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Shit, i jumped in a little too fast. I didn't even read anything past the following two lines..<P>>Now, I must clown you, Spirit. <BR>>You're "beef" makes absolutely NO SENSE. <P>but the rest of your post was making sense as I was reading it. Let me address each of these issues point by point and apologize for my hastiness in disrespecting you.<P>><BR>>Okay, let me get this straight...you're NOT <BR>>from DC. You said that. <BR>> You've come to DC via <BR>>New Orleans.<P>Right.<P>> You're upset that <BR>>in shows in DC, folks be <BR>>CLAIMING to rep the spot, when <BR>>they don't. Okay, understood. <BR>>I'm born and raised in DC <BR>>(though I relocated to another city <BR>>last year with the j-o-b), I <BR>>can see how some DC MCs <BR>>got beef with other acts/MCs getting <BR>>on when local talent is abundant. <P>Right.<P>> Okay, I'm feelin that. YOU'RE <BR>>NOT FROM DC, why the 'uck <BR>>to you care??? <P>Because I have decided to make this place my home and have many friends and loved ones here.<P>>Okay, you didn't get on...you're madd at <BR>>the Lyricist Lounge, cause they put <BR>>someone on who wasn't from DC. <BR>> So, say if the Lounge <BR>>put YOU on (cause, don't front, <BR>>this sounds like what this is <BR>>really about--you not getting on)...can I <BR>>get online and then proceed to <BR>>CLOWN you, cause YOU'RE NOT FROM <BR>>DC?<P>Difference: 93-95, your argument would be strong, because I was rhyming around howard, but not really in DC (the two are seperate, I assure you, many people at Howard have no love for DC and vice versa). 95-99, your argument holds less water, because I have been steadily rhyming at DC spots, networking, building with fools, organizing showcases, promoting people's albums. It's analogous to how Tupac was repping Cali even though he was born and raised in NY. He was putting in so much work, to question whether he was repping Cali is silly...<P>> Remember, I'm born and <BR>>raised...and my beef is, YOU GOT <BR>>A LOTTA 'UCKIN NERVE! But <BR>>it's funny how you got the <BR>>same beef, BUT YOU'RE NOT FROM <BR>>DC! Then, you have the <BR>>audacity to bring all these anonymous <BR>>people (and I noticed you named <BR>>NO names, just "people you talked <BR>>to that was in the audience") <P>Names: Jihad (seven-eight years here, also a non resident) Ghost (born and raised here), RBI (born and raised here). Ghost AKA Boogie Man Ghost has been rhyming for a ridiculously long period of time, since he was 10, I beleive. RBI has been DJing a ridiculous number of years. None of these people knew who Flo was, unless I am completing forgetting the conversation or misinterpreting it. If you like, i will do a straw poll of who had seen Flo rock in DC pre-98.<P>>into the mix and rant about <BR>>how they "didn't know who Flo <BR>>Brown was". Okay, so that <BR>>justifies everything...the people YOU talked to <BR>>didn't know who she was, had <BR>>never heard of her, so therefore, <BR>>she must not "rep" DC. <P>I already admitted my mistake in presuming that she did not rep and later noted that I should have asked her personally: do you feel you rep DC?<P>>THEN you say in one of <BR>>your posts that DC heads is <BR>>feelin' her.<P>Did I say that? I said i am feeling her. The DC heads at Black lily felt her. Prior to Lyricist lounge (98), I wasn't aware of her existence.<P>> What is it gonna <BR>>be? <P>It's gonna be that pre-98, i didn't know who she was. Maybe she was ripping some spots I was unaware of.<P>>Now, Flo Brown wrote in one of <BR>>her posts that she never claimed <BR>>to rep DC, she repped The <BR>>Bricks, and that she had love <BR>>for DC, cause, she went to <BR>>school there. SO WHAT'S THE <BR>>PROBLEM?<P>The problem is they placed her on stage as a representative for DC. I'm not certain if she put in the work necessary to claim such representative status.<P>> Okay, so then you <BR>>said you had no problem with <BR>>her, that you had a problem <BR>>with the Lyricist Lounge, and that <BR>>she is only "in the middle". <BR>> Oh, that's nice, clown Flo <BR>>Brown<P>How did I clown her? Please provide a direct quote.<P>> and put her in the <BR>>middle of some ish that's supposed <BR>>to be between you and the <BR>>Lounge, cause, ish, it's easy, "I'm <BR>>hotter than she is, her ish <BR>>is aight"<P>I never said that. i have consistently shown her proper respect throughout this thread. never once have I mentioned my own level of emceeing. You are reading something that was not written and you are mistaken.<P>> (and, don't front, the <BR>>way your ego has played out <BR>>in your posts, you know that's <BR>>what you're thinking). <P>That's not what I was thinking. you are not a telepath. If you want to know what I am thinking, ASK ME. To do otherwise is foolhardy.<P>> So, you <BR>>go off on Flo Brown<BR>> for <BR>>not CLARIFYING for the DC crowd <BR>>that she is, in fact, from <BR>>The Bricks and that the Lounge <BR>>made a boo-boo.<P>Well, actually I stated (I did not "go off") that she never clarified whether she was DC or the brocks or both.<P>> (And I'm <BR>>still keeping in mind that YOU'RE <BR>>NOT FROM DC) Okay, that <BR>>makes a lot of sense. Get <BR>>onstage and say to a mostly <BR>>DC crowd, "NAW, YO, I AIN'T <BR>>FROM DC, I REP THE BRICKS, <BR>>'UCK A DC, I'M BRICK CITY, <BR>>YO".<P>No, grab the mic and say, "Actually, my man, I rep Brick City (or wherever she reps)". There is no need to disrespect when claiming where you rep. Be serious. When I first touched ground in DC, I made it a point to consistently rep New Orleans, because from 93-96, except for Mystikal, we had no real national representation (then along came the Master P explosion).<P>> That would have gone <BR>>over REAL well with the crowd: <BR>>an HU head going outta her <BR>>way to distance herself from DC. <P>That crowd was by and large a college crowd anyway, in my opinion. It was also mostly white (although clearly white people also live in DC, my experience is that in underground hip-hop shows in the area such as Lyricist Lounge, a high white population indicates a combination of suburbanites and GW, American, and Georgetown students).<P>> Yeah. <BR>>Okay, so in your latest post, you <BR>>say some bull-ish about people from <BR>>NY not giving outside cats their <BR>>due. Okay, where in the <BR>>context of your beef with Flo <BR>>Brown does that statement fit?<P>You're assuming that everything has to fit in one context or always somehow relate to Flo brown. that is a fallacious assumption. Again, Flo was the individual chosen to rep DC. The Lyricist Lounge cats had been escorted around by Illcon Production reps regarding bringing Lyricist Lounge to DC as far back as late 97, if my memory serves. They even hit a spot I helped promote. These cats had plenty of time to find people (a) born and raised in DC or (b) established in the scene, regardless of origin. Am I assuming that Flo Brown is not established in the DC scene? Yeah, I am, but I'm more than willing to admit I'm wrong if I hear the contrary.<P>> Flo <BR>>Brown is not from NY...she's from <BR>>The Bricks, remember?<P>Where is the Lyricist Lounge based? Read what I wrote again with that in mind.<P> So what <BR>>are you talking about? <BR>>You sound madd suspect. I'm not <BR>>feelin or trustin your energy, cause <BR>>it's NEGATIVE.<P>It's hardly negative. Read what I wrote again with an open mind.<P>> You're gasping for <BR>>air, yo. You're grasping for <BR>>straws.<P>Again, not hardly. Regardless of what happens, DC will shine.<P>> I'm feelin Flo <BR>>Brown, she's positive and genuine...I heard <BR>>that poem that nite at the <BR>>DC Lily, and it just sent <BR>>chills up my spine. She <BR>>a female MC reppin and I'm <BR>>liking that.<P>I like the fact that she is a dope emcee. Her gender isn't a factor to me.<P>> It's fine if <BR>>you don't like her, that's your <BR>>biz, your opinion.<P>How the hell did you read that I did not like her? Now I know you're not reading what I'm writing because through the course of this thread I've probably called her dope about 7 times already.<P>> But don't <BR>>get online and proceed to chastise <BR>>others about "reppin", cause you all <BR>>hot and bothered by the fact <BR>>that Flo Brown (a Brick City <BR>>cat) did a show in DC <BR>>(and I'm still keeping in mind <BR>>that YOU'RE NOT FROM DC)<P>And keeping in mind that I've been putting in crazy work for the DC scene. By the way, Anita, what exactly do you do in the DC scene?<P>> and <BR>>you weren't on that same stage. <P>I'm not concerned with me being on the stage. I've been on plenty of stages. I would have liked someone like Ghost or Khemystery to have gotten that exposure though. Or even Infinite Loop or 3LG, who have put in mad work.<P>> That poster wrote in the <BR>>subject header somethin bout Flo Brown <BR>>"reppin DC" during their review of <BR>>the show...okay, they made a mistake, <BR>>maybe they didn't know that Flo <BR>>Brown was not from DC...OKAY? <BR>>Can the person that wrote that <BR>>post LIVE? Damn!<P>I was clarifying that point. That person's name was Kawright. You didn't take the time to read her name? I'm hardly attacking her. I think you need to carefully read what I write and carefully read in general.<P>> Then <BR>>you have the nerve to chastise <BR>>and correct them, when, (guess what?), <BR>>YOU'RE NOT FROM DC EITHER! <P>I am told KRS-ONE was born in Jersey. Does this mean he has not been repping South Bronx to the fullest for years now? Either havok or Prodigy is from Long Island. You saying both of those cats don't rep Queensbridge to the fullest? Hip-hop history dilutes your argument...<P>>Like I wrote in my "Watch Out, <BR>>Now" post, it ain't where ya <BR>>from, it's where ya at. <P>Well, Rakim was the first to popularize that phrase, not you. And it's actually where your heart is. If Flo Brown's heart is in repping DC and she's putting the work in, then she reps DC.<P>>It's so obvious that you got <BR>>beef with this young lady, even <BR>>though you write otherwise.<P>I don't know her. This is no way that I can have beef with her. The only way you know what I'm thinking is by what I write.<P>> It's <BR>>transparent, yo. You talk about <BR>>all the shows you done (to <BR>>obviously show folks that "I'm somebody, <BR>>too"), the stages you rocked, puh-lease, <BR>>Spirit.<P>Puh-leese, Anita. All I'm showing is I put in the pre-requisite amount of work to say that I rep DC, period. I have no vested interest in impressing you or anyone else on this board.<P> If you don't know <BR>>where Flo Brown has been, what <BR>>shows she's done, if you don't <BR>>know her, then don't assume that <BR>>just cause you ain't heard of <BR>>her, she ain't did nothing. <P>Actually, it was a rebuttable presumption. she could have rebutted it by saying "I rocked x spot or y spot".<P>>I heard of you, I been <BR>>to a few shows, and you <BR>>were, um, wack.<P>Sure. What shows were those? And I don't particularly care for your one solo opinion when lots of people have stepped to me following shows and said I was....um...dope. And cats keep coming back to see me perform and step to me to request I perform so...um...fuck you.<P> So there <BR>>goes that theory. <BR>>And then your subject header for your <BR>>latest post, for me, was the <BR>>real clincher...somethin bout "Pride...and War". <BR>>You know what pride is? <BR>>Knowing that your ish is tight, <BR>>and doin' it every nite. <BR>>Black Thought is PRIDE. <P>No, you don't know what pride is. Pride is being so focused on the self you lose the bigger picture. Black thought is quite humble, actually. I think you're confusing pride with confidence.<P>>Obviously, you got NONE OF IT. <BR>> Know why? Cause you <BR>>ashamed of where you from, and <BR>>got the nerve to be jockin' <BR>>DC.<P>I never deny that I was raised in new Orleans and often mention it in rhyme. As I type this I'm wearing a sweatshirt that has "New Orleans" emblazoned across the front. And how would you know I was from New Orleans if I hadn't of said it countless times on the boards? You don't know me. Next show you see me at, step to me. I'm not "jocking DC", I'm in the process of building DC. And immeasurable cats have thanked me for the work I put in to promote this scene.<P>> This misogynist ish you <BR>>spitting,<P>Misogyny????????? Now, you are truly, really bugging. Nothing I wrote could in any way be construed as misogyny.<P>> all this bravado is nervous, <BR>>Spirit, for real. Please come <BR>>with the real ish, cause you <BR>>will get played. <P>Put simply, anita, if you are an emcee, we can battle. If you a civilian, we can debate. either way, you'll lose, guaranteed.<P>Peace,<P>Spirit<BR><a href="http://amphibians.iuma.com">http://amphibians.iuma.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://infiniteloop.iuma.com">http://infiniteloop.iuma.com<;/a><BR>DC hip-hop is on the rise...<P>"High grade when I create beats/if I don't get signed/I'ma be the most dope bum that ever walked the streets" - <BR>Aychell (HL, of Khemystery)<P>"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a tool of the conspiracy" - unknown
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), had a lemonade and we dipped to the club. <P>We met up with Res1 and Thunder outside...I guess I did first...they were all quiet, not tryin' to say hi, so I approached, hand extended *it pays to wear those OK tees, man*. Inside we sat/stood at the bar *why ya'll kept stealin' my chair!* and chilled...until this ooooolllldddd cat kept tryin' to get at me...I was lookin' to my girl Grav for support...got NONE...looked to emil's boy...stil none...so after 3 stories about the Beatles and why this cat cries at every Eric Clapton song, I had to politely dip *damn, lost my chair again*<P>Shortly after, I venture outside and say what's up to the NYC fam - Nazdak (bully), DeePhunk (groove buddy), Melanism (cutie w/ the sticker on his head) and GoodRev...shit, your name is just too long 