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"Can we discuss *BAD* concert experiences?"


          

My friends and I went out last night to see Snoop Dogg in Cincinnati. It was a small venue, tickets were $40 (plus convenience charges... that is a post for a different day), and we were all excited at seeing the Doggfather in a more 'intimate' setting. So, let me lay the night out for you...

Doors open 7pm, show starts 8pm. That's what the ticket said. Unfortunately, that was not the case...

I saw an itinerary once we were all inside, that said Snoop was not due out until 11pm, after something called The Movie and The Constellations. Nothing happened until 8:40pm, when The Movie showed the making of Snoop's latest album, Malice-N-Wonderland. Apparently, whoever organized and set this up, thought it would be a good idea to show a bunch of drunk people a making of Snoop's latest and shittiest album. No shit... I paid money to see... a fucking movie??? I could of seen this on my couch, only if I had gotten it for free before going to bed on a week night. It also reminded that Snoop has gotten someone like Soulja Boy to be on his albums nowadays.

That horrible decision lasted about 45 minutes, and then the crowd was treated to a band called The Constellations. Not only were they a shitty live band, the sound sucked, and the singer was indistinguishable. I couldn't hear the keyboardist, and there was one guy who was up there pretending to play a guitar. They were booed, outside of mentioning Snoop's name for a cheer.

11 came and gone. My friends and I were so upset and disappointed up to this point, we wanted to leave, however, No Re-entry means you stay or leave for good. At 11:30pm, Snoop finally made an appearance and put on a good show. He played classics from his long catalog, and when he was there, suddenly, I forgot the rest of the night. Not only that, if I was not mistaken (or too drunk that is), I believe Tha Dogg Pound, Soopafly, and Hi-Tek (Cincy baby!) were all live too. That is, until I realized that he only played for under an hour, ending just before 12:30am. An hour. I just saw Jay-Z, and the show lasted 2+ hours, complete with openers J. Cole and NERD.

To sum this up, money was spent to watch a dumb making of movie that was cued up from a DVD player, a shitty band that nearly ruined the show, and an extremely short set from the main act. That equals a waste of money. I will not pay to see him again, and is only worth it as part of a festival. With as many albums and hits as he has, 2 hours should be no problem. I know his attempts at following up Doggystyle have fell short, but cmon, who passes up Snoop Dogg? I know I will next time, I learned my lesson. Highly disappointing.

That's not all, but apparently this has happened a lot on his tour from reading reviews online.

I know this happens. My friend waited until 1am one night to Wale, and when he showed, he only played for 30 minutes. Wale lost a fan that night.

Is this excessive? Should I have been prepared to wait that long? Does this happen and I just was not previously aware?

Add on, let's discuss...

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Hiphop shows start notoriously late, which is why I don't go to them
Feb 22nd 2010
1
Im beginning to understand this...
Feb 22nd 2010
6
Yep but not always
Feb 22nd 2010
43
      the exceptions are usually festivals and roots shows
Feb 23rd 2010
101
i am gonna make this story short
Feb 22nd 2010
2
That is both awesome and horrible at once...
Feb 22nd 2010
7
CONFESSION SUNDAY: i passed out during two seperate roots sets
Feb 22nd 2010
3
let me get thid str8..u were rewarded with stage seats 4 being a drunk
Feb 22nd 2010
69
      CONFESSION MONDAY: i wasnt intoxicated n/m
Feb 22nd 2010
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RE: Can we discuss *BAD* concert experiences?
Feb 22nd 2010
4
RE: Can we discuss *BAD* concert experiences?
Feb 22nd 2010
5
I can relate to the rain experience...
Feb 22nd 2010
8
It's all my fault but, CunninLynguists in October
Feb 22nd 2010
9
Hahaha i had a similar experience seeing CL
Feb 22nd 2010
47
      The show was amazing; somehow I wasn't even mad
Feb 22nd 2010
53
           Was this the Qn5 Jawn
Feb 22nd 2010
60
KRS pulled that shit on me once at SOB's.
Feb 22nd 2010
10
aka the 'Why don't you go to Hip-Hop shows anymore?' post
Feb 22nd 2010
11
P-funk in austin around 2001ish
Feb 22nd 2010
12
Eek-a-Mouse, at a club in Kanadia, early oughts.
Feb 22nd 2010
13
Outkast/Dungeon family
Feb 22nd 2010
14
this makes me nervous for the Goodie show in LA this weekend
Feb 22nd 2010
16
      The Goodie show from this summer was amazing.
Feb 22nd 2010
18
           just got my ticket man... .can't wait
Feb 22nd 2010
80
           RE: The Goodie show from this summer was amazing.
Feb 22nd 2010
82
Ive never had a bad concert experience
Feb 22nd 2010
15
GRITS opening for OutKast
Feb 22nd 2010
17
FUCK MOS DEF.....
Feb 22nd 2010
19
lol @ our replies coming at the same time
Feb 22nd 2010
30
*Reply with Mos Def Stories Underneath Here*
Feb 22nd 2010
20
I'll move mine under here if that's the rule.
Feb 22nd 2010
26
RE: *Reply with Mos Def Stories Underneath Here*
Feb 22nd 2010
59
list rappers/rap acts who are worth your money to see
Feb 22nd 2010
21
it's been years since I've seen them, but PE's a great live show
Feb 22nd 2010
24
Throw KRS on that list, Q-Tip As Well
Feb 22nd 2010
25
Atmosphere is two people.
Feb 22nd 2010
42
^^^^^ Truth
Feb 22nd 2010
50
I saw Slug sans Ant but plus band twice
Feb 22nd 2010
84
      Did you miss part of it???
Feb 22nd 2010
92
common is STILL fucking dope
Feb 22nd 2010
76
agreed, I've seen him live twice....he's brings it
Feb 22nd 2010
89
      Half the times i have seen him he was week.
Feb 22nd 2010
93
           well at least he wasn't *weak*
Feb 23rd 2010
110
Q-Tip puts on an amazing show
Feb 22nd 2010
88
This could prolly be another thread but my list.....
Feb 22nd 2010
27
lol... De La and Wu are two of the WORST show's I've ever seen
Feb 22nd 2010
28
yeah prolly....
Feb 22nd 2010
31
RE: yeah prolly....
Feb 22nd 2010
33
the general opinion amongst folk i know is de la kills it live
Feb 23rd 2010
103
      it's pretty much the opposite for me
Feb 23rd 2010
108
hell yes
Feb 22nd 2010
32
that looks like a lot of acts that could end up being boring
Feb 22nd 2010
85
Well...
Feb 22nd 2010
36
Roots, hands down.
Feb 22nd 2010
54
Common, Jay-Z, The Roots, Q-Tip, De La Soul, FE and Little Brother
Feb 22nd 2010
90
This Was Purely Your Fault For Showing Up At 8 PM For A Club Rap Show
Feb 22nd 2010
22
Fuck that....
Feb 22nd 2010
29
I'm just telling you the truth, don't ever expect a cat like Snoop to go
Feb 22nd 2010
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      RE: I'm just telling you the truth, don't ever expect a cat like Snoop t...
Feb 22nd 2010
38
           oh yeah, it's a vicious cycle but I don't see it changing anytime soon
Feb 22nd 2010
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                RE: oh yeah, it's a vicious cycle but I don't see it changing anytime so...
Feb 22nd 2010
46
                     yeah, this is why either calling ahead or picking a nearby spot to meet
Feb 22nd 2010
57
                          RE: yeah, this is why either calling ahead or picking a nearby spot to m...
Feb 22nd 2010
58
You're right, but 3+ hours is BS.
Feb 22nd 2010
37
      movie is a bit awkward, the way some of these opening acts sound
Feb 22nd 2010
40
      Pretty sure I waited 4 hours for Kool Keith once...
Feb 22nd 2010
70
           and few have a less impressive live show than Keith, only one that
Feb 22nd 2010
75
really disappointed with MF DOOM a few yrs ago
Feb 22nd 2010
23
you could've just stopped after the subject line man
Feb 22nd 2010
67
let me tell you why you should NOT support Sean Paul
Feb 22nd 2010
35
Yea that sucks...
Feb 22nd 2010
61
      It was so highly disrespectful
Feb 22nd 2010
77
Joe Satriani
Feb 22nd 2010
39
that sucks to hear
Feb 22nd 2010
86
      In all fairness though
Feb 23rd 2010
99
My vote goes to the Roots/Sprite Liquid Mix Tour
Feb 22nd 2010
44
what's so terrible about Robert Randolph?
Feb 22nd 2010
48
Although I was dissapointed by this tour...
Feb 22nd 2010
49
NERD headlined
Feb 22nd 2010
51
RE: NERD headlined
Feb 22nd 2010
56
nah they all left because they were huge OAR fans.
Feb 22nd 2010
83
it was just an odd packaging of acts, oddest since PE & Sisters of Mercy
Feb 22nd 2010
55
or yeah, that OAR shit was garbage too.
Feb 22nd 2010
72
You see, I kinda liked this tour...
Feb 22nd 2010
62
forgot skillz was there...
Feb 22nd 2010
63
Festival sets are like that.
Feb 22nd 2010
65
      RE: Festival sets are like that.
Feb 22nd 2010
68
I'm gonna go ahead and vote on behalf of Mista Monotone
Feb 22nd 2010
45
Saw him and the Clan in Philly
Feb 22nd 2010
52
that's exactly what he would say too
Feb 22nd 2010
71
      RE: that's exactly what he would say too
Feb 23rd 2010
94
           RE: that's exactly what he would say too
Feb 23rd 2010
105
                Lol
Feb 23rd 2010
107
that video performance was okay
Feb 23rd 2010
104
Only a handful of hip hop acts are worth seeing, honestly.
Feb 22nd 2010
64
aka "the Wu Tang live show experience thread"
Feb 22nd 2010
66
i saw ol dirty bastard live in the 90s and he bodied it
Feb 23rd 2010
102
Ghost did an hour+ set after an hour set from SKyzoo & Torae
Feb 23rd 2010
106
      yeah, im moreso talking about 9+member Wu shows
Feb 24th 2010
112
Waited for probably two hours for Lee Scratch Perry at SXSW '07...
Feb 22nd 2010
73
i almost exclusively go to concerts with seats
Feb 22nd 2010
74
Shitty festival experiences:
Feb 22nd 2010
78
Saw a crowd completely turn on Boyz II Men in 2000...
Feb 22nd 2010
79
damn! You know it's tough when cats are cursing out R&B groups!
Feb 23rd 2010
96
      I don't know what the hell they expected though...
Feb 23rd 2010
98
RE: Can we discuss *BAD* concert experiences?
Feb 22nd 2010
81
i saw built to spill once and fell asleep.
Feb 22nd 2010
91
I fell asleep during 311
Feb 23rd 2010
95
      RE: I fell asleep during 311
Feb 23rd 2010
109
Jay Electronica at Rock The Bells 2008
Feb 23rd 2010
97
RE:
Feb 23rd 2010
100
^I keep hearing this^
Feb 23rd 2010
111
While I enjoyed it, Ghost last night in Cincy/northern KY...
Oct 29th 2010
113

quakka1
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1. "Hiphop shows start notoriously late, which is why I don't go to them"
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Especially big names, many acts give half assed performances after ridiculous waits. There are some acts worth seeing, but I have been disappointed one too many times.

  

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6. "Im beginning to understand this..."
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However, all of the hip hop shows prior to this one, I've never had a problem. I've seen Jay-Z and Kid Cudi within the past few monthes, and neither of them had issues of this kind.

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43. "Yep but not always"
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which is why it's mostly a crap shoot to decide what time you really wanna walk in.

My brother made that mistake when we went to Up in Smoke. We strolled in about an hour after it started and missed Ice Cube.

I didn't mind because I had already seen him during his hungry days (Amerikka's Most/Kill at Will)

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101. "the exceptions are usually festivals and roots shows"
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for a roots show, if they say show starts at 8, get yo ass to the front row by 7:59. LOL.
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2. "i am gonna make this story short "
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so a LONG time ago (i remember they were handing out fliers for to attend the million man march) me and my two boys go to a concert at the LA sports arena everyone was on the ticket Wu tang, Biggie, Ice cube and a whole lot of other people hosted by Ice T. my friends and i were about 15 pretty young but we roll and get good floor seats

the way the seats were lined up were an entire floor section facing the stage and two other floor sections on both sides of the main section facing the center section. well we are sitting there having a good time but we had a bunch of crips sitting behind us throwing up their sets and talking shit to a bunch of bloods on the side section. my boys and i move to the upper floor and no less than 10 minutes later chairs start flying, fucking riot patrol comes in and it takes about 30-45 minutes to clear up and then cube starts his set and tears it up and performs the song from friday, can't really remember the name but talks about throw yours sets in the air and once again chairs and bodies start flying LOL

helicopters, cops on horses,

FYI

not sure if the story made sense but i am a bit buzzed

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7. "That is both awesome and horrible at once..."
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3. "CONFESSION SUNDAY: i passed out during two seperate roots sets"
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1st time i got bounced 2nd time they hooked it up w some gatorade and let me watch stageside

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69. "let me get thid str8..u were rewarded with stage seats 4 being a drunk"
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87. "CONFESSION MONDAY: i wasnt intoxicated n/m"
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n/m

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4. "RE: Can we discuss *BAD* concert experiences?"
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i've only walked out of one show before it was over. Raekwon showed up in San Fran around the time Immobilarity dropped and after about 20 minutes I just bounced... Poor sound, too many people with microphones, plus Rae just wasn't captivating as an MC, live at least... I also remember seeing Deltron 3030 around the same time and not being impressed. I'm not a big Del fan so that had something to not be caught up in the show.

But by and large, I've had positive experiences at live shows. I can't complain much, I suppose.

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5. "RE: Can we discuss *BAD* concert experiences?"
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Mon Feb-22-10 02:45 AM by CondoM

  

          

When I was a kid, probably about 7 or 8, dad took me to a Texas concert. Anyway, it was pissing down rain and us and about five other people showed up and it was postponed until the next night, which we couldn't go to.

I don't have any other horrible experiences, but I saw The xx a couple of weeks ago and was hit on by three people. Not one of them had a vagina so it was a little uncomfortable. The xx were great though, a couple of people had told me that they were shit live, so I guess they got them on a bad night (or I got them on a good one).

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8. "I can relate to the rain experience..."
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In fact, that was another time I saw Snoop, although he was touring with Jay-Z and 50 Cent at the time for the Roc the Mic tour. There were not issues with tardiness, however it was the worst rain storm I've ever seen, and my boys and I were standing in it.

Your other experience? I know just how uncomfortable that can be, but never at a concert though.

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9. "It's all my fault but, CunninLynguists in October"
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Kno came out in the crowd, grabbed me and made me jump up and down with him, but I was in no way prepared to be moving and all my shit went flying out of my hoodie - phone, iPod Touch, wallet - I got the wallet and the phone back, but the iPod Touch was lost for good and I didn't realize it until an hour and a couple drinks later. It was freezing outside and I was wandering all over the streets and bar, praying I'd spot it somewhere. After about an hour of drunk searching I gave up and moved onto CD-Rs in the whip, and even REAL CDs, but it doesn't feel the same.

I've burned something like 20 MP3 CDs for myself since the incident, roughly like two per week, and I'm just wasting my resources and I start disliking the discs almost as soon as I burn them. I need to have that massive library shuffling like a crazy radio and updating every time I hook it up with new music!

I was also holding a Guinness draft in a glass at the time, and it splashed all over the girl next to me and her purse. It was a bad look on Kno's part, but I suppose I shouldn't have been so close to the stage if I wasn't ready to get down? IDK.

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47. "Hahaha i had a similar experience seeing CL"
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But not with bad results. There were like ten people seeing them in Herndon, VA and i was hyped. I had drunk all day at the Skins V Browns game so was pretty lit. They start doing hellfire and i am jumping my as aeound like a half beat off (i'm white) and i feel someone grab my beer and i turn around cocked and ready to swing. Know looks at me like chill i was just making sure you didnt spill. Me, him and Deacon proceed to do the chorus again im half a beat off (i'm white). Come to think of this this was one of my favorite shows, felt like it was put on just for me. Sorry to take this post the exact opposite direction.

  

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53. "The show was amazing; somehow I wasn't even mad"
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But still, dude, out $300? like that? .........


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60. "Was this the Qn5 Jawn"
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With the live band at Highline?

  

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10. "KRS pulled that shit on me once at SOB's."
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a few years ago.

it was him, big daddy kane, preem, guru, chuck d and a few others.

niggas was supposed to be on at 9pm. didn't come on until 12:30.

it was a tuesday night and everyone was like, uh ....we gotta go to work in the morning.

i'll never do another hip hop show, ever again.

  

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11. "aka the 'Why don't you go to Hip-Hop shows anymore?' post"
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12. "P-funk in austin around 2001ish"
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THe crowd was annoying as expected but then george clinton had his gradchildren rapping and shit. it was just not a fun experience.

  

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13. "Eek-a-Mouse, at a club in Kanadia, early oughts."
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Dude was SOOOO fucking high. Mumblin' like Mushmouth, staggering all over the stage. Never again.

  

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14. "Outkast/Dungeon family"
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this was a show at the universal amphitehatre in LA about 10 years ago.

It was the worst, "i can scream louder than you", mass hysteria with dozens of people on stage with undistguishable "rapping" mess I have ever seen.

My ears litterally hurt and I still want that time of my life back.

  

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16. "this makes me nervous for the Goodie show in LA this weekend "
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>this was a show at the universal amphitehatre in LA about 10
>years ago.
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>It was the worst, "i can scream louder than you", mass
>hysteria with dozens of people on stage with undistguishable
>"rapping" mess I have ever seen.
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>My ears litterally hurt and I still want that time of my life
>back.

  

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18. "The Goodie show from this summer was amazing."
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80. "just got my ticket man... .can't wait "
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82. "RE: The Goodie show from this summer was amazing."
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I saw Goodie open for The Roots/Fugees in 1995. Touring for Soul Food/DYWM?!/The Score respectively. Everybody killed shit but the Goodie show stuck with me more than anyone elses set and they played the shortest by far. This was my first time seening any of these acts so it was before I knew Malik B wasn't going to be there and their show was going to be classic hip hop 101. As soon as I realized what I was getting I became the biggest Roots fan in the world. They opened that show with Guillotines and the only "Roots" songs they did were Proceed and Swept Away. The evolution of that band has been amazing.

  

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15. "Ive never had a bad concert experience"
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but ive seen brother ali twice, once with atmosphere and once as him as the head liner. He puts on a great show, but his sets were wayy too short. i didnt mind as much when he was with atmosphere but hte 2nd time on the fresh air tour was a little disappointing. but still like i said no bad shows really.

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17. "GRITS opening for OutKast"
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Hella awkward feeling that night, lol. The only people in the arena were my sisters & I, and maybe 3 other people. I do give them props for trying to "rip" it with so few people there, but it was weird for us, trying to occupy our time. I don't even think they finished their show, they just left like, "aight, we see you're not feelin it, and we're embarrassing ourselves, g'night."

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19. "FUCK MOS DEF....."
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taking the stage 3 hours late for a haiti benefit show. Then doing some boring ass, holier than though shit. Left 15 minutes into Mos' set. I had work in the morning! If it wasn't a benefit show I woulda tried to get my money back.

The one shining moment was supernatural showing up unannounced, and well doing what supernat does best.

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30. "lol @ our replies coming at the same time "
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>taking the stage 3 hours late for a haiti benefit show. Then
>doing some boring ass, holier than though shit. Left 15
>minutes into Mos' set. I had work in the morning! If it
>wasn't a benefit show I woulda tried to get my money back.
>
>The one shining moment was supernatural showing up
>unannounced, and well doing what supernat does best.

  

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20. "*Reply with Mos Def Stories Underneath Here* "
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drove all the way from uc santa cruz to uc Davis to catch his show. Show was supposed to start at 10, he comes out at 12:15 or so. The poor promoter kept coming up to the stage and explaining to the crowd that he's running late but will be there. Crowd starting going hard at ol girl after the first hour passed, throwing shit, slurs, etc.

He finally comes out, everybody is already tired because there was no where to sit and we're standing up in a packed room.

Except for Ms Fat Booty, he doesn't do any rapping at all. The set was all stuff from The New Danger

  

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26. "I'll move mine under here if that's the rule."
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"FUCK MOS DEF....."
In response to Reply # 0
taking the stage 3 hours late for a haiti benefit show. Then doing some boring ass, holier than though shit. Left 15 minutes into Mos' set. I had work in the morning! If it wasn't a benefit show I woulda tried to get my money back.

The one shining moment was supernatural showing up unannounced, and well doing what supernat does best.

http://www.goosepimp.net/ - Cosmic Funk

  

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59. "RE: *Reply with Mos Def Stories Underneath Here* "
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man i saw him in philly last week and was impressed...he was on his shit that night (it helped to have slick rick come out half way thought)

he even addressed the situation in chicago a couple weeks ago or whenever it was...basically saying he shouldnt be held accountable for the fake doom ruining the night and his intention is never to fraud anyone

i know your bout it bout it but its how you go about it

  

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21. "list rappers/rap acts who are worth your money to see"
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I can honestly list a quality four:

Jay-Z
Kanye
The Roots
Atmosphere

and I mean I've seen Wayne, Nas, Eminem, 50 Cent etc. Rap shows blow. Overall they blow.

  

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24. "it's been years since I've seen them, but PE's a great live show"
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25. "Throw KRS on that list, Q-Tip As Well"
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I would have said Comm or Mos a few years ago but Comm's new music is so wack & Mos is so flightly that either one of them is probably a coin-flip situation nowadays.

I agree with three of the names you listed though, I'll refrain from co-signing Atmosphere because I've never seen him & don't really know his catalog that well.

I own albums by both 50 & Wayne but I would never spend a penny on seeing either of them live.

  

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42. "Atmosphere is two people."
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>I agree with three of the names you listed though, I'll
>refrain from co-signing Atmosphere because I've never seen him
>& don't really know his catalog that well.

Ant (producer/dj) and Slug (mc). I know what you're saying, it just bugs me every time somebody calls them "him" lol.

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50. "^^^^^ Truth"
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84. "I saw Slug sans Ant but plus band twice"
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talk about a fuckin show dude.

  

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92. "Did you miss part of it???"
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Everytime i have seen them they do about half the set with Ant and Slug and than they bring out the band. I have never seen Atmosphere without Ant.

  

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76. "common is STILL fucking dope"
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even umc sounds good live with him performing it. i hate the album, but enjoyed his show tremendously, even with umc being 60% of it.

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89. "agreed, I've seen him live twice....he's brings it"
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93. "Half the times i have seen him he was week."
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Granted i dont like BE and am not huge on finding forever so listening to a bunch of fucks chant for Go is not my cop of tea. He is much better with a band or at least some kind of instrumentation. His breath control is hit or miss.

  

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110. "well at least he wasn't *weak*"
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88. "Q-Tip puts on an amazing show"
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I saw him twice, once for when The Renaissance was suppose to come out 07 and the other time when it actually did come out 08. Both times were with a live band and they killed it. The 2nd time he headlined (The first he opened for Common) and defiantly went a lot harder, for his last song he literally went into the crowd with the mic, and tried to get every single person to sing the chorus into the mic. It went on for a good 15 minutes and was one of the most amazing thing I've seen a performer do.

  

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27. "This could prolly be another thread but my list....."
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The Roots
Brother Ali
Sage Francis
Atmosphere
Cypress Hill
Mr. Lif
Akrobatik
Aesop Rock
El-P
Jurassic 5
Boots Riley
Wu-Tang (hit or miss though)
Jedi Mind Tricks
Supernatural
De La Soul....

That's what I have off the top of my head right now

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28. "lol... De La and Wu are two of the WORST show's I've ever seen"
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I guess it depends on the time and place

  

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31. "yeah prolly...."
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I just saw de la a couple weeks ago and they were excellent. My only complaint was the set was a little on the short side.

When did you see de la? I have heard nothing but good things from the people i know who have seen them.

I have seen Wu twice. Once was great the other not so much (sound issues with all them dudes yelling on the mics). Even when wu is not that great sounding live, I still enjoy the spectacle.

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33. "RE: yeah prolly...."
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>When did you see de la? I have heard nothing but good things
>from the people i know who have seen them.

-I've seen them a couple of times. once in the late '90s at Salem State (MA) and again at a club show in Providence, '01 or '02

both times the sets were real short
the second time they seemed liked they'd rather be somewhere else.
very uninspired performance

>I have seen Wu twice. Once was great the other not so much
>(sound issues with all them dudes yelling on the mics). Even
>when wu is not that great sounding live, I still enjoy the
>spectacle.

-yes, exactly. it's a spectacle. I love Wu more than some men love their mothers, but the few times I've seen them live they've been awful.

  

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103. "the general opinion amongst folk i know is de la kills it live"
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108. "it's pretty much the opposite for me"
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32. "hell yes "
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>Boots Riley
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85. "that looks like a lot of acts that could end up being boring"
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but it is your opinion after all.

unless you've got HITS, that "me and my DJ" shit can be really tiresome. Starts to look/sound like karaoke after a while.

  

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36. "Well..."
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The Roots, Little Brother, and Jay-Z all put on killer shows.

Common, Talib, Jurassic 5, Obie Trice, Blackalicious, Kid Cudi, and others have put on good shows too.

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54. "Roots, hands down."
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90. "Common, Jay-Z, The Roots, Q-Tip, De La Soul, FE and Little Brother"
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Mos Def has been hit or miss for me. I've seen him twice. Always gets on really late.

Kanye West was incredible at the Glow In The Dark Tour w/ N*E*R*D

N*E*R*D was equally dope live.

I know she's not considered hip-hop, but Erykah Badu is always great live also.

Oh yeah, if you haven't been to a Flying Lotus show put that on the bucket list ASAP!

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22. "This Was Purely Your Fault For Showing Up At 8 PM For A Club Rap Show"
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I have no idea why people still do this.

There is no way a hip-hop headliner is coming on before 11/11:30 in any scenario, especially on a weekend.

Call the box-office the night of to see when the act is actually scheduled to come on & how many opening acts are on the list, then plan to arrive at least a half-hour to an hour after whenever they tell you.

There is no excuse otherwise.

This is why I showed up to the KRS show at The Roxy on Sunset at 11:45 on Friday night, got to see what I paid to see onstage within fifteen minutes of entering the building while saving myself the extra time & cash on inflated drink prices.

  

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29. "Fuck that...."
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I mean an hour or so late okay, that's fine. But 3 hours late, is bullshit especially when there is no opening act. I have been to PLENTY of hip-hop shows that start at a reasonable time.

Fuck blaming a fan for showing up on time.

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34. "I'm just telling you the truth, don't ever expect a cat like Snoop to go"
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on at 8 o'clock at night, it's pretty easy to avoid this situation.

  

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38. "RE: I'm just telling you the truth, don't ever expect a cat like Snoop t..."
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I understand. Part of the problem ends up being people EXPECTING artists to go on late.

It's positive feedback. Artist is usually late, so people expect this and then show up late. Artist doesn't want to go on with no crowd, so has to wait for the people to show up. This then feeds itself and gets worse and worse.

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41. "oh yeah, it's a vicious cycle but I don't see it changing anytime soon"
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you just gotta adapt & figure out a way to make the best use of your time prior.

It obviously makes it tough to go see stuff in the middle of a work week because things wrap so late, then again I generally don't go out to clubs during the week anyway.

It would have to be a pretty strong act that I've never seen before to get me out on a Tuesday or Wednesday night.

  

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46. "RE: oh yeah, it's a vicious cycle but I don't see it changing anytime so..."
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>you just gotta adapt & figure out a way to make the best use
>of your time prior.

My only problem is, I get this feeling every time that "WHAT IF THE ARTIST DOES START ON TIME." Am I gonna be the asshole showing up late, missing half the show. So I show up a "little" late, and inevitable wait around, which usually isn't so bad if i'm with a group of friends and there is a bar at the venue.

This "what if" feeling is especially strong when I'm going to a venue I'm not familiar with or seeing an act I have never seen before.

Case in point. I saw De la two weeks ago at Yoshi's in SF. Had dinner at Yoshi's before hand, was running a bit late, waiter assured us the show was gonna start about 20 minutes late, when we walked into the club area, De La had already started, and it was only 15 minutes after the start time. I was amazed, but I guess Yoshi's runs a tight ship.

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57. "yeah, this is why either calling ahead or picking a nearby spot to meet"
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prior is my move, that way if you don't get an honest answer from whoever answers at the box office, you can do a flyby to see what's happening inside.

I guess it's much easier to accomplish this when you're in a spot like the Sunset Strip where there's tons of other options within a block or two radius.

  

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58. "RE: yeah, this is why either calling ahead or picking a nearby spot to m..."
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>prior is my move, that way if you don't get an honest answer
>from whoever answers at the box office, you can do a flyby to
>see what's happening inside.

How do you know what an "honest" answer is?

>I guess it's much easier to accomplish this when you're in a
>spot like the Sunset Strip where there's tons of other options
>within a block or two radius.

I just moved to SF in july, so most of the venues I go to have plenty of places to go to for killing time. I think I will start using your strategy. I'm seeing Orgone at the boom boom room this weekend, and have never been to the venue, so I think saturday will be a perfect time to test this method out.

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37. "You're right, but 3+ hours is BS."
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And showing a movie is just stupid, plain and simple.

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40. "movie is a bit awkward, the way some of these opening acts sound"
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at these club shows I'd definitely rather watch a flick though.

But I'll be in a bar next door until it gets close to the time the MC I'm paying for is hitting the stage.

  

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70. "Pretty sure I waited 4 hours for Kool Keith once..."
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75. "and few have a less impressive live show than Keith, only one that"
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comes to mind in terms of reputable MCs with a worse show would probably be Jeru.

Del's pretty awful also.

  

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23. "really disappointed with MF DOOM a few yrs ago"
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he was on stage for like 45 minutes, and it wasn't at a festival. he was headlining a small show, i think it was at the house of blues hollywood

he just put on a lazy performance. he rapped for half an hour, told his DJ to start playing his instrumentals. didn't even rhyme over them or nothing. then it looked like he got bored and he just bounces off stage

the whole place was booing him as he left, which really says something

  

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67. "you could've just stopped after the subject line man "
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>he was on stage for like 45 minutes, and it wasn't at a
>festival. he was headlining a small show, i think it was at
>the house of blues hollywood
>
>he just put on a lazy performance. he rapped for half an hour,
>told his DJ to start playing his instrumentals. didn't even
>rhyme over them or nothing. then it looked like he got bored
>and he just bounces off stage
>
>the whole place was booing him as he left, which really says
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35. "let me tell you why you should NOT support Sean Paul"
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I win free tickets to see him, this is late '90s/early '00s - when he just got big. I'm not all that hype about going, but the lady friend is. We get there on time. It's a reggae show, so there's about two dozen opening acts. No worries.
Sean Paul shows up 90 MINUTES LATE.
I don't mean the doors opened at 9 and he got there at 10:30.
I mean he was supposed to start performing 90 MINUTES AGO.
They had opening acts going back out for another set.
They had, for lack of a better phrase "jump dancers", cats who apparently specialize in jumping four, five feet in the air and then breakdancing.
The jump dancers were on for 30 MINUTES.
Sean Paul FINALLY shows up.
His band do the fastest setup and soundcheck I've ever seen (he had a three or four piece band with him - drums, guitar, bass, keys).
Sean Paul takes the stage. He gives no apology or explanation for being late. He doesn't thank the crowd for staying (he was the only name on the bill really worth seeing).
Then he does a less than 45 minute set.
Less than 45 minutes.
BUT IT GETS BETTER! He and his band are packed, back on the bus and on the highway before we can get out of the venue. This was verified by HALF OF THE CROWD SEEING HIS BUS ON I-95, VISIBLE FROM THE VENUE!!!
I come to expect "Urban music performer time-frame" whenever I go to a show. That's fine. But this was wholly unacceptable.
I will never support Sean Paul. As a performer, as "musician", as an entertainer. I will never buy a Sean Paul album/song. I will never purchase an album/song that FEATURES Sean Paul, I will never DOWNLOAD an album/song. I will never watch a music video, starring or featuring him. I will not support whatever humanitarian efforts he may endorse. I will not support him as a human being.


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61. "Yea that sucks..."
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It blows my mind, in this day and age, how artists can manage to do this to the people that are there supporting them.

This story is like that courtesy wave you want another driver to give you for letting in your lane, but it just doesn't happen.

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77. "It was so highly disrespectful"
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Not on some "courtesy" shit.
On some "HOMIE ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!"
The opening act went on longer than him.
This happened, damn, I guess it's been a while now.
But I still do not support him.
I wouldn't even play his songs during DJ sets, and I would DJ some reggae/dancehall type jams.
I had friends who wanted Beyonce's CD for xmas - didn't get it from The Wordman, it's got that one song on there featuring Sean Paul.
Artists don't have to cater hand-to-foot to the fans, but this was just unreal.


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39. "Joe Satriani"
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I forgot to bring earplugs though and this turned out to be a mistake of epic proportions. I was expecting it to be loud, but this was just a whole new kind of ridiculous.

First of all, i like to be able to actually hear what's being played, even if it's corny music like Satriani. All the notes were indistinguishable from eachother, everything just disintegrated into a wall of ear-splitting noise. All i could make out was the fact that music was in fact being played. For all i know, it was the best shit ever, but i wouldn't know because i couldn't hear it.

But the worst part is that he kept playing these stupidly long, piercing feedback notes. This was just pure sadism on his part. During these moments/lifetimes, i actually felt electric shocks going through my brain. I'm not even kidding, i saw flashes and everything. It was total sensory overload and for a moment, i was absolutely sure my head was going to explode like the dude in Scanners. I'm honestly surprised it didn't happen and how people in the front didn't spontaneously combust puzzles me to this very day.

Not a single person in the audience enjoyed this feedback shit, which was pretty evident as even his most loyal fans had their fingers in their ears. I mean EVERYBODY had their fingers in their ears, even the people who did bring earplugs. Several people looked like they were screaming in agony, although i'm merely speculating based on the look of terror on their faces and the fact that they had their mouth open, because no mere mortal could have been heard in there. But none of this stopped him from doing it FIVE FUCKING TIMES. What an asshole. This wasn't music, this was auditory torture.

I was pretty much deaf for 4 days. After the show i didn't just hear a ringing sound; there was also a buzz, a rattle, a clank, a zoom, a hum and a chirp. Imagine a refridgerator powered by a supercharged V8, mounted inside your skull. Pretty annoying, but still, i can't complain because this sounded much better than Joe Fucking Satriani and his feedback.

tl;dr - Fuck Joe Satriani.

  

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86. "that sucks to hear"
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I would have thought he'd be amazing...good to know though

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99. "In all fairness though"
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i was there with a friend who had seen him before and according to him, the sound at that show was good. Perhaps he didn't have time for a proper soundcheck or something.

I'm sure that if the sound was good, i would have had a great time because even though i don't really like Satriani's music, it certainly was an energetic performance. He's a charismatic guy with amazing chops and a strong stage presence. I've been at shows of guitar virtuosos whose music i don't particularly enjoy, which i still loved due to the good showmanship and the fact that virtuosity is so much more impressive to me on stage than on record. Tommy Emmanuel for example; his CDs kind of bore me, but i've seen him several times and his live shows are excellent. I'm sure that if this show had proper sound, i would feel the same about Satriani.

So i wouldn't actually discourage anyone from seeing him, even though there's no excuse for the feedback torture.
Just bring earplugs and say a prayer.

  

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44. "My vote goes to the Roots/Sprite Liquid Mix Tour "
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The sets were WAYYYYY too short.

And Robert Randolph???? Seriously??? LOL!

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48. "what's so terrible about Robert Randolph?"
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I mean that dude can't write songs to save his life but I still think the first time you see him manipulate that pedal-steel like it's a set of turntables it's kinda cool for a minute & his set is short.

The worst major act on a Roots package tour I can recall was definitely O.A.R.

I have no idea how that Area: One Tour came together.

  

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49. "Although I was dissapointed by this tour..."
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Robert Randolph was one of the highlights.

Robert Randolph and the family band is one of the most fun shows out there, talk about dance party.

On the other hand, OAR was a SNOOZER, it's just jam band lite. And I do enjoy some of their recorded stuff.

The roots didn't have enough time. Their set ended up being 90% none of their own material (this may be exaggeration).

Talib Kweli is what I deem Hip-Hop Karaoke. He's just not dynamic enough, and doesn't sound good enough live. Stick anyone up there who knows his lyrics and you would get the same show. His set was NOT too short.

I forget who else may have been playing on this tour?

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51. "NERD headlined"
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Lol, i saw it in MD and OAR went on after the roots do to them being a local act and everyone left before NERD came on. Like mass exodus to avoid hearing pharell.

  

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56. "RE: NERD headlined"
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>Lol, i saw it in MD and OAR went on after the roots do to
>them being a local act and everyone left before NERD came on.
>Like mass exodus to avoid hearing pharell.


OH YEAH! I saw it in MA, OAR played after the roots as well. NERD was beyond horrible, ugh, I think I tried to block that musical memory.

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83. "nah they all left because they were huge OAR fans."
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I was there too.

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55. "it was just an odd packaging of acts, oddest since PE & Sisters of Mercy"
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72. "or yeah, that OAR shit was garbage too."
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62. "You see, I kinda liked this tour..."
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Granted, the sets were short, and I have heard many complaints about it, but the experience was good for me. The DJ booth, 2nd stage, PSone lounges, etc were cool, Skillz came out and sold mixtapes/bootlegs of his after he performed... It's also the first time I saw many of these artists live, so that was also a treat in itself.

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63. "forgot skillz was there..."
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he was actually pretty good, and the short set didn't really impact him, a half an hour is plenty for him.

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65. "Festival sets are like that. "
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I actually prefer that to cramming in too many people for comically short sets. Plus, Robert Randolph, The Roots, and Kweli were great on that tour...OAR and NERD were awful. 3 outta 5 ain't bad. Oh wait, Skillz played too...he was okay.

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68. "RE: Festival sets are like that. "
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That is not the RULE for festivals. I've been to day festivals, with acts playing 1-2 hours sets, it was only a few acts and it was great (Mountain Jam in New York).

Also, weekend festivals (bonnaroo) do a good job of giving each artist a good amount of time to do their thing.

These, lets block out enough time for a regular concert and fit in 5 acts so we can call it a festival, shows are the problem. It's just them trying to overcharge and squeeze a little more money out of the fans.

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45. "I'm gonna go ahead and vote on behalf of Mista Monotone"
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Rakim at the State/Filmore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8avAA2OItk

Braylon Edwards nigga!!!!! (#17)

We down there somewhere in the crowd waving hands...

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52. "Saw him and the Clan in Philly"
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Dude spent most of the set just sitting in a chair spitting. GZAs sone had more energy than him that night.

  

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71. "that's exactly what he would say too"
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either that or the Edwards thing.

Me, just another dude I can cross off the concert list.

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94. "RE: that's exactly what he would say too"
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What is the Edwards thing?

I went up to visit my brother luckily he got press passes from 215. I would have been pissed had i paid 60 bucks for that.

  

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105. "RE: that's exactly what he would say too"
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>What is the Edwards thing?

We don't take to kindly paying to see a dude biggin up a sports celeb that doesn't play here . As far as I know the only exception I think is MJ.


Rakim was riding Edwards pretty hard that night too.


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107. "Lol"
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for some reason i thought that was part of your sig. I caught it now. Sorry sometime my eyes read like Braylon catches.

  

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104. "that video performance was okay"
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ra was never known to be the "super hype" busta rhymes type of showman. he rocked the rhymes pretty much how i imagined he would.
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64. "Only a handful of hip hop acts are worth seeing, honestly."
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Most have been mentioned. Really, the rule of thumb is...if it's just them and a DJ, I don't really care to go. My reasons are as follows:

- Live bands tend to make up for their deficiencies.
- Far too many MCs play their regular track and rap over it (meaning NOT the instrumental). This is fucking inexcusable, ESPECIALLY in the Serato era.

There are exceptions to this rule. I've always had great times at De La, Jurassic 5, or Talib Kweli shows. But for the most part, that's my rule.

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66. "aka "the Wu Tang live show experience thread""
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102. "i saw ol dirty bastard live in the 90s and he bodied it"
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he wasn't even on the bill. he just decided to rap for half an hour and no one stopped him. LOL.
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106. "Ghost did an hour+ set after an hour set from SKyzoo & Torae"
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on his Wizard of Poetry tour

I probably enjoyed this show more than any show I've been to, but it was also the only show I've been to where security said "alright, no holds barred, y'all Northsiders (aka blacks) can have your blunts, you won't be back til this time next year anyway"

Being that until I turned 21 I drank maybe every 3 months and smoke copious weed every day, it was like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders. "I'ma just roll something up!"

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112. "yeah, im moreso talking about 9+member Wu shows"
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I've been to 3

each time I left saying i'd NEVER see them again

Showing up like 45 minutes before the place had to shut down for the night legally etc type shit

  

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73. "Waited for probably two hours for Lee Scratch Perry at SXSW '07..."
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... last act of the week for me. Sat patiently through a couple opening bands, then his backing band came on and was like "All right, we're gonna do a few songs ourselves then Lee is gonna come out!" This was at midnight-12:30 or so. They start playing...and playing...and playing...until it's past 2am. And they're continually promising that Lee is DEFINITELY gonna be on stage ANY MINUTE. Eventually, he did come on, but after one song the club owner gets on the mic and is like, "You guys need to stop, we're past curfew and the club is gonna get fined if the place isn't cleared out immediately." I think they did one more song then bounced, with Perry going, "America, you need a new government." Yeah, maybe, Lee, buy you need a new fucking watch.

My concert promoter friend booked him for a show on a Monday night a few months later, and he basically hid out in his hotel until 1:30 am before finally playing. And then his manager accused us of stealing money from his merch booth.

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74. "i almost exclusively go to concerts with seats"
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i had an experience at a kweli show at the HOB on sunset. waited 3 hours, and not even an opening act went on.

artists want you to be live, jumping, dancing, etc, but by the time they usually finally come on, you're too tired from standing for the last few hours. that's why i love it when my favorite artists perform at the universal amphitheater.

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78. "Shitty festival experiences:"
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- When I was in high school I went to the Warped Tour every year for about seven years in a row. The worst year in terms of environment was the parking lot of Irvine Meadows -- a fucking DIRT parking lot. Thus, there was a cloud of dust hovering over the entire festival all day. To make matters worse, I got kicked in the face during the first band (CIV) and my glasses broke on one side, popping my lens out. I taped the shit back in using an Ozomatli sticker, but then I foolishly decided to crowd surf during Rancid and it popped out, never to be seen again. So I had basically one eye for the rest of the day, in this muggy, dusty butthole of a venue. To top it off, my buddy was holding my wallet for me (I had some ridiculous pants on without pockets), and we had gotten separated, and I was so thirsty at one point I chugged like five cups of free Yoo-Hoo. Not good.

- At Coachella in 2001, some asshole stole my wallet when I was in the crowd for Weezer. Again, it was oppressively hot, and I had no idea where my friends were (no cell phone back then, either). I got a splitting headache and had to ask a complete stranger for a drink of water. It sucked because Roni Size's Reprezent closed the festival and dropped a ridiculously awesome set, but I felt like I was going to die the entire time.

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79. "Saw a crowd completely turn on Boyz II Men in 2000..."
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... it was at this two-day festival called Urbanfest at USC the weekend I graduated from high school. BIIM were co-headlining with DJ Quik. People were going crazy for them when they started, but they did an entire set of new material from an album that hadn't even been released yet. Eventually people started booing and chanting for Quik. The group acknowledged the jeers, yet kept going "We're gonna do...one more new song." (Crowd: FUCK YOU!) They ended with "End of the Road" and all was forgiven, but it got pretty ugly there.

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96. "damn! You know it's tough when cats are cursing out R&B groups!"
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98. "I don't know what the hell they expected though..."
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... I mean, this was 2000, nobody wants to hear a new Boyz II Men song in the 21st century, let alone songs that hadn't even been released yet. And this was a crowd that was mostly there for DJ Quik. Those dudes are lucky they didn't get shot.

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Tonytrouble27
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81. "RE: Can we discuss *BAD* concert experiences?"
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Mobb Deep with Lost Boyz and NORE opening. Lost Boyz were BY FAR the highlight of the show, and the Mobb are one of my top 5 groups ever.

Havoc wasn't even there.

At one point NORE's fat ass jumped off the stage and it took like 8 of his homies to get him back up there. And that was my first experience with a completely ouot of shape rapper trying to hold a show down. I think he said every 9th word per line and his entourage held it down from there.

And it was 30 bucks.

I was a freshman in college. That was when I learned that shit just isn't what it used to be. Literally every show that I went to up to that point was an amazing experience, but that was when dudes were still trying to get a foot in the door of the mainstream. That shit made LL's Mr. Smith tour stop at First Ave seem like I was watching Michael Jackson himself.

I've seen almost every artist that I have ever wanted to see who is still alive (never seen Stevie or Sly in person. Sly was supposed to come here 2 years ago but he cancilled last minute. I've seen all of the golden era dudes. I've seen the Commodores original line-up (was a toddler but it still counts).

I've been to a lot of doo doo shows (can usually sniff em out now so I stay home), but I have never, ever seen a show as bad as the one listed above. LB Fam killed it though.

  

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91. "i saw built to spill once and fell asleep."
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no, i don't want to hear a 13 minute noodle jam, old guys.

just play car.

  

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95. "I fell asleep during 311"
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i was wore out after the Roots. And all i could think of is im drunk and they are not Sublime.

  

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109. "RE: I fell asleep during 311"
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saw the same tour, and all i could think was "didn't they just play this song?"

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97. "Jay Electronica at Rock The Bells 2008 "
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Granted it was hist first time in Toronto and the venue could've been better.

He literally started arguing with the sound man in between his set.

Stopping to emphasize his words in acapella -----> ok ok-hold-ok-alright-oh-oh-alright-hold-up-ok. © Jay Electronica (we booed)*

Taking shots at Okayplayer.com (real mature)*

He threw his scepter into the audience as well as his mic after he finished performing. (Not cool)

Supernatural came out afterwards to get the mic back...lol

He strikes me as the type of artist with so much raw talent, but not quite sure how to harness it.


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100. "RE: "
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saw Dizzee Rascal @ Opera House in Toronto 03 or 04...big mistake...legs were tired from just standing there because he sucks and I didnt want to move,but the ticket was free so...I shouldve stayed home? ^_^

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111. "^I keep hearing this^"
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I've this from more than a few about JE's performing...

Shit makes me nervous when considering longetivity and such...

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113. "While I enjoyed it, Ghost last night in Cincy/northern KY..."
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Show started at 8, he was supposed to come out at 1030, eventually came out at 1.

Bunch of shitty opening rappers, then Sheek Louch, then Starks.

I enjoyed it, but damn, that's a late night for getting up in the morning for work.

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