This topic stems from a previous discussion in another thread, where I started thinking how many producer put out instrumental albums and how it has kind of become a new genre in itself.

what are some of your favorites?

which ones may I need to check out?

who took the crown for the best album of this kind?

and I'm counting albums like Deadringer and Petestrumentals that may have had a couple tracks with MCs but were mainly instrumentals.

Im sure people will start of with the Dillas and Madlibs, but there are much more in the canon of instrumental. Flying Lotus, Nicolay, 14KT, and others have brought quality stuff.

signature pose.

Look up Suff Daddy's Hi-Hat Club Vol. 2 or Flako's First Space Shit On The Moon, amazing stuff.

(this is by year, as this is how my albums are sorted on my hard drive)

2001:

RJD2's "Deadringer" - my favorite personal instrumental hip-hop record. Combines the drum breakery of dj shadow's legendary debut with a folk element; samples singing vocals on some of the songs which blows my mind

the avalanches's "Since I left you" - if i remember correctly, a group of dj's put this together? it sounds like it, as it's basically a seamless clusterfuck combination of sounds culled from everyfuckinwhere. best listened to as an album

2002's releases escape me at the moment.

2003:

RJD2's "the horror" - remixes of some of the songs from "deadringer", which again blows my mind, b/c if the originals weren't dense and layered in the first place, he takes some stuff out and adds more elements to almost make different songs outta dem.

2004:

blueprint's "chamber music" - another of my favorites. very eclectic, sometimes dark, sometimes jazzy. also features some songs w/ vocals

blockhead's "music by cavelight" - the true dj shadow's "entroducing" worship instrumental album, but not in a bad way. very cinematic, drum heavy, layered record.

2005:

pete rock's "the surviving elements" - leftovers from pete rock's "soul survivor 2" sessions that were never meant to see the light of day, apparently? sure glad they did, as this is vintage p.r. worthy successor to "petestrumentals" if u ask me.

2006:

flying lotus's "1983" - very groovy and mellow set from this guy who is now almost god-like in the underground. off-beat, sloppy drums - but not sloppy in a bad way, like i hear these days - and synths

dimlite "this is embracing" - this record IS CRAZY. i was put onto this by okp, and honestly i can't describe it all that well. electronicky, off-beat (but in a diff. way than fly-lo) and dense as hell.

+ i'm sure you've heard of j dilla's "donuts".

from 2006 on is when the scene started getting FLOODED. i'll be back later, as too many of these dropped for me to remember.

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it had been on my ipod a while, i think i d/led it cuz you had said something about it on here

it was awesome, i especially liked track 2 with the female vocalist

i gotta listen more

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i'd encourage u to go back in his discography, if u like that

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>(this is by year, as this is how my albums are sorted on my
>hard drive)
>
>2001:
>
>RJD2's "Deadringer" - my favorite personal instrumental
>hip-hop record. Combines the drum breakery of dj shadow's
>legendary debut with a folk element; samples singing vocals on
>some of the songs which blows my mind
>
>the avalanches's "Since I left you" - if i remember correctly,
>a group of dj's put this together? it sounds like it, as it's
>basically a seamless clusterfuck combination of sounds culled
>from everyfuckinwhere. best listened to as an album
>
>2002's releases escape me at the moment.
>
>2003:
>
>RJD2's "the horror" - remixes of some of the songs from
>"deadringer", which again blows my mind, b/c if the originals
>weren't dense and layered in the first place, he takes some
>stuff out and adds more elements to almost make different
>songs outta dem.
>
>2004:
>
>blueprint's "chamber music" - another of my favorites. very
>eclectic, sometimes dark, sometimes jazzy. also features some
>songs w/ vocals
>
>blockhead's "music by cavelight" - the true dj shadow's
>"entroducing" worship instrumental album, but not in a bad
>way. very cinematic, drum heavy, layered record.
>
>2005:
>
>pete rock's "the surviving elements" - leftovers from pete
>rock's "soul survivor 2" sessions that were never meant to see
>the light of day, apparently? sure glad they did, as this is
>vintage p.r. worthy successor to "petestrumentals" if u ask
>me.
>
>2006:
>
>flying lotus's "1983" - very groovy and mellow set from this
>guy who is now almost god-like in the underground. off-beat,
>sloppy drums - but not sloppy in a bad way, like i hear these
>days - and synths
>
>dimlite "this is embracing" - this record IS CRAZY. i was put
>onto this by okp, and honestly i can't describe it all that
>well. electronicky, off-beat (but in a diff. way than fly-lo)
>and dense as hell.
>
>+ i'm sure you've heard of j dilla's "donuts".
>
>from 2006 on is when the scene started getting FLOODED. i'll
>be back later, as too many of these dropped for me to
>remember.


i remember reading that 'the surviving elements' was not only unauthorized, but also unfinished (supposedly). that made me never want to hear it. my loss, i'm sure, but life goes on.

my personal favorites were the aforementioned 'the private press' but especially 'donuts' and prefuse 73's 'one word extinguisher.' later than that, i'm not sure what's electronic and what's instrumental hip-hop, but this topic's been done to def.

prefuse 73 dropped 2 VERY dope projects in 2003. completely slipped my mine. "one word extinguisher" is hella good.

and i never liked "the private press". i'm sure there's at least 3 songs that i like by themselves, tho.

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>prefuse 73 dropped 2 VERY dope projects in 2003.

agreed, and 'uprock' was dope as well; after 2003, he got less consistently great.


>and i never liked "the private press". i'm sure there's at
>least 3 songs that i like by themselves, tho.

when's the last time you listened? i think the fact that it was the official followup years later to 'endtroducing...' made people criticize TPP a lot harsher than they would have otherwise. i think if any of his followers had put it out as their debut then it would've been heralded as groundbreaking; instead, they received kudos for remaking his debut. TPP is not an amazing album or anything (it didn't make my top 50 of the last decade, and i prefer 'psyence fiction' as an album), but i always enjoyed it.

...(in the past year), as a song from the album came on pandora radio and i was like "whoa! this sound like something from "the entroducing"!" went and found the album...no bueno

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oh well. hey, i still haven't even listened to 'the outsider,' and i've owned it since the day/week it came out. the whole world scared me off of it. that guy just can't win past the '90s no matter what he does.

i think i'm definitely in the minority in thinking that "the private press" was up there with "endtroducing". i liked the playfullness (monosylibic, mashing on the motorway) mixed the seriousness (6 days). it really had a lot of personality.

and it made for great mpc beatmaker study material.

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>blockhead's "music by cavelight" - the true dj shadow's
>"entroducing" worship instrumental album, but not in a bad
>way. very cinematic, drum heavy, layered record.

yet i am wholly unable (despite several attempts) to really care about "endtroducing"...no dis to shadow, but it's just never done it for me

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my fave track on the record- You and I Both

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shame this album didn't get noticed much, got release around the time RJD2 dropped his debut..

Kan Kick "The Traditional Heritage", "Beautiful: Opus of Love Deeper Than Flesh", "Seeing Spirits"
Ta'raach "EL-O-VEE: A Sound Collage"
Dr. Who Dat? "Beat Journey"
Budamunky "Mokstrumentals Volume 1"
Mabuana "Done Already"

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i have 3— and i was missing 2 of those!

Spencer Doran "Puzzles"
Ras G "I Of The Cosmos"
Sixtoo "Duration"
Ricci Rucker "Fuga"
Dabrye "Two/Three - Instrumentals"

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are all of these official releases?

can I actually purchase these?

right now, for best I've heard of the 00's are (in no order)

Donuts
One Word Extinguisher
Los Angeles
Deadringer

I'm looking for official releases on par with these.

if you had to narrow down a top 10 list or something, what would make that cut.

because I see a LOT of albums on here, which I'm sure are dope, but I want the best of the best.

thanks for the replies so far.

i want to slap you for not having any beat konducta albums

and this is a tongue in cheek comment since those things get lost in e-translation sometimes

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I do too.

and every time I look at the Madlib section, there's just too much shit to conquer so I don't buy any of it.

I don't know where to start.

I really wanted to check out that Shades of Blue album though.

and I know Madlib is probably the other dude that needs to be in that preliminary top 5 that I posted.

I'm interested in that Blockhead album a lot too.

>I really wanted to check out that Shades of Blue album
>though.

>I'm interested in that Blockhead album a lot too.


and if you need a recommendation on Beat Konducta, get 5/6, the Dilla tributes, you can not possibly be dissapointed

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i really like the first yesterday's new quintet album "angles without edges" too.

beat konductah 1/2, 5/6, and the above are my favorite madlib inst albums.

i remember feeling kinda "eh" about the blue note album. but i gotta check that out again.

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>i remember feeling kinda "eh" about the blue note album. but
>i gotta check that out again.

i love this album, but i don't see how madlib's jazz work is even part of this conversation. jazz is jazz, even if the musician also makes hip-hop and other stuff. honestly, i don't see why the instrumental versions of his or anyone else's albums count either.

>are all of these official releases?
>
>can I actually purchase these?
>
from everything I named only the ras g isn't a real album, it was released on cd-r if Im not mistaking

spencer doran, mabuana are probably hard to find, fuga also I think
but all of those are high quality, some future classics

didn't cite any Madlib as I assumed you know what he released in the decade
if you don't, get the instrumental versions of every album he produced if available, from the top of my head: the 2 Quasimoto, and dudley perkins's expressions 2012 a.u. are must have, also beat konducta 0-6



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album" (in the most pretentious sense you can think of) ANYDAY

now, of course, a "bunch of beats" may very well be a cohesive and supreme "instrumental album" (donuts, beat konducta, etc.)...and something that is conceived of as an "instrumental" album and not "just" beats, i may love...


but when i see some pretentious a-hole bragging about how their shit is "not *just* a beat tape but a true *instrumental album*", i get irked

not that my taste/opinion means shit, but damn...what's wrong w/ some beats?

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the beauty of these albums for me is that they have emotion.

they have highs and lows.

they have different feelings throughout.

Donuts is dope because it just keeps hitting you with new dope shit, then slows it down, then drops a bomb, then a vocal sample, then let's a loop play, then it cuts it up again, flips to another tune and so forth. (can't wait to go back and read that freestyle description.)

just "some beats" to me is boring as fuck. as someone that writes, if "just a beat" comes on and it's not one I like enough to write to, I don't want to listen to that shit.

these instrumental albums like Flying Lotus, that actually have a pacing and a concept are dope as hell to me because they're just more creative.

i'll listen to some jazz...seriously

stuff like flylo just can't keep my attention

but i'll rock something like Special Herbs all day long

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>these instrumental albums like Flying Lotus, that actually
>have a pacing and a concept are dope as hell to me because
>they're just more creative.

agreed... i've been listening to these kinds of instrumental albums for 13-14 years, so it's hard for me to get excited about "beat tapes" or the instrumental versions of songs or albums that were produced for rapping even if i love the beats

i rarely see anyone say "its more than *just* beats"

some people like myself like listening to instrumental pieces that evolve and are dense and change alot, and get bored of listening to a more minimalist loop

i'd rather listen to an "instrumental album" because its more interesting to me and i feel it more, not because I want to feel smarter or more artistic, thats just my taste, beats are cool too and i listen to them sometimes

don't see why you need to go out of your way to shit on instrumental albums when no one in this thread said anything pretentious or negative about beat tapes and rap instrumentals

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do you see what i'm getting at?

if you really think my post was "shitting on" instrumental albums maybe YOU are the one who is defensive and insecure, no?


>and something that is conceived of as an
>"instrumental" album and not "just" beats, **i may love**...
>
>
>but when i see some pretentious a-hole bragging about how
>their shit is "not *just* a beat tape but a true *instrumental
>album*", i get ***irked***
>
>****not that my taste/opinion means shit****, but damn...what's wrong
>w/ some beats?

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nm

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this is why i try to stay away from here recently...this type of negativity

i admit, that comment could be taken as a backhand to whomever it could be taken as a backhand to...but it was a comment specifically aimed at no one, but based on actual press-releases i've seen for "instrumental albums"

between you and me, YOU are the one who made this some personal attack shit cause you didn't like what i was saying...

i'll try to remember as i have been all week that simply posting your opinion on okp WILL get you personally attacked on some bullshit...

peace

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i don't attack people and keep negativity to a minimum

besides hating people you view as pretentious, your og post ended in "damn, whats wrong with some beats?" in a post about "instrumental hip hop" albums, as if to say "instrumental hip hop" beyond beats doesn't even need to exist, and you don't understand why anyone would want to listen to anything beyond beats

i happen to love "instrumental hip hop" so it was my impulse to respond

saying you were being defensive and insecure wasnt meant as an attack, thats just what i felt your original post was, i'm sorry if you felt it was an attack

thats about it

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and though it wasn't an official instrumentals album, "The Unseen" instrumentals needs at least an honorable mention in here.

it was mentioned by the op

and true about unseen...further adventures instros are a good listen too, but more straightforward imo

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I don't know how it started but at first I was getting what they use to call hip-hop breakbeat albums that was mainly pressed on vinyl (this was before those party-break AV8 records got popular) but the 45King records on Tuff City, the Dj Krush's records, Wayne Rollins, those Nervous/Wreck/Strapped records produced by various producers & DJs (which was the beginning of a lot of party-break songs), Kenny Dope, Armand Van Helden, Kevin Gordon, Dj Cam, there was some real gems on the New Breed label which put out what people use to call acid-jazz type stuff (Dj Smash was head of the label and did music under various aliases as well), then Hydra Records started releasing their series which had beats from Beatnuts, Godfather Don, Vic, A Kid Called Roots, etc.

Then came the instrumental albums from certain artists like A Tribe Called Quest, Pete Rock & C.L.Smooth, Goodie Mob, Outkast, Sadat X., Diamond D., Alkaholiks, Raekwon, Dr.Dre, The Arsonists, & so on.

Then BEE Records came along and let Pete Rock put out his instrumental album, that was kind of the beginning where many unknown producers were starting to put out beat cds that would leak in the hands of people who had access to find these gems online, and etc.

As far as stuff that got released in 2000 to now, I got tons of instrumental albums that I've bought & downloaded, but it's only been a few that I've been going back to though, such as:

Marco Polo "Canned Goods"
Pete Rock "Petestrumentals" (both versions)"
F.S. Green "The State Beat CD"
Flying Louts "Raw Cartoons" & "July Heat"
Common "Like Water For Chocolate (Instrumentals)"
14 K.T. "Golden Hour"
Kev Brown "I Do What I Do (Instrumentals)"
Dert "Talk Strange"
Floyd The Locsmif "Divine Dezignz #1.2:Re-Discovered"
Black Milk "Color Purple Beat Tape"
Mad Men "Mad Men On Arrival (Instrumentals)"
LMNO & Kev Brown "Selective Hearing (tracks 12-22)"
Madlib "Medicine Show No.5: History Of The Loop Digga (1990-2000)"
JayDee "Welcome 2 Detroit (Instrumentals)"
JayLib "Champion Sound (Instrumentals)"
Dj J-Rocc "Thank You JayDee (all 3 volumes)"
And anything else by J-Dilla (beat cds, the donut stuff, etc)

That's probably a lot to some but to me it's only a few, but they're all good for repeat listens.

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>Flying Louts "Raw Cartoons" & "July Heat"

Seriouz queztion, my man: do you lyke deez mo' den da albumz he'z releazed?


>14 K.T. "Golden Hour"

Thiz (no Mac Dre-LOL! ) wuz da lazt one dat really imprezzed me.


>Dert "Talk Strange"

An' diz. I poazted about diz; I'm sure you saw.


>Black Milk "Color Purple Beat Tape"

Thiz wuz kool.


>Mad Men "Mad Men On Arrival (Instrumentals)"

Neva heard uv diz.


>Madlib "Medicine Show No.5: History Of The Loop Digga
>(1990-2000)"

I need ta hear diz soona ratha den lata.


>An' anything elze by J-Dilla (beat CD'z, the donut stuff, etc)

One day Ima start liztenin' ta hiz beat CD'z, but I been hezitant to go down dat road on a coupla levelz.

Peaze, brutha.

P.S. I know you don't wanna hear diz, but I really think Da Good Dr.Orcheztrate and Conyay Mezz could do some seriouz damage if they ever tried they handz at diz.

i never got around to buying it.

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Seems to be never mentioned whenever topics like this come up so I'll do my duty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mVcn0hP5I

I think the "hook" on this (wait for it) made me cry first time I heard it lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9jLQYFo7so

http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Breeze-Maker/dp/B00095L8VQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1281678050&sr=8-1

It's kinda in the same lane as Blockhead, with heavy drums and songs that unfold gradually so you gotta be patient.
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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers. (c) Kno

*tisk-tisk*

Ya'll know I'm kidding, right? But for real.

Fat Jon the Ample Soul Physician, I don't wanna be a fanboy and be like GET EVERYTHING so my favorites are (not including Five Deez and 3582 stuff, although I believe there are instrumentals for those, too......very necessary):

"Humanoid Erotica"

Favorite song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPiNl_QjWi4

If you got a nice system or headphones, turn the lights off, close your eyes, and LISTEN. OMG. The hi-hats, the subtle, drifting sample work. Masterful.

"Wave Motion"

Favorite song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNo82zDnTRU

Again, subtlety! The horn and keys drifting about.

"Lightweight Heavy"

Favorite song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-byLh6_wSKw

"Repaint Tomorrow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_LHot5a-w

Drums, horns, yes.

"Beautiful Killing Machine"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yovdJmT9Qs0



I could go on, but I'm getting tired, but let me just say one thing. The thing I love about Fat Jon is just how f'n sexy and classy his production is. I know subtle and boring can be a fine line, but he does it right, imo. His bread and butter is the chill-out, cool joints but he has a ton of up-tempo and otherwise non-chill stuff, too, particularly with his Five Deez and 3582 collabo projects.

I'm a broken record after all these years, but I think he's crucially underrated and one of the best the past decade.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers. (c) Kno

>"Wave Motion"
>
>Favorite song:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNo82zDnTRU
>
>Again, subtlety! The horn and keys drifting about.

His stuff are quite pricey to get a hold of. You'll be 20 odd pounds just for his used albums lol.

>His stuff are quite pricey to get a hold of. You'll be 20 odd
>pounds just for his used albums lol.

I was able to get "Beautiful Killing Machine" new off ebay for about 20 dollars.....shippped from Korea. The Five Deez albums and 3582 stuff weren't hard to find at the time they came out, I'm not sure what the status is now.

And I have actual copies of Wave Motion, Humanoid...., and Repainting Tomorrow. Everything else I downloaded.

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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers. (c) Kno

>"Humanoid Erotica"
>
>Favorite song:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPiNl_QjWi4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zfaTjmqZjU&feature=related

one of Fat Jon's best...

message from the depths, and jaku are both excellent albums. both have a couple of vocal tracks though. especially jaku is quite a departure from his previous work, there's a shitload of styles and influences in there, to the point where I'm not sure one would really classify it as hiphop. def one of my favourite (almost) instrumental albums though.

one of the best and most straightforward tracks on jaku:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMe283Y91DM&feature=related

so many vocalists on it that it didn't even occur to me to mention. it's a hip-hop producer/turntablist album, but i couldn't call it an instrumental hip-hop album. the others are closer to that.

i find dj krush very underrated in these conversations about beats.

aye zen is a great album too. i often think a set of instrumentals of zen would be a good listen. was going to say it might be one of my favourite krush albums, but realised i don't even really have a least favourite one, all of his work is top drawer to me.

definitely one of my favorite inst albums. very dark, with some weird ass samples.

and i gotta check out those other ones you mentioned above.

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>definitely one of my favorite inst albums. very dark, with
>some weird ass samples.

mine, too, and agreed

duh.

i think i waited until spring 2000 to buy it. there were a lot of great albums that came out 99/2000 that i couldn't buy everything on the release day.

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when it comes to instrumentals, he should be metioned before Rjd2, dilla, malib, blockhead etc..

what amazes me about krush is really the consistency of his work. every album is a progression from the previous, and they all sound distinctly different from each other but at the same time he manages to keep that very distinctive krush vibe going through all his music.

and your above point is very true. he's a hugely underrated and overlooked musician.

I'll have to review to see if I have any additions but great list so far.
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Off the top I would roll with Dr. No, the Beat Konducta series, and anything Flying Lotus

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both are worth giving a listen (vol. 2, the better of the two). Has some of the instrumentals to the joints he produced.

shit, i totally forgot about collecting the kid. there are some limited vocals on this, but i'd consider it an instrumental album really. although some of it is instrumentals of previously released tracks, it's a good listen and flows well. also the weareallgoingtoburninhell releases deserve a mention.

this thread got me digging through my collection ha ha. another couple i dug out were:

req - car paint scheme not sure if many people are listening to req, this album is worth checking out

and

nobody - soulmates but i think this might have originally come out in the 90s. my copy says 2000 but i have a feeling it might be a reissue. it's on a uk label, catskills. double vinyl. i'm sure i've seen a single vinyl release of it with a different sleeve.

and

tes - x2 this album came with both vocal and instrumentals on seperate vinyl, but i find myself often listening to the instros when i pull it out, i think they work well as an album in their own right, it's a good listen. not to say his raps aren't good as well though. especially say when...

i also pulled out the heliocentrics album and the mmr-adm featuring malcolm catto, wouldn't necessarily consider these hiphop per say, but they're great album ins that sort of vein.

Just wondering where we draw the line between instrumental hip-hop and the stuff that used to get labelled as trip-hop (which used to include DJ Shadow, DJ Krush etc).

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personally, i never counted dj shadow or dj krush as trip-hop; to me, they were just instrumental hip-hop, even if the term "trip-hop" was supposedly coined to describe shadow's "in/flux"... either way, they're more hip-hop than someone whose dominant sound is synth-driven and whose rhythms scarcely resemble boom bap

He has a few but Drums of Death was a fav of mine.
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is from its producer, jack dangers (meat beat manifesto).

They have released a couple which are all worth listening to. Some of them are album instrumentals, so if you're not a fan of the vocal album you can just zone out to BSBD's productions.

Blue Sky Black Death - Late Night Cinema
Blue Sky Black Death - A Heap Of Broken Images (first disk is intrumentals, while the second features vocals from emcees)
Blue Sky Black Death - The Holocaust (intrumentals)
Blue Sky Black Death & Jean Grae - The Evil Jeanius (intrumentals)
Blue Sky Black Death & Hell Razah - Razah's Ladder (intrumentals)

This weekend up thru now I've had his albums in rotation (Seeing Spirits, Traditional Heritage, Acid Massive Musical, Opus of Love). His new album is dope, too (Full-Time Work, Part-Time Play).

I actually don't have "Serious Business This!", I need to get on that.

His debut "From Artz Unknown" is ANOTHER winner, although that's primarily with MC's with a few instrumental interludes.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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>This weekend up thru now I've had his albums in
>rotation His debut "From Artz Unknown" is
>ANOTHER winner, although that's primarily with
>MC's with a few instrumental interludes.

I'm not going to front I got a promo copy of "Frum Artz Unknown" when it first came out & didn't even pay attention to the cd for almost a year later (cause I saw a feature from Visionaires on it which made me thought it would be wack) but I took a listen when I came across it again & knew I would like the Declaime joints on it; anyway I ended up listening to that cd for almost a year straight, almost every other day I was listening to this cd, dope beats from beginning to end.

Hey you need to check out the vinyl version of Mad Men "On Arrival" cause it has instrumenals & bonus instrumentals that's not even on the cd version.

https://tinyurl.com/y4ba6hog

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>Hey you need to check out the vinyl version of Mad Men "On
>Arrival" cause it has instrumenals & bonus instrumentals
>that's not even on the cd version.

I didn't know that, I have that cd.

My only issue with Kankick is I feel like (for these instrumental/beat joints) he lets the beats ride a little too long sometimes. I know it's nitpicky and some people not might get what I mean. The beat is almost always nice, but it rides too long without any significant change-ups, tweeks, or something to spice it up after the initial 1 minute or so of "wow, this is dope!". A drum-pattern or slight sample-flip change or just shorter tracks would go a long way.

But this is a minor quibble.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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Adult Swim clued me in way back, so I'll try to go in order of discovery:

Fat Jon at the top of the pile. Five Deez - Koolmotor was my very first hip hop album (have the cd insert poster mounted on my wall) and everything Jon's released since. 14 Years is also one of my favorites. Dude is just incredible.

Prefuse 73 I hold in just as high regard. Despite like five years of negative press, dude still pushes on and keeps his music wild and interesting. He's finally coming back to Dallas in October, too, so I'm super excited to see him live again.

Madlib's work, can't discount it. Unseen Instrumentals is one of my favorite pieces of wax, Beat Konducta stuff is superdope, Madvillain is a classic (y'all know this), etc. etc. etc.

Ishwip brought up Maker, who I'd completely forgot about. Got to meet him years and years ago when he came through Denton. Real cool guy, ended up gabbing at him for a while. Shooting the Breeze is a solid listen all the way through, I was bumping that album heavy back in 06.

Nobody "Soulmates", Daedelus "Exquisite Corpse", Pete Rock "Surviving Elements", Dabyre "One/Three", Dimlite's first and second albums (I need to hunt down Prismic Tops!), Afta-1 "Aftathoughts", Caural had some good albums, Reminder, Ammoncontact, where the fuck did Flying Lotus come from in 2006? I heard "My Room is White" and just about exploded, 1983 and Los Angeles are wild. Dr. Who Dat? "Beat Journey" I can never get tired of, , Geology's Beat Tape, Samiyam "The Return EP", Grooveman Spot "Eternal Development", Thomas Fehlmann "Lowflow", Toshinori Kondo and DJ Krush "Ki-Oku", Nujabes' albums, all that Samurai Champloo shit with Fat Jon and Tsutchie and Force of Nature...

Man, I dunno, I'm giving up for now.

Beats composed from samples of commercial music by one guy. Very capable beatmaking, but the commercial messages really create an extra layer or context for me. Like it draws a link between the false realities perpetuated by advertising and the false realities perpetuated by hip hop.

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incredible stuff...hit google to find a link...it's a free download