the funniest shit ever in rap?

like, back in the day, if someone was rhyming over "Beauty Spa Waiting Room" beats it would be trolling to get you to laugh at it

shit sound like the 22nd track in the mixing board of a Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis slow jam about falling rain from 1988


and then they mix drums that sounded like they were recorded 2 rooms down the hall on it

shit is the other extreme of a Lex Luger banger, and it is HIGHLARIOUS.

inspired by the newest Drake song, "Club Paradise" (like you didn't know)

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The soft synths and half hearted electro drums are the weakest ever. I think there should be a line drawn as to what is acceptable to be labeled hip hop. That being said...the commercialization of hip hop and subsequent sterilization have killed off the things that people got drawn to in the first place. Where is the originality? Even so called underground dudes are dickriding the soft synth pads trend, too. Where's the next Wu Tang?

Its kind of funny how many things that were frowned upon are also the dopest thing ever. Skinny Jeans and neon 80s glasses. The hell?

like, I'm almost tempted to make a playlist of this Jack Handey "Deep Thoughts" Rap.

This is almost like a subgenre unto itself. Who started this trend? Drake? Cudi?

>The soft synths and half hearted electro drums are the
>weakest ever. I think there should be a line drawn as to what
>is acceptable to be labeled hip hop. That being said...the
>commercialization of hip hop and subsequent sterilization have
>killed off the things that people got drawn to in the first
>place. Where is the originality? Even so called underground
>dudes are dickriding the soft synth pads trend, too. Where's
>the next Wu Tang?
>

Sonically speaking, this is what I prefer Drake to be featured over.

Not everything has to have a harder edge, especially for an artist whose style is tailored for this kind of production.

Fuck your myopic view on what should be considered hip-hop. Those set parameters you're desperately seeking is part of the reason the genre has become dull and predictable.

There are plenty of different styles out there for you to consume. If this particular one doesn't appeal to your sensibilities move on to the next, but gtfoh trying to discredit it and draw lines in the sand.

You're crying about originality and setting limitations in the same breath.

Btw, maybe you should learn more about other genres of music before you attempt to label something. There is nothing electro about this.

(and perhaps I should have called it out in the opening post; I don't hate this kind of rap as much as I find it funny as hell)

it's what kind of sounds are shaping rap nowadays that just make me laugh. Before, you might hear a soundscape like this retrofitted into a rap template (and in the case of "How To Love", it certainly is). The "airy" sound is actually put in front (hence the "drums recorded down the hall" comment).

I think what makes me laugh the most is how, once upon a time, this would have been prime trolling material. Like, this is what people would listen to, and in the same breath say "I don't listen to rap music/rap is crap".

Ironically, in my "myopic view", I am not advocating the specific sounds of originally hip hop, but moreso the spirit of innovation and originality. All the rhyme patterns/cadences and art of sampling/production techniques were built upon and advanced through innovative dudes and an enviroment that encouraged originality. It shunned "biting" and people earned stripes by displaying things that were difficult to do. The more money thats become involved, the less this environment exists.

I'm not looking for carbon copies of Wu, I'm just looking for someone that is as exciting as when they came on the scene.

Sorry, but there aren't many folks out today that you could say are doing something new. The ones that aren't don't get rewarded financially. Btw, what's not dull and predictable about the production on Drake's songs? In 10 years are people going to reminisce about his songs like they are classics?

you're like my evil twin

and i despise the shortening of "electronic" to "electro"

>Fuck your myopic view on what should be considered hip-hop.
>Those set parameters you're desperately seeking is part of the
>reason the genre has become dull and predictable.
>

The whole idea that music gets better if everything is possible and there are no limits to the imagination and blah-blah I don't believe at all; if anything, artists/genres who put themselves in a rigid box with defined parameters are more likely to do better stuff because they have to work harder to stand out. Being "original" and/or developing a personal style becomes far more difficult and challenging...

>The whole idea that music gets better if everything is
>possible and there are no limits to the imagination and
>blah-blah I don't believe at all; if anything, artists/genres
>who put themselves in a rigid box with defined parameters are
>more likely to do better stuff because they have to work
>harder to stand out. Being "original" and/or developing a
>personal style becomes far more difficult and challenging...

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to reign the "uber-artsy" artist wanting to put any and every idea in to a song whether it worked or not.

I've always been very outspoken against this notion that everything needs to be about "Freedom, freedom, maaaaaaan!" and that's why certain people in the Lesson are always accusing me of "trying to put Black music in a box."

I don't know if I believe in putting music in a box, per say... but I do feel there should be walls. And there definitely has to be a solid floor to stand on. (The roof can be open...)

Because when there are no boundaries, there are no limits and no parameters. And as a result, there are no standards because EVERYTHING is acceptable. How can you judge what is good or bad, what's working or not working if all that matters is that the artist is expressing himself "freely"? If you work by that standard, then a record of an artist farting into the microphone is just as good as Ellington as long as the artist is expressing himself "freely" and "honestly."

I always like to use the description Branford Marsalis used when talking about Miles Davis's high electric period: "It's like playing tennis without a net."

Art needs structure and it needs boundaries in order to be truly creative. Because creativity is fostered by how you are able to get the best you can out of limited means, not boundless freedom.

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as a wise man (well, several) said

its said mostly about society but i think it works for music too

...For example, I like the soundtrack to New York Eye and ear control with Albert Ayler, Don Cherry, John Tchicai etc. and that one was supposedly totally free.

However, I think that even in the context of free/avantgarde stuff, the best stuff is stuff that has clear boundaries; if I would make a list of my favorite records in that vein, most/all would be stuff that is fairly controlled and "inside the box" even if the box in some cases is defined by the musician-Cecil Taylor may be objectively outside the box but he firmly stays within the box he established for himself decades ago; he's about as diverse as AC/DC or someone...

a lot of the great music of the past 20-30 years has actually come from people who didnt know 'the rules', and as they didnt know them, they didnt care what they did lol. eg - timbaland, dizzee rascal, etc. i could of course be underestimating their knowledge of the rules but someone like timbo said in various interviews he was scared of learning theory or getting too knowledgeable in that dept in case it depleted his natural ideas. im divided between whether this makes him in fact more limited or more clever.

...especially when a general understanding of established rules is required for the success of real-world projects. This is delving more into the commercial side of things though...

I concur with your line of thought as an approach to certain genres of music.

People often just look at the specific genre rather than at the contemporary (popular) music world as a whole. Is it wrong of me to say that popular contemporary pop, R&B, hip-Hop (and dancehall for that matter) sound FAR more similar to eachother than 20 years ago? If development just leads to a streamlining of every other genre so that everything sounds like "electronic music" in this case, that's not really positive is it? Shit, even the rock a lot of people praise is music that is done with the studio as an instrument and produced in the manner of "electronic music".

you could argue that it requires a more sophisticated, or discerning ear now to be able to tell the similar strands apart, that as the differences arent so glaring now, you need a subtler way of hearing to spot/appreciate the differences, that the genres are actually as similar as they are different, so you cant write it all off as one big piece of hegemony. or maybe thats just making excuses.

...is that you pretty much have to accept it on its own terms unless you want to play it safe and listen to the genre-bending acts that fit your "general" aesthetics. I don't think you really need to do that anymore with this stuff; the radio-pop fan can really not be offended by Hip-Hop beats or even rapping anymore just like a rap-fan who dig, say, Drake and Kid Cudi, can't really be offended by the "gayness" and softness of pop.

Shit, swedish commercial radio-stations play all these types of music together like it was nothing; 20 years ago, the only Hip-Hop they MIGHT have been able to play was stuff that was dismissed in most Hip-Hop circles.

Basically, by the musicians opening their minds, their music is paradoxically becoming less unique and special and more part of a general mainstream aesthetic (to be fair, one could say that about Roots or even Outkast as well but I think there is a big difference still); same with what happened to jazz with fusion or metal after grunge and nu-metal...

>the funniest shit ever in rap?
>
>like, back in the day, if someone was rhyming over "Beauty Spa
>Waiting Room" beats it would be trolling to get you to laugh
>at it
>
>shit sound like the 22nd track in the mixing board of a Jimmy
>Jam and Terry Lewis slow jam about falling rain from 1988
>
>
>and then they mix drums that sounded like they were recorded 2
>rooms down the hall on it
>
>shit is the other extreme of a Lex Luger banger, and it is
>HIGHLARIOUS.

Such a brilliant stream of colorful and accurate descriptions!

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Leather In The Summer.
Silk In The Winter.


Twice upon a time,
there was a boy who died...
And lived happily ever after...

But that's another chapter...

Do you like the 'Baby Powder Beats'?

Too easy.

for that shit with that album
those were the softest jazziest beats
hip hop had heard at that time
you can trace 40's production back to bein' influenced
by that lp

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i really believe this soft baby powder shit can be traced back to this lp
it came out in 93
all the other acts came out hard and rugged
tribe came out soft, jazzy and not hard
their beats sounded like elevator music to me compared to what came out

they opened that lane for that different shit
then pm dawn came out and ran with it
and all those other alternative music soundin' hip hop acts
but tribe opened that lane
they took it further then de la

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He had some seriously downy ultra soft stuff that predated 93.

why not trace it back to its true heritage with LL Cool J's "I Need Love"? that old soft shit.

there's no way that garbo that i just listened to by Eyebrow Aubrey is directly descendant (sp?) of Midnight Marauders.

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Which in turn is a direct descendant of Tribe. I think the key difference is Tribe's "soft" shit always had great drums.

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His constantly mentioning Primo and Pete Rock in interviews doesn't eradicate the fluffiness of his production.

>they opened that lane for that different shit
>then pm dawn came out and ran with it
>and all those other alternative music soundin' hip hop acts
>but tribe opened that lane
>they took it further then de la

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NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
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Jordan!

i kept waiting for the beat to drop.

LOL

horrible.

fuck you.

...and no those pulsating sounds isn't a kick, I'm tired of rappers rapping over beats like this, I do however love the ambiance sounds of the track but it just sounds like another unfinished beat or a reprise to an r&b song.

This all goes back to that post I made about six months ago: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2464690 SMH

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what about shabazz palaces? theres still hard shit out there...but i also like diversity in hip hop so these ambient-hop beats are a welcome addition...personally i can't see myself bumping statik selektah beats 24/7

...or some nice bottom-end (yeah I love my bass & 808) to it then it would be a totally different situation but the majority of these drumless songs with a ton of ambient sounds usually just seem like a half-done songs, even jazz artists would add more of a backing rhythm to these joints than what these rappers are spitting over' c'mon at least give me a complex swing of hihats to let me nod my head to.

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people who enjoy this kind of stuff wheter you like it or not

I meant that the grade of the current SOFT shit in hip-hop is freakin' hilarious

hip-hop's in its yacht rock stage, we're done with disco

or do i have a false memory?

fuck you.

like, there was a time when Hip-Hop was funky.

funk was replaced w/what?

how'd we get here?

fuck you.

By "people" I mean artists, record executives, and non-music corporate executives who saw the money-making potential but did not like the association with funk (or a certain style of blackness).

after hearing that baby powder/beauty spa waiting room rap.

btw, Doc hit it out the park w/'beauty spa waiting room'. lol and i dunno if 'baby powder' is his, but that's perfect too.

fuck you.

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i mean funky drums, period. i can't remember when non-funky rhythm patterns became so common.

fuck you.

for better/worse

so blame him

and that was a long time ago now....

im 34. 2 kids, mortgage, multiple mistakes.

sometimes hell MOST of the time i really have no desire to hear some loud bass heavy song abt killing someone or copping rims sung by some hysterical teenager whose every other word is nigga, bitch or *gunshot sound*

i dig the gray area dude raps abt. i dig the softer more orchestral soundtrack too. its NPR rap.

you aint feeling it thats fine too




do or die

LOL

not at all.

fuck you.

stop the games


do or die

don't think b/c i'm gay that i'm into this weak sauce.

hell no. you won't find a single Drake anything in my possession.

fuck you.

put it like this...u roughly my age

you MUST listen to either waka flocka or drake.

which do you pick. right this instant

u a lie if u say waka flocka


do or die

real talk...i don't own a single track by either.

i haven't heard an entire Waka Flocka song. i have heard a few Drake songs in their entirety.

so, Drake? i guess? b/c his shit makes me change the channel/close my browser w/less swiftness than Waka's shit?

fuck you.

it's a dumbed down sound for the short attention spanned youth who need their music as accessible as possible

put a kick & a snare in that bitch. hi hats are optional at this point.

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...Stevie Wonder's "Visions," while you're at it.

That explains the soft as drums and the light notes.

Is little "Marvin's room" adjacent to yours?

And you just put him to bed?

lol old nigga rap lol

get your boy Doc.

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do or die

....and aint no way in HELL do i want to ever hear some of this petal soft, care bear type beats you're hyping up in this post ....everyone i know thats in a similar place in their life says the same

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