Post disco era of course.... I mean i know Luther was gay but they did a fairly good job of keeping that on the DL. But man it was tripping me out the other day when I was going over some old tapes with videos on them and came across "The Word is Out". I mean not only is the song about a his "secret" getting out but dude was making no effort to hide his flamboyance.

For those that don't remember the video
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Then dude followed up with what might be the most fabulous video of the decade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID_N7rv-iN8

I mean good for him and all but seriously how was he able to fight off the post disco homophobia and score hits looking and sounding like this?

It's kinda wild how the music industry was able to pull off some don't ask don't tell shit back then.
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because the first one that came to mind was Sylvester.

was he "out" and allat? because you know... what era it was.
dudes were weird then. at least those in showbusiness.

But that shit went right out the door as Reagan brought morning to America.

You had the whole androgynous thing going on but most of those dudes (in black music any way) were clearly after pussy. Jermaine is the only dude I can think of since that time that left no doubt about his sexuality. Even back then we knew the females were merely props to keep middle America from going ape shit.
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only now am I catching some of these subtexts, damn.

'cause i was gonna say "LITTLE RICHARD"!!!

lil' richard was gay, right?

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in my high school it was anal chili

one of the first CDs i got. (it was all about my cassettes back then).

and did he do "who's johnny"? from "short circuit"?

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We would get to play the radio in art class on fridays and of course stations were picked along racial lines. One day when we had it on the R&B station "Rock With You" came on and this white girl ask "Who's the girl that sings that song" lol
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>We would get to play the radio in art class on fridays and of
>course stations were picked along racial lines. One day when
>we had it on the R&B station "Rock With You" came on and this
>white girl ask "Who's the girl that sings that song" lol
>
lmao, damn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntJ8pXo6k40

I can find a bunch of cats from that area that existed in that gray area. But they are sweet and low to Jermaine's pure cane sugar.
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i actually came in here to post that video. the video is absolutely class, and highly camp. but point taken, it is quite ambiguous, and the jermaine songs are pretty unequivocal in hindsight. haven't heard either of those songs since the eighties, they took me back ha ha ha.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROUywPWdhrY

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well that was slightly disturbing...

....definitely. Plus, they were in the U.K., where i think alot of people never really cared as much.

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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

....due to damn near every other male singer at the time throwin' on mascara and foundation, lol. I mean, yeah, those other cats did make it obvious they were after some trim, as you stated. I guess since Jermaine's look wasn't too far fetched because of those other cats competing with him on who could look the most effeminate, he was good. People were willing to overlook the innuendos due to the look of that era, is my guess.




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>....due to damn near every other male singer at the time
>throwin' on mascara and foundation, lol. I mean, yeah, those
>other cats did make it obvious they were after some trim, as
>you stated. I guess since Jermaine's look wasn't too far
>fetched because of those other cats competing with him on who
>could look the most effeminate, he was good. People were
>willing to overlook the innuendos due to the look of that era,
>is my guess.

dude was hiding in plain sight so to speak. thinking back it seems like we were sure he was gay... but maybe since it wasn't confirmed everyone just let it go.

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...back in the day that dude was homosexual, but still, he for the most part wouldn't have been too out of place with all of the androgyny stylings that were going on at the time.





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I mean, "Supermodel" wasn't exactly a hit but he was certainly more overtly gay.

JS was getting play in straight black clubs at the time.
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he was making Club cuts, and using the hot producers at the time ( Eric Kupper and a few other cats). Nothing inherently Gay about that.


in fact, "Supernatural" from that album is MEAN...


People slept on it. He did himself in with all the pageantry and nonsense, but MUSICALLY, that album wasn't too bad.

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>he was making Club cuts, and using the hot producers at the
>time ( Eric Kupper and a few other cats). Nothing inherently
>Gay about that.
>
>
>in fact, "Supernatural" from that album is MEAN...
>
>
>People slept on it. He did himself in with all the pageantry
>and nonsense, but MUSICALLY, that album wasn't too bad.

......played it in awhile(i actually might try to find it, so i can "A Shade Shadey"). House of loooooooooooooooooove !!!!!! Yes, must look for that...........
Thanks for mentioning that album.

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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

being the cradle of house and all you guys seem a lot more open to shit like this in some of your clubs... I can tell you with 100% certainty that no straight black club out here played any Rupaul music. The only place I ever saw that video or heard the track was in this gay friendly club my wife liked to go to back then.

Back in the day The Word is Out was getting thrown into the mix at underground hip hop clubs.
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when you say 'post disco' do you mean artists that came along after disco was dead, or do you mean niggas that was making songs then but still made them afterwards in another style?

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I meant exactly what I said.... nobody else seemed to have trouble figuring it out.

yeah I'm being a dick... blame it on the "homo" influence if you want
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What the blood claaat ???

How he tells the girl he's not a piece of meat in We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

>How he tells the girl he's not a piece of meat in We Don't
>Have To Take Our Clothes Off.

she was his beard and he was trying to shut her down before she tried any shenanigans lol
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>she was his beard and he was trying to shut her down before
>she tried any shenanigans lol
>
good point, had to let her know a 'quick hit' wasn't his game in that scenario.

I'm not a drinker or anything it just sounded like it would taste good lol

anyone ever had a cherry wine?
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ha ha i've had this shit:

http://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/images/large/CLEN649.jpg

dunno if i'd really call it wine, if it never said so on the bottle though. think it's aimed at the older market in the uk.

just went over to org and saw this

http://prince.org/msg/8/354381

Is it dude's birthday month or something? His aura is in the air or something lol
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but i know you said post Disco era.

I would even say that title goes to Prince more than "We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off" - despite him dying of AIDS, if memory serves correct, and clearly being a gay man - he didn't give up too much to the public in that sense. I bring up the AIDS issue not cause he was a gay man, but because it was the 80's and from what I understand the climate towards the gay population was openly violatile - Rock Hudson's situation comes to mind. In any event, people can position it how they'd like with Prince - but his first set of videos all the way through his third album were in panties (not mens anything... panties) womens tops, lip gloss, flowing Farah Fawcette hair and he couldn't keep his clothes on amongst his bassist and guitarist he kept - touching, fondling, and falling against. True the last three items was consistent with most rock bands from that time.

Not quite like Little Richard did (aka the original Rkelly)
and how Sylvester did it.. which was so overt many people thought he was a woman cause he dressed in drag.

I'm sure I'm covering stuff that's already been covered but I'll leave it there.

Oh and for the record I'm a huge Prince fan.

Honestly to some extent the same can be said of Michael Jackson if you look at the infamous 20/20 interview. That was what? 79. 80?

Whatever the case, Little Richard owns this post.

Then of course there was Giorgio.

>I would even say that title goes to Prince more than "We Don't
>Have To Take Our Clothes Off" - despite him dying of AIDS, if
>memory serves correct, and clearly being a gay man - he didn't
>give up too much to the public in that sense. I bring up the
>AIDS issue not cause he was a gay man, but because it was the
>80's and from what I understand the climate towards the gay
>population was openly violatile - Rock Hudson's situation
>comes to mind. In any event, people can position it how they'd
>like with Prince - but his first set of videos all the way
>through his third album were in panties (not mens anything...
>panties) womens tops, lip gloss, flowing Farah Fawcette hair
>and he couldn't keep his clothes on amongst his bassist and
>guitarist he kept - touching, fondling, and falling against.
>True the last three items was consistent with most rock bands
>from that time.


Also brings to mind Freddie Mercury. From what I know...he never officially came out and he also never told anyone he had AIDS. Apparently, even alot of his close friends didn't know he had AIDS until days before he died. It's kinda tragic.

And that huge tribute concert they did for him is really touching to this day. You got metal guys like Metallica and GNR all co-signing F Mercury. It was like a way of everybody saying that they accepted him for who he was. Still moves me to this day.

Instead of making a new post I'll just add this here.

You had me searching around the internet and I found this:

http://www.topgaysongs.com/musicians/top-gay-musicians

A couple surprises to me here:

Leonard Bernstien
Roddy Bottum (keyboards for Faith no More...his stage name makes sense now)
Gary Burton (Yes....the vibraphone player)
John Cage (didn't know that)
Frankie Knuckles (makes sense....didn't know that)
Brian Mcknight (is that true? Didn't know that)
Cole Porter (Honestly didn't know that)
Billy Strayhorn
Cecil Taylor

Also read in other places:

Tracy Chapman
Bessie Smith

I know Claude was on them hoes heavily a few years ago LOL

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Jokes.

Whatever....he's a little effeminate. Contrary to politically correct discourse....most effeminate males are gay.

But I'm gossiping here. A strange moral dilemma. On the one hand....people should have privacy and individuals are not responsible for being the spokespersons of a group. On the other hand, gay people can be empowered by popular celebrities coming out to tell the truth. Tough line to walk.

Personally, I could care less if a pop star/artist was gay. But it's also cool to acknowledge how many gay people made significant contributions to the arts in the face of their oppression.

C'mon dog �taygravy


>Gary Burton (Yes....the vibraphone player)

WORD?


>Billy Strayhorn
>Cecil Taylor

I think I knew about these...


>Also read in other places:
>
>Tracy Chapman

This is a shock?


>Bessie Smith

Never knew that...


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Apparently, Gary Burton came out publically in 1985. It's on his wiki page. Kudos to him for 1985.

Tracy and Bessie don't surprise me....but I didn't know about that.

>Apparently, Gary Burton came out publically in 1985. It's on
>his wiki page. Kudos to him for 1985.

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I just learned Frankie Knuckles was. I have seen him DJ online, and of course he's just standing there DJ'n, so I can't say "he does do some gay ass scratches" or "you should see the way he strokes his crossfader like it's a testicle" or some shit.

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I already made that joke.

.........Take 6 is. I can't think of his name, somebody help me out.


>>Leonard Bernstien
>Roddy Bottum (keyboards for Faith no More...his stage name
>makes sense now)
>Gary Burton (Yes....the vibraphone player)
>John Cage (didn't know that)
>Frankie Knuckles (makes sense....didn't know that)
>Brian Mcknight (is that true? Didn't know that)
>Cole Porter (Honestly didn't know that)
>Billy Strayhorn
>Cecil Taylor
>
>Also read in other places:
>
>Tracy Chapman
>Bessie Smith


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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

>.........Take 6 is. I can't think of his name, somebody help me out.

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I don't think it was a secret amongst the musicians though...

Not sure he himself has ever admitted it...

matter of fact wanda is the ONLY black celeb to say "yes im gay"

everyone else is assumed.

not ru, luther. lah. anyone. including jermaine.

little richard spoke of it in past tense like its over.

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

Does Tevin Campbell still deny it?

Rahsaan Patterson made some noise and I thought he was confirmed.

Donnie is out too but doesn't want people to talk about it all the time, lol.

He says he's just "freaky"

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spit OJ out laughin

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
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He must have forgotten about the time he was caught by the police for having weed on his person and soliciting a male prostitute.





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>He says he's just "freaky"

......rolling. I was like, nuggah pleeze.

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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

>He says he's just "freaky"


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...a few years back. It's not like it was a surprise to anyone who knew of him. LOL. I heard him and Tevin used to be a couple. Not sure if that's true or not though.

>Does Tevin Campbell still deny it?
>
>Rahsaan Patterson made some noise and I thought he was
>confirmed.
>
>Donnie is out too but doesn't want people to talk about it all
>the time, lol.


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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

what about queen latifah? didn't she come out?

Her photos have been taken. She talks about her partner.

She won't make the Big Coming Out Announcement but it is not like she is hiding anything. I think she treats it as no big deal.

Sometimes I think black folks in particular are okay with people being bi or gay as long as they don't make a public acknowledgement of it.

I thought she admitted to being bi or gay early in her career?

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Donnie, Rahsaan Patterson, Me'shell, Queen Pen and a bunch more I can't remember off the top of my head have all publicly declared their homo (or bi)sexuality.

Meshell is the only one that people have named who's really had any
notable success in the industry. Hell the artists yall naming is kinda
proving the point that it's not wise to come out as a black artist.

Most artists don't ever get the chance to have their projects released on an (inter)national level with millions of dollars of major label support. If you're talking about sales and media visibility, those artists had that too. They weren't the toast of the industry but they were successful enough for it to mean something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqLYIAW2ZoM

I guess he hardly counts as a "celeb" per se, but...

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