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"aural proof that mardi gras exists without the bells"


  

          

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Interesting.
May 31st 2012
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RE: But, like it says in that write up. . .
May 31st 2012
2
did you hear it? ain't that much altering in the world
May 31st 2012
3
      RE: Just playing Devil's Advocate.
May 31st 2012
4
      turn your speakers up and listen to it again
Jun 10th 2012
8
           RE: turn your speakers up and listen to it again
Jun 10th 2012
9
           I was waiting for this response
Jun 11th 2012
12
Dope.
May 31st 2012
5
update: it exists. proof
Jun 10th 2012
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RE: update: it exists. proof
Jun 10th 2012
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the theory
Jun 10th 2012
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this is the biggest L you've ever taken on this stie
Jun 11th 2012
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how is it an L? i ain't write the article, and haven't listened past the
Jun 11th 2012
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      lemme show you how its an L
Jun 11th 2012
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           sure pally. hope u take ur life as serious as u do this internet thing
Jun 11th 2012
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                I said it was an L, not a big deal
Jun 11th 2012
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                     k
Jun 11th 2012
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Thought this would be about Biz Markie talking about it on Juan Epstein
Jun 12th 2012
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but let them tell it, it's an L
Jun 12th 2012
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redemtion, bitches: link
Jun 22nd 2012
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As I stated elsewhere, the "bells" are still in there
Jun 22nd 2012
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good enough for me. argument wasn't whether how clean it was
Jun 22nd 2012
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      the argument was does the RECORD exist, and it doesn't
Jun 22nd 2012
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           if the record doesn't exist, then how are they playin' it without the be...
Jun 22nd 2012
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                if it existed without the bells it wouldn't need to be panned
Jun 23rd 2012
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                     is there? let me get a copy!
Jun 23rd 2012
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                          5o bucks, my cocksman
Jun 23rd 2012
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that "version" removed damn near all of Bob's keyboards.
Jun 24th 2012
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      "TV" makes me think backing track for some kind of
Jun 24th 2012
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further proof, plus the plot thickens....backward bell version exists!
Jun 29th 2012
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RE: See, now this strikes me as fake right away.
Jun 29th 2012
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      of course he's lying, it's all made up
Jun 30th 2012
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bells bells bells bells BELLS
Jun 29th 2012
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Biz is lyin.
Jun 29th 2012
33
Is that how Dilla removed the vocals from Love From the Sun?
Jun 29th 2012
34
      no that's filtering and panning
Jun 29th 2012
35
ARCHIVE
Jun 29th 2012
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1. "Interesting."
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Thanks for sharing this.

I guess all your posts aren't 100% whack

  

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2. "RE: But, like it says in that write up. . ."
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. . .that's a possibly altered version. So we may never know.

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3. "did you hear it? ain't that much altering in the world"
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4. "RE: Just playing Devil's Advocate."
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http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g212/nicoleavila75/devils_advocate.jpg

I mean, it sounds close enough for me, but like I said, we may never get an actual confirmation that the record physically exists.

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8. "turn your speakers up and listen to it again"
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you can clearly hear parts of the bells in between the drums
this was panned and processed in a computer
besides that where did all the echo on the snare drum go?
its muted quite a bit in the clip
cmon block, aren't you a producer?

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9. "RE: turn your speakers up and listen to it again"
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>cmon block, aren't you a producer?

lol

  

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12. "I was waiting for this response"
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You can hear it pretty clearly if you pay close attention.

It just doesn't exist. Quite honestly, I'm surprised anyone believes anything Biz says. He's been stretching the truth on this for a while.

>you can clearly hear parts of the bells in between the drums
>this was panned and processed in a computer
>besides that where did all the echo on the snare drum go?
>its muted quite a bit in the clip
>cmon block, aren't you a producer?

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5. "Dope."
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6. "update: it exists. proof"
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http://fleamarketfunk.com/2012/06/08/update-mystery-of-the-mardi-gras-bells-solved/

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7. "RE: update: it exists. proof"
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read the comments...

its a fake

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10. "the theory "
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that this record might be the one of the channels isolated on a stereo mix of the song might hold up. I know this is something beatmakers often do to get a different/isolated mix or a "clean" break. I don't have the vinyl of BJ2 or the 12" of this song, but I tried it out on WAV ripped from the remastered CD and I got something similar just by playing the right channel. You can still hear some of the bells on that side though.

Premier did this in "2nd Childhood" (you can hear "bits" of the guitar lick in what was sampled, but on the actual record, it's different).

I know there's another example of this... I want to say Erick Sermon did that on "It's That Hit". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY-NmL_SKIc

That whole note on the Rhodes they play after the easily isolated part of that break, I don't know where that is on the record. Maybe it was down-pitched to match the rest.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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11. "this is the biggest L you've ever taken on this stie"
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as long as I've been posting
ARCHIVE THIS SHIT

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13. "how is it an L? i ain't write the article, and haven't listened past the"
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initial time
i just post the swipes
i'm not takin' this personal
so why are you?

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14. "lemme show you how its an L"
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-you started this thread with 'proof' the song exists
-then posted another link with the song in it, which turned out to be false
-said that there's no way that part was manipulated by computer when its clear to even non-producers that it's been treated

that's pretty much an L, fam

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15. "sure pally. hope u take ur life as serious as u do this internet thing"
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16. "I said it was an L, not a big deal"
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17. "k"
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18. "Thought this would be about Biz Markie talking about it on Juan Epstein"
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To paraphrase, he says it starts without the bells, then they kick in.

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19. "but let them tell it, it's an L"
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all i said
was that it exists without the bells
and you can hear it
the drums without the bells
i ain't say there was a record
where it was recorded without the bells
or you ain't have to pan left or right or filter
or whatever
i just said, hey, somebody posted proof that it
exists without the bells

now niggas is goin' in with microscopic hearin' aids
and sayin' "oh, you can faintly hear remnants of the bells
and blahblahblah"
nigga whatever
i don't hear no bells
maybe i'm deaf, could be. oh well for me

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20. "redemtion, bitches: link"
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http://www.egotripland.com/bob-james-take-me-to-the-mardi-gras-without-bells/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7lqu2b5L65U

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21. "As I stated elsewhere, the "bells" are still in there"
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It fluctuates, but you can still hear it, not only in the video playing the tape, but the direct feed of the tape.

If that has truly been what people have been going crazy for, then I'm sorry. That's the cleanest that break has been, but you still hear it.

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22. "good enough for me. argument wasn't whether how clean it was"
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but that it exists without the bells prominent

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23. "the argument was does the RECORD exist, and it doesn't"
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24. "if the record doesn't exist, then how are they playin' it without the be..."
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oh, it exists, that's how

sure, you'll counter, they panned it

okay, cool
that means it exists then
i don't recall anybody ever arguin' about whether or not
you had to pan or not pan to hear it without the bells

a technicality? sure
but it works
so, take that L and carry on

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25. "if it existed without the bells it wouldn't need to be panned"
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he could just play the record without having to make Serato files for it
there is no pressing of Mardi Gras on wax without the bells, bottom line
anybody with two good ears can hear bells all over that break, what are you even arguing at this point?
I guess now I can take all my old wax and pan th' fuck out it and say I got the shit because I panned and processed it, so yeah there's a version of SuperFly that doesn't have vocals

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26. "is there? let me get a copy!"
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so
>yeah there's a version of SuperFly that doesn't have vocals

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27. "5o bucks, my cocksman"
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28. "that "version" removed damn near all of Bob's keyboards."
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yeah, the drums sound aiight, but this is a clear alteration of the song.

SMH. what the hell is this?

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29. ""TV" makes me think backing track for some kind of"
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tv performance

  

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30. "further proof, plus the plot thickens....backward bell version exists!"
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http://www.egotripland.com/bob-james-mardi-gras-backwards-bells/#more-10272

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31. "RE: See, now this strikes me as fake right away."
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The unnecessarily detailed backstory, not actually showing the record (I mean, if you want to settle something once and for all, SETTLE it). . . yeah, this doesn't seem very trustworthy.

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37. "of course he's lying, it's all made up"
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if Biz had it he could've played Gras instead of all the Serato shit he did

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32. "bells bells bells bells BELLS"
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Am I the only one who thinks the word "bells" now sounds funny after all the repeated usage?

It even looks weird now............bells.

Bells......

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33. "Biz is lyin."
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as to whether or not he owns a Bell-less "Mardi Gras" 12 inch the answer is NO.

what did he do to prove otherwise?

he "phased" out the bells (studio trickery)

that's all

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34. "Is that how Dilla removed the vocals from Love From the Sun?"
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For worlds full of sadness?

  

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35. "no that's filtering and panning"
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36. "ARCHIVE"
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