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"Era's in Hip Hop History You Just CAN'T Clap To"


  

          

for instance...

I just can't stomach the "RUFF RYDERS/SWIZZ BEATS" era of hip hop.

I can't. Them Casio sounding beats is just the antithesis of what made me love hip hop.

I love crate diggers. If well executed, i can deal with live band/more organic hip hop. Shit...I can respect just a drum track a la "Grindin"....

But that Casio shit? BROTHER J SAYS YUCK!!!

So...as a result...I've never owned an Eve/DMX/Lox album. All I know of them I either heard in the club or when I used to watch videos.

anyone else?

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Subject Author Message Date ID
The Master P-No Limit Era
Jan 23rd 2011
1
I Agree
Jan 23rd 2011
18
say what you want...Three 6 Mafia got TRACKS
Jan 23rd 2011
22
      Not really, KLC was a beast for
Jan 25th 2011
76
           KLC was my favorite for a minute!!!!!
Jan 25th 2011
103
Nostalgia plays a part for me in this one
Jan 24th 2011
71
True. But I still got love for Mystikal.
Jan 24th 2011
72
Yup, I was so glad when Cash Money took over...
Jan 26th 2011
111
The Post Pac and Big era
Jan 23rd 2011
2
this one we in now
Jan 23rd 2011
3
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 23rd 2011
10
real talk.
Jan 23rd 2011
14
aka The "Music to appraise the females only" era
Jan 23rd 2011
21
Word
Jan 23rd 2011
27
Beat me to it.
Jan 24th 2011
37
<end muhfuckin post>
Jan 24th 2011
39
^^say word
Jan 24th 2011
46
PREEEACH!
Jan 26th 2011
109
That was the last gasp of quality street-level New York rap
Jan 23rd 2011
4
that "Jiggy, suit wearing, VIP, Bottle Service" era.
Jan 23rd 2011
5
that era never ended lol
Jan 23rd 2011
19
Was bottle service even out back then?
Jan 24th 2011
31
the "9 MC's in Carhartt jackets screaming at me" era
Jan 23rd 2011
6
The "New York Is Hard, Too!" era
Jan 23rd 2011
7
Hell yeah. Yeah I'm biased but eff that era and Horrorcore LOL
Jan 24th 2011
32
RE: Hell yeah. Yeah I'm biased but eff that era and Horrorcore LOL
Jan 25th 2011
99
examples plz
Jan 24th 2011
33
word, i'm like wtf is he talkin bout
Jan 24th 2011
59
A few examples:
Jan 24th 2011
67
      Brand Nubian was a glaring example/my first thought.
Jan 24th 2011
70
      Seriously, even Run DMC's shit. They gotta know what you mean
Jan 24th 2011
74
      Yeah, Run DMC's Down With the King was the epitome
Jan 25th 2011
79
           LOL at UMC's transformation.
Jan 26th 2011
112
      Or this?
Jan 24th 2011
75
      In God We Trust > One For All
Jan 25th 2011
78
      whoa, I never thought about Brand Nubian like that
Jan 25th 2011
86
      in fairness, EPMD was shooting vids in sewers dating back to '89
Jan 25th 2011
93
      LOL
Jan 25th 2011
95
      I'm saying, and shooting videos at shooting ranges
Jan 25th 2011
97
      RE: A few examples:
Jan 25th 2011
98
A lot of great music came out of that though...
Jan 26th 2011
114
Trap Rap
Jan 23rd 2011
8
The "Collabo" era
Jan 23rd 2011
9
if you see the word "Featuring" on more than 3 tracks? Trash it.
Jan 23rd 2011
11
I personally prefer less guests but you'd trash a lot of classics if 3 w...
Jan 23rd 2011
23
best one yet. can we count collaborating w/a gang of producers too?
Jan 23rd 2011
12
hell yeah! more than five producers on an album is too much
Jan 23rd 2011
13
amen.
Jan 23rd 2011
15
I think The Blueprint & Supreme Clientele would like a word with you
Jan 25th 2011
77
      RE: I think The Blueprint & Supreme Clientele would like a word with you
Jan 25th 2011
80
:(
Jan 23rd 2011
17
make me see your point.
Jan 24th 2011
54
another era that's still not over.
Jan 23rd 2011
24
Yeah, that shit drives me fucking bananas
Jan 23rd 2011
30
Yeah, that was the worst.
Jan 23rd 2011
16
forced ass collabos too
Jan 23rd 2011
20
actually THIS is the line I'd draw in the sand
Jan 24th 2011
48
      exactly
Jan 24th 2011
63
Didn't that era start with Death Row and Wu-Tang?
Jan 23rd 2011
25
Both Wu-Tang and Master P were pretty much to blame for that
Jan 23rd 2011
29
RE: The "Collabo" era aka the No Limit Era...
Jan 24th 2011
62
RE: Era's in Hip Hop History You Just CAN'T Snap To
Jan 23rd 2011
26
i *JUST* caught what you did there. LOL.
Jan 24th 2011
57
      I call it..."Leaving a duffle bag in Times Square"
Jan 24th 2011
64
Haha I remember playing a DJ S&amp;S podcast in my Jeep and
Jan 23rd 2011
28
lol so what kinda hip hop do yall niggas like.
Jan 24th 2011
34
like you're one to talk
Jan 24th 2011
35
88' - 95'
Jan 24th 2011
36
pretty much
Jan 24th 2011
41
hope yall niggas got a time machine then
Jan 24th 2011
51
notice he didn't deny the Kanye pube sheddings accusation
Jan 24th 2011
61
      LMAO!
Jan 24th 2011
68
      LOLOL
Jan 25th 2011
82
      lol
Jan 25th 2011
83
      LOL
Jan 25th 2011
96
      #dead
Jan 26th 2011
110
RE: 88' - 95'
Jan 25th 2011
100
hahahhahahaha
Jan 24th 2011
73
      LOVE the avy, my cocksman
Jan 25th 2011
81
88- to 04
Jan 24th 2011
66
they all seemed to take prominence around 1997 or so
Jan 24th 2011
38
RE: they all seemed to take prominence around 1997 or so
Jan 24th 2011
40
      i know exactly what he means by it
Jan 24th 2011
42
           RE: i know exactly what he means by it
Jan 24th 2011
43
                look up Ed Hardy and it'll make sense, I promise
Jan 24th 2011
44
                     RE: look up Ed Hardy and it'll make sense, I promise
Jan 24th 2011
45
                          LOL, that was the song I was thinking about....
Jan 24th 2011
47
                               RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about....
Jan 24th 2011
49
                                    RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about....
Jan 24th 2011
50
                                    I'm thinking it's more of the content than the music
Jan 24th 2011
52
                                         RE: I'm thinking it's more of the content than the music
Jan 24th 2011
53
                                    RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about....
Jan 24th 2011
65
                                         RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about....
Jan 24th 2011
69
                                              keyword - "thought"
Jan 26th 2011
116
I'm with you 110%
Jan 24th 2011
55
RE: Era's in Hip Hop History You Just CAN'T Clap To
Jan 24th 2011
56
The funny thing is he was one of the catalysts behind
Jan 24th 2011
58
The Puff Daddy and Ma$e shiny suit/jiggy era.
Jan 24th 2011
60
eras? no. artists? sure: pm dawn rise, smylez & southstar,
Jan 25th 2011
84
&amp;quot;We get so live! (E-VOOL!), Live! (E-VOOL!)...
Jan 25th 2011
85
That was really a retarded movement back then.
Jan 25th 2011
102
yeah, really... I liked Gravediggaz because it seemed like a joke
Jan 26th 2011
104
polka dots
Jan 25th 2011
87
Awww Damn...I had maaaaad polka dot short sets too...lol
Jan 25th 2011
88
I never could get into Kwame like that back in the day.
Jan 25th 2011
101
      It's funny cuz I don't even remember that nigga
Jan 28th 2011
119
The DIY/Digital/Indie/Fruity Loops/Youtube/Worldstar era
Jan 25th 2011
89
Hmm, that's a good point
Jan 26th 2011
105
X's 1st album had one Swizz beat
Jan 25th 2011
90
Who gives a fuck? The beats sucked and still do.
Jan 25th 2011
91
They didn't and still don't
Jan 25th 2011
92
DMX's albums were always iffy to me....
Jan 26th 2011
115
      I feel you...
Jan 26th 2011
118
I can't say I hated the Superproducer era, but it did a lot of harm
Jan 25th 2011
94
is it weird that an officially 30-40 y.o. art form has so many "eras"? n...
Jan 26th 2011
106
No, because it's "Hip"-Hop. Naturally it's supposed to be current.
Jan 26th 2011
107
Wrong spot/but I co-sign Horrorcore.
Jan 26th 2011
108
Post-Biggie Bad Boy
Jan 26th 2011
113
The whole gangsta thug era
Jan 26th 2011
117

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1. "The Master P-No Limit Era"
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Back when they were REAL heavy with the Pin and Pixel covers.

Just couldn't clap to em. Now...don't get me wrong...Mia X had a special place in my heart...plus she look like she can cook a MEAN batch of gumbo, ya dig?

But as a whole?

I felt Cash Money (and Three 6 Mafia) executed it better...

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18. "I Agree"
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>I felt Cash Money (and Three 6 Mafia) executed it better...

This part I don't agree with .


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22. "say what you want...Three 6 Mafia got TRACKS"
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musically, they are miles ahead of their genre's contemporaries.

Lyrically...notsomuch

D

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76. "Not really, KLC was a beast for"
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beats by the pound, they just suffered from Master P, silk and c murder being all over everything and u couldn't ignore how bad they were. Take a listen to Fiend's streetlife KlC on par with Manny and three six. Three six didn't get the props they deserved on the production end, lil jon came thru and stole all they thunder and got all the props even tho i think they did it better.

  

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103. "KLC was my favorite for a minute!!!!!"
In response to Reply # 76
Tue Jan-25-11 11:18 PM by -DJ R-Tistic-

  

          

F'k them other niggs alone makes him great, but he had a grip of songs I loved back then. I liked that simple hard bass, 70-something BPM, simple piano on top formula. It inspired tracks like "Lemonade"

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71. "Nostalgia plays a part for me in this one"
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I was in like 5th grade when "Make Em Say Ugh" came out lol. Was bad as fuck to me back then. When I try and go back and listen to the albums, with the exception of Ghetto D (and nostalgia plays a part there too) I find them hard to listen to.

I still think "Hoody Hoo" is undeniable though, I can listen to that anytime ha.

  

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72. "True. But I still got love for Mystikal."
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111. "Yup, I was so glad when Cash Money took over..."
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NL had it's moments every now and then, but was mostly garbage. And I wasn't on KLC's beats like that either.

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2. "The Post Pac and Big era"
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More mad at myself than anything. I can't believe we fell for that shit. East Coast v West Coast. So f'in ignorant, and nobody really got hip to it until we lost two of the GOAT.

I missed out on alot of great music. I was so East Coast biased, I even stopped buying Pac's music. I'm still catching up

But the void those two left in the game is so obvious. Big would have just shut 50 down, and J would have always been just his hype man. Pac would have been shutting down careers two. In the end, we lost

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3. "this one we in now"
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10. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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only with the majors though, still some good people coming up and others that have been out making dope music.

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14. "real talk."
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21. "aka The "Music to appraise the females only" era"
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http://soundcloud.com/deemack1

  

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27. "Word"
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37. "Beat me to it."
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I was gonna say at least the mainstream aspect of things. Just can't get with it. It's so mass-produced and boring. The last 3 or 4 years have been brutal. Just one awful trend followd by another.

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39. "<end muhfuckin post>"
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46. "^^say word"
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I just can't do it anymore

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109. "PREEEACH!"
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4. "That was the last gasp of quality street-level New York rap"
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I didn't spend a dime on any of it either, but I liked it.

  

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5. "that "Jiggy, suit wearing, VIP, Bottle Service" era. "
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that whole era in the late 90's where everybody was "flossing", wearing suits, and "getting Jiggy". and of course, they were chillin' "in the VIP", sippin on (name brand of choice).


The music was awful, and the show steez was cheesy.



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19. "that era never ended lol"
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www.royallegacy.org
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31. "Was bottle service even out back then?"
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I just read an article saying Bottle service didn't get big til the 2000's

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6. "the "9 MC's in Carhartt jackets screaming at me" era"
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not that I hated it, but at one point it seemed like the easiest way to get a record out was to put on some Carhartt, and make a posse record with 9 other people all screaming the hook at the top of their lungs.

Now musically, the music was pretty good. But must EVERYBODY on the song yell their verse?


(and I trace the origins of this style back to Leaders of The New School...who begat Rumpletilskinz, etc...)


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7. "The "New York Is Hard, Too!" era"
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turned my stomach to hear emcees who just a year or so prior talking abt upliftment flip it into stick ups, selling dope,jumpin on chicks, and being high/drunk all the time...ALL as a reaction to West Coast gangsta shit...

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32. "Hell yeah. Yeah I'm biased but eff that era and Horrorcore LOL"
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99. "RE: Hell yeah. Yeah I'm biased but eff that era and Horrorcore LOL"
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Horrorcore was wack. Never could get into the Gravediggers because of the wack azz subject matter.

  

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33. "examples plz"
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>turned my stomach to hear emcees who just a year or so prior
>talking abt upliftment flip it into stick ups, selling
>dope,jumpin on chicks, and being high/drunk all the time...ALL
>as a reaction to West Coast gangsta shit..

  

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59. "word, i'm like wtf is he talkin bout"
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67. "A few examples:"
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Mon Jan-24-11 09:43 PM by AFKAP_of_Darkness

  

          

Brand Nubian - In God We Trust
EPMD - Business Never Personal
UMC's - Unleashed
Onyx - Bacdafucup

and a whole army of other east coast hip-hoppers who shot their videos in dark sewers between 1992 and 94. Stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlm645zCrU8

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70. "Brand Nubian was a glaring example/my first thought."
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74. "Seriously, even Run DMC's shit. They gotta know what you mean"
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79. "Yeah, Run DMC's Down With the King was the epitome"
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of that era for me.

Same thing with LL's 14 Shots to the Dome

UMC's might have been the most radical, though, because they went from dancing ith puppets to calling themselves the Ill Demonic Clique lol

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112. "LOL at UMC's transformation."
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I never really liked them so I didn't follow them at all.
But Ill Demonic Clique? Too funny.

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75. "Or this?"
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Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F5E1uV-f14

  

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78. "In God We Trust > One For All"
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In god we trust is a muthafuckin banger! I agree with onyx and i never fucked with umc's

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86. "whoa, I never thought about Brand Nubian like that "
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>Brand Nubian - In God We Trust
>



I think it has as much to do with Puba leaving and X/Jamar not knowing what creative direction to go. So they turned on MTV and revised the style of the group lol


I would argue that album is actually their best album- though most people would say One for All.

  

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93. "in fairness, EPMD was shooting vids in sewers dating back to '89"
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95. "LOL"
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97. "I'm saying, and shooting videos at shooting ranges"
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98. "RE: A few examples:"
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EPMD and LL actually were some of the ones who started the trend in 1990 with Business as Usual(Hardcore) and LL's Mama Said Knock You out single.EPMD's 3rd album is alot more agressive than their previous albums.

The trend really caught on in 92. It was cool in 92 but was really playing itself out in 93. Groups did get darker like LONS/UMCs/Black Sheep/Brand Nubian shit even Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince in 93.

The production was great but a lot of the lyrics were suffering doing that time. Still think that era was better than any era post Biggie/Pac deaths.

  

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114. "A lot of great music came out of that though..."
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Not Onyx or horrorcore or shit like that but stuff like Wu-tang, Mobb Deep, MOP and Black Moon/Bootcamp click obviously came out of that mindset. Also, Gang Starr's successful switchup on "hard to earn" (which I don't like as much as the previous two but it's still dope) was "clearly" a product of it. Shit, you might even add Redman even if he was a bit more playful/goofy with it. Biggie too...

  

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8. "Trap Rap"
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when an emcees' subject matter consists primarily of adventures in dope selling....*scratches name off list*

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9. "The "Collabo" era"
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all of a sudden nobody could carry an album by themselves....each track was a "collabo"

which in turn, brought down the value of collaborations severely...

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11. "if you see the word "Featuring" on more than 3 tracks? Trash it."
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23. "I personally prefer less guests but you'd trash a lot of classics if 3 w..."
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Everything from It Was Written to Fantastic Vol 2 to Aquemini to A Piece of Strange.

  

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12. "best one yet. can we count collaborating w/a gang of producers too?"
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the era of multiple "superproducers".

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13. "hell yeah! more than five producers on an album is too much"
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niggas got 14 tracks on they albums with 11 different producers. SMH at that shit

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15. "amen."
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77. "I think The Blueprint & Supreme Clientele would like a word with you"
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The problem isn't different producers, Illmatic has 5 producers and damn if I don't complete consistency in the production. The problem is either the artist not having a vision of the sound of the album (The Roots & Kanye are perfect current examples of ppl who have a complete vision of sound) or taking on too many sounds (Double albums fail a lot of times b/c of this). The way that Rae made OB4TCL2 is a perfect example of how you can make many producers work. Less producers can work as well (There's tons of classics made by 1 or 2 producers) but there is always that chance of it becoming too bland.

  

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80. "RE: I think The Blueprint & Supreme Clientele would like a word with you"
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>The problem isn't different producers, Illmatic has 5
>producers and damn if I don't complete consistency in the
>production. The problem is either the artist not having a
>vision of the sound of the album (The Roots & Kanye are
>perfect current examples of ppl who have a complete vision of
>sound) or taking on too many sounds (Double albums fail a lot
>of times b/c of this). The way that Rae made OB4TCL2 is a
>perfect example of how you can make many producers work. Less
>producers can work as well (There's tons of classics made by 1
>or 2 producers) but there is always that chance of it becoming
>too bland.

i see i have to be more specific. first off, Illmatic is not in the
category i'm speaking of. i specifically said more than five because
of this album. LP and Premier handled most of the album. 6 of the 9
if i'm not mistaken. then Tip, PR and LES had a track apiece. winning
ingredient, they all worked in the lab together

Kanye is the mastermind behind his projects. he takes the bits and
pieces he likes from a certain producer and gives it his Yeezy touch.
their were four producers who pretty much shaped the sound of his
latest album. Kanye, No ID, Jeff Bhasker and Mike Dean. they were
involved with every track on the album. that's why it sounds like an
actual album and not just a collection of songs. again, they worked
in the lab together.

Not sure what point you were trying to make with The Roots but we all
know who's the mastermind behind the sound so i won't waste time
speaking on it.

i'm not a fan of OB4CL2 so i won't even waste my time speaking on it.

i'll give you SC. that's the only album that worked with that kind of
set up. 8 producers on 15 songs and it actually meshed perfectly IMO.
point out another classic like that fam. i want to see what you come up
with.

The Blueprint, NO! Kanye (5 tracks), Just Blaze (4 tracks) and Bink
(3 tracks). 12 of the 15 tracks were handled by 3 dudes who worked in
the lab together to create a similar vibe. Em, Trackmasterz and Tim
had a track apiece. thats not the hodgepodge style of production i'm
talking about.

it's pretty much the modern day style i'm speaking of. where dudes
don't even work in the same studio together. they just get a track
from this guy. another from so and so. get a track apiece from a few
hit makers. Rick Ross made it work on Teflon Don that's about it. it
rarely works and i doubt you could name a good amount of solid albums
that use this blueprint.

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17. ":("
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Seriously though, I'm not going to even name some dope albums by certain rappers/emcees that had more than five different producers but I'm not sure if there was one that had ten or more though ?


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54. "make me see your point."
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24. "another era that's still not over."
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30. "Yeah, that shit drives me fucking bananas"
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Fucking beat CDs and long ass lags in-between albums.

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16. "Yeah, that was the worst."
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It got to the point where damn near every song had a collaboration within an album. You literally had to seek out the tracks that had any solo performances. Take No Limit for instance. I would look at the listing on any of the cds friends and fam had (I never owned any No Limit music) and it was to the point where every cd that came out of that camp looked like a No Limit compilation album featuring one consistent guest star. It was ridiculous.





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20. "forced ass collabos too"
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48. "actually THIS is the line I'd draw in the sand"
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collabos were cool when they didn't seem like some cross-pollination/marketing and actually had to jump record label red tape to happen...

like Ice Cube and Big Daddy Kane with PE was a big deal to me back in the day.

Hearing Meth on Biggie's album sort of seemed like it made him less of a "new jack"

hell, Ice Cube/Ice T for "Tresspass" was cool for the same reason.

but when you get a CD and see like the most random combinations with verses that seemed rather phoned in (great example is on Meth/Red's Blackout, where Def Jam squeezed in Ja Rule to that song with them and LL... it's like "WTF?! they might as well have been talking about Ja in the other verses and here he is?! Cmon Def Jam")

  

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63. "exactly"
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25. "Didn't that era start with Death Row and Wu-Tang? "
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nm.

  

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29. "Both Wu-Tang and Master P were pretty much to blame for that"
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I can understand why Wu-Tang did it, since their whole movement was about their "family," so every album was an extended posse. Shoot, I love, love, LOVE OBFCL, but there were only two songs on it where Rae had more than one verse. It lead to a lot of other dumb stuff.

I guess Master P and No Limit also did it 'cause it was about their own "family," but it was mostly because almost their entire roster couldn't carry on track on their own.

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62. "RE: The "Collabo" era aka the No Limit Era..."
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>all of a sudden nobody could carry an album by
>themselves....each track was a "collabo"
>
>which in turn, brought down the value of collaborations
>severely...
>
>*******
>www.windimoto.com


had to correct that and properly lay the blame to it's creator.

EVERY No limit album had something like 4329870432 tracks and nearly EVERY track had at least two guest spots on it.

I remember flippin through records at Puffer Reds with one of my boys back during this era, and I had picked up Eminem's "Slim Shady LP" the tuesday it dropped and dude was like "why you even buyin that... ain't hardly any guests on the album dawg... that's GOTTA be some bullshit!"

He copped some No Limit shit on the strength of the collabs... Not the artist himself. We listened to SSLP at my spot and that no limit shit didn't even get play; he went out and copped it himself.

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26. "RE: Era's in Hip Hop History You Just CAN'T Snap To"
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57. "i *JUST* caught what you did there. LOL."
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64. "I call it..."Leaving a duffle bag in Times Square""
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Lol y'all asses woulda been toast!

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28. "Haha I remember playing a DJ S&amp;S podcast in my Jeep and"
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my friend goes "ugh... playing all the hip hop everyone wants to forget" LOL!

The one rapper I hate is DMX so I understand. But I like some of those late 90s/2000 Swizzy things.

Also, everyone in that same era still had grimy "crate digger" beats too. In fact, it seemed to be the last time some of that production style was huge commercially.

e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_ntWq8UqY In this case not a rare groove but... yknow what I mean?? At least it came from a fuckin' groove at all. Album went platinum, by the way.

  

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34. "lol so what kinda hip hop do yall niggas like."
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35. "like you're one to talk"
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coming from a nigga that has Kanye's pube sheddings freeze-dried for future smoking, thats not much of an insult

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36. "88' - 95'"
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41. "pretty much"
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i'd even take 96 too but after that, nah

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51. "hope yall niggas got a time machine then"
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61. "notice he didn't deny the Kanye pube sheddings accusation"
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68. "LMAO!"
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82. "LOLOL"
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83. "lol"
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96. "LOL"
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110. "#dead"
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100. "RE: 88' - 95'"
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86-96 is my favorite Hip Hop yrs and the best.

79-83 is dope too especially with the group dynamic.

While 97-01 was cool with a lot of wack shit.

Everything after that has been very MISS with very little HIT.

  

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73. "hahahhahahaha"
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It's about time you came with one of those wild ass shit-talking lines of yours again.

  

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81. "LOVE the avy, my cocksman"
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66. "88- to 04"
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38. "they all seemed to take prominence around 1997 or so"
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Jiggy/Shiny Suit (if it ain't BIG... EFF IT)
Swizz Beats/"Casio"
Master Pee/Cheeseball ("Ice Cream Man" was easily the cheesiest song I had heard as a lead single until that point)

that was kind of a rubbish turn

though, whatever you call this "Ed Hardy" hip-hop that I've seen on the likes of Kanye's and Fromaj's latest albums... and the "Oontz-Hop" ... POO POO

  

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40. "RE: they all seemed to take prominence around 1997 or so"
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lol... please explain further Ye and this "Ed Hardy" rap

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42. "i know exactly what he means by it"
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and the kind of music he means.

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43. "RE: i know exactly what he means by it"
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well can either of you explain.. the term

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44. "look up Ed Hardy and it'll make sense, I promise"
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45. "RE: look up Ed Hardy and it'll make sense, I promise"
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man I KNOW what Ed Hardy is... Shit Naledge and I attended his Launch Party back in friggin like 2004.. lol

I don't get how.. "Runaway" equates to Ed-Hardy?

Now Flo-rida.. is Ed Hardy ALL DAY

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47. "LOL, that was the song I was thinking about...."
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that weird, "96 Wave" shit.
I had totally avoided everything related to the Kanye album and listened to it blindly when it came out

and I was like... "WTF"
that was more out there than 808s...

  

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49. "RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about...."
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lol.. ok... but it's like.. where does he go from here??

"can he get much higher?" lol

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50. "RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about...."
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content wise I think he is slowly losing parts of the audience but are you weirded out by the content or the music?

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52. "I'm thinking it's more of the content than the music"
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>content wise I think he is slowly losing parts of the
>audience but are you weirded out by the content or the music?

the music... on that particular song is so tied to the content, though. Judging by the way his music has been going for the last few years I can't say that he's better off doing XYZ, even though I prefer the music on Last Registration or even Graduation... but content wise, I thought he'd be able to sell the "96 Wave" type stuff a lil better than it came off.

You take a song like "Power" and you're like "YEEEEEEEEEEAH!!"
then you take "Runaway" and can't help but wonder if he's slightly going the other way. That's not even the worst offender to me though, "All Of The ..." whatever it's called, the song w/Rhianna and that chaotic chorus/intro.

  

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53. "RE: I'm thinking it's more of the content than the music"
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Yea I mean to me Ye' has always been good at just saying fuck it imma do it.. whether it works or not he carves the lane...

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65. "RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about...."
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>lol.. ok... but it's like.. where does he go from here??

he goes backwards.

think about it...

after you've pushed the envelope for a couple of records, tryed to redefine what can be called hip hop (with success and failure at both extremes of the spectrum), your next step is to take it back to what got you to that point in the first place.

Think "College Dropout", but with subject matter from Kanye at THIS point in his life.

Dude could recapture the people that left him alone a coupla albums ago (like me).


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69. "RE: LOL, that was the song I was thinking about...."
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I think that's what he thought he was doing..

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116. "keyword - "thought""
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Ye prolly shoulda just grabbed an MPC60II or 3000, VS-880, and a mic w/nothing else but some records, moved into a shitty apartment on the south side of Chicago and stayed there until he got back to what folks loved about his music in the beginning.


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55. "I'm with you 110%"
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>I just can't stomach the "RUFF RYDERS/SWIZZ BEATS" era of hip
>hop.

I was about to jump ship on Hip Hop for good around '98 or '99 until I discovered Rawkus, went through a heavy backpacker phase, then came back around to the mainstream around 2003.

But yeah...the Casio shit just made me furious.

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56. "RE: Era's in Hip Hop History You Just CAN'T Clap To"
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Although they had a flock of decent mc's (cam, juelz) and awesome ad libs...i think the dip set movement was trash

  

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58. "The funny thing is he was one of the catalysts behind "
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my 3rd favorite Summer in hip hop history. 1999. He sure produced some heat that year.

  

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60. "The Puff Daddy and Ma$e shiny suit/jiggy era."
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84. "eras? no. artists? sure: pm dawn rise, smylez & southstar, "
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85. "&amp;quot;We get so live! (E-VOOL!), Live! (E-VOOL!)..."
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...We get so live! (E-VOOL!), Live! (E-VOOL!)..."

I am sooooooo glad horrorcore never really took off in the mainstream, (Eminem being the exception). Gravediggaz and Brotha Lynch Hung had a couple of songs I liked, but foh with the overall movement...

  

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102. "That was really a retarded movement back then. "
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I'm glad that crap never really blew up as well.








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104. "yeah, really... I liked Gravediggaz because it seemed like a joke"
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and the joke was on Tommy Boy for having dropped all those dudes at different points in their careers.

Their subsequent albums weren't even really on that stuff.

  

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87. "polka dots"
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that is all

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“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

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88. "Awww Damn...I had maaaaad polka dot short sets too...lol"
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And my favorite outfit was a mustard long sleeve shirt with black polka dots and some gold Hammer pants. lol

  

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101. "I never could get into Kwame like that back in the day."
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119. "It's funny cuz I don't even remember that nigga"
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I was aware of everyone else...but kwame??? nah, never heard of the cat til i got on this site.

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89. "The DIY/Digital/Indie/Fruity Loops/Youtube/Worldstar era "
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has dulled my enjoyment of hip hop music more than any particular musical trend.

Of course this era produced has some diamonds but too many corners are getting cut en route to notoriety. I'm not pointing the finger because I contributed to this problem at one time as well, but I think overall all of this has had a detrimental effect on overall Hip-Hop appreciation. Maybe it's my age, but I just can't keep up with all this shit. And most of it is in fact, shit.

  

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105. "Hmm, that's a good point"
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>Of course this era produced has some diamonds but too many
>corners are getting cut en route to notoriety. I'm not
>pointing the finger because I contributed to this problem at
>one time as well, but I think overall all of this has had a
>detrimental effect on overall Hip-Hop appreciation. Maybe
>it's my age, but I just can't keep up with all this shit. And
>most of it is in fact, shit.

esp. the Worldstar bit... it is, in fact, shit.

  

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90. "X's 1st album had one Swizz beat"
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and on his second album the Swizz beats were pretty hard, not the typical stuff you heard on Jay-Z and LOX albums and whatnot.

If you thought those albums were filled with those type of beats, you're sadly mistaken.

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91. "Who gives a fuck? The beats sucked and still do."
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92. "They didn't and still don't"
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And they are night and day different than the Swizz beats that he was referring to.

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115. "DMX's albums were always iffy to me...."
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He'd have one or two joints I could ride to...the rest I was on the fence.

I grew up in the era of heavily sample based hip hop....so making beats off a fucking Casio, no haps.

Now....don't get me wrong...I appreciate a good homemade beat....but of the original beat makers....Suave House did it SOOOOOOOOO much better than Swizz Beats.

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118. "I feel you..."
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I'm, not a big fan of Swizz either, but DMX's first few were dope as hell to me, the beats were dark and hard(pause) and were a lot different than Swizz's typical stuff.

This was also the era that I really got into hip hop, so I'm sure my opinion is gonna be a little differnt than yours.

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94. "I can't say I hated the Superproducer era, but it did a lot of harm"
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I can't pinpoint exactly where it started...I'd say Timbaland, maybe Neptunes. But then it went to Lil Jon, Scott Storch, even Just Blaze, and the main issue I had is that every artist out felt that they had to have these names on their album to sell, and it made for a lot of forced ass singles.

One of the primary examples is Mobb Deep's single with Lil Jon...their energy just didn't match that beat, and it wasn't helping them be exposed to Lil Jon's crowd, while at the same time, didn't help their hardcore fans appreciate Lil Jon. Same when the Westside Connection had Timbaland produce that "Nobody" track for em...he was my favorite producer at the time, and they were my favorite group, and I was HYPED to hear it....but it completely sucked.

It had some great moments, such as Snoop + Pharrell, Too Short/E-40 + Lil Jon, Jay + Pharrell, so as a whole, I won't say "I can't clap to that era." But it made a lot of artists lose their identity for a while, and we were liking songs because of the producer more than because of the artists and their usual formula.

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106. "is it weird that an officially 30-40 y.o. art form has so many "eras"? n..."
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micMajestic
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107. "No, because it's "Hip"-Hop. Naturally it's supposed to be current."
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The inner city kids dictated what was hot. Ultimately hip-hop expanded far and wide and too many people started seeing the potential profit in it. This allowed big business to have a huge hand in deciding what is considered "hip". This puts adults who grew up on the music in a very awkward position, as we demonize the big business aspect of hip-hop, but we also end up fighting against the nature of it's existence.

  

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108. "Wrong spot/but I co-sign Horrorcore."
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Gravediggaz was the only good thing to come out of it.

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113. "Post-Biggie Bad Boy"
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Hated Mase's style. Plus with the success of Biggie's One More Chance Puff and Mo Money Mo Problems, Puff seemed content to just have his people loop old hits to try and make new ones. The imagery was wack too.

*money hanging out the anus*

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Abstract_TheEclectic_Nubian
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117. "The whole gangsta thug era"
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Just couldn't co-sign on it. wasn't feelin' it.

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