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rogue_scholar
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""acquisition" p2p software for mac -- what's the catch?"


  

          

what's a good reason NOT to download and use acquisition?

anything shady or wack about it?


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i use it
Feb 16th 2006
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the catch is...
Feb 16th 2006
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what do u think can happen, lol??
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The first Mac OS X Virus?
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      and thats not even a virus...
Feb 16th 2006
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           it infects other files..that's a virus...and even it was only a trojan, ...
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                No, it's a malicious app renamed to something unsuspecting.
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                     exactly..
Feb 16th 2006
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                     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
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                          RE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
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                               *sigh*
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the catch is: it's so slow , it's useless...
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Use "Acqlite"
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True
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silentnoah
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1. "i use it"
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i have had no problems, im thinking about registering and paying for it to get rid of the nags, but registering a p2p app seems kinda dumb

  

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Thu Feb-16-06 06:28 AM

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2. "the catch is..."
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you gotta use a mac.

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3. "what do u think can happen, lol??"
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...if you were on a pc you would be geting adware and viruses from the jump ...on a mac, all your gonna get is the files you asked for

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nonaime
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4. "The first Mac OS X Virus?"
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http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=180579

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5. "and thats not even a virus..."
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...if it was a real virus, it would be the 1st in 5 YEARS!! ..lol, there are currently thousands of PC viruses on the loose today alone, not to mention all the ad ware

..but nice try

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6. "it infects other files..that's a virus...and even it was only a trojan, ..."
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guys, whenever the topic of viruses on OS X spring up, will admit to trojans but not viruses. As if being infected by a trojan is better than being infected by a virus. lol

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7. "No, it's a malicious app renamed to something unsuspecting."
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There's no way to NOT have something like that. Anyone could write a script that fucks up someone's computer, rename it "NakedJessicaAlba.zip" and cause havoc with anyone dumb enough to open it.

The reason it's not a virus, is because the user THEMSELVES has to uncompress it and run it...hell, you have to type your administrator password for it to work....hence, NOT a virus (something that spreads without the user knowing or giving permission).

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8. "exactly.."
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nonaime
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9. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus"
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Thu Feb-16-06 12:53 PM by nonaime

          

"...a virus is a self-replicating program that spreads by inserting copies of itself into other executable code or documents..."

This is what the program does. How the user is tricked into getting their computer infected has nothing to do with it. It about the behavior of said prgram.

It doesn't install another program onto the computer...trojan
It doesn't spread to other machines via network protocols...worm
It doesn't generate pop ups...ad ware
It copies its code into other the code of other programs...virus

Therefore, it is a...say it with me...VIRUS. And, I'll say it again, you guys act as though malware is okay...as long as it isn't a virus.

The original poster wanted to know about acquisition and the first thing out you mac zealots' mouth was there's nothing out there that can you harm you.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=180579 <== Well, there it is.

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hype_phb
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10. "RE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus"
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>"...a virus is a self-replicating program that spreads by
>inserting copies of itself into other executable code or
>documents..."
>
>This is what the program does. How the user is tricked into
>getting their computer infected has nothing to do with it. It
>about the behavior of said prgram.

But you're ignoring the fact that a user has to initially run it THEMSELVES before it can start any of that...thus the arguement can be made that it is NOT self-replicating; it needs a user's help to replicate.

>Therefore, it is a...say it with me...VIRUS. And, I'll say it
>again, you guys act as though malware is okay...as long as it
>isn't a virus.

I'm not acting like Malware is ok, I'm simply stating that there is NO WAY to prevent this situation; it's a shitty program renamed to confuse people. Short of not being able to rename files, I can't think of a way to avoid this. At least OSX prompts you for an administrator's password before any damage is done; you have to conciously OK the file a number of times before it goes to work.

>The original poster wanted to know about acquisition and the
>first thing out you mac zealots' mouth was there's nothing out
>there that can you harm you.
>
>http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=180579 <== Well,
>there it is.

Where, exactly, did I say that? Please show me....oh right, I didn't. You can pull stuff like this out all you want, but we all know that Windows is more vulnerable to these sorts of things; hate the Mac or love it, it's not really a debatable point, at all....

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12. "*sigh*"
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Thu Feb-16-06 02:11 PM by nonaime

          

>But you're ignoring the fact that a user has to initially run
>it THEMSELVES before it can start any of that...thus the
>arguement can be made that it is NOT self-replicating; it
>needs a user's help to replicate.

Well all viruses require some level of user interaction. I can have a boatlaod of infected email attachments on my windows machine. If I don't click anything nothing happens. Even if there were a virus that was truly "self replicating"...well I still have to turn on the computer.

The interaction between the virus and the user has nothing to do with it. It's about the interaction between the virus and the files on the computer. The virus is inserting itself into other programs. The user isn't decompiling programs and then altering the code.

>At least
>OSX prompts you for an administrator's password before any
>damage is done; you have to conciously OK the file a number of
>times before it goes to work.

But see, that's where mac users miss it. Social engineering makes all that pointless. That's how Window users' computers are infected. I get junk mail that I know have infected attachments DAILY. I can't remmeber the last time I got infected by a virus...McAfee has nothing to do with it.

If I'm trying to get your computer infected, I'm going to package it so that you WANT to go through all the authentication steps. All those mac users on that Mac rumor site wanted so badly to see the next version of OS X that they gladly went through all that. They could include a retina scanner on all Macintosh computers...still wouldn't have prevented this...Observe:

"Oh wow, this member should be banned. I downloaded the file and it comes up as a picture file then when I click on it it pops open Terminal and runs something. Looks like someone attempted to make a Mac virus...

Reported."

"lol, i downloaded it and ran it. Now if this was a pc, i would have already reformatted and reinstalled it. But since im on a mac right now im just like WTF. has anyone been able to find out what it does exactly. Probably not somthing harmful since you would have had to enter your password.
Edit: whats even funnier is that i was 'lucky' enough to download the file before it was changed by a mod. That person should be banned, even though he is less than likely to comeback."

^^^^This guy is a real genius. If the file had been more dangerous, they would be reformatting as well. lol.

I removed the link just in case the file was still there. Don't want any of you mac users hosing your machines.

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11. "the catch is: it's so slow , it's useless..."
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to me. with limewire, at least i'll get some of the files i'll attempt to download.

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13. "Use "Acqlite""
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It's very similar, and open-source. Less of a resource hog, too.

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14. "True"
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Acquisition has been my beast of burden since these torrents have been slow. But Acqlite is better.






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