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dM
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"what is really the safest way to store files?"


          

after the tragedy of this
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=41685&mesg_id=41685&listing_type=search

I think I have issues with commitment.

I just got the replacement in the mail today. Works fine so far. But then again, the other one worked fine for a few weeks.

are external hard drives all shakey? what if I don't leave it plugged in?

I can't go through the pain of another crashed hd.

  

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scratch the 0's and 1's into polycarbonite and put it in a vault n/m
Dec 14th 2005
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RE: what is really the safest way to store files?
Dec 14th 2005
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but what do you when its 60+ gigs?
Dec 14th 2005
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cd? i hope you mean dvd...
Dec 14th 2005
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You can get tape drives over a terabyte in size
Dec 15th 2005
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Is that even economically feasible?
Dec 16th 2005
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RE: but what do you when its 60+ gigs?
Dec 16th 2005
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CDRs are notorious for going bad within a few years of being burned
Dec 16th 2005
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flash memory panasonically sealed in a Mason jar.
Dec 14th 2005
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send them to
Dec 14th 2005
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Just ask Burb to hold on to it for you.
Dec 14th 2005
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ROFL
Dec 15th 2005
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*dead*
Dec 15th 2005
10
external with RAID 1 (4/5 would be better...more money)
Dec 15th 2005
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and this is really the only economically feasible option
Dec 16th 2005
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You could also keep a spare internal IDE drive.
Dec 15th 2005
12
Store files safely, you say?
Dec 16th 2005
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1. "scratch the 0's and 1's into polycarbonite and put it in a vault n/m"
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PoppaGeorge
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Wed Dec-14-05 07:09 PM

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2. "RE: what is really the safest way to store files?"
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I backup several ways:

system - Tape (DAT, AIT, or Ditto/QIC), ghost multi CD
Audio sessions - Tape (DAT only), CD
Samples - CD, Zip100, floppy (depending on the size)
midi files - Zip 100, Floppy


I never backup to hard drive for the very reason you had to get another one.

  

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dM
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4. "but what do you when its 60+ gigs?"
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are data CDs really safer?

  

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Wed Dec-14-05 10:03 PM

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7. "cd? i hope you mean dvd..."
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11. "You can get tape drives over a terabyte in size"
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And as long as you have good CD-Rs (or DVD-Rs hopefully), a good burner, and a SAFE place to keep em your backups'll be good for several years...but that media doesn't last anywhere near forever, not even as long as a well-cared-for newspaper.


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13. "Is that even economically feasible?"
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I've never seen a single hard drive that large personally.

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PoppaGeorge
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17. "RE: but what do you when its 60+ gigs?"
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DLT tapes can handle 40GB/80GB compressed and usually cost about $30 each. DLT drives are usually just under $900.

AIT drives cost more ($1000+), I got mine for free when I worked for a local PC recycler. Ripped it out of a Compaq server.

Honestly, your best bet would be DAT (4mm tape) or find an old PC Ditto drive. Get the biggest cap tapes you can find (20GB for DAT, 10 for Ditto/QIC) and do just data backups (ie, mp3's on one tape, flicks on another, etc...)

  

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14. "CDRs are notorious for going bad within a few years of being burned"
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3. "flash memory panasonically sealed in a Mason jar."
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5. "send them to"
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google...

they seem to be able to find everything
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6. "Just ask Burb to hold on to it for you."
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8. "ROFL"
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10. "*dead*"
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9. "external with RAID 1 (4/5 would be better...more money)"
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15. "and this is really the only economically feasible option"
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it's still expensive as shit, but once you have it set up, even if you have a drive go bad, you're still ok.



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12. "You could also keep a spare internal IDE drive."
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It's been done before, just plugging up the second internal's power dongle and starting back up, then backing up.

Really, IDE drives are pretty good as they go (avoid off-brands), and if you had one you just plugged up occasionally and scandisked from time to time, it would last you a good little while.

Maybe that could be just part of the heightened redundancy plan, that in addition to a tape backup or something. I'm really starting to think about that now that I'm doing actual serious business on my home puter.


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16. "Store files safely, you say?"
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Look no further than here:
http://www.thebarn.com.au/images/ACFIREFC.JPG

It even has that5 fancy Anti-Burb dial!

  

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