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Subject: "anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Michelle..."

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"anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Michelle..."
Tue Nov-22-11 05:45 AM by go ask ya momma

Bachman on Jimmy Fallon

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Subject	Author	Message Date	ID
Had me rolling too	Poorspellir	Nov 22nd 2011	1
Haha	Ishwip	Nov 22nd 2011	2
this story is catching fire, I wouldn't be suprised if O'Reilly said som...	spew120	Nov 22nd 2011	3
Glenn Beck's already mad (YouTubage):	Mole	Nov 22nd 2011	16
fuck Glenn Beck....	Crash85	Nov 22nd 2011	17
^That's basically it (c) P	Ishwip	Nov 22nd 2011	21
But Beck belittles his callers/guests every single day	spew120	Nov 22nd 2011	40
	Nodima	Nov 23rd 2011	86
exactly	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	94
Y'all might need to rename this post and anchor it	Invisiblist	Nov 22nd 2011	4
will there be an apology?	Nick Has a Problem...Seriously	Nov 22nd 2011	5
quest an them bout to fuck up they money	d-bwoyFLOW	Nov 22nd 2011	6
Yeah right.	Invisiblist	Nov 22nd 2011	12
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich...	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	7
the controversy will be great promo for they new album.	Papi	Nov 22nd 2011	8
quest gettin his curtis jackson on	d-bwoyFLOW	Nov 22nd 2011	9
^^^gets it	SP1200	Nov 22nd 2011	14
nah, getting the NRA/Beck army on your tail is no publicity stunt	spew120	Nov 22nd 2011	31
Jared Loughner was 'their boy'?	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 22nd 2011	34
I'm not saying he was hired or anything	spew120	Nov 22nd 2011	39
Loughner was not a Tea Partier or even a Conservative.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 22nd 2011	43
Seek the interview of Jared's gal-pal. You might think differently	spew120	Nov 22nd 2011	46
Will do.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 22nd 2011	49
^^^doesn't get it.	SP1200	Nov 23rd 2011	106
there was a big beefin ass post about it in GD...	Dstl1	Nov 22nd 2011	10
Huffingtonpost link	Ishwip	Nov 22nd 2011	11
according to those comments on that article ...	QBoogie	Nov 22nd 2011	20
I hope there's no fallout	Brother Rabbit	Nov 22nd 2011	13
Nobody gives a fuck about Michelle Bachmann	Burt Reynoldz	Nov 22nd 2011	15
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich...	Poorspellir	Nov 22nd 2011	18
I'm sure there will an apology and that'll be that... n/m	Mole	Nov 22nd 2011	22
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbon...	Deacon Blues	Nov 22nd 2011	44
I know it is snark, but I wouldn't have gone there.	341	Nov 22nd 2011	19
It's humor, this wasn't MEET THE PRESS n/m	johnbook	Nov 22nd 2011	23
I know it's humor, but why bring the negative press on to oneself.	341	Nov 22nd 2011	28
Is she running for president right now, is she THE GOP candidate?	johnbook	Nov 22nd 2011	30
Yes...she is the GOP canidate.	341	Nov 22nd 2011	42
RE: No she's not.	Austin	Nov 22nd 2011	45
I know...I know...long day at work. LOL	341	Nov 22nd 2011	47
RE: No she's not.	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	48
They didn't actually call her a bitch, though.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 22nd 2011	50
RE: They didn't actually call her a bitch, though.	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	52
I don't think they went too far at all, but THIS....	CaptNish	Nov 22nd 2011	53
well, she is a Representative.	Invisiblist	Nov 23rd 2011	103
a lot of people represent a lot of different parties, she is no differen...	johnbook	Nov 23rd 2011	190
For real though, they didn't even say the word bitch...	Crash85	Nov 22nd 2011	24
There's probably gonna be an apology.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 22nd 2011	25
An apology would be so lame	Ishwip	Nov 22nd 2011	26
You're close,,,	CaptNish	Nov 22nd 2011	29
I love this comment here:	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 22nd 2011	32
PERFECT (c) SF 2	Ishwip	Nov 22nd 2011	33
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich...	Getyohandouttamypocket	Nov 22nd 2011	27
RE: And this is the main thing here:	Austin	Nov 22nd 2011	35
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	Ishwip	Nov 22nd 2011	36
RE: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	Hamsterline	Nov 22nd 2011	58
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich...	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	37
RE: The video has been removed since at least 8.30am PST.	Austin	Nov 22nd 2011	38
RE: The video has been removed since at least 8.30am PST.	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	41
She really really really really deserved this, or worse	spew120	Nov 22nd 2011	51
I hope the media doesn't blow this thing up too much	las raises	Nov 22nd 2011	54
RE: I hope the media doesn't blow this thing up too much	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	55
lmao this shit bout to blow the fuck up	BrooklynWHAT	Nov 22nd 2011	56
capitalize and start doing a smart tie-in to the Undun release	Sunny D	Nov 22nd 2011	57
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich...	G_The_SP	Nov 22nd 2011	59
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich...	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	63
Glenn Beck calls for The Roots to be fired from the show	Phreak	Nov 22nd 2011	60
I call for Glenn Beck to be fired.......from this planet	liveguy	Nov 22nd 2011	62
RE: http://bit.ly/anvySr	Austin	Nov 22nd 2011	70
LOLLLLLLLLLL	Ghetto Black	Nov 22nd 2011	76
that dude can't figure out his own hypocrisy. callin fallon a girl	veritas	Nov 23rd 2011	144
I was here	13Rose	Nov 22nd 2011	61
?uestlove apologizes?	gusto	Nov 22nd 2011	64
and...	boyd	Nov 22nd 2011	65
RE: I appreciated the question mark at the end there.	Austin	Nov 22nd 2011	75
I am The Wordman and I support that walk-on intro	Wordman	Nov 22nd 2011	66
if they get fired, then all bad	emeng	Nov 22nd 2011	67
i def don't think they should be fired. but mayb they can bring her back	Jon	Nov 22nd 2011	69
fuck the dumb.	Ghetto Black	Nov 22nd 2011	77
Big Roots fan, Sandwiches fan, no Bachman fan, but this wasnt cool.	Jon	Nov 22nd 2011	68
Yep	makaveli	Nov 22nd 2011	71
Oh fuck Glenn Beck and his fake moral outrage in the eye-socket	mrhood75	Nov 22nd 2011	72
Jimmy F. apologizes...Huffington Post	murph71	Nov 22nd 2011	74
RE: Maybe the fact that it's a talk show distinguishes it. . .	Austin	Nov 23rd 2011	79
man...	denny	Nov 23rd 2011	81
This Isn't About Whether Or Not Someone Else Apologized	makaveli	Nov 23rd 2011	89
^BOOM^	Ishwip	Nov 23rd 2011	78
To be fifair, I think Beck's big problem is with the 'sneakiness'	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	82
RE: To be fifair, I think Beck's big problem is with the 'sneakiness'	Poorspellir	Nov 23rd 2011	85
uh....you copping pleas for Glenn Beck now???	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	99
RE: uh....you copping pleas for Glenn Beck now???	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	104
it is an offensive term.....and it was meant to be offensive	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	107
RE: it is an offensive term.....and it was meant to be offensive	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	108
RE: it is an offensive term.....and it was meant to be offensive	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	110
LMAO!!!!	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	115
Address what you were called on, or keep it moving...	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	157
I already addressed it.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	164
RE: I already addressed it.	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	167
Like I said: more bitchmade than I could have imagined.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	171
Okay, I'm deading this now: both of y'all need to knock it off	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	173
lol...issue is deaded as far as I'm concerned.. if you're good with	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	175
THIS:	denny	Nov 23rd 2011	182
She's the most willfully oblivious and disingenuous person...	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	102
fuck all them bitches.	ninjitsu	Nov 23rd 2011	83
RE: fuck all them bitches.	Allah	Nov 23rd 2011	137
booing the first lady is okay, but a president hopeful wasnt?	justin_scott	Nov 22nd 2011	73
jimmy's audience shoulda booed her ass	gusto	Nov 23rd 2011	80
They did.	CaptNish	Nov 23rd 2011	87
I was late and this was great.	Pete Burns	Nov 23rd 2011	84
what was witty, or tongue in cheek about this though?	d_Benjamin_m	Nov 23rd 2011	88
This Isn't About What Other People Did	makaveli	Nov 23rd 2011	90
i agree.	Gloworm	Nov 23rd 2011	98
it was 'wrong'? GOOD.	Dr Claw	Nov 23rd 2011	91
RE: it was 'wrong'? GOOD.	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	92
I know and recognize that.	Dr Claw	Nov 23rd 2011	93
	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	95
I like this.....	thembi	Nov 23rd 2011	96
yea hopefully	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	97
Great move...loved it....long as it don't cost them anything...	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	100
wonder about the effect on fishbone's download sales...	Approaching	Nov 23rd 2011	101
Bachmann: Roots Song On Fallon Sexist, Demands NBC Apology (Huffington P...	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	105
wow...she's so clueless	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	109
RE: wow...she's so clueless	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	111
and??	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	113
RE: and??	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	118
Damn... If only Owen was still around!	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	119
Those crazy ass eyes	Luke Cage	Nov 23rd 2011	188
who cares how it looked?? It was meant to look that way..that's the poi...	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	160
Why should we take her bullshit dogma out of it if she insists...	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	114
exactly..... people have to stop letting these clowns play by	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	116
RE: Why should we take her bullshit dogma out of it if she insists...	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	122
I don't know why they can't see the simple point you're making	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	123
Oh, I see it fine.	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	126
I'll admit I threw in the 'liberal echo chamber' thing in there	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	131
RE: I'll admit I threw in the 'liberal echo chamber' thing in there	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	136
Okay, here we go.	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	147
RE: Okay, here we go.	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	149
lol... dude you as clueless as bachman...	Warren Coolidge	Nov 23rd 2011	165
RE: Oh, I see it fine.	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	134
RE: Oh, I see it fine.	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	140
RE: Oh, I see it fine.	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011
But there SHOULD be an eroding. That's my point	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	152
RE: But there SHOULD be an eroding. That's my point	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	162
RE: I don't know why they can't see the simple point you're making	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	128
RE: Bachmann: Roots Song On Fallon Sexist, Demands NBC Apology (Huffingt...	pidgwillot	Nov 23rd 2011	141
this was the bitch who said slavery was good.....	thembi	Nov 23rd 2011	143
Ugh, this story isn't dying. I fear for 15's employment status.	spew120	Nov 23rd 2011	112
yeah, I thought it was one and done yesterday	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 23rd 2011	117
True	makaveli	Nov 23rd 2011	120
shit I hardly watch the show now and when I do its only for The Roots	L.E.S.	Nov 24th 2011	214
RE: yeah, I thought it was one and done yesterday	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	124
It's only "serious" because it's a slow news week	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	129
lol SLOW NEWS WEEK!? Russia wants to nuke us.	JG.	Nov 23rd 2011	133
Yeah, no one is reporting that	mrhood75	Nov 23rd 2011	142
RE: lol SLOW NEWS WEEK!? Russia wants to nuke us.	I. Motion	Nov 24th 2011	196
He'll be fine...	Shelly	Nov 23rd 2011	121
RE: He'll be fine...	I. Motion	Nov 24th 2011	197
I'm going to out my Sarah Palin song choice right now	handle	Nov 23rd 2011	125
^^^	Allah	Nov 23rd 2011	127
RE: I'm going to out my Sarah Palin song choice right now	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	130
I support this fully, this woman is a beacon of ignorance	JG.	Nov 23rd 2011	132
it's not about picking sides	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	135
No it is about sides, its about their side and the side of	JG.	Nov 23rd 2011	138
lol	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	139
How are you going to come to an intelligent conclusion	JG.	Nov 23rd 2011	145
you don't get it	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	153
It's too tiring playing the ''well-rounded'', thoughtful position all th...	Ishwip	Nov 23rd 2011	158
well, I don't believe you have to do anything	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	159
RE: It's too tiring playing the ''well-rounded'', thoughtful position al...	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	166
yep	philpot	Nov 24th 2011	210
Someone please make a shirt with her face and the song title	DiP	Nov 23rd 2011	146
you're talking to people who have no concept of her politics	naame	Nov 23rd 2011	148
RE: you're talking to people who have no concept of her politics	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	150
lol my fault bruh i thought i had responded to ishwip regarding	naame	Nov 23rd 2011	163
maybe a ?uestionable choice, but i have no problem with it.	k0la	Nov 23rd 2011	151
RE: maybe a ?uestionable choice, but i have no problem with it.	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	155
?uest said in the AP story that is was a spur-of-the-moment decision.	theillestboYee	Nov 23rd 2011	154
she IS a lying ass bitch though	Zion3Lion	Nov 23rd 2011	156
That really is it	OldPro	Nov 23rd 2011	161
RE: That really is it	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	168
The whole bitch part is just a distraction	OldPro	Nov 23rd 2011	174
lol exactly	Ishwip	Nov 23rd 2011	176
it doesn't matter what she is getting mad at	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	177
RE: The whole bitch part is just a distraction	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	189
After the incident, Bachmann went on national television and lied repeat...	BSharp	Nov 23rd 2011	169
RE: After the incident, Bachmann went on national television and lied re...	murph71	Nov 23rd 2011	170
Yo son	Anonymous	Nov 23rd 2011	172
RE: Yo son	murph71	Nov 24th 2011	206
I honestly don't think she's stupid.	BSharp	Nov 23rd 2011	178
I don't know....	denny	Nov 23rd 2011	185
I'm shocked at the amount of people who have a problem with this	L.E.S.	Nov 23rd 2011	179
I don't think it should've been done	EAS	Nov 23rd 2011	180
Had it been to just about anyone else? I would've felt like	Soon	Nov 23rd 2011	181
ya'll acting like ?uest didn't know what he was doing...	pistolpete	Nov 23rd 2011	183
Top 10 Quotes of Michelle Bachmann lying her ass off	ShinobiShaw	Nov 23rd 2011	184
Does the walk-ons get neutered after this is my question.	phemom	Nov 23rd 2011	186
I was watching this with Moms	Luke Cage	Nov 23rd 2011	187
the irony of the B word...	Warren Coolidge	Nov 24th 2011	192
you know what song they should have done....what's the one song	Warren Coolidge	Nov 24th 2011	191
''Another Man'' by Barbara Mason, lol!	CinisterCee	Nov 24th 2011	193
RE: ''Another Man'' by Barbara Mason, lol!	murph71	Nov 24th 2011	205
but should they have sang Biggie's rendition?	CinisterCee	Nov 24th 2011	194
In this case, Fishbone & The Roots will win	dgonsh	Nov 24th 2011	195
man, I finally saw the clip. They didn't even sing the word 'Bitch'	Dr Claw	Nov 24th 2011	198
That's what I've been saying.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 24th 2011	199
quest didnt have to tell people what he did. but i guess he couldnt	GumDrops	Nov 24th 2011	200
btw, i hope this benefits fishbone... still underrated.	GumDrops	Nov 24th 2011	201
Anyone not supporting 15 on this is a pawn	imcvspl	Nov 24th 2011	202
^^^^^goddam right	Buck	Nov 24th 2011	203
RE: Anyone not supporting 15 on this is a pawn	murph71	Nov 24th 2011	204
It was THEIR risk to take and THEY took it	imcvspl	Nov 24th 2011	207
disagreed	denny	Nov 24th 2011	225
RE: It was THEIR risk to take and THEY took it	murph71	Nov 24th 2011	229
"checkers and chess", "common sense" blah blah blah	philpot	Nov 24th 2011	216
RE: "checkers and chess", "common sense" blah blah blah	murph71	Nov 24th 2011	230
THANKFUL FOR THIS POST	L.E.S.	Nov 24th 2011	208
and there you have it!	philpot	Nov 24th 2011	215
THANK YOU!	ninjitsu	Nov 24th 2011	217
You have 0 perspective	southphillyman	Nov 24th 2011	221
southphillypawn ladies and gentlemen	imcvspl	Nov 24th 2011	222
Quest met with Bachmann. What do you think happened?	southphillyman	Nov 24th 2011	223
you just called someone a "fanatic"???	Stadiq	Nov 25th 2011	233
Lol, you really think that wasn't planned from the start?	blinded by the lights	Nov 26th 2011	236
yea, shit was badass... and came from an honest place..	DonWonJusuton	Nov 24th 2011	224
^^^sees it. She is a lyin ass bitch.	Stadiq	Nov 25th 2011	234
I'm more shocked someone close to that BITCH knows Fishbone	B9	Nov 24th 2011	209
?uest tweeted it.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 24th 2011	211
Not really	B9	Nov 24th 2011	212
Yeah, really.	AFKAP_of_Darkness	Nov 24th 2011	220
FIXED: ?uest tweeted there was snark in it	imcvspl	Nov 24th 2011	213
Apparently there's an OKP that interns for the Huff post	mrhood75	Nov 24th 2011	218
RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich...	AGP01	Nov 24th 2011	226
http://tinypic.com/r/2vnkksj/5	PG	Nov 24th 2011	227
Severely reprimanded	roberto	Nov 24th 2011	228
I dunno, but	Invisiblist	Nov 25th 2011	235
It's not a big deal and here's why	Asoyini	Nov 25th 2011	231
#team?uesto. (although not #teamfuckingupyourmoney or	poetx	Nov 25th 2011	232
seems like everyone here is missing the point	HighVoltage	Nov 26th 2011	237
RE: Nope, you missed the point.	Austin	Nov 26th 2011	238
you're further proving my point that everyone here is clueless	HighVoltage	Nov 26th 2011	239
thankfully not everyone	Asoyini	Nov 26th 2011	240
Can this post get anymore depressing?	imcvspl	Nov 26th 2011	241

Poorspellir
Member since Oct 26th 2011
1911 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 11:51 AM

1. "Had me rolling too"
In response to Reply # 0

She was completely oblivious

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Ishwip
Member since Jun 10th 2005
19953 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 11:55 AM

2. "Haha"
In response to Reply # 0

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

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spew120
Member since Oct 02nd 2005
4026 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:01 PM

3. "this story is catching fire, I wouldn't be suprised if O'Reilly said som..."
In response to Reply # 0

Those idiots on the right are gonna demonize the Roots, after their NASCAR brethren booed Michelle Obama (or as Limbaugh says "Moooshelle Obama") and called her "uppity." What a bunch of fascists.

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Mole
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:13 PM

16. "Glenn Beck's already mad (YouTubage):"
In response to Reply # 3

http://t.co/LzQG3lWy

I'm hoping NBC doesn't bend to the right and fire the Roots on some kneejerk bullshit, but I do hope this leads to some kind of Fishbone renaissance.

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Crash85
Member since May 08th 2007
7288 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 01:29 PM

17. "fuck Glenn Beck.... "
In response to Reply # 16

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Everyone here hates pop music, but loves Michael Jackson... Okay Player...

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Ishwip
Member since Jun 10th 2005
19953 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 01:54 PM

21. "^That's basically it (c) P"
In response to Reply # 17

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spew120
Member since Oct 02nd 2005
4026 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 04:25 PM

40. "But Beck belittles his callers/guests every single day"
In response to Reply # 16

what a hypocrite

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Nodima
Member since Jul 30th 2008
15297 posts

Wed Nov-23-11 08:49 AM

86. ""
In response to Reply # 16
Wed Nov-23-11 08:52 AM by Nodima

lol

fell out my chair

and BIGGER lol @ calling Jimmy Fallon out with "you're a GIRL!" while defending a supposed female presidential candidate

like, aren't you defending a girl? what's that mean?

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 10:36 AM

94. "exactly"
In response to Reply # 86

>
>and BIGGER lol @ calling Jimmy Fallon out with "you're a
>GIRL!" while defending a supposed female presidential
>candidate
>
>like, aren't you defending a girl? what's that mean?

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Invisiblist
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33760 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:05 PM

4. "Y'all might need to rename this post and anchor it"
In response to Reply # 0

because this discussion is gonna go big. I propose "Official Roots/Bachmann Nuclear Fallout Post."

I don't know if a rap act has pulled off a move this ballsy before. I wanna say the only thing close is Kanye's Katrina moment.

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Member since Dec 25th 2010
16580 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:10 PM

5. "will there be an apology?"
In response to Reply # 0

******************************************
Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

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d-bwoyFLOW
Member since Nov 13th 2010
556 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:12 PM

6. "quest an them bout to fuck up they money"
In response to Reply # 5

ya'll be back slavin on the road once the right get a hold of this shit.

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Invisiblist
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33760 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:47 PM

12. "Yeah right. "
In response to Reply # 6

They're about to be mascots for the left. Anyone that clicks on news items about this will be shown ads for Undun, too.

Will they get kicked off Fallon? Maybe? But mess up their money? Sheeit.

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murph71
Member since Sep 15th 2005
23113 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:13 PM

7. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich..."
In response to Reply # 0

This thread will be shut down like the other one in GD...lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

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Papi
Member since Jan 27th 2011
2313 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:15 PM

8. "the controversy will be great promo for they new album. "
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d-bwoyFLOW
Member since Nov 13th 2010
556 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 12:22 PM

9. "quest gettin his curtis jackson on"
In response to Reply # 8

controversy = record sales

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SP1200
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:01 PM

14. "^^^gets it"
In response to Reply # 8

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

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spew120
Member since Oct 02nd 2005
4026 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 03:33 PM

31. "nah, getting the NRA/Beck army on your tail is no publicity stunt"
In response to Reply # 14

You see what their boy Jared Laughner did? That's the type of stunt the Tea Party is used to.

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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84244 posts

Tue Nov-22-11 03:39 PM

34. "Jared Loughner was 'their boy'?"
In response to Reply # 31

That's news to me...

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Tue Nov-22-11 04:17 PM

39. "I'm not saying he was hired or anything"
In response to Reply # 34

but they sure weren't too upset when Giffords & supporters were shot. Remember Palin's 'blood libel' speech?

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:29 PM

43. "Loughner was not a Tea Partier or even a Conservative."
In response to Reply # 39

As much as I would have LOVED to lay that one at the feet of the Right, Loughner was just a nutcase with no truly defined political agenda.

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Tue Nov-22-11 04:35 PM

46. "Seek the interview of Jared's gal-pal. You might think differently"
In response to Reply # 43

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49. "Will do."
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SP1200
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:11 PM

106. "^^^doesn't get it."
In response to Reply # 31

And I didn't say it was a publicity stunt.

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Dstl1
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Tue Nov-22-11 12:22 PM

10. "there was a big beefin ass post about it in GD..."
In response to Reply # 0

shit is gone, now.

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Ishwip
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Tue Nov-22-11 12:24 PM

11. "Huffingtonpost link"
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/the-roots-michele-bachmann_n_1107731.html

NEW YORK -- Jimmy Fallon's house band The Roots appear not to be fans of Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann.

As Bachmann strode on to the stage for an appearance on Fallon's "Late Night" early Tuesday, the show's band played a snippet of a Fishbone song called "Lyin' Ass Bitch."

The song begins with a distinctive "la la la la la la la la la" refrain - the only words audible before Bachmann, smiling and waving to the audience, sat down. The song itself, about a relationship gone wrong, isn't political.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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QBoogie
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:49 PM

20. "according to those comments on that article ..."
In response to Reply # 11

... The Roots are good. More applause than fruit being thrown.

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Brother Rabbit
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:00 PM

13. "I hope there's no fallout"
In response to Reply # 0

Have The Roots on an apology tour ala Tracy Morgan.

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Burt Reynoldz
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:11 PM

15. "Nobody gives a fuck about Michelle Bachmann"
In response to Reply # 0

This will cause "controversy" for about 5 minutes. Bachmann is rapidly becoming a footnote to the 2012 Republican Presidential circus: she's not a serious contender a la Gingrich or Romney, and Perry and Cain have been stealing her sideshow-esque thunder with their various antics and gaffes. Her campaign might try to rile it up a bit, but even the right wingers won't ultimately give a shit; she's not a serious contender, it's in their best interest to just get her to away quickly and start removing some of the lunatic fringe so that their supporters can get behind Gingrich/Romney/(Perry?)/whoever and try and get momentum going.

Long story short, don't nobody give a fuck about Bachmann.

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Poorspellir
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:42 PM

18. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich..."
In response to Reply # 0

Fallon tweeted this morning, "@questlove is grounded."

Let's hope it doesn't go further than that. Definitely tuning in tonight though.

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Mole
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:55 PM

22. "I'm sure there will an apology and that'll be that... n/m"
In response to Reply # 18

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Deacon Blues
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:29 PM

44. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbon..."
In response to Reply # 18
Tue Nov-22-11 04:29 PM by Deacon Blues

>Fallon tweeted this morning, "@questlove is grounded."
>
>Let's hope it doesn't go further than that. Definitely tuning
>in tonight though.

"grounded" what that negro gotta stay in his room now

dude

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341
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:48 PM

19. "I know it is snark, but I wouldn't have gone there."
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Tue Nov-22-11 01:59 PM

23. "It's humor, this wasn't MEET THE PRESS n/m"
In response to Reply # 19

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341
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:25 PM

28. "I know it's humor, but why bring the negative press on to oneself."
In response to Reply # 23
Tue Nov-22-11 03:26 PM by 341

In addition, why call a woman, who is running for President, a lying ass bitch in jest on national television? I don't get it. I know they did not say the words, but it was implied.

I am not a fan of Bachmann at all and I do feel like she has lied about various things. But I am not willing to call her a bitch. That is just me.

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Tue Nov-22-11 03:31 PM

30. "Is she running for president right now, is she *THE* GOP candidate?"
In response to Reply # 28

To my knowledge, there's a GOP debate tonight so no, she is not running for president and according to some polls, doesn't have a chance compared to the others who are still in the running.

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Tue Nov-22-11 04:28 PM

42. "Yes...she is the GOP canidate."
In response to Reply # 30

It still does not change my view on this.

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Austin
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:32 PM

45. "RE: No she's not."
In response to Reply # 42

She's ONE OF the people trying to get the Republican nomination for president. In the case that she does receive the nomination, THEN she will be THE candidate.

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341
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:39 PM

47. "I know...I know...long day at work. LOL"
In response to Reply # 45

I still feel like they should not have gone there.

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murph71
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:40 PM

48. "RE: No she's not."
In response to Reply # 45

>She's ONE OF the people trying to get the Republican
>nomination for president. In the case that she does receive
>the nomination, THEN she will be THE candidate.

What does it matter? She's the lone FEMALE candidate in the Republican field...We can loathe her all day (believe me...I do...lol)..But that's the point that's going to be made (and that is at the moment) by critics of the Roots in this instance...I think both of you are looking at it too much from a political angle...

It's a female/male thing that can cause trouble...

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:48 PM

50. "They didn't actually call her a bitch, though."
In response to Reply # 48

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Tue Nov-22-11 04:59 PM

52. "RE: They didn't actually call her a bitch, though."
In response to Reply # 50
Tue Nov-22-11 05:01 PM by murph71

Let's not play coy...lol

I for one don't find anything horrific about those dudes playing the song...It was played without the lyrics for a reason...It was snarky and kinda clever...

But I'm a dude...I'm sure there are women out there thinking differently on some, "Why you gotta play a song with bitch in the title with the only female Presidential candidate???"

Sometimes it's not about what you actually say...It's what people perceive that can cause greater headaches...

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CaptNish
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Tue Nov-22-11 05:36 PM

53. "I don't think they went too far at all, but THIS...."
In response to Reply # 52

>Sometimes it's not about what you actually say...It's what
>people perceive that can cause greater headaches...

...is fact.

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Wed Nov-23-11 11:55 AM

103. "well, she is a Representative."
In response to Reply # 30

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Wed Nov-23-11 11:58 PM

190. "a lot of people represent a lot of different parties, she is no differen..."
In response to Reply # 103

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Tue Nov-22-11 02:06 PM

24. "For real though, they didn't even say the word bitch..."
In response to Reply # 0

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:11 PM

25. "There's probably gonna be an apology."
In response to Reply # 0
Tue Nov-22-11 03:13 PM by AFKAP_of_Darkness

Though I'm sure NOBODY will be mad about the free publicity this has won the show (and undun)

There is NO way Jimmy can fire The Roots, though. Even if NBC wanted that, it would be cutting off the nose to spite the face.

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Ishwip
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:15 PM

26. "An apology would be so lame"
In response to Reply # 25

Just thinking about it made me uncomfortable.

If they do, hopefully it's one of those non-apology apologies ("we're sorry if anyone was offended").
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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CaptNish
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:30 PM

29. "You're close,,,"
In response to Reply # 26

>If they do, hopefully it's one of those non-apology apologies
>("we're sorry if anyone was offended").

"The show was not aware of it and I feel bad if her feelings were hurt," Thompson said. "That was not my intention."

http://news.yahoo.com/roots-welcome-bachmann-pointed-song-155646712.html

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Tue Nov-22-11 03:37 PM

32. "I love this comment here:"
In response to Reply # 29

"Amhir is the band's leader, that says it all. What a lying sack of crap, he completely planned using that song. More classless behavior from the left. If someone did that to Obama the media would be in hysteria for days-despite that fact he's a validated lying sack of crap many times over."

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Ishwip
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:38 PM

33. "PERFECT (c) SF 2"
In response to Reply # 29

>"I feel bad if her feelings were hurt," Thompson said. "That was not my >intention."

lol

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Getyohandouttamypocket
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:18 PM

27. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich..."
In response to Reply # 0

I loved it.

Fantastic get back for the Nascar crowd booing the First Lady on Sunday.

Keep shining The Almighty Roots Crew!!!

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Austin
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:42 PM

35. "RE: And this is the main thing here:"
In response to Reply # 27

People can call Bachmann irrelevant (which she is, in the national picture) but she still curates an idea of intolerance and sometimes even hate for "the other side." With all of the whining and complaining about the liberal media bias being magnified by people like her with their seeming quest for extremism and the unfortunate scenario of the loudest getting the most attention, it's kind of relieving that someone (on a rather large stage) finally said something in her opposition. Sure, it wasn't the nicest or most "PC" way of saying something, but I'm kind of thinking that the high road has seen enough traffic from our side in recent years.

I mean, besides the sentiment that she's a compulsive liar being right on the button.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/

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Ishwip
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Tue Nov-22-11 03:49 PM

36. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
In response to Reply # 35

>but I'm kind of thinking that the high road has
>seen enough traffic from our side in recent years.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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Tue Nov-22-11 07:50 PM

58. "RE: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
In response to Reply # 36

THIS!!!!

I understand why Obama has to take the high road, because he is representing all Americans. But regular people on the left are generally taking the high road to no avail. It's time we spoke up, not just the far left, but regular folk and call out these crazy extreme right idiots.

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Tue Nov-22-11 04:03 PM

37. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich..."
In response to Reply # 0

Shit about to get interesting...Excerpt from the Washington Post's
site...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/click-track/post/the-roots-serenade-michele-bachmann-with-fishbones-lyin-ass-bitch/2011/11/22/gIQAcjrElN_blog.html

"Two years back, we profiled Questlove and learned all about how the Roots pick songs for particular guests. Read that right here. And watch the video above. (You’ll have to jump ahead to the 22-minute mark.)

Update 11:53 a.m.: NBC appears to have removed the video."

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Tue Nov-22-11 04:06 PM

38. "RE: The video has been removed since at least 8.30am PST."
In response to Reply # 37

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murph71
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:27 PM

41. "RE: The video has been removed since at least 8.30am PST."
In response to Reply # 38

>~Austin

Indeed...But no one was covering it....The media now has picked up on it...That was my point...

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spew120
Member since Oct 02nd 2005
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Tue Nov-22-11 04:51 PM

51. "She really really really really deserved this, or worse"
In response to Reply # 0

Her scientifically unjustified comments about HPV inoculations put a
lot of parents into a panic/hysteria over their children's well-being.
She deserves much much much worse. Fear mongering like that should be
unacceptable and she should have been stripped of her role as
Representative.

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las raises
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Tue Nov-22-11 06:11 PM

54. "I hope the media doesn't blow this thing up too much"
In response to Reply # 0

Don't want The Roots to be in trouble

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murph71
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Tue Nov-22-11 06:25 PM

55. "RE: I hope the media doesn't blow this thing up too much"
In response to Reply # 54

>Don't want The Roots to be in trouble

Might be too late for that...I hope the guys do some damage control before this shit really snow balls...Now they have Democrats commenting on it...Remember folks...Any fallout that we will see from this won't be about politics...It's all about gender...I for one don't want to see these cats get buried over something so silly...

From the New York Daily News...

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2011/11/the-roots-filet-michele-bachmann-with-fishbone

"Rep. Nita Lowey said in a statement, “The choice of song to introduce Michele Bachmann on Late Night With Jimmy Fallon last night was insulting and inappropriate. I do not share Michele Bachmann’s politics, but she deserves to be treated with respect. No female politician – and no woman – should be subjected to sexist and offensive innuendo like she was last night. The Roots, Jimmy Fallon, and NBC should apologize.”

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BrooklynWHAT
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Tue Nov-22-11 06:49 PM

56. "lmao this shit bout to blow the fuck up"
In response to Reply # 54

they got it on Inside Edition and ET right now.

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Tue Nov-22-11 07:09 PM

57. "capitalize and start doing a smart tie-in to the Undun release"
In response to Reply # 0

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G_The_SP
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Tue Nov-22-11 07:55 PM

59. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich..."
In response to Reply # 0

But I suppose her and her husband damaging the lives of homosexual individuals through oppressive reform is ok. Fact of the matter is that she's a crazy lying ass bitch. This is true. WE all know this. People say this constantly off-camera. Playing a song that implies it without mouthing the words is not an act to me that justify punishment. People need to get over it. And this shouldn't be used as an opportunity for pseudo-feminist opportunists to try to put the "disrespectful to women" spin on it, because I think Bush is a lying ass bitch too. And so is Mccain, Herman Cain, that football coach that touched those little boys at Penn. State and a whole bunch of other niggas.

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murph71
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Tue Nov-22-11 08:45 PM

63. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich..."
In response to Reply # 59

>But I suppose her and her husband damaging the lives of
>homosexual individuals through oppressive reform is ok. Fact
>of the matter is that she's a crazy lying ass bitch. This is
>true. WE all know this. People say this constantly off-camera.
>Playing a song that implies it without mouthing the words is
>not an act to me that justify punishment. People need to get
>over it. And this shouldn't be used as an opportunity for
>pseudo-feminist opportunists to try to put the "disrespectful
>to women" spin on it, because I think Bush is a lying ass
>bitch too. And so is Mccain, Herman Cain, that football coach
>that touched those little boys at Penn. State and a whole
>bunch of other niggas.

You are mostly dead on about everything you said...Unfortunately, we (men) are not in the position to set the rules on what is disrespectful to women whether they be psedo-feminist or not...

Don't sleep on how crazy this shit can/will get...

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Phreak
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Tue Nov-22-11 08:08 PM

60. "Glenn Beck calls for The Roots to be fired from the show"
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-jimmy-fallons-a-%E2%80%98despicable-human-being%E2%80%99-who-%E2%80%98should-be-ashamed/

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liveguy
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Tue Nov-22-11 08:18 PM

62. "I call for Glenn Beck to be fired.......from this planet"
In response to Reply # 60

What a tool.

He called Obama a racist and he still kept his job.

Roots made fun of that Lying Ass Bitch....but THEY should be fired???

LOL!

That dude is comedy.

He's so hurt by what them negro's did to that crazy broad.

Again....he needs to be sent into outerspace....with no ship or oxygen tank...

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Tue Nov-22-11 10:42 PM

70. "RE: http://bit.ly/anvySr"
In response to Reply # 60
Tue Nov-22-11 10:48 PM by Austin

http://bit.ly/anvySr

Glenn Beck reminds me of Joe McCarthy post-people realizing he was insane.

Sad, in a way.

Hilarious in all others.

Anyone hear that Easter thing he did earlier this year about jesus over side A of Dark Side of the Moon?

He's like a street performer. Straining to get that quarter.

Mildly annoying. Completely harmless.

~Austin

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Ghetto Black
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Tue Nov-22-11 11:40 PM

76. "LOLLLLLLLLLL"
In response to Reply # 60
Wed Nov-23-11 12:00 AM by Ghetto Black

I love how he's feigning outrage when he's guilty of worse.

Quite the sanctimonious chap, aye?

FOH

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veritas
Member since Sep 16th 2002
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:49 PM

144. "that dude can't figure out his own hypocrisy. callin fallon a girl"
In response to Reply # 60

as an insult.

while he's mad that they implicitly called a woman a bitch.

who's really insulting women as a whole more there, pal?

mouthbreathing dumbfuck.

i still blame hip-hop.

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Tue Nov-22-11 08:11 PM

61. "I was here"
In response to Reply # 0

that is all.

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Tue Nov-22-11 08:59 PM

64. "?uestlove apologizes?"
In response to Reply # 0

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/jimmy-fallons-drummer-grounded-for-bachmanns-bitch-song/

The drummer for the house band on �Late Night with Jimmy Fallon� apologized sort of for his decision to play �Lyin� Ass Bitch� when Rep. Michele Bachmann appeared on the talk show Monday night.
�The performance was a tongue-in-cheek and spur of the moment decision. The show was not aware of it and I feel bad if her feelings were hurt. That was not my intention,� Ahmir �Questlove� Thompson said in a statement.
As Bachmann, congresswoman and GOP presidential contender, walked across the stage to sit next to Fallon Monday night, house band the Roots played a refrain from the song written by Fishbone.
Though the lyrics refer to a woman as a �slut trash can bitch,� the band sang the �la, la, la� of the refrain.
The band�s drummer sent a tweet prior to the show clueing viewers in on the song choice, writing: �late night walkon song devotees: you love it when we snark: this next one takes the cake. ask around cause i aint tweeting title.�
Later, he retweeted a fan�s reaction: �perfect entry song for her.�

Thompson�s initial tweet came prior to show making air, but after it had been taped earlier that evening.
Neither NBC, �Late Night� or Fallon himself would comment officially on the controversy .
Around noon Tuesday Fallon tweeted, �@Questlove is grounded.�
Thompson is a known supporter of President Obama and has contributed to his campaign. His Twitter account features a photograph of the drummer with the president.
Earlier Monday, Bachmann was asked on NBC�s �Today� show whether she believed she had been treated unfairly by the media because she is a woman.
�Sometimes you wonder about that,� she said. �I have no way of knowing.�
A spokesman for Bachmann did not immediately comment, but a colleague in the Congress came to her defense.
Rep. Nita Lowey, D- NY, called the song �sexist.�
�I do not share Michele Bachmann�s politcis,� said Lowey, �but she deserves to be treated with respect. No female politician � and no woman � should be subjected to sexist and offensive innuendo like she was last night.�

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boyd
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Tue Nov-22-11 09:14 PM

65. "and..."
In response to Reply # 64

our album comes out 12/06/11

>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/jimmy-fallons-drummer-grounded-for-bachmanns-bitch-song/
>
>The drummer for the house band on �Late Night with Jimmy
>Fallon� apologized sort of for his decision to play �Lyin� Ass
>Bitch� when Rep. Michele Bachmann appeared on the talk show
>Monday night.
>�The performance was a tongue-in-cheek and spur of the moment
>decision. The show was not aware of it and I feel bad if her
>feelings were hurt. That was not my intention,� Ahmir
>�Questlove� Thompson said in a statement.
>As Bachmann, congresswoman and GOP presidential contender,
>walked across the stage to sit next to Fallon Monday night,
>house band the Roots played a refrain from the song written
>by Fishbone.
>Though the lyrics refer to a woman as a �slut trash can
>bitch,� the band sang the �la, la, la� of the refrain.
>The band�s drummer sent a tweet prior to the show clueing
>viewers in on the song choice, writing: �late night walkon
>song devotees: you love it when we snark: this next one takes
>the cake. ask around cause i aint tweeting title.�
>Later, he retweeted a fan�s reaction: �perfect entry song for
>her.�
>
>Thompson�s initial tweet came prior to show making air, but
>after it had been taped earlier that evening.
>Neither NBC, �Late Night� or Fallon himself would comment
>officially on the controversy .
>Around noon Tuesday Fallon tweeted, �@Questlove is grounded.�
>Thompson is a known supporter of President Obama and has
>contributed to his campaign. His Twitter account features a
>photograph of the drummer with the president.
>Earlier Monday, Bachmann was asked on NBC�s �Today� show
>whether she believed she had been treated unfairly by the
>media because she is a woman.
>�Sometimes you wonder about that,� she said. �I have no way of
>knowing.�
>A spokesman for Bachmann did not immediately comment, but a
>colleague in the Congress came to her defense.
>Rep. Nita Lowey, D- NY, called the song �sexist.�
>�I do not share Michele Bachmann�s politcis,� said Lowey, �but
>she deserves to be treated with respect. No female politician
>� and no woman � should be subjected to sexist and offensive
>innuendo like she was last night.�

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Austin
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Tue Nov-22-11 11:36 PM

75. "RE: I appreciated the question mark at the end there."
In response to Reply # 64

Maybe "apologizes" would've been more accurate.

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Wordman
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Tue Nov-22-11 09:21 PM

66. "I am The Wordman and I support that walk-on intro"
In response to Reply # 0

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

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emeng
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Tue Nov-22-11 09:45 PM

67. "if they get fired, then all bad"
In response to Reply # 0

Otherwise this will blow over and not be of any consequence whatsoever.

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Jon
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Tue Nov-22-11 10:22 PM

69. "i def don't think they should be fired. but mayb they can bring her back"
In response to Reply # 67

and be all sweet and fuzzy this time and say sorry

nice to see quest at least say what he did

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Ghetto Black
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Tue Nov-22-11 11:43 PM

77. "fuck the dumb."
In response to Reply # 69

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Jon
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Tue Nov-22-11 10:16 PM

68. "Big Roots fan, Sandwiches fan, no Bachman fan, but this wasnt cool."
In response to Reply # 0
Tue Nov-22-11 10:16 PM by Jon

can't stand Glenn Beck, and yeah he seems to be forgetting all the dems-are-crazed-nazis-out-to-kill-grandma talk his friends spew

but

it pains me to say i feel him to a degree on this

its hurtful

and it doesn't promote any kind of progress

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Tue Nov-22-11 10:52 PM

71. "Yep"
In response to Reply # 68
Tue Nov-22-11 10:53 PM by makaveli

i think this was a bad move. i love the roots and don't like that woman but i just don't like what they did. of course i don't want them to be fired, i just wish they hadn't have done that.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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mrhood75
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Tue Nov-22-11 11:09 PM

72. "Oh fuck Glenn Beck and his fake moral outrage in the eye-socket"
In response to Reply # 68
Tue Nov-22-11 11:11 PM by mrhood75

With a rusty-screwdriver even.

He regularly compares Obama and countless other Democrats to Adolf Hitler on a daily basis. Compare the president to someone who killed MILLIONS and was out to conquer the world, and hey, it's fair political comment, not "hurtful." But call Bachman a bitch and you're ranting and raving about how it's over the line. The guy can lick my fucking balls.

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murph71
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Tue Nov-22-11 11:21 PM

74. "Jimmy F. apologizes...Huffington Post"
In response to Reply # 72
Tue Nov-22-11 11:32 PM by murph71

>With a rusty-screwdriver even.
>
>He regularly compares Obama and countless other Democrats to
>Adolf Hitler on a daily basis. Compare the president to
>someone who killed MILLIONS and was out to conquer the world,
>and hey, it's fair political comment, not "hurtful." But call
>Bachman a bitch and you're ranting and raving about how it's
>over the line. The guy can lick my fucking balls.

Beck is a crazed, wack job-level, idiot diversion who deserves to be locked in a closet with a bucket of piss...

He's not propelling this story...And he's not the reason why the Roots are catching hell...Beck is the last person people should be talking about...He's a joke...

In other words, Beck's past racist behavior is moot in regards to the Roots' late show shit storm...

If I was the Roots I would prepare to write an apology letter directly to Bachmann (or at least reach out to that loon)...Don't laugh....It sounds crazy, but you have to understand what's about to go down...It's about to get CRAZY for Quest and the boys...

---

The Roots' Michele Bachmann Intro: Jimmy Fallon Apologizes For 'Mess'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/jimmy-fallon-apologizes-for-roots-michelle-bachmann_n_1108996.html?ref=entertainment

Seeking to quell growing criticism and public attention, "Late Night" host Jimmy Fallon has apologized for his house band's understated musical attack on Rep. Michele Bachmann on Monday night.

"I'm honored that @michelebachmann was on our show yesterday and I'm so sorry about the intro mess. I really hope she comes back," Fallon wrote on Twitter Tuesday night.

When Bachmann, who appeared as a guest on Fallon's show, walked across the stage to take her seat next to the host's desk, The Roots played the opening of a song by Fishbone called "Lyin' Ass Bitch."

While the audience only heard a "la la" refrain, the message was sent. Before the show, the band's drummer, Questlove tweeted, "aight late night walkon song devotees: you love it when we snark: this next one takes the cake. ask around cause i aint tweeting title."

Earlier on Tuesday, Fallon tweeted, "@questlove is grounded."

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Austin
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:02 AM

79. "RE: Maybe the fact that it's a talk show distinguishes it. . ."
In response to Reply # 74

. . .but, c'mon. . .

Did Ed Murrow ever apologize?

(answering myself: no � and he shouldn't have)

His attacks were much more meaningful and emotional. Granted, a bit more well-articulated. But nonetheless scathing.

Take the "bitch" part out and you get the summarized version of what he was saying to McCarthyism.

I mean, it's hard to imagine we actually had even crazier elected officials in this country than Bachmann.

This country has become more conservative-leaning in its "political-correctedness" to its own detriment.

Joe McCarthy whipped the country into a paranoid fury before post-internet mass media was a thing � and even he had his detractors.

I, for one, find it comforting that a lunatic like Bachmann can get knocked down a few pegs � albeit, in a less than desirable fashion. But, even then, she's not even a likely contender for president anyway. I say, knock her down, if for nothing else than a reality check. She has become a laughing stock of the nation. In the case that she's unaware, this is the reality that she needs.

Questo, I'm sure, will gladly take the fall for the perceived "liberal bias" if it means getting idiots like her out of public office.

~Austin

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:26 AM

81. "man..."
In response to Reply # 79
Wed Nov-23-11 02:50 AM by denny

I wish they didn't do it. They didn't think this one out. Here's the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqeVjopXLWI

It's just rude and sleazie to me. "thank u for `oming on our show U I appre`iate u being here" and kisses and embra`e while plaing 'lieing ass bit`h' on the slie?

An obs`ure song from a non-mainstream band....I'm thinking it's an inside joke that got outted and probablie wasn't designed in the thoughts that it would be widelie understood.

But it's a 'dinner for smuks' thing. And when the smuks find out what u're up to....u failed. And it looks kowardlie. Making fun of people unbeknownst is highly overated. Not very honourable.

I think it's a mistake....wouldn't disrespkt ? if he desides to apologize though. I kall it....being a little too klever klever and misjudging if an inside joke is gonna stay inside. Also...not seeing how the joke was gonna pla/ out. ie...Jimmie's warm welkome while the song is pla/ing. I kan see how it `ame off a little different than probablie intended.

To me....a semi-honest mistake. Easilie overlookable though.

Hopefullie...it all just dies down. Tough move for ? and I'm feeling for him. Kan't kall it a koinkidink. Just gotta hope it dies off and Fallon's let off the hook.

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makaveli
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Wed Nov-23-11 09:36 AM

89. "This Isn't About Whether Or Not Someone Else Apologized"
In response to Reply # 79

It's a completely different situation.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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Ishwip
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:00 AM

78. "^BOOM^"
In response to Reply # 72

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:29 AM

82. "To be fifair, I think Beck's big problem is with the 'sneakiness'"
In response to Reply # 72

or "two-facedness" of the attack

Like, Beck makes a lot of ignorant attacks on people, but he does it straight up... even those dumb NASCAR rednecks who booed Michelle O made sure there was no doubt about their feelings.

I'll admit that it feels kinda.... I dunno, disingenuous... to have Bachmann on the show, with Jimmy smiling and laughing and playing word-association games with her so that she walks away thinking she had a great time and everybody was so nice, but on the low, they're clowning her in a secret code without her knowledge.

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Poorspellir
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Wed Nov-23-11 08:01 AM

85. "RE: To be fifair, I think Beck's big problem is with the 'sneakiness'"
In response to Reply # 82

I agree with you somewhat, it's sort of the equivalent of flipping someone off while you pretend to scratch your forehead. But they definitely get props from me for having the balls to do something, instead of sitting across from someone you dislike and playing nice. I don't think I would've been that brave.

Apologies have since been made, looking forward to moving on.

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 11:35 AM

99. "uh....you copping pleas for Glenn Beck now???"
In response to Reply # 82
Wed Nov-23-11 11:38 AM by Warren Coolidge

>or "two-facedness" of the attack
>
>Like, Beck makes a lot of ignorant attacks on people, but he
>does it straight up... even those dumb NASCAR rednecks who
>booed Michelle O made sure there was no doubt about their
>feelings.

by it's nature...to disrespect people who are not in your presence while you are disrespecting them is by nature "sneaky" and not "straight up". Sitting on the radio or the tv and talking about people who are not there to confront you is not a straight up attack... If you straight up....say it to the person...in their presence or in some venue where you can be challenged and confronted on what is being said.

Michelle Bachman was right there when the Roots played that song. It's not like they did a concert and said, "this one is dedicated to Michelle Bachmann"

>
>I'll admit that it feels kinda.... I dunno, disingenuous... to
>have Bachmann on the show, with Jimmy smiling and laughing and
>playing word-association games with her so that she walks away
>thinking she had a great time and everybody was so nice, but
>on the low, they're clowning her in a secret code without her
>knowledge.

right...and I don't think Jimmy Fallon knew about this before hand....and even if he may have, he wasn't in on the planning.

the other thing...this wasn't a general diss....it was a specific one.... Michelle Bachmann's claims that the so-called forefathers of the country fought hard to end slavery and fought for all Americans to be equal is an agregious lie. I mean if she was in Germany and claimed that the Nazi's fought hard to free the Jews....she could be charged with a crime for simply making the statement...

so the playing of the that particular song was more than applicable to her.

Nicely done Quest...

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murph71
Member since Sep 15th 2005
23113 posts

Wed Nov-23-11 12:00 PM

104. "RE: uh....you copping pleas for Glenn Beck now???"
In response to Reply # 99

>the other thing...this wasn't a general diss....it was a
>specific one.... Michelle Bachmann's claims that the so-called
>forefathers of the country fought hard to end slavery and
>fought for all Americans to be equal is an agregious lie. I
>mean if she was in Germany and claimed that the Nazi's fought
>hard to free the Jews....she could be charged with a crime for
>simply making the statement...
>
>so the playing of the that particular song was more than
>applicable to her.
>
>Nicely done Quest...

No one is beefing about the "lying" part of the diss, though...Hell, it could be said that Bachmann is more of a moron than a liar (I think Palin is both...lol)..

I think we as men are missing the entire point...It's the word "bitch"....

That's what a lot of folks are taking issue with, not playing a song that has "lying" in the title...Trust me...this shit would not be catching this much traction if that was the only issue...

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:12 PM

107. "it is an offensive term.....and it was meant to be offensive"
In response to Reply # 104

the connotation of playing that song was very specific, and if that was what Quest and them wanted to communicate, then they are taking ownership for the connotation...

if that's what they intdended...then they can stand on what they did. Maybe some wouldn't have done it...but they made the decision to do it, and that's it...

it wasn't flagrant...it was subtle...but specific..

I have no problem with it. This woman has been on the public stage saying many very offensive things over the last few years. When you are a public figure...you have to expcect people to form opinions about what is being.

my main problem was with afkap trying to "legitimize" what Glen Beck does by framing it as a fair "straight up" discourse, when it's the exact opposite..

if you disagree what the Roots did..fine, but you ain't got to misrepresent what Glen Beck does just to be critical of what the Roots did.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:20 PM

108. "RE: it is an offensive term.....and it was meant to be offensive"
In response to Reply # 107

>the connotation of playing that song was very specific, and
>if that was what Quest and them wanted to communicate, then
>they are taking ownership for the connotation...
>
>if that's what they intdended...then they can stand on what
>they did. Maybe some wouldn't have done it...but they made the
>decision to do it, and that's it...
>
>it wasn't flagrant...it was subtle...but specific..
>
>I have no problem with it. This woman has been on the public
>stage saying many very offensive things over the last few
>years. When you are a public figure...you have to expcect
>people to form opinions about what is being.
>
>my main problem was with afkap trying to "legitimize" what
>Glen Beck does by framing it as a fair "straight up"
>discourse, when it's the exact opposite..
>
>if you disagree what the Roots did..fine, but you ain't got to
>misrepresent what Glen Beck does just to be critical of what
>the Roots did.

This ain't about Glenn Beck...He's a smoke screen...

Again, you and I are men, Warren...We are not women...So that B word is powerful stuff...

It's not about whether or not I agree or disagree...I for one don't think it was a monsterous thing that the Roots did...I don't think the Roots were being evil...But I'm not naive...I have enough sense to know how it looks for a hip-hop band to play a song with word "bitch" in it as a female politician walks out...

Again, it ain't rocket science...

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:27 PM

110. "RE: it is an offensive term.....and it was meant to be offensive"
In response to Reply # 108

>>the connotation of playing that song was very specific, and
>>if that was what Quest and them wanted to communicate, then
>>they are taking ownership for the connotation...
>>
>>if that's what they intdended...then they can stand on what
>>they did. Maybe some wouldn't have done it...but they made
>the
>>decision to do it, and that's it...
>>
>>it wasn't flagrant...it was subtle...but specific..
>>
>>I have no problem with it. This woman has been on the public
>>stage saying many very offensive things over the last few
>>years. When you are a public figure...you have to expcect
>>people to form opinions about what is being.
>>
>>my main problem was with afkap trying to "legitimize" what
>>Glen Beck does by framing it as a fair "straight up"
>>discourse, when it's the exact opposite..
>>
>>if you disagree what the Roots did..fine, but you ain't got
>to
>>misrepresent what Glen Beck does just to be critical of what
>>the Roots did.
>
>This ain't about Glenn Beck...He's a smoke screen...

My comment to Afkap was about Glen Beck. 'kap made a false assertion about the nature of what Glen Beck does. I felt it needed to be addressed.

>
>Again, you and I are men, Warren...We are not women...So that
>B word is powerful stuff...
>
>It's not about whether or not I agree or disagree...I for one
>don't think it was a monsterous thing that the Roots did...I
>don't think the Roots were being evil...But I'm not naive...I
>have enough sense to know how it looks for a hip-hop band to
>play a song with word "bitch" in it as a female politician
>walks out...
>
>Again, it ain't rocket science...

I agree with you...but Quest made the decision that doing this was worth it...it was applicable...

I'm not about saying the B word just for saying its sake....but I am for Hip hop..music...art...and really people in general being bold and making statements that require courage. You know they put their regular paying jobs on the line to do this.... I find it somewhat admirable in that sense.

when someone goes out of pocket with something regardless of the consequences to themselves, I respect that..even if I don't agree with their sentiments.

and really....this was pretty tame..I'd say what Letterman said about Palin's daughter was way worse.

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:46 PM

115. "LMAO!!!!"
In response to Reply # 99

>by it's nature...to disrespect people who are not in your
>presence while you are disrespecting them is by nature
>"sneaky" and not "straight up". Sitting on the radio or the tv
>and talking about people who are not there to confront you is
>not a straight up attack... If you straight up....say it to
>the person...in their presence or in some venue where you can
>be challenged and confronted on what is being said.
>
>Michelle Bachman was right there when the Roots played that
>song. It's not like they did a concert and said, "this one is
>dedicated to Michelle Bachmann"

Man... You will do ANYTHING... twist up reality into so many strange shapes just to contradict me, huh?

Whether or not you are physically present, if I say "Warren, you are an annoying dickwad who stalks me across the boards," it is a straight-up statement because I have left you with no doubt regarding my feelings about you.

On the other hand, if we met at an OKP RE and I was acting all buddy-buddy with you while secretly making faces behind your back... that shit is sneaky and two-faced.

I think any adult with a functional moral compass could see this.

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:33 PM

157. "Address what you were called on, or keep it moving..."
In response to Reply # 115

>>by it's nature...to disrespect people who are not in your
>>presence while you are disrespecting them is by nature
>>"sneaky" and not "straight up". Sitting on the radio or the
>tv
>>and talking about people who are not there to confront you
>is
>>not a straight up attack... If you straight up....say it to
>>the person...in their presence or in some venue where you
>can
>>be challenged and confronted on what is being said.
>>
>>Michelle Bachman was right there when the Roots played that
>>song. It's not like they did a concert and said, "this one
>is
>>dedicated to Michelle Bachmann"
>
>Man... You will do ANYTHING... twist up reality into so many
>strange shapes just to contradict me, huh?
>
>Whether or not you are physically present, if I say "Warren,
>you are an annoying dickwad who stalks me across the boards,"
>it is a straight-up statement because I have left you with no
>doubt regarding my feelings about you.
>
>On the other hand, if we met at an OKP RE and I was acting all
>buddy-buddy with you while secretly making faces behind your
>back... that shit is sneaky and two-faced.
>
>I think any adult with a functional moral compass could see
>this.

"Like, Beck makes a lot of ignorant attacks on people, but he does it straight up"

you were confronted on this. Your response does not address what you said about Glen Beck. So unless you are going to speak on that, don't waste your time.

You characterized a person who has never confronted ANY of the people he has lied or disrespected ...as being "straight up". Talking about people on the radio, and the TV...with not only the object of his comments, or anyone with a different point of view to challenge what is being said is the exact opposite of coming at someone straight up.

like I said....disagree with the Roots doing this all you want, but do not try and give Glen Beck props for going at people straight up when all he does is purposely say things he knows he will never be challenged on.

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:54 PM

164. "I already addressed it."
In response to Reply # 157

>"Like, Beck makes a lot of ignorant attacks on people, but he
>does it straight up"
>
>you were confronted on this. Your response does not address
>what you said about Glen Beck. So unless you are going to
>speak on that, don't waste your time.

I said that if Glenn Beck does not like someone, he insults them directly. He makes it clear that he is not a fan.

He does not cosy up to them and pretend to be friends while talking about them behind their back.

(I mean, he might do that in personal life, I dunno... but in terms of his political/entertainment career, he calls a spade a spade)

If you can't understand--AS A MAN--why this is less disingenuous than stealth-dissing someone while giving them impression of being cool with them, then you're more bitchmade than even I could have ever imagined.

Even Malcolm X addressed an issue similar to this, talking about how he prefers Southern whites to the Northern liberals because at least the peckerwood will straight-up call you a nigger as opposed to the liberals who will pretend to respect you to your face and talk the same dirty shit when you're not around.

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 03:11 PM

167. "RE: I already addressed it."
In response to Reply # 164

>>"Like, Beck makes a lot of ignorant attacks on people, but
>he
>>does it straight up"
>>
>>you were confronted on this. Your response does not address
>>what you said about Glen Beck. So unless you are going to
>>speak on that, don't waste your time.
>
>I said that if Glenn Beck does not like someone, he insults
>them directly. He makes it clear that he is not a fan.

insulting someone on the radio or the TV when that person is not around is not insulting them directly. Insulting someone with no one around to challenge what is said is not insulting them directly.

you sir are wrong.

>
>He does not cosy up to them and pretend to be friends while
>talking about them behind their back.

nor does he say any of those things to that person, or to anyone who will challenge what he says.

>
>(I mean, he might do that in personal life, I dunno... but in
>terms of his political/entertainment career, he calls a spade
>a spade)

Call a spade TO a spade..then you are being direct. The political right is full of people who cannot support their points of view when in the same company as the object of their scorn. But look on the political Left and you see constant attempts to engage the other side in debate of the issues. The right cannot do that because their views are based on lies, and juvenille rhetoric.

Glen Beck is the epitome of the crazy cowardice on the right. Hannity too. You'll never see them put themselves in a situation to defend their views against those who they are attacking. Ever.

>
>If you can't understand--AS A MAN--why this is less
>disingenuous than stealth-dissing someone while giving them
>impression of being cool with them, then you're more bitchmade
>than even I could have ever imagined.

then as a man why have you referred to multiple Black Female artists as that same term???

dude...miss me.

>Even Malcolm X addressed an issue similar to this, talking
>about how he prefers Southern whites to the Northern liberals
>because at least the peckerwood will straight-up call you a
>nigger as opposed to the liberals who will pretend to respect
>you to your face and talk the same dirty shit when you're not
>around.

then instead of Glen Beck, use as an example a person who actually speaks TO the object of their scorn in that person's proximity...

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171. "Like I said: more bitchmade than I could have imagined."
In response to Reply # 167

>insulting someone on the radio or the TV when that person is
>not around is not insulting them directly. Insulting someone
>with no one around to challenge what is said is not insulting
>them directly.
>
>you sir are wrong.

Oooooooooookay.

>>If you can't understand--AS A MAN--why this is less
>>disingenuous than stealth-dissing someone while giving them
>>impression of being cool with them, then you're more
>bitchmade
>>than even I could have ever imagined.
>
>then as a man why have you referred to multiple Black Female
>artists as that same term???

Yes... Let's make this about ME.

That's what it's ALWAYS about with you, isn't it?

Just... Just back off and stop standing so close to me. You're weirding me out.

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mrhood75
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Wed Nov-23-11 03:45 PM

173. "Okay, I'm deading this now: both of y'all need to knock it off"
In response to Reply # 171

I almost wrote this earlier today in the hopes this wasn't going to escalate, but it appears we've reached that point.

This is the only thread in this forum where people are discussing this issue, and I do NOT want this thread derailed by y'all getting into your usual argument. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, and I respect both of y'all. But I'm not gonna allow 50 more back and forth responses like this.

So please, if you want to continue this, take it to the inboxes. Thank you.

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175. "lol...issue is deaded as far as I'm concerned.. if you're good with"
In response to Reply # 171
Wed Nov-23-11 04:17 PM by Warren Coolidge

being the guy who has fronted Black Female artists off on this board with that same term....now getting your drawers in a bunch when the "beautiful" Michele Bachmann gets it.....

whatever makes your boat float player..

carry on.

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denny
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Wed Nov-23-11 08:42 PM

182. "THIS:"
In response to Reply # 115

>On the other hand, if we met at an OKP RE and I was acting all
>buddy-buddy with you while secretly making faces behind your
>back... that shit is sneaky and two-faced.

There are various factors in when 'making fun of someone on the sly' is somewhat acceptable.

For one...there should be a certain level of expectation that they SHOULD know or COULD know what you're getting at. There is no reasonable expectation that Bachman should be familiar with a Fishbone album cut from 1986 or whenever. Leaving her with no way of responding which is not fair. For example...playing 'Bomb Iran' for Mccain was cool with me.

But this one is just not honourable. Immature kid's stuff. And it's made worse because in the analogy above...the OKP RE would have to be hosted at AFKAP's house and he would have had to invite Warren as well....Making it even more immature/two-faced.

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Wed Nov-23-11 11:52 AM

102. "She's the most willfully oblivious and disingenuous person..."
In response to Reply # 82

...running for President right now. The falsehoods she spreads every time she speaks are kind of mind-blowing. So ?uest and them were showing their disapproval in a way that they normally do. Some people boo the first lady when they see her, some ?uest uses music as his weapon, just like he always has. Hell, they did something similar (though clearly not as blunt) when John McCain was there. McCain "got" it. As some have said, my main problem with it is that he so clearly called his shot before-hand, making it less "clever."

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Wed Nov-23-11 02:52 AM

83. "fuck all them bitches."
In response to Reply # 68

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137. "RE: fuck all them bitches."
In response to Reply # 83

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Tue Nov-22-11 11:13 PM

73. "booing the first lady is okay, but a president hopeful wasnt?"
In response to Reply # 0

fuck glenn beck

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:40 AM

80. "jimmy's audience shoulda booed her ass"
In response to Reply # 73

..|.,

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Wed Nov-23-11 08:58 AM

87. "They did."
In response to Reply # 80

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Wed Nov-23-11 03:55 AM

84. "I was late and this was great."
In response to Reply # 0

What the blood claaat ???

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d_Benjamin_m
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Wed Nov-23-11 09:14 AM

88. "what was witty, or tongue in cheek about this though?"
In response to Reply # 0

i thought that was the whole reason for the walk on "burn"

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Wed Nov-23-11 09:40 AM

90. "This Isn't About What Other People Did"
In response to Reply # 0

Just because people booed the first lady doesn't make it right for the roots to do what they did. And yeah, glenn beck is an idiot, but i just think what they did was wrong.

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Gloworm
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Wed Nov-23-11 11:20 AM

98. "i agree."
In response to Reply # 90

Two wrongs (or in Bachmann's case a number of wrongs) don't make a right.

I don't agree with her politics whatsoever, but I don't support calling her a "bitch" on the sly. No more than I would want Michelle Obama called that. On those on the other side feel just as negative about her.. for some reason.
I have a feeling that the indulgence to be snarky and witty may not work out in the band's favor. I hope NBC rides this out with them.

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Dr Claw
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Wed Nov-23-11 09:51 AM

91. "it was 'wrong'? GOOD."
In response to Reply # 0

sorry, dogg. they shouldn't indulge the LittleX-ass myth of the "liberal bias" for this one.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 10:02 AM

92. "RE: it was 'wrong'? GOOD."
In response to Reply # 91

>sorry, dogg. they shouldn't indulge the LittleX-ass myth of
>the "liberal bias" for this one.

You thinking too politically about this one Doc....Being liberal or conservative is not even the issue...

The issue is whether or not such a song played during Bachmann's walk in can be viewed as disrespectful to women....That trumps everything...

The politics are just a smoke screen.....

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Dr Claw
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Wed Nov-23-11 10:28 AM

93. "I know and recognize that. "
In response to Reply # 92

and yet, it has all the gravity (in this specific instance) of a single drop of monkey urine in the Pacific Ocean.

this is really a "JLOLB" moment... but of course the United Nations of Asswipia will make a mountain out of this ant hill...

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Wed Nov-23-11 10:46 AM

95. ""
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Nov-23-11 11:01 AM by Anonymous

first off�Fuck Glen Beck.

That guy is a complete idiot and is so beyond sanity at this point he shouldn't even be allowed to speak into a microphone.

second�I am ALL for freedom of speech and being political in music and cracking jokes on candidates and whatever else.

BUT�my issue is this;

If the idea of being slick about the music you play for people to walk out to�DON'T TELL EVERYONE YOU'RE DOING IT!

I could go on about how juvenile this whole thing is with people tweeting and giggling and then apologizing but I won't go into depth.

That will only take the focus off of the issue that should be a non issue and an inside joke if people didn't feel as though they needed to broadcast their 'cleverness' so that others will acknowledge it.

Not to mention�they purposely edit the word "bitch" out of their albums.

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thembi
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Wed Nov-23-11 10:49 AM

96. "I like this....."
In response to Reply # 0

look at their album covers...lets dig deep into the roots....they needed this....smart move...

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 10:54 AM

97. "yea hopefully"
In response to Reply # 96

this publicity will turn out to be good for their album sales.

it works for everyone else.

that would be nice to push them to the platinum status.

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 11:42 AM

100. "Great move...loved it....long as it don't cost them anything..."
In response to Reply # 0

brillant move...

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101. "wonder about the effect on fishbone's download sales..."
In response to Reply # 0

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Wed Nov-23-11 12:10 PM

105. "Bachmann: Roots Song On Fallon Sexist, Demands NBC Apology (Huffington P..."
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Nov-23-11 12:22 PM by murph71

For those who think this is a game, think again...If Jimmy and the Roots are smart, they should just suspend Quest a few days to keep the dogs off of NBC's and the Roots' back...Don't give these bastards the satisfaction of chasing the Roots off a great gig for good...Because that's what some media people are now getting at...And that would be a shame...It's chess not checkers folks...

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First Posted: 11/23/11 11:32 AM ET Updated: 11/23/11 12:10 PM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/23/bachmann-outrage-at-roots_n_1110225.html

Huffington Post

Michele Bachmann has spoken out and demanded an apology for the song played by the Roots, the "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" house band, when she was introduced as a guest Monday night. Bachmann called the song, "Lyin' Ass Bitch" by Fishbone, sexist and a sign of Hollywood's bias.

She was unaware of the significance of the song's title at the time, she said, but was later angered to hear its meaning.

"I think the point is," she told Fox News's America's Newsroom, "if that had been Michelle Obama who had come out on the stage, and if that song had been played for Michelle Obama, I have no doubt that NBC would have apologized to her and likely they could have fired the drummer, at least suspended him, none of that happened from NBC and this is clearly a form of bias on the part of the Hollywood entertainment elite but it’s also I think it’s sexism as well."

The First Lady was booed by fans at a NASCAR race at the Homestead-Miami Speedway on Sunday, for which the racing circuit later apologized.

Questlove, the band's drummer who tweeted about the song before he played it on Monday, gave a semi-apology to ABC News on Tuesday, saying, "The performance was a tongue-in-cheek and spur of the moment decision. The show was not aware of it and I feel bad if her feelings were hurt. That was not my intention."

As for Fallon, who apologized Tuesday night and said he hoped that Bachmann would return to the show, the Minnesota Republican was forgiving.

"I am hoping to be able to speak to Jimmy Fallon today," she said. "I don’t have anything against Jimmy Fallon, I love him, he’s a kick, it was a great opportunity to be on the show, I’d love to go back again."

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:22 PM

109. "wow...she's so clueless"
In response to Reply # 105

>"I think the point is," she told Fox News's America's
>Newsroom, "if that had been Michelle Obama who had come out on
>the stage, and if that song had been played for Michelle
>Obama, I have no doubt that NBC would have apologized to her
>and likely they could have fired the drummer, at least
>suspended him, none of that happened from NBC and this is
>clearly a form of bias on the part of the Hollywood
>entertainment elite but it’s also I think it’s sexism as
>well."

yeah lady.... That song wouldn't be played for Michelle Obama.

if that cap fits.....

if people like Bachman were held accountable for their lies, disrespect and the false claims they've made....you wouldn't need the roots to do this. But the right can make whatever claims they want without being challenged aggresively and disgraced publiclly when it's deserved.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:27 PM

111. "RE: wow...she's so clueless"
In response to Reply # 109
Wed Nov-23-11 12:28 PM by murph71

>>"I think the point is," she told Fox News's America's
>>Newsroom, "if that had been Michelle Obama who had come out
>on
>>the stage, and if that song had been played for Michelle
>>Obama, I have no doubt that NBC would have apologized to her
>>and likely they could have fired the drummer, at least
>>suspended him, none of that happened from NBC and this is
>>clearly a form of bias on the part of the Hollywood
>>entertainment elite but it’s also I think it’s sexism as
>>well."
>
>
>yeah lady.... That song wouldn't be played for Michelle
>Obama.
>
>if that cap fits.....
>
>if people like Bachman were held accountable for their lies,
>disrespect and the false claims they've made....you wouldn't
>need the roots to do this. But the right can make whatever
>claims they want without being challenged aggresively and
>disgraced publiclly when it's deserved.

It's going over your head, Warren...lol...Take the politics out of it...Take Bachmann's bullshit dogma out of it...Take the lying ass FOX Machine out of it...

What do you have left?

A WHITE woman who *looks* like she is defending herself against BLACK men after being called a bitch...

It doesn't get more black/white than that...Right or wrong, this is how it looks...

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:35 PM

113. "and??"
In response to Reply # 111

>>>"I think the point is," she told Fox News's America's
>>>Newsroom, "if that had been Michelle Obama who had come out
>>on
>>>the stage, and if that song had been played for Michelle
>>>Obama, I have no doubt that NBC would have apologized to
>her
>>>and likely they could have fired the drummer, at least
>>>suspended him, none of that happened from NBC and this is
>>>clearly a form of bias on the part of the Hollywood
>>>entertainment elite but it’s also I think it’s sexism
>as
>>>well."
>>
>>
>>yeah lady.... That song wouldn't be played for Michelle
>>Obama.
>>
>>if that cap fits.....
>>
>>if people like Bachman were held accountable for their lies,
>>disrespect and the false claims they've made....you wouldn't
>>need the roots to do this. But the right can make whatever
>>claims they want without being challenged aggresively and
>>disgraced publiclly when it's deserved.
>
>
>It's going over your head, Warren...lol...Take the politics
>out of it...Take Bachmann's bullshit dogma out of it...Take
>the lying ass FOX Machine out of it...
>
>What do you have left?
>
>A WHITE woman who *looks* like she is defending herself
>against BLACK men after being called a bitch...
>
>It doesn't get more black/white than that...Right or wrong,
>this is how it looks...

so what?

This is 2011....we don't have to step aside when a white woman walks down the street..

I really don't care how it looks...and obviously Quest didn't either. Which is all the more reason why I respect the move.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:51 PM

118. "RE: and??"
In response to Reply # 113

>so what?
>
>This is 2011....we don't have to step aside when a white woman
>walks down the street..
>
>I really don't care how it looks...and obviously Quest didn't
>either. Which is all the more reason why I respect the move.

You really think I'm talking about some "don't look a white woman in the eyes" shit...ha!...U know me better than that, homie...

There's a lot of angles to this...There's the "hip-hop" angle, there's the race angle...

But the angle that KILLS everything is the female angle...And that's the point I'm making here...

You see, if Quest and guys really wanted to pull this off in a more "chess" like manner they could have simply played Henry Rollins' "Liar"...Or how about "Don't Speak Liar" from We The Kings...Or how about Beyonce's "Beautiful Liar?"

U see where I'm going with this?

The B word gives the other side too much to run with...It's a license to say, "Hey, fire that band....they are sexist assholes..."

That's the issue...Don't ever give the other side a boneheaded opening....

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:53 PM

119. "Damn... If only Owen was still around!"
In response to Reply # 118

>There's a lot of angles to this...There's the "hip-hop" angle,
>there's the race angle...

"Beautiful Liar" would have been nice, though... Because that lady really is not rough to look at (crazy eyes and everything)

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Luke Cage
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Wed Nov-23-11 11:27 PM

188. "Those crazy ass eyes"
In response to Reply # 119

>>There's a lot of angles to this...There's the "hip-hop"
>angle,
>>there's the race angle...
>
>"Beautiful Liar" would have been nice, though... Because that
>lady really is not rough to look at (crazy eyes and
>everything)

Would shrivel up the hardest dick. No wonder she had to find a gay man to marry her.

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Warren Coolidge
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:44 PM

160. "who cares how it looked?? It was meant to look that way..that's the poi..."
In response to Reply # 118

>
>>so what?
>>
>>This is 2011....we don't have to step aside when a white
>woman
>>walks down the street..
>>
>>I really don't care how it looks...and obviously Quest
>didn't
>>either. Which is all the more reason why I respect the move.
>
>
>You really think I'm talking about some "don't look a white
>woman in the eyes" shit...ha!...U know me better than that,
>homie...
>
>There's a lot of angles to this...There's the "hip-hop" angle,
>there's the race angle...
>
>But the angle that KILLS everything is the female angle...And
>that's the point I'm making here...

I see you point...I do. I'm just saying that I don't believe that because of how it looked from the "female angle" that means they shouldn't have done it...

she gets out there running her mouth.... doesn't matter if she's a woman or not. They didn't "directly" call her that...it was indirect, yet specific...and that's why I have no problem with it.

>
>You see, if Quest and guys really wanted to pull this off in a
>more "chess" like manner they could have simply played Henry
>Rollins' "Liar"...Or how about "Don't Speak Liar" from We The
>Kings...Or how about Beyonce's "Beautiful Liar?"

or Quest could have not tweeted about it before the broadcast. He should have left it to urban legend, and when asked about it say that he didn't know what folks were talking about. I mean that's what I would have done. But I'm not mad at him for standing by the decision to play the song..

and yes ..they could have chosen a diffent song..... me..I would have done Too Short's She's a b......lol.

>U see where I'm going with this?
>
I do. I think how they did it just doesn't bother me as much. I think it was worth the scrutiny...I mean as long as they don't get fired.

>The B word gives the other side too much to run with...It's a
>license to say, "Hey, fire that band....they are sexist
>assholes..."

See me....I don't care what the other side has to run with. It doesn't matter what they have to run with because we are talking about a group of people with no integrity whatsoever and no desire to speak the truth about anything. They are ignorant, undersocialized, racist clowns who should not be afford respects that you would give to reasonable people.

and honestly ..what saves the Roots on this is that they didn't call the woman anything....it was an indirect jab.

>
>That's the issue...Don't ever give the other side a boneheaded
>opening....

sometimes you need to smack the otherside in the mouth. they've earned it.

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mrhood75
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:40 PM

114. "Why should we take her bullshit dogma out of it if she insists..."
In response to Reply # 111

..on inserting it into it? If it was really as simple "A man called a woman a bitch", then she couldn't have said, "They implied I was a bitch, it was offensive, they should apologize." Which, you know, they did.

Instead, she spouts her bullshit about "Well, if it was Michelle Obama, MBC would have fired them" and carries on about the "bias of Hollywood elite." If she can't talk about this without using her own bullshit dogma, then why should anyone else?

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Wed Nov-23-11 12:48 PM

116. "exactly..... people have to stop letting these clowns play by "
In response to Reply # 114

different rules...

take it to these people's chest and make them stand on the nonsense they say..

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:00 PM

122. "RE: Why should we take her bullshit dogma out of it if she insists..."
In response to Reply # 114

>..on inserting it into it? If it was really as simple "A man
>called a woman a bitch", then she couldn't have said, "They
>implied I was a bitch, it was offensive, they should
>apologize." Which, you know, they did.
>
>Instead, she spouts her bullshit about "Well, if it was
>Michelle Obama, MBC would have fired them" and carries on
>about the "bias of Hollywood elite." If she can't talk about
>this without using her own bullshit dogma, then why should
>anyone else?

Listen..I'll say it for the 100th time...You guys are thinking way too hard on this...She's a female Presidential candidate...She was backed by music that has "bitch" in the title...lol...It ends there...

That Bachmann asshole is holding an ace in her hands because it all comes down to what a lot of folks perceive as "sexist" behavior

Where the Roots fucked up at is giving this silly, moronic woman an opening to make this go beyond a political issue....

In other words, all the politics can now be taken out of this and it can be boiled down to one simple issue that ALL WOMEN (a few female democratic women in office are now issuing statements DEFENDING Bachmann) can get behind: don't refer to a woman as a bitch..

It's just not smart.....

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:04 PM

123. "I don't know why they can't see the simple point you're making"
In response to Reply # 122

It's like liberals live in an ideological echo chamber and they just cannot perceive a world outside of their own biases

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mrhood75
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:11 PM

126. "Oh, I see it fine. "
In response to Reply # 123

And I'd take it seriously if Bachmann or anyone was just making it about sexism. Yes, it was unnecessary opening that ?uest gave a moron, but rather than using it to have a serious discussion of sexism, she's using it as a platform to launch her hackneyed discussion of the "media elite" and go after a major news network. And hey, if these Republicans were consistent about their outrage across the board, I might be able to take this seriously. Everyone forgets that the country essentially smiled and looked the other way when Barbara Bush called Hillary Clinton a bitch.

>It's like liberals live in an ideological echo chamber and
>they just cannot perceive a world outside of their own biases

LOL, this is funny, because the statement is true about conservatives. Especially Michelle Bachman.

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:19 PM

131. "I'll admit I threw in the 'liberal echo chamber' thing in there"
In response to Reply # 126

as snarkbait

But the point is that someone like Warren keeps replying to murph talking about how Michelle Bachmann IS a liar and thus, the choice of music was apt and awesome.

(I think you are doing this to an extent too, hood)

What murph is saying (and I agree with him) is that the fact that Bachmann is a liar and a moron is irrelevant. We don't live in a just, liberal cosmos where in the end, the fact that ?uest was "right" is gonna save him.

What we are left with is that a bunch of black men--"rappers" at that--supposedly called a (beautiful) (accomplished) white woman a bitch on national TV and had the nerve to laugh about it in advance*

It don't matter how wrong or evil Bachmann's philosophies are... at the end of the day, what it comes down to is: Are you defending a woman being called a bitch on TV just because some men disagree with her opinions? You can even take the race element out of it and it's still a firebomb issue.

*on a Twitter page that shows one of the black men hobnobbing with Obama. This point is secondary and maybe even tertiary, though.

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:27 PM

136. "RE: I'll admit I threw in the 'liberal echo chamber' thing in there"
In response to Reply # 131

>You can even take the
>race element out of it and it's still a firebomb issue.

This ^^^^is why the whole thing is a cluster fuck...lol

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:57 PM

147. "Okay, here we go."
In response to Reply # 131

>But the point is that someone like Warren keeps replying to
>murph talking about how Michelle Bachmann IS a liar and thus,
>the choice of music was apt and awesome.
>
>(I think you are doing this to an extent too, hood)

I'll say I enjoyed it because they were calling her a liar, rather than they were implying she was a bitch. As mentioned below, there were certainly more **clever** songs they could have used, but there's a certain visceral humor that's comes from using that song (kinda like a song called "Bitch, I'm Broke" is more funny than a song called "I'm Broke).

>What murph is saying (and I agree with him) is that the fact
>that Bachmann is a liar and a moron is irrelevant. We don't
>live in a just, liberal cosmos where in the end, the fact that
>?uest was "right" is gonna save him.
>
>What we are left with is that a bunch of black men--"rappers"
>at that--supposedly called a (beautiful) (accomplished) white
>woman a bitch on national TV and had the nerve to laugh about
>it in advance*
>
>It don't matter how wrong or evil Bachmann's philosophies
>are... at the end of the day, what it comes down to is: Are
>you defending a woman being called a bitch on TV just because
>some men disagree with her opinions? You can even take the
>race element out of it and it's still a firebomb issue.

I guess also at the end of the day, I see calling someone a "liar" is more serious slight than calling someone a "bitch." But I'm not a woman, so I can't speak to how a woman would react. And at the end of the day, she consistently and unapologetically presents falsifications as facts, and that should not get lost or trumped because ?uest implied she was a bitch.

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Wed Nov-23-11 02:01 PM

149. "RE: Okay, here we go."
In response to Reply # 147

>I guess also at the end of the day, I see calling someone a
>"liar" is more serious slight than calling someone a "bitch."
>But I'm not a woman, so I can't speak to how a woman would
>react.

^^^Bingo....

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Wed Nov-23-11 03:04 PM

165. "lol... dude you as clueless as bachman..."
In response to Reply # 131

>as snarkbait
>
>But the point is that someone like Warren keeps replying to
>murph talking about how Michelle Bachmann IS a liar and thus,
>the choice of music was apt and awesome.

I'm saying that if Quest felt that way....I commend him for making his feelings known, albeit indirectly...

it's called having a conviction, and making a statement and accepting the consequences. I admire that even when I don't agree with the sentiments being expressed.

>
>(I think you are doing this to an extent too, hood)
>
>What murph is saying (and I agree with him) is that the fact
>that Bachmann is a liar and a moron is irrelevant. We don't
>live in a just, liberal cosmos where in the end, the fact that
>?uest was "right" is gonna save him.

It's irrelevant to you because you either don't believe she is those things, or if you do, you wouldn't have the conviction to communicate them in the forum that Quest chose to.

the point that you and murph as missing is that what is really irrelevant is whether or not Quest is "saved" or not. Again, when a person acts on conviction without letting the consequences of their act change their conviction, there is a level of courage in that.

>What we are left with is that a bunch of black men--"rappers"
>at that--supposedly called a (beautiful) (accomplished) white
>woman a bitch on national TV and had the nerve to laugh about
>it in advance*

the woman is heinous...... her internal ugliness radiates through to the outside.... so where you get this "beautiful" thing from is looking at this about as shallow as possible..

real beauty comes from the inside..it comes from one's character. that being said she's horrible.

>
>It don't matter how wrong or evil Bachmann's philosophies
>are...

again...they don't matter to you. To others with conviction and courage to speak on it, it does matter.

at the end of the day, what it comes down to is: Are
>you defending a woman being called a bitch on TV just because
>some men disagree with her opinions? You can even take the
>race element out of it and it's still a firebomb issue.
>

uh huh..... What was that you call Lauryn Hill?? or what type of music does Joe make?? Music for whom???

oh yeah...

see player...in the real world what a person says and does matter. When you dealing with real people, you're gonna get your hypocrite card pulled.... and people like Bachmann are gonna have what they say, and portray brought back to them..

it's the cycle of life.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:24 PM

134. "RE: Oh, I see it fine. "
In response to Reply # 126

>And I'd take it seriously if Bachmann or anyone was just
>making it about sexism.

But that's the thing though...WE (as men) don't have a say-so in this...We don't get to shit on this moron (Bachmann) for trying to inject politics in this, because she unfortunately has the moral high ground...

It's a touchy situation...

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mrhood75
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:42 PM

140. "RE: Oh, I see it fine. "
In response to Reply # 134

>But that's the thing though...WE (as men) don't have a say-so
>in this...We don't get to shit on this moron (Bachmann) for
>trying to inject politics in this, because she unfortunately
>has the moral high ground...

If you have the moral high ground, and you use it moronically, then you lose it. If say, after this incident, Bachmann, "They're a bunch of stupid n@##$ers for calling me a bitch," then she'd undoubtedly have forfeited the moral high ground. Now, she didn't do that, but she did use it to advance the old "culture wars" stand-by (the liberal Hollywood elite) and did subtly bring race into it ("If they said that about Michelle Obama, they'd be fired." Yes, that counts as race). So her reaction erodes her moral high ground, but doesn't eliminate it.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:59 PM

"RE: Oh, I see it fine. "

Yes, that counts as race). So her
>reaction erodes her moral high ground, but doesn't eliminate
>it.

There's no eroding, here...Not when other people are backing her who don't even agree with her politics...

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mrhood75
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:15 PM

152. "But there SHOULD be an eroding. That's my point"
In response to Reply # 0

Having a band imply that you're a "bitch" doesn't give you free range to say anything and everything in response and expect that you're still entitled to the moral high-ground.

You saying, "Well, they called her a bitch so she gets the moral high ground." I'm saying that depends on how she continues to react, she doesn't necessarily get to keep, nor should everyone keep ceding it to her.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:52 PM

162. "RE: But there SHOULD be an eroding. That's my point"
In response to Reply # 152

>You saying, "Well, they called her a bitch so she gets the
>moral high ground."

Nah...I'm saying that the implication that the band injected the word "bitch" to describe Bachmann's deceitful actions is tough for most people to back objectively...

That is, when it comes to the general public...

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:15 PM

128. "RE: I don't know why they can't see the simple point you're making"
In response to Reply # 123

>It's like liberals live in an ideological echo chamber and
>they just cannot perceive a world outside of their own biases

But that's the mistake most people are making though...I'll admit that I'm a liberal...I think the Republicans are a reality show onstage...

But there are some things that trump politics when it comes to the public at large....I myself can look at it as the Roots being on some smart "hip-hop" shit, just as Warren and others do....The general public, however, will look at it as a woman being boiled down as a bitch...

I mean, this is Michele Bachmann we are talking about...lol.. This chick is a fucking moron...She's homophobic...She's a dimwitted idiot who has little regard for history...

And yet, she comes out looking like the victim????

This^^^happens when you are perceived to be mysogynistic (sp)...

It is what it is...

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pidgwillot
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:45 PM

141. "RE: Bachmann: Roots Song On Fallon Sexist, Demands NBC Apology (Huffingt..."
In response to Reply # 105

Representative... I served with Michelle Obama. I knew Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama was friend of mine. Representative, you're no Michelle Obama.

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thembi
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:46 PM

143. "this was the bitch who said slavery was good....."
In response to Reply # 105

fuck that cracker bitch....

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spew120
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4026 posts

Wed Nov-23-11 12:34 PM

112. "Ugh, this story isn't dying. I fear for 15's employment status."
In response to Reply # 0

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:51 PM

117. "yeah, I thought it was one and done yesterday"
In response to Reply # 112

but it seems to only be growing, with news agencies playing a grotesque game of Telephone as the state, restate and distort facts. Reading the latest reports on it, you'd think they actually DID literally call her a bitch over and over as she walked on.

Like the running theme now is to reject ?uest's assertion that it was a spontaneous choice because he tweeted it hours before the show... I mean, these people DO realize that the show is not broadcast live, right?

I still can't see ?uest getting fired, though... Hate to say it, but if you sack the Roots, you might as well cancel the whole show. Jimmy knows that too.

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makaveli
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Wed Nov-23-11 12:58 PM

120. "True"
In response to Reply # 117
Wed Nov-23-11 12:59 PM by makaveli

at the end of the day, nbc cares about ratings, and the show's ratings without the roots might not be so good.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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L.E.S.
Member since Oct 18th 2006
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:11 PM

214. "shit I hardly watch the show now and when I do its only for The Roots"
In response to Reply # 120

without them its a wrap

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murph71
Member since Sep 15th 2005
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:06 PM

124. "RE: yeah, I thought it was one and done yesterday"
In response to Reply # 117

>I still can't see ?uest getting fired, though... Hate to say
>it, but if you sack the Roots, you might as well cancel the
>whole show. Jimmy knows that too.

Yep...and this is why it would be wise for Quest to issue a televised apology and go on a week suspension...Hopefully, those two things would shut down all the noise that's being made...Because as it stands right now, a lot of folks in this thread are underestimating just how serious this is...

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mrhood75
Member since Dec 06th 2004
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:18 PM

129. "It's only "serious" because it's a slow news week"
In response to Reply # 124

If this had happened two weeks ago, it's likely no one would have noticed. But it happened Thanksgiving week AFTER ?uest raised his profile as the "hero" of the Occupy Movement. So since news outlets have nothing better to talk about, they're talking about this.

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:22 PM

133. "lol SLOW NEWS WEEK!? Russia wants to nuke us."
In response to Reply # 129

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mrhood75
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44713 posts

Wed Nov-23-11 01:45 PM

142. "Yeah, no one is reporting that"
In response to Reply # 133

Go to the website of any major news outlet. You've got stories about Thanksgiving, stories about hunger (related to the stories about Thanksgiving), stories about the Republican debate last night, stories about the riots in Cairo (which are essentially seen as a retread about the riots in Cairo during the spring). That's translate into a slow news week.

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I. Motion
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Thu Nov-24-11 01:03 AM

196. "RE: lol SLOW NEWS WEEK!? Russia wants to nuke us."
In response to Reply # 133

hahaha

lets not forget the CIA "spies" being caught

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Shelly
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:00 PM

121. "He'll be fine..."
In response to Reply # 112

they just garnered free publicity for at least a week. Now more folks will watch the show.

Shit happens

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I. Motion
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Thu Nov-24-11 01:07 AM

197. "RE: He'll be fine..."
In response to Reply # 121

watch and buy the album

>they just garnered free publicity for at least a week. Now
>more folks will watch the show.
>
>
>Shit happens

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:08 PM

125. "I'm going to out my Sarah Palin song choice right now"
In response to Reply # 0

(My Baby Does) The Hanky Panky by Tommy James & The Shondells

If she's ever on the show go ahead and disable my account until the day after.

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127. "^^^"
In response to Reply # 125

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:19 PM

130. "RE: I'm going to out my Sarah Palin song choice right now"
In response to Reply # 125

>(My Baby Does) The Hanky Panky by Tommy James & The
>Shondells
>
>If she's ever on the show go ahead and disable my account
>until the day after.

LOL!!!!!!

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JG.
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:19 PM

132. "I support this fully, this woman is a beacon of ignorance"
In response to Reply # 0

You fools need to pick a side.

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:26 PM

135. "it's not about picking sides"
In response to Reply # 132

it's about discussing an issue objectively and coming to an intelligent conclusion.

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JG.
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:38 PM

138. "No it is about sides, its about their side and the side of "
In response to Reply # 135

Morality.

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:39 PM

139. "lol"
In response to Reply # 138

I swear I fucking hate people.

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JG.
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:51 PM

145. "How are you going to come to an intelligent conclusion"
In response to Reply # 139

When you sympathize with a hate spewing being like Bachmann, or a truth altering snake like Glenn Beck?

Where was the outrage from the media when Michelle Obama was booed at Nascar?

I searched for Glenn Beck's response to that and what I found was an article about Limbaugh defending the fans and Beck chiming in with a little support as well.

Where is the intelligent conclusion found when you're dealing with clearly one sided people? It's no where to be found, and that is why this ultra neo conservative bullshit needs to be wiped from the slate.

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:16 PM

153. "you don't get it"
In response to Reply # 145

>When you sympathize with a hate spewing being like Bachmann,
>or a truth altering snake like Glenn Beck?
>

Please tell me where I am sympathizing with either of them? my "I fucking hate people" comment includes them as well.

>Where was the outrage from the media when Michelle Obama was
>booed at Nascar?
>

I'm sure there were plenty of people on the left outraged about it.

>I searched for Glenn Beck's response to that and what I found
>was an article about Limbaugh defending the fans and Beck
>chiming in with a little support as well.
>

Why are you searching for Glen Beck or Limbaugh's response to something like that? You already know what it's going to be. This shit isn't hard to figure out.

>Where is the intelligent conclusion found when you're dealing
>with clearly one sided people? It's no where to be found, and
>that is why this ultra neo conservative bullshit needs to be
>wiped from the slate.

both sides are "clearly one-sided people". that's the shit you don't get. if you can flat-out say that is was the right thing to do for The Roots to play that song then you obviously are one-sided�just on the side YOU believe is the right one. No one should be one-sided. This gang mentality is ruining are society. People can't think past what side they're think they should be on.

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Wed Nov-23-11 02:33 PM

158. "It's too tiring playing the ''well-rounded'', thoughtful position all th..."
In response to Reply # 153

>No one should be one-sided. This gang mentality is ruining
>are society. People can't think past what side they're think
>they should be on.

Logically, you, Afkap, and murph are right, but like Austin mentioned above why do we always have to be the one's cruising the high road? What's the point of having nuanced positions when dealing with these people, (Bachman, Beck, Republicans, etc.)?

I'm tired, man.

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:42 PM

159. "well, I don't believe you have to do anything"
In response to Reply # 158

but I think acknowledging and stooping to their level sometimes says more about you than the person you are calling out.

and it's hard to do and NOT be a hypocrite.

people in here are acting as if EVERYone should be fine with what The Roots did.

I mean, you can't predict the backlash from the usual suspects?

All they do is preach to the choir any way so why pay it any mind?

People on the right will be up in arms and people on the left love it.

That's how everything goes so I don't see the big deal.

*shrugs*

yea, she is a lying bitch and yea, it wasn't a good idea for The Roots because they didn't weigh the outcome of their actions and also went against what they stand for. Like I said above, this is the same group that purposely edits out the word from their own albums.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 03:06 PM

166. "RE: It's too tiring playing the ''well-rounded'', thoughtful position al..."
In response to Reply # 158

>>No one should be one-sided. This gang mentality is ruining
>>are society. People can't think past what side they're
>think
>>they should be on.
>
>Logically, you, Afkap, and murph are right, but like Austin
>mentioned above why do we always have to be the one's cruising
>the high road? What's the point of having nuanced positions
>when dealing with these people, (Bachman, Beck, Republicans,
>etc.)?
>
>I'm tired, man.

The problem is you are looking at this as picking sides...

There's nothing logical or illogical about any of this...There are no sides...It's all about commonsense....

We all know what the Beck's of the world are about..Limbaugh? He just called the first lady "uppity"...Those fools are racist blowhards who don't even deserve the time...

But there are some things that go beyond race, politics, class ect...

When an issue can be broken down in simplistic terms, it's tough to look like you are making a hard boiled, I-got-right-on-my-side statement...In a sense, you bury the lede...

It's not smart...If we are judging our actions on the Left against Limbaugh and the like, that's a pretty fucked up measurement...lol

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philpot
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Thu Nov-24-11 11:54 AM

210. "yep"
In response to Reply # 158

fuck that bitch and all this PC bullshit

props to ?uest and them

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Member since Apr 28th 2006
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Wed Nov-23-11 01:53 PM

146. "Someone please make a shirt with her face and the song title"
In response to Reply # 0

and i promise ill buy it

and for the record, i think ?uest should release a statement with examples of exacly why she is a lying ass bitch, instead of appologizing

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Wed Nov-23-11 01:59 PM

148. "you're talking to people who have no concept of her politics"
In response to Reply # 0

she believes in a very racist brand of christianity. she constantly attacks women's reproductive rights.

Often, she will say something outrageous and follow it with a cheerful disclaimer. During the last Presidential campaign, she told Chris Matthews, on MSNBC, that Barack Obama held �anti-American views� and then admitted, �I made a misstatement.� (In 2010, she said that she had been right about Obama�s views all along: �Now I look like Nostradamus.�) In the spring of 2009, during what appeared to be the beginnings of a swine-flu epidemic, Bachmann said, �I find it interesting that it was back in the nineteen-seventies that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat President, Jimmy Carter. And I�m not blaming this on President Obama�I just think it�s an interesting coincidence.�

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:04 PM

150. "RE: you're talking to people who have no concept of her politics"
In response to Reply # 148

Speak for yourself, buddy....

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Wed Nov-23-11 02:53 PM

163. "lol my fault bruh i thought i had responded to ishwip regarding "
In response to Reply # 150

anonymous

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k0la
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:11 PM

151. "maybe a ?uestionable choice, but i have no problem with it."
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Nov-23-11 02:20 PM by k0la

i understand the intersection of race/gender issues this snark raises, but i don't really have a problem with it. it'll get the band and network in trouble, but the the intent of the song wasn't a chauvinistic or racially charged statement. if anything, it was a statement about the individual, who happens to be white and female...and who does happen to tell non-truths to support her political agenda and holds some views that might not put her in the favor of many people in the country. the news media can re-interpret it all they want to manufacture some headlines and bring some underlying social issues to the forefront, but it's all for exploitation and sensationalism. you might get some "intellectual" analysis of the scenario, but ultimately, it's a way to play politics into the scene and cash in on it.

flipping the whole way to look at this situation invokes some pretty provocative ideas as well, but of course the news media, "liberal" or "conservative", won't do that.

it might be bad press, but it can be good publicity among music listeners, too.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:25 PM

155. "RE: maybe a ?uestionable choice, but i have no problem with it."
In response to Reply # 151

>i understand the intersection of race/gender issues this
>snark raises, but i don't really have a problem with it.
>it'll get the band and network in trouble, but the the intent
>of the song wasn't a chauvinistic or racially charged
>statement. if anything, it was a statement about the
>individual, who happens to be white and female...and who does
>happen to tell non-truths to support her political agenda and
>holds some views that might not put her in the favor of many
>people in the country. the news media can re-interpret it all
>they want to manufacture some headlines and bring some
>underlying social issues to the forefront, but it's all for
>exploitation and sensationalism. you might get some
>"intellectual" analysis of the scenario, but ultimately, it's
>a way to play politics into the scene and cash in on it.
>
>flipping the whole way to look at this situation invokes some
>pretty provocative ideas as well, but of course the news
>media, "liberal" or "conservative", won't do that.
>
>it might be bad press, but it can be good publicity among
>music listeners, too.

lol...

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theillestboYee
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:22 PM

154. "?uest said in the AP story that is was a spur-of-the-moment decision."
In response to Reply # 0

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Zion3Lion
Member since Dec 23rd 2002
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Wed Nov-23-11 02:31 PM

156. "she IS a lying ass bitch though"
In response to Reply # 0

I'm glad they played it!

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OldPro
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34401 posts

Wed Nov-23-11 02:51 PM

161. "That really is it"
In response to Reply # 156
Wed Nov-23-11 03:03 PM by OldPro

The right has no problem going in and defending their own. It doesn't even matter when the shit they say is a flat out false... death panels, re-education camps, hpv vaccine causes retardation... she is a lyin ass bitch. And save the sexist argument.. females call each other bitch all the time. And let's not forget this is the same woman that called for an investigation into "unamerican" activities by those in congress. The fact anyone in the mainstream media gives her any credibility at all just shows how broken this shit is. I love the fact we're finally seeing the left grow some balls. Respect to Quest and them.
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Wed Nov-23-11 03:12 PM

168. "RE: That really is it"
In response to Reply # 161
Wed Nov-23-11 03:12 PM by murph71

>And save the sexist argument. females call each other bitch all the time.

Um, bruh, you do know how side-eye worthy this is, right?....lol

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Wed Nov-23-11 03:58 PM

174. "The whole bitch part is just a distraction"
In response to Reply # 168

Why isn't she getting as upset over being called a liar? Because the record shows she is that's why.
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Ishwip
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Wed Nov-23-11 04:33 PM

176. "lol exactly"
In response to Reply # 174

>Why isn't she getting as upset over being called a liar?
>Because the record shows she is that's why.

Reminds me of M. Tyson's "He called me a rapist and a recluse. I�m not a recluse" line.

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 04:54 PM

177. "it doesn't matter what she is getting mad at"
In response to Reply # 174

her anger doesn't dictate my common sense and my view point.

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murph71
Member since Sep 15th 2005
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Wed Nov-23-11 11:51 PM

189. "RE: The whole bitch part is just a distraction"
In response to Reply # 174
Wed Nov-23-11 11:52 PM by murph71

>Why isn't she getting as upset over being called a liar?
>Because the record shows she is that's why.

Because "calling" her a bitch gives Bachmann an out...It allows her to control the conversation...It basically makes a dimwitted, homophobic, crazy-eyed, nonsensical woman look sympathetic in the eyes of other women across all demographics and political leanings...

You can't win on this one....

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Wed Nov-23-11 03:19 PM

169. "After the incident, Bachmann went on national television and lied repeat..."
In response to Reply # 0

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57330074/fact-checking-the-gop-national-security-debate/

BACHMANN: "This is one thing we know about Barack Obama: He has essentially handed over our interrogation of terrorists to the ACLU. He's outsourced it to them. Our CIA has no ability to have any form of interrogation for terrorists."

THE FACTS: The CIA still has the ability to interrogate terrorists. President Obama formed the High Value Interrogation Group, which includes the FBI, the CIA and the Pentagon. It centralizes expertise so that when a terrorism suspect is caught, everyone with a stake in the issue is involved in the questioning. The CIA also can sit in on interrogations in other countries, asking questions directly or through officials of the host government.

Whether the policy on interrogating suspects should be tougher is a matter of authentic debate. But the CIA is hardly emasculated. The agency has dramatically expanded its on-the-ground operations worldwide since 2001, and the U.S. killing of a succession of al Qaeda figures in Pakistan � Osama bin Laden chief among them � demonstrates the potency of the hunt for terrorists. Moreover, the U.S. killing of an American citizen abroad � the radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki � is well outside the range of action that would be condoned by civil liberties advocates.

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BACHMANN: "Almost every decision that the president has made since he came in has been one to put the United States in a position of unilateral disarmament, including the most recent decision he made to cancel the Keystone pipeline. That would have not only created jobs, but it would have helped us in energy independence."

THE FACTS: Obama didn't cancel the Canadian oil pipeline. Instead, his administration delayed the decision in order to explore an alternative route to avoid areas of Nebraska that include wetlands and an aquifer providing water crucial to huge swaths of U.S. cropland. Bachmann also overlooked that the delay came under pressure from Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman, a Republican. When the pipeline was delayed, Heineman hailed the decision and called it "an exceptional moment for Nebraskans."

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/23/politics/truth-squad-iran-israel/index.html

Michele Bachmann said the issue of Israeli aggression came up only because of Iran's possible nuclear capability.

The statement:

"...why is it that we're talking about Israel having to make a strike against Iran? It's because Iran has announced they plan to strike Israel.

"They've stated, as recently as August just before President Ahmadinejad came to -- to the U.N. General Assembly. He said that he wanted to eradicate Israel from the face of the Earth.

"He has said that if he has a nuclear weapon he will use it to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. He will use it against the United States of America."

The facts:

In 2005, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, during a meeting with protesting students at Iran's Interior Ministry, quoted a remark from Ayatollah Khomeini, founder of Iran's Islamic revolution, that Israel "must be wiped out from the map of the world."

Ahmadinejad then said: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," according to a quote published by Iran's state news outlet, the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).

This year, Ahmadinejad spoke to the U.N. General Assembly in September. He criticized Zionism and the United States, but did not threaten a military attack on either country.

Ahmadinejad has maintained Iran seeks only nuclear energy capability, not nuclear weapons. On November 9, he denied once again that his country is pursuing nukes.

"The Americans have fabricated a stack of papers and he keeps speaking about them," he said on state-run Press TV. "Why don't you do a report on the U.S. nuclear program and its allies? Present a report on the thousands of U.S. military bases where Washington has nuclear arms that threaten global security."

The verdict:

False. While Ahmadinejad is no fan of Israel or the United States, he did not state in August that he wants to eradicate Israel. Because he does not acknowledge pursuit of nuclear weapons, he could not have threatened to use them against Israel or the United States.

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murph71
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Wed Nov-23-11 03:21 PM

170. "RE: After the incident, Bachmann went on national television and lied re..."
In response to Reply # 169

Indeed she is a dimwitted liar who has the intelligence of a dish rag....

But........

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Anonymous
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Wed Nov-23-11 03:30 PM

172. "Yo son"
In response to Reply # 170

>
>Indeed she is a dimwitted liar who has the intelligence of a
>dish rag....
>
>
>But........

I got some smart ass dish rags that would like a word with you.

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murph71
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Thu Nov-24-11 10:46 AM

206. "RE: Yo son"
In response to Reply # 172

>>
>>Indeed she is a dimwitted liar who has the intelligence of a
>>dish rag....
>>
>>
>>But........
>
>I got some smart ass dish rags that would like a word with
>you.

Ha!!! Truth.....

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BSharp
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Wed Nov-23-11 04:56 PM

178. "I honestly don't think she's stupid."
In response to Reply # 170

I'll say this much: She looks a hell of a lot smarter and more capable of being President than Herman Cain on the debate stage.

I think she's ignorant, crazy, and I don't agree with her values. I wouldn't call her stupid, though. haha

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denny
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Wed Nov-23-11 09:24 PM

185. "I don't know...."
In response to Reply # 178

seems overwhelmingly stupid to me.

The hilight of the debate for me last night was when Gingrich and her went at it about illegal immigrants.

Newt gets respect from me for his view. Someone who has had a family in the US for 25 years...worked, paid taxes, part of the community....we should find a way for them to stay. Why break up their family?

And his quote while side-eying her was something like:

"After all....We're supposed to be the 'family' party"

Good on Newt.

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L.E.S.
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Wed Nov-23-11 05:38 PM

179. "I'm shocked at the amount of people who have a problem with this"
In response to Reply # 0

I mean. . is it a wise move for The Roots considering their position on NBC?

Maybe. Maybe not. That doesn't concern me.

But the fact of the matter is that there is no song that equals how absolutely
insane, stupid & dangerous this woman is to our country and the world.

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EAS
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Wed Nov-23-11 06:29 PM

180. "I don't think it should've been done"
In response to Reply # 0

I dislike her just like everyone else in this thread. But The Roots should've left their political views out of it. We all saw how the Right went hard on hippie/vegetarian/former hardcore b-boy Common so it would be just seconds before they blow the Roots out of the water on this one. I am happy the Roots have a good and steady gig; wouldn't want to see them mess that up over some b.s.

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Soon
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Wed Nov-23-11 06:40 PM

181. "Had it been to just about anyone else? I would've felt like"
In response to Reply # 0

?uest & co went too far.

But Michele Bachmann is a fucking hateful human being. Quite literally a bad person.

I don't empathize with her or with anyone in her camp, nor with anyone who feels like the move was excessive.

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pistolpete
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Wed Nov-23-11 08:53 PM

183. "ya'll acting like ?uest didn't know what he was doing..."
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Nov-23-11 08:54 PM by pistolpete

since when have we not know him to be calculating and deliberate with every choice. even his casual posts are cryptic and with purpose.

if they leave fallon (whether it's painted as a "firing" or not), i've followed ?uest and them enough to assume that this is how they wanted it.

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ShinobiShaw
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Wed Nov-23-11 09:15 PM

184. "Top 10 Quotes of Michelle Bachmann lying her ass off"
In response to Reply # 0

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicans/a/michele-bachmann-quotes.htm

or the argument can be said she isnt bright either way....

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Wed Nov-23-11 11:09 PM

186. "Does the walk-ons get neutered after this is my question."
In response to Reply # 0

Considering (fandom aside) it's a unique part of the show...I hope this bullshit doesn't get anyone fired or changed.

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Luke Cage
Member since Dec 14th 2005
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Wed Nov-23-11 11:18 PM

187. "I was watching this with Moms"
In response to Reply # 0

and I explained to her what the Fishbone song was and played it for her. She was cracking up and said to me "it's good to see rappers calling someone a bitch for reasons other than not giving up sex". I'm interested to see if Fallon mentions it on tonight's show since it's become so "controversial". Does this mean that Quest has street cred now?

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Warren Coolidge
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:11 AM

192. "the irony of the B word..."
In response to Reply # 187

>and I explained to her what the Fishbone song was and played
>it for her. She was cracking up and said to me "it's good to
>see rappers calling someone a bitch for reasons other than not
>giving up sex". I'm interested to see if Fallon mentions it on
>tonight's show since it's become so "controversial". Does this
>mean that Quest has street cred now?

your moms got it. For everyone who is saying that it's troubling for a rap group to make a reference to a bitch..... the fact that it wasn't used in the manner that is usually associated with rap music adds to the irony and the cleverness of what they did...

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Warren Coolidge
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:08 AM

191. "you know what song they should have done....what's the one song"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu Nov-24-11 12:12 AM by Warren Coolidge

female sings it...

about how she's married to a dude and she finds out the dude is gay...

the chorus is something like "there's another man...in my life"

and she's like talking on one of the verses about findin out her man was gay ..

anyways..... yeah..that would have been a good one for Bachmann

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CinisterCee
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:45 AM

193. "''Another Man'' by Barbara Mason, lol!"
In response to Reply # 191

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e753ln6EdoM

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murph71
Member since Sep 15th 2005
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Thu Nov-24-11 10:43 AM

205. "RE: ''Another Man'' by Barbara Mason, lol!"
In response to Reply # 193

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e753ln6EdoM

This^^^^would have been MUCH better...lol...And a lot smarter as well...

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CinisterCee
Member since Dec 27th 2005
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:52 AM

194. "but should they have sang Biggie's rendition?"
In response to Reply # 191

haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5WP__1uMw#t=0m25s

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dgonsh
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Thu Nov-24-11 01:02 AM

195. "In this case, Fishbone & The Roots will win"
In response to Reply # 0

Bachman gains no traction, but Undun and Fishbone catolog will gain publicity, attention, and subsequently sales.

15 knew what he was doing. He doesnt give a fuck. He wont get fired.

Hooray for Roots media attention! I love when Beck and O'Reilly get upset over this stuff.

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Dr Claw
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Thu Nov-24-11 05:17 AM

198. "man, I finally saw the clip. They didn't even sing the word 'Bitch'"
In response to Reply # 0

so to even get the joke, you had to know what the song was.

which mean this is feigned outrage and a platform for soapbox feminists and the PC patrol to defend the often indefensible. this is some silly ass shit.

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Thu Nov-24-11 08:04 AM

199. "That's what I've been saying."
In response to Reply # 198

But the issue, I guess, is ?uest's tweet.... without that, the whole thing would be a big bowl of nothin'

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GumDrops
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Thu Nov-24-11 09:38 AM

200. "quest didnt have to tell people what he did. but i guess he couldnt"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu Nov-24-11 09:43 AM by GumDrops

help himself. and if he didnt tweet about it, no one would know how clever theyre being lol.

if they picked any other song that had liar in the title apart from one that ended in bitch, it would probably have been ok. i dont think its that bad though, theres no lyrics being sung. but good on the quest and roots for trying to stick it to someone who deserves to be taken down a peg or two. and they did it with inference rather than name calling.

me personally, id have sung a gay rights anthem in ironic fashion lol.

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GumDrops
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Thu Nov-24-11 09:41 AM

201. "btw, i hope this benefits fishbone... still underrated."
In response to Reply # 0
Thu Nov-24-11 09:48 AM by GumDrops

lyin ass bitch is a great song.

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imcvspl
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Thu Nov-24-11 10:04 AM

202. "Anyone not supporting 15 on this is a pawn"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu Nov-24-11 10:21 AM by imcvspl

Nah I don't want them to lose they job, but if they did what away to fucking go out.

THIS IS HIP-HOP MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

WE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YO PROTOCOL AND POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!

Cube told yall motherfuckers

"A BITCH IS A BITCH"

Niggas.... try doing a search for the word "bitch" on OKP. See how many fucking results you get.

Yall happy when the Roots sit back and play the okey doke but when they do some shit, every motherfucker wish they had the platform and opportunity to do, your used to be black power, africa maddalion, nag champa, fight the power ass want to talk about some political corectness.

FUCK DAT

Nigga this shit is like "Bitch in Yoo" on a fucking national level against one of the most offensive politicians we've had in recent times. Fuck anyone not riding with the team on this.

My only hope is that one of these right wing shows gives ?uest more of a forum where he can say "bitch or not I'm glad we can all agree she's a liar."

I'll add on it's perfectly within reason for him to backtrack a bit to keep his job so long as it's not a complete 180. So far even his apology has had underlying snark so he good.
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Buck
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Thu Nov-24-11 10:40 AM

203. "^^^^^goddam right"
In response to Reply # 202

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murph71
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Thu Nov-24-11 10:41 AM

204. "RE: Anyone not supporting 15 on this is a pawn"
In response to Reply # 202

>Nah I don't want them to lose they job, but if they did what
>away to fucking go out.
>
>THIS IS HIP-HOP MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
>
>WE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YO PROTOCOL AND POLITICAL
>CORRECTNESS!!

Yep...I give it up to Cube ALL DAY...Dude didn't give a fuck...told it like it is...Called out the fakes, the Toms, the racist cops and politics...

But what does this have to do with playing checkers instead of chess? Because that's what the Roots unfortunately did...

>Cube told yall motherfuckers
>
>"A BITCH IS A BITCH"
>
>Niggas.... try doing a search for the word "bitch" on OKP.
>See how many fucking results you get.

You got spunk, I'll give you that...lol

>Yall happy when the Roots sit back and play the okey doke but
>when they do some shit, every motherfucker wish they had the
>platform and opportunity to do, your used to be black power,
>africa maddalion, nag champa, fight the power ass want to talk
>about some political corectness.

>
>FUCK DAT

Speak for yourself, homie...

>Nigga this shit is like "Bitch in Yoo" on a fucking national
>level against one of the most offensive politicians we've had
>in recent times. Fuck anyone not riding with the team on
>this.

Who is riding with team Bachmann on this site?...lol

>My only hope is that one of these right wing shows gives ?uest
>more of a forum where he can say "bitch or not I'm glad we can
>all agree she's a liar."
>
>I'll add on it's perfectly within reason for him to backtrack
>a bit to keep his job so long as it's not a complete 180. So
>far even his apology has had underlying snark so he good.

That lying ass homophobic twit is indeed a liar...

But what does that have to do with using commonsense?

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imcvspl
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Thu Nov-24-11 11:30 AM

207. "It was THEIR risk to take and THEY took it"
In response to Reply # 204

All this peanut gallery shit is wack IMHO. Motherfuckers did some real ass shit. Damnit Obama should give mofos the medal of truth or some shit.

Checkers and chess is whatever man. They did that shit. Stand up for the team. Don't decide NOW that bitch is an offensive word. Not now!! Now is the time you pat 15 on the back and say it takes balls dude, we appreciate you cause wasn't nobody else gonna do nothing like that.
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denny
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Thu Nov-24-11 04:19 PM

225. "disagreed"
In response to Reply # 207
Thu Nov-24-11 04:25 PM by denny

I dont kare that the word 'bit`h' was used.

The problem is that it aktuallie takes NO balls to implie that someone is a bit`h while welkoming them with a smile....hugging them..."we're so glad to have u here." Talk about being a bit`h.

The onlie honourable method of kalling someone a bit`h....is to kall them a bit`h. That would have been kareer-suiside in terms of TV...but at least it would be honourable.

Making fun of someone unbeknownst to them is for kowardlie teenaged bullies. ain't no balls about it.

It's also extremelie nerd-like. "Hahaha....she has no klue about this obskure fishbone song from 1986. We made her look so stupid. haha"

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murph71
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Thu Nov-24-11 11:41 PM

229. "RE: It was THEIR risk to take and THEY took it"
In response to Reply # 207

>All this peanut gallery shit is wack IMHO.

Niggas got opinions....that's all...

>Motherfuckers did some real ass shit. Damnit Obama should give mofos the medal of truth or some shit.

lol...

>Checkers and chess is whatever man. They did that shit.
>Stand up for the team. Don't decide NOW that bitch is an
>offensive word. Not now!! Now is the time you pat 15 on the
>back and say it takes balls dude, we appreciate you cause
>wasn't nobody else gonna do nothing like that.

Nah...I'm good...But I do dig the song....

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philpot
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:26 PM

216. ""checkers and chess", "common sense" blah blah blah"
In response to Reply # 204

your jus talkin to talk at this point, pretty sure everyone knows what ur logic is at this point, youve repeated it several times

most ppl jus think ur wrong

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murph71
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Thu Nov-24-11 11:49 PM

230. "RE: "checkers and chess", "common sense" blah blah blah"
In response to Reply # 216

>most ppl jus think ur wrong

Of course they do...we are on a site that's dedicated to the Roots...lol

No shit...

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L.E.S.
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Thu Nov-24-11 11:41 AM

208. "THANKFUL FOR THIS POST"
In response to Reply # 202

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

I am shocked at the amount of people crying foul over this.

If they get fired, they get fired. I don't care. (even though they won't).

You cannot overstate how completely insane it is that a woman like this can
actually potentially become President of the United States. The woman is
ignorant and a dangerous prospect to the entire world. A little snarky song
on Fallon can't change that, but shit, I ain't going to feel bad for that

CRAZY LYIN' ASS BITCH WHO THINKS GOD TALKS TO HER, CLAIMS CAN
CURE HOMOSEXUALITY, CLAIMS HPV VACCINE CAUSES MENTAL RETARDATION,
BASICALLY THINKS THERE IS A CONSPIRACY THAT DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS
UNLEASH SWINE FLEW !!!!!! SAYS CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT ACTUALLY HARMFUL!
WANTS TO GET RID OF MINIMUM WAGE.

I mean it goes on and on. Imagine the wars this BITCH would start.
Imagine the damage this BITCH would cause the earth!
Imagine the crazy laws this BITCH would pass.
You don't want her to get elected because then we'll really find out what a BITCH
she is.

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philpot
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:19 PM

215. "and there you have it!"
In response to Reply # 202

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ninjitsu
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:54 PM

217. "THANK YOU!"
In response to Reply # 202

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southphillyman
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Thu Nov-24-11 02:26 PM

221. "You have 0 perspective"
In response to Reply # 202

no one even knew what the song was first of all
not Bachmann, Fallon, or the audience
You wouldn't have known either if someone didn't tell you
this was not some strong statement
it was a sneaky backdoor diss
that's pretty evident
2ndly the roots work for the white man
happily at that
they abide and adhere to NBC corporate policy every night
and they want to continue to cash those checks
they are already in PR recovery mode which suggests that they didn't really *mean* for this to hit the fan

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imcvspl
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Thu Nov-24-11 02:38 PM

222. "southphillypawn ladies and gentlemen"
In response to Reply # 221

>no one even knew what the song was first of all
>not Bachmann, Fallon, or the audience
>You wouldn't have known either if someone didn't tell you

Nigga I got the vinyl, first pressing. Shut yo bitch ass up.

>this was not some strong statement

Who said it was a strong statement. I compared it to a fucking dis record... so...

>it was a sneaky backdoor diss

Backdoor? You act like they ever have or will have face time with this woman to dis her to her face. This is the closest they'll prolly ever get to her, and it was on nationwide television for all to see. Their job is to play intro music and what did they do? they figured out a way to do their job while at the same time lettng theri feelings about the woman known.

>that's pretty evident
>2ndly the roots work for the white man
>happily at that
>they abide and adhere to NBC corporate policy every night
>and they want to continue to cash those checks

Sho do... ain't nobody denying that.

>they are already in PR recovery mode which suggests that they
>didn't really *mean* for this to hit the fan

No *they* aren't. NBC is. BIG difference. And ?uest has posted on here today... yeah I'm good. Keep pawning dude.

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southphillyman
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Thu Nov-24-11 02:43 PM

223. "Quest met with Bachmann. What do you think happened?"
In response to Reply # 222
Thu Nov-24-11 02:49 PM by southphillyman

but continue being a fanatic

> they figured out a way to do their job while at the same time lettng >theri feelings about the woman known.

known to who?
there was no initial reaction on the set
Quest had to TELL his stans via twitter
it essentially took a snitch for this to go viral
it was meant to be an inside joke
Quest told (in an indirect way btw) his FOLLOWERS on twitter
what they did was not impressive or brave
it was covert and irresponsible

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Stadiq
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Fri Nov-25-11 06:07 PM

233. "you just called someone a "fanatic"???"
In response to Reply # 223

You continue to be more of a joke.

As we speak you are probably in your Lebron jersy interning for Cain.

You have obviously never paid attention to politics in your life.

Please stay in Okaysports...where your ignorance has very little impact on the real world.

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blinded by the lights
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Sat Nov-26-11 12:15 AM

236. "Lol, you really think that wasn't planned from the start?"
In response to Reply # 223

>Quest had to TELL his stans via twitter
>it essentially took a snitch for this to go viral
>it was meant to be an inside joke
>Quest told (in an indirect way btw) his FOLLOWERS on twitter

He knew he was always gonna have to tell his followers. That's why he tweeted before they did it. At the end of the day, it panned out probably about exactly as ?uest expected. It was always gonna go viral despite how 'sneaky' it was, and how he had to make people aware of it.

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DonWonJusuton
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Thu Nov-24-11 02:55 PM

224. "yea, shit was badass... and came from an honest place.. "
In response to Reply # 202

i never knew *alluding* to someone being a bitch was so offensive... ppl keep saying "it's the same thing as calling her a bitch on national television"... no it isn't.. not even a little bit... if someone said, "oh her? well, she's a.. a 'you know what'".. that's not calling someone a bitch.. it's being kinda polite by communicating the sentiment w/o being offensive.. mofos needed to fill in mad blanks/connect mad dots for this to even be an issue... and really, the only ppl who are mad had to have those dots connected FOR them... shit's like 4th degree anger lol..

but yea, honestly, i think anyone who can "get it" enough to not be pissed off at them, personally, needs to admire that ballsy shit.. and i mean, it's always hilarious to make fun of someone to their face w/o them even realizing it... it's a comedy show.. shit's pure comedy lol..

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Stadiq
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Fri Nov-25-11 06:09 PM

234. "^^^sees it. She is a lyin ass bitch. "
In response to Reply # 202

I can't beleive how man so called Roots fans or hip hop fans or...f*ck it people who aren't brainwashed by the right

have had any kind of problem with this.

It was funny

It was accurate

Simple as that.

That bitch is a liar. And evil. And extremely ignorant.

Its done.

Lets keep it moving.

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Thu Nov-24-11 11:44 AM

209. "I'm more shocked someone close to that BITCH knows Fishbone"
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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:04 PM

211. "?uest tweeted it."
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B9
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:08 PM

212. "Not really"
In response to Reply # 211

questlove Questo of The Roots
aight late night walkon song devotees: you love it when we snark: this next one takes the cake. ask around cause i aint tweeting title.

So...I guess I'm amazed: 1) someone close to her knows ?uest enough to check his tweets and 2) knows the phrase "snark". I hope like hell "they" don't take that from us.

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AFKAP_of_Darkness
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Thu Nov-24-11 02:01 PM

220. "Yeah, really."
In response to Reply # 212

http://twitter.com/#!/questlove/status/138862834938417153

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imcvspl
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Thu Nov-24-11 12:08 PM

213. "FIXED: ?uest tweeted there was snark in it"
In response to Reply # 211

Never actually tweeted the song. I'm actually surprised he didn't delete that cause he had plenty of time to before the media caught on. And I am convinced that one of these pawns actually *did* get it to the media outlets, having watched ALL of the threads in GD and here. It took way too long for them if they had got it on their own.
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Thu Nov-24-11 01:16 PM

218. "Apparently there's an OKP that interns for the Huff post"
In response to Reply # 213

From what I understand they were the first to report what song it was. So it's the belief that that OKP read the FIRST GD post and reported it.

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AGP01
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Thu Nov-24-11 06:41 PM

226. "RE: anyone catch The Roots playing "Lyin Ass Bitch" by Fishbone for Mich..."
In response to Reply # 0

I'm from the UK and have no idea who that Glenn Beck is, but from watching that video of his rant...I know this much...he's a fucking prick.

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Thu Nov-24-11 07:59 PM

227. "http://tinypic.com/r/2vnkksj/5"
In response to Reply # 0

http://tinypic.com/r/2vnkksj/5

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roberto
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Thu Nov-24-11 11:29 PM

228. "Severely reprimanded"
In response to Reply # 0

The Roots were severely reprimanded according to reports. So, what does that entail?

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Invisiblist
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Fri Nov-25-11 08:32 PM

235. "I dunno, but"
In response to Reply # 228

if she does come back on, The Roots should just not be the band.

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Asoyini
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Fri Nov-25-11 10:11 AM

231. "It's not a big deal and here's why"
In response to Reply # 0
Fri Nov-25-11 10:15 AM by Asoyini

I'm not sure why people are acting like this is a big deal. No it wasn't some great political act of courage. Really? lol It was a snarky "inside" joke that should have stayed "inside". What would have been courageous was to tell Michelle Bachman to her face why you think she is a "lying ass bitch", either on camera or off, backed by a well thought out and clear political perspective. The Roots were never going to do that though. Why? They don't get paid for that. They get paid to provide music for a major corporation that has a nightly national tv show where very strict policies get enforced and where there are penalties for "not following orders". I know because I used to work for NBC. They will get reprimanded (but most likely not fired) and will continue to be the "house" band. End of story.

sidenote...I would try to parlay this into as much pub as possible for the new album but that's kinda hard to do being that they are "muzzled" right now.

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Fri Nov-25-11 11:00 AM

232. "#team?uesto. (although not #teamfuckingupyourmoney or "
In response to Reply # 0

#teamannouncingyoursnark).

i'm trying to listen to people's pov's on here and all that but i can't stand listening to this lying ass bitch. there's no more apt description.

sorry.

and foh, all these folks acting brand new about the language. this is a hip hop site. if y'all had prollems with the word 'bitch', y'all would have been out a long ass time ago.

now, in the interest of purity of political statements, yeah, a cover of 'lying ass woman' or 'lying ass politician' would have been equally apropos, albeit less visceral.

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HighVoltage
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Sat Nov-26-11 01:29 AM

237. "seems like everyone here is missing the point"
In response to Reply # 0

this isn't about whether you agree with their stance on Bachmann. They are employees who represent NBC and LNJF when they are performing on the show and you can't flat out disrespect your guests. whether its subtle or not- because people will know it and word will spread regardless (which is exactly what happened). I'm all for playful snark, but this was just mean.

sure those who share their sentiments will applaud them for the ballsy move, but this was not smart and not a good look for them. it jeopardizes a good situation and you know damn well NBC is gonna keep a closer eye on them and I would assume they need to run ALL music choices by them in advance now.

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Sat Nov-26-11 02:51 AM

238. "RE: Nope, you missed the point."
In response to Reply # 237

emmbee appears on late night talk show and expects the Sunday morning treatment?

'Another thing coming' seems like an understatement.

Honestly, I don't think she expected flat out malice, but she couldn't have expected a positive reception at such a venue.

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Sat Nov-26-11 09:50 AM

239. "you're further proving my point that everyone here is clueless"
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Asoyini
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Sat Nov-26-11 10:09 AM

240. "thankfully not everyone"
In response to Reply # 237

I'm in agreement with you though...

>this isn't about whether you agree with their stance on
>Bachmann. They are employees who represent NBC and LNJF when
>they are performing on the show and you can't flat out
>disrespect your guests. whether its subtle or not- because
>people will know it and word will spread regardless (which is
>exactly what happened). I'm all for playful snark, but this
>was just mean.
>
>sure those who share their sentiments will applaud them for
>the ballsy move, but this was not smart and not a good look
>for them. it jeopardizes a good situation and you know damn
>well NBC is gonna keep a closer eye on them and I would assume
>they need to run ALL music choices by them in advance now.

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imcvspl
Member since Mar 07th 2005
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Sat Nov-26-11 10:29 AM

241. "Can this post get anymore depressing?"
In response to Reply # 0

Yall mofos analyzing ?uest's job. Yall some Bachmanns fa real. I can't believe I'm reading some of this shit. OKP's worried about protecting NBC's image? The fuck is this bizarro world. I feel bad ?uest has to read this shit on his own fucking site. I'd be tempted to shut this whole shit down after reading this shit. Like what? These niggas trying to check me, about my job, on my site. FOH!! And for all your insight in how these things work none of yall know SHIT about the situation. Like fa real yall don't know shit. You speculating motherfuckers don't know a damn thing. All this it wasn't shit cause he ain't say it to her face shit. Nigga.... YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP. Know why, cause YOU wouldn't say that shit to 15's face!!!
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