"Used to be slammin hip hop tracks that are now irrelevant "
You know, all those songs that were made in the 90s that were just rappin over an old school track with a slightly changed up beat... as time passed and they were no longer new or fresh themselves most people would just rather hear the track it was based on and bypass the middle man. Like there's nothing they added that makes you have to every hear their version again.
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2. "RE: Used to be slammin hip hop tracks that are now irrelevant " In response to Reply # 0
I was ready for this thread to go in a completely different direction and be about how unlistenable and pointless the "FUCK BUSH" tracks are post-Obama.
3. "actually shit like that can hold up" In response to Reply # 2
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5. "RE: Close to the top of the list" In response to Reply # 4
you better throw Miami in there for good measure...although those tracks were pretty corny from the start. you would check yourself anytime you found yourself dancing or bobbing your head to 'em in public.
12. "Men In Black even more so" In response to Reply # 7
Good call
and for the record, when I say "slammin" I just mean it got a lot of run at the time. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
9. "lol, the 'straight loop' post." In response to Reply # 0
I still will listen to B.I.G.'s "Juicy", but "Hypnotize" is some PB&J (not as many memorable lines as the former).
I'm on the fence w/"I Love The Dough" too -- Angela Winbush is actually on the song, but I feel that beat/rhyme is in Jay's best style, the "bougie rap" he started rocking since '96. Ditto for Jay's "You're Only A Customer"...
13. "See this is a good example" In response to Reply # 9
>I still will listen to B.I.G.'s "Juicy", but "Hypnotize" is >some PB&J (not as many memorable lines as the former).
Some of these loops tracks can stand up ... but not many. A lot has to do with the flow but it's interesting you picked two songs from biggie... one you can listen to the other you can't. I find a lot of Pac songs with loops I still dig... but then Pacs one of my all time favorite hip hop voices so it's always been more than the music with him.
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14. "I can listen to Breed's track before EPMD's" In response to Reply # 11 Tue Mar-30-10 02:53 PM by OldPro
I think it's the part that was sampled ... that little spacey shit at the end of the Zapp record is always dope to me. The fact he built the song around it made it more appealing to my ears. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
34. "songs from the 80s that have 808 drumtracks" In response to Reply # 0
that NY/mantronix style, miami bass style, even the nwa style 808. the way young producers freak an 808 today, that pop style, aren't influenced by 80s rap.
50. "yeah its influenced by not wanting to use anything but presets" In response to Reply # 34
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83. "Tone these niggas crazy man" In response to Reply # 51
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55. "Naw I think " I Wish" still works" In response to Reply # 36
I find myself listening to the 'Nard song waiting for that part to come in... it always makes me want to go put on the Skee Lo song. That sample really is the best part of the track. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
99. "I'll still defend Skee Lo's song" In response to Reply # 36
the funny, light-hearted verses and that creative sampling of Bernard Wright's joint (@ the time, he wasn't one referenced much -- outside of Snoop's "Gz and Hustlas".)
42. "pretty much every beat Swizz Beatz has ever done" In response to Reply # 0
I never liked any of it but niggas used to swear by his shit they was wrong then, and they're wrong now
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46. "sample did all the work on that one, I know what u mean tho" In response to Reply # 44
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57. "if I wanna hear a nigga run his finger acroos a keyboard I'll play" In response to Reply # 56
some ol' Steve Larence or some shit, where niggas do it with class
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102. "that shit is god awful" In response to Reply # 56
and always was
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43. "oh, and the only reason I posted in here was to support your use" In response to Reply # 0
of the word 'slammin'
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2 of his 3 hits were just rapping over Lakeside songs as is ... wtf did he bring to the table? _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
63. "Wasn't he pretty well respected on the West Coast ??" In response to Reply # 60
His work with W.C. and Maad Circle...Snoop even shouted him out before he was well known. "It Takes A Thief" really wasn't a bad album if I remember correctly...
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93. "Bow Down was a year later, but just the connection's artists" In response to Reply # 80
Coolio's main years were 94-95, and Mack 10/WC's albums dropped in 95 when they first linked up...so at that time period, we were much more into their music
98. "his best single IMO was... 'County Line'" In response to Reply # 59
but I felt Coolio was "Puff-in" it before Puff really took off, basically jacking the entire song part and parcel and not even bothering to change the title in the case of the Lakeside and Kool & The Gang cases
I can't hear Stevie's original song now because of how much play "Gangsta's Paradise" got
65. "you mean most songs from 10 yrs ago?" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Mar-31-10 12:12 PM by SoWhat
even beyond Hip-Hop, by the time popular music hits age 10, it sounds/feels dated. irrelevant. it remains so unless/until nostalgia sets in and makes the song relevant again. for us it's nostalgia, and for the youth it's 'freshness'. they hear things in the music we didn't/don't hear, maybe. it happens after the songs have laid dormant for a few yrs. this usually happens at about age 20. it's happening right now w/New Jack Swing, for example. a few yrs ago most of the gen pop didn't give a damn about NJS. at all. and now that late 80s/early 90s nostalgia is ramping up, NJS is the thing. it's on the come up.
so Puffy's 90s music will come back too. in about 5 yrs or so. give it time. all that mid to late 90s stuff will come back. well, not ALL of it, but some of it. the key songs and a few 'underappreciated' gems along w/them.
68. "We're talkin about songs based on older songs" In response to Reply # 65
So once they both age people tend to listen to the better end product ... in most cases it's the original. I'm not going to fuck with Men in Black when I have Forget Me Nots as an option. _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
i thought that's what all hip hop songs were. Rapping over old tracks with changed up beats. Hence the word sampling, and yes i am being a smart ass. Lets not try to make hip hop somthing it ain't.
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