
           *spooky*
Jul 10th 2012
79
           ha!
Jul 10th 2012
80
           Yeah it's only the first verse really. I got that Pac vibe instantly.
Jul 11th 2012
86
RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion
Jul 09th 2012
70
"A Queens Story" live in Paris
Jul 09th 2012
73
Sounds like heat.
Jul 10th 2012
83
Who else sampled this Marvin song?
Jul 11th 2012
103
Best Buy is selling a version w/a T-shirt for $22
Jul 10th 2012
77
That's a pretty good deal
Jul 10th 2012
81
I didn't see a pic of the t-shirt
Jul 10th 2012
84
      I don't like it:
Jul 11th 2012
85
      whoa, what's going on with that ?
Jul 11th 2012
87
      Link to pic of shirt (best buy)
Jul 11th 2012
88
Summer On Smash
Jul 11th 2012
89
RE: Summer On Smash
Jul 11th 2012
90
you know what. you right
Jul 11th 2012
91
      RE: you know what. you right
Jul 11th 2012
93
not the worst thing in the world.
Jul 11th 2012
92
First one I'm not feeling.
Jul 11th 2012
97
I'd say more "Braveheart Party" or the joint with Game and Chris Brown
Jul 11th 2012
105
Yea I was just looking to compare it to bad tracks...
Jul 11th 2012
107
man the ZONE OUT beat was HEAT!
Jul 18th 2012
374
Could be a hit song
Jul 11th 2012
104
not bad but doesn't fit the overall vibe of the album
Jul 11th 2012
109
      ^
Jul 11th 2012
123
We need Kool G on You Wouldn't Understand
Jul 11th 2012
94
i feel you on this
Jul 17th 2012
335
More Snippets. 1:30 time limit this time
Jul 11th 2012
95
Listened to this once. Sounds awesome
Jul 11th 2012
127
RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion
Jul 11th 2012
96
OUT THERE
Jul 11th 2012
98
Finally! Esco, let's go!
Jul 11th 2012
99
O-M-G at "Queens Story" lol
Jul 11th 2012
100
this is an album that i cant wait for
Jul 11th 2012
101
Mods, anchor this now
Jul 11th 2012
102
On this album
Jul 11th 2012
106
I agree with you wholeheartedly except this...
Jul 11th 2012
108
      well
Jul 11th 2012
110
      yo.....
Jul 11th 2012
111
      Hahaha - no doubt.
Jul 11th 2012
113
      RE: Hahaha - no doubt.
Jul 11th 2012
125
           It Was Written being #2 I assume?
Jul 12th 2012
156
      oops sorry wrong level
Jul 11th 2012
119
      2 be fair tho: part of the reason 4 few classics these days is jadedness
Jul 11th 2012
120
           Fair enough.
Jul 11th 2012
121
"Stay" is some damn heat
Jul 11th 2012
112
^^
Jul 11th 2012
115
my favorite track, not mad @ No ID for re-using that sample
Jul 11th 2012
128
What sample is it ?
Jul 12th 2012
157
      don't know what the sample is
Jul 12th 2012
161
      Yeah, that was my jam last summer
Jul 15th 2012
247
      The L.A. Carnival - Seven Steps To Nowhere (link)
Jul 14th 2012
229
           awesome song
Aug 08th 2012
562
It's perfect in every sense of the word.
Jul 14th 2012
233
My song of the year. Best song on the album to me.
Jul 14th 2012
242
just heard it for the first time & that shit is beautiful
Jul 16th 2012
257
great fucking album!
Jul 11th 2012
114
At least 3rd best in his catalog
Jul 11th 2012
116
Where it at?
Jul 11th 2012
117
RE: Where it at?
Jul 11th 2012
118
      RE: Where it at?
Jul 12th 2012
160
back when is tuff
Jul 11th 2012
122
After 1 Listen (w/o bonus tracks)
Jul 11th 2012
124
the songs stand alone as great in and of themselves.
Jul 11th 2012
126
RE: the songs stand alone as great in and of themselves.
Jul 12th 2012
130
RE: the songs stand alone as great in and of themselves.
Jul 12th 2012
132
Woah, ''Where is the Love'' is a favorite right now...
Jul 12th 2012
131
RE: Woah, ''Where is the Love'' is a favorite right now...
Jul 12th 2012
135
that 2nd verse on "no introduction" was kind of crazy
Jul 12th 2012
134
No Introduction is one of my fav's.
Jul 13th 2012
205
WOW
Jul 11th 2012
129
oh snap at the 'mean streets' reference...my fav scorcse movie
Jul 12th 2012
133
nas is gonna need an oxygen tank to do worlds an addiction live...
Jul 12th 2012
136
You Wouldn't Understand
Jul 12th 2012
137
yessir, vintage IWW Nas through rest of his career.
Jul 14th 2012
221
Downloading now
Jul 12th 2012
138
that mary j blige/anthony hamilton/swizz beat row was painful
Jul 12th 2012
139
hmmmm...i liked all of those.
Jul 12th 2012
140
mary j blige shit sound sloppy
Jul 12th 2012
141
The Anthony hamilton/Swizz sequence is awful
Jul 12th 2012
142
shit is straight after that swizz song, even winehouse song is a banger
Jul 12th 2012
143
      That Mel Gibson reference in Back When is hysterical
Jul 12th 2012
146
I agree. That Anthony Hamilton joint wasn't that bad though
Jul 12th 2012
151
i like it.
Jul 12th 2012
166
yes it was. couldn't listen to any of those songs in entirety.
Jul 17th 2012
280
anchor
Jul 12th 2012
144
speaking of Nas, that crowd at the ESPYs was classic
Jul 12th 2012
145
they looked scared n/m
Jul 12th 2012
147
      if by scared you mean 'completely unresponsive' then yes n/m
Jul 12th 2012
200
           unresponsive is saying it lightly
Jul 13th 2012
207
Nas won
Jul 12th 2012
148
it's 2012 everybody!!!
Jul 12th 2012
149
lol.
Jul 12th 2012
152
....... THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO END
Jul 12th 2012
158
Holy...
Jul 12th 2012
159
ahhahahhaahhaHAHAHAHAAHHA
Jul 12th 2012
173
you must be pulling our leg with this?
Jul 14th 2012
241
^^^needs a new shirt
Jul 17th 2012
327
yo this Buckwild track though!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 12th 2012
155
how is 'nasty' not on the album proper?
Jul 12th 2012
162
RE: how is 'nasty' not on the album proper?
Jul 12th 2012
164
Beautiful record n/m
Jul 12th 2012
167
Sharpest lyrically since ILLmatic, beats selection is terrible
Jul 12th 2012
168
LOL
Jul 12th 2012
169
no, your taste is broke.
Jul 12th 2012
171
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Jul 12th 2012
172
      Sorry your ears are broke. Also, eat a dick.
Jul 13th 2012
210
           mwhahahahaha.
Jul 16th 2012
268
           2 things to add
Jul 17th 2012
323
Best rap album this year, taking over Killer Mike. n/m
Jul 12th 2012
170
RE: Best rap album this year, taking over Killer Mike. n/m
Jul 12th 2012
175
not there yet.
Jul 12th 2012
176
      agreed
Jul 12th 2012
193
      I love mikes and it's better then nas'
Jul 18th 2012
346
Back When is 1 of the greatest Hiphop songs ever
Jul 12th 2012
174
Glad he's getting his due and all but...
Jul 12th 2012
177
Well I hope you never "feel" some of the stuff on this new album lol.
Jul 12th 2012
179
lol, right.
Jul 12th 2012
180
RE: Well I hope you never "feel" some of the stuff on this new album lol...
Jul 12th 2012
188
We do this every Nas album...
Jul 12th 2012
192
      Damn.
Jul 14th 2012
222
after 1 listen...i'm confused as hell... this almost sounds like a mid
Jul 12th 2012
178
wat.
Jul 12th 2012
181
It's a testament to the quality of the songs...
Jul 12th 2012
182
YES
Jul 13th 2012
218
Bye Baby definitely sounds like a new jack swing
Jul 12th 2012
187
just because of the Guy sample? the tempo/feel/BPMs certainly doesn't
Jul 12th 2012
201
      Yea. Shit even Goodbye Love was more "late 80's" than NJS b/c
Aug 30th 2012
575
It does sound like the 90's
Jul 12th 2012
189
You Wouldn't Understand uses the same sample as The Lox on....
Jul 13th 2012
203
Reach Out and You Wouldn't Understand have a mid 90s Hot 97 vibe
Jul 13th 2012
204
Jul 12th 2012
183
No I.D. vs Salaam Remi, who had better production on the album?
Jul 12th 2012
184
is anything on the album as exciting as
Jul 12th 2012
185
Drake has a writer/producer credit on Bye Baby?
Jul 12th 2012
186
the hook is a aaron hall sample.
Jul 12th 2012
191
      Maybe he's the girl in the background on "Goodbye love"
Jul 31st 2012
549
very good album. but nas declined lyrically a little bit.
Jul 12th 2012
190
You're WILDIN
Jul 12th 2012
196
That Johnny Depp-Janis Joplin line is confusing...
Jul 12th 2012
199
yeah, right.
Jul 14th 2012
225
I agree
Jul 15th 2012
245
I agree
Jul 19th 2012
424
"Trust" is out
Jul 12th 2012
194
Love this
Jul 13th 2012
212
thanks
Jul 13th 2012
216
purposefully haven't listened to one lick of this album
Jul 12th 2012
195
RE: purposefully haven't listened to one lick of this album
Jul 16th 2012
271
      Haha!
Jul 17th 2012
297
lol@how happy I am
Jul 12th 2012
197
Hanging out w/ Damien Marley ...
Jul 12th 2012
198
pretty much kept this on repeat in the Senns at work today
Jul 12th 2012
202
18 Songs? WTF is the order?
Jul 14th 2012
230
      you didn't buy the deluxe version
Jul 14th 2012
231
      I bought the regular version, but I didn't open it yet
Jul 18th 2012
342
      you got the regular version fam
Jul 14th 2012
232
      Other than Nasty...
Jul 14th 2012
237
      I was pissed because JB didn't have the deluxe version
Jul 14th 2012
244
"roses" sounds skippable at first but nas is rappin on that shit
Jul 13th 2012
206
don't let "the black bond" go under the radar
Jul 13th 2012
208
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Black Bond
Jul 25th 2012
509
My favorite Nas track in YEARS.
Jul 27th 2012
535
That is a brief thank you shout-out...
Jul 13th 2012
209
yep, this is great
Jul 13th 2012
211
This album is great. Buying it Tuesday.
Jul 13th 2012
213
any one heard 'lust' its listed on the deluxe tracklist
Jul 13th 2012
214
you mean "trust"
Jul 13th 2012
215
      ahh i misread the fancy typefont, thanks
Jul 14th 2012
223
my nigga is back! could've kept four songs but it's still a great album
Jul 13th 2012
217
Legal issue maybe
Jul 13th 2012
219
Stephon Marbury screw face @
Jul 14th 2012
220
Yall don't realize the dexterity of the flow on "You Wouldn't Understand...
Jul 14th 2012
224
that second verse? oooohweeee!
Jul 14th 2012
226
RE: that second verse? oooohweeee!
Jul 14th 2012
235
RE: Yall don't realize the dexterity of the flow on "You Wouldn't Unders...
Jul 14th 2012
227
it's somewhere between Street Disciple and God's Son
Jul 14th 2012
228
just caught a listen to the whole joint...
Jul 14th 2012
238
^Basically
Jul 14th 2012
243
^ YESSSSSHHHHHHH
Jul 23rd 2012
485
Haven't liked a Nas album this much since It Was Written
Jul 14th 2012
239
Incredible album. I'm so glad he dropped this.
Jul 15th 2012
246
easily my 3rd favorite nas album after illmatic and iww
Jul 15th 2012
248
i like "dr. knockboot"
Jul 15th 2012
254
      i recorded it to cassette (my cd walkman broke) and
Jul 15th 2012
255
The production was flawless? lolz
Jul 15th 2012
249
Still waiting for Tuesday comes. I refuse to get this leak lol.
Jul 15th 2012
250
after hearing this
Jul 15th 2012
251
El's album is slightly better due to him trimming the fat
Jul 15th 2012
253
I don't see the 'slight'
Jul 16th 2012
264
you guys actually like El's album more than Killer Mike's?
Jul 16th 2012
263
yes, sequencing was way off on that album
Jul 16th 2012
265
Production-wise, yes
Jul 16th 2012
266
      Co-sign
Jul 16th 2012
272
Nah, but El-P is great.
Jul 17th 2012
285
      not at all
Jul 17th 2012
309
           I mean, really?
Jul 26th 2012
531
burp.
Jul 15th 2012
252
oh also i love summer on smash #fuckwhatyouheard
Jul 16th 2012
258
3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?
Jul 16th 2012
259
you're joking right?
Jul 16th 2012
260
whats your 3 worst?
Jul 16th 2012
261
      you're crazy. especially with "queens story"
Jul 16th 2012
262
RE: 3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?
Jul 16th 2012
277
RE: 3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?
Jul 18th 2012
343
RE: 3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?
Jul 18th 2012
396
After a week:
Jul 30th 2012
548
several days later...
Jul 16th 2012
267
I went as far as cutting out songs
Jul 16th 2012
273
      nah, that "you and I" is from the original song
Jul 16th 2012
274
      Ah, thanks
Jul 16th 2012
275
      top 3 chop nominees: No Intro (JusticeLeague overdid it, OD'd on 'epic')
Jul 16th 2012
276
           Funny you say that...
Jul 24th 2012
494
                it was elaborately overdramatic or even maudlinly epic
Jul 26th 2012
526
The haters are late
Jul 16th 2012
269
We have to wait till Guiness' antidepressants wear off
Jul 16th 2012
270
THIS IS SO DOPE
Jul 17th 2012
278
i think the sequencing is very problematic
Jul 17th 2012
279
I'm not getting the Hear, My Dear comparisons
Jul 17th 2012
282
doesn't he address the album to her in the very first track?
Jul 17th 2012
330
yeah, it's buggin me too
Jul 17th 2012
284
Anyone have a problem with the fact the kicks do not knock?
Jul 17th 2012
281
The mixing wasn't good on this album
Jul 17th 2012
283
Lyrically, this is one of the hungriest albums ever made
Jul 17th 2012
286
Third best in the discog, still a 4/5 tho
Jul 17th 2012
287
would agree outside of Lost Tapes (if u count it) & Stillmatic.
Jul 17th 2012
288
      You could make an argument for Stillmtic
Jul 17th 2012
303
FFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 17th 2012
289
still ain't fckin with R.A.P. Music though
Jul 17th 2012
290
lol very true.
Jul 24th 2012
493
RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion
Jul 17th 2012
291
i've been super critical of nas over the years, but this shit right here...
Jul 17th 2012
292
The more I think about it ...
Jul 17th 2012
300
      Except it'll go hard in the club at 1:30am
Jul 17th 2012
305
      Haha - you're probably right...
Jul 17th 2012
306
      at most, should have been a bonus track...
Jul 18th 2012
352
      If I were drunk, it'd sound like even more of a mess
Jul 18th 2012
369
      lol I don't even hate the record that much...
Jul 24th 2012
492
I went with the deluxe w/ shirt cuz I'm a sucka
Jul 17th 2012
293
RE: I went with the deluxe w/ shirt cuz I'm a sucka
Jul 17th 2012
294
      they're all XL
Jul 17th 2012
308
Best rapper alive
Jul 17th 2012
295
For the love of god, this is a beautiful record.
Jul 17th 2012
296
First listen...pretty damn good
Jul 17th 2012
298
Lunch break, suited up, drove to Best Buy, copped the deluxe CD and ...
Jul 17th 2012
299
Fuck that kid...
Jul 17th 2012
301
dogg, I looked like someone's dad at the checkout counter buying this
Jul 17th 2012
304
I didn't listen to/download shit. I bought this CD at Target.
Jul 17th 2012
302
^^Well said
Jul 18th 2012
360
http://i40.tinypic.com/2mrayv5.jpg
Jul 17th 2012
307
Hahahahaha. This cracked me up.
Jul 17th 2012
310
about that Drake writing credit
Jul 17th 2012
311
he didn't get a writing credit
Jul 17th 2012
331
4/10
Jul 17th 2012
312
Uhhh...yea.
Jul 17th 2012
314
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42RML92tDyQ
Jul 17th 2012
317
who?
Jul 17th 2012
321
Needle Drop is 'relevant' because of his kinetic video style
Jul 18th 2012
370
some times I really agree with his point of view
Jul 19th 2012
404
      LOLLOL at this reply, so true though
Jul 24th 2012
491
white hipster
Jul 18th 2012
384
Big Nas fan, but...
Jul 17th 2012
313
Wow...
Jul 17th 2012
315
      RE: Wow...
Jul 17th 2012
320
      RE: Wow...
Jul 17th 2012
322
      Dont get me wrong...
Jul 18th 2012
351
           Word...
Jul 18th 2012
353
           this is why I don't get listening to leaks
Jul 18th 2012
371
                Yeah
Jul 18th 2012
                Yeah
Jul 18th 2012
375
Holy hell @ the 2nd verse on "Back When"
Jul 17th 2012
316
only three I see repeat probs with
Jul 17th 2012
318
I agree with Summer on Smash...
Jul 17th 2012
319
It's just a horrible combo...
Jul 18th 2012
344
only song i don't roll w/ is "World's An Addiction"...
Jul 17th 2012
328
PREACH...
Jul 17th 2012
329
Like others, I love Reach Out
Jul 17th 2012
339
Jul 17th 2012
324
Yeah I guess it kinda reminds me of OC's "Far From Yours"
Jul 17th 2012
325
I can't think of the song but
Jul 17th 2012
326
      RE: I can't think of the song but
Jul 18th 2012
345
Jul 17th 2012
332
Too stellar
Jul 17th 2012
333
RE: Too stellar
Jul 17th 2012
334
''You Wouldn't Understand'' is quickly becoming one of my favorites, too
Jul 17th 2012
336
did you notice the Brooklyn Queens break by 3rd Bass on Where's The Love...
Jul 18th 2012
355
      I did, which is also part of the appeal
Jul 18th 2012
366
great album
Jul 17th 2012
337
Y'all stop frontin' on "Summer On Smash" lol.
Jul 17th 2012
338
If you don't like Summer On Smash you lying to yourself
Jul 18th 2012
340
nah b, that shit sucks straight up.
Jul 18th 2012
341
Production is excellent, good verses
Jul 18th 2012
347
      yes swizzy* ruins it for me, not Miguel.
Jul 18th 2012
348
      Its the cursing from Miguel, the Ciroc mentions, etc that ...
Jul 18th 2012
350
           That's exactly what I thought
Jul 18th 2012
367
its prob my least fav, but I can live with it
Jul 18th 2012
349
SoS is out of place but is NOT a BAD song. That's where niggas is wrong....
Jul 18th 2012
364
      I love this album but
Jul 20th 2012
426
      RE: SoS is out of place but is NOT a BAD song. That's where niggas is wr...
Jul 28th 2012
538
the best thing about this album to me
Jul 18th 2012
354
Where was he bitter on God's Son?
Jul 18th 2012
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      not really there
Jul 18th 2012
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           Yea I agree...
Jul 18th 2012
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                Just listened to The Cross...
Jul 18th 2012
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Life Is Good = Hip-Hop's Here, My Dear
Jul 18th 2012
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I dunno... see, while that comparison is invited
Jul 18th 2012
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waited for the physical...this is incredible. Nas sounds HUNGRY.
Jul 18th 2012
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RE: waited for the physical...this is incredible. Nas sounds HUNGRY.
Jul 18th 2012
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      Yeah I'd prob do SoS and the Ross joint as bonus cuts
Jul 18th 2012
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must suck for all the people who have been defending nas over shitty bea...
Jul 18th 2012
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White hipsters' reviews...I stay vindicted
Jul 18th 2012
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*coughs*
Jul 18th 2012
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They have two reviews...why?
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      RE: They have two reviews...why?
Jul 18th 2012
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      Yet, they both count and they both are posted...funny that
Jul 18th 2012
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      The second (linked above) was mine
Jul 20th 2012
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           damn...i'll start checking for your reviews.
Jul 20th 2012
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                thanks man. and Delajoo too.
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                     RE: thanks man. and Delajoo too.
Jul 21st 2012
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RE: White hipsters' reviews...I stay vindicted
Jul 18th 2012
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why would hipsters need to "conspire" against nas?
Jul 18th 2012
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      RE: why would hipsters need to "conspire" against nas?
Jul 18th 2012
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      while I agree there's something to the hipster Nas view, I don't
Jul 18th 2012
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      I think that's what bothers you and other jay fans...I'm NOT pretending
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           Here's the thing about the Nas/Jay dichotomy
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           ^^^^^^^^
Jul 19th 2012
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           I agree 100% and like you said. .
Jul 19th 2012
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           RE: Here's the thing about the Nas/Jay dichotomy
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           on the subjective side, we're all entitled to our own opinions
Jul 19th 2012
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                Yeah, this epitomizes the bullshit about Jay-Z right here
Jul 19th 2012
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                     yes, as in consistently maintained a relevant rap career for two decades
Jul 19th 2012
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                     Oh, ok. So Jay-Z's greatness has nothing to do with rapping?
Jul 19th 2012
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                          weird since I never said that at all, Jay's pretty great at rapping n/m
Jul 19th 2012
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                               Umm. You cited Jay's "consistency."
Jul 19th 2012
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                                    look, I don't care about this fake argument you're trying to have
Jul 19th 2012
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                                         Nah, its all relevant to the topic, doggie
Jul 20th 2012
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                                         http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/157/234/99...
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                                         we shold discuss why there's no reason to mention jay in a nas review
Jul 20th 2012
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                                              No fuckin doubt.
Jul 20th 2012
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                                              shit.
Jul 20th 2012
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                                              dawg you mention Jay in every Nas post, I didn't even read the review
Jul 20th 2012
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                     ^^^
Jul 20th 2012
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      he's right^^^^
Jul 18th 2012
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           yep.
Jul 19th 2012
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Best New Music on Pitchfork. That puts a pretty big hole in your theory
Jul 20th 2012
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      But then the review begins like this...
Jul 20th 2012
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           It's true though.
Jul 21st 2012
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                It's a pointless comment...
Jul 22nd 2012
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                     Not me
Jul 22nd 2012
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                     No it isn't
Aug 06th 2012
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Jul 18th 2012
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What's funny/ironic about this album...
Jul 18th 2012
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RE: What's funny/ironic about this album...
Jul 18th 2012
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Hah - daps homie
Jul 18th 2012
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agreed, that simple mantra running thru this album & appearing
Jul 18th 2012
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Yep, exactly.
Jul 18th 2012
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It's still fairly vague as a concept album
Jul 18th 2012
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I see your point...
Jul 18th 2012
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      You're hitting on what makes Nas so fascinating..
Jul 18th 2012
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Yeah.
Jul 19th 2012
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...and for the record...
Jul 18th 2012
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aawwwww how cute
Jul 19th 2012
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So can we end the "Nas needs the Illmatic team back" chants?
Jul 18th 2012
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^
Jul 18th 2012
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Some reviews
Jul 18th 2012
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RE: Some reviews
Jul 18th 2012
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This review stoopid...
Jul 18th 2012
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Yeah, cats review Nas albums like he's an estranged friend
Jul 19th 2012
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That review is weird...
Jul 22nd 2012
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You don't think content is important in reviewing music?
Jul 23rd 2012
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Content in this context=lyrics, flow, beats etc.
Jul 25th 2012
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      Word word.
Jul 25th 2012
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yup, that was me, specifically Rolling Stone's AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Jul 23rd 2012
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Yeah, fuck this review.
Jul 23rd 2012
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Anyone know who is on the hook of Roses?
Jul 18th 2012
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rapgenius says Nikki Flores
Jul 24th 2012
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XXL gives Life Is Good a XXL (swipe)
Jul 19th 2012
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Nas Q&A--VIBE (Personal Swipe)
Jul 19th 2012
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DOPE
Jul 20th 2012
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RE: DOPE
Jul 20th 2012
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Ross probably spit it
Jul 20th 2012
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good stuff, dude. thanks for sharing.
Jul 20th 2012
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RE: good stuff, dude. thanks for sharing.
Jul 20th 2012
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good stuff as always
Jul 20th 2012
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RE: good stuff as always
Jul 20th 2012
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shoulda had Jay do it....
Jul 21st 2012
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that's a real good interview
Jul 20th 2012
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      RE: that's a real good interview
Jul 20th 2012
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"Summer on smash" vs "Pants on the ground"
Jul 19th 2012
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haha, I can hear that a bit now that you mention it
Jul 19th 2012
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now I'm hearing Favre doing that chorus
Jul 20th 2012
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      I told Swizzy I'd do this(c)Purp Farve
Jul 20th 2012
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this POS truly ruined an epic piece of art...i hate it so much
Jul 20th 2012
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      Me too.
Jul 20th 2012
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           Summer on Trash is so bad...
Jul 20th 2012
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I'll be here when you niggers turn on Nas yet again
Jul 19th 2012
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Uh oh, pfork review.........
Jul 20th 2012
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lotta stuff about illmatic in there...it's 2012
Jul 20th 2012
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It's also highly negative for no reason....
Jul 20th 2012
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      oh, i peeped...whole review seemed insincere
Jul 20th 2012
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      fuck it. I laughed. because they're so mad
Jul 20th 2012
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fuck them, I stopped reading after the first few sentences
Jul 20th 2012
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Yep see my post #432...
Jul 20th 2012
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I'm glad it's favorable but why do y'all give them do
Jul 20th 2012
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I care* only from the perspective that some folks do
Jul 20th 2012
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Somebody at pitchfork farts and theres a post
Jul 20th 2012
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Damn, I just got a shoutout in a Pitchfork review.
Jul 22nd 2012
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9/10 3rd best album I'll say it's about a tie w stillmatic
Jul 20th 2012
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its actually way better than Stillmatic, nice obligatory Jay mention tho
Jul 20th 2012
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Upon further inspection I think it may be better
Jul 20th 2012
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I'd give it 8.5-9/10, fifth best album, which is great considering.
Jul 20th 2012
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      Fifth?? Mann gone
Jul 20th 2012
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You Wouldn't Understand is 'Hero' after it grows up & its nuts drop
Jul 20th 2012
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This dude on my Fb timeline made a post titled:
Jul 20th 2012
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i predict Jay following suit and making a great album
Jul 23rd 2012
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Pretty solid Nas album
Jul 20th 2012
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it's a new album from an established artist, no news there
Jul 20th 2012
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Another #1 debut it seems...
Jul 21st 2012
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Good shit...
Jul 21st 2012
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKEhVkseW2g
Jul 21st 2012
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Question...
Jul 21st 2012
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RE: Dope. n/m
Jul 21st 2012
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The more I listen to this the more this becomes my second favorite Nas.....
Jul 23rd 2012
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All extremely well said bruh...
Jul 23rd 2012
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      RE: All extremely well said bruh...
Jul 24th 2012
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Summer on Smash is the ONLY song I nodded my head to.
Jul 24th 2012
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bamma moleculed ass bamma
Jul 24th 2012
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      *splashes ciroc*
Jul 24th 2012
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Nasty Nas does 139k
Jul 24th 2012
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This is a serious question...
Jul 24th 2012
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      Yep, that's considered good.
Jul 24th 2012
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      and cherry wine hasn't even been released yet
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      Agree.
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      it'd be a perfect smooth summer single
Jul 25th 2012
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      i'm pretty sure i saw on twitter somewhere that SOS is up next.
Jul 25th 2012
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           isn't that already a single?
Jul 25th 2012
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      not really-its the worst opening week for his career aside from Illmatic
Jul 25th 2012
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           Word...
Jul 25th 2012
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                RE: Word...
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                maybe, though I don't think the 'Untitled' flap really did a whole lot
Jul 25th 2012
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                Yep.
Jul 25th 2012
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                RE: maybe, though I don't think the 'Untitled' flap really did a whole l...
Jul 26th 2012
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                     That someone was ME
Jul 26th 2012
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                Spotify...FTW!!!
Jul 26th 2012
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Nas says Marvin "Inspired" him
Jul 24th 2012
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this last paragraph
Aug 02nd 2012
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Congrats to Nas on a dope ass album!
Jul 24th 2012
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Anyone else notice Nas' lisp
Jul 25th 2012
512
Maybe they...
Aug 11th 2012
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this album is very good
Jul 25th 2012
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Where's the Love has emerged...
Jul 25th 2012
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Black Band for me...got damn that joint is tough
Jul 27th 2012
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You Wouldn't Understand is one of the better songs, IMO
Jul 25th 2012
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      Agree.
Jul 25th 2012
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      agreed i forgot to put that one on my keepers list
Jul 25th 2012
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      man, that and reach out are my two hated songs
Jul 25th 2012
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Anyone else think the album was mixed a bit poorly?
Jul 26th 2012
528
Nas is the Greatest Rapper of All Time
Jul 26th 2012
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RE: Nas is the Greatest Rapper of All Time
Aug 02nd 2012
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      we got the same #1
Aug 02nd 2012
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lol @ this being better than IWW...
Jul 27th 2012
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I didn't realize snares were the difference maker...
Jul 27th 2012
533
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyV2cPLuFuA
Jul 27th 2012
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If 3 out of 18 = half then you need to go back to math class son
Jul 28th 2012
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      Lol pipe down, I didn't say it was a bad record...
Jul 28th 2012
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           I didn't say you did...I said your criticism was bullshit
Jul 29th 2012
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                It isn't bullshit though...
Jul 29th 2012
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                     Hip-Hop has no rules
Jul 30th 2012
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                          ^^^ defender of snareless hip hop!!!
Jul 30th 2012
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                          *face palm*
Aug 01st 2012
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                          yet u seem to be setting rules against him stating his own preference
Aug 04th 2012
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                               I was actually just pointing out
Aug 11th 2012
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might be #1 second week out as well
Jul 28th 2012
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"can you imagine writing your deposition?
Jul 30th 2012
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i love the scars line from locomotive
Jul 30th 2012
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RE: "can you imagine writing your deposition?
Aug 01st 2012
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it's a classic
Jul 30th 2012
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trust (itunes bonus track)...nas on that it was written/i am flow. dope...
Jul 31st 2012
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Is the deluxe edition worth buying?
Aug 03rd 2012
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I don't see how you can't go w/ the deluxe
Aug 04th 2012
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yes. heck, i bought the collectors set
Aug 04th 2012
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"nasty" and "where's the love?" are definitely worth having.
Aug 05th 2012
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need to get on record: i fucks with this
Aug 11th 2012
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I can see why NY cats would love this album... it's clearly written
Aug 29th 2012
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If nothing else is clear your ability to type while drunk is incredible!
Aug 29th 2012
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this nigga said subject matter c-. lol.
Aug 29th 2012
569
niggas like you don't even like illmatic...fuckin fraud
Aug 29th 2012
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      I never denied Illmatic fam... it's still his best album, unfortunately.
Aug 30th 2012
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           Explain yourself re: subject matter being C-, then
Aug 30th 2012
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           let's just say this... 11 albums later, I see very little growth, if any
Aug 30th 2012
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                this guys said the song was too emo.
Aug 30th 2012
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                boy u just told me about myself... you should feel proud. um just
Aug 30th 2012
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                RE: let's just say this... 11 albums later, I see very little growth, if...
Aug 30th 2012
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                     actually, this bullet was for basaglia... my bad lol
Aug 30th 2012
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           do you like illmatic? what's so great about it? i'd like to know.
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                okay...
Aug 30th 2012
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Why is the Swizz song getting more hate than that dreadful MJB track?
Aug 29th 2012
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urbgriot
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1. "Nas ain't killt it like this in over a decade..."
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https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

  

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2. "regardless of the album's outcome.."
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this thread has potential to be an exercise in mad-making. with that being said...I can't wait!

  

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3. "this is such a great summer night record."
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damn he's in a zone.

and hearing Amy. Damn girl. Just damn.

  

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CondoM
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4. "I've just heard the full album, I can confirm that it's an instant class..."
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http://www.last.fm/user/_CondoM_/

  

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amplifya7
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5. "my jaw just dropped seeing who wrote this"
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lol

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7. "WHAT!?"
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__________________________________
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11. "..hacked?"
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Black Irish
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17. "http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/05/04/dope-exploding-head.jpeg"
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"The nameless was the beginning of heaven and earth;
The named was the mother of the myriad creatures."

Go in peace.
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The Wordsmith
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66. "lol"
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Since 1976

  

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40. "LMAO"
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Wed Jul-04-12 02:37 PM by Dr Claw

  

          

if CondoM is singing the praises of Nas, the world is OVER

  

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240. "RE: I've just heard the full album, I can confirm that it's an instant c..."
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I don't know if i view it as a classic just yet, but it is a stellar album. Listened to the deluxe version and there's only about 3 or 4 songs I don't like.

  

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6. "im fuckin with Cherry Wine"
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8. "anyone notice these writing credits on Wikipedia?"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Good_(Nas_album)#Track_listing

Eminem, Kanye, and Jay-Z on "Back When"? Guessing it's just scratch samples

Drake on "Bye Baby"

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

  

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9. "Song is dope"
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the 5 songs out are dope to me...this is my favorite one so far...looks like Nas best Lp since Stillmatic...might end up better than Stillmatic...we will see...

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10. "i'm curious as to how accurate those are."
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12. "RE: i'm curious as to how accurate those are."
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good question. i would prefer more JUSTICE League and less Salam Remi.

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13. "RE: anyone notice these writing credits on Wikipedia?"
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Good_(Nas_album)#Track_listing
>
>Eminem, Kanye, and Jay-Z on "Back When"? Guessing it's just
>scratch samples

Most likely


>Drake on "Bye Baby"

Produced by 40, so he probably vocally sampled drake as well

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65. "listen to the snippets"
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**********
I should put that in a song

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14. "RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion"
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Have only heard nasty, the don and daughters. Will hold out for the full album. Will definitely be buying this. Really looking forward to it.

  

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15. "GOATness on display"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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16. "Snippets"
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http://nahright.com/news/2012/07/03/nas-life-is-good-snippets/

gamertag: MF ANDE

  

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18. "sounds like something 50 year olds would listen 2 trying 2 be cool"
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Nas talk way too much on tracks, don't let the shit breath
obvious gimmicky collabs
too much singing
sometimes just like damn nigga STFU
he sound like TD Jakes
Jay Z won

  

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20. "Yeah, because music is a contest"
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FOH

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21. "Mad #1"
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And we'll count them off from here

  

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29. "haha nice"
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50. "^"
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22. "jesus christ, you are such. a. fucking. wanker."
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you must lead a very sad existence indeed, you poor dear.

  

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23. "Yo son..."
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No need to say anything to these idiots.

Just count off the mad with me!

  

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41. "get your twatmouth ass the fuck off this forum n/m"
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44. "lmao"
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www.royallegacy.org
http://therapfest.com/up-next-artists/

  

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57. "i'm convinced it's an alias/troll"
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in the past week he's been MAD AS FUCK about:

D'Angelo's BET performance
rambling rampant homophobia in any of the Frank Ocean threads in here & GD
and now calling Nas old people music

  

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58. "He's a LittleX alias"
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Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

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19. "Sounds very cohesive. I'm digging these snippets."
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236. "RE: Sounds very cohesive. I'm digging these snippets."
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sounds like the production is solid, almost every Nas album would be a classic if the production on most of them wasn't so terrible. He's got the worst taste in beats ever i don't understand how New York State of Mind part of mind can share an album with "i want to talk to you"

shudders

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24. "I want to highlight that the cover art/promo has been dope"
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All of the artwork for the album has been nice so far. It's simple yet effective.

Nasty
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/z4ueu

The Don
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/hy4li

Daughters
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Accident Murderers
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Loco-Motive
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/y9qng

Life Is Good
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/flabs

  

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163. "lol @ the image after 'life is good' photo"
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click the picture.

lol.

  

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165. "RE: lol @ the image after 'life is good' photo"
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lmao @ the one after that, too.

  

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25. "Cherry Wine cdq"
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http://www.sharebeast.com/d26q0f63hgcr


i'm really gonna try not to listen to any more until the full thing drops. everything has been dope thus far.

  

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28. "Lovely"
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31. "Any chance this record gets on pop radio? n/m"
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  

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45. "ty"
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26. "Regarding "Cherry Wine"-"
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I've never been so impressed by such a low-quality bearly listenable radio rip.

The lyrics, the melody, the cadence actually cuts through to reveal a great song.

  

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27. "above you"
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30. "dont like cherry wine"
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32. "This song is too perfect"
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__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

  

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33. "meh.."
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hook and singing kinda ruins it for me. otherwise its aiight... probably my least favorite so far besides the rick ross joint. still, miles ahead of alot of his other recent shit.

  

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34. "it's cool."
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everything has been cool, nothing really interesting. people are giddy that nas is making the kind of music he's best at, but it seems like a retreat into safe predictability: remi beats, disjointed street descriptions, weak hooks.

nas' experimentation has been disastrous, so the retrograde move is sensible. not saying he should only rap over southside beats, but isn't there a way for him to maximize his talent without retracing the same formula he's been doing for 18 years? whatever, we'll see.

  

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35. "Mad #2"
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Nm

  

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36. "lulz"
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49. "You need not respond you giggling bitch"
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Nm

  

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51. "u mad?"
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53. "Nah son, regulating bitches is a source of enjoyment for me"
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Nm

  

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37. "Yeah, it sure ain't seein Kitty Pryde"
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___________________________
OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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38. "HAHAHATOTALLY"
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52. "Yeah, its no masterpiece like Blueprint 3"
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Lulz



----------------------------

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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55. "ahahahahahahaha"
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~Kosa12

  

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56. "lol"
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----------------------------------------

"Fuck aliens." © WarriorPoet415

  

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61. "HAHAHHAHAHAH"
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because i've ever praised BP3

  

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150. "I miss your Haikus in OKSports"
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>because i've ever praised BP3

Maybe you should revisit that because
you're on suicide watch at this point

I mean, you won't even admit this album is
great...Kelis' crazy ass prolly was tempted
to tweet about hot blazish this is

Lulz

You're mostly a pathetic Homo sapien at this
point, but now you've become an awful, awful
poster too

Admitting this album was great would have made
you a much more effective Nas hater, because
you woulda had standards against which to shit
on his other work

Now you just Lulz + Mad


LulzMad




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Young Broadway Star Urgently Needs a Bone Marrow Donor. Is it you? http://MatchShannon.com/







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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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153. "...ahhh, this explains CondoM."
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>Admitting this album was great would have made
>you a much more effective Nas hater, because
>you woulda had standards against which to shit
>on his other work

  

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82. "what direction could he go in?"
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trillwave?
something like shabazz palaces?
experimentation for the sake of it?
lex luger beats?

im ok with him just doing whats expected. its not innovative, its not 'new', but its really good, which was half the problem with a lot of his material over the years. its not like common doing be, sounding halfhearted, nas sounds inspired.

  

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39. "Nas ft. Mary J Blige "Reach Out" radio rip"
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http://www.mediafire.com/?l2at4cazw932cmt

  

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42. "I like this more than the Amy Winehouse joint, but I'm probably alone on..."
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___________________________
OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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43. "i like it. this one can get a lot of love on radio. "
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62. "Lyrically, Nas is going in."
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Really nice introspection on that first verse.

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75. "where did the hook borrow from?"
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i know the sample is Games People Play

  

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154. "the 'six minutes of pleasure' piano? that's from ike's rap "
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234. "i was thinking of new edition's once in a lifetime groove"
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46. "That doesnt even sound like a Buckwild beat"
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47. "Buckwild produced a different track, this is Salaam Remi"
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___________________________
OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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48. "Yeah I know"
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>

I'm talking about "You Wouldn't Understand."

But then again i'm just listening to a snippet so I'll wait to hear the full track.

  

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256. "not even a little bit, I actually love that 80s electro r&b sound on it"
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but I wouldn't have guessed Buckwild produced that shit if you gave me 50 guesses.

Crazy.

  

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54. "definitely broke necks at the backyard bbq"
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neighbors on both sides turned their systems low to get a listen lol

WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!?! NOOOOBODDDDYY!!!!

  

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60. "RE: definitely broke necks at the backyard bbq"
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>neighbors on both sides turned their systems low to get a
>listen lol


you got that whole shit...inboax

r.i.p. dilla

  

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cidolfas
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59. "Man, Nas is blunted:"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOnSJ8fgJhg&feature=related

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63. "bumped!!"
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Just to piss you off.

www.anwarmorse.com
https://www.instagram.com/thereal_anwarmorse99/

  

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64. "RE: bumped!!"
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asshole lol

i saw it at the top and my heart skipped a beat.

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67. "Bye Baby"
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http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/13854-bye-baby/

  

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68. "He's channelling Tupac heavy on this one"
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69. "i don't know about channeling 2pac"
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he's channeling what's shaping up to be a classic album though.

  

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72. "^That's basically it^ (c) P"
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>he's channeling what's shaping up to be a classic album
>though.


__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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71. "I don't see it other than being extremely personal"
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But Nas has always been doing that

  

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74. "Bye Babeeee, how you leave meeee with this Henesseee..."
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not really, brah.

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mistamonotone - taboo
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76. "What do you mean?"
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_________________

  

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78. "I can hear whole 1st verse in Pac's voice actually."
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Especially 'he no longer livin'

---
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79. "*spooky*"
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>Especially 'he no longer livin'

  

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80. "ha!"
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86. "Yeah it's only the first verse really. I got that Pac vibe instantly."
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70. "RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion"
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wasn't really feeling the Amy or Mary collabs but back on with Bye, Baby. just not into those type choruses and the Reach Out sample is overused. Bye Baby is dope as shit tho, perfect sample, like the beat switchup for 3rd verse too.

  

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73. ""A Queens Story" live in Paris"
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http://nahright.com/news/2012/07/09/nas-ft-dj-green-lantern-z-a-queens-story-live-in-paris/

  

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83. "Sounds like heat."
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This album is shaping up to be excellence.

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103. "Who else sampled this Marvin song?"
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Specifically the "la LAA laaaa" part? The whole thing rings a bell, tho.

By the way, song sounds heat.

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77. "Best Buy is selling a version w/a T-shirt for $22"
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Life+Is+Good+%28Best+Buy+Exclusive%29+%28Wtsh%29+%28Deluxe+Edition%29+-+CD/5879963.p?id=2502751&skuId=5879963

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81. "That's a pretty good deal"
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That's not a bad price considering artist/band t-shirts can easily cost that themselves.

Hopefully they'll have sizes at least up to XL lol.


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84. "I didn't see a pic of the t-shirt"
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85. "I don't like it:"
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat277000050003&type=category&h=387

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87. "whoa, what's going on with that ?"
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88. "Link to pic of shirt (best buy)"
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat277000050003&type=category&h=403

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89. "Summer On Smash"
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http://www.sharebeast.com/y1e4w1sfj88o


  

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90. "RE: Summer On Smash"
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i actually sort of dig this. def shouldve been a single. maybe it will be soon.

swizz isnt that annoying on this, and the beat is pretty good.

actually the verse at the end that swizz spits is pretty bad.

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91. "you know what. you right"
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i was waiting to hate on it because of swizz. i think that's miguel on it rapping/singing.

  

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93. "RE: you know what. you right"
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yeah i dont mind the hook part. the verse isnt very good but its brief.

i dig the summer vibe overall.

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92. "not the worst thing in the world."
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good beat. should've gotten to it right away. could've gone without "ciroc on splash" and miguel's rapping.

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97. "First one I'm not feeling."
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This is truly unbearable to me.

Will be the "Smokin'" or "Zone Out" of this album, I suppose.

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105. "I'd say more "Braveheart Party" or the joint with Game and Chris Brown"
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Single/radio soundy, not a bad track, but feels out of place.

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107. "Yea I was just looking to compare it to bad tracks..."
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or duds on otherwise (what I think will be) great albums. Haha. But yea, good call.

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374. "man the ZONE OUT beat was HEAT!"
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If the Bravehearts could spit that song would bang...but they can't

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104. "Could be a hit song "
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109. "not bad but doesn't fit the overall vibe of the album"
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123. "^"
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I'll probably let it ride the first few play throughs but it's the number one candidate so far to get skipped.
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94. "We need Kool G on You Wouldn't Understand"
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ASAP!!!!

  

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335. "i feel you on this"
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Buckwild went back to his "Fast Life" bag of tricks for that one.


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95. "More Snippets. 1:30 time limit this time"
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Sounds classic man

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127. "Listened to this once. Sounds awesome"
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>Sounds classic man
>
>http://www.sharebeast.com/kw7kt2oanfep


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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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96. "RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion"
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>Nas ft. Amy Winehouse "Cherry Wine" radio rip
>
>http://nahright.com/news/2012/07/03/nas-ft-amy-winehouse-cherry-wine/
>
>
>Can we just consolidate all the Nas talk in here since it
>seems like it will be leaking any day now? An anchor is in
>order since Nas is the GOAT.

Clean version leaked

  

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98. "OUT THERE"
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Finafuckingly

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99. "Finally! Esco, let's go! "
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100. "O-M-G at "Queens Story" lol"
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so hyped right now

  

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101. "this is an album that i cant wait for "
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i need this in my life lol.

i have it pre-ordered and i doubt it will arrive on time.

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102. "Mods, anchor this now"
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106. "On this album"
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He sounds like the kid on Illmatic has grown up, this is more of a compliment to Illmatic than Stillmatic was, especially since that title was more of a "I didn't fall off, I still got it" kind of thing.

"Summer On Smash" even answers the "why can't/doesn't Nas hop on a commercial/hit type of beat" It's a hard beat but I can see people spazzing to this in the club.

"A Queens Story". . . NIGGA! lol

and I still got 6 songs I haven't heard yet but for all these years of reading reviews comparing EVERY album to Illmatic somehow, if you not giving him props for this one you just trying to get attention lol

Classic in my book.

and I really see Nas being the first to take rap into the old man territory and find some way to make it work.

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108. "I agree with you wholeheartedly except this..."
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>Classic in my book.

Let's slow down right quick hahah...I straight up LOVE every song so far, besides one, as well, but (a) classic gets tossed around too early in general and (b) as an extension of that, you're still yet to hear 6 songs you said haha...

But yea everything else, I'm with you. Nas is on it right now. On fucking fire.

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110. "well"
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part of those are the bonus cuts and I was already on "Back When" by the time I finished that. . . I type slow lol

and I'm not going to cut hairs and say bonus cuts take away from the album as a whole and right now listening to "Stay" which is the last part of the main album I haven't heard

CLASSIC IN MY BOOK

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111. "yo....."
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Lovin this shit so far....nas went in. all i can say, this is a DEF. purchase

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113. "Hahaha - no doubt."
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To each their own. I am just one of those "hate to throw the word 'classic' around til it has some time to marinate" type mufuckers. But I feel you. This album is seriously shaping up, no question. Can't wait to hear the rest.

And yea --- I think I am with you in that if I'm judging an album I won't count bonus tracks for or against the full main album unless they REALLY fuck shit up positively or negatively.

But I do wish Nas released Nasty a little later so it could've been part of the main album. I still fucking blaze that track like 3x a week haha.

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125. "RE: Hahaha - no doubt."
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Yeah, its a DOPE LP. Just listened to it straight through. Man, "Back When", "Roses", Black Bond" & "Stay" are crazy to me. The Anthony Hamilton joint as well. This could be #3 on his LP chart...for real...

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156. "It Was Written being #2 I assume?"
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Just curious.

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119. "oops sorry wrong level"
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120. "2 be fair tho: part of the reason 4 few classics these days is jadedness"
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ppl used to get super excited about albums and just bug out about them without such strictly enforced measuredness in their collective assessments

therefore when we look back on more recent nice albums to ask if classic, we don't have any memories of people losing their minds


  

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121. "Fair enough."
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I see what you're saying. Makes sense.

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112. ""Stay" is some damn heat"
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115. "^^"
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128. "my favorite track, not mad @ No ID for re-using that sample"
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that's the type of shit I want to hear Nas on

  

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157. "What sample is it ?"
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And where was it used previously?

I haven't heard the song, btw. Chances are I'd know it when I hear it but I'm impatient haha

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161. "don't know what the sample is"
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No ID used it for a Cyhi/Big Sean song, probably Cyhi's best performance but of course it goes without saying Nas>>>, and I like the arrangement with the backing instruments better on Stay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43zB0ml3oI8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  

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247. "Yeah, that was my jam last summer"
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I was thinking CyHi and Sean were gonna lead GOOD, didn't see 2 Chainz coming

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229. "The L.A. Carnival - Seven Steps To Nowhere (link)"
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skip to the 1:10 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUQLmtsEVQE

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562. "awesome song"
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glad no ID re-used this for nas

  

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233. "It's perfect in every sense of the word."
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242. "My song of the year. Best song on the album to me."
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257. "just heard it for the first time & that shit is beautiful"
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114. "great fucking album! "
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probably his second best behind you know what. this is gonna light a fire under hov's ass. watch..

  

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go mack
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116. "At least 3rd best in his catalog"
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off one listen off shitty clean webrip and ain't heard bonus tracks yet. Getting proper now, and I have this pre-ordered as well. A couple songs I didn't care for, Summer on Smash being one but the good far outweighs the bad on here.

  

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117. "Where it at?"
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I keep downloading fakes or snippets. Can't wait for my pre-order. Need to hear this now!

www.newzbomb.com

  

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go mack
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118. "RE: Where it at?"
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check your inbox

  

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realityrap
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160. "RE: Where it at?"
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Let me get that too fam!

  

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bucknchange
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122. "back when is tuff"
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the 2nd half w/ the 'bonus' cuts is some of the iller shit

  

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124. "After 1 Listen (w/o bonus tracks)"
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I gotta revisit IWW but Life Is Good might be his 2nd best produced album. It's definitely the strongest first half he's had since Illmatic but it gets a little hit-or-miss for me after that. There's some sloppy rapping and clunky lines but the production is uniformly good. Had he cut this down to 12 tracks, he'd almost definitely have the major label rap album of the year.

  

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selppataei
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126. "the songs stand alone as great in and of themselves."
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well, most of 'em, anyway. the only ones i hear as C/B-minus-ish are "summer on smash" and "no introduction", and "where is the love" of the bonus tracks.

no bar is wasted. i mean, what kind of f***ing streak is this? imo, he's been razor sharp on his verses since untitled, on through distant relatives, he's outshined artists on their own albums, and now this. come on.

the production is what puts this over the top. the songs are better crafted, the beats are more interesting--even the bonus tracks would be more memorable tracks on the last some nas albums. murph was so right about the highs on this album. and i imagine if i had heard the previously released tracks for the first time tonight, i would've been even more blown away.

it's not perfect. i'm not in love with the sequencing. i think "roses" should've made the album proper. but that's what technology is for. overall, i'm somewhere between pleased and giddy. somebody give me a better word, please. thanks.

edit: i'm keeping the version of "the don" with supercat on it. legal stuff?

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130. "RE: the songs stand alone as great in and of themselves."
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no introduction is great to me

summer on smash is the only one I really don't feel and Reach Out kind of lukewarm on as well

  

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132. "RE: the songs stand alone as great in and of themselves."
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yeah, i agree on "reach out." i need to listen to "no introduction" some more. i was expecting "stillmatic intro" part two over a beat akin to JL's work on deeper than rap. i wanna get my head around that third verse, too.

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131. "Woah, ''Where is the Love'' is a favorite right now..."
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>well, most of 'em, anyway. the only ones i hear as
>C/B-minus-ish are "summer on smash" and "no introduction", and
>"where is the love" of the bonus tracks.

That beat is beautiful.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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selppataei
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135. "RE: Woah, ''Where is the Love'' is a favorite right now..."
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that type of hook really isn't my cup of tea. reminds me of rap songs that feature bruno mars, hayley williams or skylar grey. haha.

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go ask ya momma
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134. "that 2nd verse on "no introduction" was kind of crazy"
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L0WD0WN
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205. "No Introduction is one of my fav's."
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that shit sound so triumphant! It almost made me cry. Dude's verses are insane.

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Messiah4976
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129. "WOW"
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how good is this dudes catalog.....shit is crazy

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Maroon Tiger 2
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133. "oh snap at the 'mean streets' reference...my fav scorcse movie"
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high like giraffe pussy....

im livin' life with some buuuurdensome niggas...

  

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Maroon Tiger 2
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136. "nas is gonna need an oxygen tank to do worlds an addiction live..."
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high like giraffe pussy....

im livin' life with some buuuurdensome niggas...

  

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farbod
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137. "You Wouldn't Understand"
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This is the best song he can do as an adult.

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High Society
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221. "yessir, vintage IWW Nas through rest of his career."
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this MY SHIT!

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ChiefRocka
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138. "Downloading now"
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<<<<<<<<<certified Nas stan


I've kept myself relatively unspoiled, only tracks I've heard so far are The Don, Nasty & Accident Murderers.

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go ask ya momma
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139. "that mary j blige/anthony hamilton/swizz beat row was painful"
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but the first 5, and the last 5, were A+

  

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140. "hmmmm...i liked all of those."
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even summer on smash grew on me.

  

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go ask ya momma
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141. "mary j blige shit sound sloppy"
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the anthony hamilton shit ok but slow
swizz beat song.. skipped

but then next two songs might be the best on the whole thing

  

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142. "The Anthony hamilton/Swizz sequence is awful "
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Following shitty "conscious" Nas song witi a shitty "jiggy" Nas song isn't right. There's a couple headscratchers on the 2nd half. Bye Baby works on paper but something about Nas's performance/writing is sloppy.

That Mary J. song is alot of fun though.

  

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go ask ya momma
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143. "shit is straight after that swizz song, even winehouse song is a banger"
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edit: bye baby sound like nas doing kanye west

  

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mrshow
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146. "That Mel Gibson reference in Back When is hysterical"
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Just a classic "WTF Nas?" moment. You're right about Bye Baby being a Kanye impression except Kanye is able to pull off sloppy sentimentality better. Stay is phenomenal though.



>edit: bye baby sound like nas doing kanye west

  

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151. "I agree. That Anthony Hamilton joint wasn't that bad though"
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166. "i like it."
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<shrug>

  

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280. "yes it was. couldn't listen to any of those songs in entirety."
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144. "anchor"
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classic

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go ask ya momma
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145. "speaking of Nas, that crowd at the ESPYs was classic"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DXPjrskQbo

  

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147. "they looked scared n/m"
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GamerTag and PSN: PokeEmAll

  

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200. "if by scared you mean 'completely unresponsive' then yes n/m"
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207. "unresponsive is saying it lightly"
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watch that video, when the camera pans out.. i never seen that many people not give a fuck

  

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148. "Nas won"
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http://www.last.fm/user/_CondoM_/

  

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149. "it's 2012 everybody!!!"
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Good Lord.

  

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152. "lol."
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158. "....... THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO END"
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159. "Holy..."
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fuck.

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173. "ahhahahhaahhaHAHAHAHAAHHA"
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I'm dying

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241. "you must be pulling our leg with this?"
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327. "^^^needs a new shirt"
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nm

  

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155. "yo this Buckwild track though!!!!!!!!!!"
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like i said before it dont sound like a Buckwild beat

but i dunno, it's pretty good

  

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ninjitsu
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162. "how is 'nasty' not on the album proper?"
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that shit is most aptly named.

  

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164. "RE: how is 'nasty' not on the album proper?"
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i understand Nasty not being there cuz it's a year old (still dope nonetheless), but Roses should've def been in there.

but seriously this album is sooooo goood. not even the biggest nas detractors can front on this.

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167. "Beautiful record n/m"
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168. "Sharpest lyrically since ILLmatic, beats selection is terrible"
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This may be Nas' best lyrics yet. Just sharp wit, dope story telling and great timing. The beats are horrible, save for maybe two of em. Whoever mastered this should be fired. The kicks don't knock and are smooshed horribly. The only beat that really knocks is the shitty Swizz one. Seriously, the beats on here really sound like amateur hour. Really wish he would have a dude with a good ear pick beats for him, because the lyrics here need great beats to match them.

  

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169. "LOL"
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>The only beat
>that really knocks is the shitty Swizz one.

We can't talk music.

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171. "no, your taste is broke."
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FOH.

  

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172. "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL."
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what a fuckin idiot.

Nas finally has GOOD beat selection (not that i've ever had a problem w/ it but...) and this jackass is gonna say THAT'S the problem w/ the album.

smh.

  

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Admbmb
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210. "Sorry your ears are broke. Also, eat a dick."
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>what a fuckin idiot.
>
>Nas finally has GOOD beat selection (not that i've ever had a
>problem w/ it but...) and this jackass is gonna say THAT'S the
>problem w/ the album.
>
>smh.

No reason to call me an idiot or a jackass, but its the internet, so do what you gotta do to compensate for the fact in real life you're a pussy. And save for a couple of beats, the beats on here are poor. Train your ears to recognize what a knock is and you will hear the kicks have been overcompressed and the knock is absent. But I don't fault you....its hard to clearly hear when your ears are usually buried between ass cheeks. Also, Nas is known for having shitty ears for beats (illmatic's beat were chosen for him). Nas stans drive me nuts on here, because they will make excuses for him all day, even when shit is subpar. There's no reason at Nas' level he can't have the best of the best beats and top notch mastering.

  

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268. "mwhahahahaha."
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323. "2 things to add"
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1. if you aren't banging the official release on CD in a good system, then you can't definitively say whether it knocks or not.

I have the CDQ download and have been playing it all week and it sounds great to me.

2. From all of the beats I've selected to use from the"beat-offs", yours (which I love by the way) was waaaaaaayyy too loud to the point it was muddy and clipping everywhere.

at some point, hip-hop listeners got into the thinking of the louder the better and while I agree, there's nothing like a quality knock, over-doing it is not a good look.

Crisp, quality sound is where it's at period and I have a feeling when I cop the official tomorrow, I will confirm my thoughts that this album sounds good.

  

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170. "Best rap album this year, taking over Killer Mike. n/m"
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
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175. "RE: Best rap album this year, taking over Killer Mike. n/m"
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i agree and i thought it would take a lot to over take Killa Kill from Adamsville,

Nas did his thang on here i am thoroughly impressed, as for beats selection i don't know what you cats consider bangers in this climate of hiphop now a days...NAS is in his lane...

Classic Material

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176. "not there yet."
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nas got some skippable joints.
mike's is great all the way thru.
i gotta listen some more...
its close

  

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193. "agreed"
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Not sure how i feel about the Mary joint, the Summer Smash joint, and You Wouldnt Understand (which many of you seem to like), but they're all definitely not bad and may need more spins.

Killer Mike is great front to top.

There are 2 El-P songs that are "just good" as apposed to great.

and there are your top 3 albums of 2012.

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346. "I love mikes and it's better then nas'"
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But ghetto gospel is a mess and def skippable.

That said the Mary joint, summer on smash are skippqble and nothing is as strong as my personal fav rap music

  

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174. "Back When is 1 of the greatest Hiphop songs ever"
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177. "Glad he's getting his due and all but..."
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Ya'll been hatin' hard on Nas over the years. He's been puttin' out dope albums for years IMO. Just listened to that joint getting married off of Streets disciple. Maybe it's because I just got married but I was really feelin' that joint.

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179. "Well I hope you never "feel" some of the stuff on this new album lol."
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>Just listened to that
>joint getting married off of Streets disciple. Maybe it's
>because I just got married but I was really feelin' that
>joint.


Good luck and success Brother.

  

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180. "lol, right."
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188. "RE: Well I hope you never "feel" some of the stuff on this new album lol..."
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Lol, I didn't even think about that until after I posted it.

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192. "We do this every Nas album..."
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The Lesson:
Lead single drops: Oh this is crazy, this is going to be Nas' comeback.
Album leaks: wow this is nas at his most focused, finally a complete project
Album is officialy out in stores: nas is spitting but the beat selection is turrrible.
Two weeks after ablum is released: nas lost


I really do think this is the album that breaks that trend here. I like all of nas' latest work, but i can see faults in it and i know some people are extra critical of nas. But this one really is head and shoulders above everything he's put out in ten years.

Also "Getting Married" is still one of my fav Nas songs, but I just got dumped (brutally) and "Bye Baby" is exactly what i needed.

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222. "Damn."
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>Also "Getting Married" is still one of my fav Nas songs, but I
>just got dumped (brutally) and "Bye Baby" is exactly what i
>needed.

Sorry to hear that bro. Keep yo head up cause there are better womens for
you out there.

  

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178. "after 1 listen...i'm confused as hell... this almost sounds like a mid"
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90s hip hop/new jack swing album .. lol

not sure if i like it yet

  

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181. "wat."
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182. "It's a testament to the quality of the songs..."
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in and of themselves that people are overlooking how all over the place this album is in some ways. The first 6 songs is phenomenal though.

  

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218. "YES"
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>in and of themselves that people are overlooking how all over
>the place this album is in some ways. The first 6 songs is
>phenomenal though.

Those first 6 songs were special. On first listen, I was deadset on thinking Nas had finally done it again. Then Summer on Smash dropped my black ass down into this cold, cold world.

Still, there's some exceptional moments of out and out dope rapping, personal insight, and just GP solid grown man talk on this album. I shudder to imagine what great songs will pop up in a few weeks that somehow didn't make the album. Cuz we all know Nas is the master of that.

Jimaveli

  

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187. "Bye Baby definitely sounds like a new jack swing"
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>90s hip hop/new jack swing album .. lol
>
>not sure if i like it yet
>
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201. "just because of the Guy sample? the tempo/feel/BPMs certainly doesn't"
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575. "Yea. Shit even Goodbye Love was more "late 80's" than NJS b/c"
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189. "It does sound like the 90's"
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of course "bye baby" and "reach out" but I was feeling that on "You wouldn't understand" and a couple others.

I think that's why this sounds so complete to me, like, he didn't try to make any of his old albums but he captured that sound and made something better than trying to remake some old stuff.

and "Stay" just sounds like how the production on Nigger should have been, I like Nigger but I think most of the production on there was too bright for the concept.

I aint posted like this on here in a minute lol dope album

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203. "You Wouldn't Understand uses the same sample as The Lox on...."
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Let's Start Rap Over, so that might explain why that one feels like the 90s too.

  

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204. "Reach Out and You Wouldn't Understand have a mid 90s Hot 97 vibe"
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really works for me. The less said about Summer on Smash the better though.

  

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183. ""
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184. "No I.D. vs Salaam Remi, who had better production on the album?"
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185. "is anything on the album as exciting as "
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http://stereogum.com/1091932/slaughterhouse-hammer-dance-el-p-remix-stereogum-premiere/mp3s

  

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186. "Drake has a writer/producer credit on Bye Baby?"
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Maybe wikipedia got it wrong but...

14. "Bye Baby" N. Jones, Aubrey Graham, S. Gibbs, Noah Shebib Salaam Remi, Noah "40" Shebib, Drake

Weird. I'm guessing he wrote the hook.

  

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191. "the hook is a aaron hall sample."
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549. "Maybe he's the girl in the background on "Goodbye love""
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190. "very good album. but nas declined lyrically a little bit."
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not by much,
but it's noticeable.
some places where he strugglin
to squeeze syllables into they bar frames.
and reachin hard on some metaphors.
this the 1st album where it happens plenty.

would still take him over anybody in the game tho.

  

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196. "You're WILDIN"
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This is the sharpest he's been lyrically since... probably 97?


He laced this whole album

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199. "That Johnny Depp-Janis Joplin line is confusing..."
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on many levels.

  

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225. "yeah, right."
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245. "I agree"
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The clunkers on here are very frustrating because theres some of his best work in years on here. Queen's Story is probably my favorite Remi-produced Nas song ever.

  

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424. "I agree"
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I rank this album at a 3.5 or 4 AT BEST. It's a good album not a great one. His lyrics aren't jaw dropping anymore and I guess that's ok. Some really good songs on here some eh songs (I see you Anthony Hamilton). Overall I'm happy with my purchase and it seems to be better than the last few albums going back to God's Son. However if we are being honest, there isn't one song (not named A Queens Story) that's better than You're The Man on this album. Wonder what happened to the joint he did with AZ.

I listened to this album and thought it was cool. A good album for Nas in 2012, and then I put on Danny Brown's XXX and zoned the fuck out with a screw face on. It's hard to keep bumping this album which honestly outside of a few songs is easy listening rap (for the most part) when young cats like Kendrick, Schoolboy and Danny Brown got those lyrics to make me screw my face up. At times Nas is spitting but mostly he's just telling an honest story from a man we kind of watched grow up. Nothing wrong with that, nothing to be ashamed of. At least at his age he can still pull off a Nasty and The Don and not stumble.

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194. ""Trust" is out"
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http://hypetrak.com/2012/07/nas-trust-bonus-track/

  

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212. "Love this"
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216. "thanks"
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gotta add this to the album, my version didn't have it.

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195. "purposefully haven't listened to one lick of this album"
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i wanna go in fresh, like frank costanza.

but shit, reading all this hype...i hope i'm not disappointed.

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271. "RE: purposefully haven't listened to one lick of this album"
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>i wanna go in fresh, like frank costanza.
>

Sidenote...I reference this Frank Costanza quote ALL the time.
You have no idea how many times I say "STILL, STILL"

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297. "Haha!"
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Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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197. "lol@how happy I am"
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Don't care what NO one says, either.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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198. "Hanging out w/ Damien Marley ..."
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... surely has helped him make better albums since. That's my verdict thus far.

  

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202. "pretty much kept this on repeat in the Senns at work today"
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I'd wager between 4 and 6 full close listens, since all I'm doing is cleaning shit up

brief thoughts on all the songs

1: this beat is not really the sort of thing I enjoy, but Nas attacked it pretty hard. it's not an exciting song but it's solid for an opener; I'd have preferred Nasty

2: This shit is just heat

3: This shit is just heat, black out style

4: I didn't listen to any of the advances and that title had me wondering what the hell this song would be about; I get it but don't like having Ross on a song calling people out for being "fake real", the beat isn't really my style (t's well done, just not all the way for me), it's really enjoyable but enough is off about it that it's not the track it planned on being

5: Like I said, didn't hear any advances so this song was a surprise. Any rap song that's honestly and openly about reality I enjoy almost on principle, and this song is fucking great even if it wasn't about real events. Possibly my favorite song on the album proper, this track's got to have Jay rubbing his temples lol

6: Like Accident Murderers, some things that don't rub me right but I've got to say that those verses are all extremely right to me. It wasn't a pleasure on first listen but when it came back around on the repeat, I found myself enjoying it more each time.

7: Another one that had to grow on me, I like the stuff about the doctor struggling to do his job while thinking about killing his wife, one of the more memorable story moments on the album.

8: I might completely hate Summer on Smash after a few more listens; luckily it doesn't feel as gross as it did the first spin, but it really had me thinking this and the two previous songs were completely terrible

9: I know I like this song a lot, but by title alone I'm not actually sure which one it was. So, there's that.

10: This is a cool song, I've written before about the odd, international nostalgia for '90s New York project life shared by hip-hop heads that didn't live there, and this song taps into that. Not a great song, but really good.

11: So this is a Heavy D beat flipped by Remi? It's hype, but I'd have to listen again to say how I actually feel.

12: I love this song for the beat alone even though it's pretty classic rambling Nas; feels like he got ahold of a Curren$y tape and it made him sad.

13: For a six minute song it could have used some more Nas; that Winehouse hook is beautiful but without a verse from her (from what I could tell) it's kind of stale to just repeat it over and over. I'm fine with it but I can see how it could get old a few weeks from now.

14: Like I said with Daughters, pretty much incredible to me by default. Awesome beat confirms it.

15: Like I said, if this opened the album it'd be a wrap.

16: Like it a lot, not able to recall the subject matter off the top. I'll say all the bonus tracks should have been on the album and that middle section could have been sliced off.

17: . Buck up Nas!

18: Dig it, big fan of Fauntleroy's hooks though.


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230. "18 Songs? WTF is the order?"
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I bought a physical copy today (it's out here in Australia) and the list is:

1. No Introduction
2. Loco-Motive
3. A Queens Story
4. Accident Murderers
5. Daughters
6. Reach Out
7. World's An Addiction
8. Summer on Smash
9. You Wouldn't Understand
10. Back When
11. The Don
12. Stay
13. Cherry Wine
14. Bye Baby

  

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Sunny D
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231. "you didn't buy the deluxe version"
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http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/life-is-good-deluxe-version/id540235206

  

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342. "I bought the regular version, but I didn't open it yet"
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I'm glad I read this post cause I'm about to take mine back and get the deluxe version. Good lookin' out fam'.

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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232. "you got the regular version fam"
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deluxe has
15. Nasty
16. The Black Bond
17. Roses
18. Where's the Love
19. Trust (itunes exclusive)

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237. "Other than Nasty..."
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...which I'm going to assume you've played to death, you're not missing much. I can stop listening at Bye Baby and pretend those other songs weren't tacked on for commodity sake, but they're there and they're messing even more with the already wonky sequencing of this album.

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244. "I was pissed because JB didn't have the deluxe version"
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so I went home and bought it on iTunes instead. Usually I don't like buying digital but this came with the liner notes and also had an iTunes exclusive track (Trust) so I'm not complaining.

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go ask ya momma
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206. ""roses" sounds skippable at first but nas is rappin on that shit"
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Sunny D
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208. "don't let "the black bond" go under the radar"
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shits dope

  

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509. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Black Bond"
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I was sleepin' on this track the first few listens. But its DOPE

  

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535. "My favorite Nas track in YEARS."
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Been on repeat nonstop.
Goddamn does he get busy over that track.
I'm up in my ride acting like a conductor when those horns juke in and out.

______******_______******______******

" ... You know, ya'll laugh at the wrong shit ... "
-- Eddie Murphy

  

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jaybennie
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209. "That is a brief thank you shout-out..."
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...after reading that, it is definitely aimed at the ladies whom he loved in the past.

  

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211. "yep, this is great"
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213. "This album is great. Buying it Tuesday."
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214. "any one heard 'lust' its listed on the deluxe tracklist"
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215. "you mean "trust""
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#194

  

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223. "ahh i misread the fancy typefont, thanks"
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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217. "my nigga is back! could've kept four songs but it's still a great album"
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one minor complaint is the mixing. just doesn't sound as crisp as it should be. Maybe it's just me. and yes, I have the actual CD. and why the random edit on "Bye Baby" where he says "said you caught him cheating with mom fucking other women" it's edited on the album but not on the version he has up on his soundcloud page.

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219. "Legal issue maybe"
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nm

  

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220. "Stephon Marbury screw face @ "
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That beat change on bye baby. My god. After a listen a great cd. By the way his flow is top notch on it.

  

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224. "Yall don't realize the dexterity of the flow on "You Wouldn't Understand..."
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226. "that second verse? oooohweeee!"
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that might be my favorite song that isn't Bye Baby.

  

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235. "RE: that second verse? oooohweeee!"
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http://d.pr/i/t2JR

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go mack
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227. "RE: Yall don't realize the dexterity of the flow on "You Wouldn't Unders..."
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the 3rd verse on the Anthony Hamilton joint is insane too

  

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228. "it's somewhere between Street Disciple and God's Son"
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I agree w/ some who are saying he's not spitting as hard on here. he's not slouching or anything but from all this hype i expected more.

solid album overall. definitely better than the last two.

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238. "just caught a listen to the whole joint..."
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THIS ALBUM IS CRAAAACK POINT BLANK PERIOD!!!

the hardest he's spit in years

production is flawless

yo, im fucking speechless right now cause im too busy nodding furiously to "Queens Story"

but this is what the game needs right now


this is what the fans need right now


this is what the hood needs right now


this is what the world need right now




this gonna be a good summer/fall/winter

thank u Nas.

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243. "^Basically "
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>THIS ALBUM IS CRAAAACK POINT BLANK PERIOD!!!
>
>the hardest he's spit in years
>
>production is flawless
>
>yo, im fucking speechless right now cause im too busy nodding
>furiously to "Queens Story"
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>but this is what the game needs right now
>
>
>this is what the fans need right now
>
>
>this is what the hood needs right now
>
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>this is what the world need right now
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>
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>this gonna be a good summer/fall/winter
>
>thank u Nas.


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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485. "^ YESSSSSHHHHHHH"
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Drokayplayer ™


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239. "Haven't liked a Nas album this much since It Was Written"
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246. "Incredible album. I'm so glad he dropped this."
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Aside from the Swizz joint, I can feel the whole thing. The production is right there with GOAT's rhymes for most of the album. Unexpectedly dope release real deep in to his career gotta love that.

Lots of 4 star songs on here:

Loco-Motive
A Queens Story
Daughters
You Wouldn't Understand
Back When
The Don
Stay
Cherry Wine
Bye Baby
Nasty
The Black Bond

Haven't heard Roses or Trust all the way through yet but damn if this isn't top 5 Nas albums for me.

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248. "easily my 3rd favorite nas album after illmatic and iww"
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knocking i am out of that spot (idk how people let dr knock boot & big things ruin a whole album for them but whatevz)
this shit goes and doesn't come back

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254. "i like "dr. knockboot""
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For me, it was the rare instance where Nas stepped outside of his comfort zone and didn't fall flat on his ass. By contrast, "Big Things" is a prime example of why Nas should hug that zone like it's a good lawyer.

My biggest problems with 'I Am...' are the tinny, post-Biggie New York beats ("Favor For A Favor", "Ghetto Prisoners", "I Want To Talk To You", "Life Is What You Make It"), the lame, trend-latching joints ("You Won't See Me Tonight", "Big Things"), his wince-inducing attempts to be "on some TJ Swan shit" (hell, even TJ Swan wasn't TJ Swan), and the noticeable drop-off in rap potency from 'It Was Written'.

That album was one of the biggest disappointments I've had in my music-buying life.


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255. "i recorded it to cassette (my cd walkman broke) and"
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played that shit front to back every day to and from school for months
i really cant relate
lol

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249. "The production was flawless? lolz"
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lets not go overboard now

  

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250. "Still waiting for Tuesday comes. I refuse to get this leak lol."
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Boximus Crime
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251. "after hearing this"
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EL P still has the album of the year.

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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253. "El's album is slightly better due to him trimming the fat"
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He left no room for error. The middle portion of LIG could've been left off. The highs are higher on Nas LP though.

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Boximus Crime
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264. "I don't see the 'slight'"
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It's by margins. It was cohesive, it flowed better, the said and unsaid painted a much better story. Even if the give aways were surprises to me Nas still didn't have a better flowing album with those bullet points that El P had. What seasoned vets need to realize is that we not listening your new album with fresh ears. We're comparing it to your last works. El P gets that. Cancer 4 Cure left no needs of "well it aint better than Fan Dam" bullshit. He murked his last albums.

With the bang Nas made with Nasty....I wouldn't have had some of these tracks on there. The Swizz joint? The one with Mary(with a beat I've heard before that Mobb Deep did better), and the Rick Ross collab(that I would have traded with the one they did on Rich Forever). This album felt like the month of March.

  

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263. "you guys actually like El's album more than Killer Mike's?"
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El's other album?

  

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Boximus Crime
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265. " yes, sequencing was way off on that album"
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Killer Mike was coming into a fresh new sound that actually fit him with El P being a dude we never thought would of gelled with him. He starts the album off with "Big Bang"? Seriously?

Untitled would have been his clear choice but instead he wanted to do that? Then the heavy hitters weren't even placed well on the album. Banging ass songs, just not sequenced right.

  

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266. "Production-wise, yes"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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272. "Co-sign"
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285. "Nah, but El-P is great. "
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This Nas shit is on another level up

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309. "not at all"
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Everything from the landscape painted by the sound to the topics he chose to rhyme about puts him miles ahead of Nas on this album. The production was unwordly and the topics touched on in Drones Over Brooklyn, Tougher Colder Killer, and 4$Vic shuts everything down as far as range. The song he did touching on domestic violence was so enjoyable to the ear you almost missed the message.

  

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531. "I mean, really?"
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El-P is very talented. A genius in his own right.

But, as an MC, I find getting through an entire album of him rapping to be damn
near impossible.

his best 2 projects are R.A.P. Music & The Cold Vein.

but anyway, this is for another post.

In no way, shape or form should we be talking about El-P in a Nas post.

  

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252. "burp."
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Life Is Good (Produced by No I.D. unless noted)

1|No Introduction|4:15 (Produced by J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League) 3.75 - 4
2|Loco-Motive (feat. Large Professor)|3:40 5
3|A Queens Story|4:35 (Produced by Salaam Remi) 5
4|Accident Murderers (feat. Rick Ross)|4:27 3.5 - 4
5|Daughters|3:20 5
6|Reach Out (feat. Mary J. Blige)|3:46 (Produced by Salaam Remi, Darkchild, DJ Hot Day & Nas) 4 - 4.5
7|World's an Addiction (feat. Anthony Hamilton)|5:01 (Produced by Salaam Remi) 4 - 4.25
8|Summer on Smash (feat. Miguel & Swizz Beatz)|4:19 (Produced by Swizz Beatz) 2 - 2.25
9|You Wouldn't Understand (feat. Victoria Monet)|4:35 (Produced by Buckwild) 4 - 4.75
10|Back When|3:22 4.5 - 5
11|The Don|3:02 (Produced by Salaam Remi, Heavy D & Da Internz) 4 - 4.25
12|Stay|3:45 4.75 - 5
13|Cherry Wine (feat. Amy Winehouse)|5:56 (Produced by Salaam Remi) 4 - 4.25
14|Bye Baby|3:59 (Produced by Salaam Remi & 40) 5
|Bonus Tracks|
15|Nasty|3:04 (Produced by Salaam Remi) 4.25 - 5
16|The Black Bond|2:22 (Produced by Salaam Remi) 4 - 4.25
17|Roses|3:31 (Produced by Al Shux) 4
18|Where's the Love? (feat. Cocaine 80s)|4:27 3.75 - 4

Overall: 77 4.28/5 86%: Exceptional, repeated listens demanded; BUY IT

When Untitled was released four years ago, it felt like a major crossroads for Nas' career. Two years prior he'd declared the death of hip-hop, or simply warned of its imminence depending on which publicity wave you believe. Following that gimmick with an album originally titled with the darkest racial slur in American history and an album cover featuring the letter N whip-scarred across his back (as a footnote, Nas claimed to be a Columbia Records slave on The Lost Tapes) was a risky move for Nas, one that could have seen the general public label him past his prime, unable to sell without gimmicks. But the album's fiery political stances and a reinvigorated Nas made for an album that ended up being his most entertaining in years. Which made it a little surprising when he got wrapped up in a divorce suit just a few months after its release, a life change that eventually sent him on a creative tear through all sorts of uncharted territory, including Young Jeezy, Rick Ross and DJ Khaled collaborations and a co-LP with Damian Marley, as well as making out of place appearances on Young Money's The Carter IV, Careless World and Roman Reloaded.

Alongside all of that was the release of street single "Nasty", included here on the Deluxe Edition, along with promises to return to the sound of Illmatic (or at least It Was Written) and that "Life Is Good." Being an artist whose courted controversy ever since he got "God's Son" tattooed across his stomach, however, you've got to take notice of that cover art before you even think about giving the CD a spin. That's a hell of a cover, the ghost of Wedding Day Kelis draped over Nas' knee as he sits in an all black room, pondering how the past became the present. It's an idea that goes beyond Kelis, who truthfully doesn't factor into the LP much other than a brief mention on "No Introduction" and the closing set of tracks on the album proper. "Loco-Motive" and "A Queens Story" are a pair of No I.D.-produced boom bap bangers that see both artists assuming the positions of their original primes, with Nas delivering deliriously detailed-yet-scatterbrain story raps with vintage It Was Written density while No I.D. pretends he's still producing for Battle Rap Common, not Gap Common. Large Professor handles bridge duty on "Loco-Motive", consistently revealing it's "for stuck in the '90s niggas", and later in the album Nas goes full nostalgic with "Back When". No I.D. and Salaam Remi, who handle the bulk of the album's production along with contributions from Buckwild on "You Wouldn't Understand", J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League on "No Introduction" and Heavy D (R.I.P.) on "The Don", enhance this feeling of fond memories that pervades the album with samples of Guy, New Edition, Super Cat, MC Shan, Run-DMC and Rakim throughout the record.

But it's not all about looking back. "A Queens Story" will undoubtedly be the record most old-time Nas heads gravitate towards initially or indefinitely, but for my money its when Nas embraces more modern production styles that he both succeeds and fails the most spectacularly. Over the past decade most Nas listeners have come to expect the majority of his production won't be particularly mind-blowing, an argument that's thoroughly implausible throughout Life Is Good. There are certainly a few tracks that won't fully connect with listeners, sure: Anthony Hamilton collaboration "World's an Addiction" is incredibly melodramatic with big, swelling string sections and Hamilton's husky vocals being put to nearly questionable use. "No Introduction" aims for a churchy vibe with its Kirk Franklin sample but just kind of lays there in limbo, buoyed by Nas' ecstatic performance. And "Summer on Smash" is just an train wreck, a record that surely could have been replaced by bonus tracks "The Black Bond" or "Roses" and everyone would have been much better off. Miguel raps instead of sings (which, after the Art Dealer Chic free EPs blowing my wig earlier this year, is soul-crushingly disappointing), Swizz Beatz says "Summer on Smash" a lot and Nas raps about women he wants to have sex with. It's an incredibly bland song that normally wouldn't elicit much of a reaction either way, but after the intense honesty of "Daughters" (on which he frankly discusses his daughters' misdealings with incarcerated love interests and Instagram'd condoms) and the verse that closes "World's an Addiction" (detailing a doctor struggling to operate on his patients rather than finish a plot to murder his adulterous ex-wife) it's just a bafflingly out of place club jam. It doesn't suit the album anyway, but especially not there.

Other than "Summer on Smash", however, those failures are mostly minor and don't have much to do with Nas (or even the production) so much as one's personal taste. Someone somewhere is going to love those songs. The important thing is that Nas fails to mail a verse in even once on this record. I'm not sure if he heard Elmatic while he was recording this album or what but the man is just on fire throughout the album. It's what allows him to do stuff like "Stay", a blunted little jazz rap that would feel right at home on a Curren$y or Damu the Fudgemunk release if not for Nas' admissions-via-verse to a woman and a male friend that he still wants them in his life even though he doesn't get along with them very well anymore. Or "Bye Baby", the "Goodbye Love"-sampling closer of the album proper that along with "Daughters" is probably the most honest we're ever going to hear Nas as he details his relationship with Kelis from hanging out with her and her labelmates at the Neptunes' Star Trak studios to her arrest in Miami in 2007 to their divorce in 2009. Perhaps most notable about the track isn't the honesty but the compassion Nas still has for Kelis - "Kim" this track certainly isn't. Just as Nas seems to be in a rather excellent place musically, as he nears 40 he seems to be admirably content with his lot in life as well. He might lament his daughters' actions and his ex-wife's ex-wifeness, but combined with tracks like "You Wouldn't Understand" and "The Don" that have Nas explaining what he's proud of accomplishing and "Cherry Wine" (an Amy Winehouse duet that serves as an all too apt reminder of the incredible talent we lost last year) revealing his eagerness to find a woman more in line with his own tastes and values, Nas really seems more assured of himself as an artist and person than he has perhaps ever.

If you're willing to buy that, then the Deluxe Edition is surely the iteration of Life Is Good you'll want to hunt down. Not only does it have "Nasty" on it, but "The Black Bond" on which Nas imagines himself as a sort of James Bond figure sans MI6 night job and the "Roses"/"Where's the Love" duo, where Nas gets a little more mopey over the divorce than the album proper. Mostly these tracks serve to further erase the existence of "Summer on Smash" from memory banks, but they're really quite interesting in their own right and could have easily replaced any of that six through eight run, "No Introduction" or "Accident Murderers" if Nas allowed them to. But truthfully "Summer on Smash" is the one dud, the one unexciting in any way moment of the 71 minutes and eighteen tracks included on the Deluxe Edition, an incredible feat not just for Nas in 2012 but for a hip-hop release in any decade. Of course it's far too early to claim Life Is Good is Nas' best album since It Was Written, but this sort of grown man rap that's usually relegated to the obscure careers of men like Kam Moye is exceptionally refreshing to hear coming from Nas, especially as peers like Jay-Z and Cormega mostly continue to spin their wheels on the same track. To describe Life Is Good most simply, it's the first Nas album in a decade that can be recommended without any sort of disclaimer, any sort of "this album is good, but for Nas...?" And that's tremendously exciting both today and for Nas' future records. Hip-hop is vibrant as ever in 2012, and Life Is Good proves to be a major example of why.


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258. "oh also i love summer on smash #fuckwhatyouheard"
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259. "3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?"
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favorite:

daughters
you wouldnt understand
back when


worst:

no introduction
a queens story
the black bond

  

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260. "you're joking right?"
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>worst:
>
>no introduction
>a queens story
>the black bond

  

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261. "whats your 3 worst?"
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>>worst:
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>>no introduction
>>a queens story
>>the black bond
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i always skip these tracks

  

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262. "you're crazy. especially with "queens story""
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the only song i don't rock with is "summer on smash." everything else is good to great.

  

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277. "RE: 3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?"
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3 fav: stay, queen's story, loco-motive

3 least favorite: summer on smash, reach out, cherry wine

not gonna say worst cuz I don't hate any, even summer on smash grew on me

  

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343. "RE: 3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?"
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Favorite:
- You Wouldn't Understand
- Daughters
- Back When

Least Favorite:
- Summer On Smash (Would be much better without Miguel and Swizz "REPEAT REPEAT PHRASE! REPEAT PHRASE!" Beatz.)
- Reach Out (Not bad, but a little too heavy on the throwback vibe.)
- World's An Addiction (I don't dislike this song, but I'm a little annoyed at how the beat feels like it's building up to something that never comes. If you divide the album in two, this actually makes a good side-b intro track.)


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396. "RE: 3 FAVORITE AND WORST SONGS?"
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Favorites

Stay. This song is beautiful, seriously, the simple way he puts the contradictions on point but just admits that sometimes you have to accept something being wrong because you don't know or can't see any other way? whew!

Daughters. That beat is crazy, I want a remix with other father mc's, that could be cool.

Cherry Wine. I love Amy, and I love guitar. Just a nice song.

Least Favorites

no worst lol

Accident Murderers. I like the message he trying to get across but this isn't a song I keep on repeat like "back when" or "you don't understand"

Loco-motive. Just another one that I like but don't go back to like those above.

No Introduction. Same as the other two, he getting it in but it doesn't get me stuck like some other songs.

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548. "After a week:"
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Favorite: Loco-Motive, A Queens Story, Stay

Least favorite: Accident Murderers, World's an Addiction, Summer on Smash

(Those bonus cuts are definitely tough.)

Oh yeah, and great avi.

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267. "several days later..."
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Still have it on repeat. Messed with the sequencing a lot. (been meaning to post on the listener's ability to do that in general.) I've warmed to "summer on smash" and "where's the love" and cooled on "the world's an addiction", last verse notwithstanding.

No intro
The don
Summer on smash
Back when
Loco-motive
A queens story
Accident murderers
Roses
Daughters
Reach out
Where's the love
You wouldn't understand
Stay
Cherry wine
Bye baby

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273. "I went as far as cutting out songs"
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http://d.pr/i/19sw

Had to trim the fat. Got it down to 39 minutes and 10 tracks with some serious sequence changes. Cherry Wine going into You Wouldn't Believe is better than you could ever imagine. His second best album now lives in my iTunes.

And yo, is there a singing verse cut out of You Wouldn't Believe? The awkward fade at the end seems to cut into a verse. Could have very much had the same vibe as Elzhi's Life's a Bitch with dude from Mint Condition doing his thing at the end. Shame if that's the case, but I don't know what the sample is, so perhaps it's from the original song?

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274. "nah, that "you and I" is from the original song "
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The sample is Miles Jaye - Let's Start Love Over

  

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275. "Ah, thanks"
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276. "top 3 chop nominees: No Intro (JusticeLeague overdid it, OD'd on 'epic')"
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Accident Murderers (song annoys the fuck outta me) and the Swizz joint (doesn't really fit & although Nas is spittin on it I could take or leave it).

  

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494. "Funny you say that..."
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I disagree - I thought J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League played down their usual epic sound, and that "No Introduction" was was a lot more elaborate than their music for acts like Ross.

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526. "it was elaborately overdramatic or even maudlinly epic"
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shit has me thinking about skipping to Loco-Motive before it's over when I play the album at this point.

  

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269. "The haters are late"
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(checks watch) Doesn't the hate on the new Nas album usually start riiiiight about......now.

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270. "We have to wait till Guiness' antidepressants wear off"
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Dude is near suicide over the excellence of this
album

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278. "THIS IS SO DOPE"
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SO DOPE

EXCEPT FOR SUMMER ON SMASH.....FUCK THAT HOOK

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279. "i think the sequencing is very problematic"
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and it has at LEAST 3 duds imo.
this swizz beats song was probably the most offensive.
my issue is that the album can't seem to decide whether it wants to be a "here, my dear" or a vintage nas w/street anthems record.

it is possible to do both, but it has to be sequenced properly. imo, it fails in that respect.
the good songs are really good.
...the other songs may not be terrible, but i have no intention to ever hear them again.

i do agree that he is lyrically sharp as ever.
i just wish the album was structered differently.

album gets 7/10 imo.
as a point of reference, i'd personally give Illmatic a 9.5/10.

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282. "I'm not getting the Hear, My Dear comparisons"
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Outside of Bye Baby, there's nothing really touching on his relationship with Kelis.

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330. "doesn't he address the album to her in the very first track?"
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and then the obvious bye baby
and Rose near the end.
and of course the album cover?

at the very least, there appear to be a few veiled (no pun intended) references to his ex wife.

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284. "yeah, it's buggin me too"
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>and it has at LEAST 3 duds imo.
>this swizz beats song was probably the most offensive.
>my issue is that the album can't seem to decide whether it
>wants to be a "here, my dear" or a vintage nas w/street
>anthems record.

I had the same reaction. Not really seeing the "Here, My Dear" comparisons.
>
>it is possible to do both, but it has to be sequenced
>properly. imo, it fails in that respect.
>the good songs are really good.
>...the other songs may not be terrible, but i have no
>intention to ever hear them again.
>
>i do agree that he is lyrically sharp as ever.
>i just wish the album was structered differently.
>
>album gets 7/10 imo.
>as a point of reference, i'd personally give Illmatic a
>9.5/10.

A few spins into Life Is Good. There's some great music on it but as far replay value its kinda feeling like Common's The Dreamer/The Believer. Weird.

It's got singles, good production, storytelling Nas and yet I'm not compelled to keep listening after one or two spins.

Maybe I just don't like No I.D. for a full album? That could be it.

I think there is something to be said about track sequencing.

It's crucial to replay value and this album is missing something.




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281. "Anyone have a problem with the fact the kicks do not knock?"
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This is a question for audio engineers. The kicks on most of the songs have little to no knock to them. Not a hating question...

  

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283. "The mixing wasn't good on this album"
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I thought it was just the leaks that sounded bland until I got the cd over the weekend and it didn't sound any better. That's really the only negative I have with the album.

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286. "Lyrically, this is one of the hungriest albums ever made"
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This nigga here, y'all

I can't believe this shit

Dude is blanking the fuck out

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287. "Third best in the discog, still a 4/5 tho"
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...meaning that all his other albums were, at best, 3.5/5

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288. "would agree outside of Lost Tapes (if u count it) & Stillmatic."
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those are 4/5 to me.

  

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303. "You could make an argument for Stillmtic"
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I just don't agree. And I don't count lost tapes.

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289. "FFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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This is the one man.

I'm a diehard Nas fan, that has been both equally critical and defensive of.

I never accept the praise for Untitled. Thought it was half-assed.

This is finally the album we've been waiting Nas to make for a very long time.

Dope.

  

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290. "still ain't fckin with R.A.P. Music though"
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493. "lol very true."
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291. "RE: Nas "Life Is Good" discussion"
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...A little late...but from what I have heard, flames...

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292. "i've been super critical of nas over the years, but this shit right here..."
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beautiful. save for that swizz track, this shit is greatness

  

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Brew
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300. "The more I think about it ..."
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the angrier I am that Summer on Trash made the album. It literally is the one major blemish on an otherwise excellent album. Each song is either great or at least very good, and has some redeeming quality. Summer on Trash has not a one.

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201cue
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305. "Except it'll go hard in the club at 1:30am"
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With a Ketel one and cranberry in hand. I eagerly look forward to it.

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306. "Haha - you're probably right..."
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but that's not what I look for out of Nas. Or a full, cohesive album from anyone in general.

I look for that out of mixtape rappers, and shit.

Call me old fashioned but it bothers me when an otherwise cohesive album which for the most part follows a continuous theme, is broken up by some weak, soft, rushed attempt at a "club hit". Nas has never been good at being a club rapper, so it makes me mad when he tries, ESPECIALLY now that he's dropped his best album in a decade and broke it up with that BS.

Maybe it'll grow on me. But I don't think so. It strikes me as the type of song that'll probly crush the club for a month/the rest of the summer, then be forgotten, at which point even the people that like it now will say "that shit's old and don't fit that album"

Clearly just my opinion but that's where I'm at about it.

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Stadiq
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352. "at most, should have been a bonus track..."
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369. "If I were drunk, it'd sound like even more of a mess"
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I'd Jersey Shore Ronnie through that bitch looking for a way out


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492. "lol I don't even hate the record that much..."
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But it's definitely like "That Nigga Jigga" on Blueprint. Just, "Why the fuck are you here?"

As someone else said, there were other songs that could've been singles and worked out fine for the sincere approach Nas has on the album.

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293. "I went with the deluxe w/ shirt cuz I'm a sucka"
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I'm hoping for an XL, it didn't say, although I bet it's a large lol.


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294. "RE: I went with the deluxe w/ shirt cuz I'm a sucka"
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Send the large my way

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308. "they're all XL"
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icecold21
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295. "Best rapper alive"
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The GOAT's best album since Stillmatic

shit was overdue though

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296. "For the love of god, this is a beautiful record. "
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Just wow.

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298. "First listen...pretty damn good"
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Summer on Smash kinda hurt my ears. But I can tolerate it. Only misstep on a really great piece of work.

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299. "Lunch break, suited up, drove to Best Buy, copped the deluxe CD and ..."
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lil man working there couldn't believe I asked about the NAS CD. He was spazzing about how nice it was and that I made a great choice ...

FOH fam! Because I have on a suit, 30+ yrs of age & wearing hard-bottoms he sized me up like I was buying this as a surprise for my son or sumthin'

Needless to say, I can't get enough of Life Is Good ... almost had to pull over on Queens Story ...

Best album I've heard in a longggggggggggggggggggg time.

That is all.

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301. "Fuck that kid..."
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>lil man working there couldn't believe I asked about the NAS
>CD. He was spazzing about how nice it was and that I made a
>great choice ...
>
>FOH fam! Because I have on a suit, 30+ yrs of age & wearing
>hard-bottoms he sized me up like I was buying this as a
>surprise for my son or sumthin'

Nas is from OUR generation. You shoulda given HIM the side-eye for raving about the album.



Nah but in all seriousness I'm glad even the younger generation is getting a good dose of Nasir.

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304. "dogg, I looked like someone's dad at the checkout counter buying this"
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I feel like this was the first time in a long time a "mainstream" album was worth the hype

  

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302. "I didn't listen to/download shit. I bought this CD at Target."
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Deluxe edition. first Nas album I've actually bought in a long time as well.

and I have to say, as far as fully-realized albums? this is the best shit Nas has dropped since IT WAS WRITTEN. I've been rather forgiving of Nas's releases since then, EXCEPT I AM... and NASTRADAMUS, and possibly HIP HOP IS DEAD. now I realize all that shit was pretty mediocre in comparison.

this is contemporary, but not trendy. Nas stumbles a bit with his delivery on some tracks, but sounds as sharp as any over-35 year old rapper I've ever heard. Nas for the first time in what seems like an age, seems locked in to each and every song, very much focused.

Nas sounds like "himself". No attempts to adopt "modern" flows, no attempts to water down his style, no attempts to be versatile. This is Nas, unfiltered. He says Kelis's name numerous times, he fucks up analogies, he fucks up phrases, he puts his strengths and his flaws on full display. The beats don't sound like that much of reaches, even though my sticking point on that "Swizz" song is all that bullshit "bitches" crap before the song starts. Even the bonus tracks sound like some shit Nas would record on his lonesome.

This is a long time coming. Nas was slowly building up good faith between UNTITLED and this, with the NIGGER TAPE, his appearances on albums like Wayne's THE CARTER IV, his own collaboration with Damien Marley, his own entry on Behind The Music, and the songs and videos from this album he leaked/released to the public.

I'm sure people will blow this up to 5 mics, and I won't even be mad. Fuck all the comparison to other rappers... this is who Nas is. A perfect bookend to a rather rocky and tumultuous career. If Nas never released another album, you can say that his life... was good.

  

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360. "^^Well said"
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307. "http://i40.tinypic.com/2mrayv5.jpg"
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http://i40.tinypic.com/2mrayv5.jpg

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310. "Hahahahaha. This cracked me up."
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Well done.

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311. "about that Drake writing credit"
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I could believe that 40 and Drake created the hook together

Just imagine Drake finishing a verse and then singing(autotuning) "Bye Baby - Bye Bye Baby"

not saying thats what I believe happened
but its the most sense I can make out of the credits

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331. "he didn't get a writing credit"
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That was a typo on the Wikipedia entry. It's been corrected.

My guess is that someone copied and pasted writing credits from other songs once the track list and producers leaked.


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312. "4/10"
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Is the rating that Anthony Fantano just gave this album. So by his logic Mac Miller's debut album is better than Life is Good... Riiiiiiiiiight.

  

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314. "Uhhh...yea."
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I won't even justify that with a read/website hit.

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rymega
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317. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42RML92tDyQ"
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Boo this man!

  

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321. "who?"
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lol most reviews I've seen are around 8/10 which is prob what I'd give it, some higher, xxl gave it an xxl

still waiting on pitchfork's 3.5 out of 10, since don't see how they can rate it lower than untitled's 2.8

  

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370. "Needle Drop is 'relevant' because of his kinetic video style"
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outside of random indie rock albums, he's usually bringing his 'knowledge' from a variety of established sources and then using them to explain why he does or doesn't like something.


To me it was cool for a minute but when I watched him venturing outside of his actual comfort zone, and asked around a little, I decided that he's great at video review production but what he's saying actually isn't all that important. It's just the best 'scene' he could figure out how to write, or so it feels.


Appreciate his hustle, though. His reviews get posted and talked about all over the internet after, what, two years or less on the grind?

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404. "some times I really agree with his point of view"
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or at least can respect where he's coming from. He's been harsh on a lot of my favorite albums, the Nas review is the first one in a while where I was just like "ok now your just being a hater, the beat on loco-motive is absolutely perfect, what the fuck are you even saying".

He also has turned me on to a lot of my favorite music in the past year or so, and I make it a point to watch most of his videos, but never let his opinion overrule my own.

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491. "LOLLOL at this reply, so true though"
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>or at least can respect where he's coming from. He's been
>harsh on a lot of my favorite albums, the Nas review is the
>first one in a while where I was just like "ok now your just
>being a hater, the beat on loco-motive is absolutely perfect,
>what the fuck are you even saying".
>

lmao "ok now your just being a hater, the beat on loco-motive is absolutely perfect, what the fuck are you even saying."

Yeah, I definitely disagree with the entire review. I usually either agree, or respect where he's coming from, like you said.

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384. "white hipster"
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313. "Big Nas fan, but..."
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so much of this album is look at my cars, chicks, the fact I made illmatic, miscellaneous bragging that comes off like a lyrical version of Nas's post-divorce sweet 16 party.

I suppose my expectations were way too high after hearing "Loco-Motive."

Either way, bought it to support the main man.

  

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315. "Wow..."
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Did you take in any of the lyrical content at all? That's a serious question, too. Cause, well for one I don't recall him mentioning Illmatic once. Like, not even a subtle mention. But I've only listened through twice so maybe I'm the one who didn't take it in.

But other than that, sure he brought up money a lot but ... he also talked about his divorce, his daughter, the streets (as always), his career as a whole, lost love, trying to find new love, locked up friends, his upbringing, the *perils* of the fast life...I mean, a million different things.

I dunno. Your opinion I guess. I just thought that was an odd criticism.

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320. "RE: Wow..."
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he doesn't mention it by name but plenty of references from dudes he shouted out on his first shit, drawers, big slate, jerome's niece who got shot in the dome piece. I thought that was really dope tho that he still has that on his mind all these years later.

  

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322. "RE: Wow..."
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Oh ok sure ---- but repping friend's nieces who died and people he shouted out on Illmatic is far different than saying "I'm the dude that made Illmatic" haha.

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351. "Dont get me wrong..."
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I still liked the album, but I had a perverse level of expectations after hearing "Loco-Motive." I was a bit more negative than I meant to be, I was just saying it's not as GREAT to me. I prefer the Oddisee album currently. The discussion of his fatherhood, NYC, etc. were all on the leaked tracks. I thought it'd be on that level, but then all of a sudden MY SUMMER IS ON SMASH.

I did chuckle out loud when he called himself an "ass magnet" on "Roses" however.

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Brew
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353. "Word..."
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For the record I wasn't really reacting to your lukewarm feelings about the album in general, everyone has their opinions.

I was more shocked about your SPECIFIC criticisms, being the lack of diverse subject matter which I think is just off base.

If you don't like it, that's what it is, no one can challenge your opinion. But to say he only covered minimal subject matter on this album is just misinformed. That's all I was saying.

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371. "this is why I don't get listening to leaks"
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if you're going to come to the full album saying "well, I already heard that, so it's not a positive anymore"


...if you KNOW that's your mentality, why do it? Why listen? I hadn't heard any of the tracks other than "Nasty", which was a few times last summer and honestly I enjoy it a lot more now than I did then when I was just watching a Youtube video while playing NBA 2K.

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"Yeah"


          

Im not discounting the subject matter from the leaks I heard, I just had an expectation that the rest of the album would be as diverse and thought-provoking.

I suppose a few tracks are just sticking out a bit more like sore thumbs for me. Overall, an enjoyable record.

"I'm an Ass Magnet" needs to be chopped and screwed for another rap track though.

  

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375. "Yeah"
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Im not discounting the subject matter from the leaks I heard, I just had an expectation that the rest of the album would be as diverse and thought-provoking.

I suppose a few tracks are just sticking out a bit more like sore thumbs for me. Overall, an enjoyable record.

"I'm an Ass Magnet" needs to be chopped and screwed for another rap track though.

  

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316. "Holy hell @ the 2nd verse on "Back When""
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Wow.

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318. "only three I see repeat probs with"
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Okay, really, Nas has quite possibly the last posthumous contribution from Amy, like, how crazy is that.

I think the unanimous missteps are "summer on smash", "worlds an addiction", and "reach out" and yall can argue about the rest cuz I like those lol

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319. "I agree with Summer on Smash..."
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I could do without Reach Out but I think it fits the album for the most part...it's just not GREAT.

World's An Addiction I really like but it's probly my third least favorite on the album, as well.

But yea, only one that REALLY deserves cutting IMO is Summer on Smash.

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344. "It's just a horrible combo..."
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It's somehow less than the sum of its parts. That two song sequence is a complete buzz kill. The album recovers nicely but it's just so frustrating that Nas would include those songs, especially when you consider how good the "bonus" songs are.

  

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328. "only song i don't roll w/ is "World's An Addiction"..."
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only cuz it doesn't fit w/ the mood of the rest of the album to me.

but lyrically, its good.

Summer On Smash grew on me...i don't LOVE it but i can listen to it.

Reach Out??? Any QB cat rapping over that Isaac Hayes gets the W from me. Plus, Nas is rapping his ASS off on that: could see myself at presidential campaign dinners/but i'm passing blunts around a buncha gang members/when you're too hood to be in them hollywood circles/but you're too rich to be in the hood that birthed you/and you become better than legends you thought were the greatest/and outgrow women you loved and thought you would stay with/life become clearer when you wipe down your mirror/and leave notes around for yourself to remember........................FIRE

  

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329. "PREACH..."
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>Reach Out??? Any QB cat rapping over that Isaac Hayes gets the
>W from me. Plus, Nas is rapping his ASS off on that: could
>see myself at presidential campaign dinners/but i'm passing
>blunts around a buncha gang members/when you're too hood to be
>in them hollywood circles/but you're too rich to be in the
>hood that birthed you/and you become better than legends you
>thought were the greatest/and outgrow women you loved and
>thought you would stay with/life become clearer when you wipe
>down your mirror/and leave notes around for yourself to
>remember........................FIRE

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339. "Like others, I love Reach Out"
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Hard drums, and that piano sample will never not sound dope to me....and Nas killed it. Mary brought it too IMO. Plus there's even some scratching on it? I like everything about it.

World's An Addiction, I can see. I'm usually not a fan of rap songs without drums. But Nas rapped so well on it. I gotta be in the mood for it though.

Summer on Smash....I definitely get the criticism. I don't hate it though.

  

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324. ""
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Tue Jul-17-12 09:22 PM by Anonymous

  

          

I've been in the Bahamas soaking up the sun and this album (along with Aesop and Oddisee which are both great).

I'm just going to give my quick run down of this shit son,

No Introduction - is cool and definitely doesn't get the skip, but I would've thrown Nasty right at number 1 and just went in from there. "Are y'all ready for Nas? Queensbridge are y'all ready for Nasty Nas?" That's all the introduction needed.

Loco-Motive - this is a dope ass track and is probably the reason Nasty is a bonus because both are similar but fuck it, Nas is at his finest over tracks like these. If Nasty was track 1, I would've just bumped Loco to either 3, or bounced it to start off side B.

A Queens Story - again, Nas at his best. Absolutely destroys this up-tempo joint. half introspective/half storyno one does that style better. and that break "and y'all know how the story goes" with the scratching is the shit that I miss about hip-hop.

Accident Murderers - The beat is dope, Nas kills it, Ross is off topic but still fits in, but the slight fuck up on the title and hook does bother me. I don't skip it, but that shit get the head shake every time. Not to mention, the only guest MC on this shit should have been AZ period. That right there would've just psychologically put this album on another level for us "trapped in the 90s."

Daughter - great beat. great lyrics. effective hook. great song period.

Reach Out - Don't know what some of you are talking about, I fucking love this joint. Mary's vocals are on point. The vibe is great. Nas kills these verses. This is how I like my "commercial hip-hop." true to the art form and just makes you feel good.

World's An Addiction - I don't like this as much as I expected to. When I hear Nas is making an album inspired by Here, My Dear and has a track featuring Anthony Hamilton, I think of some Charlene Pt 2 type of shit. But I'll be damned if Nas doesn't kill that 3rd verse. One of the best on the album to the point, I would've been ok if that was the only verse on the song.

Summer's On Smash - This joint grew on me. As someone who hates Swizz and also hates that Miguel part, I just like the vibe of the song and Nas sounds great on this. Again, the verses are killed and it's good to hear Nas having fun on this. They need to release this as a single ASAP. It is however, the worst song on the album and I understand the hate. Swizz has a way of getting me at times like Bring Em Out, On To The Next, and this.

You Wouldn't Understand - Not sure why people think this doesn't sound like Buckwild. This sounds just like his more r&b joints for OC, Mary J, Bad Boy fam, Royal Flush etc. and I fucking love this shit right here. Nas sounds right at home on this beat.

Back When - As someone said above, this is one of the best joint of all-time. I'm not going to declare this Shook Ones or CREAM or TROY status or anything like that, but this is perfect hip-hop right here. This is the type of joint that you could play for aliens when they ask what hip-hop is. And Nas continues his perfection on the mic on this joint as well.

The Don - Loved it when it dropped, love it now. Just a dope club joint and Nas destroys this shit.

Stay - Beautiful joint. What more is there to be said. One of the top 3 songs on the album.

Cherry Wine - This needs to get the video treatment right now. I can see this catching as Amy's return and getting some grammy nods. This songs is beautiful and is perfectly executed.

Bye Baby - Another lovely joint and a great way to close the album out.

Nasty - You already know.

The Black Bond - How could you not like this?

Roses - should be on the official album.

Where's the Love - this should be the only bonus joint.

I could definitely do some re-sequencing to this album and I wouldn't be mad if people wanted to kick off Summer On Smash and No Introduction and add in Nasty, The Black Bond, and Roses.

I'll say it again, that collabo with Damian at that point in Nas' life was the best thing for him. This guy has been on a war path since the divorce and is easily proving why he is the greatest to ever do it.

Nas at his best = the best period.

  

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325. "Yeah I guess it kinda reminds me of OC's "Far From Yours""
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>You Wouldn't Understand - Not sure why people think this
>doesn't sound like Buckwild. This sounds just like his more
>r&b joints for OC, Mary J, Bad Boy fam, Royal Flush etc. and
>I fucking love this shit right here. Nas sounds right at home
>on this beat.

  

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326. "I can't think of the song but"
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there's a joint on Ghetto Millionaire that it reminds me of.

  

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345. "RE: I can't think of the song but"
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it kinda sounds like "I Been Gettin' So Much $" which Buck later gave to O.C. for "Burn Me Slow"...

either way, Ghetto Millionaire is too slept-on. "Family Problems" is too ill.

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332. ""
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>I've been in the Bahamas soaking up the sun and this album
>(along with Aesop and Oddisee which are both great).
>
>I'm just going to give my quick run down of this shit son,
>
>No Introduction - is cool and definitely doesn't get the skip,
>but I would've thrown Nasty right at number 1 and just went in
>from there. "Are y'all ready for Nas? Queensbridge are y'all
>ready for Nasty Nas?" That's all the introduction needed.
>
>Loco-Motive - this is a dope ass track and is probably the
>reason Nasty is a bonus because both are similar but fuck it,
>Nas is at his finest over tracks like these. If Nasty was
>track 1, I would've just bumped Loco to either 3, or bounced
>it to start off side B.
>
>A Queens Story - again, Nas at his best. Absolutely destroys
>this up-tempo joint. half introspective/half storyno one
>does that style better. and that break "and y'all know how
>the story goes" with the scratching is the shit that I miss
>about hip-hop.
>
>Accident Murderers - The beat is dope, Nas kills it, Ross is
>off topic but still fits in, but the slight fuck up on the
>title and hook does bother me. I don't skip it, but that shit
>get the head shake every time. Not to mention, the only guest
>MC on this shit should have been AZ period. That right there
>would've just psychologically put this album on another level
>for us "trapped in the 90s."
>
>Daughter - great beat. great lyrics. effective hook. great
>song period.
>
>Reach Out - Don't know what some of you are talking about, I
>fucking love this joint. Mary's vocals are on point. The
>vibe is great. Nas kills these verses. This is how I like my
>"commercial hip-hop." true to the art form and just makes you
>feel good.
>
>World's An Addiction - I don't like this as much as I expected
>to. When I hear Nas is making an album inspired by Here, My
>Dear and has a track featuring Anthony Hamilton, I think of
>some Charlene Pt 2 type of shit. But I'll be damned if Nas
>doesn't kill that 3rd verse. One of the best on the album to
>the point, I would've been ok if that was the only verse on
>the song.
>
>Summer's On Smash - This joint grew on me. As someone who
>hates Swizz and also hates that Miguel part, I just like the
>vibe of the song and Nas sounds great on this. Again, the
>verses are killed and it's good to hear Nas having fun on
>this. They need to release this as a single ASAP. It is
>however, the worst song on the album and I understand the
>hate. Swizz has a way of getting me at times like Bring Em
>Out, On To The Next, and this.
>
>You Wouldn't Understand - Not sure why people think this
>doesn't sound like Buckwild. This sounds just like his more
>r&b joints for OC, Mary J, Bad Boy fam, Royal Flush etc. and
>I fucking love this shit right here. Nas sounds right at home
>on this beat.
>
>Back When - As someone said above, this is one of the best
>joint of all-time. I'm not going to declare this Shook Ones
>or CREAM or TROY status or anything like that, but this is
>perfect hip-hop right here. This is the type of joint that
>you could play for aliens when they ask what hip-hop is. And
>Nas continues his perfection on the mic on this joint as
>well.
>
>The Don - Loved it when it dropped, love it now. Just a dope
>club joint and Nas destroys this shit.
>
>Stay - Beautiful joint. What more is there to be said. One
>of the top 3 songs on the album.
>
>Cherry Wine - This needs to get the video treatment right now.
> I can see this catching as Amy's return and getting some
>grammy nods. This songs is beautiful and is perfectly
>executed.
>
>Bye Baby - Another lovely joint and a great way to close the
>album out.
>
>Nasty - You already know.
>
>The Black Bond - How could you not like this?
>
>Roses - should be on the official album.
>
>Where's the Love - this should be the only bonus joint.
>
>I could definitely do some re-sequencing to this album and I
>wouldn't be mad if people wanted to kick off Summer On Smash
>and No Introduction and add in Nasty, The Black Bond, and
>Roses.
>
>I'll say it again, that collabo with Damian at that point in
>Nas' life was the best thing for him. This guy has been on a
>war path since the divorce and is easily proving why he is the
>greatest to ever do it.
>
>Nas at his best = the best period.



I agree with re-sequencing this joint. It's straight heat by itself. I think he's either finally learning how to pick beats or he keeps people with him to help with that. With only the Mary and Swizz Beats joints that are woefully out of place. But, IMHO I think the album should have been.

No Introduction
Loco-Motive
A Queens Story
Accident Murderers
Nasty
The Don
Where's The Love
World's An Addiction
You Wouldn't Understand
Back When
Daughters
Stay
Trust
Roses
Cherry Wine
Bye Baby

Everything else can be bonus cuts on a separate disc. I think what would have given him another outerworldly classic (like his debut) is if he focus on his life in more detail. Think about it; tax troubles, divorce, etc. More introspective songs executed properly instead of the ballin'/bling/brag/boxcutter raps would have made this album actually comparable to Hear My Dear.

That would have been awesome.

Well, enuff of my wishful whining. The brother made a great album and I hope it goes diamond.


Last thing is it just me or did the songs when leaked sound like they weren't final mixes. Songs that I didn't like (Loco-Motive &
Accident Murderers) are straight bangin' now that I got the CD. Which is a smart move because you can let people hear the music but they still get a treat once they go cop the CD.

I think I'm being downsized.
All of the job functions that I was hired for are done overseas. And my managers aren't including me in group e-mails. Also, I haven't received my paycheck in the last month and a half.

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333. "Too stellar"
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"Summer on Smash" is the only blatant flaw for me right now and not even so much that I hate the song itself, it just sounds real out of place.

"Reach Out" is ok. Kinda on the fence with it.

And I agree that the sequencing seems a little off.

But with nitpicking aside, c'mon man. This is so blatantly a high-quality effort from Nas and my initial thoughts would have this as his 3rd best album (after "Illmatic" and "It Was Written").

Some of these joints I have no problem calling some of his absolute best songs ever:

Stay
Bye Baby
Back When
Nasty
Daughters
Cherry Wine
Where's the Love (I can't BELIEVE more than a few folks are saying they could do without this?!!? I love the beat and how layered it is. Listen to this with headphones on, there's a lot going on. And I have no problem with the hook. Pffft I'll even say I love it)



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334. "RE: Too stellar"
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>Where's the Love (I can't BELIEVE more than a few folks are
>saying they could do without this?!!? I love the beat and how
>layered it is. Listen to this with headphones on, there's a
>lot going on. And I have no problem with the hook. Pffft I'll
>even say I love it)


Nas goes in on that song as well. That second verse is serious.

  

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336. "''You Wouldn't Understand'' is quickly becoming one of my favorites, too"
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Liked it well enough the first time through, but now I'm loving it! I was driving home as the sun was going down out here in Phoenix and it just clicked.


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355. "did you notice the Brooklyn Queens break by 3rd Bass on Where's The Love..."
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I was geeked off that one...I really dig that joint. I would've had that one on instead of the swizzy one


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366. "I did, which is also part of the appeal"
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337. "great album"
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I dont even mind Summer on Smash. The intro to that song annoys me, and I hit skip after Nas' verses are done. But it's ok.

Putting World's An Addiction and Summer on Smash back to back doesn't make much sense.

And I don't like the hook on Roses.

Those are my only negatives. Nas is killing it, he's been in an absolute zone, the production is good-great throughout, subject matter/content is on point.

Some of Nas' best songs ever are on this. The closing of the album, from You wouldn't Understand to Bye Baby is just a classic run of songs. Been playing it nonstop since it leaked, went and bought it today.....that doesn't happen often with me these days.

  

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338. "Y'all stop frontin' on "Summer On Smash" lol."
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Stop the madness for real, it's not a bad joint in and of itself, but it sounds out of place as fuck on here. I can rock with it, and I used to hate Swizzy like everybody else here.

As for the rest of the album, I put it 3rd behind illmatic and IWW.

As for Nasir, I have consistently said here, he is the walking, living G.O.A.T. MC.

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340. "If you don't like Summer On Smash you lying to yourself "
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No other way around it.......

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341. "nah b, that shit sucks straight up."
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I gave it a few listens, I ain't mad at it but I definitely don't think good of it.
Give me a Large Professor verse/production instead.

>No other way around it.......
yes there is, its the fast forward/skip button.

I like the album a lot though.

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347. "Production is excellent, good verses"
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Hook doesn't ruin it. It's the weakest on the cd because of the wack singer, take him off and it's a 7.5/10.

  

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348. "yes swizzy* ruins it for me, not Miguel."
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*fixed*
>the wack producer, take him off.




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350. "Its the cursing from Miguel, the Ciroc mentions, etc that ..."
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doesn't fit w/the overall album theme and seems forced even though NAS delivers lyrically ... I agree that the production is good. Could be a simple as the sequencing of the album, then again, not sure where it would have fit well other than a bonus cut.

Still, if a cleaner version is released as a single, it could be BIG.

Not a big Swizz fan anyway - he's irritating, like a rock in my shoe when I'm walking with my woman.

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367. "That's exactly what I thought"
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>not sure where it would have fit well other than a
>bonus cut.

^

>Still, if a cleaner version is released as a single, it could
>be BIG.

Agreed.


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349. "its prob my least fav, but I can live with it"
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I mean, if this is the only real dud on the album, its really not that bad at all.
I can live with this being the 1 track Nas tyrin' to get on the radio later this summer.
Compared to album tracks of past Nas albums, its fine.

  

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364. "SoS is out of place but is NOT a BAD song. That's where niggas is wrong...."
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Its not BAD by any stretch

The beat is cool and the verses are dope

When THAT is the worst song on an album,
that's the sign of a hip-hop classic

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I don't know about any classics with a song THIS bad

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538. "RE: SoS is out of place but is NOT a BAD song. That's where niggas is wr..."
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>
>Its not BAD by any stretch
>
>The beat is cool and the verses are dope
>
>When THAT is the worst song on an album,
>that's the sign of a hip-hop classic
>


as much as it pains me to say this, i concur. in and of itself it's not a bad track at all and i look forward to hearing it played loudly it whilst inebriated.

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354. "the best thing about this album to me"
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is the absence of the bitterness you felt on albums such as God's Son and maybe some others... it's like Nas really is in a "good" place in his life. it doesn't make him any less gritty, but it seems like he's come full circle.

even when breaking down his failed marriage, Nas speaks as if he has no regrets at all.

  

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356. "Where was he bitter on God's Son?"
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For the record I'm in the "God's Son is hella underrated" camp. I feel that God's Son was his most personal record until just now when Life Is Good dropped. But I didn't really feel much bitterness outside of the "Last Real N*gga Alive" stuff in which he was just re-telling his story about the JayZ beef. Otherwise, he seemed to be sad his moms was gone but I never got a "bitter" vibe.

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359. "not really there"
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>For the record I'm in the "God's Son is hella underrated"
>camp. I feel that God's Son was his most personal record until
>just now when Life Is Good dropped. But I didn't really feel
>much bitterness outside of the "Last Real N*gga Alive" stuff
>in which he was just re-telling his story about the JayZ beef.
>Otherwise, he seemed to be sad his moms was gone but I never
>got a "bitter" vibe.

actually on THAT song I thought he was rather calm and composed. I felt like he was MAD on "The Cross". ditto for "Zone Out" (which was hilarious, though). it also reminded me that I missed "Salute Me" on that song.

now that I think about it...both God's Son and this record are very much flip sides of the same coin. Nas felt like he had lost everything on "God's Son", this album, he had damn near lost everything, but is good at where he is in life.

  

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361. "Yea I agree..."
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>actually on THAT song I thought he was rather calm and
>composed.

Me too, that's kinda what I was saying but that was the only song I would think he *would* have sounded bitter on.


>I felt like he was MAD on "The Cross".
>ditto for
>"Zone Out" (which was hilarious, though). it also reminded me
>that I missed "Salute Me" on that song.

Gotcha. I'll have to go back and listen to refresh my memory cause again, "bitterness" doesn't ring a bell but maybe my definition of "bitter" is just too strict haha. But if you have a second to pinpoint some lines, I'm definitely interested to get an idea of what you mean before I get a chance to listen.


>now that I think about it...both God's Son and this record are
>very much flip sides of the same coin. Nas felt like he had
>lost everything on "God's Son", this album, he had damn near
>lost everything, but is good at where he is in life.

This I can see. I'm just being nitpicky about the word "bitter" I suppose, but this makes perfect sense.

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363. "Just listened to The Cross..."
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you're definitely right. He sounds bitter/bothered/defensive. You can hear it in his voice, even.

I don't really feel like listening to Zone Out so I'll take your word for it since you proved your point with The Cross, haha.

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357. "Life Is Good = Hip-Hop's Here, My Dear"
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I've heard Nas say he listened to that Marvin Gaye classic alot while making this..

I can hear it, but Nas tackled the content in a hip-hop but still grown way...

I'll let it sit before I start calling it classic, but I think it's Album of the Year material off top...



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376. "I dunno... see, while that comparison is invited"
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>I've heard Nas say he listened to that Marvin Gaye classic
>alot while making this..
>
>I can hear it, but Nas tackled the content in a hip-hop but
>still grown way...

the raw emotion of "Hear My Dear" and the general, "don't give a fuck who hears it" attitude stands at odds with Nas's real mature grasp of some of this subject matter. like, the whole theme of "don't be afraid to fail, I'm not mad for loving and lost" that's all over "Bye Baby"? I still feel like in Marv's record, it's a storm of sorrow, anger, and remorse.

  

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358. "waited for the physical...this is incredible. Nas sounds HUNGRY. "
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I was worried it wouldn't live up to the hype, but damn....

I actually liked Untitled but this sh*t right here??

I could go on and on about individual songs, but you guys have pretty much said it all.


I agree the sequencing makes NO sense, but maybe eventually there I'll see beauty in the chaos (like One Day It Will All Make Sense's sequencing)


I also dont get Summer on Smash. There are tons of singles on here (maybe I'm naive), this just seems way out of place.

Both of those thoughts are nitpicking though.

Good for him...I'm happy as sh!t

  

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362. "RE: waited for the physical...this is incredible. Nas sounds HUNGRY. "
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>I agree the sequencing makes NO sense, but maybe eventually
>there I'll see beauty in the chaos (like One Day It Will All
>Make Sense's sequencing)

Agreed.


>I also dont get Summer on Smash. There are tons of singles on
>here (maybe I'm naive), this just seems way out of place.

Also agreed. I essentially said this exact same thing to my friend last nite, how both Reach Out and Cherry Wine are single material that didn't absolutely ruin the continuity of the album.

Other than SoS tho, flawless album IMO.

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380. "Yeah I'd prob do SoS and the Ross joint as bonus cuts "
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Something like this-

01 No Introduction
02 Nasty
03 Back When
04 Stay
05 Reach Out
06 Queens Story
07 Black Bond
08 Roses

09 Loco Motive
10 You Wouldnt Understand
11 Worlds an Addiction
12 Bye Baby
13 The Don
14 Wheres the Love
15 Daughters
16 Cherry Wine

Bonus tracks

Summer on Smash
Accident(AL) Murderers (an okay song, but it too seems out of place)
Trust (which I admit I havent heard yet)


Its a damn dope album when you can be THIS picky haha

  

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365. "must suck for all the people who have been defending nas over shitty bea..."
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because I don't know if they can truly appreciate how great this album is

like someone else said... nas over great beats = GOAT!

  

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368. "White hipsters' reviews...I stay vindicted"
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they are out in force tryna drag down this album.

y'all see the good reviews and read who wrote them...y'all see the bad ones and see who wrote them

THEY hate him.

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372. "*coughs*"
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http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/160990-nas-life-is-good/


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377. "They have two reviews...why?"
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Did the white hipster editorial staff dislike the positive review so much that they voted to have two reviews?

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/161018-nas-life-is-good/

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378. "RE: They have two reviews...why?"
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>Did the white hipster editorial staff dislike the positive
>review so much that they voted to have two reviews?
>
>http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/161018-nas-life-is-good/

In the comments of the (correct) positive review the writer (David) says:

Actually I couldn't remember if I was assigned the album or not and turned in a review I was never asked to write. My review is technically the superfluous one; it's truly pure coincidence one is positive and one is average.



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379. "Yet, they both count and they both are posted...funny that"
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444. "The second (linked above) was mine"
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like I said in the comments, I couldn't remember if I'd been assigned the review and I had thoughts I thought were good so I wrote them up. PopMatters will run dual reviews for some big albums if another writer tackles it. Somewhat ironically, when I ran my incredibly zealous review of MBDTF two years ago, the same writer had a counterpoint two days later (which I'd forgotten until he got dogged constantly in the comments for the Life Is Good review, someone going so far as to say I should have helped him write his MBDTF review).


Mainly, he got a lot of shit for saying "Ether" was on God's Son in the original print of his LIG review.


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451. "damn...i'll start checking for your reviews."
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thanks for the heads-up. had no idea.

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469. "thanks man. and Delajoo too."
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I'm no Murph, but maybe one day.


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474. "RE: thanks man. and Delajoo too."
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>I'm no Murph, but maybe one day.


I enjoyed the review homie...It's dopr to see someone cutting through the fog of bullshit...

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382. "RE: White hipsters' reviews...I stay vindicted"
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>they are out in force tryna drag down this album.
>
>y'all see the good reviews and read who wrote them...y'all see
>the bad ones and see who wrote them
>
>THEY hate him.

U got it all figured out man. Its a huge conspiracy of the white hipster man bringing nasir down. Its a travesty that some people dont like the record. Its great. Damn hipsters and their negative reviews. Keep ur forward thinking brah.

  

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383. "why would hipsters need to "conspire" against nas?"
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no conspiracy...just an empirically negative and downright bitter predisposition toward nas that allows anyone paying attention to predict how THEY will judge his art...as opposed to how they judge others.

the dead giveaway is when jay's name pops up in a nas review for NO REASON.

it's second nature for a white hipster critics in their 20s to early 30s to give the obligatory illmatic mention to make it appear they know what they talking about and then commence to hatin on everything after...because the lie is that pervasive (1 hot album every 10 years) and they have no real interest in rap music outside what's "hot".

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385. "RE: why would hipsters need to &amp;quot;conspire&amp;quot; against nas?"
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>no conspiracy...just an empirically negative and downright
>bitter predisposition toward nas that allows anyone paying
>attention to predict how THEY will judge his art...as opposed
>to how they judge others.
>
>the dead giveaway is when jay's name pops up in a nas review
>for NO REASON.
>
>it's second nature for a white hipster critics in their 20s to
>early 30s to give the obligatory illmatic mention to make it
>appear they know what they talking about and then commence to
>hatin on everything after...because the lie is that pervasive
>(1 hot album every 10 years) and they have no real interest in
>rap music outside what's "hot".



As a longtime journalist who has rolled in the white hipster circles, this^^^^^^^^^^^ is true....

Remember, a lot of the white hipsters have no use for black "thinking" rap...

They champion the likes of Waka Flocka Flame and Cheif Keef...When an urban artist is too "black" or too serious/personal in content, that tends to be a turn off for them...

They love their minstrel rap....They love irony......

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387. "while I agree there's something to the hipster Nas view, I don't"
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see why you say someone else brings Jay up for NO REASON when you & many others bring him up when discussing Nas most of the time.

That's been the result of that battle, that even twelve years after that battle folks are drawing the battle lines.

Jay can sometimes avoid the association because he's also associated with Kanye, Beyonce, the NBA, Mary, the Yankees, whoever but for Nas that will always be the person he's most closely compared/contrasted against.

It is what it is. Biggie/Pac, Stones/Beatles, Ali/Frazier, etc.

I'm just glad I don't feel a need to pretend either one isn't on the short list of the best to ever do it.

  

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403. "I think that's what bothers you and other jay fans...I'm NOT pretending"
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Wasn't a fan before the battle and damn sure not one after...have always maintained that he's a party rapper and excellent at marketing himself. My thoughts about dude were formed way before that battle.

and I damn sure never thought he was Nas peer lyrically

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408. "Here's the thing about the Nas/Jay dichotomy"
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I actually am a huge Jay-Z fan, but I ask anyone
to do the following:

Line up 'Life is Good' against the best songs from
'Kingdom Come' and 'Blueprint 3'. There's really no
comparison at all. Jay records are heartless and boring
for the most part, and again, I'm a fan.

I think the issue, again, is that critics and fans
feel so much *closer* to Nas. They feel personally
offended when he comes off as anything less than
genuine.

Critics and fans *expect* Jay-Z to sound insincere,
which is the only way albums like 'Kingdom Come'
or Blueprint 3 come off as anything but shitty..
...both albums are terrible, actually. Awful, in
fact.



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411. "I agree 100% and like you said. . "
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I am also a Jay fan. . but that is the difference.

Nas fails when he tries to appeal to the masses. He thrives when he's 'sincere'
and sticks to his sheer talent of being one of the great MC's and wordsmiths ever.

Jay gets applauded for being insincere, so long as it sounds fresh. And then the
rare occasion Jay does say something remotely 'heartfelt' or dare-i-say with real "substance" people get so overly giddy.

I've always been a fan of both. I think Nas has come full circle. There was definitely
a moment (early 2000's) that Jay was putting out better material. But, Nas has
come back and ultimately, at least album for album, Nas is the undisputed winner.

Jay-Z is undoubtedly a greater entertainer, but imo Nas is the greater artist.
For me that's a better look. We can argue all day, and I'm sure people will say
"but art is entertainment! etc. etc." They overlap, but imo there's a distinct difference.

As for white-hipster reviews, I think Questo has addressed this perfectly if someone
wants to dig it up. I remember the praise of Clipse was them in all their 'nihilism so long as it bumps' glory. Don't get me wrong, I like Clipse too, but you know what I'm saying.

Hipster culture in general is all about keeping a cool distance from just about everything so one can jump ship when it fades and hop on the next thing. Its a lazy culture that has everything to do with aesthetic and little to do with an association of any actual subculture. It isn't bound to anything but superficiality, and they get very threatened by people who actually have a point of view that isn't disposable. But, the thing I find most irritating about "hipsters" (and I really don't even like using that term because at this point I've decided it doesn't actually mean anything) is their intellectual laziness as well.

  

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490. "RE: Here's the thing about the Nas/Jay dichotomy"
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Why compare the lyrics from one of Nas' better albums to two of Jay's worst? I think if you were to compare some of those songs to Jay's better projects, the comparison would be different. I think he has more heart on even American Gangster and Watch The Throne, which were more recent than Kingdom Come.

I get your point, but bad comparison, IMO.

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410. "on the subjective side, we're all entitled to our own opinions"
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I personally find Tupac overrated & don't really love any Eminem albums.

But what Jay's been able to do over the course of his career in terms of consistency & at the level he's been at for approaching twenty years, is pretty much unparalleled in the history of the genre & puts him on the short list by any objective measure.

My point is one being brought up in a discussion about the other shouldn't be a surprise.

I didn't actually read the review in question to hear the context of his name being brought up but that's a common thing done by both sides.

  

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412. "Yeah, this epitomizes the bullshit about Jay-Z right here"
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>But what Jay's been able to do over the course of his career
>in terms of consistency & at the level he's been at for
>approaching twenty years, is pretty much unparalleled in the
>history of the genre & puts him on the short list by any
>objective measure.

This is the bullshit about Jay-Z. Consistency? Personally,
Reasonable Doubt, Volume 3, the Blueprint and American
Gangster make him top 10 all-time right off the bat, but
he's actually one of the laziest, most inconsistent rappers
to ever pick up a microphone and the only reason he gets
away with it is that his fan/critics tolerate things from him
that Nas fan/critics do not tolerate from Nas. Its a fact,
and I say that as a huge fan of both.

Most of what you reference is a commentary on Jay's FINANCIAL
and MARKETING sense, which Basaglia would agree with you on.
Jay made great business moves and mastered the whole executive
rapper thing. But he's made some absolutely horrific music.

'Blueprint 3', for example, was a horrendous album. As in,
horrid. Listen to 'Empire State of Mind' again. One of the
worst flows in the history of rap. Y'all let him get away
with it because the song has a great hook and was the 2009
Yankees anthem.

I mean, even Jay's "meaningful" songs like 'So Ambitious?'
LOL. Really? That song honestly sucks. Its got a hot little
Pharrell beat and is the kind of song an inner city middle
school teacher can play to their kids to make them feel good.

But its an awful song.

Nas fans/haters would SKEWER him if he rapped that shittily.
Look how mad y'all got at him for 'I Can'. He was ridiculed
for YEARS for that song and his rapping on it was probably
better than Jay's on 'So Ambitious'.

Hell, Nas fans are in here CRYING about Summer on Smash.
That song would honestly be a highlight on BP3 or Kingdom
Come. About 75% of the songs on those albums were bad.

Its true, fam:

'God's Son' got panned worse than 'BP3'. Weird, cuz
Nas' lyricism on God's Son runs circles around every Jay
album except RD, and BP1 and *maybe* AG (note how I'm the
biggest American Gangster fan in the world and have basically
ignored the 3 shitty filler songs on that album...I'd still
argue it was a masterpiece).

>My point is one being brought up in a discussion about the
>other shouldn't be a surprise.

Nah, there's no utility in comparing them. It just exposes
the critical double standard that is Nas/Jay fandom.

>I didn't actually read the review in question to hear the
>context of his name being brought up but that's a common thing
>done by both sides.


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413. "yes, as in consistently maintained a relevant rap career for two decades"
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that doesn't mean I have to vouch for 'Change Clothes' or 'Young Forever'.

  

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415. "Oh, ok. So Jay-Z's greatness has nothing to do with rapping? "
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I mean, I don't even agree with that.

And you're contradicting yourself because 2Pac's
legend and influence per unit in the rap game are
easily the largest in the history of the art form.
But you say he's "overrated?" I tutored high school
kids last summer, most of them knew more Pac lyrics
than Jay lyrics (dead serious). Dunno know if you
know this, but 'Juice' is a big cult hit among young
kids, I read several articles on this and have
witnessed it first hand.


>that doesn't mean I have to vouch for 'Change Clothes' or
>'Young Forever'.

That is literally what Basaglia is arguing: he's a great
marketer who knows how to keep his name in the press,
and his legend is just as much about Beyonce as it is
his ability to put out quality music.

So if you admit that than you pretty much concede that
your views on rappers have nothing to do with rapping.

You also have some serious issues with your criteria,
because 2Pac's influence, WHEN ALIVE, was all-time high
in the rap game. Just check record sales. He was outselling
Jay by eons at his prime (not even close, actually).


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417. "weird since I never said that at all, Jay's pretty great at rapping n/m"
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422. "Umm. You cited Jay's "consistency." "
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Problem is, Jay is not consistent, like, at all.


In fact, I'm not sure if there is another rapper in
my top 10 with albums as awful as BP2, BP3 or Kingdom
Come. All three of those albums were terrible.
As in, actually bad pieces of rap music.

Jay might be the least consistent rapper of all-time.

Nas does not have have records as bad as any of those
3. As a matter of fact, Nas has good albums ('God's Son')
that get shit on more than Jay-Z's awful albums.

I'm right. Admit it.

BP3 and Kingdom Come sold more than American
Gangster. The former two do nothing for Jay-z
legacy because they are awful albums. The
latter one does because he rapped fantastically
on it (save the handful of songs worse than
Summer on Smash that hipsters ignore).

The things that make Jay-Z unprecedented as
a relevant rapper don't have to do with rapping,
because all of his most recent rap albums suck.

And again--I'm a bigger Jay fan than you.





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423. "look, I don't care about this fake argument you're trying to have"
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or about battling invisible hipsters with you & Bags.

I don't base my musical appreciation on fighting against some critics or worrying about whether the other people enjoying the music are cool or douchebags.

I happen to think there's examples of greatness on even Jay's worst records, especially if you want to talk about from a rapping perspective.

For example in the three albums you just laid out:

Hovi Baby might be one of Jay's best lyrical performances ever. Murked the intro on Kingdom Come. Blacked out on Trouble, particularly the 3rd verse. Lost One is a classic song. BP3 starts off fine, then the Timbao & Kanye cuts No ID wasn't involved in come on.

And there's songs that add to his legacy/catalog on all of them.

So when you consider those are the biggest marks against him you can come up with for an MC who's put out about 16/17 albums of material in the past 16/17 years between solo & collab projects plus murked countless features, white-labels, remixes, etc then yeah I'd say it's pretty fair to say he's consistent.

You disagree, fine.

My original point to Bags was that it's silly to get mad at people bringing up Jay for (his words) NO REASON when we all know what the reason is and he (like many others when one or the other is the subject) does the same thing often.

  

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427. "Nah, its all relevant to the topic, doggie"
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>I happen to think there's examples of greatness on even Jay's
>worst records, especially if you want to talk about from a
>rapping perspective.

Yeah, just like Nas' worst records are loaded with golden
verses that people shit on. Its a double standard, though,
because people almost never even mention 'Project Windows'
when talking about 'Nastradamus'. All they do is shit on
'Nastradamus'.

'Blueprint 3', on the other hand, is barely mentioned
as an album. I mean, even songs like 'Run This Town'
have awful verses (listen to it again...Jay'z verses
are terrible)


>For example in the three albums you just laid out:
>
>Hovi Baby might be one of Jay's best lyrical performances
>ever. Murked the intro on Kingdom Come. Blacked out on
>Trouble, particularly the 3rd verse. Lost One is a classic
>song. BP3 starts off fine, then the Timbao & Kanye cuts No ID
>wasn't involved in come on.

So now you're nitpicking and pointing out single verses
on songs and shit....to make a point about Jay's consistency?
LOL. Listen to yourself, doggie.

Jay is not consistent. The fact that Kingdom Come has
two good songs is specifically what makes him inconsistent.

Nas got PANNED for his introspection on 'God's Son'...arties
called him "upset"...cats is in here talking about how he was
"bitter" for god's sakes.

Jay fans nutted at 'Lost Ones', when that level of introspection
is run of the mill for Nas. Like I said: Jay's greatest
gift is in keeping the expectations of his listeners low,
so when he spits 'Lost Ones (which, again, is lower-tier Nas
level introspection) y'all act like the shit is 'Beloved'.


>So when you consider those are the biggest marks against him
>you can come up with for an MC who's put out about 16/17
>albums of material in the past 16/17 years between solo &
>collab projects plus murked countless features, white-labels,
>remixes, etc then yeah I'd say it's pretty fair to say he's
>consistent.


No, its not.

Jay-Z has mostly put out bad albums since 'The Blueprint'.

He's released one good album since 'The Blueprint' and its
his LOWEST selling album: 'American Gangster' and even that
has bullshit sugary filler (much more sugary than 'Summer
on Smash'.

Jay's best lyrical work don't really sell, which is why
he makes horrid nonsense like 'Blueprint 3'. Difference
b/w Nas and Jay is that Nas kept making his 'American
Gangster' style records and demands the audience to like
his shit.

Jay is closing albums with 'Forever Young'.

That's the reason why Jay is more famous. He makes dumber
music and is a fantastic marketer. And again: Jay is
easily in my personal top 10 all time.


>You disagree, fine.
>
>My original point to Bags was that it's silly to get mad at
>people bringing up Jay for (his words) NO REASON when we all
>know what the reason is and he (like many others when one or
>the other is the subject) does the same thing often.

Nah, Bags is right, though. People only bring up Jay
in conversations to shit on Nas' bragging but almost never
bring up Nas to shit on Jay's bullshit introspection.

Its one of the strangest double standards I've ever seen
and Nas critics do it like clockwork.

'Life is Good' can be reviewed without any mention of Jay,
because Jay has nothing to do with it. Hell, Jay hasn't had
a record as good as this since 'The Blueprint, and that was
in 2001 (ironic, given Jay's comment on one hot album every
ten year average)




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454. "http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/157/234/99..."
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http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/157/234/99124221did_not_read.gif?1312267759

  

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429. "we shold discuss why there's no reason to mention jay in a nas review"
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because there just isn't.

they're not comparable. but for CERTAIN reviewers, they have no context for nas other than he's the dude that battled "international" hov AKA mainstream hov AKA gets passes for shoe-horning chris martin on albums (but somehow nas takes hits for putting winehouse on tracks post-mortem, despite the fact they'd already recorded shit together) AKA celebrity hov, whose art is judged on CELEBRITY, CLUB BANGERS and NOT cohesion, sincerity and innovation the way nas shit is.

they held to completely differet standards and people be bringing up jay name in nas reviews like nas supposed to do what jay does.

i'd love to see one of these muhfuckas review jay's next shit and be like "once again jay refuses to reveal himself and instead chooses to address the audience from the balcony of his 'swag-rap' castle, giving us more disposable lines about the life of a hustla and reading off the brands with ads in the latest issues of GQ and Esquire."

dogg, ain't no amount of hits gonna distract me from the fact jay be making shitty albums.

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431. "No fuckin doubt."
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435. "shit."
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>i'd love to see one of these muhfuckas review jay's next shit
>and be like "once again jay refuses to reveal himself and
>instead chooses to address the audience from the balcony of
>his 'swag-rap' castle, giving us more disposable lines about
>the life of a hustla and reading off the brands with ads in
>the latest issues of GQ and Esquire."

  

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453. "dawg you mention Jay in every Nas post, I didn't even read the review"
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and I think it's pretty obvious that these two are going to be compared as they have been for going on ten years.

  

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463. "^^^"
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400. "he's right^^^^"
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Dead on with the obligatory Illmatic mention to imply they know what they are talking about, when they most likely first heard it in 2004 on some bitch ass computer speakers, when they downloaded Illmatic after their rap phase started and they read that it's a "classic" on a message board.

  

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405. "yep."
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>Dead on with the obligatory Illmatic mention to imply they
>know what they are talking about, when they most likely first
>heard it in 2004 on some bitch ass computer speakers, when
>they downloaded Illmatic after their rap phase started and
>they read that it's a "classic" on a message board.

Where, you don't have to know the whole discography, but at least try to pretend there was music after that record. Even here, though it goes against the grain of consensus (re: "disappointing reception"), you will find more people talking about It Was Written, and I Am in the context of "Nas Fell Off" in this forum than you will these writers.

  

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428. "Best New Music on Pitchfork. That puts a pretty big hole in your theory"
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Not just a "hipster" site, but THE "hipster" site apparently loves the album.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16832-life-is-good/

  

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432. "But then the review begins like this..."
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>Nas has been disappointing people nearly half his life.<

...and I click the X in the top right corner.

I fucking hate that website.

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476. "It's true though."
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http://www.last.fm/user/_CondoM_/

  

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480. "It's a pointless comment..."
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And a backhanded asshole way to begin what's supposed to be a positive review. Everyone has been disappointing people for half their lives.

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481. "Not me"
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>Everyone has been disappointing people for
>half their lives.

http://www.last.fm/user/_CondoM_/

  

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561. "No it isn't"
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Regardless whether you agree or disagree, or what you think of their motives, that shit is standard writing technique 101. Start with The Story. Then proceed to explain how the new thing continues, redefines, or disproves The Story. Sportswriters do it, reviewers do it... every kind of writer who criticizes in real time does it.

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373. ""
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the usual for a nas lp
some glimmers of the past
some disappointments of the now
ain't as good as watch the throne to me
to me, i said

life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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381. "What's funny/ironic about this album..."
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in relation to his last two solos (Untitled and HipHop Is Dead), is that he consciously applied a gimmicky title and theme to both his previous albums to make noise.

This album, he applied a title that made a little noise but I think he was genuine about the title. And it shows in the music, as he pulled off the "Life Is Good" theme better, almost without trying, than he did both the serious attempts at themed/gimmick'ed albums.

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388. "RE: What's funny/ironic about this album..."
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AS USUAL....I AGREE WITH YOU...LOL

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393. "Hah - daps homie"
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n/m

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389. "agreed, that simple mantra running thru this album & appearing"
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in various contexts, on different songs, whether hooks verses or ad-libs & sometimes even from folks other than Nas helps build to his most cohesive album from a feel/thematic perspective since the beginning of his career.

  

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394. "Yep, exactly."
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You hit on precisely what I was trying to say.

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390. "It's still fairly vague as a concept album"
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Explicit mentions of Kelis aside, I don't see much of a difference between this and most other Nas albums in terms of subject matter. The consistency here is what sets this one apart for me.

  

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392. "I see your point..."
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and I think it kind of helps mine. I wasn't trying to say it was a "concept album" at all. My point was that he didn't TRY to make a concept album this time around.

"Life Is Good" is a vague title, absolutely. My point was that without even trying, he pulled off more cohesion of content (even if the content is considered diverse, it can still touch on topics that even indirectly relate) than he did on his previous two efforts on which he was consciously TRYING to make a "concept album," for lack of a better term.

But I agree with you that it's the consistency overall that makes the album as good as it is.

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399. "You're hitting on what makes Nas so fascinating.."
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His career is this weird combination of laser-like precision (Illmatic) and intense sloppiness (about half his other albums). The former far outweighs the latter with this album.




>and I think it kind of helps mine. I wasn't trying to say it
>was a "concept album" at all. My point was that he didn't TRY
>to make a concept album this time around.
>
>"Life Is Good" is a vague title, absolutely. My point was that
>without even trying, he pulled off more cohesion of content
>(even if the content is considered diverse, it can still touch
>on topics that even indirectly relate) than he did on his
>previous two efforts on which he was consciously TRYING to
>make a "concept album," for lack of a better term.
>
>But I agree with you that it's the consistency overall that
>makes the album as good as it is.

  

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406. "Yeah."
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>This album, he applied a title that made a little noise but I
>think he was genuine about the title. And it shows in the
>music, as he pulled off the "Life Is Good" theme better,
>almost without trying, than he did both the serious attempts
>at themed/gimmick'ed albums.

hell, it even shows on the album cover. I think it's one of the most well-executed Nas ideas in a long time.

  

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386. "...and for the record..."
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...NY products are killin it this year, as usual...The best Hip Hop ish still comes from the City that never sleeps...check it...

Nas "Life Is Good"
EL-P "Cancer for Cure"
Aesop Rock "Skelethon"
Masta Ace/Doom "Son of Yvonne"

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419. "aawwwww how cute"
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391. "So can we end the "Nas needs the Illmatic team back" chants?"
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I hope Nas sticks with No ID/Remi for the next one.

  

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401. "^"
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>I hope Nas sticks with No ID/Remi for the next one.

Agreed, although I wouldn't be mad at any future collabos with any of the Illmatic production team. I just don't think it's necessary at all at this point.
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395. "Some reviews"
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like this http://www.allmusic.com/album/life-is-good-mw0002382213

are odd to me, the "he's bitter and bragging too much". The album is called Life Is Good and you say he's bragging too much?

Calling a song like "Stay" venomous?

Can't remember the last time I got mad reading reviews lol

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397. "RE: Some reviews"
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Nas is never good enough for people. I saw that shit. So what, Life is Good is 4.5 out of 5 to me. I'm good with the LP..

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398. "This review stoopid..."
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let Doc tell this clown about "bitter" (post 354 and down).

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407. "Yeah, cats review Nas albums like he's an estranged friend"
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Like he's a nigga they actually ran with

They take his lyrics so PERSONALLY, like what
he says affects them in their personal lives

Its very strange

Never heard so many reviews cry about a rapper
discussing how much he enjoys his life and what
he owns

Nas actually is quite wealthy, not sure why niggas
get so mad

Like, just listen to the album, tell me if it sounds
good

If you do that, this album gets extremely high marks

If you listen to it like he's an estranged friend or
a nigga who dated your ex, you gonna be mad and give
it a bad review

My goodness

  

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482. "That review is weird..."
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It reminds me of what someone on this site (I think it was Bombastic but I might be wrong) was saying about how some critics treated artists like Ice Cube in the early 90's:They base their review on how they feel about the subject matter rather than the quality of the songs or the rhymes or whatever. Basically, this is interpreted as a divorce-album (which I don't even agree with) and they go into the songs with that in mind and the album is a failure almost by default since they don't like the ''concept'' *they* (not even the artist) claim is the point of the album. However, where is the actual review of the music? The songs, rhymes etc.? You know, the type of stuff that's actually quite relevant? Stupid shit...

  

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483. "You don't think content is important in reviewing music?"
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>However, where is the
>actual review of the music? The songs, rhymes etc.? You know,
>the type of stuff that's actually quite relevant? Stupid
>shit...

I think that content is "quite relevant" as well. But, if what you're saying is that BOTH the music on it's own, AND the content needs to be reviewed, I agree with you. It's all part of it.

But, content is equally as important IMO, but should not be the only portion of the artwork to be reviewed. It's all part of it, so if that's what you're saying I agree. All of it needs to be discussed if you are trying to be objective about a piece of art.

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519. "Content in this context=lyrics, flow, beats etc."
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Lyrics here meaning the quality of the writing rather than the subject matter. Of course, subject-matter is not irrelevant; otherwise I could rock out to some nazi-punk or something. However-and let's be real-this is Hip-Hop; if you are going to dismiss it based on the "offensive" content (content as in subject-matter), you can dismiss a SHITLOAD of classic albums. I mean Nas is "bragging", he is "venomous" and those are bad things? Might as well dismiss literally hundreds of dope albums in the genre then...

Fact is that in order to enjoy a shitload of great Hip-Hop albums, you have to leave the moral-luggage at the door; otherwise, you'd be left listening to Arrested Development or Kweli...

  

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521. "Word word."
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Now that you elaborate a bit, I agree with you.

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484. "yup, that was me, specifically Rolling Stone's AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted"
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review (basically docking it down to a two-and-a-half-star album because it was viewed as misogynist) & the Village Voice's Fear of a Black Planet review (where they tore apart the album as a result of 'Revolutionary Generation' coming from a group that once made 'Sophisticated Bitch' & 'She Watch Channel Zero', as well as Flav making a welfare-dependent punchline on 'Cant Do Nuttin For You Man' as if those two minor details were what a twenty-song opus hinged on).

Rolling Stone also gave Midnight Marauders a two-star review because they felt contained more cursing & felt 'crankier' than the first two albums (i.e., we thought these were the good/happy/quirky jazzy-rap negroes we could use to represent the antithesis of big-bad 'gangsta' rap).

Those were both the typical reviews borne out of the Newsweek 'Rap Rage' cover story era, where in the mainstream American media rappers were graded/quoted completely literal & expected to display more philosophical/ethical consistency than politicians while other genres were evaluated on an actual musical contribution level.

In doing so they pretty much missed the point of countless rap records during their actual release period.

However I guarantee if you were to see commentary on any of those same records through the safety of a revisionist lens all those records are probably now deemed classic.

Back then it
>It reminds me of what someone on this site (I think it was
>Bombastic but I might be wrong) was saying about how some
>critics treated artists like Ice Cube in the early 90's:They
>base their review on how they feel about the subject matter
>rather than the quality of the songs or the rhymes or
>whatever. Basically, this is interpreted as a divorce-album
>(which I don't even agree with) and they go into the songs
>with that in mind and the album is a failure almost by default
>since they don't like the ''concept'' *they* (not even the
>artist) claim is the point of the album. However, where is the
>actual review of the music? The songs, rhymes etc.? You know,
>the type of stuff that's actually quite relevant? Stupid
>shit...
>

  

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489. "Yeah, fuck this review."
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O_E and Jakob described it perfectly. Reads like it was written by Kelis' BFF or some shit. Review the music and leave it at that, shit.

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402. "Anyone know who is on the hook of Roses?"
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It's not in the liners....I don't even know if that's a singer or a sample lol.

phemom's the name, all-star writer/
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500. "rapgenius says Nikki Flores"
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http://rapgenius.com/Nas-roses-lyrics

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414. "XXL gives Life Is Good a XXL (swipe)"
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http://www.xxlmag.com/reviews/2012/07/nas-life-is-good/

Nas, Life Is Good
With Life Is Good, Nas arguably delivers his best album since 2001′s Stillmatic

Illmatic still rings true 18 years later. The Queensbridge lyricist never fell. He never ceased to be celebrated as one of the most revered wordsmiths in the game, butthough hes continued to cement his legendary status with solid efforts album after albumhe hasnt come close to matching his best works in quite some time. The tide, though, has changed with Nas 10th LP, Life Is Good.

As its historically been the case, Nas is at his best when facing adversity. His last two superior releases2001s Stillmatic and 2002s Gods Sonwere inspired by his heated rivalry with Jay-Z and the death of his mother, respectively.

This time around, a divorce with R&B singer Kelis and reports of outstanding tax liens are at the center of his topical palette, which still ranges from fly shit to revolutionary ideals, as evidenced on the opening number, No Introduction. Hood forever, I just act like Im civilized/Really whats in my mind is organizing a billion Black muthafuckas/To take over JP and Morgan Goldman and Sachs/And teach the world facts and give Saudi they oil back, he rhymes. He comes closest to addressing his alleged financial troubles on the No I.D.-produced, Loco-Motive. I started out broke, got rich, lost paper then made it back/Like Trump bein up down up, play with cash, he spits.

Creatively, Nas continues to reinvent the wheel. He takes reckless shooters to task on Accident Murderers featuring Rick Rossthe LPs only rap guest appearanceand retraces his fatherly missteps on Daughters. On the Amy Winehouse-assisted, Cherry Winea song that sounds like a lost cut from the British singers Frank sessionsNas fantasizes about his dream girl, before coming to terms with his failed marriage on Bye Baby. Over Salaam Remis sampling of Guys Goodbye Love, Nas finds closure with a heartfelt letter to Kelis. Wanted you as my shorty since before I saw you screamin, Hate you so much right now/Shouldve saw the man in angry Black women/Actions of a demonIm leaving, he offers.

Nass beat selection has long been called into question, but not this time. Salaam Remi and No I.D. split the bulk of the production for a cohesive sound bed filled with soul and jazz overtones. Though the Swizz Beatz-produced, Summer on Smash has potential to garner radio play, it feels out of place and is the discs only substandard moment.

Still, Life Is Good is arguably Nas best LP since Stillmatic. In a climate where substance is scarce, the album is necessary. Its potent from the excellent cover art to Nass sharp bars. Its balanced. The Queens MC is open, but not emo. Hard, but also thought-provoking.

On Reach Out, Nas rhymes, And you become better than legends you thought were the greatest. Again, the Nasty MCs words ring true. At this juncture21 years and 10 solo albums inno other MC has ever rhymed at such a high level this deep into their career. Not Rakim. Not Kool G Rap. Not Slick Rick. Not Big Daddy Kane. Not LL Cool J. No One. Carl Chery

  

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416. "Nas Q&amp;amp;A--VIBE (Personal Swipe)"
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Nas Talks 'Life Is Good,' Wanting Eminem and Jay-Z for "Daughters (Remix)"


First, lets get it out of the way. Nas Life Is Good is worth the proverbial hype. The tenth release from the celebrated Queensbridge, New York lyricist is also his best effort in yearsa work that is as brutally honest as it is ambitious. Yes, much of the talk surrounding the project revolves around its startling, barebones personal content, a project that finds Nas brilliantly detailing his very public divorce with R&B vixen Kelis, his tax issues and fatherhood. But to Nas credit, Life Is Good is more than just bold a dissection of tabloid headlines. Its hopeful, infectious, defiant, redemptive and at times nostalgic. VIBE caught up with Nas to discuss his bold new work and his legacy within the hip-hop landscape. Its Nasty Nas, yall.Keith Murphy



Theres been a lot of talk about the influence Marvin Gayes landmark Here, My Dear had on you during the recording of Life Is Good. How much of an impact did that album have on your creative writing process?

A lotjust Marvins overall genius. Its an album that I really love and a lot of people still have never heard it. Marvin wasnt afraid to put it all out there. He was very open with of his marriage.

From the album cover, which highlights Kelis wedding dress, to some of the personal details you reveal about your own divorce, were you initially apprehensive about sharing personal details of your relationship?

It just came naturally. It really bothered me because we are in the Internet age. There was no way to avoid everything that was out there. To me thats what shaped this album. I couldnt escape all the stuff about my marriage or questions about my finances. So my answer was putting Kelis green wedding dress on the album cover. The music and the reality of my life go hand-in-hand. Life is poetry and thats what this new album is. I havent had a record out in a long time. This is the way I got it all off of my chest.

Can you talk about what the creative process was like working with No I.D.?

With No I.D. at first it took us a while to really see what train we were both on. We both seemed to agree on a lot of things, but to work together we had to make sure we were on the same page. His take on the album was for me to just be myself. Forget everything elsejust do whats real. Thats always been the formula with me and Salaam Remi. So it was no different with No I.D. We would just spend sessions talking. Those conversations really kept me on point. No I.D. is a brilliant dude.

One of the songs on Life Is Good that showcases your fruitful collaborative relationship with No I.D. is the single Daughters, which talks about your at times rocky relationship with your teenage daughter Destiny. Can you describe the first time she heard the song?

She was there when I was recording it. We were in a big studio so Destiny was doing other things, but she walked into the room where I was recording it and heard a few words and said, Whats going on? The whole room just started laughing and she kind of smiled and walked backwards out of the room. She didnt know what it was about and she didnt want to listen to it, but later on she heard the song.

And what was the verdict?

I think she understands where I was coming from. She can hear me saying that I wasnt always around and I wasnt always the best dad, but I care. And there are a lot of fathers like me. To me, Daughters lets all those fathers out there know, Hey, dont end up like me in terms of not being there all the time. You should really pay attention to the most precious thing in the world. Destiny and I hang out all the time. She never beefs with me about it.

What did you learn from working with Swizz Beatz this go around?

Working with Swizz was great. We both have been through divorce. Me and Swizz both been through baby mama drama. We both have an undying love for hip-hop. And we are in great places in our life. Hes probably in a better place when it comes to his love life because Swizz is married to the amazing Alicia Keys. But were both in a great place in our lives.

There are some very savvy features on this album such as Rick Ross, Anthony Hamilton, and the late Amy Winehouse. Were there any other artists that you wanted to collaborate with that didnt make it on the album?

One of the only other rappers I thought about was AZ. And I wanted Eminem for a remix for Daughters, but he had already expressed that hes spoken so much about his daughter throughout his career that he had done that subject too much. And me and Jay-Z talked about doing some things, but our schedules were so crazy.

That would have been worthy of pushing back the album, huh?

*Laughs* Well, I know we both are probably going to be upset that he didnt make it onto the album because I really look forward to working with Jay. But I didnt want a lot of people on the album since its been four years for me. Next album Ill do more features, but on this one I didnt want to have a lot of people on the album. I also have Mary J. Blige on vocals. Im drawn to that soulful sound.

There seems to be a real synergy between you and Rick Ross. Were you surprised how well you complimented each other lyrically?

Not really. People see him as a Biggiebut I see him as an Isaac Hayes or a Barry White when it comes to his actual sound. He has soul. His voice is soulful. And where he raps from is very soulful. Thats how he resonates to me. So thats why I wanted him on the record.

This is probably the most stripped down Nas album fans have heard in a long time. Did you have any of the Def Jam suits complain that you werent being commercial enough with this release?

Lets be real, this is a business. Its always about money, but when it came to Life Is Good I told Salaam and No I.D. that I wanted to make music that was age appropriate and real to who I am. And that was still connecting with todays hip-hop fan. But the truth is, we dont know that market. We dont know who that consumer is. So that no longer became the focal point for this album. Now its about doing what we love. To make music with No ID and Salaam, who were both poppin in the 90s and still poppin today, they were the perfect producers to work with me. This record took on a feeling of an era thats been gone for a while.

Having worked with Nicki Minaj, what are your views on some critics who say she is not real hip-hop?

I think the hip-hop purists are purists through and through. Theyre here to criticize all of us. Thats just how it is. We as MCs criticize each other. Thats the nature of hip-hop. But to say that Nicki is not hip-hop is inaccurate. She wouldnt be here if she wasnt hip-hop. We saw her come up in the streets and virally with all the YouTube videos. She earned her position. She came up through the ranks. She came from nothing and became the one female thats holding it down for hip-hop.

Before you released your landmark album Illmatic, you were barely 18-years-old when you made your recording debut on Main Sources Live At The Barbecue in 1991. What goes through your mind when you listen to that verse decades later?

It gives me the chills. Im thinking to myself, The balls of this young man! *laughs* The curiosity in his rhyme and the heart and the voice. I was saying to the world, Its about to go downIm about to do some things. From that point on, I would have never known that I would be the guy with probably the longest hip-hop career that has been able to stay strong and have a meaning. I feel like Ive been able to keep it diverse and creative. I think Ive had the longest career of strength, focus, and still being able to sell records. I think Im that guy. Im still blessed with the opportunity to make music and pass out a message like life is good to the world.

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425. "DOPE"
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I wonder what happened with the AZ collabo.

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439. "RE: DOPE"
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>I wonder what happened with the AZ collabo.


Thanks, dog....

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465. "Ross probably spit it"
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justsayin

  

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430. "good stuff, dude. thanks for sharing. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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440. "RE: good stuff, dude. thanks for sharing. "
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*tips hat*.....

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433. "good stuff as always"
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i wish they would have done that daughters remix.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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449. "RE: good stuff as always"
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>i wish they would have done that daughters remix.


Thanks....

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475. "shoulda had Jay do it...."
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he still could i guess.

Jay could have approached it from a daughter that has yet to be raised.

  

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436. "that's a real good interview"
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Nas sounds actually more like his recorded self in that piece

  

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450. "RE: that's a real good interview"
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>Nas sounds actually more like his recorded self in that
>piece


Thanks Doc.....

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418. ""Summer on smash" vs "Pants on the ground""
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Is it me or do the chorus sound similar?

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420. "haha, I can hear that a bit now that you mention it"
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434. "now I'm hearing Favre doing that chorus"
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456. "I told Swizzy I'd do this(c)Purp Farve"
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443. "this POS truly ruined an epic piece of art...i hate it so much"
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y'all know i always hated swizz anyway and partied when he ruined jay albums.

i been so mad the last 72 hours about this song.

____________________________________________________


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445. "Me too."
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I hate Swizz with the fire of 1,000 suns. Fuck that clown.

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446. "Summer on Trash is so bad..."
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I've already replaced it with Nasty on my iTunes. I NEVER do that shit. Like I Know a lot of y'all around here like to mix up and make your own tracklists for albums, but typically even if there's bad songs, I like to have albums in my system the way the artist intended it. Called me old fashioned. I mean I've even left tracks like Smokin' on Stillmatic and shit.

But this song is THAT BAD. That for teh first time since I've had iTunes (years), I was compelled to get that shit the fuck out of my face. I cannot even listen to it. Nasty it is (which should've been on the album in the first place, but that's another story).

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421. "I'll be here when you niggers turn on Nas yet again"
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437. "Uh oh, pfork review........."
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Haha naw, they couldn't deny it either.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16832-life-is-good/

Nas has been disappointing people nearly half his life. By now, the passion play of raised and swiftly dashed hopes that occurs whenever he announces a new album has repeated itself enough times to officially qualify as farce. You'd think he'd be exhausted by now, and there were times over his last three sleepwalking efforts when he sounded just that: a guy wearily familiar with his own towering mythology, and increasingly disinterested in living up to it.
But what if Nas stopped fretting about blowing people's minds or disappointing them and just, you know, made a record? It's the kind of question Nas devotees have spent years pondering, and Life Is Good, his 11th studio album and strongest in three or four presidential administrations, is basically the answer. Song for song, it's his most solid, disaster-free album since, well... we won't go there, as comparing Nas albums is like comparing birthdays where your father showed up late instead of not at all. But for once, Nas sidesteps oblivion. Life Is Good finds him avoiding most of his worst impulses, scraping the pseudo-mystical Righteous Teacher patina off his crown and touching back down in the Queensbridge of his sense memory over late-summer-light production.
Life Is Good is so consistent, in fact, that it's disorienting, and those of us with a long history navigating Nas albums will have a lot of pressing questions: What are all these top-shelf beats doing here? Where are the queasy sex jams, the songs rapped from the perspective of heroin spoons or discarded E&J bottles, the choruses about being a Warrior and a Hero? Where is the blindingly ill-fitting Nas Radio Bid? (The lone example, the Swizz Beatz-produced "Summer on Smash", is just inoffensively generic.) But above all: What happened this time?
Part of the answer is clear. The last few years have been turbulent ones in Nas' personal life -- his brutally public split with Kelis, the costly settlement, the embarrassing fiasco with his teenage daughter tweeting pictures of a bejeweled box of condoms in her bedroom. Historically at his best when shaken, Nas has rich material to work with here, and he's more open-hearted on Life Is Good than he has been since God's Son. "Daughters", his sweetly reflective response to the condom-gate that is no less sweet for its slight lyrical awkwardness (he refers to what is presumably Twitter just as "the social network"), finds him examining the responsibilities of fatherhood with fond bewilderment. The song aimed directly at Kelis ("Bye Baby"), meanwhile, is more a good-times remembrance than score-settling. "You screamin' at the racist cops in Miami was probably the highlight of my life," he recalls, the affection audible in his voice.
It's also entirely possible that Nas fans have No I.D. to thank for Life Is Good's quality. In the recent Complex cover story on Nas, I.D. said that he "wanted to make a soundtrack that allowed Nas to be Nas." Mentor to Kanye, a Chicago rap veteran, and the current executive vice president at Def Jam, No I.D. seems to be cementing his role as the Rap Whisperer: He recently guided a deeply confused Common to his first good record in nine years, and it's likely he exercised some of the same gentle-but-firm guidance here. He produces five of 14 tracks on Life is Good, and they all exude the warm TV-fireplace crackle of the best throwback production. You can feel the July city-heat sweat drip off the wooly saxophone on "Stay", while "Back When" flickers like a dim neon sign. The lyrics to "Back When" don't even do much besides gesture at Nas' musty mythology: "check out the oracle bred by city housing," Hollis Ave, Shan, and Marley, "you love to hear the story of how it all got started," etc. But he breathes through it with old-Shakespearean-actor fondness-- he was, after all, there, and No I.D. provides just the right lighting.
The rest of the production list reads as if it were crowd-sourced by exacting Nas purists: Buckwild, Salaam Remi, the late Heavy D (who gave Nas "The Don" before he passed away). Remi's blaring beat for "A Queens Story" is like a louder, more dramatic version of "Get Down", its tension ratcheted up by James Bond-theme horn blurts. There are a couple of playful, possibly shameless nods to Illmatic: On the intro to "Loco-Motive", a suspiciously familiar-sounding subway train rolls over tracks in the distance. Nas dedicates the song to "my trapped in the 90s niggas," a line that could be used against him but that sounds, in the album's context, like playfulness. You can't recapture lightning in a bottle, or age backwards, but you can settle gracefully into strengths. Nas isn't back; he's just here.
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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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438. "lotta stuff about illmatic in there...it's 2012"
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452. "It's also highly negative for no reason...."
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Like, because the album is undeniable they give it a good score (BEST NEW MUSIC), but still make sure they get their shots in.

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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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461. "oh, i peeped...whole review seemed insincere"
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464. "fuck it. I laughed. because they're so mad"
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441. "fuck them, I stopped reading after the first few sentences"
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because it made it painfully obvious that the reviewer doesn't know shit about rap music.

  

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442. "Yep see my post #432..."
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same shit here. Fucking idiots.

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448. "I'm glad it's favorable but why do y'all give them do "
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Much juice?

  

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459. "I care* only from the perspective that some folks do"
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Doesn't affect my view on albums, what I should or shouldn't buy/listen to, etc.

It's more like since SOME people look at them for some sort of stamp of approval before it's ok to like or hate something, then here you go.






(*"care' is too strong a word.....idk, I find it amusing, I guess lol)
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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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468. "Somebody at pitchfork farts and theres a post"
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this is no different.

  

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479. "Damn, I just got a shoutout in a Pitchfork review."
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http://www.last.fm/user/_CondoM_/

  

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447. "9/10 3rd best album I'll say it's about a tie w stillmatic "
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Cotdaymn I don't see how you can even front

if you thought him and jay were = lyrically before this album
Lol but ok

If you still think they are after this
Lolz

  

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455. "its actually way better than Stillmatic, nice obligatory Jay mention tho"
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466. "Upon further inspection I think it may be better "
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Definitely production wise
Lyrically might be too

This shit is good

Couldn't help myself on the jay refrence
I'm mad I didnt edit

  

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457. "I'd give it 8.5-9/10, fifth best album, which is great considering."
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It Was Written
Illmatic
The Lost Tapes
Stillmatic
Life Is Good

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462. "Fifth?? Mann gone "
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458. "You Wouldn't Understand is 'Hero' after it grows up & its nuts drop"
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460. "This dude on my Fb timeline made a post titled: "
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Jay z is still the hardest out no one is close


Haha

They mad

  

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486. "i predict Jay following suit and making a great album "
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Drokayplayer ™


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467. "Pretty solid Nas album"
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Lots of hyperbole in this post, IMO

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470. "it's a new album from an established artist, no news there"
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471. "Another #1 debut it seems..."
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http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news09053m01

LIFE IS GOOD FOR NAS
Def Jam/IDJ Rapper Should Debut at #1 with 115-125k

July 18, 2012

Nas new Def Jam/IDJ album, Life is Good, is his 10th in an impressive career dating back to 94s now iconic Illmatic. It should debut at #1 on next weeks HITS Album sales chart with between 115-125k, according to one-day figures provided by those music retailers who are still creating jobs, according to President Obama.

The quintessential N.Y. rappers last album, Untitled, debuted in July four years ago with 187k in first-week sales.

Razor & Ties latest edition of the Kidz Bop Kidz franchise is the 22nd in the long-running series since it launched in 2001, and has proven a big money-maker for the indie. This latest in what has become a cottage industry should do between 60-65k, which is even better than the last one. Eight of the titles in the franchise have gone gold.

Fearless Records San Diego-based punk rock band Pierce the Veil, formed by brothers Vic and Mike Fuentes, has previously released a pair of studio albums. Their third, Collide with the Sky, should do in the neighborhood of 25-30k its first week.

WaterTowers Hans Zimmer soundtrack for Dark Knight Rises look to do between 20-25k, while Fallen Sparks/REDs Matisyahu and Eleven Sevens Hellyeaha metal supergroup featuring Mudvaynes Chad Gray and Greg Tribbett with members of Damageplan and Pantera drummer Vinnie Paulshould both do in the 14-17k range.

Album sales were down 4% vs. last week, down 1% vs. same week last year and down 3% year to date.

Track sales were down 3% vs. last week, up 9% vs. same week last year and up 6% year to date.

TEA sales were down 4% vs. last week, up 2% vs. same week last year and flat year to date.

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472. "Good shit..."
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I've only heard it once (on Spotify!) yet but it sounds dope with some slight reservations. I'll be back after more listenings...

  

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473. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKEhVkseW2g"
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...Are the drums different on the commercial release of the track "The Don" than those on what was released early/youtube? Drums sound different to me...

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478. "RE: Dope. n/m"
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487. "The more I listen to this the more this becomes my second favorite Nas....."
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I've never been able to *really* get into It Was Written. If it's a great album, it must be one of the dullest great albums ever released. I don't get hype, I don't smile, I don't laugh listening to it, and it sure as hell doesn't make me think. I admire the craft put in on the crazy rhyme schemes and all, but Nas seems audibly effected by the narcolepsy-inducing Trackmasters beats. They're not terrible or anything, but so many of the songs Nas seems to be devoting so much craft to such vacuous premises. I would be more easily able to accept that from a rapper like... Ghostface, Bun B or Pimp, Jay, Doom, basically any rapper gifted with a decent sense of humor. Nas really doesn't have one, at least on record, and that makes it a lot harder for me to enjoy his songs where he's not talking about anything.

The Stillmatic-God's Son-Street's Disciple trilogy was all pretty good to me, but all of them have fairly low lows. Obviously Life is Good has Summer on Smash, but to me, that's it. There are no other skippable tracks on the entire 18-track deluxe edition. And while some of the beats are not exactly what I think of when I picture my ideal hip hop album, Nas sounds great over all of them. And the stuff he says is relatable and meaningful. It's really the Nas I want to hear. Conflicted, contradicted, down to earth, specific, nuanced. Bye Baby is perfect. I thought it would be much more venomous from the "Here My Dear" comparisons, but really it's wistful, amused, and sad.

I love this album. It has everything. Oh, and the bangers bang.

  

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488. "All extremely well said bruh..."
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>The Stillmatic-God's Son-Street's Disciple trilogy was all
>pretty good to me, but all of them have fairly low lows.
>Obviously Life is Good has Summer on Smash, but to me, that's
>it. There are no other skippable tracks on the entire 18-track
>deluxe edition. And while some of the beats are not exactly
>what I think of when I picture my ideal hip hop album, Nas
>sounds great over all of them. And the stuff he says is
>relatable and meaningful. It's really the Nas I want to hear.
>Conflicted, contradicted, down to earth, specific, nuanced.
>Bye Baby is perfect. I thought it would be much more venomous
>from the "Here My Dear" comparisons, but really it's wistful,
>amused, and sad.

I still don't know where I rate it amongst the rest of his discography but I think it's top 3. Obviosuly I'll need more time.

That said tho, I agree that Nas makes great tracks even out of the beats where initially I was like "what is this". In other words, in a way, he made me love a couple of beats that I would have passed over had another MC made the song.

I replaced Summer on Trash with Nasty in my iPod. The other bonus tracks are all excellent, like you said. I couldn't have really put it better myself. This album is excellent, front to back, and Nas is lyrically on another planet right now.

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499. "RE: All extremely well said bruh..."
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IMO...it goes like this...

1. Illmatic
2. It Was Written
3. Life Is Good

Peace!

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495. "Summer on Smash is the ONLY song I nodded my head to."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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497. "bamma moleculed ass bamma"
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498. "*splashes ciroc*"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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496. "Nasty Nas does 139k"
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http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

  

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501. "This is a serious question..."
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as I have no idea what's considered a good opening week anymore. But, that's pretty damn good for this day and age, right?

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502. "Yep, that's considered good."
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503. "and cherry wine hasn't even been released yet"
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that should be the next single

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504. "Agree."
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I assume it will be.

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510. "it'd be a perfect smooth summer single"
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its classic Nas

  

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520. "i'm pretty sure i saw on twitter somewhere that SOS is up next."
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523. "isn't that already a single?"
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i've heard it on tv, but yeah, i would expect that to be released first, but cherry wine definitely after that, and cherry wine will be HUGE. Amy being on it ALONE will push that, plus it's a great song

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507. "not really-its the worst opening week for his career aside from Illmatic"
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I mean obviously it's not gonna approach the level of his big multi-platinum days but to be 50-60K down from what the 'Untitled' album sold in its opening week (when it had basically no competition amongst debuts) was a little disappointing because I really want this album to be heard since it's the best thing he's done in so long.

They need to figure a single out to work, 'Cherry Wine' seems like the best choice.

  

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508. "Word..."
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Wed Jul-25-12 07:58 AM by Brew

          

I hear you, and agree that I'd like to see this album succeed too.

But I think there may be a few factors that contributed to why this album would sell less than Untitled:

(a) the "gimmick" of the Untitled album title originally, which made lots of waves and naturally sells records,

and,

(b) Spotify didn't exist in 2008. I think a lot of people who may have otherwise bought a physical or digital copy are now listening to most or even all of their music on Spotify these days. I have about 20 friends myself who literally will NOT listen to any music if it's unavailable on Spotify. This is sad and pisses me off because I've been trying to get some of them to listen to Cocaine 80s for months now but they just won't budge.

This is just a theory of course but I think it may have a lot to do with it.

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511. "RE: Word..."
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>I hear you, and agree that I'd like to see this album succeed
>too.
>
>But I think there may be a few factors that contributed to why
>this album would sell less than Untitled:
>
>(a) the "gimmick" of the Untitled album title originally,
>which made lots of waves and naturally sells records,
>
>and,
>
>(b) Spotify didn't exist in 2008. I think a lot of people who
>may have otherwise bought a physical or digital copy are now
>listening to most or even all of their music on Spotify these
>days. I have about 20 friends myself who literally will NOT
>listen to any music if it's unavailable on Spotify. This is
>sad and pisses me off because I've been trying to get some of
>them to listen to Cocaine 80s for months now but they just
>won't budge.
>
>This is just a theory of course but I think it may have a lot
>to do with it.


Said it before I could^^^^^^^

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517. "maybe, though I don't think the 'Untitled' flap really did a whole lot"
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for that albums sales anymore than the divorce-cover did for this one & by '08 it was pretty easy to hear albums without paying for them but I guess combined it might be worth something, whether it accounts for a 50-60K drop I'm not sure.

I think the distance between Nas' last real hit getting longer probably has more to do with both but who knows.

  

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522. "Yep."
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>for that albums sales anymore than the divorce-cover did for
>this one & by '08 it was pretty easy to hear albums without
>paying for them but I guess combined it might be worth
>something, whether it accounts for a 50-60K drop I'm not
>sure.

Right, I don't think it was the only factor...


>I think the distance between Nas' last real hit getting longer
>probably has more to do with both but who knows.

...this would be a factor to consider, too.

And, you're right that in 2008 you could fairly easily listen to an album without buying it, but it still required some type of download agent (torrent or whatever) and a search and download. Spotify is literally type in the name and boom, whole album at your fingertips.

But, yea, I don't think it makes up for 50-60k in sales, just saying that has made it far easier to hear tunes.

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525. "RE: maybe, though I don't think the 'Untitled' flap really did a whole l..."
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>for that albums sales anymore than the divorce-cover did for
>this one & by '08 it was pretty easy to hear albums without
>paying for them but I guess combined it might be worth
>something, whether it accounts for a 50-60K drop I'm not
>sure.


An album entitled Nigger did a lot...because it made Nas a political center of attention...When you got Bill O Reilly and Rev Al drawing attention to your album (both sides of the coin) and you are getting coverage on Access Hollywood, Good Morning America and all the pop culture shows because you and your wife came to an awards show with matching "nigger" jackets, it matters...

No one is saying that was the ONLY reason...Just saying that played an important part to its stronger sales....


>I think the distance between Nas' last real hit getting longer
>probably has more to do with both but who knows.


I think it comes down to technology rapidly changing...Spotify (as someone so astutely pointed out) and Twitter can both be pointed to and factors...There's simply more new ways to hear music beyond album downloads...

All this to say....A rapper (Nas) who made their recording debut in 1991 that's still charting and getting mainstream buzz is winning...

In a big way...

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527. "That someone was ME"
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>I think it comes down to technology rapidly changing...Spotify
>(as someone so astutely pointed out) and Twitter can both be
>pointed to and factors...There's simply more new ways to hear
>music beyond album downloads...

I snag credit whenever I can. Haha.


>All this to say....A rapper (Nas) who made their recording
>debut in 1991 that's still charting and getting mainstream
>buzz is winning...
>
>In a big way...

FOR FUCKING SURE. It's remarkable.

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529. "Spotify...FTW!!!"
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(at least as far as listeners go)

also, 2008 was long ago (in technology terms)...people buy even less music now.

  

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505. "Nas says Marvin "Inspired" him"
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Nas talks about how Marvin Gaye inspired his latest project, "Life is Good" and how he's inspired to marry again, if the right person comes along.

Queens, New York's Nas has been quite candid about his struggles in promoting and releasing his latest album, Life is Good. The QB emcee has talked about how much divorce, parenting and money issues have all been integral in his growth, allowing him to see the more inspiring parts of life. In being so open about these things, he drew inspiration from another artist who also faced similar issues in his career, Marvin Gaye.

"I'm a big fan of Marvin, and I guess about 12 years ago I heard this album, Here, My Dear," Nas told NPR recently. "Marvin was married to Berry Gordy's sister. She was older than him and she was sophisticated, she was fly. She had the diamonds, the pearls. She knew how to live and she taught him how to live. She was his love and it ended and he chose to do an album about that when other styles of music were becoming popular at the time. He could have took advantage of the new style of music that was hitting. Instead, what he had to do he had his tax problems, all kinds of things what he needed to do was give this record to her, the money from the record. But most of all, he turned the record into a record about her. I didn't want to do that. He inspired me, so I wanted to do it my way."

Nas also shared that he hopes he can find the right woman for him now.

"Well, I thought that I found one, and I don't know, bro. I'm messed up out here, man. I got the opportunity to meet people all over the world," he shared. "Brilliant women, tall women, short women, slim women, thick women, you name it. But, I don't meet them. I have the opportunities to and it's a little bit I'm a little shy, so I don't meet them and I don't know who's right for me. I looked at people like Harry Belafonte he's been married like three times; Richard Pryor he's been married like five times. So many affluent men are faced with finding love problems. I'm sure beautiful, affluent women are faced with the same things sometimes. Halle Berry can't seem to get a break, you know what I'm saying? So, it's just something that I don't know if we'll ever figure out. I hope I do while I'm here."

On the album, Nas also explains that he wants to "do it again" on "Bye Baby," speaking about marriage. When asked about this, the Illmatic emcee said he's willing to give it another try.

"At some point I'll do it again. It'd be great. I want to be better at it. I want to be the best at it. I want to have fun. It's a beautiful life. You learn, you win, you lose, but you get up," he noted. "I just wanted to make that one real record about that situation. I'm hearing artists, men, famous guys, cry when they heard that song and it just blows me away. For one, it means I nailed it and to me that is the greatest feeling of achievement. You don't want to disappoint. Especially someone like me who's been out of music for years and hasn't had an album in like, four years. I don't want to disappoint that's a nightmare to me. So when I hear people love it or like it or even cry to it, it just says 'Wow, I did something right. I got it; I got it done. I'm not falling off.' That song, I had to. It was to me the most important record on the album."

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.20533/title.nas-says-marvin-gaye-inspired-him-shares-hopes-to-marry-again

  

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553. "this last paragraph"
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hell yeah




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506. "Congrats to Nas on a dope ass album!"
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Only track I could do without is the Swiss Beats one so I swapped it for Nasty. Now it's 14 tracks in a row that bang

I like how he kept guest appearances to a minimum and got a bangin batch of beats together pretty much from front to back.

Dope (and cohesive) beats + dope rhymes. That's the formula right there

  

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512. "Anyone else notice Nas' lisp"
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on "Reach Out"?

Is he wearing dentistry? It sounds intentional.

  

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563. "Maybe they..."
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popped the cap off his chipped tooth for that shit. It sounds like the type of shit Nas would have been spitting over in the late 80's with that Isaac Hayes sample.

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513. "this album is very good"
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classic, hungry nas over some really good beats. i wanted to let it soak in before i posted about it.

keepers:

no intro
locomotive
queens story
daughters
back when
the don
stay
cherry wine
bye baby
nasty
roses
trust

songs i'm not sure about

all the rest. to be fair, there are a few i haven't given a proper shot to due to the rest of it being so good. if there are ones i didn't mention besides summer on smash, let me know if i'm missing out.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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514. "Where's the Love has emerged..."
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as a personal favorite over the last couple of days. Something about that beat drags me in and I love the Fauntleroy hook and Nas, as he does the entire album, rips it.

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534. "Black Band for me...got damn that joint is tough"
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515. "You Wouldn't Understand is one of the better songs, IMO"
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516. "Agree."
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518. "agreed i forgot to put that one on my keepers list"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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524. "man, that and reach out are my two hated songs"
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though nas is spitting heat on reach out, i hate both of those beats. even summer on smash doesn't ik me like those two. LOVE everything else tho

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528. "Anyone else think the album was mixed a bit poorly?"
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I like the album overall - give it an 8/10. There's a couple tracks I don't like at all (Summer on Smash) but outside of that a very solid album.

Is it me or do the vocals seem to high on the album, compared to the bet? Maybe it's just my ears.

  

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530. "Nas is the Greatest Rapper of All Time"
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I'm just sayin'

  

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554. "RE: Nas is the Greatest Rapper of All Time"
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...no doubt that this brother is up there...my top 5 all time, no real order...

1. Rakim
2. Black Thought
3. Nas
4. Pharoahe Monch
5. Doom

Peace is the word...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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555. "we got the same #1"
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1. rakim (and this will never change)
2. nas
3. jay z
4. black thought


passed that, the order changes from time to time.

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532. "lol @ this being better than IWW... "
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...half these songs are missing snares ... definitely some quality joints though

  

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533. "I didn't realize snares were the difference maker..."
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>...half these songs are missing snares ... definitely some
>quality joints though

...in determining whether one album is better than another.

Learn something new everyday!

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536. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyV2cPLuFuA"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyV2cPLuFuA

Brew, the criticism is reCOTdayumdiculous ... missing snares?!?!? tha fuk!

If only World's an Addiction had a baseline or The Black Bond had a hook. LOL

The album is crazy!


"Missing snares" <-- crazy talk

Challenger-

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537. "If 3 out of 18 = half then you need to go back to math class son"
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Fuck out of here with the bullshit criticism

  

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540. "Lol pipe down, I didn't say it was a bad record..."
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...but besides some beats with no snare, theres others that are petal soft. ..then u got that late 90s (swizz beats I'm assuming) DMX throwaway sounding shit that is absolutely brutal.

This album is like Gods Son to me, some real dope joints and some not so good ones too.. If u like the joints that I don't like, that's fine, we don't need to agree on it, lol...

  

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541. "I didn't say you did...I said your criticism was bullshit"
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>...but besides some beats with no snare, theres others that
>are petal soft. ..then u got that late 90s (swizz beats I'm
>assuming) DMX throwaway sounding shit that is absolutely
>brutal.
>

The problem is, your opinions on hip-hop are based on the theory of what you believe the genre has to sound like as opposed to the actual quality of the art form.

The fact you are discounting tracks because the are 'petal soft' hints at the fact that you feel as though hip-hop has to be 'hard' to be good.


>This album is like Gods Son to me, some real dope joints and
>some not so good ones too.. If u like the joints that I don't
>like, that's fine, we don't need to agree on it, lol...

People never need to agree on any music but your reasons for not liking something shouldn't be complete bullshit.

  

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542. "It isn't bullshit though..."
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If much of the appeal of Hip-Hop beats to you are that they knock and hit hard (which isn't an unatural opinion, at elast not for people who got into Hip-Hop in the "golden age" when soft beats frequently got dismissed as too pop or whatever), then that criticism is perfectly valid.

If a jazz-fan dismiss a jazz-album on the grounds of it being sloppy or a metal-fan dismiss a metal-album on the grounds of it being wimpy or a punk-fan dismiss a punk album on the grounds of it being too slick, would that be bullshit reasons too?

Now, if someone dismissed an ambient new age album on the basis of it not being "brutal" enough, *that* would be a bullshit reason because then that person are clearly listening to the wrong style of music and is trying to find something that isn't even supposed to be there.

However, "soft" beats isn't a prerequisite of Hip-Hop and therefore perfectly up for criticism, *especially* since so much of the genres classic music, at least prior to the late 90's, had pretty hard beats.

  

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545. "Hip-Hop has no rules"
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I nderstand not liking certain shit, but at the end of the day, judge the music for what it is, not what you want it to be.

Nothing is a prerequisite for hip-hop music which is wh I'm saying his criticism of the album because a few songs don't have snares is bullshit.

Where does it say that you need a snare for it to be hip-hop?

Hip-hop is about creativity and how you flip something, therefore the decision to rock without a snare very much is hip-hop because at some point (whoever was the first to do it) someone said, "fuck that shit, everyone is doing A so I'm going to do B" and that is what hip-hop is all about.

  

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547. "^^^ defender of snareless hip hop!!!"
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>I nderstand not liking certain shit, but at the end of the
>day, judge the music for what it is, not what you want it to
>be.
>Nothing is a prerequisite for hip-hop music which is wh I'm
>saying his criticism of the album because a few songs don't
>have snares is bullshit.
>Where does it say that you need a snare for it to be hip-hop?
>
>Hip-hop is about creativity and how you flip something,
>therefore the decision to rock without a snare very much is
>hip-hop because at some point (whoever was the first to do it)
>someone said, "fuck that shit, everyone is doing A so I'm
>going to do B" and that is what hip-hop is all


You ride hard for snareless rap songs.. I don't like them.. I never said it wasn't "hip hop", I'm saying they SUCK...

  

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551. "*face palm*"
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Nigga I'm FAST....*pyoon*
ARE YOU TRYING TO RACE?!

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558. "yet u seem to be setting rules against him stating his own preference"
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for the type of hip-hop he enjoys, which to me looks worse then him saying lack of snares was an issue for him regarding the production on this album.

  

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565. "I was actually just pointing out"
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How hip-hop fans exaggerate everything in order to make their point which tells me their point is lacking.

If he doesn't like hip-hop songs without snares that's fine, but to turn that into "half the songs don't have snares" is ridiculous when they pretty much all have a snare.

Its the same story every time. Nas will put one or two songs with a commercial appeal on his album and we get the idiots coming out the woodworks talking about, Nas suck, this album is terrible and he's trying to be commercial.

It's like Hip-hop fans are conditioned to look at the glass half empty as opposed to enjoying the positives.

There are a lot more positives about this record than negatives.

And fuck it, having this album drop while I was in the Bahamas makes me even like Summer On Smash. Hip-Hop fans also lack context. That song on the beach with women around works.

By if you listen from your moms basement, I can understand why you would shit on it.

Granted I don't want to hear it every time I play the album, but I get it.

  

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539. "might be #1 second week out as well"
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right now they're predicting 45-50K....but just wait until Cherrywine gets released as a single.

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543. ""can you imagine writing your deposition?"
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wit your lawyer saying how it's gonna be ending?

w/ you paying out the ass.
i'm talking half.
not some but half.







no serious, half."





that line was intense.

  

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544. "i love the scars line from locomotive"
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"nah really baby nas did this!"

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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552. "RE: "can you imagine writing your deposition?"
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Half of your soul
Half of your heart, you leaving behind
Its either that or die
I wanted peace of mind


love that verse.

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546. "it's a classic"
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quality rap right here.



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k0la
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550. "trust (itunes bonus track)...nas on that it was written/i am flow. dope..."
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on the low, this might be my favorite track on the album. and i got the deluxe cd, too...but damn i wish this track were on there.

http://slumz.boxden.com/f87/nas-trust-prod-boi-1da-bonus-track-off-life-good-1783746/.

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556. "Is the deluxe edition worth buying?"
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Really?

You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles


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557. "I don't see how you can't go w/ the deluxe"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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559. "yes. heck, i bought the collectors set"
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http://nas.shop.bravadousa.com/Product.aspx?cp=56961_57202&pc=BGCDNS03

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560. ""nasty" and "where's the love?" are definitely worth having."
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564. "need to get on record: i fucks with this"
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566. "I can see why NY cats would love this album... it's clearly written"
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for that listener

I can't say more than 4 songs are worth listening to. I got the deluxe version
and it didn't even make a difference. The production at BEST C+. Typical
Nas flow, so I won't grade that. Subject matter C-. Worst track goes
to Swizz Beatz. Best song imo, Accident Murderers... and you're fooling
yourself if you don't think Ross stole that song. NO ID had the better
tracks overall imo.

My main issue with the album are the recycled samples that we've heard
time and time again... especially from east coast producers. There's
nothing special about the production at all. Outside of Illmatic,
Nas' ear for music is not impressive... especially for a vet.


The grade for this post is D-... The Lesson's Nas stanery is never impressive

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568. "If nothing else is clear your ability to type while drunk is incredible!"
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Kudos - you typing Savant!

Get some rest champ, there's always tomorrow.

Challenger-

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569. "this nigga said subject matter c-. lol."
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>Best song imo, Accident Murderers... and
>you're fooling yourself if you don't think Ross stole that song.

Ross couldn't even stay on topic. Just basically recycled some generic "I'm a boss" lyrics he had on an old notepad somewhere.

To each is own though.

  

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570. "niggas like you don't even like illmatic...fuckin fraud"
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stop shielding your bullshit analysis with OBLIGATORY GARBAGE! i wish niggas like you would just man the fuck up and admit you don't even like the album that nas' entire mythos is based on.

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571. "I never denied Illmatic fam... it's still his best album, unfortunately."
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and stop getting all hissy about Nas

his overall discography is average as hell. This LP is par for
the course and you know it

now has he made some dope songs, of course, but how many dope albums?
maybe 2 or 3, and Life is Good ain't one of 'em. You burrough disciples
are still listening with your hearts and emotions and not your ears.

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572. "Explain yourself re: subject matter being C-, then"
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576. "let's just say this... 11 albums later, I see very little growth, if any"
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in this LP. It's just an album of rap songs to me.

In all fairness tho, I'd give most rappers a C- on subject matter

But it sounds like you're giving it an A+ in this category, which
is actually okay if you do. After listening to the album front
to back 3 times, I'm good. It actually is not a good album imo. But at
least I bought and listened to it. I don't feel I have to say I like
it to be a part of the OKP Nas ball-juggling club like most.

EDIT: Daughters and Bye Baby were dope because he allowed some
emotion to show... even tho Bye Baby was a lil to emo imo

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577. "this guys said the song was too emo."
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GTFOH.

if you could sing or rap you'd make a whole album about your wife divorcing your.

dog, get the fuck out the lesson FOREVER.

  

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578. "boy u just told me about myself... you should feel proud. um just"
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gonna sit my narrow ass down, cause you brought that heat

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579. "RE: let's just say this... 11 albums later, I see very little growth, if..."
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>in this LP. It's just an album of rap songs to me.
>
>In all fairness tho, I'd give most rappers a C- on subject
>matter

Ok - I guess that kind of explains it.

But as someone already pointed out, I do find it silly/strange/ironic that you claimed Rick Ross' verse to be the best part of the album, while simultaneously giving Nas' overall subject matter a C-. What would you give Rick Ross' career subject matter? A 0.0 GPA I hope.


>But it sounds like you're giving it an A+ in this category,
>which
>is actually okay if you do.

Putting words in my mouth. I'm not sure what I'd give it, but A+ is something I rarely would give out.

After listening to the album
>front
>to back 3 times, I'm good. It actually is not a good album
>imo. But at
>least I bought and listened to it. I don't feel I have to say
>I like
>it to be a part of the OKP Nas ball-juggling club like most.

Nobody said you did bruh. Relax. You posted your thoughts, it naturally sparked discussion. If you don't want discourse, stop posting.


>EDIT: Daughters and Bye Baby were dope because he allowed
>some
>emotion to show... even tho Bye Baby was a lil to emo imo

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580. "actually, this bullet was for basaglia... my bad lol"
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>After listening to the album
>>front
>>to back 3 times, I'm good. It actually is not a good album
>>imo. But at
>>least I bought and listened to it. I don't feel I have to
>say
>>I like
>>it to be a part of the OKP Nas ball-juggling club like most.
>
>Nobody said you did bruh. Relax. You posted your thoughts, it
>naturally sparked discussion. If you don't want discourse,
>stop posting.

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573. "do you like illmatic? what's so great about it? i'd like to know."
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i'm telling you flat out that i don't believe you like it and you're afraid if you reveal that no one will take your opinion seriously.

don't be mad. there are PLENTY of people like you. i believe that a rack of people who believe nas' career output has been "average" haven't listened to illmatic more than a handful of times and just ACCEPT that it's good because they're afraid of being clowned. so, you come with this regurgitated BS "well, other than illmatic..."

well, other than illmatic, he released ANOTHER of the best hip-hop albums of that decade two years later. i mean, OTHER than that...*shrug*

you SHOULD be afraid of being clowned for dismissing it was written as average, but SOMEHOW that's acceptable in recent years.

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574. "okay..."
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Thu Aug-30-12 04:17 PM by kysersozey

  

          

RE: do you like illmatic? yes... and i owned the tape when it dropped
and CD years later


what's so great about it? in a nutshell... I was the typical boom bap cat.
Because I believed Premier walked on water back then, the production
was stellar imo. In fact, it was NY State of mind that made me buy
the tape... still my favorite song on that album. From a lyrical standpoint,
I actually never believed no one would come close to Rakim... he did.
I could go on, but you the message.




>i'm telling you flat out that i don't believe you like it and
>you're afraid if you reveal that no one will take your opinion
>seriously.

2 things... stop blowing yourself, and if you believe after all the
years I've been posting on OKP that ---->I<------ need y'all to take ME seriosly, you haven't read any of my post. I'm prolly the least
scared nigga on OKP, because I've NEVER shied away from discourse. I
don't feel the need to soften my opinions for anyone. You may not
like my opinion, but you'll get it. Remember, I'm the one of the few,
that disagreed with ?uest about Dilla. And it's not because Dilla
hasn't made some outstanding music, but because, overall he's just okay--> TO ME

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>don't be mad. there are PLENTY of people like you. i believe
>that a rack of people who believe nas' career output has been
>"average" haven't listened to illmatic more than a handful of
>times and just ACCEPT that it's good because they're afraid of
>being clowned. so, you come with this regurgitated BS "well,
>other than illmatic..."

Well those people are afraid to say what they hear doesn't resonate
with them . I'm not that cat... AT ALL. Just cause Illmatic was classic
doesn't mean everything after is.

>
>well, other than illmatic, he released ANOTHER of the best
>hip-hop albums of that decade two years later. i mean, OTHER
>than that...*shrug*

I agree... Illmatic, It Was Written, and Stillmatic are my favs--> remember when cats was saying IWW was to radio... I NEVER felt that way--> Why? bcuz I know what I like. I essentially said above he had 1 classic and 2 good albums... that's really it.

I think the real truth here is, YOU'RE afraid to admit when Nas has
fallen short. In fact, this reminds of cats who try to convince everyone
that Life after Death is just as good as Ready To Die, simply becuz
it's Biggie

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Oak27
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567. "Why is the Swizz song getting more hate than that dreadful MJB track?"
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I mean, at least the Swizz joint serves a purpose (summer club anthem). That Mary track is just plain terrible with no reason to have left the studio it was unfortunately recorded in.

Really like the album as a whole though, but like most, I have my own, trimmed, resequenced version.

  

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