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zewari
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"Poll question: Do you support the creation of a .xxx domain?"


  

          

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196608,00.html

E-Mails Indicate Rove, Gov't Forced ICANN to Nix .xxx Domain

Newly released e-mails allege U.S. government officials pressured a leading Internet authority into voting against creating a kind of red-light district for adult Web sites.

The apparent involvement of the U.S. Department of Commerce, President Bush's chief political operative Karl Rove and others is significant.

If true, it means the U.S. government violated terms of a complicated arrangement it has with ICANN, the Internet authority that voted 9-5 two weeks ago not to OK the .xxx proposal.

What ICM Registry, the company that proposed the top-level domain, wanted was permission to distribute Web addresses that ended in .xxx to be used exclusively by adult entertainment sites.

The proposal won support from Wired Safety and Wired Kids, the Internet Content Rating Association and other child-safety groups because of the way it was expected to make it easier for authorities and parents to police the Internet.

Detractors said it just would make it that much easier to find porn.

ICANN voted it down 9-5, after seemingly being on track to approve of the effort.

Since the ICANN vote, ICM Registry has made public e-mails, here in PDF form, between members of the Department of Commerce, various other branches of the federal government and ICANN.

The company had asked for the communications earlier under a Freedom of Information Act request.

After discovering many of the e-mails had been redacted, ICM on May 19 asked a judge in Washington, D.C., to force the Department of Commerce to fill in the blanks.

ICM says the e-mails show how the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce, was subjected to intense pressure to intervene on behalf of the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family, two socially conservative lobbying organizations.

NTIA members started keeping watch on how the .xxx proposal was reported in the media, drafted letters to ICANN protesting the .xxx domain, helped facilitate meetings between ICANN and concerned groups and otherwise "marshaled our resources at ICANN," as one NTIA official put it in an e-mail.

As the e-mail blitz was going on, Bush's main political operative, Karl Rove, met with James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, who wanted to air his opposition to the .xxx proposal, ICM learned through other sources.

A secret "Stop .XXX" order went in effect shortly after the meeting, according to the documents.

This was all taking place despite a ban on such activities, laid out in a memorandum of understanding which allowed the Department of Commerce to work on a particular project with ICANN involving domain name servers.

"The documents released so far reveal that the United States government exerted undue political influence on ICANN's consideration of the .xxx domain application, and treated an independent corporation as a client agency of the United States government despite a lack of any legitimate authority to do so," wrote Stuart Lawley, ICM Registry president, in an e-mail to eWEEK.

Comments were not immediately available from ICANN, Focus on the Family, the Family Research Council or the NTIA officials who took part in the e-mail communications.

Poll result (16 votes)
Yes (11 votes)Vote
No (5 votes)Vote

  

  

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It amazes me that people don't know that this goes on.
May 23rd 2006
1
sure...but no one would use it
May 24th 2006
2
explain me this...
May 24th 2006
3
Yeah, makes sense to me.
May 26th 2006
6
half of the .xxx domains were already sold BEFORE they were available
May 24th 2006
4
i know there's a lot of reasons why it wouldn't happen...
May 27th 2006
7
      so if I post a nude pic on my personal .com webspace
May 27th 2006
9
           and there's the thing (no homo)
May 30th 2006
11
                but that would make too much sense.
May 30th 2006
12
                so all the pedophiles can keep their targets in one place?
May 31st 2006
14
                     what they gonna do, ominously lurk around Nicktoons in trenchcoats?
May 31st 2006
15
                          lol frantically downloading Dora the Explorer episodes
May 31st 2006
16
                          you'd be surprised at how many adults use the disney shit
May 31st 2006
17
I think they should do it for the sake of organization.
May 24th 2006
5
shit, even that .org shit aint work.
May 31st 2006
13
how that .tv thing doing
May 27th 2006
8
ha
May 30th 2006
10

Nopayne
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1. "It amazes me that people don't know that this goes on."
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2. "sure...but no one would use it"
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you think the current sex sites would give up their .com domains? no way...they'd just mirror their site on .xxx

  

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3. "explain me this..."
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"The proposal won support from Wired Safety and Wired Kids, the Internet Content Rating Association and other child-safety groups because of the way it was expected to make it easier for authorities and parents to police the Internet.

Detractors said it just would make it that much easier to find porn."

Isn't that the point of having the porn in xxx, so little Jimmy doesn't mistakenly mistype Google or Yahoo and land at Hot Buttfuckin Sluts Who Do Your Taxes? Sonds like the detractors want cake, and ice cream, and eat it, but that's not gonna happen.

The detractors want it HARDER to find porn? Is that their point? Because .xxx seemed like a no-brainer to me.

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6. "Yeah, makes sense to me."
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You'd think most parents would be for it 'cause they easily could go into their "Net Nanny" settings and have it block all sites with the .xxx domain.

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4. "half of the .xxx domains were already sold BEFORE they were available"
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nobody was gonna use them any
.com was/is/will always be the way to go

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zewari
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7. "i know there's a lot of reasons why it wouldn't happen..."
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but what if all porn sites were required by law to be on an xxx domain?

  

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9. "so if I post a nude pic on my personal .com webspace"
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I got muthafuckas kicking down my door?


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11. "and there's the thing (no homo)"
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I can understand parents/net nannyers latching to this .xxx thing and all, on a very puritanical and superficial level... but the fundamental question of "What is porn?" would still remain. And it isn't such an easy one to answer. It's a slippery slope that slides right down into a giant can of worms, is what it is.

How about we just set up a ".KID" domain for the children to play in, and leave the rest for us? That, or you could actually WATCH your kids for once.

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12. "but that would make too much sense."
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14. "so all the pedophiles can keep their targets in one place?"
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15. "what they gonna do, ominously lurk around Nicktoons in trenchcoats?"
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16. "lol frantically downloading Dora the Explorer episodes"
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17. "you'd be surprised at how many adults use the disney shit"
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my sister works at disney studios as part of the computer forensics team. she says that over half of the users of the disney interactive games/community are adults.

now, most of those are stay-at-home moms that form bonds with other moms/parents through the games and chats, and i didn't ask about the chesters, but my point is that it does create a "hub" that would be perfect for the molesters to get at some kids since there's no "youth-only age check". it requires constant policing and whatnot, so i don't know if that's any benefit over what's in place today.

i think limiting your child's internet time and monitoring their activity would do more than having a separate domain for kids or porn. but this is america and we would rather medicate our kids than parent them.

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5. "I think they should do it for the sake of organization."
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It's much easier to avoid running into porn sites if all of them are required to have the .xxx domain. If a kid gets on one of those sites anyways it would be because he was doing it intentionally.

As much as I'm in support of organizing the Internet like this, we already know from the .tv domain that people aren't going to follow suit. About half of those tv-related sites switched over only to go back to .com


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13. "shit, even that .org shit aint work."
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plus how do u enforce u.s. law on the inter(national)net
i doubt those motherfuckers in khazischikfagistan are gonna listen

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8. "how that .tv thing doing"
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